In which Pandora Pushkin discusses the latest push to legalize pedophilia and make it a trendy new “alternative lifestyle”.
ALICE IN WONDERLAND
ALICE: Help! I’ve just been raped by Jimmy Savile disguised as the Mad Hatter!
MAD QUEEN: Too many complaints—off with her head!
If Jimmy Savile had lived a few more years—say ten at the most—he could have found himself living in a world in which pedophilia was legal. Instead of being vilified for his creepy sexual activities, Jimmy could have found himself a national hero.
Resorting to the same tactics used by gay rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek a similar legal status, arguing that their sexual desire for children is just a natural “sexual orientation”. If homosexuals like going to bed with their own sex and that’s okay, why is it so wrong if a 70-year-old man wants to go to bed with a 7-year-old girl?
“If a guy offers the kid candy and she consents to sex, what’s the big deal?” it’s now being asked. It’s not like he’s forcing her, is it? Shouldn’t the child have a choice to say Yes or No?
Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an “alternative lifestyle” or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits. Gay advocates have taken offense at such a position, insisting this would never happen.
Well, it’s happened.
Pedophiles are using exactly the same brand of logic as homosexuals once used to get their preferred form of sex legalized. Sodomy is just an alternative lifestyle. Gay sex is cool. Sure, we all know that. Like the world is round, gay sex is cool. Nothing wrong with gay sex. Gays are made like that. They can’t help it.
It follows from this argument that if a guy in his seventies fancies a 7-year-old girl, or boy, there’s nothing wrong with that, either. Heck, that’s how he’s made! It’s his sexual orientation. And what harm is he doing if the 7-year-old girl (or boy) doesn’t mind being specially nice to him for a little extra pocket money?
Calling him a “dirty old man” is sooo wrong! It shouldn’t be allowed. That’s hate speech, like calling someone a “kike” or “nigger”.
Come to think of it, what’s so wrong if this same guy is into corpses, like Jimmy Savile is reported to have been? Corpses can’t say “No”. So there’s no question about getting cadaveral consent.
Let’s consider necrophilia for a moment. This is not off-topic. It’s highly relevant.
I guess it’s possible to argue that sex with corpses can also be pretty cool and awesome. Like it’s just an alternative lifestyle. I mean, if you happen to be born with a natural sexual orientation for sex with the dead, maybe society should be a bit more tolerant and not start making moral judgments.
Maybe necrophiliacs ought to put in for protected minority status, just like pedophiles and homosexuals…?
I guess one way to settle this vexed question about necrophilia, if it’s right or wrong, is to ask yourself: if YOU were a corpse, how would you like someone to make use of your dead body for sexual purposes? It can easily be argued that most people are not going to mind, for no other reason than this: they’re going to be dead! How can you mind if you’re dead? When you’re dead, what do you care? If you don’t mind being burned to ashes or put six feet under, why should you mind being used as a sex object that gives pleasure to a necrophiliac?
Thus the smooth casuist will be able to argue.
I foresee certain problems of course with legalized necrophilia, but I am sure these can be overcome easily enough with advertizing campaigns on TV assuring the public that sex with corpses is just fine and dandy — just like killing innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan and Palestine is fine and dandy, if you can con people into thinking these people are very wicked.
I mean, if torture is okay — and torture IS perfectly legal in America and Israel — there’s absolutely no reason why necrophilia (or pedophilia with dead children) shouldn’t be legal too, is there?
I can understand that the relatives of the corpse might get a bit upset. That’s to be expected. Relatives can be like that. Uncooperative. But the responsible necrophiliac is never going to misbehave with a corpse, is he? If he’s got any self-respect, he’s going to check it out with the deceased’s relatives first. To ask if they mind. To get their compassionate consent.
“I’m dead and in the cooler
But I wanna come back
As a serial killer
Or a necrophiliac.”
— Anon, Kinky Graffiti
Psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago.
In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. A group of psychiatrists recently held a symposium proposing a new definition of pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders of the APA.
They decided that pedophiles were to be called “minor-attracted people” from now on. “Pedophile” was thought to be too harsh a word. It had negative connotations. So a clear attempt is now being made to “prettify” pedophilia and make it not only socially acceptable but a harmless and trendy “alternative lifestyle.”
Just like homosexuality.
The idea is this: if people can be brainwashed into thinking homosexuality is nice and normal, why can’t they be brainwashed into thinking pedophilia is nice and normal too?
In ten years time, it is hoped, the public will be ready for the legalization of pedophilia. In the meantime, they need to be softened up. The stigma attached to pedophilia needs to be removed. Not only this, but the same stigma will need to be subtly transferred to those who oppose pedophilia and feel pedophilia is morally wrong and repugnant. These child protectors will need to be portrayed as desperately out-of-touch cranks, as reactionary crackpots hostile to the child’s right to free sexual expression.
Will a new word of abuse and contempt, like “homophobe” and “anti-Semite”, have to be invented for the nasty people who disapprove of pedophilia? I don’t think so. There’s already a word that will do beautifully: PEDOPHOBE.
Loosely translated, this means “child hater”. By extension, it also means “pedophile hater”. The word can be applied to anyone who opposes pedophilia and thinks it is disgusting.
The word “pedophobe”, in other words, will soon be applied as a term of abuse to anyone who opposes pedophilia. If you don’t like pedophila, you will soon find yourself labeled a “pedophobe” — an object of disgust and contempt which will put you into the same category as a “homophobe” or “anti-Semite”.
As far back as 1998, the APA issued a report claiming that “the negative potential of adult sex with children was ‘overstated’ and that the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences.”
Only earlier this year two psychologists in Canada declared that pedophilia was a sexual orientation just like homosexuality. So there was nothing to worry about. It ought to be accepted.
Mr Van Gijseghem, psychologist and retired professor of the University of Montreal, told members of Parliament, “Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offense from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with homosexuality.”
Dr. Quinsey, professor emeritus of psychology at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, agreed with Van Gijseghem. Quinsey said that pedophiles have a definite sexual preference for children. “There is no evidence that this sort of preference can be changed through treatment or through anything else,” he said. (See here)
In July, 2010, Harvard Health Publications chipped in and gave pedophilia another boost. “Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and is unlikely to change,” they said. Harvard is now 25 percent Jewish, and the most influential part too, so one can expect a trendy contempt for Christian values to emanate from this ivory tower. Indeed, it was only last week that a sex bondage club, catering for student sadists and masochists, was set up at this august university. (See here and here)
Linda Harvey, of Mission America, said the push for pedophiles to have equal rights will become more and more common as LGBT [Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender] groups continue to assert themselves. “It’s all part of a plan to introduce sex to children at younger and younger ages.” (See here)
It’s only a matter of time before Harvard university and its Ivy League imitators begin to set up student clubs for pedophiles and child porn enthusiasts, provided they can first give the whole enterprise a veneer of academic respectability—which of course they will be able to do, given all that Jewish talent at their disposal.
THE SEXUALIZATION OF CHILDREN BY THE JEW-CONTROLLED MEDIA
Children like this are being deliberately groomed for pedophilia. Toxic hormones are being surreptitiously introduced into junk foods, soft drinks, and the water supply so as to produce early puberty and sexual precocity on an epidemic scale.
Milton Diamond, a University of Hawaii professor and director of the Pacific Center for Sex and Society, stated that child pornography could be beneficial to society because, “Potential sex offenders use child pornography as a substitute for sex against children.”
I am not surprised that a man with a name like “Milton Diamond” should put in a good word for child pornography. We know what ethnic group benefits most from the promotion of pornography. And Milton Diamond obviously belongs to this elite group of cultural Marxists who would like to see the entire world take up compulsive masturbation as a hobby.
Dr Diamond is a distinguished lecturer for the Institute for the Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco. The same institute lists, on its website, a list of “basic sexual rights” that include “the right to engage in sexual acts or activities of any kind whatsoever, providing they do not involve nonconsensual acts, violence, constraint, coercion or fraud.” Another thing they praise is “the freedom of any sexual thought, fantasy or desire.” The Institute also states, significantly, that “no one should be disadvantaged because of age.”
Dr Diamond makes it crystal clear what kind of brave new world he would like to see us all living in. It is reassuring to know that no one will be left behind — that “no one should be disadvantaged because of age.”
Dr Diamond sees the protection now extended to toddlers as a “disadvantage”. Why are these adorable little creatures, full of life’s promise, being denied the pleasures of sexual intercourse with wise old coots ten times their senior?
Just think what a 7-year-old child could learn from entering into intimate relations with a 70-year-old senior citizen! To deprive the child of the benefits of his superior wisdom is positively cruel!
Penis size will of course have to be taken into account, and men with exceptionally large penises will obviously have to be disqualified from intercourse with toddlers. Or maybe they can be encouraged to use vaseline and special lubricants which will help to anaesthetize the three sexual orifices likely to be utilized.
In any case, it’s early days. Not to worry. The experts will work it all out. Leave it to the boffins.
Here’s more good news for you if you happen to be a pedophile: Dr Diamond says he would like to legalize child porn so that you can enjoy the innocent pleasure of masturbating over children. Isn’t that kind of him? He thinks this will stop you raping and killing children.
Gosh, why didn’t someone think of this before? For more information on this fascinating topic, click on:
Legalizing Child Pornography reduces child sex abuse crimes (Scientific study by Dr. Milton Diamond, U. Hawaii)
Sex offender laws protecting children have been challenged in several states including California, Georgia and Iowa. Sex offenders claim that the laws prohibiting them from living near schools or parks, for example, are unfair because it penalizes them for life.
“Why’s that pedo flashing at me from behind that tree? Hmm, I guess flashing at kids is pretty cool… an awesome alternative lifestyle.”
Let’s face it, friends: perversion is cool. I mean, anything can be perceived as cool — even eating shit. If you’re born a perv, you need respect and understanding from the community. You need special facilities laid on for you so that you can indulge your perversion as a human right.
Child porn is just a stepping stone toward even greater liberties. Child brothels, regulated by the state, will obviously be the next step on the Noble Eightfold Path. Even cannibalism and murder, provided you get the written consent of your victim, ought not to be ruled out.
As they say in New Zion or USreal, every option should be kept on the table.
This is the way the word ends…not with a bang but a whimper…as one pushes beyond the borderlines of the banal in the ultimate quest for mystical union with the divine — or diabolical.
PEDOPHILE VICTIM
Beautiful 6-year-old Jersey Bridgeman, from Arkansas, was found raped and murdered last week a few doors from her mother’s home. She is here seen wearing LIPSTICK. Why has this child been so needlessly sexualized and made to look more like an adult? If her mother hadn’t bought her that lipstick, would she still be alive today? (See here)
“Don’t say they’re “asking” for it—that’s so wrong!
They’re little kiddies and they simply long
For love!” . . . But who can blame the pedophile
When little whores like this go all the mile?
— Anon, Provocation
Is this little girl “asking” for it?
Is she being groomed for pedophilia?
If you have time to watch this 10-minute video
about the sexualization of young children,
click HERE.
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I’ll have no problem to be defined “pedophobe” instead of “omophobe”, I’m no stupid, I know the difference !
I’ve just added another very “controversial” and politically incorrect (!) picture and caption (a 4-line verse) to my article on child porn and pedophilia.
See the SECOND LAST PICTURE…right at the end of the article.
I doubt if other websites, which republished my article, would have included this 4-line verse. They would probably have deleted it. I’ll delete it myself if there are strong objections from readers.
Delightful reading of yours as always. Thank you very much!
Interesting reading which I fully believe it will eventually be legal. Maybe 10, maybe 40yrs. I will happen though.
And, yes this is very slippery & a deeply sensitive top of course as it should be… And, while I agree with this article in general.. I also continue to worry about the demonisation of people who commit all kinds of crimes, including paedophilia….. That is, since are we all not ultimately, human beings, at the end of the day, each struggling with our own “issues” whatever they may be…… And, of course many adults have found themselves attracted to younger people sexually I am sure at different times.. Like what man or woman would not find “attractive” a very sexually attractive teenager, of either sex, who is starting to develop sexually, & who is moving or has recently moved beyond puberty.. And, of course this is a very delicate time in anyones development, transitioning from childhood into the adult world.. ie. the beginning of the sexual maturity of the body etc.. And, especially if there is some kind of work & or Social relationship or bond that is formed etc.. Although young people are of course very much more inexperienced, well most that is, in the realm of sexuality & animal & or psychosexual attraction etc.. And, yet the modern world in which we live, despite all the so-called advances in thought & technology etc.. still remains relatively unevolved on the animalistic psycho-spiritual level etc.. trapped in a kind of youth & beauty is best Culture etc et al.. What about the ancient wisdoms of the tribal Elders of this world, that have been largely dismissed as ignorant or no longer relevant etc….
While I also then ask *the Sabian Oracle at http://sabiansymbols.com/ what the Universe wants to say to us all about how we should all try & deal with the whole “issue” of paedophilia all kinds of so-called “distorted” sexuality etc.. I got *25degCan..
A LEADER OF MEN WRAPPED IN AN INVISIBLE CLOAK OF POWER.. This points to ‘Invisible’ levels of ‘Power’ that are cloaking someone. There is an unavoidable need to accept powerful responsibilities and to respond rationally to anything that needs to be done. It is almost as though this has been thrust upon you, but it is as much because you have placed yourself in this position and you both understand and accept the consequences. If this is not about you, it can be about someone in your environment.
Leadership and its responsibilities. Powerful descent of energies taking over one’s very being. Recognizing brilliance and power. Mantles of power. Cloaks and shawls.
The Caution: Outer shows of superiority. Presuming oneself to be more than one is. Megalomania. Not owning one’s magnificence.
A WILLFULL INDIVIDUAL IS OVERSHADOWED BY A DESCENT OF SUPERIOR POWER.. The response of Spiritual forces to the integration of personality through positive will-full endeavours..
We are dealing here with a man or woman who uses his will & positive imagination in facing his life problems. To his comes the Pentecostal descent of power. He receives the “mantle of power,” the grace, or Baraka in Sufi philosophy, the Providential assistance which can make him or her a true leader in ones Culture..
In this fifth symbol we witness a more transcendent expression of “success.” It is not merely external success, as it given by Society to its prima donnas, but a Spiritual response, a sign of inner strength & uncommon ENDOWMENT…
Thanks, Solastro. You’ve lost me. This is too deep for my shallow head, but I reckon you could be on to something.
Go choke on a pretzel, faggot.
smells like JEW
Again, we are living in codified world of talmudism, rarely undertanding what is BEHIND all of these things:communism, psychoanalysis, promotion of pornography, encouraging masturbation in the school, state sponsored “sexual education” of our children, and now-pedophilia. But read talmud – every thing became clear : Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years “and a day” old).
Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b. “When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing.”
Study talmud, my friends “And you will know the truth, and that truth will set you free.” (John 8:32)
What would Jesus, Lao Tzu, or the Buddha say….. Or Quan Yin, the goddess of infinite compassion….
Meanwhile in regard to all this I also refer to mythologist & modern Shaman Michael Meade, author of The World Behind the World, Fate & Destiny, The Two Agreements of the Soul, & Why the World Doesn’t End.. refering to a talk he delivered on healing & The Soul of Change.. at http://www.mosaicvoices.org/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=52&category_id=8&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=83
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As a writer, I’ve researched many stories dealing with pedophilia. Most disturbing is the idea that the proclivity involves “love”. A few years back I was shown websites dealing with child pornography by a member of the FBI. The images were shocking but even more disturbing were the comments left by visitors to the site. They described in gross detail what they wanted to do to the children and this mostly involved giving them pain and hurting them to make them cry. In fact, there was even a genre for this called “hurtcore”. I am told that there are special browsers now (TOR) that make these child porn sites available anonymously and accessible to anyone.
This is such a disturbing topic that few people dare write about it, lest they encourage mentally ill people to seek out their gratification — also there is the psychological damage that results from being exposed to this type of material.
I applaud you for writing this story. While homosexuality may have a valid hormonal cause (adenosterone), a preference for children has no known biologic cause and results from developmental dysfunction — it is patently a form of mental illness in the genre of a fetish.
@ Dan eden : 1.) Not all Pedophiles that are attracted to children want to hurt them. Some men enjoy hurting and raping adult women, but that doesn’t mean every man who is attracted to women wants to harm them .. so I don’t really see why people think that every pedophile is out to harm children. Being attracted to someone is one thing .. meaning harm towards them is something totally different.
2.) Any person who wants to harm children by way of force, rape,see them in pain etc is a person who would harm anybody .. Harmful people are harmful people, PERIOD… And they should be put in the same category as other serial killers, rapist, abusers etc. Like I said above, Just because someone is attracted to children doesn’t mean that they are a rapist or a killer .. and everyone who only likes adults isn’t safe and sane … Psychos come in all forms .. some like men, some like women and some like kids .. but in the end a Psycho is a psycho, no matter who he or she is attracted to
3.) From personal experience .. I have been around kids who have attempted to touch me and play with me in ways that are NOT appropriate .. I’ll give an example .. I have a female friend who has a daughter that attempted to sit on my face one day while we were play wrestling (she is 6 years old) .. her mom saw it and became angry and told her that she did not like that behavior ..she has attempted to sit on my face more than once and I do mean she actually tries to put her crotch in my face .. and not only that, she tries to raise up my shirt at times… she loves to sit on my lap for some reason .. and while on my lap she will attempt to lick my ears or my neck .. And, she always ask me to cuddle with her .. I was surprised that a 6 year old girl even has the word “Cuddle” in her vocabulary .. What’s really crazy is that she acts out this behavior in front her mom ..And her mom has gotten on her about such behavior and told her that it is a “NO NO” ..
One night They were over my crib and Her daughter was taking a bath .. she yelled out my name to say she was done taking her bath and that she needed help drying off .. even after I told her, that her mom would come in there …. and her own mother even told her she would be in there in a minute .. she replied … “I want him to help me” .. I laughed as her mom was said “NO, I’ll be in there in a minute” .. That was a really awkward moment ..lol
So I know from first hand experience that YES, Children are curious and YES, they do attempt to act out that behavior with adults .. most adults don’t see it because they usually don’t interact with other people’s kids a lot .. I have many friends who have kids and I am a person who loves children, so I play and interact with them a lot .. Most kids don’t show that behavior but some do .. And she is without a doubt .. Infatuated with me to say the least ..
So when I see people make it seem like kids have to be “FORCED” into intimate behavior .. I call BS .. Because I have been around kids who openly show that they are curious about intimacy … Not all of them but some are curious … So now, ask yourself a question .. What parent would want to admit something like that about their own child ???
So if people want to believe that children have no interest in intimacy … something that feels just as good to them as would to any adult or any animal then .. they are just being naive … and as long as the world continues to be naive .. then the problem will never be addressed properly .. People seem to be content shouting out the word “PEDOPHILE” … and they think that by actually alienating these people .. they are helping children and making these so-called monsters disappear .. How dumb and ignorant ..
I think that vaginal or anal sex with young children is wrong and should never ever be legalized .. because it could cause harm to their body .. But .. other forms of sex or intimacy such as oral, masturbation, kissing etc. are not mentally or physically Harmful so long as it is not forced or coerced onto the child ..
I think the biggest issue is the fact that most adults are not responsible enough to be trusted with the welfare and safety of children .. for example, if it is legalized .. We have to think about things such as STDs .. Will adults get tested before engaging in such acts?? Most probably wouldn’t … because adults don’t get tested before engaging in such acts with each other .. the difference being that adults know the risk .. young children do not ..
Also what happens if these kids fall in love with the person and want to be with them for life .. Kids grow up and don’t stay small and cute forever .. Some pedophiles are attracted to adults and kids, so some would definitely not mind being with the kid as an adult
But on the other hand, some pedophiles only want children which could cause emotional problems for that child as an adult because the person who loved them for years no longer has intimate interest in them … so there are definitely a lot of Moral issues that would and should be addressed before allowing something that could be so damaging to be legalized
Before I end this long post I want you to think about two points that many of you Naive people always seem to miss ..
1.) Pedophiles don’t tell the world about their orientation .. so many people don’t know it .. but some of these pedophiles are someone’s son, husband, girlfriend, boyfriend, mom, dad etc. So while all of you are so hostile to them … be careful because you may be speaking of the ones you love who just don’t have the heart to tell you
2.) Ask yourself .. if pedophiles will always continue to exist … who will be the future pedophiles??? Will it be your kid?? Will it be your friend’s kid?? If pedophiles have been around all this time and will continue to be around .. that means some of these kids .. will grow up to be a pedophile .. and unless you can read the future .. NONE of us know who the future pedophiles will be .. but we do know this .. It will HAVE to be somebody’s child .. Maybe yours ..
It’s easy to hate a stranger .. someone you don’t know .. but one day it may be your kid … who has this so-called “mental illness” that they now say there is no cure for … what will you do .. KILL YOUR OWN KID??
“I think that vaginal or anal sex with young children is wrong and should never ever be legalized .. because it could cause harm to their body .. But .. other forms of sex or intimacy such as oral, masturbation, kissing etc. are not mentally or physically Harmful so long as it is not forced or coerced onto the child …”
Since you don’t think mutual masturbation or oral sex with a child is harmful in any way if the child is happy to go along with it, may I ask if you have ever had this experience yourself with a child?
This is not a hostile question.
I’d just like to know if you are speaking from experience, and, if so, how the relationship progresses once sexual intimacy has been established. Do you have to be very secretive about your sexual encounters with the child, for example, and advise the child to keep quiet about them?
@Balthazar : Allow me to copy, quote and paste what you wrote so that we can better understand each other
[QUOTE] Since you don’t think mutual masturbation or oral sex with a child is harmful in any way if the child is happy to go along with it, may I ask if you have ever had this experience yourself with a child?
[REPLY] No, I have not. It’s funny you should ask that question and I am glad that you did.
Just because I see something as “Harmless” doesn’t mean I have engaged in the act. I don’t see any harm in being gay, but that doesn’t mean I want to be a Gay man .. hahaha .. I also don’t see any harm in watching reality shows .. but you will never catch me watching them .. hahaha .. do you get my point .. people are entitled to have an opinion and just because they don’t view something as harmful, doesn’t mean they want to do it or partake in the particular activity .. Being a stripper is not exactly harmful, but that doesn’t mean I want my daughter doing it ..
[QUOTE] This is not a hostile question.
[REPLY] I never took as one
[QUOTE] I’d just like to know if you are speaking from experience, and, if so, how the relationship progresses once sexual intimacy has been established. Do you have to be very secretive about your sexual encounters with the child, for example, and advise the child to keep quiet about them?
[REPLY] I am not speaking from personal experience but after being around many children from family members to friends .. I have seen that Kids are not usually quick to tell about something they are doing that is not causing them harm or bringing them fear ..
Notice how kids are always quick to tell on other kids whenever they do something bad, but never want to tell on themselves .. I think this is the reason why Pedophilia is happening more than people think .. Kids usually don’t have to be told “NOT TO TALK” ..They have a sense of privacy and loyalty towards the ones they love .. That I have observed when watching their behavior. If they are enjoying whatever it is they will be quiet if they think that by telling the activity will be stopped or that they will be in trouble.
From what I seen .. children have no problem keeping the secrets of someone they love and who loves them in return .. so long as you keep their secrets safe, they will keep your secrets safe .. Once a rapport and a bond is built between the adult and child .. it is hard for anyone .. even their parents .. to break it …
I’ll give you a link that I saw just yesterday that really made me think .. here it is
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2013/02/06/girl-9-gives-birth-in-mexico/
Now this 9 year old girl describes her relationship with her 17 year old lover as being a “LOVING RELATIONSHIP” ..
the article goes on to say
“the young girl is unwilling to release any further information regarding the association between the two.”
A few sentences later another thing jumped out at me
“Her boyfriend suggested Dafne move in with him and to raise the child together but when the young mother refused, her boyfriend “decided to leave town two months ago,” says Corona.”
So .. maybe it’s just me and my observant mind .. but it seems to me .. 1.) She Made the choice to have this relationship with this 17 year old
2.) She kept it secret until she no longer could due to her being pregnant
3.) He asked her to move in and she said “NO” or in their words “she refused” .. which shows me that she was able to exercise her right to have choice .. she refused .. he accepted her refusal and ran out of town .. he didn’t force her or kidnap her .. he just left
This doesn’t sound like a girl who had to be forced to keep quiet or forced to do anything .. and looks like the two spent a lot of time together and talked about a lot of things .. all this from a 9 year old
Now take The Jerry Sandusky story or any of the other Top stories such as the Jewish Rabbi who molested a young girl .. these stories are what make all pedophiles look like monsters .. they used coercion and force against these youngsters … they used their position of power to get what they wanted .. it wasn’t because they had a close intimate connection with the kids … Notice why those stories make the biggest headlines and the stories where the kid actually willingly went along with the whole situation and willingly kept quiet without any force, harm, or coercion … those stories never make it so big, if they even hit the news at all.
That’s why those children came forward about Jerry Sandusky and the Rabbi … they did not want to do it .. they did not feel a connection .. they felt that they had to do it .. that’s where shame comes from .. all of us feel shame (every human being) if we feel we have been violated or forced to do something we did not want to do .. No matter if it is a kid, adult or elderly adult ..
The other problem with guilt is because society makes them feel guilty if they engage in such activity and enjoy it … which is where the emotional pain comes from when they do enjoy the encounter .. I have read stories and I read between the lines .. the reason most adults feel bad about their childhood encounter when they grow up or the reason why kids feel so much guilt when parents find out … is because Society tells them what they did with that person was very bad .. but then turn around and tell the kid or the adult that it wasn’t their fault …
The kids see parents crying, and talking about how bad it was .. The police are all in their face questioning them.. so .. all this adds to their emotional stress .. On the one hand they are told that a very bad thing happened, but then are told that it’s not their fault …CONFUSION!!
This is why even when kids do enjoy it .. they still feel guilt, not because they were harmed or forced .. its because they feel as if they enjoyed something that they should not have enjoyed ..
So whether it is an adult who grew up or a kid who is still a kid .. once society sees what happened .. they go above and beyond to drive the guilt into that person because they are only interested in making the pedophile appear as a monster
Parents are control freaks .. even grown up children have parents who constantly tell them who they want them to date .. what lifestyle they should live .. what they should do for a living ….
The only difference with adult children is that the parent cannot control them anymore .. but they would if they could … My mom still tries to tell me what to do and I am in my 30s … so part of this stigma comes from the fact that parents want to control their children no matter what age they are ..
But like I said .. when we are grown we can say “OK MOM WHATEVER, NICE TALKING TO YOU, I’LL CALL YOU LATER ..and hang up the phone .. a young child cannot do that yet .. My female friends are always telling me how their parents don’t approve of their dates, boyfriends, husbands, jobs etc … my male friends tell me how their parents don’t like their girlfriend, or what they do for a living .. or where they live etc … so parents are control freaks .. and they see kids more as their possession than an “individual life” in this society .. parents hang on to that ability to control them for as long as they can .. until they move out ..
The other Huge problem is women and the influence they now have on society .. most men look at young girls even if they do not admit it .. And usually they can’t admit .. Because what would their wives say,
or .. what would their sisters say, what would their mothers say, or .. what would their own grown up daughters say if they knew the men in their lives look at young female girls
Men are forced to be silent mostly because of how their women peers would view them ..
I would NEVER expect women to be OK with men dating young girls … because we all know men love youth and women hate that fact about us.. so if it were legalized .. where would that leave MANY of the older adult women?? Single and lonely?? So of course they are against it .. they have nothing to gain from the legalization of pedophilia ..Only something to lose .. and women are a big number in this society so what they think matters ..
Also it is different for women than for men … women have always .. since the beginning of our species needed men for safety and security … so it would make no sense for a woman to date a boy , because he would not be able to fulfill her needs by protecting and providing for her ..
Men on the other hand do not seek out women for protection and security .. they seek out women for pleasure, someone to comfort them, make them feel good, give them affection, cook and take care of the house and children
Young girls can easily fulfill PART of that role .. Young teen preteen girls may not be ready to have kids or sex, but they would still be able to fulfill the other needs of the man until they are ready .. for example affection, pleasure, friendship or someone to talk to ..
Kids are actually pleasant people to talk to and can understand more than we think .. they are more intelligent than we give them credit for ..
Some would argue that this would take away from her childhood .. I disagree .. if the man is responsible, loving, caring, and compassionate .. he could make sure the young girl goes to school .. help her with her homework .. guide her to be successful .. take her to the park, allow her to hang out with her friends and do all the things any other young girl can do ..Simply put a man doesn’t need to take away her childhood just to be intimate with her..
Obviously, She would not be able fulfill all of his needs at a young age .. but the intimacy, friendship and affection would be first .. and as time goes on and she grows older .. she would be able to fulfill more and more needs
This is why we men can have kids at any age .. and women can’t .. nature made it that way for a reason
Now the problem is .. many men are not responsible enough, wise enough or compassionate enough to ensure the physical and emotional safety of a child .. so we definitely can not make inter generational dating available to the masses .. but I do think that there are men who could date a child and preserve them at the same time and help them grow as a person ..
This not possible with boys and women ..unless the boy is a really exceptional individual .. a boy would not be able to fulfill the woman’s main needs of Security, safety, protection and being able to provide for her
Honestly, I think young girls are GORGEOUS .. But I have NEVER touched a child in any sexual way ..
I am attracted to ALL females of all ages .. Shirley Bassey is 75 years old and I think she is hot and I would date her without even thinking about it and I am only in my early 30s … so with that being said .. I can easily get my needs fulfilled by an adult woman without having to mess with children .. But I admit .. I am attracted to them
And I have had many chances to mess with children, but I choose not to .. I respect their bodies and I respect their parents … so even though I look .. I would not cross the line
When I have had fantasies about young girls .. it is never penetration sex .. like when I fantasize about adult women .. I only fantasize about kissing on them or playing in their hair, rubbing and other intimate things that do not involve penetration of any sort.. I have never thought about hurting them .. Penetration Sex with someone so small is not a turn on to me at all ..
That type of Sex is something that should be saved until they are physically old enough and not when they are at a young age .. Having penetration sex too early in life can cause harm .. and why would any man who views someone as beautiful want to cause harm to them??? .. makes no sense ..
But as I said above I do believe there are other ways that adults and youngsters can enjoy intimacy and affection with one another .. Oral, kissing, masturbation, cuddling etc ..
Let me also say that Child porn .. is disgusting to me .. because
1.) I don’t believe in filming intimacy for others to see .. Intimacy is something shared between the two people involved .. So that alone shows how little respect those people have for children
and I view children with highest respect .. In fact I respect them like I do adults .. ALWAYS .. They might be young.. but they are a person just like me ..
2.) There is nothing even emotional about it .. it’s just purely sexual entertainment .. and even though I am attracted to them .. I don’t see them as meat for sale. I see them as beautiful human beings … who at their early stages of life need to be loved and cared for .. NOT to be set out there for everyone to get entertained .. So I believe child porn should never EVER be legalized ..
Sorry about the LONG reply .. to give a short answer .. No .. I have never done it but the thought turns me on a bit … but that’s mostly because this particular little girl does things that are hard to ignore .. Like one day .. she was sitting on my lap while I was playing my video game .. and she started playing with herself .. I have never witnessed a kid masturbating …So I didn’t really know what she was doing at first ..
In fact, at first I thought she was scratching an itch .. but she kept doing it so I asked if she was itching.. she just replied “NO”..So I kept acting as if I was playing the game and didn’t notice … but after a while she started moving her hands faster … I didn’t know how to handle the situation ..I didn’t know if I should tell her to stop or what … so I just handed her the video game controller and told her to play until come back …
I walked out of the room and I went and splashed water on my face because I was stunned by what I saw .. She even left a wet spot on my pants leg because she had a a dress on
… I’m not trying to be graphic because nothing happened .. It actually made me feel very awkward … even somewhat uncomfortable .. I know that sounds crazy that a 6 year old can make a 30 plus year old man feel uncomfortable .. But I have never been in a situation like that ..
Every since that day I have two chairs in my game room so that she doesn’t have a reason to sit on my lap .. but then she will sit on the arm of the chair I am sitting on and bounce up and down to the point of breaking my chair until I say “OK, You can sit on my lap” Then she smiles ..
sometimes she will sit on my leg when I have my feet propped up on the foot stool as I sit in my chair and she will rock back and fourth .. I don’t tell her to stop but I reposition her in a way so that she can’t rock anymore .. because it will hurt my leg after a while ..
I would never do anything to her .. I love her to the point that I would give my life for her .. she shows me more attention than any person in my life .. so she means the world to me … I love her more than I love myself ..
So yes, It is a bit of a turn on .. but I love her to much to do anything like that .. and besides .. I have always been a person of great self control when it comes to the well being of any of my loved ones ..
Sometimes I think she acts that way because my Female Friend doesn’t show her a lot of attention and neither does her dad .. so I think she is seeking out male attention from another male figure who shows her attention and love ..
So I can take my small urge and direct in a more positive way .. because I feel that no matter how she acts .. She should not be taken advantage of .. So maybe I do have a pedophile mind .. and yes It does get to me .. but when you love someone .. It easier to resist the urge .. I try to give her what she needs .. Love and Guidance ..
Besides .. there is this thought in my mind that even though I know she wouldn’t mind me touching her .. and engaging her in that way …
I always wonder one thing ……………….
If I cross that line .. how will she see me when she grows up?? That’s what always keeps me in check .. I would never want her to see me as a person who took advantage of her .. I could possibly lose her respect in the future … and that would HURT ME TO THE CORE ..
And No amount of pleasure is worth losing the respect she has for me ..
Well, you are certainly very candid in your disclosures and I read what you have to say with great intetest. I am a clinical psychologist, but I can’t say I’ve come across many individuals like you before. You admit to having pedophile tendencies, but I think you would hesitate to call yourself a “pedophile” because of the derogatory connotations attached to that term.
Okay, so I am going to ask you a few questions now in the hope that your replies will be honest and truthful. I urge you to tell the truth because, let’s face it, it’s a complete waste of your time to enter into correspondence with me otherwise.
Feel free to ignore any question you consider needlessly intrusive or over-personal.
(1) Have you seen the movie “The Woodsman” which I believe is about a pedophile? (I haven’t seen it myself, but have heard about it).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Woodsman
Do you think this movie gives a sympathetic view of the pedophile, i.e., one that you would yourself approve of? Or do you think this is the kind of movie that is likely to ignite the lust of a pedophile and even, perhaps, stimulate an interest in child sex among non-pedophiles?
(2) Do people who like little girls sexually also have a taste for little boys? Or is this rare?
(3) If you could have non-penetrative sex with a beautiful little girl, aged 9 or less — kissing, mutual masturbation, oral sex — or full penetrative sex with a beautiful adult woman, which would you prefer to have? Imagine a world in which both forms of sex are equally legal.
(3) What age range attracts you in a little girl? In other words, when do they become too old to turn you on sexually in the same way? Also, what age would you regard as too young?
(4) Since you think sexual fantasies about little girls are permissible, provided the child is never touched, have you ever masturbated in private over the mental image of a little girl, including the 6-year-old girl you say you love so much?
(5) If it ever became legal for underage children to offer their sexual services to adults in state-regulated “houses of pleasure”, i.e., non-penetrative sex involving no more than heavy petting and mutual masturbation, would you yourself welcome such an innovation and would you consider visiting such a temple of Adult-Child Love?
I ask these questions because I am genuinely interested as a psychologist. If you can be truthful, please answer. But please, I urge you, don’t lie. That would be a complete waste of your time as well as mine.
@ Balthazar: IN RESPONSE TO YOUR SIX QUESTIONS !!
Question 1.) I have not seen that movie .. I never heard of it until you mentioned it .. but I found the full movie on IMBD and I will watch it after I leave this reply and then I will get back to you on the first question
Question 2.) My taste is for little girls only
Question 3.) I would prefer the beautiful little girl
Question 4.) My favorite age range is 5 to 11 ..
As far as too young .. hmm .. I don’t start to feel an attraction for little girls until they are around 5 years old.
Question 5.) Yes. I regularly think about little girls when I masturbate. Including the one I LOVE.
Question 6.) Yes I would welcome such an innovation. And yes I would most definitely visit.
I don’t mind you asking questions .. I kind of wish all of society was like you .. It is better to ask than assume
Let me know if I missed anything ..
[Quote] You admit to having pedophile tendencies, but I think you would hesitate to call yourself a “pedophile” because of the derogatory connotations attached to that term.
[Reply] I would more so call them thoughts .. “Tendencies” implies that the person is is prone to a certain behavior …Implying that they “Likely” to act out that behavior at some point
“Thought” implies that person does think about something, but not likely to act out what they are thinking ..
I would say I have Pedophile thoughts .. but not likely to act on those thoughts. They will remain only thoughts ..
Thanks for your answers. I believe you are telling the truth. I would like to ask you a few more questions, so hang on and don’t go away. I’ll write again tomorrow when I have some more time.
You’re welcome ..
I see no sense in lying .. They say that the best cure for ignorance is exposure .. To be honest I was kind of shocked that you asked so many questions. When you first started asking me questions, I could sense that you had a high interest level about people who are attracted to children. That’s why I opened up the way I did.
I Never really told anyone that I have those thoughts. So it was kind of nice to be able to open my thoughts for a change..
So I guess I should be thanking you for taking the time to read what I had to say.
It’s not like I can go and tell all of this to my family and friends. I have a rather large circle of people in my life because I am well liked.
I also have a daughter with whom I have a great relationship with .. many friends and even a girlfriend .. None would ever suspect I am a “pedophile”
People often say that I have a gift with children because I connect really well with them.
But then again I connect well with all people .. adults as well.
Since I am well respected, liked and loved by so many people, I would never tell them. I have to keep it bottled up. I think this is the first time I have ever admitted it and talked about it to ANYONE ..
So thank you ..
It frustrates me that people think all pedophiles are out to harm children, and I have to be silent or agree. That is so far from the truth. I am very protective when it comes to anyone who is vulnerable. I value life.
It burns me with anger more than it does other people when I hear stories of people hurting children .. I want to hurt those type of people more than anybody because they are harming precious life that I think highly of.
“To be honest I was kind of shocked that you asked so many questions. When you first started asking me questions, I could sense that you had a high interest level about people who are attracted to children. That’s why I opened up the way I did.”
Let me explain that, as a clinical psychologist, I am intensely interested in ALL the “paraphilias”, i.e., sexual aberrations, and that pedophilia is simply one of them. I have also given unpaid, informal counseling to people who were guilty or deeply bothered about their aberrations and wished to give up their sexual addictions.
I think you will admit, if you are honest, that your pedophilia is a sexual addiction and it is one that has grown over the years and is now fully rooted and become part of your character and identity.
In your case, however, I perceive no desire to change or shake off your addiction. You appear to like being what you. You experience no guilt. You do not say with a sigh, “Oh, if only I could be normal!”
You have actually admitted that, if given the choice, you would rather have a sexual encounter with a beautiful 9-year-old girl than with a beautiful adult woman. That admission itself, together with the admission that you actually masturbate to mental (or even photographic) images of little girls, makes you a full-fledged pedophile — not just a guy with “pedophile tendencies” whose primary interest is adult women.
You will notice that my tone is completely non-judgmental. This does not mean that I sympathize with pedophilia or think it a good thing. Frankly, I would be horrified if child brothels were ever legalized.
So this is my attitude: I would prefer it if you were not a pedophile, because I cannot accept pedophilia as morally correct behavior, but on the other hand I do not find myself hating you or condemning you for it. You will not receive from me the customary vilification. Why is this? It’s because, as a psychologist, I am deeply interested in understanding your condition, nor do I think vilification serves any valid purpose whatsoever. It is counterproductive.
Obviously there is a wide range of pedophile activity. At one end of the spectrum, I believe, you will find men who are sexually attracted to children only on a very occasional basis but who are primarily interested in adult women. They have had sex with adult women and masturbated over them, but they have never done this with children and they would feel guilty about doing that.
Confusing the issue is the fact that puberty is now being reached at a far earlier age than in past times; even girls of 8-9 are now having babies or abortions. In a state of nature, among animals, any female capable of reproduction becomes a valid sexual object. Animals don’t discriminate over age differentials or quibble about the age of consent!
In the Middle Ages, child brides were common and a girl of 12 could find herself legally married to a man in his seventies. The “age of consent” is arbitrary and no one knows where to place it. This is all very confusing.
Polanski had to flee America for sex with 13-year-old nymphette. Frankly, I don’t blame him for being attracted to a girl of that age. I think it absolutely normal. But he was obviously guilty of a serious crime by drugging her and having sex with her against her will while she was unconscious. It was rape, pure and simple.
At the other end of the spectrum, of course, are the child killers, and for these there can be no possible excuse. They are mentally sick. Period. And what of the producers of child snuff porn, the Jewish Russian mafia that have been implicated in this grisly trade? We are now clearly in hell territory.
You may respond to this if you wish berfore I ask you further questions. I just wanted to let you know my position. I am driven by intellectual curiosity and a need to understand the root causes of the various sexual abberrations, one of these being pedophilia.
And I will tell you this in advance: according to my theories, in nine caes out of ten all these aberrations (including homosexuality) have an environmental cause and are not genetic. I do not think you were born a pedophile, I think you became one at some stage. It gradually grew on you, I believe, until one day you became aware of it.
Let me know if I am correct in this supposition.
My next question follows from the above:
[1] Can you explain the circumstances that made you evolve into a pedophile?
I am assuming that there was a time when you were not a pedophile, when you were not conscious of any sexual desire for children. But of course I could be wrong.
[2] Did you have any childhood experiences, or experiences during early adolescence, that might have predisposed you toward pedophilia? My own theory is that pedophilia, like so many other aberrations, is basically a fetish. By which I mean, an addiction developed and reinforced by orgasm.
Thus I read in Kraft-Ebing that a man in 19th century Italy developed a fetish for women with small pox scars. This is because, during an outbreak of small pox in Rome, he had consorted with prostitutes scarred by small pox. Similarly, one can develop a taste for one-legged women. I’ve heard about a hooker in my neck of the woods who never lacks for customers. She has an iron leg. Like this:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRMsWGP1JfCP6bnbQSyTOaSv2j2dqdGl8whaoJGhNAcuZY9PwLdZg
I believe pedophilia, a taste for children, can develop in the same way as a taste for women with small pox or prosthetic limbs can develop, i.e., it is an acquired taste reinforced by constant orgasms.
[3] Would I be correct in saying that your original sexual desires were pretty normal in that you found yourself attracted to girls of your own age and to adult women? and that your atttraction toward underage girls (age 5-11) was a later development? and that your attraction toward underage girls has now more or less supplanted your desire for adult women?
[4] Finally, if forced to choose ONE PARTICULAR AGE for maximum sexual attraction in a little girl, what age would you personally choose? Do you think that age 5 would be considered too young for most pedophiles and age 11 too old?
Thank you for cooperating with me. I am learning a lot from our exchange of ideas.
I knew that would be your next question.
I’ll divide the answers to your questions up into different segments because they are long .. Here goes with QUESTION NUMBER ONE ..
It developed over time, But I’ll start from the beginning.
I think it begins with the inability to socialize with women or other people who are in our age range. I have ADD, so even though people like me, I do have problems socializing with people at times.
I will get along with them so long as I do not see them or interact with them for too long. After my faults begin to surface I create distance until they miss me and then I talk to them again after some time has past.
When I lived in my old city, with my family and friends, I did not always get along with them. I was also kind of shy when it came to asking women who are my age out on a date. So I eventually started spending a lot of time on the internet, talking to women in other cities.
Because of me being ADD and not being able to hold down a job. I never felt confident enough to approach women.
So, the internet became an outlet, a way for me to show the personality that everyone likes about me, but at the same time, being able to hide the other flaws, such as my mood swings, my inability to listen and pay attention to others when they are talking along with the fact that I never kept a job for more than 6 months.
I finally met a woman on the internet and she was similar to me. She did not have a healthy social life either. So of course we bonded quickly. We talked over the internet for about 6 months before seeing each other for the first time. She lived a 1000+ miles away from me so I could not see her all that much.
I eventually went to go and visit her and we got along great, so I went and visited her a few more times. I visited her 4 times over a two year period.
During this time me and my family were not getting along. I was in my early 20s at the time and had no job, no credit, and not even a high school education and had to ask them for everything. I was doing bad to say the least.
They loved me but it was becoming too much for them. I went more and more down hill. Even though I see myself as a handsome and muscular guy, I stopped showering and keeping myself up. So, No women looked at me or gave me the time of day.
Most probably thought that I was a homeless man half of the time. The woman I was talking to on the internet never seen all of that.
Whenever I went to visit her .. I was able to appear as if I was doing better than I was. I would actually clean myself up, cut my hair and put on nice clothes. She really liked me and that felt GOOD.. to have somebody who did not see me as a failure for a change.
So, Finally I ended up moving to the city where my girlfriend lives.
I moved in with her and Things were good at first, but then over time we began to grow distant. She is an Overachiever in life and that would be somewhat of an understatement.
Being successful is very important to her. So she spent most of her time working and building her career. She never judged me for NOT being like her.
She actually liked having me around despite me not being able to hold down a job and get myself together. I always supported her and despite me having ADD I am a knowledgeable man . So she would always come to me for advice and support. I would even help her with projects at work. Sometimes I would proof read her presentations and things of that sort.
I didn’t Graduate but I read a lot .. ALL THE TIME .. So I am usually able to help all people in a variety of different subjects.
But as time went on, we became more friends than romantic partners, she helped me and I helped her. As the romance faded I made other female friends but they always called me for relationship advice, emotional support, or advice on how to deal with their family problems because I am very well versed in human psychology .. It’s funny to me because I can help everyone else except myself ..
So over the years more and more women would take to me .. but only for my intelligence .. never for the same reasons they grew interest in other men. It was never about romance. Only because they knew I had great advice to offer.
My Girlfriend’s family began to have financial problems, so eventually my girlfriend purchased a house with her family in order to split the cost, and now we live in a two family house together. But her family never really liked me because they felt that she could do better than me.
So, being that I am outspoken and my feelings were hurt by how they thought. I began to get into arguments with them. Over the years I have grown to not speak to them at all.
It really bothers me when people think bad of me. Even people I don’t know. I think we all are that way, but some more than others
About 6 years ago her sister had a baby. I was somewhat jealous because I wanted a child with my girlfriend but she didn’t want one because she feared we would struggle because she is the only one working.
So when she first told me her sister was pregnant, I took a negative view of it, thinking to myself “SO WHAT, WHO CARES” ..
Eventually the baby was born and I never wanted to go around all of that much. But as the baby grew older the child started to love me. She wanted to climb on me and play with me a lot. I didn’t like it at first … I was thinking to myself “Why is this kid climbing on me?”
I wanted to say “get away”, but, I am not that kind of person, so I would let her climb on me and I would pick her up and play with her whenever she wanted me to.
After a while, she started to grow on me .. she showered me with attention .. and she would even prefer to be around me more than her own family.
She gave me more love and accepted me more than anyone ever had in my whole life.
As time went on the sister started having more problems with the child’s dad and began to confide in me..The Ironic part about it all, is that she confided in me more than her own sister (my girlfriend).
She quickly saw that I had a lot of advice to offer and that I was compassionate. My girlfriend is not a talkative person. She is a very quiet woman, which is the opposite of myself. So she would not give her sister a lot of feedback. Humans love to get feedback.
So because of this, the sister began to come around more and more for my support. The child’s dad did not grow up with a lot of love in his own life, so he showed his daughter very little attention. I was the opposite of him. I began to shower this little girl with as much attention as she showered me with.
So years kept passing, and me and the child grew closer and closer. As she grew more comfortable she became more affectionate towards me.
So here I was, a 1000 miles away from my own family, with another family who did not like me all that much. The only reason the sister started to like me is because I was there for her in her time of need.
So I started to have feelings for this child, often dreaming of kissing her and things like that because she often kisses me on the lips when she shows her affection. At first it felt kind of strange, because in my family we didn’t grow up having that much affection with any adult.
So I wasn’t really OK with that kind of affection at first, but after a while it felt good. I began to like it when she would kiss me on my lips or face or rub my head. It made feel at peace.
My girlfriend will joke and say “HEY THAT’S MY DON” and she would reply “NO HE IS MINE” and everyone will laugh..My girlfriend never takes it serious though because she knows that she is just a child. So she finds it funny and cute.
So, more and more, the thoughts and feelings began to grow slowly in my head. But I felt guilty, because I started thinking to myself “AM I A PEDOPHILE, WHY DO I FEEL THIS WAY? ”
It bothered me, and I couldn’t just talk about it because all these stories of Pedophiles were hitting the news and the population was growing a hatred for them ..
So here I was having these thoughts that were growing .. along with my anger for women. I felt that they only wanted me around for advice and nothing more. I felt they were shallow, only wanting men with good jobs and nice cars or good credit. All the things I did not have.
So during this time me and my girlfriend stopped having sex as much. She would never tell me but she was angry at me for not getting my life together and I was angry with her in return because I felt she resented me.
She took a very caring approach but I could not tell her how my anger had grown for her as well as other women. How could I want to be romantic with someone who did not want to even give me a child and resented me for being a failure????
I’m not saying she is a bad person because she tries not to show it. But I have a gift for reading people and knowing how they feel without them saying a word. So many times people don’t know that I know how they feel. They think I am unaware of it. I keep quiet about it though and act as if I know nothing.
So because I was turned away by other women and did not have a good relationship with the one I live with .. I grew distant .. but the little girl was always there to make feel better. She made me feel like I wasn’t so bad.
Kids don’t care about the things that adults care about, money, jobs etc. I needed none of that to be accepted by this child, because kids don’t base their judgment on the same things as adults do; Only by how you treat them. You can be the poorest person in the world, but if you treat them good they will treat you good and give their love to you.
At this same time, my daughter who is a teenager (an older kid) also always accepted me because I was her father and hated the fact that I moved away. To make up for me moving away and only visiting once a year, I began to call her a lot.
She began to confide in me more than she would her own mother .. She is closer to me than she is to her mom. Her Mom always ask me how that is possible because I live all the way in another city. She has a lot of problems with her mom, so I am constantly working to keep those two close to each other. Helping them work through their problems.
So here I am .. feeling angry towards one group of people (adult women) and but being accepted by another group of people (younger girls)
Ask yourself, how would anybody continue to have a romantic interest in a certain group of people that they are angry at???
So over time I accepted what was happening, I was becoming a pedophile .. at first I told myself that it wasn’t true.
No way could I be like these monsters they describe on TV .. But, Even though I did not have harmful thoughts such as they do .. I did have one thing in common with them .. I had an interest for children. That made me feel sick.
Eventually, I began to get angrier at all people because even though I had people who loved me .. I always felt as if they would not love me if they knew I had these thoughts. So I began going more down hill socially .. looking at everyone as an enemy .. people who would hate me or try to kill if the knew how I thought.
I think this is what happens to many Pedophiles, they don’t feel accepted by their own peers, meaning other adults. So they turn away from them and seek another outlet. Why would they want to fit in with people who they know would not accept them … so then the need or want for that other outlet grows .. in my case that outlet was children. I started to think about them more and more.
So now days when I walk down the street and see attractive women, I look, but I know how they are .. they would not want me unless they needed advice. They don’t want a man with no job, car, etc and who has now become a pedophile .. So even though they look beautiful to me. I feel turned off and angry at them..
But when I see little girls I feel that they would not care about any of the things women would care about … so I see them in a better light. They are very beautiful just like women without the ways that women think…
Now I rarely talk to people at all anymore. Angry, but more sad and hurt than anything and every time this little girl comes around .. I feel like things are not so bad.
By now you have seen that the little girl I LOVE SO MUCH .. Is my girlfriend’s niece .. which further adds to my guilt ..
But then again .. I have been a light in this little girl’s life as well .. she now has a male figure who loves her and she sees and feels that love whenever in my presence and I feel like I have a person who loves me despite me being a failure in this life ..
I’m not saying her Dad doesn’t love her .. he does. But he did not have a father in his life and grew up estranged to his mother. So he doesn’t quite know how to show it to her.
I had Pedophile thoughts before I met my girlfriend .. but they were not as strong as they are now .. I wasn’t like all of the other guys in my teens and 20s. I didn’t date a lot or get much sex and romance from women and females my age .. at the age of about 22 it began to creep in .. I remember seeing school girls and thinking that they were pretty
And even masturbated about them .. but back then it was only on rare occasions .. after my failed relationship over these past years .. and further isolation .. those thoughts have increased .. The thoughts are steady now .. no longer increasing but definitely not decreasing ..
But I have been angry at women who are my age for a long while now .. Even had a girl in my teens who I had a crush on and never had the heart to tell her .. and she dated all the other guys while I remained only a friend. And I would help her when she had problems more than her boyfriends would.
I’m not making excuses, just explaining my thoughts ..
On to your next question .. give me an hour or so before the next answer pops up .. it took me over an hour to type this one
I await your next post with eager interest, dear online friend. I read with tears in my eyes all you have to say. I sympathize and empathize with your situation absolutely. And so it seems that one thing leads to another… and a complex web is woven… and you are part of that web.
The Weaver of Nights and Days has woven the web in which you find yourself implicated, ensnared, and trapped. If anyone is to blame for your situation, the Great Weaver is.
It is not for me to condemn the Weaver, let alone condemn you, who are part of his web.
Continue with your fascinating narrative, dear Sir, and maybe it will help you more than you think to make these semi-public revelations. Maybe you will achieve a catharsis of some kind.
Of one thing I am certain. You could sublimate all these subterranean passions of yours by becoming a writer. You are obviously well-read and well-educated despite your lack of formal education. I think you have literary talent.
My only advice to you at this stage — reject it if you wish — is to look upon this little girl you adore as your spiritual daughter. In a sense, that is what she is. Instead of lusting after her, which is sad and pathetic and can bring nothing but misery to you in the long run, try and love her with a spiritual love — a transformative, mystical love — as Dante loved the beautiful Beatrice and as Petrarch loved Laura.
Am I asking too much?
QUESTION NUMBER TWO…
I have had childhood experiences but it wasn’t with an adult, it was with a girl who was older than me by a few years. She showed me her vagina. I was probably around 8 or 9 and she was around 13 or 14. I touched her but I didn’t masturbate her or anything like that.
As far as Kraft -Ebing goes .. I would say that example would hold partially true. Allow me to explain. An Acquired taste for something would mean that the person has had exposure. If the person has not had any previous exposure then they would not be able to acquire a taste.
Allow me to use food for an example. When we try a food or beverage that we have not been exposed to .. we usually do not like it all that much at first.
Think about something you have never eaten. It may not taste bad but it may not taste all that good either. So we make weird and funny faces when we try it.
Usually when we acquire a taste for something it is because we have no other option available.
Or in some cases we may have other options available but they may not be in our best interest.
Think of someone going on a diet. They are accustomed to eating McDonald’s on a regular basis. But now they want to be healthier so their doctor or physician tells them that they have to eat more vegetables. If the person is not accustomed to eating vegetables, they may not taste as good to them as McDonald’s does.
But since they know that they can’t continue eating McDonald’s everyday in order to be healthy, they push, or force themselves to acquire a taste for vegetables by eating them more often.
Now, even though I am talking about food, lets come back to Kraft-Ebing’s example .. The reason he acquired a taste for prostitutes with small pox is because it was during an outbreak.
If there wasn’t an outbreak, and he had plenty of other prostitutes to choose from who did not have small pox, do you think he would have still chose the prostitutes with small pox?? Do you think he would have made them his first choice if he would have had a different option to choose from??
I don’t think he would have been choosing prostitutes with small pox if he had other more healthy prostitutes to choose from. But since he didn’t, he chose the prostitutes with small pox and learned to like them over time.
Now, me and you were not around back then so it would not be possible for us to have been there when he first had sex with a prostitute that had small pox. I’m sure the first time it happened he wasn’t exactly thrilled about it.
So coming back to pedophilia … As I said before I believe that a majority of Pedophiles have never acted on their urges. The reason I say this is because
1.) No Opportunity .. most people don’t go leaving their kids with just anybody
2.) Guilt of other loved ones finding out and being alienated by them.
3.) Fear of trouble with the Law
So with that being said, how can they acquire a taste for something that they have not been exposed to??
I think Pedophiles already have the taste before being exposed to children. Now, here is why I said partially true; even though I have thought and fantasized about children since I was in my early 20s, I think that lust has grown A LOT more after being around a child who has given me a lot of affection.
Even though I have never been intimate with a child .. I have had an affectionate friendship with one. And since it feels nice, it is only natural to assume that intimacy would be even nicer since all intimacy begins with some type of affection.
That is why I say that Kraft-Ebing’s example would be only partially true. Now, if all of the women in the world vanished or an adult were to be put in a situation where children are the only option. Then that example would be fully true.
But, not one pedophile in this world can say that they have been in a situation where children are the only option available .. there are many women in the world, so there is no need to acquire a taste for children. I think that the taste is already there due to some other reason.
To me that reason has more to with a person’s social health. Think about Popes … they are not suppose to have sex with any women including their wives. This lack of intimacy leads to them to seek another outlet. This outlet is usually kids because it is easier to coerce them and keep them quiet.
Think about it, now days everybody wants attention. Everybody wants to be famous or be heard. So if a pope has sex with a prostitute, she will more than likely tell friends and other people that she had sex with THE POPE.
This is why they choose children, because they need someone who will not go out and seek fame for having sex with THE POPE. Adults will be more likely to tell other people and not as easy to keep quiet.
They choose boys because that’s all they have access to, not because they are necessarily Gay. If they had access to girls, they would definitely choose girls more often. But people are more likely to keep a watchful eye when a girl is around a man who is not of any relation to him than they would a boy.
But going back to what I said in the first answer above .. it is usually a social issue going on. In my case it was because of my ADD and in the Pope’s case it is because he is not allowed to seek intimacy with women.
It’s not like the Pope can go out to a bar or club and talk to women and socialize like normal people. Man is a social animal. That social nature is what drives us to meet others and make friends, but also to find a potential mate.
This may not hold true with all Pedophiles but I think it holds true with a majority.
I always say there are three types of pedophiles but almost all have the same story .. something has failed in their life on a social level
1.) THE WARM PEDOPHILE – One who seeks intimacy and love from children. These are the pedophiles who never or rarely ever get caught. They develop a friendship and a bond with children. They earn their trust and loyalty so the child happily engages in an intimate relationship with the pedophile. Kissing, rubbing and other forms of intimacy that are not painful or scary to the child.
Because the child enjoys it .. they are less likely to tell. In fact the child is happy around that person. This also causes other people in the child’s life to be blinded and not raise any alarms. People are happy when they see happy children. They tend not to ask many questions when the child appears happy. We expect children to be happy because at a young age with no responsibilities .. they should be happy and carefree .. so a happy child is a normal child in the eyes of most people.
2.) THE COLD/ANGRY PEDOPHILE – are the ones who are only out to harm. It is not really about getting off an orgasm with someone they are attracted to. It is about power and domination. Like a rapist .. the one who only does it because he likes to feel in control. They do it because they like being able to dominate someone. This usually is a case of someone taking anger or hatred out on children .. This why they also abuse them or kill them
3.) THE COLD/LUSTFUL PEDOPHILE – are the ones that are not really doing it because they want control .. they are actually attracted to the child and want an orgasm, but that’s it. They have no emotional attachment to the child.
They purely are attracted and they want to get that orgasm and that’s what they go after. They don’t care about building a bond or an emotional connection with the child .. They don’t actually want to harm the child .. But they coerce them into doing it in a way that makes the child feel violated or uncomfortable …
The cold Pedophiles are almost always the ones that end up on the news. Jerry Sandusky is a good example of a COLD/LUSTFUL PEDOPHILE .. He didn’t really want to harm or kill those boys .. But he wasn’t interested in really being their friend either … he had no emotional attachment to them he just wanted to get his rocks off and used coercion in an attempt to keep them quiet ..
Their guilt of doing something they did not want to do eventually gets to them and they open up and tell someone. Or, parents and family members can see that the child is under some stress or that they are bothered by something, so they begin asking what is wrong and they continue asking until the child opens up and talks.
QUESTION NUMBER THREE
Yes you would be correct. During my teens I can’t remember ever looking at a child in that way .. Thoughts of a child never even crossed my mind..
The attraction towards underage girls was later when I came into my early 20s
I don’t know if I would used the word “supplanted” because my desire for adult women has not been replaced or superseded by my desire for underage girls .. because I am still very attracted to adult women.
I used to only think about adult women, now I think adult women and girls .. Sometimes both together ..
Now days I find myself thinking about underage girls more often than adult women. But, keep in mind curiosity is a major factor .. being as how I have never been intimate with an underage girl, there is more curiosity towards them than adult women because I have been intimate with adult women before.
When we have never had something we tend to be more curious towards it than something we have had ..
I can’t say how it would be if I had been with both.
[QUOTE] Of one thing I am certain. You could sublimate all these subterranean passions of yours by becoming a writer. You are obviously well-read and well-educated despite your lack of formal education. I think you have literary talent.
[REPLY] WOW!! THANK YOU for your the kind words
[QUOTE] My only advice to you at this stage — reject it if you wish — is to look upon this little girl you adore as your spiritual daughter. In a sense, that is what she is. Instead of lusting after her, which is sad and pathetic and can bring nothing but misery to you in the long run, try and love her with a spiritual love — a transformative, mystical love — as Dante loved the beautiful Beatrice and as Petrarch loved Laura.
Am I asking too much?
[REPLY] You are not asking too much. In fact, I have already begun to shift those feelings over the past month or so. My love has become very spiritual .. I want to see the best for her .. and the love she has given me .. And the Love I feel for her ..It is easy to have this mystical love you speak of ..
As time goes on it becomes harder and harder to lust for someone who I see as another daughter figure in my life. So believe me when I say .. I AGREE WITH YOUR WORDS .. 100%
I think this has helped me a lot .. being able to talk to someone and tell them how I feel.
I don’t know if it was by accident or intentionally .. but your questions have forced me to do something that I have never done .. EXAMINE MYSELF ..
I would not have been able to answer all of the questions that you have asked without digging deep into my soul ..
The only way to answer your questions .. was to ask myself questions .. It was even awkward and uncomfortable to answer some of them .. I’m glad I did ..
You told me at one point to skip questions that were too personal .. but I knew if I did that, I would only continue hiding from myself and never acknowledging who I am and why I am the way I am.
You may not know it .. but you have done a great deed in life ..
I have come up with a new phrase .. it goes ..
~”The problem in any problem, is not knowing the problem. Once the Problem is known, the problem is no longer a problem as it once was”~
You wanted me to tell the truth .. and the reason I did .. is because by lying .. I would have only been hurting myself .. and no one else ..
THANK YOU ..
QUESTION FOUR..
Age isn’t really so important .. If someone is attracted to an 8 year old, they will also be attracted to a 9 year old.
The only way I would honestly be able to answer that question is if I were psychic ..lol .. That would assume I know the age of every single little girl I see walking down the street that I am attracted to. I may see them walking and I’ll think to myself ..
“Oh my, she has some pretty hair”
“Wow, her smile is amazing”
“Look at those beautiful eyes”
I’m NOT thinking
“Is she 7 or 8″
“Hmm, she looks like she is 10″
Thoughts like that have never crossed my mind
As a pedophile you don’t necessarily say to yourself….
“If she isn’t 7, I’m not attracted .. she has to be 7 .. I’m attracted to her right now but if I find out she is 8, I won’t be attracted anymore”
Children carry themselves differently, look differently, smile differently, and sound differently from one another.
Some are very open and nice .. some are very shy and nice .. some are very bossy .. some are more humorous
This may come as a surprise, but pedophiles are not as shallow as people think when it comes to being attracted to children.
Age is not so important .. Most adults see children as being children .. One 8 year is the same as another 8 year old .. which is not true .. children are very diverse in look, personality and demeanor ..
As far as too young or too old .. I have seen 13 and 14 year old girls That I am attracted to as well as 5 year olds …
If a pedophile told me that 11 is too old, then I would assume that 10 is too old also .. I don’t think anyone can tell the difference between a 10 year old and an 11 year old ..
[QUOTE] I think you will admit, if you are honest, that your pedophilia is a sexual addiction and it is one that has grown over the years and is now fully rooted and become part of your character and identity.
[REPLY] You are right about that .. Somethings will never go away .. once society accepts the fact that we can’t just change everything whenever we want .. people will learn to live with who they are and make the best of who they are.
[QUOTE] In your case, however, I perceive no desire to change or shake off your addiction. You appear to like being what you. You experience no guilt. You do not say with a sigh, “Oh, if only I could be normal!”
[REPLY] Well, me being a pedophile is not what has caused the problems in my life. It’s not like my “Sex addiction” rules my life .. when me and my girlfriend do have sex .. I enjoy it a lot .. and I have never thought about a little girl while having sex with her … If that were happening then I would be worried .. but it doesn’t .. and I often fantasize about adult women as well .. I have stated that several times.
So does it harm my sex life?? .. No .. the only thing harming that is her career and me working all these jobs with crazy hours and jumping from job to job constantly .. when I am not working .. I am going to interviews ..
[QUOTE] You have actually admitted that, if given the choice, you would rather have a sexual encounter with a beautiful 9-year-old girl than with a beautiful adult woman. That admission itself, together with the admission that you actually masturbate to mental (or even photographic) images of little girls, makes you a full-fledged pedophile — not just a guy with “pedophile tendencies” whose primary interest is adult women.
[REPLY] You have two types of people you are attracted to ..
TYPE A ~ you have had or been with on many occasions ..
TYPE B ~ You have never had ..
Which would you be most curious about trying?? Keep in mind you like both!!
That’s my point .. Now if I had been with both and still said I would take the little girl over the adult woman .. then that assumption would be a bit more concrete .. because then you can say
“Hey Don, you been with both but still prefer a little girl, your primary interest must be little girls”
But you can’t say that .. I can’t even say that I would enjoy it more .. Another psychologist once told me a quote that holds true
“Nothing is as good or as bad in life as we think it is once we have experienced it”
Things we have not done .. we will either think it is worse than it actually is or better ..
[QUOTE] So this is my attitude: I would prefer it if you were not a pedophile, because I cannot accept pedophilia as morally correct behavior, but on the other hand I do not find myself hating you or condemning you for it. You will not receive from me the customary vilification. Why is this? It’s because, as a psychologist, I am deeply interested in understanding your condition, nor do I think vilification serves any valid purpose whatsoever. It is counterproductive.
[REPLY] I knew you were against it from the first time we talked .. I never assumed you were pro pedophilia
But you being against it isn’t going to make it go away. Drugs, Violence and all other thing we see as immoral in this world have been around no matter how much we want them to disappear .. Some things we will have to accept .. there will be no changing .. if it does change .. it will not be in our lifetime ..
[QUOTE] Confusing the issue is the fact that puberty is now being reached at a far earlier age than in past times; even girls of 8-9 are now having babies or abortions. In a state of nature, among animals, any female capable of reproduction becomes a valid sexual object. Animals don’t discriminate over age differentials or quibble about the age of consent!
[REPLY] Can’t change nature .. we were born into it .. we did not create it.
[QUOTE] In the Middle Ages, child brides were common and a girl of 12 could find herself legally married to a man in his seventies. The “age of consent” is arbitrary and no one knows where to place it. This is all very confusing.
[REPLY] You say you believe pedophilia is counter productive, so let me ask you this .. Back in the old days men could marry girls .. now days we cannot .. How much better is society today?? .. cause if you ask me .. all these new rules have done nothing .. Most of the kids in this world that are suffering at the hands of adults .. isn’t due to pedophilia ..
Child labor, child abuse due to people having kids they did not need, violent people shooting up schools, kids are homeless etc.
So yeah .. Pedophilia is illegal .. I got that memo … You and many others will fight to the end to keep it that way .. I Got that memo also
But if protecting kids is the priority .. then pedophilia is not the number one threat to children .. many other factors .. Take Brazil for example: this country has hundreds of thousands of homeless children living on the streets.
Some of them are living on the streets because parents have kicked them out of the house. They have no money to feed them or take care of them, so the kids find themselves in the streets selling their bodies and doing every other immoral thing we can possibly think of.
It seems to me pedophilia is the easiest problem to tackle so humans go after that .. even though I can prove to you that pedophilia is not what is killing most of them or leaving them homeless ..
[QUOTE] At the other end of the spectrum, of course, are the child killers, and for these there can be no possible excuse. They are mentally sick. Period. And what of the producers of child snuff porn, the Jewish Russian mafia that have been implicated in this grisly trade? We are now clearly in hell territory.
[REPLY] More kids have died in Africa due to wars and famine .. than at the hands of of the Russian mafia .. We have already been in Hell’s territory before they existed.
[QUOTE] And I will tell you this in advance: according to my theories, in nine caes out of ten all these aberrations (including homosexuality) have an environmental cause and are not genetic. I do not think you were born a pedophile, I think you became one at some stage. It gradually grew on you, I believe, until one day you became aware of it.
[REPLY] I agree .. but .. do you have a time machine .. can you send me back in time .. to change the events and make it go away .. if you can .. let me know.
Another question is .. how can I have prevented it if I did not know when it was first happening?? That doesn’t necessarily sound like a fair fight. Looks like I was fighting a losing battle before I even knew I had one.
These videos are not to offend you but to show you .. Pedophilia is not going to go away
1.)YouTube .. the Largest video site in the world .. Millions of Pedophiles can view this ..
2.)Open to the public ..
3.)Uploaded by parents and other family members
4.)Us Pedophiles are not suppose to look at girls in a sexual way .. even though this is what we see.
5.)Notice how they are dressed
6.)Notice the comments
7.)And ask yourself one question .. do you think society is promoting Pedophilia?? ..
8.)And if it is .. how will it ever stop??
9.)Why would a society .. parents, family members, and Youtube allow this to be posted and seen by millions of adults .. who are suffering from an “addiction” (as you call it)???
http://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=ojwdQ6Rji5k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVx-dKpiToM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp3wVIks0p0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5feeNhJehck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH1rlVhHXR0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzgRr3x-s1M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0EswGX098g
Time to stop being naive .. Talk about acquired taste …
Have you ever heard the saying
“OUT OF SITE, OUT OF MIND”
Nuff said
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojwdQ6Rji5k
That was the first link, I messed it up .. SHE IS SEVEN YEARS OLD .. Notice her demeanor .. not like a kid .. who made her that way .. who taught her that .. and why .. who posted the video .. and why
Take care .. One day when you change things like this .. You will be making a change ..
Don,
Thanks for telling me all about yourself. I think I have learned a lot from this encounter, though I am not sure what exactly I have learned. Perhaps the need to be more tolerant and less dogmatic.
Here is a simple test which I am willing to bet 99.9 percent of the “normal” heterosexual men reading this are likely to fail.
Imagine a straight guy who likes adult women and has never thought of having sex with a child before. Like most healthy, red-blooded males, he is also a homophobe. Gay sex with adult men he finds disgusting. Two guys in their sixties having anal sex together makes him want to puke. He doesn’t mind two beautiful women having sex. Lesbian sex does not repel him, provided the women are young and beautiful.
Okay, so this is the TEST:
It’s war time and he’s captured by the Enemy and put into a camp of some kind. And he’s told he’s going to be killed unless he agrees to have sex with someone of their choice. He agrees reluctantly, wondering what partners they are going to choose for him.
This is the choice he gets: either he has to have sex with a fat, hairy-legged guy in his 80′s or he has to have sex with a beautiful 8-year-old girl. So he has a choice between homosexuality (perfectly legal) or pedophilia (shockingly illegal in the world outside the camp).
Which will he choose?
I’m willing to bet that, given such a choice, most men would morph into pedophiles immediately and choose the little girl.
Because the alternative — anal sex with the fat octogenarian with the hairy legs — is too repulsive for most normal men to contemplate.
The little girl is part of the scenario, so it’s okay if the guy chooses her. She, too, HAS to have sex or else she will be killed. So if the guy agrees to have sex with her he is doing her a big favor. He is helping her to live.
I have thought up this scenario to show how easy it is for a man to slip into pedophilia if the situation demands it.
In fact, I go so far as to suggest that this proves, that in a state of nature, adult-child sex is far more natural than adult homosexuality.
Well, Don, I guess that’s it. No more questions. Go in peace. Good luck and God bless!
Balthaza
[QUOTE] Thanks for telling me all about yourself. I think I have learned a lot from this encounter, though I am not sure what exactly I have learned. Perhaps the need to be more tolerant and less dogmatic.
[REPLY] Well, Thanks for talking to me. But I can read the way you speak,the words you use and the context you use them in, that you are NOT less tolerant. You are more confused than ever. You thought or think you have it all figured out .. when in reality you will never figured it out .. Because you are not a Pedophile. You are only obsessed with learning about them.
So here is something to remember …
You can walk around with a Blind fold on every day for the rest of your life .. but you will still not know what it’s like to be Blind. Because unlike a blind man .. You can remove the blindfold at anytime. He can’t.
I wish you well, And I hope that one day you will find the answers you seek .. Just keep in mind .. answers do not always hold a solution .. they only hold the truth.
And yes .. 99% of men would fail that test.
~May The Force Be With You~ God Bless ~
Jesus Will Kill Children
“Behold,I will cast her into a bed,and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation,except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.” ~jesus (Revelation 2:22-23)
And this is wht you sick bastards want/
Trust Sholtstein to bring his hatred of Christianity into the discussion. He does it with every topic, even when Christianity or religion isn’t mentioned in the first place.
@MaryC
He did’nt take his pills in time.
CIA O
What we are presently seeing is the normalization of homosexuality; indeed it has already been normalized. Within ten years the Southern Baptists will be marrying gays or at least accepting open gays into their churches. Some may declare, “that will never happen!” but I am certain that anybody would have said the same thing regarding the idea of Blacks marrying Whites in the 1950s but it was legalized by the end of the 1960s and normalized during the 1970s.
The deviants have done for homosexuality what they did for miscegenation, namely legalizing it and normalizing it. The next step on the path to the progressive utopia is to legalize and normalize child pornography and pedophilia.
I believe that America will take the route of “child’s rights” declaring that children have a “right to a sex life” and that parents who interfere are guilty of abuse. If a 40 year old wants to arrange a rendezvous with your 11 year old daughter, you will be brought up on “child abuse” charges for trying to stop her from going to meet the pedophile in a motel somewhere.
There was a case not long ago in Canada where a 14 year old girl was sending nude pictures of herself to adult men over the internet. Her father took her computer away and told her she was putting herself in great danger with such conduct. She complained to the authorities and a judge declared that she had a human right to have computer and internet access and that her father was interfering with her ability to have a social life.
Such legal rulings will eventually be handed down in the USA.
Pushkin is a friggin jew and we all know pornography was invented by jews and helped along by jews to the point now where same sex is openly displayed like it is normal and fags get married. How damn sick is that? I love it tho because I know what is coming down the road for these sickos and it isnt more laws to help their case. Noo sir, If you want a hint you should read Numbers 25 where Phineas runs two race mixing race traitors right through with a large spear killing both at once. This time the city was spared by Yahwah but next time, which is now this time, the country won’t be so damn lucky.
What makes you say “Pushkin is a friggin Jew”? I presume you are referring to the infamous writer of the article, Pandora Pushkin, and not to the famous Russian poet?
I believe Willie isn’t hip to the fact that you are ‘Pandora Pushkin’.
He’s on some schadenfraude trip by the sound of it also.
If you’re going to use trendy german expressions, at least use them correctly. Schadenfreude, as a noun is always capitalized (all nouns are capitalized in german). A good expression being ruined by trendy copycats wanting to sound hip. :~(
Solastro sounds perverted like a typical reprobate jew. It’s pathetic to try and justify mental sickness. Child molesters should be executed.
I agree, JD.
I feel it only fair to add, though, that I do not believe Jews have any monopoly on perversion or insanity. Universal indictment is not just, nor civil, in terms of race…
For pedophiles, YES.
i want to thank don for opening up on a very tricky subject, the goal is to de-trickitize it as much as possible.
he sure sounds like a person of intelligence and above all, integrity and courage.
rather than dwell on particulars, which both he and balthazar have tackled remarkably well, i want to reduce the debate to some hopefully useful abstractions.
first of all, the ever present abuse of language, a sure indicator of jew disease.
a pedophile is someone who likes children, no?
so, how is someone who rapes and mutilates a kid a person who likes children (pedophile), i just don’t get it.
what is his opposite, someone who abhors such a mindset, a pedophobe?
what we are dealing here is the orwellian bundling of moral precepts in order to obscure their true meaning, just like nazi no longer refers to twin concepts of nationalism and socialism, i.e., a just and equitable society based on a cohesive cultural cluster, anymore than the symbol of swastika refers to psychic unity and wellbeing.
jews love to do that in order to obscure the moral code and muddy the waters when it comes to distinguishing between right and wrong, so that they can peddle their evil plagues with impunity.
we need to avoid these epithets, products of jew factories like frankfurt school and deconstruct them down to basic tenets and principles of morality.
otherwise everyone who does not kowtow to talmudic syndrome will be automatically labeled a deviant and a pervert, not kissing judaic ass branded a sociopathic disease.
a true frankfurtian goal might be to associate liking of children with something unhealthy, incorrect, a taboo, like holocaust denial.
by tarring all males with this brush, they become progressively more averse to fathering and maintaining a family.
in talmudic systopia (tikkun olam), goy loses the right to decide between good and evil, all he is allowed is to obey the law handed down by the jew.
the moral code is reduced to a procedure, just what talmud in fact is.
forget morality, just follow the rules of political rectitude, let the jew lawyer be your confessor.
“d”
Thank You Lobro. I am enjoying your wisdom as well You make A lot of sense …
[QUOTE] “first of all, the ever present abuse of language, a sure indicator of jew disease.
a pedophile is someone who likes children, no?
so, how is someone who rapes and mutilates a kid a person who likes children (pedophile), i just don’t get it.”
[REPLY] AMAZING WORDS!!! That is definitely Food for thought … In fact I am going to hold on to that quote .. Mayabe one of the most powerful questions ever asked .. THNAKS FOR THAT!!!
*THANKS*
In fact do you know what that would be similar to.. it would be like the news channel saying
“A HETEROSEXUAL JUST RAPED AND KILLED A WOMAN”
or
” A HETEROSEXUAL MAN JUST KILLED TWO WOMAN THIS EVENING”
Now, what if a news outlet reported a story using those words?? How many men would be offended?? How many men in this world who are Heterosexual but have never raped or hurt a woman in any such way??
That’s what pisses me off ..
The other thing that kind of made me question Balthazar and “her” quest to “Learn”… Is if you notice the tone .. it was only about using the term “Pedophile”
When a man or woman dates both sexes they are called “Bi-Sexual” .. but when a man is attracted to both Women and little girls .. He is still only called a “Pedophile” .. Not a “Heterosexual” Man who also has has an attraction for children … Nope .. Simply “Pedophile” ..
So yes, there is major abuse of the word “Pedophile” …
That’s the reason why when people like Balthazar tell me that they are attempting to learn more .. I kind of find that hard to believe .. just a little bit .. Because no matter how “Non Hostile” they pretend to be … They are still quick to scream out one word ..”PEDOPHILE”
Balthazar was blinded by my interest in adult women ..and could only see the word “PEDOPHILE” ..as the conversation continued
I Assume now that Balthazar is a woman …
Women are more hostile against Pedophiles than men are .. It is easier for them to abuse that word, because not as many women are pedophiles.
Notice how the conversation began in a non hostile way and slowly turned hostile .. even though the hostility was subtle.. once she became focused on the word “Pedophile” .. she began to block all else I said revolving around my sexuality .. ME BEING ALSO ATTRACTED TO ADULT WOMEN AS WELL
It’s like tunnel vision .. once the word “pedophile” enters the conversation all else is BLOCKED out .. but then people claim to want to learn more ..
CAN’T FILL A GLASS THAT IS ALREADY FULL
And once “Pedophile” is heard .. the Glass becomes full at that point ..
After writing a whole book in response to HER questions … at the end of it all .. I am nothing more than “full fledged pedophile”
So I agree lobro .. “PEDOPHILE” = THE MOST ABUSED WORD IN THE HISTORY OF MAN ..
What on earth made you think I was “hostile” to you? Nothing could be farther from the truth. My tone throughout has been tolerant and even-tempered.
Here are some of your quotes .. and my replies.
[QUOTE] That admission itself, together with the admission that you actually masturbate to mental (or even photographic) images of little girls, makes you a full-fledged pedophile — not just a guy with “pedophile tendencies” whose primary interest is adult women.
[REPLY] After I told you that I also think about adult women .. You never asked what the ratio was between the two, because you had tunnel vision. ..Did, you ever think to ask how often I masturbate to women versus little girls?? Of course not. You are only interested in labeling someone a pedophile. So, I’ll tell you ..
70% adult women .. 30% underage girls
Thanks for assuming
[QUOTE] You will notice that my tone is completely non-judgmental.
[REPLY] It’s funny you say that right after your above statement
[QUOTE] I would prefer it if you were not a pedophile, because I cannot accept pedophilia as morally correct behavior
[REPLY] Pedophilia is not a behavior .. it is a term used to describe a sexual orientation .. an attraction to a certain type of people.
But you say this to a man who has never engaged in any type of sexual act with a child and still loves adult women. But thanks for calling me “Immoral” based on thoughts I have.
[QUOTE] I would be horrified if child brothels were ever legalized.
[REPLY] “Brothel” wasn’t exactly the term used when you asked the question .. My mind was thinking something different ..
[QUOTE] Instead of lusting after her, which is sad and pathetic and can bring nothing but misery to you in the long run,
[REPLY] Just because I had those thoughts at some point in the past does not mean I still have them or that I continuously had them when I did have them .. But .. thanks for calling me “Sad” and “pathetic”
Maybe “Hostile” is a wrong choice of words. But Some of your statements were derogatory at times.
I think before you make a judgement you would need to ask more questions .. If your questions were specifically to learn more about Pedophilia .. I understand .. Those were great questions to ask in order to learn more about the subject .. But those questions are Nowhere near enough to make a judgement on me as a person
So, to fill in the gaps you missed ..
Fact 1.) When walking in public .. I look more at adult women than I do little girls. In fact, I rarely see little girls walking down the street that I am attracted to in that way. On the other hand I see women I am attracted in that way All the time.
Fact 2.) An underage girl would have to be wearing something skimpy in order for me to look at her in that way. An adult woman on the other hand can be wearing jeans and a sweatshirt and I will still be attracted.
Fact 3.) A little girl would never be able to replace adult women as far as sex goes because I love vaginal sex way too much. You are the one who used words such as “supplanted” .. Not me. Girls can never replace women in my eyes no matter how much I am attracted to them.
Fact 4.) I even stated that I was attracted to women who are as old as 75. One would assume after hearing that .. I am a man who is attracted to all females in general no matter what age they are .. NOT just little girls
Fact 5.) Not all little girls attract me, just like not all women attract me. Some do, some don’t. Little girls are far and fewer than women.
You say you learned to be less Dogmatic?? Hahaha .. This coming from someone who was quick to form an opinion about a man after only a few questions. Questions that were based only on his thoughts towards girls and not towards females or sex as a whole.
Looks like you have a lot to learn ..
well don, glad you follow my reasoning.
to me, the topic of sexuality is not of prime significance, i see it as a red herring tossed in to inflame the crowd and disrupt their focus, just like immigration, gun control, etc.
i see the hand of the jew, unclean, unjoly and unwholesome.
we must be on guard against abuse of language with intent to mislead.
a mind is like a country, a civilized one is criss-crossed with smoothly paved highways that get you from many points to many points in speed and comfort so that in the end you don’t pay attention to landscapes that pass you in the blur.
eventually, the traveler can no longer function outside this network, everything is subservient to it, he is trapped within.
therefore, i like to hike out in the open country, slow and trackless but i get to keep my eyes open for details, like a native bushwacker.
How do you even think about getting away with inane statements like this for a final observation of intent?
Your conclusion: “how easy it is for a man to slip into pedophilia if the situation demands it”
Having a gun pointed at your head is hardly “slipping into” anything. Is it?
And just one small slip beyond that, is this.
Did it ever occur to you that a large chunk of your “test group” (majority devout (haha) heterosexuals) likely could not even physically “show up” for sex with a child? For both moral and psycho/physical reasons, no doubt. Gun or no gun.
This slip did not occur to you? I wonder why?
@hp: I think Balthaza is basing all of her theories on ASSUMPTIONS only. She is really quick to assume what she knows about men.
Which is why she uses statements such as
“I believe” .. meaning .. she doesn’t really have facts to support it .. it just what she thinks it is.
Here is a quote that proves my point..
[QUOTE-BALTHAZA] They have had sex with adult women and masturbated over them, but they have never done this with children and they would feel guilty about doing that.
[MY REPLY] @Balthaza : How do you know what men think about when they masturbate??
Do you read minds?? Men don’t usually tell all of there fantasies, especially to a woman. So how did you come to that conclusion? ASSUMPTION!!
[QUOTE from Hp] This slip did not occur to you? I wonder why?
[MY REPLY] @hp: LOL .. I’ll tell you why. She is a woman. So here we are back to the age old problem of women trying to assume what they think they know about men.
She also describes Pedophilia as a sexual “FETISH” .. This is where I question her being a psychologist .. a Fetish revolves around an interest in a particular body part, not around a type of person or group of people. I didn’t even study psychology and I know that.
An interest for children is not the same as having an interest in feet, hand, toes etc
Children are not body parts. It’s funny that a pedophile can see that but a “woman psychologist” cannot. What’s even more mind boggling is that she didn’t know the definition of the word “Fetish” to begin with
[QUOTE FROM lobro] to me, the topic of sexuality is not of prime significance, i see it as a red herring tossed in to inflame the crowd and disrupt their focus, just like immigration, gun control, etc.
[MY REPLY] @lobro: EXACTLY!! The prime significance is the abuse of the word to persuade people to think a certain way.
The focus is never on the subject as a whole .. only to sell a certain point by a abusing a certain word. When people focus only a certain word or phrase .. everything else becomes blocked out ..They become easier to manipulate
So far she has used the word “pedophile” to
1.) Assume how all men think and feel. And using her assumptions of other men to abuse the word “pedophile” even further. Assuming that she knows what a man would think about while masturbating.
2.) Drive guilt into anyone who has Pedophile thoughts. This quote proves that point…
[QUOTE-BALTHAZA] You appear to like being what you. You experience no guilt. You do not say with a sigh, “Oh, if only I could be normal!”
[MY REPLY] Do you see what this implies?? She was hoping that during the conversation, she could persuade me to feel guilty .. I DON’T .. SO TOP TRYING .. That Psychology doesn’t work on a man who already knows it ..
homer, easy my friend, you of all the people should be able to slow down that knee jerk reflex.
don is to be commended for coming to grips with a slippery subject.
do you really think that we control majority of our thoughts, let alone likes, dislikes, attractions, revulsions and desires?
apart from being able to do a few operations like recalling some password or PIN number at will, the rest are generated in some autonomous region and the more you repress them, the more they come out unexpectedly all twisted and gnarled.
therefore, the best you can do is face them squarely and learn to control them without resorting to chemical aids.
this is what i believe don is doing.
i will not blame a jew for wishing that he were master of the universe but i will oppose violently his putting his desires into practice.
the same goes for other moral “impurities”, it is like bowel movement.
it is part of some natural process and so long as it is channeled properly without dumping it on someone else’s head, all is well.
morality is a grid we impose over the wellspring of thoughts, some approved, some not but all original and vital.
otherwise we are reduced to self-controled automata that go: “and today, i will think only of hearts and flowers”. how nice ….
I meant to say “Blinded to my interest in adult women”
My apologies for the errors .. I was eating when I typed that last reply
@ Don
You were all sweetness and light, friendliness and gratitude, as long as you thought I was a man. Here are your own effusive words:
“I think this has helped me a lot .. being able to talk to someone and tell them how I feel. The only way to answer your questions .. was to ask myself questions .. It was even awkward and uncomfortable to answer some of them .. I’m glad I did .. You may not know it .. but you have done a great deed in life .. THANK YOU!”
But now that you know I am a woman, it’s a different story. I am suddenly a hateful low-IQ female who doesn’t have a clue about male psychology. You on the other hand, a self-confessed male pedophile, claim to know the inner workings of a 6-year-old girl’s mind.
If you knew more about me, you would get a big surprise. I’ve sent my last “Comment” in a private email to Darkmoon. I’ve told her to publish it only if and when she decides to write an article based on this correspondence.
My shocking disclosures will one day make your blood run cold…!
@ Balthaza: PLEASE READ THOROUGHLY .. because you don’t seem to pay attention to what I say.
[QUOTE] You were all sweetness and light, friendliness and gratitude, as long as you thought I was a man. Here are your own effusive words:
[REPLY] Hahahaha .. This is funny. You think I just figured out that you were a woman?? LOL .. Umm this may come as surprise to you but I knew you were a woman since we first began talking. You speak in ways that men do not speak. Your choice of words alone told me that you were a woman.
That is why I opened up to you the way I did. I trust women a lot more than trust men. I value them more. This is because, I was raised more by mother than by my father.
My only sibling is a woman. My only kid will one day be a woman. My girlfriend is a woman and all of my friends are women. I love women. I will trust them with my life before I would trust a man due to their instinctive, protective and compassionate nature.
But, when you first approached you me you had a more “inquisitive” nature. Then as I answered more of your questions, and you received the answers you were looking for, you began to become more opinionated. That’s fine .. I understand. But I wish you would have stated how you truly felt before you asked me all of your questions.
I would have still answered your questions no matter what your stance on pedophilia was. Next time don’t pretend to be “Non biased” when in fact you truly are. Just be open and honest and don’t pretend to be something else in order to get your questions answered
[QUOTE] But now that you know I am a woman, it’s a different story. I am suddenly a hateful low-IQ female who doesn’t have a clue about male psychology.
[REPLY] I see you like to put words in my mouth. That couldn’t be further from the truth. I think you are an AMAZING WOMAN. I have found myself wondering what your nationality is, your age, where you are from, what you look like and what you sound like etc. I never said that you had a Low IQ. I think you are very intelligent and very opened minded. Being Naive is not the same as having a Low IQ.
We are all naive to something in this world. That is just being a living creature with limited knowledge like every other creature on the face of this planet
I tried not mention or reveal that I knew your gender while we were having our discussion. That’s why I said I was “Shocked” that you even asked questions in the first place. It’s instinctive for women to be against pedophilia or a man dating any girl under the age of being what is considered an adult in this society. It is in your nature .. Most women would not have asked as many questions as you have asked .. That alone makes you a very intelligent woman in my book.
Like I said, I opened up to you because I knew you were a woman, and not the average woman who is quick to write off what I would say, but instead was opened minded enough to ask questions.. In my eyes you are a woman to be admired ..
Your derogatory opinions, accusations, the taking my words out of context and your assumptions are what has led me to become slightly more defensive towards you. I am human and all humans become defensive when they feel that someone is beginning to attack them .. SELF PRESERVATION IS THE FIRST LAW OF SURVIVAL .. remember that
[QUOTE] You on the other hand, a self-confessed male pedophile, claim to know the inner workings of a 6-year-old girl’s mind.
[REPLY] WHAT!!?? I never said any such thing. I even told you I was confused when that particular child masturbated on my lap. I even told you how uncomfortable I was. I never said that I knew what she was thinking at any time .. because I have no idea what is going through anybody’s mind.
If there was any one person in this world who can actually read minds 100%, they would be rich and powerful and would have the power to change this world beyond belief. Again, you need to stop putting words in my mouth and taking what I say out of context.
[QUOTE] If you knew more about me, you would get a big surprise.
[REPLY] I know more about you than you think I do. I have been profiling you the whole time we have been talking
That’s what I do. I have a gift for knowing people. I figured that the more honest and open I was when talking to you .. the more I would learn about you in return.
[QUOTE] I’ve sent my last “Comment” in a private email to Darkmoon. I’ve told her to publish it only if and when she decides to write an article based on this correspondence.
[REPLY] I was hoping you would
[QUOTE] My shocking disclosures will one day make your blood run cold…!
[REPLY] Hahaha .. I doubt it .. Not much can surprise me anymore. I can read people in ways others can’t, so I am usually more in the know about the inner workings of the people I deal with than others would be
I really like you. I think a person like you would never have a problem getting me to open up or anyone to open up for that matter…that is your gift… I can sense who you are .. So I would open up and tell you anything ..
I respect you, But as psychologist it is not wise to be so “DOGMATIC” .. Or quick to shout out your opinions when attempting to learn more about someone or a particular subject. Stick to the facts and not emotion based opinions
You can easily state your disagreement of pedophilia without attempting to judge me as a person by using such words as “pathetic” ..
Use words such as “unproductive” in place of the word “pathetic” .. Sometimes the better your choice of words, the stronger the connection you can make with others
You “TOLD” me .. not “ASKED” me what my primary interest was … anyone in psychology would know that is a NO NO .. People do not like to be told how they feel. They like to be asked. Your questions were not designed to ask me what my overall sexual preference is, they were only designed to call me a Pedophile.
I AM A PEDOPHILE .. I don’t deny that. Am I just a Pedophile?? OF COURSE NOT .. I look at ALL females of EVERY AGE .. even older women ..
But you looked past all of that and were only interested in calling me a pedophile, making snap judgements as to what my primary interest is, and using offensive words such as “Pathetic” and “immoral” .. How am I suppose to react?? It’s not like you said all of that before you began asking questions .. it was only after I began writing a 1500 word reply ..
That was the only thing you did that got under my skin.
Other than that .. I ADMIRE YOU AS A WOMAN .. You have begun earning my LOVE and RESPECT and I have never seen you or heard your voice .. But you have slowly earned a place in my heart.
If I ever were to see you on another Blog, forum or anywhere in life .. I would know who you are by the way you speak .. I have a unique 6th sense when it comes to people ..
I am much more than just a “PEDOPHILE” which is all you are willing to see but then wonder why my tone has changed a bit ..
See when we first talked .. you were using what I call “SCRIPT TALK” .. Meaning you talked as if you were speaking from some script you learned from college or from the internet.
Politicians speak in that same manner and they wonder why the people are always distrustful of them. It is because we are instinctive beings and we can sense when someone is not truly speaking from the heart
I love the way we are talking now because now you are talking more from the heart and not as a psychologist asking a bunch of scripted questions from a bunch of scripted test design to lump everyone into one category.
People are a case by case basis .. remember that
If you would have said from the beginning “LOOK DON, I DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT MAY I ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS IN AN EFFORT TO UNDERSTAND PEOPLE LIKE YOU A BIT MORE” ..That would have been more Genuine
But yes, I knew that you were a woman from the beginning .. you were too kind, soft and sweet to be a man .. And I would never open up to a man.
I wrote more in these past days than I ever have in my life. That is because I knew I was talking to an amazing woman who is open minded enough to even ask questions in the first place. I felt you deserved to have EVERY SINGLE ONE of your questions answered .. I answered them to the best of my ability ..
So of course it got under my skin when a woman that I opened up so much to .. began making negative assumptions and accusations towards me ..
I think you would learn more if you can stop with the “scripted” questions for one second and just have a discussion with the people you want to learn more about. The connection would be stronger and your understanding you be clearer.
If you pay close attention .. You will see that I am not the only Pedophile or person who agrees with Pedophilia on this Blog .. That’s a hint
if bathazar is indeed a woman, then her reluctance is innate and understandable.
women are mothers, the protectiveness for offspring and fear of men is biologically rooted.
among not just primates but many other species, male violence is an established fact.
so let balthazar be balthaza.
Don can relax. His paranoia over women is only too obvious. I am non-judgmental and all my comments about him were kind and understanding. For him to turn against me suddenly and call me “hostile” is an indication of his own acute misogyny.
He need not worry.
My email to Darkmoon does not concern him in the least or have anything to do with pedophilia. It is entirely about myself and my own sex problems. I am not sure if Darkmoon will be able to help me. Indeed, I am not even sure I can trust her. What if she turns out to be a Zionist agent?
i agree that your tone was at no time hostile, only maybe a bit judgmental and i can understand that too, given your perspective, as i explained already.
and i can tell you are no shrink, too thoughtful for that (references to grand weaver and all, not part of shrink curriculum).
and to don: hypersensitivity can be a trap inside an echo chamber, balance lost with each iteration of auto-feedback.
[QUOTE] and to don: hypersensitivity can be a trap inside an echo chamber, balance lost with each iteration of auto-feedback.
[REPLY] I agree
@ BALTHANZA
[QUOTE] Don can relax. His paranoia over women is only too obvious. I am non-judgmental and all my comments about him were kind and understanding. For him to turn against me suddenly and call me “hostile” is an indication of his own acute misogyny.
[REPLY] More assumptions .. Does it ever end?? LOL
[QUOTE] He need not worry.
[REPLY] I agree .. There is nothing for me to worry about
[QUOTE] My email to Darkmoon does not concern him in the least or have anything to do with pedophilia. It is entirely about myself and my own sex problems.
[REPLY] A woman as obsessed with abnormal sexual orientations as you are .. BELIEVE ME .. I already figured that out .. I have just been waiting for you come out with it … I threw my whole life out here .. there is no reason to fear who you are .. at some point we all have to confront who we are.
I don’t expect you to come out like I did, I was just waiting for you to at least say what you just said. That comment alone has increased my comfort with you .. in fact I think all of the readers have just become more comfortable with you whether they admit it or not
[QUOTE] I am not sure if Darkmoon will be able to help me. Indeed, I am not even sure I can trust her. What if she turns out to be a Zionist agent?
[REPLY] I would like to talk to her .. I would definitely know the answer to that question
lobro, the point I was trying to make is most men are literally incapable of having sex with a child. Whatever the reasons are, whether inherent, conditioned, conscious, unconscious, they could not physically perform. Especially at gun point where the only thing needing slipped into would be clean pants. Not too sexy, that.
The death threat as the motivator would actually produce the opposite effect.
I couldn’t see this happening even with fine wine and Al Green as motivators.
Not directed at any person, rather the premise itself.
That’s an interesting thought. But I once actually carried out a survey of male students at a university, I asked 12 rugby students: “You are forced at gunpoint to choose between two sexual partners — an ugly 80-year-old man or a lovely 8-year-old girl. Which would you choose?”
Nine of them chose the underage girl, albeit reluctantly and with much protestation that they were not pedophiles, and the other three refused to answer.
Just try the experiment yourself.
This proves to me that pedophilia is less repugnant to most men than sodomy is, i.e., on a visceral, instinctive level.
hah!
describe in some detail (sufficient to arouse at least 75% rugby players) a lovely 8-year-old girl.
what does the word “lovely” entail?
to me it seems that your question was loaded with hazards of confounding and colinearity, i.e., young-old, lovely-ugly, male-female.
you are lucky that a statistician did not review your survey design.
Talk is cheap, especially among young men.
Perhaps they did choose the child, but that’s the easy part. Let see them perform. As I suggested, I do not believe the majority (95%) are capable of such a thing.
I was mouthing off about a particularly nasty neighbor once, about what I’d do if… But when I turned around and there he was – yeah – my much bragged about prowess suddenly morphed into jelly legs.
Effortlessly, I might add.
(where’s that gun when I really need it?)
@lobro
[QUOTE] to me it seems that your question was loaded with hazards of confounding and colinearity, i.e., young-old, lovely-ugly, male-female.
you are lucky that a statistician did not review your survey design.
[REPLY]
I was thinking the same thing
@ hp
It is hard to say what anyone is capable of .. we humans are always hiding our true thoughts and wearing mask in order to fit in, in society. None of of us like to be 100% truthful when it comes to our deepest darkest thoughts .. NONE OF US
Here’s a thought that should certainly be extremely useful in any poll/survey/attitude/type data gathering.
Informative to say the least is what these men would choose. Probably three million of them behind bars now, ranging from innocent to Hell’s the limit.
I’d have to bump my % of “no way” with a child on up to around 99.9%
Sex with the old man? Ha! Ha!
One of those oddities of trivia that such cold blooded murderers, killers, rapists, sadists, animal abusers, etc. are so extremely averse to sex with a child.
And while I’m at it, isn’t it also really, really, really, really odd that 90+% of those prisoners are men?
Are men really nine times more criminal than women?
I don’t believe that either.
If somebody put a gun to my head and told me to eat shit or drink battery acid .. Of course I am going to choose eating shit over drinking something that would dissolve my insides slowly and give me horrible and painful ..
Even though I would rather not do either one .. if my life is going to be taken and I don’t have a choice .. then there you go ..
1.) DIE
2.) Bacterial infection
3.) DIE a slow painful death
^^ THINK ABOUT IT
So me opting to eat shit versus drinking battery acid still doesn’t prove that I like eating shit ..
It’s called the LESSER of TWO EVILS ..
That being said, I think these hypothetical examples y’all have given are complete BS
Here is a better test .. Take a group of beautiful 9 year old girls .. and any group of men .. allow the girls to sit on their lap and stroke their penises .. See which ones get a hard on .. And make sure it is in an environment where they are comfortable … GUARANTEE them that NOBODY will ever know that they participated in such a test
Then you will have your answers ..
I am willing to bet my LAST DOLLAR that MOST of them would be aroused and have a hard on if they are Heterosexual
Since it is illegal .. it is easy for many men to say that they wouldn’t be aroused, because such a test will probably never be given to them.
Think of people saying what they would do if they won the Lottery .. since most people never expect to win it .. They themselves cannot be completely honest.
As you say hp .. TALK IS CHEAP .. So maybe you can sit here and say that you would not get a hard on .. but going back to your own words .. TALK IS CHEAP ..
I believe that since society looks bad at such a thing .. most men would block out any such thoughts and have probably never thought about a test such as that ..
But if it could be real .. I wonder how many men would pass .. My bet is that 90% would not .. LOL ..
Keep in mind .. that during the test they would NOT be allowed to touch the young girls back in return .. Only tthey can do the touching ..
I bet my savings that 90% would fail .. HANDS DOWN .. FAIL ..
Of course men will not admit it .. but then again most men will not even admit to their wives that they think her sister is sexy .. so go figure .. LOL
Since it is NOT possible to read minds .. Only a test such as the test mentioned above will tell the true story
I’m not sure about that.
If I were a guy, I don’t think I’d take all that kindly to having my penis stroked by a 9-year-old girl. Even if she were gorgeous. If she’s a horrible little brat, I’d fling her off my lap and give her a damn good thrashing.
Most guys have an inbuilt “THOU SHALT NOT” against having ther penises stroked by 9-year-old girls… exactly as they would if their own beautiful 9-year-old daughter tried to do something like that to them.
Ever heard of the incest taboo?
Your average decent guy is going to flinch away from such kinky and aberrant behavior instinctively. It’s okay for YOU to lay down the law and talk about 90 percent liking it.
Hell, you’re already corrupted! You ARE a pedophile! It’s a f***ing wonder you didn’t say a HUNDRED percent!!!
[QUOTE] Hell, you’re already corrupted! You ARE a pedophile! It’s a f***ing wonder you didn’t say a HUNDRED percent!!!
[REPLY] All this coming from a woman who is feeling guilty about sex problems that are obviously SO BAD .. that she can’t even say on a blog under an anonymous name
Hahahaha …
Not to mention a woman who LIED about being a psychologist ..
Hahahaha … You are not even worth a response anymore ..
I already made you Look LIKE A FOOL .. So please .. leave this conversation for the people who are not lying about their profession
You are MUCH MORE corrupted than I am .. that’s why you feel so much guilt .. enough guilt to lie .. enough guilt to insult and disrespect a man you don’t even know .. enough guilt to go crying to Darkmoon …
Hahahahahahahaha …
I tried to be nice to you but you just can’t stop .. so now it’s time to talk about how pathetic a woman must be to lie on an anonymous forum .. And keep her REALLY BAD sex problems a secret …
And why would a daughter do something like that to her father??
WOW!! I am really starting to question you .. The things you say are really starting to tell me about who you are .. A SICK LUNATIC ..
It’s one thing to be a pedophile .. but you are some psycho chick .. who has A LOT of secrets to tell ..
But they are sooo bad .. you can’t .. Hahahaha
And yes .. you do have a low IQ .. anyone who doesn’t know the meaning of the word “Fetish” is severely dumb and needs to go read a book ..LOL
I tried to be nice to you .. but enough is enough .. I enjoyed telling you my story because I think it turned you on .. that is why you are sooo obsessed .. It had nothing to do with me because you don’t even know me .. so you would care very little about me
Those questions were for yourself .. and the fact that you are a woman who has already lied .. shows me that you are the SICKEST one of all ..
Hahahahaha
P.S. You don’t know what the average guy would do because you are not a guy .. just a deranged woman who think she knows men…
If they told me to fly I’m pretty sure I can’t do that either.
The only thing I see in common with all these is the wet pants, minimum.
Sorry for getting off track and folks get riled up.
Must be my profession.
I thought I’d quit.
Wow what comments and Great article. I believe Pedophilia is evil and is abnormal but in the case of Don I applaud you for not acting out your thoughts even when you knew you could of done it and I applaud you greatly for being intelligent enough to know the after effects those actions would have caused no matter how pleasurable it would have been. Pedophilia is just another form of sin that could be conquered only through Jesus Christ because its source comes from demons who tempt people to do these acts of sexual depravity, it all comes from demonic influences that the world has been ignorant of for decades. The only cure for society and the world at large is The Bible but until this world realizes that nothing will ever be cured and iniquity will wax worse and worse.
Wow what comments and Great article.
I agree. Darkmoon is something else, in a league of her own. And the commentators here are pretty brilliant. This is because they are allowed to speak freely, with no fussy monitoring.This is truly a free speech zone…
It makes me really sad to see articles like this. I don’t know if what I have to say has been said, and honestly I don’t care. I am a pedophile. If you want to get technical you can call me a hebephile.
I don’t even dare touch children, and I don’t look at child pornography. What some of you don’t understand is the absolutely crushing shame and guilt I am faced with every single day because of my secret. There isn’t a soul on this whole planet who knows this about me, and if it stays that way until the day I die, I will finally be able to breathe easy on my last breath. Every day, I see children, and no, I don’t feel an urge to jump on them, tear off their clothes, and fuck them. What I fear the most is simply that someone will notice something in the way I look at them or interact with them, and that I will be discovered and my life completely ruined, just because of how I FEEL.
I am not a bad person. I have a job, and every second of every day, I try to be as good a person as possible to the people around me. I believe that everyone deserves kindness; a little something I picked up from my mom. There is no way in HELL I will EVER act on my desires under ANY curcumstances. The closest I’ve ever come was one time I played video games with my 12 year old cousin on my lap, and became aroused. Needless to say I cut that short instantly.
Now enough about me, what I really want to say is to the author, and it is this: HOW FUCKING DARE YOU WRITE THIS HORRIBLE PIECE OF TRASH. Gay rights is just a preamble to FUCKING CHILDREN?! Are you high, or just sheltered? For the love of God, PLEASE do some research before you toss such a careless piece of literature (if it can even be called that) into the world. I can wrap my mind around the fact that I secretly desire to FUCK CHILDREN, and yet I have trouble wrapping my mind around the notion that a fight for the right of two consenting adults to LOVE eachother could somehow be a precursor to pedophilia running rampant. I’m a goddamn pedophile, and if anyone even SUGGESTED making sex with children legal, I’d be fighting it tooth and nail with all you ‘normal’ people.
The real problem for me is that not only can I not masturbate to images of the children that I so savagely want to, but I can’t even masturbate to a cartoon representation of them. I’ve broken down and re-downloaded CP several times because the only outlet I have for my desire is my imagination. I feel completely and utterly trapped in my own mind. I cannot share my secret with anyone. It doesn’t matter that I don’t act on my desires, nobody will care. So I will continue to put up my facade, and I will continue to pretend to find women with large breasts attractive, and I will continue to have my soul eaten away by the guilt, and the shame, and I will face this alone. There will be nobody to offer me words of consolation when I get depressed about it. There will be nobody to support me when I am weak, or encourage me when I am strong. I feel like a heroin addict, even though I didn’t do this to myself. My one dream is that one day, I’ll wake up and from that day on, I won’t have any of these FUCKING desires anymore, so I can just me a normal goddamn human being.
TL;DR: I’m a pedophile who doesn’t act on his desires, because I have morals just like everyone else, so you can fuck off if you think I’m interested in legalizing any of the depraved shit that I can’t help but be into.
Hi, Throaway!
My name is Primrose and I am an internet writer (see article below), but I am also a human being and I have read your post with great understanding and sympathy.
HITLER WAS NOT A JEW, by Primrose Pryde
http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/hither-was-not-a-jew-by-primrose-pryde/
I have various problems of my own which have made me more tolerant to the problems of other people. I am quite goodlooking too, so I have many admirers among the opposite sex. But this does not prevent me from having many problems with regard to men and sex.
My main problem is that I am getting increasingly frigid, and the reason for this is all the boyfriends I have had have wished to make use of my body as a sex object. Too much, I mean. Demanding too much sex. Sometimes 5-6 times a day. I guess it’s my fault for being so attractive. But I can’t help that. I am sick to death of having to open my legs so often and give in to these satyrs. It’s not fair. I want to be left alone to live like a nun and cultivate chastity.
So this is my problem. Revulsion at sex. Too much sex being expected of me. Always being pestered. Hit upon. Propositioned. The result is that I have become a “manhater” and turned to other women for companionship. What I seek now is a loving platonic relationship with another woman. I have tried to establish such a relationship with several women. Most of them don’t want to know and one even asked me, “Are you a lesbian?” So I had to back away.
On the other hand, the women who respond to my overtures tend to be lesbian. They are willing to give me love provided I allow them to do things to me. It’s a bit scary. This is the price of love. Even with women, sex is the price of love.
Okay, I won’t talk about myself any more. I only told you all this so as to convince you I wasn’t unsympathetic to your problems because I am so fucked up myself. So I ask you, what the hell am I to do? How can I find love and friendship in this world if all they want, the people in my life, is to tear off my clothes and plunder my naked body?
I am getting on now. I am 29. Soon I will be over the hill. I long to keep my youth and beauty, but I can feel it flowing away from me in hopeless longings for paradise.
“Primrose” is of course not my real name. It’s my nickname. All my friends call me that because I radiate innocence like this little wayside flower. I long for innocence. Purity. But I cannot have it. It is because my body has been sullied by vulgar overusage. I have been pummelled and pounded so much, day after day, that I am saturated in all the foul juices of sex. I was a primrose once, now I am a poison flower.
I came to this site because someone sent me a Darkmoon poem. It was like having someone pierce my breast with a spear. It tore me apart and made me cry and do things in my room that I shouldn’t do. So I was sucked into a delicious evil by Darkmoon. She corrupted me with the germs of her madness.
Do you know what I am talking about? I guess not. One of these days I will commit suicide, unless someone helps me…
Hi Primerose,
Please,don’t commit suicide.
For some reason I landed at your comment, after surfing a while on the web.
Do you love yourself? Are there aspects that you don’t like about yourself?
So be reborn again. Take the alchemists way. You can purify yourself. Listen to your intuition. Your guardians. Give toxic people, if you haven’t already done so, a kick in the butt and throw them out of your dimensions.
There are big changes happening, even in my circle and myself.
The is no reason to give up as we will prevail.
There are some interesting issues discussed in the video below.
(I don’t agree with the political view the is being present in the video, in that case I’m with your opinion)
But the consciousness topics are very intriguing and helpful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cHkhJpmh50
Primrose, take care and feel free to write back
Hi, Sword of Light!
Nice to meet you. I haven’t got much to say. Can’t think of anything clever or profound, being a person of average intellect.
See ya around then… if you happen to visit again!
Primrose
Hi Primrose,
So you consider yourself of average intellect? Then don’t blame your horny boyfriends you got to know or women who wanted sex from you as a price. Well you prove to yourself that you are average and apparently you want your suffering.
Well, there isn’t anything profound to say to me rather to you, the two questions I’ve written down are for any person who wants to really change anything in their life.
Also questions like: Why are you in the situation you are in? Why do have a job that you don’t like? Why do always meet the same tipe of man, or only man that want to tear your clothes off etc..? these are just examples. The point is in doing self-analizations and finding out what is good for you.
The alchemist knows that the inner world of a person is a being reflected in their outer wold.
It has never been different in the history of existence.
Also relationships are a reflection your inner world. The very same people you are in regular contact shows aspects of yourself you like about yourself or what you don’t like about yourself (a boyfriend who is a tyrann for example if you don’t like things about yourself, beating up etc.)
You have to make yourself LIKE A SWORD HARD AS STEEL , don’t expect anyone to do things as you probably would like them to do.
Unfullfilled expectations may easily hurt one.
And many people are weak and and are incapabale of being truly reliable.
These are dark ages where we are living in. Where the sacred word doesn’t count anymore and the only issues being mostly discussed are :
relationsships (and these on a very infantile superficial basis), fucking, drinking, eating, basically, how to get the next chick, man, sports, and where most poeple can’t get out of their emotional state they are being conditioned in. ( by school, parents, teaches, mass media, etc..)
And no, you are not sufficiently fucked up, the truth is something within you was looking for the people that haven’t degraded themselves to pure decadent sex. Something within you is the pure light that could see that things are not right. Just give this light within you more space.
Be you!! and it’s good thing when you recognize you own fucked-upness. At the beginning of this point you can start anew, be reborn again. Get rid of aspects of you old life and be the person YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE….
I don’t say it’s easy nor that you will be always be happy, but no price to high to be yourself.
Btw. A lof of people are TOTALLY fucked up and it looks like, by reading your post, that there are a lot of in your surrounding that you may have called “inconsciously” into your dimension.
Even sex has become so degraded that is simply fucking – nothing else – after the interchange people are empty of energy, because they themselves are empty.
These kind of semiautomatons always need someone else to be stimulated, like their husband, wife, girlfriend/boyfriend, friends, colleagues etc…
What ‘m saying is: They are incapable of doing things on their own. They don’t have the inner power to create themselves, as they are guided by fear.
In the worst cases they can’t even spend time with themselves. They need always distraction, in form of movies, sport events etc. …Nothing wrong with the events in themselves… But people have made their emotions totally depended on secular unimportant events….
Anyway
Enough for tonight, I hope you have Good Morning, Take Care
Well, Sword of Light, thanks for taking the trouble to write to me at such length. I sure do value your advice, being a rather lost person in life’s maze of madness.
I keep looking for the light at the end of the tunnel, but I ain’t seen it yet! LOL
Maybe one day…
Primrose
Pedophilia is a made-up word, like racism. When they unleashed their feminism, they anticipated this bum’s rush at the young ones who can show nothing but their natural female tenderness. It takes years of indoctrination in the schools and by the image of the beast to corrupt the powerful feminine instincts of a young girl who is just starting to feel sensual and express it so naturally, it’s wholly outside of her awareness.
It also takes the absence of the husbandry of the men. The feminist flogged weewees are scared to death of little girls. Did it ever occur to these feminist flogged bozos that a young girl might be approaching him to get some other appraisal of what she is and her value? The girls a threat to women, so they won’t get it there. Boys have to hold them down on their dickhead level, so they won’t get it there. It takes the seasoned man to see the value and the potential there, the way a farmer appreciates the first splash of red on a green tomato. To eat it is to waste all of that potential. If these assholes, who think of them as “jailbait” or “too young” who automatically presume them to be sluts or something to fuck , would talk to some they would find out how sexy they really are and how sexy they are NOT. I swoon and am struck helpless with awe when a girl with that uninhibited assertiveness (having never been burned, they fear no flames. That’s virtue, and the man should protect it, not insult them for it) points her affections at ME, like any guy would. THEY’RE NEVER BARGAINING TO GET FUCKED!
Look at the women of the 60′s. Relatively, they mae the girls look like tomboys. Now, it’s the other way around. These boobs bulging out of bikinis is confrontational and a power play. It’s BUTCH! On guard for panty flashes and pole dances, the young girl gets in another way and makes you find her body as sexy, because that’s just what goes with her mind and personality. Trying to like a woman’s mind because you like her body is an exercise in futility. Isn’t this what women bitch about so much? maybe they should take a lesson from the girls and try to undo some of their own feminist flogged behaviors.
So, a guy gets his “experience” from a girl and the girl wants a guy with experience. Where did all of this start? Was the first teacher the man or the woman? It’s my firm belief that it was a young girl in puberty, fresh to those feelings and uninhibited about pursuing what she deems to be right. Women work so hard to compete with men and imitate what men have already done, they’ve abandoned their own niche at doing what a man can’t do. Tricked, every one of us.
And those videos of the young girls take a hell of a lot of imagination to be seen as sexy. Those are just girls being girls and showing off. They’re naturally gifted exhibitionists. If you think that’s sexy, they’ve pulled a child psychology trick on you like “don’t think of pink elephants”. All you can think of is pink elephants, isn’t it?
There’s an archetype of the siren in every man’s psyche. Don’t pin that shit on our lovely young maidens.
Shirley,
I’ve read your post carefully. Once. Twice. Three times. In a desperate attempt to understand what you are saying.
I feel you are trying to say something important, but in a poetic kind of way that bypasses the intellect.
After reading your words, I feel I’ve been hit somewhere deep in my psyche by a microscopc dart gun… but I’m damned if I know what you’ve said to make me feel like that.
This is weird….
Maybe if I read your post for the fourth time, a little thought bubble will pop in my brain and I’ll be able to say, “WOW! This is communication!“
Time for a glass of vino blanco…
LOL You’re very kind. I don’t understand it either. It was all over the map without ever coming to a point.
This is why people use outlines for something so windy. Typing it should be the menial part.
Sorry about that.
Nevermind
Anything particular you were curious about?
“Anything particular you were curious about?”
Yeah, I was curious about your love life, but I did not dare to ask. Don’t want to seem pushy or prying, because I’m not. Just curious in a detached sort of way, because you seemed an interesting person…
Hey, sorry for asking! Pardon my curiosity. Je regrette…
LOL It’s okay. You’re kinda funny!
I’ve had a thing going on with a china girl for about 4 years. It’s a strange thing. She has dreams about me and sees what I’m wearing and what I’m doing and where I am. We can wake eachother up, but she won’t GET up anymore. In my wildest imagination, I like to think I’m an Elohim and I created her and that’s why we know eachother like we do lol. Seriously though, I wonder if it was us who did it. It seemed fateful for the strangeness of it and I wonder if the supernatural matchmaker might have left it out of disgust. She’s bitter about some things. I don’t know what will come of it. I gave it back to fate.
It’s YOUR love life that’s gotta be interesting.
Shirley, I knew you were like that. I just knew it. I read between the lines. You’re making my blood dance through my veins…more than it should. That’s naughty!
Who is this “China girl” anyway? You make her sound unreal. Your prose style is pretty weird also, kinda poetic and full of esoteric allusions. Magic realism, you know what I mean? I’ll have to look up that word “Elohim”, as I’m not quite sure what it means. Just goes to show how ignorant I am.
Fate. You talk about fate. Do you believe in fate?
As for my love life, it’s non-existent right now. I’m trying my best to be chaste. As chaste as a nun. It’s not easy. I have these longings, but I try and put them out of my head. Because I always get burned when I love too much. Nothing good ever comes of it.
After the orgasm, Shirley, what is there? Post coitum omne animal triste. I don’t know any Latin, but I remembered that from my education. “After sex, all the animal is sad.”
That’s how it is. Ah, dear God, sweetest songs are those that tell of saddest thought…
Talk to you later, Queen of Tartary!
According to a website titled “The Talmud”
Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl [specifically, 3 years and a day old]
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
“Each man to his taste, as the woman said when she kissed her cow.”
— Charles Dickens, The Pickwick Papers
Yeah, fate makes it’s self pretty evident. What do you do about it? LOL that can only be a dumb question coming after that 1st statement. When you resist it, it just redraws the strategic map and you deal with it making it’s influence felt in another way. I’ve thrown some fits when easy would have done it. Fate’s way is easier, I suspect but I don’t believe it yet.
The Elohim are Yahweh’s sons and they did the first 6 days of creation, including ‘male and female, equal, in OUR image’. Yahweh took over himself in the 2nd chapter. That’s how it translates. So, it’s funny when I think I made a girl just for me. lol who really knows…
I agree with you about the orgasm, but I didn’t think it was like that for the girls too. I thought that was why they’re naturally brassier and sassier. Lev 15: 15 and 16. Unclean until evening. Us guys have been making ourselves unclean until evening everyday since were were 12 or 13. Girls don’t suffer that, by their own hand. That’s why I don’t agree with girls getting fucked too young.
It’s becoming a rough week and fate hasn’t stepped in with any revelations. So I better get to pounding sand earlier today.
I find you so hard to understand. For example, the following:
I agree with you about the orgasm, but I didn’t think it was like that for the girls too. I thought that was why they’re naturally brassier and sassier. Lev 15: 15 and 16. Unclean until evening. Us guys have been making ourselves unclean until evening everyday since were were 12 or 13. Girls don’t suffer that, by their own hand. That’s why I don’t agree with girls getting fucked too young.
Hmmmm…aren’t girls also unclean until evening by their own hand? Your last sentence is unclear. Are you saying the younger they get it the better? Or are you saying they should wait until they’re a bit older?
It’s becoming a rough week and fate hasn’t stepped in with any revelations. So I better get to pounding sand earlier today.
A frustrating week? So pounding sand eases stress? Does “pounding sand” mean punching bag in gym or jogging on beach?
Just curious, Ms Enigma.
About pounding sand; sometimes I bust my ass at work and nothing gets done. It’s like pounding sand. I dreaded going back to work yesterday, because I thought I would just be pounding sand again.
The other one was a lot more cryptic. Sorry, I was in a hurry to pound sand. Lev. 15:15-16 says If a man has an issue of semen, he will wash with water and be unclean until evening. If a man has an issue of semen and is with a woman, they will both wash with water and be unclean until evening. I guess being unclean is something like guilt. So, going by that, I didn’t think girls or women felt that big letdown after getting their rocks off by their own hand. And maybe, that’s why the womenfolk are more brassy. Don’t think I fancy myself an expert on women and girls. I’m a lifelong student of women and girls because, well, they’re interesting. But, trying to figure them out is about as productive as pounding sand.
I don’t believe in the young girls getting fucked. The sights and scents coming from them get more powerful if they don’t. Do you know what makes sensimillia pot like it is? I see bees hover above a rose in bloom and then pass it by for one fully bloomed. Afterwards, the rose it chose withers. That seed changes things whether they get pregnant or not, it’s my guess. When girls do that too young, do they turn out a little bit frumpy as women? Sexy women and girls have something alive inside. Lady Caca and Madonna need not apply. lol
I’m speculating. Do feel free to correct any errors.
Hey Shirley, you know something funny? Where I come from, “Shirley” is a female name. I thought I was talking to a woman all this time! Turns out I’m talking to a man, right? Wow, talk about a comedy of errors!
Suddenly the penny dropped that you were a man when I reread the sentences you wrote below:
“Don’t think I fancy myself an expert on women and girls. I’m a lifelong student of women and girls because, well, they’re interesting. But, trying to figure them out is about as productive as pounding sand.”
“Us guys have been making ourselves unclean until evening everyday since we were 12 or 13. Girls don’t suffer that, by their own hand.
“I swoon and am struck helpless with awe when a girl with that uninhibited assertiveness … points her affections at ME, like any guy would.”
Shirley, take my tip. In future when communicating with people on the internet, especially about sex and orgasms and so on, please do make it clear to them that you are a GUY and not a GAL!
I only found out this minute, by googling the name “Shirley”, that this is a unisex name. In my neck of the woods, as I say, only women are called “Shirley”.
Whew, no wonder you got me confused!
Not to worry, Primrose. I, too, was under the impression that “Shirley Yewgeste” was a woman. You’re not the only one was confused!
I wish parents had more consideration and stopped giving boys names like “Shirley”. This is bound to create widespread confusion. When I heard “Shirley” referring to his girlfriend as “a China girl”, I couldn’t help thinking that Shirley was a lesbian.
I didn’t mean to mislead you. The name isn’t supposed to be either male or female. It means “Surely, you jest”. I made it up after reading one too many ridiculous blogs and the comments that followed to register my disenchantment. That doesn’t mean I ONLY respond to the preposterous, though. In fact, I rarely do that.
So, what’s this thing you wrote? Gimme a link.
I don’t think I accused you of “misleading” me. I just pointed out that the name “Shirley” was a female name — to most people — and that anyone who uses it is bound to be mistaken as a woman. Sardonicus agreed with me.
This is the article I wrote:
http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/hither-was-not-a-jew-by-primrose-pryde/
Your article really caused a flap, but who is Hither? lol
Is it my imagination or did the wind go out of your sails when you found out I wasn’t a woman?
It’s your imagination. It doesn’t matter to me what sex you are. But it does matter to me when someone deceives me online about their sex — in your case, consciously and in a tongue-in-cheek way. It means I then clam up.
You expect people to go on being effusively friendly to you when you deceive them about your sex by deliberately using a female name?
You are a sad disappointment, “Shirley”. I thought you had depth. But you were playing silly games all along…
Goodbye!
Hi,
I believe homosexuality is a disorder, but on one point, I have an extremely hard time with this article.
Homosexual behavior can be between adults and thus consensual from that perspective. To write of the evolution toward acceptance of pedophilia without any mention of this contrast with homosexuality is just huge.
Consent from a 7 year old is a far cry from consent from an adult and many will never tolerate acceptance of pedophilia on the basis that it is a natural progression from homosexuality. For many, the consensual difference between the two is recognized and appreciated. I’ll bet there are folks out there who 1)approve of homosexuality and if they had the choice 2)would have a convicted pedophile fried or at least imprisoned for life.
Here is a case where silence speaks too loudly for my taste.
Tony
Just for the record; I don’t see how you could have mistaken me for a woman, even from the first post.
The point I wanted to make in that post is that it’s all a big psyop of the social engineers and introduces the legitimacy of something like thought crimes. First of all, it’s ubiquitously implied that men are pigs and dogs and that anything a man finds as sexy, he is very much obliged to fuck and will be working toward those ends. So, in the best interest of society, they have to take men down to the station and hook them up to the biometric sensors and flash pictures of tree stumps and then flash pictures of pretty girls and tree stumps and sexy girls and tree stumps and girls whose age isn’t so clear.
And they’ll have a picture of a proportionally leggy 10 year old girl, but make her look 6 feet tall with tricks of illusion and scale. She has the bright eyes, she has the skin, she has the blushy cheeks, she has the hair, she has the teeth. She would turn heads everywhere she went if she were 6 feet tall. But, that’s not the picture they will use to prove you’re a pervery. Oh no, they’ll wave around a picture of her with her nose coming up to the level of a 3 foot high handrail, true to scale and obviously the same girl, and say that’s the little girl that “turned you on”, when they don’t know if it turned you on or if you just admired her. And the policewomen will come in, using the ruse of making copies or whatever, and they’ll hiss and spit at what a big pervert you are. Girls aren’t tree stumps, so now you’re caught lying too. Here’s a news flash, bozos : Your lying was nothing but a token gesture of your obedience to Jezebel and pussy whipped, pussy beggar Ahab. Sorry, but I can’t feel sorry for you. You stepped forward and volunteered to be their bitch for whatever their purposes and were part and parcel to the whole socially engineered psyop. You knew there was nothing not to like about the young girls and everything to like and you treated them like shit to prove to your imagined tormentors that you’re no pedophile.
Denying their natural affections, they became as…. what they ARE. It started with their very unhealthy and unnatural disrespect for the young girls, which would include being so mystified by them, due to fear and avoidance and embarrassment for admiring what’s so naturally admirable, to think they’re something to fuck.
You people in this movement should stop congratulating yourselves all day on these blogs. You’ve been had more ways than you can count.
And you should write one about your 180 degree change of opinion when you found out I was a man. Who’s the misogynist here, Primrose?
“And you should write one about your 180 degree change of opinion when you found out I was a man.”
But I haven’t had a 180 degree change of opinion about you, “Shirley”. I was just thrown. Temporarily. (As you would have been if you’d suddenly found out I was a man pretending to be a woman).
I’ve got over it now. So relax. I certainly don’t hate you or think you’re a bad guy.
I do think however, from rereading your posts, that you show a certain dewy-eyed affection for exceptionally young girls. They turn you on by their beauty and innocence, don’t they? You’ve more or less confessed this. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with that, nor am I suggesting you’re an incipient pedophile.
Lewis Carroll also had this thing about little girls. He loved photographing them in the nude. Girls age 7-11. No one ever called him a “pedophile” in Victorian England, though I think it has been suggested in recent biographies that he must have had pedophile “tendencies”.
Personally, I feel these tendencies are very common in men, but I think they are generally suppressed.
Off topic
A short, short story
A group of Harley bikers were riding South on I-275 in Florida when they saw what appeared to be a girl about to jump off the Sunshine Skyway Bridge. So they stopped.
The leader, Randy, a big handsome hunk, dismounted from his bike, strode through the onlookers, past the Florida State Trooper, and asked, “What are you doing?”
The girl was stunning.
“I don’t want to live anymore,” she whispered, looking up at him with sad, sapphire blue eyes.
Not wanting to miss this opportunity, Randy slyly suggested ….”Well, before you jump, why don’t you give me a kiss?”
With no hesitation at all, she leaned toward him and gave him what he wanted. It was a long, deep, lingering kiss, followed immediately by another one. Randy felt himself melting. He was intoxicated with delight.
During the intimate moment, Randy had carefully and gently managed to grip both of her wrists with his incredibly strong hands. The crowd started applauding and cheering. He had rescued her, stopped her from jumping.
Randy let out a long sigh, feeling deep in his bones that destiny had at last intervened in his life. This was the moment he’d been waiting for . . . and now here she was . . . his dream girl!
“That’s the nicest kiss I’ve ever had,” Randy said huskily, with a catch in his breath. “It’s a whole beautiful life you were throwing away.” And then he added, shyly and with a certain tremulous hesitation: “Before I ask you to marry me, sweetheart, why do you want to die?”
She thought for a moment before answering.
“My parents don’t like me dressing up like a girl,” she said.
Are you playing games? First, you suggest that I like like little girls with a dewey eyed affection and then you speak as if it’s a foregone conclusion that they turn me on. I don’t need to see any naked little girls.
I’ve been talking about girls in their bloom and especially how there’s nothing perverted about a man seeing that sultry glow rising up in them. A guy doesn’t put his beer down on something so pristine as a highly polished black lacquer coffee table. It’s awe striking. Look, but don’t touch, it commands.