Was Hitler a Zionist Stooge? by John Friend

A rebuttal of the recent essay on this site entitled, Hitler was a Zionist Stooge.

Was Hitler a Zionist Stooge?
By John Friend

Perhaps no other political figure and period of history is as misunderstood as Adolf Hitler and his rise to power and reign as the Führer of National Socialist Germany.  Confused and oftentimes disingenuous conspiracy historians and alternative media personalities present a wide variety ofinterpretations of Adolf Hitler and National Socialist Germany, with many claiming Hitler was some sort of secret “Rothschild operative” collaborating with the Jewish international bankers as an agent of Zionist interests in the Middle East, as J. Speer Williams has recently argued.  These alternative “conspiracy industry”-type theories are as absurd and baseless as the mainstream version of Adolf Hitler and National Socialist Germany as the embodiment of evil, hell bent on conquering first Europe, then the world, exterminating all Jews, gypsies, and other scapegoated and “persecuted” groups in the process.Williams begins his recent essay Hitler was a Zionist Stooge this way:

The International Zionists are led by a dark force with an intelligent mentality, but which is totally bereft of compassion, empathy, or basic wisdom.But since such an intellect is unfathomable to most human minds, I know of no one who can give us all the reasons for Zionism bringing Adolf Hitler to power and then financing the German Nazi war machine. But the fact that it was done is clearly provable.The financing of Hitler and his war powers was largely handled by the old Max/Paul Warburg controlled Mendelsohn Bank of Amsterdam (all Zionists) and the Schroeder Bank of Frankfort, London, and New York (all Zionists).

While Williams makes a good point about the nature of international Zionism as representing a “dark force” that is “totally bereft of compassion, empathy, or basic wisdom”, his sophomoric and simplistic contention, without citing any source material or documentation, that a combination of “Zionist” controlled banks in Amsterdam, London, Frankfort, and New York financed Hitler and “his war powers” (whatever that means) is without merit. Williams attempts to convince his readers that Zionist funding of Hitler and the “Nazi war machine” is “clearly provable”, yet provides no evidence whatsoever for his claims.  He simply declares it so, and expects everyone to unquestionably follow along. Serious scholars, journalists, and writers provide documentation – using reliable primary and secondary sources – to substantiate their claims.  Obviously, J. Speer Williams is not a serious scholar, journalist, or writer.

Hitler and the NSDAP were not, I repeat, were not funded by Jewish or even pro-Zionist sources. They were not “Rothschild agents” or “puppets of the bankers” or “stooges for the Zionists”. They were diametrically opposed to the Jewish supremacist goal of a “New World Order”, which is essentially Jewish domination and subjugation of the entire globe – politically, economically, and culturally – a Jewish Utopia so to speak. Hitler and the National Socialist political movement not only spoke openly and honestly about important subjects, clearly identifying the enemy of all humanity – international Jewry – they made serious moves against this destructive, parasitic network of criminals that had wrecked their country and sought to destroy their people. Hitler and National Socialism were the anti-thesis to Jewish Communism and Jewish plutocratic capitalism, two destructive ideologies Adolf Hitler and the NSDAP clearly recognized as Jewish-inspired philosophies which result in the total destruction of every nation they are practiced in.

Indeed, Adolf Hitler and the National Socialist movement represented the greatest obstacle that has ever manifested against the parasitic, subversive, and destructive nature of the international Jewish criminal cabal largely controlling the West, pushing for their “New World Order” on every front imaginable.

As Veronica Clark explains in her must read article titled Demystification of the Birth and Funding of the NSDAP, Hitler sought to overcome the class antagonism prevalent throughout Germany (and much of Europe) by establishing a political and social order based on merit, rather than class or wealth, and sought to unify German society around their common German heritage and Aryan race.  Funding for the NSDAP came from a variety of sources, including membership fees, speaking engagements, newspaper sales, financial contributions from nationalist-minded small businesses and industrialists, and even elements of the upper classes in German society who recognized the threat of Jewish Marxist communism and wanted to see a revitalized, economically and culturally strong Germany once again.

Theodore Abel’s 1938 book, Why Hitler Came Into Power is perhaps the most important, and yet unknown, book exploring the rise of the National Socialist German Worker’s Party and Adolf Hitler. In early 1934, Abel travelled to Germany after convincing the National Socialist government that had recently come to power that Americans, and the world generally, knew far too little about the National Socialist movement, its ideology, its history and rise to power, and its followers. Abel, working under the auspices of Columbia University, proposed an autobiographical essay contest, in which any member or sympathizer of the NSDAP who had joined prior to the party solidifying its political power over the German state in 1933 could submit an essay explaining his or her background, education, experience, and political affiliations for review.

Abel eventually received 683 manuscripts from a wide variety of National Socialist party members and sympathizers, which he breaks down into age distribution, occupation, class affiliation, and date of joining the NSDAP. Statistical charts and other identifying data are broken down for further analysis as an Appendix. Abel notes that 83 manuscripts were eliminated from consideration, either because they were too short in length and lacking in any detail, or because they were submitted by women, whose entries were used for a separate study published independently of Why Hitler Came Into Power. These manuscripts form the basis for Abel’s work, and numerous excerpts are provided throughout the first two parts of the book from members of the NSDAP themselves, offering readers a unique insight into what motivated and inspired these individuals to join the party and embark on what turned out to be a life long struggle.

In 1986, Why Hitler Came Into Power was re-published with a Foreword written by Thomas Childers, who made some profound observations about Abel’s original and unique research into the NSDAP and the rise of Adolf Hitler in Germany. Childers wrote in part:

Abel’s material simply did not fit neatly into the dominate interpretation of National Socialism as a “revolt of the lower middle class.” […]

Abel was struck by the wide variety of motivational factors at work among the respondents, many of which could not be easily subsumed under the interpretive rubric of “lower-middle-class revolt.” […]

These studies have allowed us to identify the social bases of the Nazi following with far greater precision than was ever before possible. Although thematic emphasis and methods differ, these works are in fundamental agreement that support for the NSDAP extended far beyond the lower middle class to elements of the socially established Grossbürgertum (upper middle class) as well as to sizable segments of the blue-collar working class. […]

What attracted members of the upper middle class to the party? Why did many workers turn to the NSDAP? What had drawn them? What role did the NSDAP’s ideological positions play in its popular appeal? How important were Nazi propaganda tactics and organization? These are obviously important questions for any study seeking to explain the sociopolitical dynamics of Nazi success, and it is precisely this set of central issues that Theodore Abel’s work addresses. […]

Abel’s book is comprised of three distinct parts. Part One deals with the history of the NSDAP, with chapters titled The Background of the Hitler MovementThe First Period: 1919 – 1923The Second Period: 1924 – 1929, and The Third Period: 1930 – 1933, which offer unique insights into the struggles, obstacles, and hardships endured by the NSDAP, and its eventual rise in German politics.

Part Two is analytical in nature, and explains how and why the NSDAP movement gained support. What attracted people to National Socialism? What factors lead to the rise and eventual triumph of the NSDAP in German politics? These and other related questions are addressed in these pages, and help clarify the financing and nature of the National Socialist German Workers Party, as well as its popularity and ability to largely unite all segments of the German nation. Abel breaks Part Two into three chapters: Discontent As a FactorIdeology As a Factor, and The Why of the Hitler Movement.

Finally, Part Three of the book is comprised of six selected autobiographies of the NSDAP members, published in full. Abel publishes the life stories of a worker, an anti-Semite, a soldier, a middle-class youth, a bank clerk, and a farmer – all chosen “to show, in unified, more realistic form, patterns of National Socialist experience separately analyzed in previous chapters.”  These selected manuscripts demonstrate the widespread appeal of National Socialism, which united German nationalists and patriots from all backgrounds, social classes, and education levels. Farmers, merchants, soldiers, veterans, teachers, industrial workers, bureaucrats, professionals, managers, fathers, mothers, children – National Socialism appealed to and sought to unify all segments of the German populace, and was largely successful in doing so, especially once firmly in control of the German state.

By relying on primary source material – authentic autobiographies of NSDAP members and sympathizers – Abel offers historians and other interested parties a unique analysis of the rise of Adolf Hitler and the NSDAP not found elsewhere.

Just to further discredit this idea that Hitler and the NSDAP were funded by “the Jews”, consider the following excerpt of the legendary Michael Collins Piper’s must read book, The New Babylon: Those Who Reign Supreme – A Panoramic Overview of the Historical, Religious and Economic Origins of the New World Order:

There is also the legend that “The Jewish bankers” or “The Zionist bankers” (used often interchangeably) financed Hitler. Not true. James Pool, in his authoritative work, Who Financed Hitler?, demonstrates quite to the contrary.

In one instance, a Jewish financier in Germany did give money to the Nazi Party–prior to the rise of Adolf Hitler–but those funds were designed to help Hitler’s intra-party opposition to stop Hitler. But despite this fact, some “patriots” still say that “The Jews Backed Hitler.”

Many of those who worship at the altar of this nonsense cite a flagrantly-fraudulent document of shadowy origins entitled Hitler’s Secret Bankers, ostensibly written by one “Sidney Warburg,” one of those “Jewish bankers.” But this document, as we’ve said, is a fraud.

The late Dr. Anthony Sutton’s Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler has promoted this theory, based in part on the Warburg travesty and has given further institutionalization to this mythology–truth be damned.

American banks and corporations did work with the Hitler regime, usually a continuation of previous financial arrangements going back decades, but this was not part of any grand conspiracy to bring Hitler to power. The claim that the Bush family was integral to the rise of Hitler is another myth. Kevin Phillips–no admirer of the Bush dynasty–examines the actual circumstances surrounding the Bush-Hitler scenario in his book, American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush and puts the facts in proper perspective.

Some even go so far as to claim Hitler was in fact Jewish.  This slanderous conspiracy theory has been debunked by serious researchers and even mainstream, establishment academics, such as the British historian Ian Kershaw who wrote a bestselling biography of Adolf Hitler titled, Hitler: 1889-1936 Hubris.  In the very first chapter Fantasy and Failure, Kershaw thoroughly debunks the false rumor that Hitler himself may have had Jewish ancestry (pg. 7-9):

… [Allegedly] Adolf Hitler’s grandfather was Jewish. Rumours to that effect circulated in Munich cafes in the early 1920s, and were fostered by sensationalist journalism of the foreign press during the 1930s. It was suggested that the name ‘Huttler’ was Jewish, ‘revealed’ that he could be traced to a Jewish family called Hitler in Bucharest, and even claimed that his father had been sired by Baron Rothschild, in whose house in Vienna his grandmother had allegedly spent some time as a servant. But the most serious speculation about Hitler’s supposed Jewish background has occurred since the Second World War, and is directly traceable to the memoirs of the leading Nazi lawyer Governor General of Poland, Hans Frank, dictated in his Nuremberg cell while awaiting hangman. Frank claimed that he had been called in by Hitler towards the end of 1930 and shown a letter from his nephew William Patrick Hitler (the son of his half-brother Alois, who had been briefly married to an Irish woman) threatening, in connection with the press stories circulating about Hitler’s background, to expose the fact that Hitler had Jewish blood flowing in his veins. […]Frank’s story gained wide circulation in the 1950s. But it simply does not stand up.[…] Hans Frank’s memoirs, dictated at a time when he was waiting for the hangman and plainly undergoing psychological crisis, are full of inaccuracies and have to be used with caution. With regard to the story of Hitler’s alleged Jewish grandfather, they are valueless.

Back to Williams’ piece, Hitler was a Zionist Stooge.  After claiming that international Jewish bankers in London, Amsterdam, Frankfort and New York financed Hitler and “his war powers” without citing a single source or elaborating on the details of this alleged funding, he goes on to claim that the German chemical giant I.G. Farben was under Zionist control, also implying that this industrial conglomerate was working directly with the Hitler government.  Williams mentions that I.G. Farben produced Zyklon B gas used in “Nazi concentration camps” without mentioning that Zyklon B was actually used for health and sanitary reasons, not in some evil plan to systematically murder the Jews and others detained by the German government.  Of course, there are no citations to demonstrate the I.G. Farben was indeed under Zionist control or working with the National Socialist government in any nefarious way.

Williams then makes claims I’ve heard before and read on the internet, almost always without a reliable source to back them up — that the Allies deliberately avoided bombing I.G. Farben industrial facilities located in Germany and German-occupied territories. From the article:

During the massive fire bombing of almost all of Germany and many of its innocent citizens, the Farben facilities were carefully spared. One used to be able to go onto the Internet and see aerial photographs of the I.G. Farben plants left whole, while everything else around them had been bombed into ruins.

Again, no citation to back up these contentions.  A simple search on Wikipedia for I.G. Farben has this to say:

Facilities during World War II 

IG Farben facilities were bombing targets of the Oil Campaign of World War II, and up to 1941, there were 5 Nazi Germany Buna plants that produced Buna N by the Lebedev process.

Dwory

The Buna Chemical Plant at Dwory was under construction by 1943, after a March 2, 1942 contract with “IG Farbenindustrie AG Auschwitz.” The Buna Werke plant, which produced synthetic oil and rubber (from coal), was the beginning of SS activity and camps near Auschwitz III-Monowitz during the Holocaust. At its peak in 1944, this factory made use of 83,000 slave laborers. Today, the plant operates as “Dwory S.A.”

Frankfurt

In addition to the “cavernous” IG Farben building at Frankfurt, a Hoechst AG chemical factory in Frankfurt was bombed by the RAF on September 26, 1944.

Where does Williams, and those who continue to make these claims about I.G. Farben, get their information?  Inquiring minds would like to know.  What sources document that I.G. Farben was controlled by “Zionist bankers” working with Hitler, and that its industrial facilities were spared from Allied firebombing campaigns?

If Hitler and the NSDAP were “Zionist stooges”, why on earth did they do things like this or this or this? Why did they make movies like The Eternal Jew, exposing the enemies of the German race to their fellow kinsmen? Consider Adolf Hitler’s political testament he dictated shortly before he committed suicide in Berlin in April 1945. Does this man sound like a “Zionist stooge” to you?

More than thirty years have passed since 1914 when I made my modest contribution as a volunteer in the First World War, which was forced upon the Reich.In these three decades love and loyalty to my people have guided all my thoughts, actions and my life. They gave me the strength to make the most difficult decisions ever to confront mortal man. In these three decades I have spent my strength and my health. It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was wanted and provoked solely by international statesmen either of Jewish origin or working for Jewish interests. I have made too many offers for the limitation and control of armaments, which posterity will not be cowardly enough always to disregard, for responsibility for the outbreak of this war to be placed on me. Nor have I ever wished that, after the appalling First World War, there would ever be a second against either England or America. Centuries will go by, but from the ruins of our towns and monuments the hatred of those ultimately responsible will always grow anew against the people whom we have to thank for all this: international Jewry and its henchmen. […]

If Hitler was somehow “in cahoots with the Jews”, why did he say things like this all throughout Mein Kampf and in the various speeches he gave?

The Jews have not the ability which is necessary for the founding of a civilization, for in them there is not, and never has been, that spirit of idealism which is an absolutely necessary element in the higher development of mankind. Therefore, the Jewish intellect will never be constructive, but always destructive. (Chapter XI, pg. 209)

Another claim often made by individuals in Williams’ camp is that somehow Adolf Hitler is the “founder of Israel”, which is an absurd and extremely ignorant claim for a variety of reasons.

It was Britain, through the Balfour Declaration, addressed to none other than Lord Rothschild himself, that initially facilitated the establishment of the illegitimate terrorist state of “Israel”, not Germany. Germany never supported or wanted a Jewish state in Palestine. Hitler and NSDAP policy were primarily concerned with getting the Jews out of Germany (and eventually all of Europe), and did in fact collaborate with Zionist organizations and factions that promoted Jewish emigration to Palestine and the West. They even entered into economic agreements with these organizations to not only facilitate the emigration of Jews from Germany, but also bolster Germans exports. Some German Jews ended up moving to Palestine, many more went to London, Paris, New York, and Hollywood, where with their fellow Jews already in the West they would begin their genetically inspired systematic assault on and subversion of Western culture.

Mark Weber of the Institute for Historical Review lays this out quite clearly in an article titledZionism and the Third Reich:

[…] German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful Jewish communities in the United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize “their” governments and fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained implacably hostile toward National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the Zionist “promised land,” a sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really “solve” the international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign. German backing for Zionism was therefore limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British control, not a sovereign Jewish state.

A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats in June 1937, would not be in Germany’s interest because it would not be able to absorb all Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as a base for international Communism. Reflecting something of a shift in official policy, the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when tension and conflict between Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing.

A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, “it would nevertheless be a mistake to assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the anti-German agitation of international Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the world.” “The proclamation of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine,” warned an internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, “would create for Germany a new enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the Near East.” Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state “would work to bring special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry.” In January 1939, Hitler’s new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned in another circular bulletin that “Germany must regard the formation of a Jewish state as dangerous” because it “would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry.”

Hitler and the NSDAP did not advocate for or support an independent Jewish state in Palestine. In fact, in Mein Kampf Hitler accurately described what a Jewish state would look like should the Gentile world allow it to happen:

The Jew’s domination in the state seems so assured that now not only can he call himself a Jew again, but he ruthlessly admits his ultimate national and political designs. A section of his race openly owns itself to be a foreign people, yet even here they lie. For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim. It doesn’t even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.

Bottom line is, the Jews were dead set on establishing their criminal, usurping state in Palestine, not only to fulfill their twisted messianic prophecies, but also to gain a safe haven and central headquarters for their global crime syndicate, a fact Hitler recognized. He wanted the Jews out of Germany in order to rebuild German society after the devastation of WWI, correctly recognizing the subversive and destructive nature innate to the Jewish race. The Jews in Palestine perfected their use of terrorism and underhandedness and declared “independence” shortly after Germany’s defeat in WWII, using their fake “Holocaust” story and agents of influence across the globe to sell their false narrative of history to the rest of the world. And who were the first governments to recognize the illegitimate, terrorist state of “Israel”? Two of the countries most responsible for the genocidal annihilation of Hitler’s Germany, which was resisting the forces of international Jewry, not collaborating with them: the United States and Soviet Union.

On May 14, 1948, the leaders of the Jewish organizations in Palestine, headed by David Ben-Gurion,proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel, to take effect at midnight that night.

At that point, the State of Israel came into existence. The United States recognized the provisional Jewish government as de facto authority of the Jewish state within minutesThe Soviet Union granted de jure recognition almost immediately in 1948 along with seven other states within the next five days (Guatemala, Byelorussia, the Ukraine, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Uruguay, and Yugoslavia). [Source]

Hitler and National Socialist Germany’s ultimate aim was the removal of the Jews from Germany and Europe, and they collaborated with the Zionist movement to accomplish this goal. After the Jews and their puppet Allies brutally destroyed Germany in WWII, which represented the greatest threat in recent history to the global Jewish crime network behind “The New World Order”, it was only a matter of time before “Israel” would be officially established.

Hitler was not “the founder of Israel” and in no way supported the establishment of an independent Jewish state in Palestine as many continue to claim. Hitler and National Socialist Germany were destroyed to pave the way for the establishment of Israel. Blaming Hitler and National Socialist Germany for something the Jews were determined to do on their own – with the assistance of their puppets in the West – is a gross distortion of history.

To conclude his ridiculous and unscholarly essay Hitler was a Zionist Stooge, J. Speer Williams claims that there are “deeper reasons” underlying why the Zionists brought Hitler to power, and that ultimately the end goal of the Zionist conspiracy is to “mutate and ultimately exterminate” the Semitic gene, which according to Williams included both Jews and Arabs.  In the very next sentence, however, Williams admits that he can’t even prove his point:

But, again, I cannot prove any of that, except for the fact of depleting uranium being used in the Zionist Middle Eastern wars of US/Israeli aggression.

The only thing that can be demonstrably proven is that J. Speer Williams simply does not know what he is talking about, and is perpetuating myths and slanders about Adolf Hitler and National Socialist Germany, albeit of a different nature than the lies endlessly promoted by the mainstream mass media and educational establishment.  J. Speer Williams and other disingenuous and ignorant individuals confusing the public with ridiculous and baseless theories that “Hitler was a Zionist stooge” are essentially doing the bidding of the Jews who have demonized and distorted the actions, legacy, and worldview of Adolf Hitler and National Socialism for so long.  Please do not take these people seriously.

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133 thoughts on “Was Hitler a Zionist Stooge? by John Friend

  1. Brilliant! This is a stunning rebuttal of the piece by Speer Williams! John Friend, leave your telephone number and/email address here if you wish to learn more about the tribe of Israel. If you are anti-Semitic, however, you may not wish to do that, given that my name is “Ruth Bernstein.”

    1. So change your name then, if you think the piece is brilliant and you want him to learn more about the “tribe”.

  2. A rebuttal ……to a rebuttal ……to a rebuttal…… to yet another rebuttal ……..

    All the rebuttals in the world can’t change the 1945 US War Dept Report to the US Congress concerning the fact Shitler NEVER investigated who owned/who financed IG Farben — the jew-owned & jew-financed mega-corporation — that put Shitler in power in the Very First Place.

    A rebuttal …. to a rebuttal ….. to a rebuttal …..

    A mighty flame follows a tiny spark* :

    The 1945 US War Dept Report to the US Congress concerning Shitler’s ties to IG Farben : the jew -owned and jew -financed mega-corporation [ and partly financed by Monsanto, DuPont, and Rockefeller’s Standard Oil ] :

    http://www.profit-over-life.org/books/books.php?book=30&pageID=13&expand=no&addPage=0

    * Dante

    1. So jew joe is essentially telling us that an unknown company financed money to the National Socialist Party for a holoco$t that never occurred? ROFLMAO!

  3. Maybe J Speer Williams, “Joe”, Anthony C. Hutton [ Wall St and the Rise of Hitler], Mark Rigg [ Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers], the 1945 US War Dept military brass, and the 1945 US Congress* representatives are one and the same person?

    * The 1945 US War Dept. Report concerning IG Farben + Shitler was entered into the 1945 Congressional Records and can be researched also at the Library of the US Congress : ” The Library of Congress “.

  4. Seems to me the most “anti-semitic” people ever were the nazi jews [ really ” zionist” : as the jews in the nazi party were manifesting the talmud’s “religious holocaust narrative” ]

    poor poor alex linder….. the jews “holocausted” themselves before linder could get at them … poor poor linder…. how frustrated he must be to learn the nazi party was chock full of jews top-to-bottom…… and the jew nazis beat-him-to-the-punch…. how humiliating it must be for linder.

    I hope deNugent uses some of the donation $$$ he recieves on some valium and/or prozac — now that we ALL know there were shitloads of jews in the nazi party/military — deNugent must be a total mess to find out the nazi/zionist jews were the ones who threw the other jews in the camps in the very first place …… and not Hyperborean Aryan avatar-god -men whom he adores to kibbles-and-bits…….. poor hyperborean
    poor poor de nugent…. he must be suffering very severe cognitive dissonance by now…..

    Considering it was jews in the nazi party who threw other jews in the camps, maybe the Hyperborean deNugent can extend a hand of solidarity to the zionist/nazi jews in izzysmell , and spend some of his donation $$$ to ship “care” packages of valium and prozac to izzysmell, to help the izzysmell jews deal with the cognitive dissonance of it all….

    1. you exhibit all the attributes of an incredibly small mind,
      and an hasbara troll…

      http://www.israelect.com/reference/Willie-Martin/

      sometimes one can observe a man’s enemies ….

      http://www.birobidjan.co.uk/

      where does Bad Faith oooze from if not the Anti-Christ religion called

      http://www.jewishindc.com/events/yom-hashoah-2013-april-7-2013.html

      TALMUDIC JUDAISM…..?

      http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/encyclopedia_freemasonry.html
      {see footnote to… CAPTIVITY} …
      John 8:44

      good piece John, now read – IN SEARCH OF ISAACS CHILDREN…..

      http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/03/05/gaslighting/

      and axe yo’self…in Hosea 1:11 – where are the “Jews” ?

      No Talmud…No Jew !!

  5. As Christianity wanes and is exposed as another Jewish hoax, Hitler becomes more and more relevant. Hitler real intentions and words are now argued and cross examined just the same as Jesus story.

    Hitler was a real person, Christ is probably not since it can be shown that the attributes of Christ are plagiarized from other myth. Hitler sacrificed all for his people and principles, Christ was invented so the Romans and Jews could work over the gentle peoples.

    Hitler is probably the greatest man thus far in Western civilization, Hitler tried to rescue Europe from the clutches of Jewish treachery. Jesus is the greatest man who never existed, with Christ the gentle peoples were put under a 2,000 year black magic Jewish spell, with Jesus the ‘goy’ assisted the Jews in the rape and plunder of the world.

    The fact that no god is coming to our rescue, that we are in deep shit with the Jews in control is starting to set in, we can feel it in our gut. We are now the target, America is now a greater Palestine. Now its time to examine everything Hitler did and said because our very lives depend on it.

    What we should NOT do is respin the Bible myths and try to be the new Jews, we need to be the new humans who take control of their destiny and remove the Jewish psychopaths and their Christian helpers from power. We must remove the Jew book from our minds and reclaim our real selves.

    1. BOTH Jesus and Hitler were overwhelmed by them. Let’s not get too caught up in this “Jesus was an invention who never existed” nonsense.

      Jesus was exposing them and knew what they were just like Hitler knew. Both sounded the alarm and it’s effect didn’t hold – not yet anyway.

      What do you think throwing the moneychangers out of the temple was all about? Or his disgust and utter sorrow prompted by the stench of filthy jews slaughtering and feasting on gentle baby lambs? And Hitler too was a vegetarian who even made it a crime in Germany to put live lobsters in pots of boiling water.

      Jesus was killed, he knew it was coming, but needed to have it end this way so the World would see what was done to a man whose only message was love – that and identifying those who cannot love.

      Hitler too knew who they are and tried to destroy them through the might of an incredible fighting machine. He chose to kill himself because he knew, and said so, that they wouldn’t put him to death right away but instead put him in a cage to become the object of the greatest enmity imaginable.

      1. @ Brownhawk

        Would it be too much to ask for some source references for your claims? Nothing wrong with opinion — in and of itself — Still, opinion backed up with some solid soure references is always preferable.

      2. Sorry Joe. Not biting on that one.

        Your credibility has taken a serious hit here. But if someone else were to ask me this question it would be a different story.

        If no one does, what would that tell you?

      3. @ Brownhawk

        In other words, it’s my fault you’re not going to provide the readers with source references to back up your opinions. Laughing online.

      4. @ Brownhawk
        With all due respect, we cannot truly confirm that Hitler committed suicide because his body was taken by jewish Bolsheviks.

      5. OK Sazzy.

        But it would have to mean that something or someone interupted what would have been the right timing on his part to do so

        Stay tuned on that one, like so much else needing to come to light

    2. @ Phishna, here is proof that Christ did indeed exist.

      Did Christ Exist?

      Cornelius Tacitus (ca. 56-120) was a Roman senator, consul and governor of the Roman province of Anatolia (covering most of modern-day Turkey) as well as one of ancient Rome’s greatest historians. Late in his life he wrote a 16-volume history of the Roman emperors, the Annals.

      No friend to either Nero or Christians, Tacitus writes that Nero blamed “a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace.” He goes on to explain that “Christus [Christ], from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty [crucifixion] during the reign of Tiberius at the hand of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome …” ( Annals, 15:44, quoted by Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ, 1998, p. 82).

      A contemporary of Tacitus, Caius Suetonius Tranquillus (ca. 69-140), overseer of Rome’s libraries and court official to several emperors, writes that the emperor Claudius “banished the Jews from Rome, who were continually making disturbances, Chrestus [Christ] being their leader” ( Lives of the First Twelve Caesars: Life of Claudius, quoted by Grant Jeffrey, Jesus: The Great Debate, 1999, p. 163). This banishment of Jews from Rome is mentioned in Acts 18:2
      .

      Also, “Pliny the younger, the Roman legate of Bithynia-Pontus (what is now north-central Turkey) in the early second century, wrote to the emperor Trajan, requesting advice on how to deal with Christians who refused to reverence Caesar’s image. Pliny noted that these Christians met regularly and sang hymns ‘to Christ as if to a god’ ( Letters 10:96.7). The phrase ‘as if to a God’ suggests that Pliny knew Jesus had been a person who had lived on earth but was reluctant to call him divine” (Craig Blomberg, The Historical Reliability of the Gospels, 1987, p. 196).

      From these historical sources, none connected in any way with the Bible, we see references to these facts:

      • A group called “Christians” derived its name from “Christus” (Christ).

      • This “Christus” was executed during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of Pontius Pilate (Tiberius reigned A.D. 14-37; Pilate held office from 26 to 36 or 37).

      • This new movement involved “a most mischievous superstition,” quite possibly a reference to Christians’ belief that Jesus rose from the dead after His crucifixion.

      • This new movement begun by Christians began in Judea and spread to Rome.

      • Early Christians considered Christ to be a divine Being.

      Testimony from Josephus

      Flavius Josephus, a prominent Jewish historian of the first century, is well known to historians and scholars. Born into a priestly family in A.D. 37, Josephus was well educated and commanded a Jewish detachment in Galilee during the Jewish revolt of 66-70 until his capture by the Romans. At the end of the war he went to Rome with the Roman general Titus, where he lived and wrote until his death about A.D. 100.

      Josephus twice mentions Jesus in his monumental work Antiquities of the Jews, written A.D. 90-95. His most extensive quote reads:

      “Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works,—a teacher of such men as received the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day” ( Antiquities, Book 18, chapter 3, section 3).

      While many scholars dispute parts or all of the passage, it is quoted as above by the historian Eusebius as early as 315.

      A second mention of Jesus by Josephus is seldom disputed by scholars. It concerns the martyrdom of James, His half brother: “Festus was now dead, and Albinus was but upon the road; so he assembled the sanhedrin of the judges, and brought before them the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James, and some others [or some of his companions;] and when he had formed an accusation against them as breakers of the law, he delivered them to be stoned …” ( Antiquities, 20:9:1).

      Another prominent figure from the Gospels mentioned by Josephus is John the Baptizer: “Herod, who feared lest the great influence John had over the people might put it into his power and inclination to raise a rebellion,…thought it best, by putting him to death, to prevent any mischief he might cause…Accordingly he was sent a prisoner, out of Herod’s suspicious temper, to Macherus,…and was there put to death” ( Antiquities, 18:5:2).

      Although Josephus was never a Christian, in his works we find mention of many other figures from the Gospels and other New Testament books. These include the family of the Herods; the Judean procurators and members of the high priestly families. His books, like the writings of the Roman historians and officials, provide powerful independent corroboration of the historical accuracy of the Gospels and the existence of Jesus Christ.

      1. Thanks Sazzy, for your invaluable research.

        I knew my hunch was probably right, that you were reloading while waiting for the Joe shitstorm to subside.

        Now this site can get back on track – that is, if John Sholtes decides to bring something to the table or bow out gracefully (if that’s even possible)

      2. Christians are famous for changing historical documents in order to prove their myth as real, after all the entire power structure depends on some sort of proof, even if it is fabricated.

        For instance the last book of the New Testament, a prophecy of the future, Revelation, was written after the fact. Rather devious wouldn’t you say?

        http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/revelation/white.html

        In order for Old Testament prophecy to come true a savior was invented who fulfilled prophecy. So Christians apologists love to say Jesus fulfilled the OT prophecy when in fact the Jesus character was invented so that he did. This is more than a little bit disingenuous.

        Then there is the claim that Josephus or Tacitus mentioned Jesus.

        http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/josephus-etal.html

        http://www.truthbeknown.com/pliny.htm

        Even the Jewish people were invented,

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invention_of_the_Jewish_People

        and there was never a Jewish kingdom that produced any pottery or art because the stories of the Jewish exodus and kingdoms are fiction. The state of Israel looked and looked, it hunted and hunted, it dug and dug and never found its kings. And it gets even better, the so-called “Jews” occupying the so-called “holy land” aren’t even Jewish. Jeff Rense discusses this with Texe Marrs:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXG7Y-_RfPU

        It is so clear that western peoples know nothing of their own heritage but know everything about fictional Bible history which are plagiarized stories with Jewish characters inserted so the gentiles slavishly worship the self chosen ones.

        Think about that for awhile, Christianity is a program for gentiles to forget everything about their own past and be indoctrinated in everything Jewish, which in itself is all lies.

        A Christian is a brainwashed memebot (memetic robot) existing in a matrix of Jewish lies, praying to a Jewish deity that doesn’t exist, awaiting the return of a god who never was. LOL

      3. Christ is a fictional god character created by gospel writers.

        Jesus is probably also fictional since we have no reliable eyewitness accounts of him, Christianity is Paul’s religion and he never met the man.

        Paul was a Jew, Jews are liars. Paul says god held him down on the road to Damascus. Do you believe that claim?

        A Jew liar named Paul wrote a tale about Jesus.

      4. I posted several times a long measured response fully cited but it never was posted, I will try again.

        Definition of AD HOMINEM

        1: appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect

        2: marked by or being an attack on an opponent’s character rather than by an answer to the contentions made

      5. Your strong beliefs are admirable and I admire your energy and quick wit. I believe you are on the verge of becoming fully enlightened and become a modern Joan of Arc leading people out of the bondage of religious servitude.

        I believe that you can be turned toward reason and away from your faith ( a state of mental possession caused by indoctrination into a religious memetic complex).

        Once you start to see that you’ve been duped by the priest I pity the fool that gets in your way,
        hell hath no fury like a woman like you who learns they’ve been duped by the memes.

      6. @Phisna

        Hitler acknowledged those reliable sources proving the existence of Christ, and it served as a powerful foundation for rebuilding the German nation to the point where they had the beast trembling in its cloven hooves before succumbing to a treachery which took all the might the infiltrated U.S. and a resuscitated Soviet Union could muster. (And I’m still trying to figure out what happened during the Russian campaign)

        It would be difficult to imagine that this would have occured if a fictional Christ were to have served as its impetus.

        There’s something truly substantial about it all that you’re just not getting.

      7. What do scholars tell about the historical Christ?

        “Jesus is a mythical figure in the tradition of pagan mythology and almost nothing in all of ancient literature would lead one to believe otherwise. Anyone wanting to believe Jesus lived and walked as a real live human being must do so despite the evidence, not because of it.”
        –C. Dennis McKinsey, The Encyclopedia of Biblical Errancy

        “There is not a conception associated with Christ that is not common to some or all of the Savior cults of antiquity.”
        –JM Robertson, Pagan Christs

        “The gospel story is an artificial, non-historical work. It has been fabricated from source materials that can be identified and traced to their incorporation into the gospels. There is not a particle of hard evidence that ‘Jesus of Nazareth’ ever existed.
        –Harold Leidner, The Fabrication of the Christ Myth

      8. None of the gospel writers met Christ because he was invented in their minds.

        If you will stop name calling you might be enlightened, when the writer says “the word made flesh” they are speaking in code, making Jesus their literary fiction into a real person.

        You’ve been duped Miss Smarty Pants and my words have got your panties all in a twist. LOL

        Let the truth be known! Jesus never existed and is not coming back because he never was.

      9. You’re not as smart as you think, Phishna, for the simple reason that every statement you make is backed by no evidence whatsoever. You remind me of the man who once announced confidently at a dinner party, “It’s obvious that Mars is populated by green lions.”

      10. @ Phishna

        I have news for you. I have written to the editor complaining that every single thread on this forum is now being hijacked by the Christ bashers — by trolls like yourself who are obviously following a Jewish agenda. No matter what the thread is about, the topic of Christ and his putative non-existence is dragged in and made the central object of discussion.

        This amounts to website sabotage, I explained to the editor. He agreed with me. He is soon going to change his monitoring policies to exclude saboteurs like yourself with only one ax to grind.

        When the topic is Israel, it is Israel we want to discuss. It is not the non-existence of Christ. Not in every single thread, again and again, like a broken record.

        Prepare for your imminent expulsion.

      11. @Sardonicus

        It is you Sardonicus that hasn’t added anything to this conversation, all you do is belittle any comments that you happen to not like. You are obviously a religious control freak.

      12. leidner sure sounds chosen, doesn’t he.

        and what to expect from a book titled Encyclopedia of Biblical ERRANCY.
        it is not like they said, ok, let’s examine the evidence and pronounce a verdict, the verdict was in before the first word of the foreword was written.
        or just like the trial of jesus, if we are at it … and there is a pagan precedent for that too?

        sure there is no physical evidence of jesus.
        nor buddha, alexander the great, cleopatra, nor anyone whose tomb was never found with dna evidence in it.

        all of the billions of hindus and buddhists that were cremated at the funeral pyre are beyond physical proof, so what, they never existed?

        if you insist, i will point you though to the shroud of turin whose veracity has never been disproved despite the best efforts of not just the jews and their cohorts but also the vatican (they are trying their utmost to prove it is a fake, because to them, jesus is a cash register and nothing else, in fact they are almost as scared of him as the jews are).
        hit some scholarly journals like the biblical archaeology review and referenced literature and find out how hard this piece has been looked at by everyone in a multidisciplinary environment, archaeologists, anatomists, nasa scientists, radiologists, microbiologists, materials engineers, botanists, arts historians, experts on pollen, textile weave, carbon dating (quite an interesting controversy there), many of the scientists were/are jews and israelis, yet they were never able to pin a label of fraud on it.
        every time something seemed fishy, someone else pointed out the error in research methods.

        if only holocaust had come under 1% of the officially sanctioned scrutiny that the shroud did, all the h-c jewseums would have faced the wrecker’s ball long ago.

  6. @ Phishna

    “Christianity is exposed as just another Jewish hoax . . . Jesus is the greatest man who never existed…”

    Easy enough to say, Phishna, but hard to prove.

    All you can do to support this claim is various documents you have read on the internet, and indeed one or two books by Zionist agents and others with axes to grind, and these sources you have read have convinced you that Christ never existed and that Christianity is a “Jewish hoax”.

    Follow the same logic, Phishna, and you will arrive at the unassailable conclusion:

    (a) that the Holocaust took place exactly as stated by the Holocaust Lobby, i.e., that 6 million Jews died in gas ovens on the express orders of Hitler; and

    (b) that 9/11 was an Al Qaeda operation by Muslims against America and that the official government report on 9/11 is 100 percent true and kosher.

    You will have to believe these two things because the wealth of “documentation” in support of them is overwhelming.

    It happens, however, that you do NOT believe these two things. And you do not believe them, just as I do not believe them, for the simple reason that they are elaborate hoaxes got up by those who control the mass media, i.e., the Jews. So the Jews, you will admit, have managed to con 99% of the world into accepting these two hoaxes.

    I put it to you: the idea that Christ never existed is just another Jewish hoax. The idea that Christianity is a “Jewish plot” is yet another Jewish hoax. Ask yourself: cui bono? Who gains most by promoting the conspiracy theory that Christ never existed and that Christianity is a “Jewish con trick”.

    Only the Jews.

    This is a conspiracy theory designed to smash Christianity and deprive Christians of their God. The only beneficiaries are the Jews. By parroting this conspiracy theory, you simply make yourself a dupe of the Jews. Unwittingly, you serve a Jewish master and promote a Jewish agenda.

    Hey, I am not accusing you of being a Jew! Don’t get me wrong. I am saying you are one of those who finds himself believing all too easily in a farrago of nonsense invented by Jews. And you are not even aware of it. It suits you to believe this nonsense, so you believe it.

    To summarize: there is far more reason for you to believe in the mainstream view of the Holocaust and 9/11 than there is for you to believe in the conspiracy theory view that Christ never existed and that the Jews invented Christianity.

    ALL three are hoaxes, ALL three are Jewish lies — but you have unfortunately fallen for the third hoax, from which only the Jews have anything to gain.

    1. Anyone who has studied logic knows that it is logically impossible to prove a negative. Thus the proposition “There is no God” is logically invalid because it is impossible to prove it. Similarly, the proposition “Christ never existed” belongs in the same category of logically invalid statements — impossible to prove because negative.

      1. xanadu, you started off well but soon got derailed in a hurry to prove your point.

        if you were right, jews could use the same argument to defend their holocaust fable, i.e., “you cannot prove that holocaust didn’t happen”.

        yet it was in fact proven beyond all reasonable doubt unless you redefine the holocaust as some ancient jewish lady dying of alzheimer’s in teresienstadt in 1942 or whatever.

        i suppose it comes down to the circumstantial evidence and proof by contradiction, the usual sleuthing process.

        however, for things that leave no discernible trace in the world, your line of argument would be valid, e.g., were i to state that there are no vurgies, you wouldn’t be able to disprove my claim any more than i could prove it.

        now, the subject of god is a lot trickier than all of the above, because even the question of what constitutes circumstantial evidence is a hot topic.

    2. Well stated. True traditional Christianity has always been the ultimate foe to Talmudic Jewry, that is why they have work so hard to infiltrate and corrupt it in the last century through Christian Zionism, Christian Identity, Masonry, and Hollywood etc. Jesus is the antithesis of all that Jewry stands for.

      1. Christianity is the ultimate asset of Talmudic Jewry, with Christianity the Jews took all of Western civilization and made it their own and now even as we stand in the smoking ruins of our civilization that we built, Christians are still unable to see that their beliefs blind them to Jewish rule.

        Jewry love Christianity and promotes it on TV, the give it tax free status, the love how it teaches blind obedience to authority.

    3. @Xanadu and Brownhawk and John Friend

      ““Christianity is exposed as just another Jewish hoax . . . Jesus is the greatest man who never existed…”

      Easy enough to say, Phishna, but hard to prove. ”

      First of all the burden of proof is on the theist, I do not have to prove that Jesus didn’t exist, you have to prove that he did. You can’t, nobody has, and your entire belief system rests on the assumption of Jesus as a real person. There is absolutely no reference to him by any scholar, historian, sage, or any other writer alive at that time. That is really strange when you examine what is claimed about a god who walked on water. Not one footnote by any Roman historian about the miracle man who raised the dead in Judea?

      So where did the Jesus idea come from? He was invented by those interested in creating a Jewish savior king/sun god, the attributes of Jesus ARE ALL PLAGIARIZED by myths being circulated in Judea at that time. So we do have a scientific idea of where Christ was born, in the minds of the gospel writers, we can trace the memetic source of the entire Jesus story.

      http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

      “Christianity was the ultimate product of religious syncretism in the ancient world. Its emergence owed nothing to a holy carpenter. There were many Jesuses but the fable was a cultural construct.

      The nativity yarn is a concatenation of nonsense. The genealogies of Jesus, both Matthew’s version and Luke’s, are pious fiction. Nazareth did not exist in the 1st century AD – the area was a burial ground of rock-cut tombs.

      With multiple authors behind the original gospel story it is no surprise that the figure of “Jesus” is a mess of contradictions. Yet the story is so thinly drawn that being a “good Christian” might mean almost anything.

      The 12 disciples are as fictitious as their master, invented to legitimise the claims of the early churches. The original Mary was not a virgin, that idea was borrowed from pagan goddesses. The pagan world knew all about virgins getting pregnant by randy gods: The Mythical “Virgin Mother”. ”

      Furthermore, Paul was a Jew and looking at what we know about the tribe which invented the recent fables of the Holocaust, 9112001, and the most recent Sandy Hook hoax you have to be a fool to believe anything a Jew claims.

      Was it John Kaminski who said that the Jews are always lying, that they take an annual oath to god to lie to the goyim? So if you want to believe in the Jewish Jesus fable go ahead, join the masses who love to believe all kinds of things now disproven by science, like the flat earth, the constellations are gods, the stars are ancestors, Jonah swallowed by a whale, or Eve came from Adam’s rib and those who are having epileptic seizures are possessed.

      Primitive superstitions and stories have been destroyed by science yet you still believe because the spell is so strong. The Jewish god does not exist, neither does hell or devil, and thus no one needs to be saved by the son of the angry father god. Yet even today millions and millions of Christians tell each other that Jesus died on a cross for their sins when no such thing is even possible. There is no such thing as sin keeping you out of heaven. There is no hell except the one we create on earth by believing in Jewish memes.

      Listen carefully to Larkin Rose’s “Message to the Voting Cattle”, you theists are not worshiping Jesus, you are worshiping the state and power:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDghV8UpUzc

      Even if the Jewish god Yahweh was real you should not worship him because he is the biggest asshole of all time. Richard Dawkins sums up this evil entity in his best seller “The God Delusion”:

      “The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”

      Clearly evil Rabbis invented an evil god, the Jew god is a projection of Jewish values onto a deity. Do you believe in Zeus or Osiris? The Christian derides other gods but can not see that their god is just as fictional. Dawkins:

      “We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.”

      So I ask you what kind of person would actually want to worship Yahweh? What kind of person wants to be the “real” Jew? Want kind of person wants to associate with Jewish ideas of exclusionism? What kind of person wants to prostrate themselves before an all powerful god? What kind of person believes a Jew book of lies as their inner truth?

      Look at America and the world today. We can see clearly that the Jews and their Christian cousins are shredding every gentile value, everything good is being destroyed and now they are coming for you. Lol. The beast is being aimed at you dear Christian because what you didn’t see coming was that once the Jews took power that they never had any intention of sharing it with you. The greedy Jews want it all, all of the gold and all of the power and all of the dominance. Next time you might try picking a better business partner.

      So I sayeth onto you: Hitler was the greatest man of all time and Jesus is the greatest man who never existed. No one needs to saved except from the Jew or thinking and behaving like a Jew. Only a Jew or someone indoctrinated into Jewish ideas would charge interest on a loan. Usury is the finest example of Jewish supremacism, and it must absolutely end. The same with this evil Jewish judgmental and punitive legal system that puts pot users in a concrete box for smoking mother Nature.

      Its time to grow up and carefully place the Holy Bible in the shitcan, not just the Old Testament but the New Testament as well. Its time to arrest all of the preachers and Rabbis and charge them with insanity and promotion of terrorism, violence, and practice of black magic. Its time to end all of the Abrahamic psychopathic memeplexes and treat them as virulent mind viruses that threaten humanity. Its time to end the debt money system and Jew for profit legal and incarceration gulag. Its time to end these judgmental systems of torture and exploitation.

      1. @Phishna

        You addressed this to me, Xanadu and John Friend – and like you, I know we’re all on the same page here in believing that Hitler was a great man who took practical steps with the intent to destroy this scourge of Life.

        But I think yours and our common understanding in recognizing this scourge should override putting an emphasis on “burden of proof” or “theism” and “atheism”. Your “atheism” or my “theism” really has no bearing on this shared and astute observation of things as they are in this World.

        So getting that out of the way, I’ll say there’s nothing wrong with considering a notion that perception is reality when it comes to Jesus serving as one who represents to his followers what they at least know their hearts as a bulwark against evil. This has to count for something.

        And I would suggest to you that something many people don’t consider enough regarding ANOTHER practical reality in this spiritual war of good vs. evil is in the area of exorcism.

        Study its annals and tell me the power of Christ wasn’t as efficacious as the Wehrmach was in its own application of practical necessity.

      2. i would likewise add that it is not for nought that jews trepidate before christ and hate him above all things in the world, worse even than hitler and his lamentably short lived achievements.

        short lived but a bright memory that points to future solutions (cosmetics and lampshades notwithstanding).

        moreover, i wonder whether the unique contributions that europe brought to the world in the fields of philosophy, ethics, art and culture would have been of the same quality had instead of christianity a welter of religions, e.g., wiccan, norse, slavic, hellenic and so forth remained in their respective locations.

      3. @ Phishna
        You have been provided with proof that Christ existed. The burden of proof lays with the atheist and your arguments are spurious. I strongly suggest you go Phishing with a better net.

      4. It is easy to disprove your Jesus. If Jesus was real his flock wouldn’t be so far off course and completely lost, a huge number of Christians worship and support Israel no matter what Israel does.

        Try telling a Zionist Christian that Israel did 911, they just give you a blank stare like a dumb sheep, completely unable to process the information. Their religion does not illuminate them, it makes them clueless and easily led astray into militant Zionism.

        If Jesus was a real god sheperding his flock then we wouldn’t have the entire Evangelical movement supporting genocidal Israel. If Jesus was real he would talk to them like they claim, but he isn’t which is why they are completely clueless.

        Jesus isn’t real that’s why Zionism is so widespread amongst Christians.

      5. @ Phishna

        Tell me, sir, would you be allowed to go into a Christian church and climb into the pulpit and rage at the entire congregation that they were all deluded fools for believing in the existence of Jesus Christ?

        I think not.

        You would be dragged from the pulpit and marched off to the nearest psychiatric clinic. Where you belong.

        You are not Nietzsche, understand? You are not writing a book called Antichrist and getting it published in a world where the message “GOD IS DEAD” has many receptive ears. Especially Jewish ears. You are posting on a website where all the editorial staff, including Ms Darkmoon, happen to be committed Christians.

        So you have, in a sense, barged into their house where they offered you hospitality and you repaid their kindness by shitting on their carpet.

        You understand what I am saying: you have entered someone else’s house, uninvited, and YOU HAVE SHAT UPON THEIR CARPET!

        In case it escapes your attention, Phishna, the subject matter we are discussing here is Hitler. It is not Christ. Capisce?

        If you continue to try and derail the discussion by harping on about Christ whenever your open your ugly mouth, I shall ask for you to be banned.

      6. @ Phishnet
        Which part of this comment does your tiny brain not understand? There are people who verify the existence of Christ; in fact, even the jews admit in the Talmud they murdered Him.
        Christ Himself said there would be a breaking away from the faith and false prophets would appear. This Good Shepherd gives us freedom of choice. Furthermore, God left us a Book and He talks to us through His Book. Christendom was infiltrated by the jew and that’s why we have warmongering idiots who call themselves Christians. There are none on this website so why don’t you shut up and discuss the topic at hand rather than rattle on about your opinions?
        Incidentally, I make it my duty to inform Christian Zionists that Christ was the fulfillment of the Bible and not Israel.

        http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/was-hitler-a-zionist-stooge-by-john-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-74431

      7. Speaking of Friedrich Nietzsche, here’s a famous quote that applies directly to you:

        “The Christian resolve to find the world evil and ugly, has made the world evil and ugly.”

        Luckily your evil god is a fiction and thus earth does not have to be hell. Once the world realizes what you Christians and Jews have done, taking free peoples and enslaving them to your evil ideas of dogmatic control, then the world will turn on you.

    4. @Xanadu
      quote: “I put it to you: the idea that Christ never existed is just another Jewish hoax. The idea that Christianity is a “Jewish plot” is yet another Jewish hoax. Ask yourself: cui bono? Who gains most by promoting the conspiracy theory that Christ never existed and that Christianity is a “Jewish con trick”. ”

      I strongly disagree, Christianity is the greatest asset of Jewry and the reason why they were able to take Europe and America, which is why they were given tax free status. Christ is the rock on which the Jews stepped up to power, now that they have the power they will dispose of their allies because they do not want to share power.

      Legitimate criticism of Christianity does not make one a Jew or part of a Jewish plot. All religion is false and must be challenged, all religions are unproved memeplexes used to control populations.

      The Jews took the throne because the Christian majority was unable to recognize the threat of organized Jewry, Christians required to believe in a Jewish book in which the Jews as god’s chosen people. If you believe the Jews as chosen you are essentially making the Jews god because the god isn’t real.

      What Christian can challenge “the law” when they are indoctrinated in obey authority and the law? Who makes the law? Jews. Can you fathom the problem with Christianity? The Jews (via DHS) can even train Baptist clergy to indoctrinate the sheep in obeying the government even if it means their death and transport to FEMA camps. Christians will do whatever the authorities say because they believe the government is put in place by god.

      So if the Jews are getting ready to slaughter Christian America you might understand why I attack Christianity and say its a fraudulent myth because if they don’t wake up then they will die. Its clear to me that the Jews are using Christian gullibility to accomplish their goals, for instance the election of GW Bush was accomplished by recruiting the Evangelical vote. Most Evangelicals still like GW Bush, they still believe he is pro-life because he says he against abortion.

      1. Actually in that book Gentiles became God’s chosen.

        Hebrews 8:6– ”But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.”
        Galatians 3:14 : “ He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.”

      2. There are NO CHOSEN PEOPLES!!!!

        Only a racist supremacist believes that!

        Quoting from the Bible to prove a point means that you don’t have a rational argument.

      3. Acts 15:14-17 (King James Version)

        14 Simeon (Peter) hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

        15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
        16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
        17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.

        http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15%3A14-17&version=KJV

        http://bible.cc/acts/15-14.htm

      4. What has always corrupted the religion in Christ’s name is the jewish plot which has successfully created the hoax

        What Christianity has BECOME reflects the con.

        And how about this for irony: I contend that Jesus never intended for there to be a religion in his name! He certainly intended for his basic messages to prevail over the World. Those of showing love to those who are deserving of it and righteous hate for those who are not.

        But not in the form of ‘religion’ that he, in his perspicacity KNEW would be circumvented by those who have succeeded in doing so!

      5. @ Brownhawk
        When you buy a new car the auto dealer provides you with a manual. Does it not stand to reason that the Creator of this Universe would do the same? He tells us in the Bible what to look out for!

        1 Timothy 4:1

        New International Version (NIV)

        4 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

        http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+4%3A1&version=NIV

      6. @Sazzy

        Didn’t I essentially say the same thing but not in so many words?

        Or maybe this is all in the name of constructive criticism.

        If so, touche. I welcome it my dear.

      7. The creator didn’t write the Bible, the Jews did, only a fool would believe that the tribe that destroys all is somehow a representative of the creator.

        How can the Jews be chosen by the creator if all they do is wreck and destroy? The Jews and their demonic God(s) are destroyers, claiming God authority is a way to manipulate the tribe to do the dirty work of the Rabbinic class. With God the Rabbis can command their people and their duped allies to destroy without guilt and in totality.

  7. @Xanadu

    Good shot at @mm666 the anti jew/anti Christ harekrsna who seems to be back in town. As you rightly say the jews benefit: their giant menorah- mothman666 once pictured them as a set of flaccid donkeydicks on his site- in front of the WH and the removal of the Nativity Scene. Unfortunately gojk (good old john kaminski) fell for it too. They play in to the jew hands, whom they so fervently oppose.

    Here follows a repeat of a staff anouncement: Read Paramahansa Yogananda*: Autobiography of a Yogi. Esp. Chapter 39 where Yogananda meets in 1935 in Nazi Germany Therese Neumann the Catholic Stigmatist/mystic from Bavaria.

    *a great Yogi- One with the Source- in our days; he is not a ignorant dumbo like Scofeld manipulated by the bauerrotschild satanic bankers to vomit a footnote bible that poisons the nowadays socalled born again christians who deify that other bauerrotshild creation the Stolen Land of Palestine, Israhell.

    PY later would say that Therese Neumann was Mary Magdalene in her former life. Paramatma is the Author of Creation and as the Only One has full authority over it; jews and their (un)conscious supporters are part of His Play.

    CIA O

    1. The holiest of Jewish symbols, the menorah, is a phallic symbol. Any artist can plainly see that if you take a donkey penis an invert it then it looks exactly the same in dimensions and shape as the original menorah:

      pic of donkey and phallus:
      http://www.fourwinds10.net/resources/uploads/image/45758-13.jpg

      pic of original temple menorah:
      http://faculty.maxwell.syr.edu/gaddis/hst210/nov18/Menorah.jpg

      Essays on the god spell and menorah:

      https://spellboundworld.wordpress.com/

      1. @ Phishna

        QUOTE: The holiest of Jewish symbols, the menorah, is a phallic symbol. [Any proof for this unsupported statement?] Any artist can plainly see that if you take a donkey penis and invert it then it looks exactly the same in dimensions and shape as the original menorah” [I AM AN ARTIST AND I SEE NO RESEMBLANCE BETWEEN A MENORAH AND A PENIS, upright or inverted. IN ANY CASE, HOW MANY DONKEYS’ PENISES HAVE YOU SEEN? ARE YOU AN EXPERT ON DONKEYS’ PENISES?]

        If this is the level of your intellectuality, I don’t think Sazzy has anything to fear from you . You have obviously been educated beyond your intelligence.

        You know something, Phishna? I could easily make out that the Tower of Pisa was a phallic symbol! And the fact that it was a leaning tower, and not quite ERECT, would indicate that whoever built it was trying to make the snide point that the Pisans were impotent — because “they couldn’t get it UP properly”!

        That is your level of discourse, Phishna.

        Anyone who talks so glibly of “phallic symbols” is a Jew who has sucked at the teats of Freud.

      2. @ Sardonkeycuss
        Just so you know, Freud did said the Menorah was phallic, and Freud was a Jew. The ancient Jews were known for their phallic idolatry and the extra large donkey penis must of made them envious.

        http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?65914-Phallic-Idolatry-among-Ancient-Jews/page2

        Just look at Jew Hollywood and their obsessions with sex. Even modern Jews are still obsessed with the penis and make thousands of porn films showing the penis entry up close, maybe the early oral circumcision (brisk?) traumatizes the raging Jew male mind.

      3. @ Yukon
        Yes, Sigmund Freud was a jew who was addicted to cocaine and he is also the one who coined the ridiculous term, “penis envy.” Freud was obsessed with sex and even a pencil would have represented a phallic symbol to this maniacal drug addict!

  8. More truthful information About Shitjew and the nazis :

    Google : ” Conjuring Hitler pdf ”

    Lots of information about how Shitjew was put in power by the bankers.

    Also : Go to : ” Hitler Was A British Agent ”

    http://www.whale.to/b/tavistock.html

    http://www.whale.to/c/bankers.html

    http://www.whale.to/c/funding_of_hitler.html

    Greg Hallet’s expose about Shitjew and the nazis is an excellent work – very informative. The “whale to” website has a lot of truthful information about how Shitjew and the nazis were put into power by satanic forces.

    All three links contain alot of information everyone should know before deciding about whether Hitler was a wonderful fellow or not.

    Ruth Bernstein — the jew who is so proud and full-of-herself with her jewishness — should be giving us the above info. Instead, the zionist jew Bernstein supports nazism.

    A few years back, I would have been shocked that a Jew would support nazism, but I’m not shocked now to hear a jew such as Bernstein supports shitler and the nazis, because we ALL know now zionist jews + nazis go hand-in-hand.

    Google : ” Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers”
    ” Hitler’s Jewish Army”

    The devout Catholics in Europe were opposed to nazism/fascism. If Mussolini had listened to the devout Catholics in Italy he would have stayed back in his hometown and would have opened up a little pizza joint, and leave everyone alone. The worst damage he could have done was maybe over-charge the tourists for the pizza slices.

    I come online to present the devout Catholic point-of-view. Devout Catholics in Europe were opposed to nazism/fascism. I’m not talking about Catholics in high levels of government, necessarily. I’m talking about devout [ not nominal] Catholics, the kind who have no say in the way we’re ruled in this world. They hated nazism/fascism. Many devout Catholics were brutally murdered — qua devout Catholics they were brutally murdered — as well thrown into IG Farben work camps.

    I have no problem with jews overall — the average working-class jews I meet in every day life , I get along fine with them, no problem– but the nazi/zionist* jews are despicable. And so are all those who follow them. Go follow the nazi jews WN’ers and see what happens to you. Good luck with that.

    In the meantime, I never hear the WN types who detest jews so much ever complain about ALL the non-jews in Freemasonry : Freemasonry is jew talmudism/kaballah for non-jews, yet the WN’ers don’t seem to mind that they get their “Aryan history/heritage” from the Freemasonry. Never. Very odd.

    It’s always jews, jews, jews, 24/7. Yet, it was satanic jews in freemasonry — with lots of help from satanic non-jews — who conjured up “Aryanism” in the Very First Place. As usual, the jews were the Freemason leaders and tons of non-jew shitheads listen[ed] to the jews : Then they turn around and complain about the jews 24/7. It’s absurd.

    * nazism/zionism/communism = All 3 come out of the talmud/kaballah.

    Anyone who follows any one of the above 3 is either a jew, or a if a non-jew, a total shithead.

    What say you Ruth Bernstein?

    1. @ Joe the jew
      This website offers nothing but lies and disinformation to cover up what Hitler did for the German people. He defied the jewish banksters and Germany flourished!

      1. If only Americans would have had Hitler as President. Hitler defied the jewish bankers and Communist FDR sold out the American people to the jew!

        “In 1933, FDR became President. He then imposed the ‘New Deal,’ a tyrannical, plutocratic, Communist program for a Jewish collectivist state. Roosevelt broke every promise he had made and did the exact opposite of what he had promised. ‘I propose to you that the government, big and little, be made solvent and that the example be set by the President.’ Roosevelt swore to ‘reduce the cost of government operations twenty-five percent.’

        “Was he lying?

        “Oh, yes. From 1933 to 1936, government expenditures sky-rocketed up 83%. He confiscated the gold and made it practically illegal for Americans to own gold, doubling the price. He took the wealth from Americans and put it into the Jews’ hands. Banks were shut down en mass and after only a few months this New Deal (or more precisely this Jew Deal) was such an utter failure that it had to be revamped in an attempt to salvage the program, and all this while the White House was being turned into a whorehouse. Roosevelt was a promiscuous man both before and after he got polio.

        http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/wars/fdr.html

      2. How America Was Conned into Fighting Hitler:

        The Lies, Crimes and Hypocrisy of FDR

        This will be the first of several posts dealing with Franklin D. Roosevelt’s secret involvement in World War II, exposing his crimes against Germany which preceded Hitler’s declaration of War against the USA, and also his criminal deceptions perpetrated against the American people, and by extension, other allied nations which went along with him and Churchill in what was an unnecessary and unjustifiable, long, and bloody world war.

        I recommend listening to the following podcast by historian Mark Weber of the IHR and reading the article linked below it. My own commentary then follows, along with additional and essential information from a variety of sources.

        President Roosevelt’s Record of Lies and Lawlessness in the so-called ‘Good War’
        The Mark Weber Report
        June 29, 2011

        Citing little-known reports and remarks of Polish, British and French officials, and other evidence, Weber traces President Franklin Roosevelt’s secret campaign to provoke war in Europe prior to the outbreak of hostilities in September 1939. By pressing Britain, France and Poland into war against Germany, the US President bears at least some responsibility for World War II. Weber also discusses the role of Jewish power and influence on US foreign policy during those years. Roosevelt’s record of deceit, lies and lawlessness is routinely suppressed by those who control the US media and American cultural life. Americans who express admiration for Roosevelt and his leadership have little moral right to complain when other presidents follow his example and lead the country into war by breaking the law, subverting the Constitution, and lying to the people.

        LISTEN TO AUDIO

        http://justice4germans.wordpress.com/2013/01/22/how-america-was-conned-into-fighting-hitler-the-lies-crimes-and-hypocrisy-of-fdr/

      3. Documentary: Hitler’s War – What the Historians Neglect to Mention …and what the world finally needs to know

        This is a 96 minute long “Made in Germany” underground documentary film. It’s the first documentary ever to unabashedly explain from the German perspective, how World War II really began, and the many efforts that were made by Hitler to avoid it, and to establish a lasting, viable and mutually acceptable peace, but how he was ultimately left with no choice but to invade Poland. It documents many facts that have been deliberately left out of the “official narrative” as presented by the victorious Allies, which we have all been taught since 1945, and which Germans especially have been constantly reminded of since the war ended; with the blame entirely upon Germany’s shoulders. Many of the claims of the Allies that have been widely accepted as fact are refuted here as patently untrue, distorted, or ignored completely.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7mA0kk29DBA

      4. Ah yes, the jew Rooseveldt.

        The worst President America has ever had. By a longshot.

        My 80 plus year old parents still think this total traitor was the greatest president since the days of the fouding fathers.

        My father fought in Patton’s army and it breaks my heart and infuriates my brain that there’s no way for my telling the truth to them will ever get through before they die.

        And yes, they both support this latest abject traitor in the White House.

        I can barely stand it as it makes it painfully difficult to visit them. My only solace is to love them and keep the peace as I try to avoid bleeding from biting down on my tongue.

  9. The 1945 US War Dept. Report concerning J Speer Williams + Mossad Joe was entered into the 1945 Congressional Records and can be researched also at the Library of the US Congress : ” The Library of Congress “: “Google” Google “Library of Military Brass of Congressional Library of Congress” “Google Google Giggle”

    head hurts … poor poor jew joe …

  10. Maybe Ruth Bernstein and Ariel Sharon are the same person –as both are brain-dead and comatose.

  11. Maybe Shitler and John deNugent are one and the same person — as both of them are some kind of ” aryan-hyperborean avatars” who are going take the white race to Mars and beyond the stars……..

  12. If all Jews were like George Burns, and all Christians like Gracie Allen, the world would be a pretty wonderful place.

    George Burns was my All-Time favorite Jew.

    What say you Ruth Bernstein?

    1. I like it. A little true levity is always a good thing.

      My favorite jews were Curly Howard and Harpo Marx. Funny thing is, when they first made me laugh I never thought of them as “jewish”. Just funny dudes.

      1. @ Brownhawk

        I also think Lauren Bacall was pretty sexy. She was Jewish.

        I wonder if Ruth Bernstein has the kind of looks like the knock-out Lauren Bacall .

        Or, does Ruth Bernstein look more like Golda Meir? Maybe Ruth Bernstein and Golda Meir are the same person : Both of them are hard-line zionists : Golda-girl never got around to mentioning the large number of jews in the nazi party either.

      2. You condone the violence of those three jew stooges? Shame on you if that kind of behavior makes you laugh. It just goes to show that watching Talmudvision brainwashes some people at an early age. There is no such thing as a good jew!

      3. Really Sazzy?

        There is much to admire about you, but in the spirit of constructive criticism, which my tough skin is more than willing to absorb, your art of discernment needs work.

        E.g.; If you go to Henry Makow’s (he’s jewish ) website for instance, you’ll find there articles that most definitely don’t support your thinking that there is no such thing as a good jew.

        Sure, in my opinion he’s still in the dark about Hitler (about which I sent him a long e-mail) but like me, you, him, etc etc etc, ad infinitum only one can claim the mantle of perfection.

      4. @ Brownhawk
        So, your point is although they are murdering people around the globe we should still engage in jewish humor?
        I am fully aware Henry Makow is a jew and congratulations for informing him about Hitler. However, I’m sure he’s already aware of Hitler and you didn’t say what you informed him about.

        When and how did I claim a mantle of perfection? By warning people about the jew? Or are you referring to Christ? Well, they killed him too and blame it on the Romans.

  13. In the year 2013, ” Mossad” “Joe” went back into time — using a super-duper time-travel machine developed in a “secret” mossad/cia military base up in the Himalaya mountains —-traveled back through time to 1945 :

    And then “Mossad” “Joe” wrote & presented the 1945 US War Dept Report to the 1945 US Congress about IG Farben/Shitler, and using stealth & sneaky “mossad” type behavior, forced all the librarians working in the US Library of Congress in 1945 to put The Report in the Congressional Records……

    ……. yes sirre bob.

  14. I don’t have time to read John deNugent today because time is valuable and one must learn how to use time wisely, there’s so much to learn & there’s so much information out there [ is that not so, Gilbert Huntly?] : That’s why I’m going to read about “Hitler and Castro” at Aangirfan website today about what hitler and castro had in common.

    1. Yeah, go to Aangirfan. They have even more insane conspiracy theories than yours, such as that Castro is a CIA agent and poisoned Hugo Chavez. You will feel at home there. Better stay there!

      1. @Ryckaert

        I’ve travelled all over the world, and I always felt at home everywhere ; Also, I’m very comfortable and secure in reading a very wide range of websites/books,etc. , presenting many various point-of-views, without falling apart or becoming nervous and/or perturbed in any way, including here at Darkmoon.

        I shall come and go as I please.

    2. @ Joe. Beware of Aangirfan. He is a pusher of the wrong dope of jew Webster Tarpley, who always names and and all perps of the Twin Tower theater except the jewish crime network behind 911.

      http://www.whale.to/b/webster_tarpley.html

      (…) I happen to know something about Webster Tarpley, having been part of the same four-man panel during Jimmy Walter’s 9-11 Truth Tour in Europe in the summer of 2005. During the tour Tarpley put the blame for 9-11 on a nebulous group that he never actually identified but one would infer was tied to NATO and the CIA. Tarpley, like all the other panelists on the tour, never mentioned any Israeli or Zionist role in 9-11 (…)

      Also Spricht Crhistopher Bollyn

      CIA O

      1. @ CIA O

        I’m always discerning in my reading ; I’m always very discerning whatever I read, whatever the source.

      2. … and your sources are always jewish disinformation which you are paid to pass along!

      3. Aangirfan always names the jews — no problem there. Aangirfan also has excellent articles about Sandy Hook. Aangirfran is not shy at all about naming jews.

        Aangirfan names jew culprits and non-jew culprits both. Aangirfan is very balanced & very honest in naming names.

        Of course, one must be discerning in reading anything — that’s has always been true throughout history. I never suggested otherwise.

      4. @joe

        OK. He’ll pick this Tarpley thing of Bollyn up. I once posted there as anonymous, since the other url and stuff were closed. He posted it entirely together with the 911israeldidit!! mantra. So. I got arrested in front of the American consulate in Amsterdam the weekend after Bhenghazi.

        We’re gonna make it funky….To be or not to be…

        Maceo Parker at Noth Sea Jazz 2005

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5yEghiWY5o

        CIA O

  15. lobro may be interested in the news today : Rense has an article about how “Playboy” just “launced” a Hebrew language edition of the bunny magazine for izzysmells.

    It’ll give the boys on Dizzengoff St in tel aviv a break every once in a while from their talmud/kaballah studies, and their online sayanim/mossad duties, and look at the purdy bunnies while eating their falafels.

    What say you Ruth Bernstein?

    1. While you wrote Ryckaert 2 posts ago I posted this:

      Instead of getting screwed up by Joe who delivers in a kind of slapstick way certain nourishing pizza’s, did you already digest the meals about the vimana’s, the spacecrafts of the ancient Vedic civilization of India. You were so pope sure that there were only hunters and gatherers a few thousand years ago.

      (…) Only seven years after the first successful atom bomb blast in New Mexico, Dr. Robert Oppenheimer (1904-1967) Scientist, philosopher, bohemian, and radical. A theoretical physicist and the Supervising Scientist of the Manhattan Project, who was familiar with ancient Sanskrit literature, was giving a lecture at Rochester University.
      During the question and answer period a student asked a question to which Oppenheimer gave a strangely qualified answer:

      Student: Was the bomb exploded at Alamogordo during the Manhattan Project the first one to be detonated?
      Dr. Oppenheimer: “Well — yes. In modern times, of course (…)

      Not that I am a nuke fan. Let all listen to John Samuel Hagelin who points to a far more powerful level of Nature’s functioning: the Planck Scale 10-33 cm, far more powerful and peaceful than the atom: the Atma, the Being, the real I lies, Kingdom Within, the real Ryckaaert, FreeXS4all, key: MMY’s TM.

      Hagelin.org. He was a star at Stanford and the CERN reactor in Geneve but is since then full time Knower and Exponent of real-I-t. The Knower of Brahman is/becomes Brahman.

      For a wide angle history lens: http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/FrawleyD1.php?p=2

      CIA O

      1. A good antidote against the belief in technologically highly developed civilizations in prehistory is the website PaleoBabble : your antidote to cyber-twaddle and misguided research about the ancient world.

        The Vedas are no more than 3500 years old and contain mostly hymns to imaginary gods, some of great poetic beauty, but that is about it. But of course all kinds of “yogis” see highly developed technologies in these superstitious hymns. Swami Dayananda, founder of the Arya Samaj, saw already steam-trains in the Vedas (but no electrical trains, let alone airplanes or even computers. Small wonder, in his time those things didn’t yet exist ). Hindus have no sense of real history and think in terms of mythical ages stretching eons back. Typically they have not produced histories, only mythologies.

      2. Which of course isn’t to say that there isn’t something of great value being in an ahistoric paradigm.

        So much of “history” being such a breeding ground of trouble and all

      3. @poor ryckaert

        Either you can’t read or read the wrong stuff. Arya Samaj is blind leading the blind, no enlightenment there. Only talking heads. Needless to say you never had any experience in what makes the real Vedic Tradition of India so unique: through contact with them and their techniques real experience in higher states of consciousness. You never had contact with any Real Guru.

        The extra value of Maharishi is that after the Beatles ‘left’ a lot of prominent scientists got in his sphere of influence. On Symposia they met. At Amherst MIT Buckminster Fuller said after his science expose that he linked with Maharishi’s Science of Creative Intelligence (Consciousness) ”When you look Maharishi into the eyes you see he manifests Love”

        As I said already twice before, hunters and gatherers don’t pruce detailed inscriptions or descriptions of spaceships. A good sign that clearheaded Graham Hancock is now shaking hands with American Vedantist David Frawn and other openminded researchers: Hunters and gatherers don’t construct pyramids.

        Maharishi as cosmic genius has unfolded the deeper aspects of the Veda’s. The Veda’s are the blueprint of Creation*. The sound aspect is much more important than any meaning/story line that is attached to it. Stanford/CERN star Hagelin in the eighties has published several papers in which he proposes to reconstruct the nomenclatura of Physics from its basis in the Unified Field (the Veda=Consciousness). Quark is quite a random name. There is no swiss cheese there at that level. The Vedic sounds actually are the actual vibration that these smaller particles produce.

        *3500 years? In what kind of ot jew genesis universe do you actually live, poor ryckaert? So unfold your Godgiven human brain potential through the practical aspect of Maharishi Vedic Science: TM the coming 25 years or so? Thus remove the functional holes, probably filled with rotten swiss cheese in your kaas, eh case.

        Enfin this site popped up: Samarvataka of 10 000 Years
        SAMAVARTAKA FIRE – Golden Age of 10,000 years

        http://www.pchauvancy.com/samarvataka-fire-golden-age-of-10-000years/

        CIA O

    1. hey, that’s my uncle moe-joe-9-11 (11th from the lft, 9th row).
      i’d recognize him in any police lineup of cosmetic products.

      once i locate his yarmulke shaped lamshade, my family collection will be complete.

  16. @ Joe

    I want to thank you for all you have taught us in your short stay on our site. I hear through a trusted poster that you intend to move on to other sites now. This is a good idea.

    I understand that you you intend to continue posting on darkmoon.me for the next few days, making your last post on Saturday or Sunday. Be welcome until then.

    Sincere best wishes,

    — John Scott Montecristo, Editor

    1. @ John Scott Montecristo

      I shall continue to read your website as I learn a lot here at Darkmoon.

      Something came up, and I have to leave later today. I thought I would be able to post for a few more days, but I must leave today, ahead of my planned schedule .

      I shall no longer post to your website from hence forth. I made all the points I wanted to make, I believe. Thank you for giving me the opportunity, however short in duration.

      From : Joe

      1. @Joe

        Italian vulcano. People generally run away from eruptions after they see that their umbrellas are not exactly lavaproof. Why you exit this plaza? Good link Christ Light in the Veda’s. Also Anthony Sutton that I first heard in The Boogeyman of the Dutch writer Peter Stuyvenberg. That book I laid at the counter of the Amsterdam Schiphol Police at 24 dec 2009 during a short talk with them while saying that the Israeli Mossad is actually already for 40 or so years above the Dutch law at their workfloor. Took the train to Brussels where the book was consumed cover to cover in a Hotel first Christmasday.

        Exactly that day- to underline the talmudick contempt for JC- the very same Schiphol plaza police let in close collaboration with the Mossad run airport security ICTS the Nigerian underwearmbomber changed planes to Denver.

        Anthony Sutton is mucho forte.

        He disclosed that thejewallstreet banksters financed AH in the first place. That AH got fed up with them is another good side of the coin.

        You should keep on posting imo, but ok I am a guest of LDJMC But with some more time outs and pit stops?

        CIA O

  17. John Friend you do publish a lot of good articles but always contaminate them with your christian filth. When I saw the book The New Babalon another christian biblical take on devilizing the Babylonians who were the Gentiles Aryans it showed again how you christians have to shove more anti Gentile propaganda into everything you print. Why did the United States of Israel starve the Babylonians invade Babylon Iraq bomb the hell out of Iraq and impose their Jewsih Christian filth into this sovereign country if We are the New Babylon? More accurate would be to call it the New Israel. America is the whore of Israel not Babylon.

    1. you are right in everything, except blaming christ for it.

      note that majority of “christians” as as uncomfortable with christ as you are, if not more.

      and christ would be every bit as uncomfortable with what was done to mesopotamia as you are, if not more.

      yes, usa is jew’s trained babaloon that dances at the end of its leash to the tune of hav-a-tequila or whatever the f*** their music is called.

      1. @ John Sholtes
        The word “Satan” is Hebrew and YOU worship a jew god!

        Satan (Hebrew: הַשָּׂטָן ha-Satan, “the opposer,”[1]) is a character appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions,[2][3] who personifies evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver that leads humanity astray. The term is often applied to an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who now rules over the fallen world.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan

      2. Oh how I would have loved to be amoung the Romans who had the priviledge of whipping and nailing this stinking jew to a stick.

        what do we have here, a christkiller.

        well, enjoy passover, christkiller, where the jews nail an upright sacrificed lamb to a roasting stick in mockery of that event in 33 ad that gives you such a hardon.

        and just about now, i’ll bet you are taking part in the purim lottery to decide which christian boy will bleed under your knife, won’t you?

        well, it is summer with you flesh fly,
        your winter will come on

      3. by your own admission, the thought of whipping and nailing to a cross a bound and defenseless man gives you a homoerotic turnon, no backing down from what you said, you sick cunt.

        OH HOW I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO BE AMOUNG THE ROMANS WHO HAD THE PRIVILEDGE OF WHIPPING AND NAILING THIS STINKING JEW TO A STICK.

      4. Yes he had the gaul to claim kingship over a Roman Provence. This was punishable by death under Roman Law and he got just what he deserved. Apparently you beilieve in Jewish law and reject all things non jewish. So now you admit that he was a defensless man not a god which if he did exist he was a pitiful stinking jew and you are a jew by circumcision babtism and your Gentild Soul was murdered and the jewish christ cultist priest called down for a jewish soul to invade your former ‘gentile body. Worship the jew gaawd all you want but Odin who is also referred by jews and christ blood cultists as Satan is My God. I prefer the name Satan because by its very definition is the enemy of the jews. So WAT jewboy wanna fight.

      5. “Oh how I would have loved to be amoung the Romans who had the priviledge of whipping and nailing this stinking jew to a stick.”

        Have no fear, this self-confessed satanist will not be posting here any more. Had his comment been relevant to the subject matter, which is Hitler, I might have let him get away with his little spitting frenzy. But he has only one ax to grind, it seems: Christ hatred. So I see his incessant Christ bashing as an attempt to derail the discussion.

  18. Paid Zio-trolls seem to be heavily infesting the comments lately.

    Thanks to Joe for not returning. Anybody who posts that many times without making a valid point either has a mental problem, too much idle time, or is being paid to stir up b.s. The intelligent, thoughtful comments get lost in the little talmudic shitstorms.

  19. i too wish joe g*dspeed.

    and heartily recommend giving nazi salute at the next synagogue service, they are sure to appreciate it.

  20. During the Great Depression the people in Germany were prosperous thanks to the leadership of Adolf Hitler because he did not bow to the jewish bankers. However, the people in the United States suffered and many starved to death because Roosevelt and most of the Democratic party were Communists. It is also suspected by many that Roosevelt was jewish himself. (Rosenfelt?)

    The jews boycotted and tried to starve the German people due to the fact that Hitler resisted jewish financing; they tried to starve the German people to death. Also, it was suggested that the German people be sterilized as a means of ethnic genocide.

    This demonization of Adolf Hitler is to distract people from the miraculous economic recovery he made by defying the international jewish bankers.

    http://archive.org/details/GermanyMustPerish_479

  21. How can you be so stupid in not being able to see the forest for the trees?

    Here’s a simple tip in Clarity 101: What you refer to as “Christianity” in your correct ascertainment of it has nothing to do with who the real Christ was and what the totality of his message was, numbnuts.

    Get a clue or you’ll find yourself getting the dump just like your fellow ignoramus, Joe. You really have diddly-squat to offer if that’s all you got.

    1. if you follow this particular subthread, i actually started off on an amicable basis, saying precisely the same thing as you did: don’t confuse jesus christ with his clueless and wayled wannabe followers.

      he in turn told me to fuck off and came on with his perverted fantasy of joining the savior’s tormentors.

      at that moment, the satanist made himself an extra and quite unnecessary enemy.
      his master will not be pleased with the bungler.
      so sorry.

      1. if in some purgatory i had to spend time chatting with either one of those characters, i would have chosen joe, for all his hatred of adolf, he was the brighter of the two and more literate.

      2. True that.

        Joe has his own brand of misdirected hatred. John Sholtes is just plain sadistic.
        Good riddance to the Satanist creep

      3. It is refreshing to get on here and see that Montecristo has dealt with such as this Shoaltes devil. I wanted to call him ugly names, but I see y’all beat me to the draw. Most of you are better at reprimand than I – because all I want to really do is get ahold of them and whip their wimpy asses.

  22. @Sazzy

    My point to you is about discernment.

    It’s CERTAIN FACTIONS of jews and their accomplices (who together comprise the Illuminati) who are killing people all over the World, but why should this justify the indicting of all jews? What about jews who are duped just like Christians by these same murdering factions? Or Zionist-hating jews who were killed in WW2, but NOT under the auspices of a National Socialist policy – victims so sucessfully used in the phony Zionist narrative.

    Makow unfortunately is still under the delusion that Hitler was a Zionist stooge, which again, makes him a dupe like so many others. I told him he’s got Hitler pegged all wrong. That his rise to power was startlingly threatening to the Zionists, who were confident that they could steer events in their favor, but not before being faced with a formidable foe that they didn’t expect in their smug arrogance.

    I tried to impress upon him that, yes, the Illuminati hand was certainly busy attaching strings to the real Zionist stooges who would become their moles. No doubt in my mind headed by the supremely cunning snake Martin Bormann.

    The Illuminati had to scramble to keep pace with the breakneck speed the Nazis were moving at. Everything was a blitzkrieg in those years. They had their hands full and it was a tribute to them, led by Hitler’s dedication that they were able to achieve as much as they did. And here I’d like to ask any of you what info you can direct me to that tries to explain just what the hell happened in the Russian campaign that lost Germany the War. e.g.; did the planted moles somehow hold sway over Hitler in what appears to be such poor decision-making in military strategy? Especially of course during Barbarossa and again in 1942.

    And Sazzy, of course I was referring to Christ with my “mantle of perfection” quote. Please read more carefully.

    1. @ Brownhawk
      Actually, I read quite well. Please try to make your thoughts clearer; thank you!

      Illuminati? Why don’t you say JEW? That’s what they are. Haven’t we been down this road before? There is no such thing as a “good jew.” There may be a handful but they are either dead or on their way.

      Here is a Hitler quote:

      [Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922, countering a political opponent, Count Lerchenfeld, who opposed antisemitism on his personal Christian feelings. Published in “My New Order”, quoted
      in Freethought Today April 1990]

      “My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows.

      For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exposed.”

  23. learned a lot here the past few days … a lot of thoughtful comments here … though probably learned the most from jdl joe

    his burning hatred for hitler and christianity seems unbased … unless they really did pose a threat to world jewry

    i wouldnt defend joe, he is far more malicious than this sholtes guy … he lumps in christianity with catholicism (ziotroll trick/ definition by association), and attacks catholicism … which is easy and obvious … the vatican was always jewish … and perhaps rome was jewish too … seems to me imperialism is only a jewish idea – ive never met a european that wanted land in africa, nor an african that wanted land in europe

    catholicism has little to do with christianity … jesus said follow the truth and you follow with me … he never said to follow him … he made evil accountable … this is different from the catholic subversion that wants you to bend over and open your mouth after you get raped

    however, even knowing catholicism is zio christianity, i wouldnt spend time attacking it … most catholics have good christian values … they dont care about the face or vatican too much, they dont associate with that part, its alien to them … the anti-religious are more religious than any religious person, and their religion is zionism … divide and watch the goy kill each other over adjectives … then take over land and business of the dead

  24. how to lie?

    a good lie is one that isnt up for debate … you make the lie part of the background, an assumed reality

    example 1. lets say i wanted you to believe that obama was black (obama is half-black half-jew) … i wouldnt come out and say obama is black, that would be putting it up for debate, and initiate critical thinking … instead, i would show videos of obama playing basketball, say he is a fan of a certain basketball team … the brainwashee subconsciously assumes that obama is black because he likes basketball

    example 2. lets say i wanted you to believe that Hitler was the source of all evil in WWII … i wouldnt say Hitler did this or Hitler did that … that would be putting Hitler up for debate and initiate critical thinking … instead i would say things like, those robbers were as bad as Hitler … or, that gunman was as evil as Hitler … (this method is a jewish favorite to use in sitcoms) … after a while, the background comes to be an assumed reality … then we come to history class and hear the word Hitler, and we already have a reaction as to who or what he did even when we dont really know anything at all

  25. I already heard in the past that Hitler was a crypto jew. I also heard and read he had only one testicle. I heard and read he was a homosexual and a lot of other silly stories based on nothing. It is the usual propaganda used against great men in history to picture them in the opposite way they were. Hitler was a great hero for Germany and for all Europe but he made the “mistake” to understand who was behind the secret power ruling the world and how to handle with it and this has been neither forgotten, nor forgiven.
    Regards to everyone.
    Gian Franco Spotti
    Soragna (Parma) – ITALY

  26. there seems to be a satanist revolving door here, shoaltes and phishna waving to each other as one exits and the other enters.

    basically, they all work like this:
    whatever jews hate the most, they hate it as well and go to the utmost to smear it by – you got it – association with jews.

    jews know that the best way to tar and feather detractors is by spreading their filth onto them.

    the hoped for result is to hate jesus and hitler and develop an appreciation for devil.
    i think we have seen numerous attempts, none sufficiently well developed or convincing to merit further tolerance.

  27. “You can thank God you have such a wonderful man as a leader” – Lloyd George the enemy of Germany during WW1 said that addressing a group of Germans. Even Churchill who in 1938 sent a letter to Hitler in which he wrote “If ever Great Britain was plunged into a disaster comparable to that afflicted Germany in 1918 I would ask God that he send a man of your strength and character as your excellency.”

  28. Latest news Benjamin Fulford: pope, dope and other
    geopolitical drama in theater Earth

    (…)
    However, the Russians have clearly drawn a line in the sand at Syria and the Pentagon has repeatedly rebuffed cabal attempts to start World War 3 in the Middle East. The Jews in the United States are also sick and tired of the criminal activities of the rogue Netanyahu gangster regime in Israel.

    It is worth remembering that the symbol of the flag of the rogue state of Israel is the star of Lucifer and that the mobsters who put that symbol of the flag have been weapons, slave and drug dealers for thousands of years.
    (…)

    (…)
    Everybody who still has an independent working brain and pays attention knows the US military is in Afghanistan waging a fake war with their Taliban allies to support the $500 billion a year Sabbatean mafia run heroin business there.
    (…)

    http://eclinik.wordpress.com/vital-issues/ben-fulford/asian-or-roman-pope-next-also-north-korea-seeks-political-union-with-south/

    CIA O

  29. I want some one to look at me in the eyes and tell me that Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Adolf Eichmann, Josef Goebbels, and Reinhard Heydrich look Aryan.

  30. that’s a lie that Adolf Hitler hated Jewish people in general; when he was little in school, he had a crush with a Jewish girl named Stefanie Isak. He didn’t talk to her, and was writing letters to her everyday, but she just ignored it. And Hitler’s driver was Jewish too. and to put more emphasis in proving that Hitler didn’t hate Jewish people, about 150,000 of them joined the Third Reich and they had to by force or they would have to join their parents in the camps. Adolf Hitler just lost all logic as he grew up and had a nervous breakdown. Hitler was the puppet, not Jewish people.

  31. This is sometimes a heated subject to discuss, in most cases people have made up their mind one way or another and most likely you cannot change that. I myself have looked into the subject and have found enough to convince me that Der Fuhrer was a Rothschild. There is some question about her and Angela, as they are both known for constantly flashing the old pyramid hand sign. But anyway I drummed up a few counter points, see what you think.

    http://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2013/05/08/hitler-was-a-rothschild-and-so-was-his-daughter-angela/

    http://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2013/05/09/adolph-hitler-founder-of-israel-dna-test-confirms-jewish-genes-rabbi-marvin-antelman-claims-hitlers-mother-klara-polzl-conceived-in-tisha-bav-sexual-rite/

    There are some 2000 year old scrolls that say yes Jesus did exist although his message seems to be much different than the one presented to us by the British born emperor Constantine.

    http://www.thenazareneway.com/essene_gospel_of_peace_book1.htm

  32. “The Vedas are no more than 3500 years old and contain mostly hymns to imaginary gods, some of great poetic beauty, but that is about it. But of course all kinds of “yogis” see highly developed technologies in these superstitious hymns. Swami Dayananda, founder of the Arya Samaj, saw already steam-trains in the Vedas (but no electrical trains, let alone airplanes or even computers. Small wonder, in his time those things didn’t yet exist ). Hindus have no sense of real history and think in terms of mythical ages stretching eons back. Typically they have not produced histories, only mythologies.”

    Your above quote Frank shows you know absolutely nothing concerning the history of planet earth, you should get out more. Interesting responders here. I keep this one around as I ever so often run into a layer of darkness such as the above. I guess you have never heard of giza, Cuzco, the temple of Jupiter and other megaliths.

    In fact Vedic civilization was world wide at one time until the British born emperor constantine killed the Vedic priests in the vatican and instituted his brand of christianity which by the way is very different from the Essene scrolls. Some of this is so straight forward a baby could understand and easily could have been written by any number of native American chiefs.

    http://www.thenazareneway.com/essene_gospel_of_peace_book1.htm

    “The blood which runs in us is born of the blood of our Earthly Mother. Her blood falls from the clouds; leaps from the womb of the earth; babbles in the brooks of the mountains; flows wide in the rivers of the plains; sleeps in the lakes; rages mightily in tempestuous seas.

    “The air which we breathe is born of the breath of our Earthly Mother. Her breath is azure in the heights of t heavens; soughs in the tops of the mountains; whispers the leaves of the forest; billows over the cornfields; slumbers in the deep valleys, burns hot in the desert.”

    Anyway back to ancient history. Constantine called his wise men from Turkey (the birth place of masonry) and they debated as to whether or not Alexander should be accorded divinity the same as Jesus. They were trying to keep a faltering roman empire together. Evidence of Vedic civilization is world wide, from the Mayan ruins to the ancient shamans who still practice in Russia.

    Maybe you could explain how these heathen could life the 800 ton columns found in the temple of Jupiter that we do not have machinery capable of lifting today?

    http://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/who-are-the-nefilim-where-did-they-go-will-they-return/

  33. The bankers made some good business. Germany was turned to rubble, Dresden melted, Bolshevism awarded awarded one third of Germany, reparations now at one billion a year, Israel established, Germans taking orders from Nato and now financing middle east wars themselves. Fortunes were made rebuilding Germany. Of course they didn’t have to rebuild I.G. Farben, other businesses and the Rothschild mansion because they were not bombed.

    Der Fuhrer escaped. Wanna see his grave near Spanish Franco’s palace?

    http://www.onlinepublishingcompany.info/content/read_more/complexInfobox/site_news/infobox/elements/template/default/active_id/2293

    That one billion a year from German workers and the guilt complex is very dear to western governments, the royals and all intel agencies. They don’t want to see any questions raised about it, you just need to keep quivering with guilt or goose stepping, one or the other will do fine.

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