72 thoughts on “If Russia and Germany were to join forces, what then? (4 min. video)

  1. ojalá tuviera razón!

    world united against pandemic is the world saved.

    sergei strizhak who made this clip is a sort of russian ingmar bergman and i am told his Play of God’s (Igry Bogov) cycle is prohibited in the west (no translation or commercial distribution) due to “extremism”.

    this is why he must use the code word “nomads” in the clip, but every russian knows exactly who they are.

    i really should make an effort to learn as much russian as spanish, it seems like that’s where the action is …

    circassian, have you heard of this stuff?

  2. Gee, I almost felt like I was watching the movie “Thrive”. I suppose it would be too blunt to say the word “Jew” as the eternal cause of mayhem, eh? Didn’t really get the point of the video as to why Russia and Germany should feel so special about each other. I will say many Russian gentiles came in at the end of WWII and raped and plundered Germany upon request by Jews. Germany is the only country to unequivaically name the Jew as the cause and do something about it but all the rest of the Jew guided goyim prefer to believe the “culture wreckers”. Germany basically had a gun to it’s head at the end of WWII and was asked the question, “Did the holocaust happen”, and they said “Yes”

  3. Documentary extract from film No. 7 published on Aug 7, 2014

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl8RGLTMosc

    Russian and German people have lots in common. They are similar in their spirit, their values, their views of life. Unfortunately in the past they’ve been divided and forced into confrontation. They’ve been set apart and made enemy. Fortunately with the beginning of a new era the two great nations have a chance to unite and change the world for the better. The global awakening helps people to realise that the humanity has one common enemies – The Dark Directors, who organise all the wars and revolutions in the world, but always stay behind the scene. Strizhak calls them “nomads”, the ones who “proliferated around the world as a malignant tumor metastases”.
    When German Wolf and Russian Bear get together – the world will turn over.

    An extract from a documentary by Crimean film maker Sergey Strizhak – “Crimea. The Rusian Sea.” (2014) – an extended 9 parts project about Crimean peninsula, its history and less known facts, its mysteries and hidden secrets.

    This episode is from film No. 7 dedicated to the Second World War and severe battles in Crimea.

    1. The global awakening helps people to realise that the humanity has one common enemy – The Dark Directors, who organise all the wars and revolutions in the world, but always stay behind the scene. Strizhak calls them “nomads”, the ones who “proliferated around the world as a malignant tumor metastases”.

      he must be thinking of the hungarians … or is it belgians, not so sure any more.
      will wait til spielberg makes a movie where they will be identified.

  4. The Jew, Schlomo Asch, in a pep talk to French troops in the line in Le Nouvelles Litteraires (10 February 1940) wrote:

    ‘This is our war and you are fighting it for us. Even if we Jews are not bodily in the trenches we are nevertheless morally with you.’

    On 8 October 1942 Sentinel magazine stated unequivocally:

    ‘The Second World War is being fought for the defence and fundamentals of Judaism.’

    1. Even if we Jews are not bodily in the trenches we are nevertheless morally with you.

      and laughing all the way to the bank, while goys are bodily in the graves.

  5. This is nonsense. Russia is the enemy of Europe.

    Russians are like Germans? LOL! Russia is basically a third-world country. Most Russians live no better than Mexicans.

    In the end it’s pointless though, as neither “Germany” nor “Russia” exist as political entities anyway.

  6. The world will start seeing change when Germany drops the dollar and aligns with the Bric nations. Germany has had it with the US/DC Corporation/dollar and there is absolutely no reason they should remain aligned financially speaking with the US. But, as usual, this is another illusion because Brics and the Dollar are both controlled by the City of London Corp (elite Jews) and when they switch sides so will the EU because the EU is controlled financially through Germany and Germany through the City of London Corp. Then the US, “Israel”, the UK and Colonies will be facing the EU- Brics alliance just like the “Jews” want it– the entire white world, former Christendom divided and fighting to our common destruction again.

    So, the solution isn’t Germany and Russia uniting— its the entire white/Christian world thinking in terms of all of their brother nations as their brothers and not as enemies. The solution that must happen and will happen is when whites and Christians in Britain, Colonies, America, Europe, Scandinavia, Eastern Europe and Russia all start thinking of themselves as brothers because after all,what ties us all together is that we are not only genetically brothers (being sub-racial elements of the white race) but that we are also spiritual brothers being closer to each other than all others due to all of us being former and/or current Christians of a previously united Christendom.

    The video is right and the awakening is already happening. However, the real change will not happen until the dust settles and whites all over the planet look around to see who brought these disasters upon us all. Then, and only then will there will be no more denying the truth of the matter because the only one who will have gained at our destruction will be clearly and rightly seen as the “Jews” who erected a Global Control Matrix out of “Israel” where all the criminals Jews ran to when they pulled the plug on the white world. At this point no white person wherever he lives will deny it because everyone will plainly see that it is ONLY the “Jews” who sit atop this pyramid. All whites will see that is ONLY the “Jew” who now possess wealth having transfered all of the white worlds assets to “israel” as their concocted WW3 went full blown.

    At this point we must and will unite to march on “Israel” in order to serve justice upon the thieving, mass murdering “Jews” as we take back with is lawfully, what is rightly ours- ZION (World Gov and the Land)!!

    1. Tyron –

      “…Brics and the Dollar are both controlled by the City of London Corp (elite Jews)…”

      EGG-ZAK-LEE..!!

  7. I can understand the connection. Germany and Russia share a rail economy. It is the new silk road. Russia has the gas, Germany has the technical expertise–the best cars in the world, the most advanced infrastructure, etc. The Romanov family was German. They have that even deeper connection of sharing the same hidden enemy because the “nomads” tried to wipe both peoples off the map. It is a matter of time until the lies erode, wash away out to sea, can’t put them back together. The Germans are very upright and until 9 11 they believed totally in the West, but with the 2008 banking crisis they had to realize that the west was no longer the best. Then came the scandal of America’s spy machine. Germans aren’t suppose to wake up to the lies but how can they avoid it because it cuts so deep into their own personal histories. Russians know with a cynicism that has broken out of the boundaries of civility. Now we have to wrest the American war machine free from these horrible people and then what will happen. Then these old farts will have to probably try to kill us because that is all they know how to do. Let them try. The old fools.

    1. well said, kapoore, as always.

      i spent some time in germany this summer and in my brief conversations with people middle age and over, this sense is pervasive, they are smelling the rat big time.

      i would assume that the prevalence of cynicism among the younger set, pussy riot tattooed morons aside, is even higher.
      and it is not just the prevalence but i would hope the exponential incidence.

      and spqr, so long as you toss in everyone and the kitchen sink into the “common enemy” pot, the real common enemy is given a free stalking horse for further devastation.

      who is behind 911, iraq, afghanistan, behind jfk murder, lavon affair, chemtrails, gmo-food and farm destruction, pushing hard for the ww3 as well as the silent bio-war (lab made pathogens, conversion of food crops to biofuel, sterile crops) which will wipe out not just tens of millions, not just hundreds of millions but billions?

      yeah, russians.
      or is it negroes maybe?
      no, i got it.
      muslims and assorted muds.
      there is a name for them, might as well use it because it wraps up the deal – islamofascists

      maybe worth looking into those who coined the term, kfir alfia, alan lipton and “khalid duran” (probably russians, all of them)

      re. khalid duran:
      He never went to any educational institution in Morocco and Bosnia. In Pakistan he spent three years at the missionary training college (Jami’a Ahmadiyya) of the Ahmadiyya at Rabwah. His dissertation mentioned above about Ahmad Amin was rejected by the University of Berlin. He never obtained the degree of Docotor of Philosophy from any university. This is not the only forgery on his part regarding his biography. “Khalid Durán” is not his original name, which happens to be “Detlev Häussler”. In fact he used half a dozen different names during the course of his life which is full of deception and concoction. He invented his own geneology. He was born in Berlin of German parentage which he now denies. He invented a Morrocan father, who he said was adopted by a German family, which is absolutely false. Than he made his German mother to be of Spanish extraction.

      good luck on winning the war in which you don’t have a clue who the enemy is (“they are all enemies, all 7 billion of them”)

    2. who is behind the term islamofascist?
      the common enemy.

      who is behind the femen-pussy riot slut desecrators of christianity and publicly thanking bomber harris on the anniversary of dresden firebombing?
      the common enemy.

  8. if russia and germany joined forces?
    after russia killed 25 million germans in ww2?
    a got a better idea palesnians and the jews who invaded palestine and named iot -so called- “israel”
    would join forces we would kick all arabs who commited treason on us and the american asses.
    aaaah it would be so nice for the Jews who invaded Palestine and named it -so called- “Israel” to finally realize that we, Palestinians may -may be- be Jews that became Christians and then later became -forced to- became Muslims. We would join forces and defeat Egypt and Jordan and Syria and Lebanon. Wait! They are already defeated!
    Gosh!
    Anyways,
    I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE 1000 CHRISTIAN AMERICAN SLAVES FANNING ME WITH PAPYROS AND SUCKING on MY FEET
    THE WAY AMERICAN SENATORS AND US ARMY SOLDIER DO TO THE Jews who invaded Palestine and named it -so called- “Israel” TODAY.
    American slave soldiers who bend over every time their national anthem plays
    It would be nice to see the kkk guys here at Darkmoon get together and attack the white house
    Wait! They re old farts!
    lol my dna screams “i used to be a jew”

  9. russian history lessons as opposed to the usual hasbara
    lesson 1
    and
    lesson 2

    subtitles button 4th from the lower right corner.

    i just started on the first one, 1/2 way through and thought it useful to alert others who are interested in something other than the usual kol nidre propaganda that invariably smears the innocent and protects the guilty.

    1. money quote (1st video, at 07:16, fixed the subtitles grammatically a tiny bit):

      <If someone even without academic knowledge of history tries to analyze the myth cycles and during what period they appeared, he will find out that each new spin starts at the point when Russia becomes a strong state

    2. lobro

      I hope darkmoon readers look at these two invaluable videos and at least get closer to a conclusion that Putin is nobody’s stooge simply doing his bit for the Russian slice of the JWO pie

      The parallel between he and the Emperor Paul should be obvious. Parallel lines that are still in motion I might add. Stay tuned for outcome. Whereas parallel lines which have already run their course involve two distinct moments in history

      1) the jewish subterfuge preventing a link-up between Paul and Napoleon which would have opened the gateway to the East and taken control of England’s “jewel in the crown”.

      And perhaps the 2nd one goes back to your musings on a “woulda-coulda-shoulda” link-up of Germany and Russia in the 20th Century to accomplish the same?

  10. Germany joining forces with Russia is nothing but wishful thinking, even though that would be the wisest thing that Germany could ever do. Germany has lost its cojones, even Turkey (notwithstanding that it is a NATO member) has more of it today.

    Long time ago Stalin has tried to convey to Hitler his belief that Russia and Germany should be, and could be the rightful heirs of the British Empire. It is quite possible that the biggest error of judgment ever made by Stalin was the trust he put on Hitler. Hitler looked up to the Brits, and down to the Russians. And we all know how that worked out for him, and for the German people at large.

    Putin is not likely to commit that blunder again. That is why we have BRICS, and not BRIGS.

    There are some bright young fellows there in Germany though. For example, this German blogger is convinced that Russia is the only country in the world today that could help Germany to end the 69 old occupation. This fellow knows even that Stalin was against splitting Germany in 1945; he goes on to say that Germany has to be grateful to Stalin that the country was split into two parts only, and not dozen of small pieces.

    1. Germany joining forces with Russia is nothing but wishful thinking, even though that would be the wisest thing that Germany could ever do.

      Only if successive revolutions took place in Germany and Russia and established pro-White governments in both nations, and if the Jews in both nations were ruthlessly massacred, not allowed to leave so they can cause trouble elsewhere.

      Long time ago Stalin has tried to convey to Hitler his belief that Russia and Germany should be, and could be the rightful heirs of the British Empire.

      Hitler had no interest in building an empire outside of Europe. If Hitler’s Table Talk is accurate, this is what he said on the subject:

      What India was for England, the territories of Russia will be
      for us. If only I could make the German people understand
      what this space means for our future! Colonies are a precarious
      possession, but this ground is safely ours. Europe is
      not a geographic entity, it’s a racial entity. We understand now
      why the Chinese shut themselves up behind a wall to protect
      themselves against the eternal attacks of the Mongols. One could
      sometimes wish that a huge wall might protect the new territories
      of the East against the masses of Central Asia; but that’s
      contrary to the teachings of history. The fact is that a too great
      feeling of security provokes, in the long run, a relaxation of
      forces. I think the best wall will always be a wall of human
      breasts !

      It is quite possible that the biggest error of judgment ever made by Stalin was the trust he put on Hitler.

      When did Stalin ever trust Hitler?

      Hitler looked up to the Brits, and down to the Russians.

      He didn’t look up to the Brits, he correctly saw the Brits as the racial kin of the Germans, which they were.

      And we all know how that worked out for him, and for the German people at large.

      And how did Stalin work out for Russia? Millions of murdered intellectuals, aristocrats, artists, and thinkers, everyone who opposed the jew. Many of their families were murdered as well so as to annihilate their bloodlines. That’s why Russia is the backwards pit of degeneracy it is today.

      Putin is not likely to commit that blunder again. That is why we have BRICS, and not BRIGS.

      Oh yes isn’t that just like Bolshevik Russia to side with third world states and communist China against the West.

      There are some bright young fellows there in Germany though. For example, this German blogger is convinced that Russia is the only country in the world today that could help Germany to end the 69 old occupation.

      Yeah, and Putin will just install a bunch of Jews to run Germany (to replace the Jews that currently run Germany), build statues to Lenin, and bring in the Central Asian Muslims to fill Germany’s cities and towns to establish his filthy Eurasian Superstate.

      This fellow knows even that Stalin was against splitting Germany in 1945; he goes on to say that Germany has to be grateful to Stalin that the country was split into two parts only, and not dozen of small pieces.

      Right, Germany should be grateful to the leader who helped destroy everything they built. Good logic.

      1. I agree with you legionnaire about Stalin. Beats me where Circassian is coming from. To me, the only thing Stalin cared about was himself, and staying in his position of psuedo-power as a useful idiot to the jews. And to say Stalin was a jew is irrelevant for all intents and purposes. He was the classic self-aggrandizing megalomaniac. You know, how the victors characterized Hitler.

        But I think you’re missing the boat by in effect, assigning the same character traits to Putin.

        “oh yes, isn’t that just like bolshevik Russia to side with third world states and communist china against the west.”

        Don’t you suppose Putin and the Chinese know what the “west’s” intentions are against them? Who in their right mind wouldn’t ally themselves accordingly? The appearance of Putin’s working with the jews is pure political expediency. A process of de-lousing can’t be done in a day no more than building Rome. The jews may think they got Putin where they want him, just like Hitler before, but why are you so insistent in lumping him in with the soul-selling Stalin?

      2. Brownhawk:

        You say that delousing can’t be done in a day, but Putin has been in power for 14 years. When exactly is he going to make his grand move? The guy is 62 years old; he won’t be around forever. If he’s so clever and powerful why doesn’t he do a damn thing about the Jews? What’s he waiting for? Like I said before, the Jew would never let one of the world’s biggest nuclear stockpiles fall into the hands of patriots.

      3. SPQR

        I for one never said Putin was “so clever and powerful”. And 14 years or 140 years, his cleverness will only take him so far towards being powerful, given the depth and breadth of what he’s up against.

        The nuclear stockpile argument?

        Do we know for a fact that this has ever existed at all? I have serious doubts. Could it be that all along this has been the great “fulcrum phantom of fear”, suggesting all there could ever be is “conventional” war?

        Interesting, no?

  11. I notice in the comments of the naysayers that they look to a weakened Germany/Russia..they don’t live any better than Mexicans. So let’s just brush it off. That sounds strangely neo-connish to me. I listened to the neo-cons on talk radio for three years until I finally woke up to the fact 9 11 was not a terrorist attack by the Muslims. I have internalized the neo-con cadence, the dismissals.. it’s like a literary accent. All I can say is that the neo-cons are wrong in every way it’s possible to be wrong. And they are wrong that Germany won’t turn to Russia. Hmm just a couple of years ago I remember France getting edgy that Germany was uniting. Then the Jews got edgy that Germany might be going back into the neo-nazi thing and that is when those drastic anti-holocaust denial laws were passed. Now the neo-cons are nervous about Russia gaining power in Syria/Iran/Ukraine thus that bellicose and obviously out in the open coup. RIGHT!! Nothing to fear from a combined Eurasian axis of power based on mutual economic benefit and a trillion “de-dollared” trade through rail corridors–not one but several. Yah…go ahead join the neocon marching band… Just because Russian/Germany have to slip loose from the grasp of bankster/oligarchic control doesn’t mean they won’t be able to do it eventually. (I call it marching band because there is a neo-con who hums his military music going into his show…just like a little boy with his toy army making the truck sounds….how weird can you get)

    I feel dead in the water around liars and I feel alive around the truth tellers. I don’t want to feel dead, so I can’t be bought. This is why they (neo-cons, elders, and ziozombies) have to resort to thuggery and violence time and again. They have nothing to sell that anyone wants and everyone is SOO ..sick of them and sick from them like a poison.

  12. As far as the subject production goes, I’m sure it ‘feels good’. What concerns me, as an
    American, is that those ‘nomads’ have become so inbred among us that Russia seems to forget THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO THEM. Moreover, Germany is so intertwined with our own military, too, that distinctions can be very vague. Ditto, Russia. Unless there is a military coup orchestrated between the military PTB, there will be another World War orchestrated by the ‘Jew’ (Dark Power), and we’ll ALL be worse-off even than we are, now.

    And (Americans, especially), do not forget there seems to be an accelerating agenda to ‘Islamacize’ Europe, Britain, and North America. Say what you will about how we brought it upon ourselves, etc…. It seems we may have to ALLY with Israel, after all, if we are going to arrest that progress. What is, IS. Whether Russian, Jew, Arab, Chinese – whatever – a group who threatens us is our ENEMY. Be careful what you wish for. Americans are very good at killing – or, at least, VERY GOOD AT BLOWING THINGS UP. (So are the Germans and Russian soldiers trained by some of my friends, RIGHT HERE IN THE GOOD ‘OL USA.)

    1. Germany and Russia should not Muslim minorities to begin with. And they are not fighting wars against them, they are brining the swarthy untermenschen in by the millions.

      1. ever look at the map of russia?

        less than 10% of it is in europe, and yet it inspires loyalty and patriotic zeal in all its people to a far greater extent than america, where it is down to drunken morons yelling usa! usa! at football games, the rest more worried about property taxes than whether their fellow compatriots die of lack of medical attention by the curbside.

        genetically and ethnically, the (white) russians and germans do share a hell of a lot more both in blood and culture than germans and the brits, who for centuries have relied on plunder of the faraway lands for prosperity.
        germans and central europeans make their own, anglos steal that of others, this is the simple, sad calculus that separates them even today.

      2. ever look at the map of russia?

        less than 10% of it is in Europe

        And that’s where the vast majority of its population lives.

        and yet it inspires loyalty and patriotic zeal in all its people to a far greater extent than america,

        Russians are unacquainted with patriotism. Russians accept whatever despot happens to rule over them at any given time. That’s not patriotism, that’s servility, which is an Asiatic trait.

        where it is down to drunken morons yelling usa! usa! at football games,

        Drunken morons are what most Russian males are. There’s a reason why Russian females long to marry the first foreigner they see.

        the rest more worried about property taxes than whether their fellow compatriots die of lack of medical attention by the curbside.

        Things are hardly better in Russia, which I believe has one of the lowest life expectancies for any “European” nation.

        genetically and ethnically, the (white) russians and germans do share a hell of a lot more both in blood and culture than germans and the brits,

        No. The British are a Germanic people. Russians aren’t. All that Russia had in common with Germany ended in 1917 when the Jews exterminated Russia’s Germanic elite.

        who for centuries have relied on plunder of the faraway lands for prosperity.

        There’s nothing wrong with plundering faraway lands; the problem was that, with the British, it was done at the behest of the Jew.

        germans and central europeans make their own, anglos steal that of others, this is the simple, sad calculus that separates them even today.

        I’m not a fan of Anglos either, but claiming that Germans and Russians have more in common than Germans and Brits is simply incorrect.

        This is all moot though. Germany can’t do anything. Its filled with millions of Muslims and US military bases. Germany is still under occupation. Germany answers to Washington D.C., which means it answers to the Jew. German politicians are puppets. The country doesn’t even have a constitution. Do we honestly think Germany is just going to break away from Europe and join Russia?

  13. There is a lot of confusion about Hitler and Stalin in the heads of commenters here. To clear up the confusion all an honest mind needs is to ask a simple question, and answer that question impartially. The question is: How could Hitler come to power in all but annihilated Germany in 1933 (i.e. exactly at the time when it became absolutely clear that purging of Jews from power in the USSR by Stalin was unstoppable), and what was the purpose of the mastermind who brought him to power?

    A simple question should have a simple answer: Hitler was a British project, the task assigned to the attack dog was to attack the Soviet Union, which he did dutifully.

    And the error of judgment committed by Stalin was that he imagined that Hitler managed to slip out of British control. But, evidently, the thoroughly Judaized British elites had Hitler by his cojones and could brought him down any time if he were to attempt to escape from their clutches.

    If you don’t understand this you will not understand what is going on in the world today. The mastermind is looking today for another attack dog to unleash against pesky Russia who is the only force in the world today capable of upsetting the plans for Anglo-Jewish unipolar world order.

    1. We can agree to disagree on the particulars, Circassian. Will we ever know the full truth of the WW2 Era?

      Your last sentence however represents the important focal point

    2. Circassian

      You assign to Stalin power he never had. After WWI the jew’s creation of a Soviet Union gave them total control “lock, stock and barrel”. That was a done deal, but not necessarily so regarding Germany

      Hitler and Stalin were both well aware of a master-manipulator underneath the whole stinking pile, but Stalin’s position could be nothing but “passive-aggressive” – no wiggle room between HIS rock and a hard place. Whereas the manipulation of Hitler, who like Stalin KNEW they were both being played, was of a different nature given the particular dynamics of the situation.

      It wasn’t a matter of Stalin trusting Hitler, but more a case of “let’s see what Hitler does given that between us HE is the only one with any “wiggle room”. And far from acting dutifully for the “British” project (which it was), the success of the manipulation can be traced directly back to Mein Kampf (the “trigger point” for the sub-pile dwellers in knowing they had their man)

      To put it in a nutshell, you could say Stalin’s “hope” (insofar as to whatever degree he cared, being so stuck between the rock and the hard place), was for Hitler to have a necessary “lightbulb moment” that never came. Unfortunately and ironically, the “ossification” he ascribed to Russia turned out to be his own.

      Now, Putin is Hitler in this paralleled historical position at the end of the master manipulator’s strings.

      The question is:

      Will the puppeteer make the puppet dance to his tune all the way through, or will the puppet cut the strings and become his own dancer when the orchestra is ready to play the whole symphony?

  14. Hitler and Stalin

    Gezz, if people could just get pass their programming and see the world as a control matrix that’s tightening day by day, There is only two portions of the belief that Hitler was a Jewish agent trained at Tavistock I am willing to conceded and that is, Hitler went off the reservation at some point but honestly, I don’t think the evidence supports this notion. The only part I thing of the Nazis being a true counter force I support is found in the implications that are suggested in the story of Operation High Jump. This operation seems to suggest that it wasn’t Hitler who went off the reservation but other elements of the Nazi’s who did. Why do I say this?

    Because if one entertains the belief of Hitler being in league with the City of London it would explain every utterly retarded move he made from Dunkirk onward. It would explain why he transferred the “Jews” to Palestine and not say, Madagascar. It would explain why British Intel informed Hitler of every German Nationalist plot to assassinate him. It would also explain why he spent the remainder of his life in Argentina as western intel knew very well.

    However, when it comes to Antarctica, this is another matter. If one does research on base 211. If one does research on Admiral Byrd and his “expedition”, if they were to research the “UFO” wars in the 50s, reports of the Brits nuking base 211 and the subsequent Antarctic treaty of I believe 58 or 62, they would see that if true, it explains a lot of why people hold onto the “Nazis were a true opposition force”.

    I surmise that Hitler was a control op but there may well have been an element of high ranking Nazis who broke with the “corrupt” element and took over base 211. Call me crazy but I do believe the Nazi’s made it to the moon in 42 and Mars in 45 through one of the Hannubu anti gravity discs. I think they did create an all ethnically “Aryan” city in Antarctica and may have colonies on the Moon and Mars. Why else do we see structures on both the Moon and Mars with huge Swastikas painted on top?

    In summary, the evidence is overwhelming to me that Hitler was a control op to facilitate the destruction of Germany while paving the way for the elite Jews to build their JWO out of “Israel”. I also think that elements inside their ranks could see the writing on the wall, got together and took over base 211, forbidding Hitler to escape there as they went about mounting a last defense against the rest of the allies (firmly in control of the west and Russia) using all of the high tech devises, including anti gravity to colonize the solar system.

    Call me crazy but this theory of mine explains pretty much everything, especially all of the hidden history and black operations over the last 80 years.

    1. Like I said to Circassian, Tyron, we can agree to disagree on the particulars. And I gotta give you credit for being a thinker coming up with the most SEEMINGLY bizarre theories. In this regard we are kindred spirits 😉

      Meantime, I’m off to look at lobro’s Russian video links, as I listen to “Pictures at an Exhibition”

      1. BrownHawk

        Yes, we can agree to disagree. I just think the topic of the Nazi’s shangrila is one of the most interesting subjects I’ve ever studied. I started to write a screen play on the subject back around 2008 before the Hitler Channel starting speaking about it to the masses. An author friend of mine dropped out which put the project on the shelf. Here are some things to consider.

        1. Hitler, like many creation scientists of the 19th century believed in a hollow earth.
        2. The Germans claimed a huge section of Antartica for themselves- also finding areas that have warm climates with lots of vegitation growing with underwater tunnels, cave systems their subs could transverse to enter it from the coast. They planned to construct a colony and also a secret base (211) there in league with inner world peoples.
        3. The Nazi’s did indeed have anti gravity vehicals. A UFO reportedly crashed in Bavaria in 38 on Eva Braun’s family farm of all places. The Nazi’s reversed engineered the technology coming up with a varitey of anti gravity machines- Vril and later Hannubu. Evidently, conventional weapons couldn’t be deployed on them so they also had to come up with new weapons that didn’t exert kickback. Because of this they were not deployed much against Allied aircraft except to disrupt their electronics.
        4. The Germans found the most pure Aryan stock they could (mostly from Baltics, Norway etc) and sent them to Antartican to populate their “New Berlin”.
        5. During the last years of the war a full 1 or 2/3rds of the German GNP went to the New Swabia project.
        6. A huge portion of German Sub activity during WW2 was centered South of South Africa.
        7. Admiral Doentz boasted that he had created a shangrila the allies could never penetrate.
        8. A month or so after Germany surrendered an American surface fleet encountered a pack (some 30-40) of U-Boats off the west coast of Africa heading south. The wolf pack decimate the American fleet and countined south. American Intel admitted after the war that they have never accounted for some 40 U Boats they knew were still out there. 2 showed up later in South America, reported by investigtors to have contiained Hitler and Eve who spent the rest of their life in a pre constructed state of the art Hotel on an Island off the east coast of Argentina. Released FBI files admit they knew Hitler was there.
        9. Operation High Jump in 47 had Admiral Byrd going to Antartica with an a small fleet incuding an Aircraft Carrier, Subs etc, some 4000 Sailors supposedly to search for minerals to mine. Some say the British and Russians also sent personnel, ships etc.
        10. A fight broke out where its claimed that anti gravity vehicals would pop up out of the ocean, right in the middle of the fleet and that they used some type of high energy weapons to attack the ships. Evidently, these UFOs crippled the fleet and forced them to withdraw.
        11. Byrd is quoted in South American Newspapers after this saying that he was going to Washington to warn them that the next war will be against flying machines that can travel from pole to pole at incredible speeds.
        12.Forrestal decided to go public with this knowledge in 49 and was “suicided” at Bethesda. Even after a squadron of UFOs parked over the White House for a 1/2 hour in 52, a decison was made to continue keeping the knowledge of the Nazi and “others” out there with anti gravity technology top secret.
        13. A “UFO” war commensed over America in 52. Here are the American aircraft losses
        Year -Air Force – Navy Losses
        1952 2,274 2,086
        1953 2,075 2,325
        1954 1,873 1,911
        1955 1,664 1,566
        1956 1,530 1,358
        14. It is reported that the British nuked base 211 in the 50s which brought about the ended of this conflict in I believe 58 with the Antartic treaty that bans all military activity on the continent BENEATH 60 degrees S. It came into full force in 61 and was reportly ended in 2011 where the war is ongoing down there today.
        15. Byrd wrote a diary where he speaks of being captured by the Nazis and brought to see the “master” underheath a city in Antiartica he described as “right out of Buck Rodgers”. He was released so he could warn “those who control the surface world”. Byrd was murdered in 57 supposedly to keep him from publishing this diary. In 88 his son is found dead in an abandoned Warehouse in Baltimore. Reportedly, he had pushed to get his Dad’s diary published too. Interestly, one can only find it on line and no one has copyrights on the material which btw allows the Feds to still prosecute anyone who quotes it for violating copyright legal codes.

        Admiral Byrd’s Diary

        http://www.admiralbyrddiary.com/

        Russian Documentary- Operation High Jump, Admiral Byrd

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NAGVHYenQ4

    2. @ Tyron Parsons

      “…Call me crazy but……”

      I do call you crazy!
      I’m not going to waste my time trying to refute your delusions, you are incurable!

      1. Franklin –
        I believe I remember you saying just that…long ago.

        Whew..!!

        Richard Hoagland admitted the NASA fakery in a radio broadcasted debate with Jim Collier in 1997, on Art Bell’s program. I taped it live. Gave the tape away. Collier died of pancreatic cancer shortly after. I spoke with him just before he died. He was going to Congress with his proofs.

        Hoagland, as the NASA and CBS liaison agent, admitted that he and Cronkite had two fake moonwalk sets, supposedly to switch to when live signal was lost. One in Houston and one in Virginia.

        Here is a portion.
        Hoagland Collier Debate on Art Bell in 1997:
        https://archive.org/details/1997-08-20CoastToCoastAmWithArtBellDidWeGoToTheMoonDebate

        Here is some of Collier’s great research and ‘Vote Scam’ work:

        VOTESCAM
        THE STEALING OF
        AMERICA
        JAMES M. COLLIER
        KENNETH E COLLIER

        http://www.constitution.org/vote/votescam-.txt
        Victoria House Press, 67 Wall Street, New York, NY 10005
        Copyright 1992 © by James M. Collier
        ISBN: 0-9634165-0-8
        Library of Congress Catalogue Number 93-093814

      2. re: Hoagland’s debate.

        Hoagland states, ridiculously, a few minutes into the debate that the moon landings took place in the ‘morning’ when the surface temperatures were cooler than in afternoon. THERE IS NO ‘MORNING’ on the moon!! It does NOT rotate on its axis every 24 hours. LOL!!! There is more, but most will miss them.

        It is 280 deg F.

      3. @ Pat

        “Many scientists have responded to Hoagland’s claims and assertions. Professional astronomer Phil Plait described Hoagland as a pseudoscientist and his claims as ridiculous.”

        Source : Wikipedia, Richard C. Hoagland.

      4. Franklin –

        That is what I have found as well. He is a NASA apologist and dis-info agent.

        If you listened to any of the mp3 you can tell he makes it up as he goes and attempts to baffle with bullshit.

  15. “Why else do – WE- see structures on both the Moon and Mars with huge Swastikas painted on top?”

    Disclaimer: WE does not include ME.

  16. Tyron Parsons –

    THAT is some damn interesting stuff you relate, here! Assuming it is true (for I have no way to substantiate or negate the claims), I have to wonder about the records of the Air Force/Navy aircraft losses you contend occurred between 1952 and 1956. By counting, it seems that AT LEAST 17,000 personnel (considering that all aircraft had, at least, a pilot – and some probably had co-pilots and some crew) were lost. Do you know if any family or friends ask questions which were denied or suspiciously answered? That number accounts for a LOT of highly-trained individuals, who would have been missed…

    1. And – considering his high-profile among Americans – is there any record of Werner von Braun’s knowledge or complicity?

      1. The downing of the air crafts were always chalked up as pilot error or maintenance problems. As long as the public is unaware of of these battles no one would suspect anything. I’m sure the pilots who survived were told to keep their mouth shut for national security reasons. It’s a policy that is really still in place today, even for airline pilots in America. If they make reports their grounded or fired.

        As far as Werner goes, people who knew him said that he was aware of this technology and that he had worked on some of the projects commenting once “we had help” developing it as he pointed his finger upward. Just before the end of WW2 the Germans knew full well the Russians and Americans would plunder their high tech secrets so they organized infiltration efforts especially in regard to the US so that later after they were forced to work for the allies they could act as a 5th column of sorts using them toward their ends. Werner was also to have stated on his death bed something along the lines of “the next war will be against terrorism, then against asteroids with the last act against an alien invasion” It seems so far he is right.

        I didn’t mention this before but I believe the US went to the Moon in the early 50s, the Russians did next with American landing their version of the Hannubu on Mars in the early 60s. Again, this might seem overboard to some who have never investigated these things or to those who have never seen an anti gravity devise (I did when I was 10) but these things are real, I can assure you. The only thing I am positive of concerning Antarctica is that the Nazis had a base there, the American fought with them- the UFO wars did happen and there was a treaty. Beyond that I don’t know for sure but I do believe that there are two types of space programs going on. One is above top secret, black ops, and the others are the ones that everyone sees (rockets, satellites, space shuttle etc) and this one is purely for world public consumption. It is interesting to note that the “master” that Byrd reportedly met said that there was no stopping the destruction of America because of the evil greed of those who controlled her (obviously the “Jews”). He relayed in Byrd’s purported diary that in the end, some of us (meaning founding stock Americans) would survive and win and that after it was over, they would come out and help us rebuild the country. Who is this “master”? I have a good guess.

        Here is a video concerning Apollo 20. There were originally 20 missions planned but NASA said that due to public disinterest, they cancelled the last 3. Supposedly the Russians and Americans flew with one another in a secret Apollo 20 mission to retrieve Alien technology on the Moon. This was released by a person claiming to ex military who had inside knowledge of this. He put it on the net some 6 or so years ago while he was hiding out in Africa. If this video is fake then someone has a lot of money to throw away simply to fool people on the net.

        Apollo 20 Mission (HD Long Version)

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTM5Qf0mO_Y

        Here is a link to pics of Swastikas on the Moon and Mars.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjxd6XPM50I

      2. Thank you, Tyron. Your explanation fits very well with something related to me about twenty years ago by a former director of Air Traffic Control for (won’t say). The UFO’s certainly DO exist; and, yes, even commercial pilots who have encountered them (mostly while going over the Poles) are admonished to keep quiet about it.

        Something about von Braun, too: It was a VERY high-priority for the U.S. to get him out of Germany before anyone else got to him. 🙂

  17. THERE IS NO ‘MORNING’ on the moon!!

    pat, allow me to think about this for a moment, i am neither astronomer nor astrologer …
    is it true that there is a “dark side of the moon” (lasha, i know you know the answer but please keep quiet)?

    if so, then even as the earth spins, the moon keeps the exact same face turned to the earth and the invisible portion must be exposed to the sun every 24h … is that so?
    since the earth facing side shines every so often, like 2 days ago, it means that every 2 weeks it gets sunshine that is reflected to earth (full moon) alternating with total darkness (zero moon).
    so that side gets a morning of sorts every 2 weeks.

    hoagland is no scientist but on the other hand even a broken clock is right twice a day (and therefore once every 2 weeks).

    1. Lobro –

      Did you listen to him on the mp3 saying that? (just before the first break)
      If not, you might want to hear it in context. He even added “before NOON.”

      The sun directly overhead on the moon, once every 28 days for the same location, is not referred to as ‘NOON.’

      Not a really good guess from you this time. Nice try, though. 😉

    2. BTW –

      I am no mathematician… but…every 28 days is 4 weeks…not 2. The movement is not the same as a clock. Even on earth, the sunrises only one time a solar day, while the clock spins twice in that same time, 24 hours.

      1. yea i caught onto that as soon as i posted but it was too late.
        like i said, i was no astronomer then nor am i one now (maybe a tiny bit more because i understand that lunar day is 28 earth days not 14, so my 2’s must be replaced by 4’s (2+2 sort of thing).

        anyway, it is a mystery to me that they were able to line up that moonshot when all the earth’s computing power was less than a cheap phone today, dudes running around with greasy clipboards, checking, doublechecking and never being quite sure they got the decimals right.

      2. and though a mathematician (ex), i am terrible with actual number manipulation, the world’s most cheated man at checkouts, every sweaty 200 lb housewife counts much better and quicker than i.

      3. All is well…. I’m ‘on board’ the slower thinking train, myself these days.

        It is funny that the Commodore 64 in 1980(I still have mine) had more capabilities than NASA’s computers at the time.

        BTW – NASA is still trying to develop a spacesuit to allow humans(any animals) to go into space, outside Van Allen Belts. Soft body tissue cannot hold up to the massive radiation of the Solar Wind and numerous other cosmic sources.

    3. I did a quick check of moonwalker pics…

      Most of them were taken with very little or NO shadows cast, no matter whether ‘morning’ or ‘noon’ way up there. That means maximum heat of 273 deg F. on the lunar surface, and on cameras’ surfaces, which was the point of this conversation.

      02.20.12
      New images acquired by NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) spacecraft show that the moon’s crust is being slightly stretched, forming small valleys – at least in some small areas. High-resolution images obtained by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC) provide evidence that these valleys are very young, suggesting the moon has experienced relatively recent geologic activity.

      Moon Facts
      + The surface temperature at the equator during the day is 134oC (273o F), and at night is – 153o C (244o F)

      http://lunar.gsfc.nasa.gov/moonfacts.html

  18. Russians have not always been honest about history, war-crimes, etc. Also, something is not quiet clear about the Holocaust according to the Russian version. Their national pride is based in beating the Germans but they do not admit their own cruelties, committed under the guidance of all to often Jewish commissaries (coincidence?). The Russians wanted among many other things conquer entire Europe up to the coast of France (the Americans came late in the Game as the war was already lost… and only made sure the Russians could not overrun Europe up to France, and certainly have not liberated Germany).

    In Auschwitz the chimney has o attachment to the cremation oven and was build after the war by Russians, plus the Gas chambers were in the middle of all other activities, and the gassd body would have killed those who handle the dead bodies too in a short time. Anyway, unless the Holocaust files are brought out in the open without falsifications… and the Russians admit their own wrong doing there is no union possible as much as that would be an otherwise wise choice to make. The Russians have to admit their own doings, wanting, and cruelties they committed as they listened to monsters and demons like Ilja Ehrenburg, one of the most evil person who ever walked planet earth, and he gets honored in Israel the master liar (there is o love for humanity in their Zionist versions of wanting power over others).

    I just watched the movie Hellstorm by Thomas Goodrich’s ‘Hellstorm’ subtitled “The Death of Nazi Germany 1944-1947”. The book can be ordered at Amazon.com for those who are interested in real history.

    Hellstorm was worse than any Holocaust he says the author on the Video and the world knows nothing about it, lacks compassion about it and thinks that the average German deserved this cruelty and perversion the allies unleashed beyond words. Only the most perverted of all living demons can be that cruel as these kind of words show that there is no morality and ethical standards left within a society. Plus, who knows that Adolf Hitler made over 17 know peace proposals which all got denied, some of them actually so reasonable that the folks in power were scared that they could be published (some of the officers wife liked what Hitler wrote). No wonder that the Germans fought best they could what else was there to do the whole world wanted always to kill them – till even today (to re-write history in the favor of the winners, who do exactly that which they accused Adolf Hitler off, wanting to own the entire World).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFgNxNInsd8

    Anyway, the Russians have also some great historians who like to bring light and truth into the picture without altering the evidence.

    The truth is the “dirt of war” is to be found by all parties involved and certainly Germany was neither guilt of WW1 nor 2. Both wars were necessary to found Israel, were planned already in the 1890’ies and earlier.
    Even the Emperor of Germany Kaiser Wilhelm was not as mean as others, he made some of the most progressive pro worker laws and animal rights possible. He was a far greater humanist than any thinker from the Angll Saxon war mongers. That he was dressed in uniforms was not any different than what the British, French or North-Americans did. It also was never true that Germans had a war like genes in their blood… Nor did they “ate” and murder children as the propaganda said at WW1.

    Germany is used like a scapegoat by the NWO to enslave humanity and point the finger into an direction from which no danger comes (except when done as insider job – ), so that people would not find the true war mongers on this planet earth, which are greedy globalist capitalists, banksters, oligarchs, and religious fanatics who gang up against humanity in organized crimes.

    Germany us used and abused even today, or even ever more at this day and age to exploit the masses divert their attention away from the real war mongering gangsters.

    Anyway, the Russians must be honest with their own history, like Alexander Solzhenitsyn was. Hos MOST BANNED BOOK IN THE WORLD: 200 Years Together Russian-Jewish History – Alexsandr Solzhenitsyn is an important contribution towards to reconstruction of some kind of history which resembles truth.

    http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-years-together-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/

    Russians philosopher Alexander Dugin also encouraged a Eurasian Union to get rid of the US war mongers.
    Here he speaks against, capitalism, communism, fascism:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpzxw2u1C8Q

    Reminder: most “neo-nazis in Germany are paid by the secret Services and are creating trouble to supress the decent Germans into insignificance. Almost all terrorist acts are insider jobs as the information (google it) indicates.

    For a humanity which moves beyond the motto: “divide and conquer.” Seeing through and not support evil, violence and war is indicated. Nobody wants this except those who want power.

    1. choyung – this is very good, informative, thoughtful.
      no arguments at all.

      The Russians have to admit their own doings, wanting, and cruelties they committed as they listened to monsters and demons like Ilja Ehrenburg, one of the most evil person who ever walked planet earth, and he gets honored in Israel the master liar (there is o love for humanity in their Zionist versions of wanting power over others).

      yes.
      as much as i like russians, especially today’ss russians, they must get away from this sick and artificial braggadocio about “how they beat the germans”.
      they might as well play hava nagila every time they say that because it is just brownnosing the jew by proxy.

      i agree that ilya ehrenburg was one of the most evil creatures (no way am i going to call him human because i am human and don’t want to be put in the same basket as him) in history.
      but also that many, many jews, thousands in all likelihood harbor within themselves the same evil and would like nothing better than to be given a chance to put it into effect.
      no doubt that igor (“our bennie”) kolomoisky is equally evil and that bernard henri-levy hides the same malevolence within that faux-intellectual exterior.
      and i would say, millions of ordinary jews like the sniper who proudly facebooked that he’s killed 13 palestinian children in one day and was looking forward to more.

      a huge numebr of jews, who knows how many, maybe a million? have hit that ceiling of perfect evil which cannot be budged due to its totality, like a gymnast who gets a perfect 10 on all judges cards.

      when their time comes to be judged, and if there is anything that i believe in more than the eyeball reality it is the ultimate justice, all these jews will get perfect 10.

      and guess what the prize is.

    2. @Choyung

      >> Anyway, unless the Holocaust files are brought out in the open without falsifications… and the Russians admit their own wrong doing there is no union possible as much as that would be an otherwise wise choice to make.

      It is amazing how a grown man can be so hopelessly naive. Germany is not in the position to decide for itself with whom to align or forge a union – Germany is an occupied territory. It is ridiculous to think that Holocaust files (what is that anyway?), or what Russians do or do not do with regard to their “wrong doing” has something to do with the question at hand.

      >> Anyway, the Russians must be honest with their own history, like Alexander Solzhenitsyn was.

      Alexander Solzhenitsyn was a useful idiot used in the destalinization process who failed even to realize that he has been used. Here are some facts about Solzhenitsyn that will prove useful for a perceptive mind.

      (1) Solzhenitsyn was for “letting the Chechens go” as he put it. If Russia followed this idiotic advice, where would be Russia today and where would be Chechnya? Thanks to the wise political decisions of Putin and his political will, Chechnya is more Russian today than it was in the entire previous history of uneasy Russian-Caucasus relations .

      (2) Solzhenitsyn wished that his “200 Years Together Russian-Jewish History” not to be published before he dies. That should tell you something about how “courageous” this man was.

      (3) Solzhenitsyn is the most quoted and favorite “honest historian” (along with another “honest historian” – Viktor Suvorov, a Jew who defected to the West, real name Vladimir Rezun) of the Jewish liberals in Russia.

      Read the signs, as Lobro says.

      1. @Circassion, I know that Germany is occupied but the Russians themselves could decide to open their own files and that is what I was really getting at. They could show some good will, but I bet they do get some strange and false national pride out of their own narrative, hence the dance on eggshells goes on and the notion of what is “truth” (?) is stepped on daily. There is a lack of honesty and that sucks.

        Some Germans did some great research outside the country though like Michael Vogt on Rudolf Hess and 1939 (after initially the documentary was allowed and seen in national television, but later the documentary was forbidden and he was declared as persona non-grata – which did not stop him from researching all kinds of other interesting topics),- and Gerd Schultze-Rhonhof, a German General who noticed that the history books of his daughter were often totally misquoted. His own book is pretty much based on facts. His conclusions sound honest and reasonable in his book “The War That Had Many Fathers.” He is not guided by propaganda and brain washed destructive reactive emotions. Hence, I consider him somewhat more mature.

        There are other great historians… who are interesting, and yes @Pat, real history real truth can also subjective as none of our own experiences are ever the same, some fact-based evidence however got to be there and yes it is. One cannot make up everything… some facts got to be seen in context and the conclusions must be within reason and got to make sense. None of us can know everything. The Holocaust is so shocking because so many people lied about their experience, at least the ones who happen to mention gas chambers almost always lied. Some dealt with dead bodies even though it is known that one cannot remove a single dead boy without the proper insulation or else one dies too. One cannot remove millions of dead bodies in industrial fashion. It cannot be done scientifically. It is surprising that so many people believe that without looking into that Zyclon B melts only at temperatures of 25C and the average temperature was 8C and no heating systems were in the chambers. So many call themselves Holocaust survivors in the 5-generation and still exploit the Germans forever on end and yes they are fighting to get rid of all Germans, so the narrative can go on forever and even become more absurd and the brainwashed humanity is too busy and uninterested to research these morbid and uninspiring tales with honesty. When the Germans are all gone then nobody has much interest to question anything but they will be enslaved based on a narrative which does not make total sense.

        I think the book “Hellstorm” is also right on target.

        What is truth anyway? I guess, the Holocaust narrative (… such as the idea of “the most horrible crime in history”, bla bla) is needed for the Russians and the Anglo Saxons to cover up their own inhumanity and crimes they committed. Without the Holocausts ever new and still evolving narrative their own sense of humanity would appear as truly abolutly non-existent. Hence ever new laws come up to protect this weird and uninspiring heritage as if there are actual values left in a society which is based on a system leaching and living mainly of war and murder of planet earth.

        When it comes to the Russians, I wish the Russians could define themselves not through wars they won -or lost- but through actual achievements… culturally and on the humanistic level, – here we can really meet – all of us really. But this would require some courage to look into historical taboos which not many have (except people in blogs like this).

        Alexander Dugin has lots of good things to say. I will look into him some more. I enjoy to listen to more mature discussions beyond reactive emotion and assumptions.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lDzTipADOI

        Peace then… 🙂 and wishing all the best.

    3. choyung –

      You wrote:
      “The book can be ordered at Amazon.com for those who are interested in REAL history.”

      There is NO real history in writing. All written history is subjective. All authors have a reason for writing, with points to make, and opinions to present the readers. Even autobiographies are misleading, many are outright lies.

  19. they did get together to create austria for the jews.suppose they wiped out the jews that would have been better ar even wipe each other out yippie

  20. i am a holocaust believer. (spelled the same, pronounced a bit differently)

    i believe that 6 million jews lied.

  21. wellywellywell … how does one interpret this insignificant bit of news
    Russia and China’s move to abandon dollar receives blowback from SWIFT

    SWIFT of course, is the throne of rothschild empire, is it not, even the galactic band of rebels against the empire call themselves SWIFT.

    so SWIFT makes some ringing announcements, worth reading carefully

    SWIFT and its stakeholders have received calls to disconnect institutions and entire countries from its network – most recently Israel and Russia

    and

    SWIFT regrets the pressure, as well as the surrounding media speculation, both of which risk undermining the systemic character of the services that SWIFT provides its customers around the world. As a utility with a systemic global character, it has no authority to make sanctions decisions

    am i the only one who sees the rats jumping overboard and swimming towards the next hoped-for refuge?
    we, at the SWIFT regret that everyone is picking on poor little israel (first name, david) and his best friend russia.
    we are victim of media speculation, the nasty nazi media, yes, that one.

    sounds like 2 prisoners agreeing to dump the prison, easier said than done boys.

    1. More to the point…

      Published on 06 Oct 2014

      SWIFT Statement

      Brussels, 6 October 2014 – SWIFT and its stakeholders have received calls to disconnect institutions and entire countries from its network – most recently Israel and Russia.

      SWIFT is a neutral global cooperative company set up under Belgian law. It was established by and for its members to create a shared worldwide messaging service and a common language for international transactions. SWIFT provides services to over 10,500 financial institutions and corporations in over 200 jurisdictions around the world. SWIFT is a critical service provider to the financial industry and plays a pivotal role in supporting international commerce and trade.

      SWIFT services are designed to facilitate its customers’ compliance with sanctions and other regulations, however SWIFT will not make unilateral decisions to disconnect institutions from its network as a result of political pressure.

      SWIFT regrets the pressure, as well as the surrounding media speculation, both of which risk undermining the systemic character of the services that SWIFT provides its customers around the world. As a utility with a systemic global character, it has no authority to make sanctions decisions.

      Any decision to impose sanctions on countries or individual entities rests solely with the competent government bodies and applicable legislators. Being EU-based, SWIFT complies fully with all applicable European law.

      SWIFT will not respond to individual calls and pressure to disconnect financial institutions from its network.
      http://www.swift.com/about_swift/shownews?param_dcr=news.data/en/swift_com/2014/PR_swift_sanctions_statement.xml#sthash.bQyKLprH.dpuf

    2. SWIFT is the system where numbers, SWIFT Codes, are assigned to over 10,000 banks around the world mainly for wire transfers.

  22. everyone with enough time on hands to watch “reality” shows can surely spemd an hour and bit to see this.

    apart from its intrinsic import, of which there is a lot, consider the level of discourse.
    these are serious academics, presidential advisers and economists discussing serious issues in a serious tone, without a hint of condescension or talking points by the talking heads of the western tv.

    so given that the tv is a popular medium, ie, caters to masses, consider how much more educated the russian masses are that a broadcaster would dare put this on air.
    for me, this alone bears thinking about.

  23. IN PUTIN’S RUSSIA – – – Oct 20, 2014:

    Three months ago, the CEO of Total, Christophe de Margerie, dared utter the phrase heard around the petrodollar world, “There is no reason to pay for oil in dollars,”  as we noted here.

    RT reports the dreadful news that he was killed in a business jet crash at Vnukovo Airport in Moscow after the aircraft hit a snow-plough on take-off. The airport issued a statement confirming “a criminal investigation has been opened into the violation of safety regulations,” adding that along with 3 crewmembers on the plane, the snow-plough driver was also killed.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-20/anti-petrodollar-ceo-french-energy-giant-total-dies-freak-plane-crash-moscow

    1. i guess the message to the rest of them thinking of jumping $hip is “you can pay your funeral costs in rubles”

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