Germany plans to put Bush and Cheney on trial for war crimes

Will Germany, a nation still occupied by US troops after WWII, dare to put Bush and his cronies on trial for torture and other war crimes?

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Presented with pictures, captions and commentary by Lasha Darkmoon 


LD:  These six American war criminals have already admitted to authorizing torture. From left to right: President George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, George Tenet. Even the New York Times (see here) has called for their prosecution. Nobel Peace prize winner Barack Obama has refused to take action, since his own war crimes are even greater. Now Germany has decided to step in and start the ball rolling. (LD)  

If President Obama won’t do it, someone else will.

Thankfully, a human rights group in Berlin, The European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights, has begun the process of indicting members of the Bush Administration by filing criminal complaints against the architects of the Admin’s torture program.

Calls for an immediate investigation by the German human rights group was started after outrage ensued on the case of a German citizen, Khalid El-Masri, who had been captured by CIA agents in 2004  because of a mistaken identity mix-up and was tortured at a secret prison in Afghanistan.

Wolfgang Kaleck, the general secretary of the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights, said: “By investigating members of the Bush administration, Germany can help to ensure that those responsible for abduction, abuse and illegal detention do not go unpunished.”

In an interview with “Democracy Now,” Michael Ratner, president emeritus of the Center for Constitutional Rights and chairman of the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights, said that he believes Cheney, among others, has no defense against accusations of torture and should be indicted:

“I strongly disagree that Bush, Cheney, et al., would have a defense,” he said. “This wasn’t like these memos just appeared independently from the Justice Department. These memos were facilitated by the very people — Cheney etc. — who we believe should be indicted. This was part of a conspiracy so they could get away with torture. But that’s not the subject here now.”

“Secondly, whatever we think of those memos,” he added,  “they have no application in Europe. Europe doesn’t accept this “golden shield” of a legal defense. Either it’s torture or it’s not. Either you did it or you didn’t. And that’s one of the reasons, among others, why we’re going to Europe and why we went to Europe to bring these cases through the European Center.”

Ratner then hit the nail on the head regarding America’s dangerous exceptionalism path down the road:

“But, of course, you know, Cheney just showed us exactly why you have to — have to prosecute torture. Because if you don’t prosecute it, the next guy down the line is going to torture again. And that’s what Cheney said: ‘I would do it again.’”


Dick Cheney, looking like a cornered rat


Khalid El-Masri was on vacation in Skopje, in Macedonia, when he was pulled off of a bus by government agents, sodomized and drugged. He was then taken to a secret base that was identified only as “Cobalt” in the CIA torture report. After four months, and after the United States learned of the mistaken identity, they left him there and continued to torture him.

The US  actually held on to him even after realizing that they had been torturing the wrong man. Afterwards, they released him, dropping him off somewhere to resume his life.

El-Masri, in the same interview with Democracy Now, said this:

“I was the only one in this prison in Kabul who was actually treated slightly better than the other inmates. But it was known among the prisoners that other prisoners were constantly tortured with blasts of loud music, exposed to constant onslaughts of loud music. And they were—for up to five days, they were just sort of left hanging from the ceiling, completely naked in ice-cold conditions.

This man from Tanzania, whom I mentioned before, had his arm broken in three places. He had injuries, trauma to the head, and his teeth had been damaged. They also locked him up in a suitcase for long periods of time, a foul-smelling suitcase that made him vomit all the time.

Other people experienced forms of torture whereby their heads were being pushed down and held under water.”

He finished the interview with some pretty damning words that should make George Bush, Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice and Donald Rumsfeld shudder:

“What with the NSA spying on Germany, and the fact that one of their citizens was tortured when known to be innocent, I’m pretty sure that Germany is going to take this very seriously.

LD:  The comment about the CIA suitcase torture reminds me of some information I received from a corespondent of mine a few months ago. He said that Israeli advisors were always to be found at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, at Bagram base in Afghanistan, and at all the other American torture camps  scattered over the globe.

What was particularly appalling, apart from Israeli advisors suggesting ever more ingenious methods of making life unbearable for detainees, most of whom were innocent, was the fact that American doctors were always at hand to advise how much torture could be applied before the victim died in agony. Gerald Thomson, professor of medicine emeritus at Columbia University, notes disapprovingly: “Physicians were transformed into agents of the military and performed acts that were contrary to medical ethics.”  

Who invented the CIA suitcase torture is unknown, but it was probably an Israeli advisor, according to my source, who thought up the idea of smearing the inside of the suitcase with excrement and vomit before ramming the petrified prisoner inside.


LD: Another torture used extensively by the Bush administration is waterboarding. This entails a prisoner being strapped to a board with his feet raised above his head. His face is covered by a wet cloth as interrogators pour water over it to give the sensation of drowning. 

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of  9/11, was waterboarded 183 times. Is it any wonder that he confessed? Later he admitted that he “made up stories” to stop being tortured. When asked about the brutal ill-treatment of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, President Bush said: “Yeah, we waterboarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. I’d do it again to save lives.”  (LD)

184 thoughts to “Germany plans to put Bush and Cheney on trial for war crimes”

  1. There is certainly a legal basis for prosecuting Bush, Cheney et al for waging aggressive war, conspiracy to wage aggressive war, the use of chemical weapons and most diabolical of all depleted uranium. One only has to do an internet search for depleted uranium babies to see how horrific they are. A crime against humanity.
    Now the old doctrine of Versari in re illicita no longer applies to most international crimes, except for command decisions. The Versari doctrine means basically the if one commits an illegal act one is responsible for all the subsequent consequences of such an act. Thus Bush, Cheney, Blair et al must be held liable for the estimated one million deaths of Iraqi civilians and the torture because they gave the orders. The same applies to Obama and also to the Jewish Neo-Con advisers for counseling, procuring, aiding and abetting such crimes.

    1. I would love to see a video of Bush, Blair, and their fellow mass murderers and tortuters, subjected to waterboarding, and other forms of torture..

      1. That’s pretty rough, Ingrid. I’m surprised at you. And, Jim, sounds more like revenge than justice IMO. Surely they can be put to good use on some prison work-gang somewhere. Maybe cleaning up DU in Iraq or something. Who knows, they may even repent!

    2. actually Ingrid…on second thoughts I would love to see them tried in Nuremberg and then to be told….oh sorry’s a kangaroo court

    3. Of course, SatanYahoo and all the entire Israeli Knesset, as well as all Jews, worldwide, are ALSO culpable.

      But will we ever see THEM tried? Only at the Parousia, I’m afraid.

  2. It’s bout time all these war criminals were rounded up and have the same done to them what they did to their victims. What a pity that scum like Eisenhower, Churchill, Stalin, Roosevelt are no longer around – as for the jews who are forever claiming that 6-million of them were gassedk etc, under the Hitler regime, should be exposed for the liars that they are and also rounded up and locked up for the rest of their miserable lives…

    1. Julie J. I believe the figure of 6 million holds some mystical significance for the Jews they claimed 6 million died at the end of WW1 as well. Yet even by the farce which was Nuremberg, the figures still don’t add up. Nuremberg found that 5.7 million of these creatures were allegedly done to death. However that figure was predicated on 4 million dying in Auschwitz. That figure has since been reduced to 1 million. Yet the arch-schmaltzifier, Eely Weasel still whinges on about the 6 million. It reminds me of the magic glass one would have thrust into one’s hand at a Chinese banquet and it would never be empty.

      1. Census figures shown on the American Jewish Committee website but since removed:
        Jews in Europe before the war 8,039,608
        Jews in Europe after the war and the holohoax 9,372,668
        The zionist war (there all zionist wars) was the real holocaust with 60 million murdered by zionism

    2. I totally agree with Julie J. and Ingrid, no punishment for them is too extreme and I fantasize about bring back to life those real war criminals of WW2 so they could share the same fate as todays murderers. Is it just a coincidence that virtually all of these creatures, past and present, are Jews.?

  3. The sensationalism of this causes me to wonder if TPTB perhaps pre-planned the international indictments in order to set precedent for international tribunals – enforced by UN ‘peacekeepers’/police – totally eroding sovereignty of nations (which is, already for the most part, accomplished by the fiat money issue). The emotional fervor has been building to the point of overlooking the many caveats connected with extraditing citizens to other nations for prosecution, no matter how deserving they are of punishment. Our country would be better served to arrest them here, try them for treason, then hang them. We have probable cause…

    1. ‘Treason’ could easily be established against these. The end result – just desserts – is the same.

      1. Yes, Gilbert. Treason it is because their acts where at the behest of and in the interests of a foreign power, Israel. Also International Jewry, the banks and the MSM. If the Nuremberg trials could find Julius Streicher guilty of crimes against humanity then I see no reason not to go after the Economist, BBC, Fox, CNN, NYT etc.
        Julius Streicher never held any position in the Reich government, he was only a newspaper editor, yet he was hanged. So yes, if it was in my power I’d go after the main stream media for their role in enabling the entire criminal enterprise. Rupert Murdoch would be the first for the good old British long drop!

      1. He should sound like a Pharisee….because he is…. a Ratowczer:

        Ratner was born into a Jewish family in the Cleveland metropolitan area, the son of Harry Ratowczer (later Americanized to Ratner), one of eight children to immigrate to the US from Poland. Four of his paternal uncles founded Forest City Enterprises in 1920; originally a construction materials company it eventually evolved into construction and then into real estate development.

        Ratner’s younger brother is and New Jersey Nets owner, Bruce Ratner. and his sister is Ellen Ratner, a radio talk show host and Fox News contributor.

  4. This is all well and good. But, why make such a fuss over arresting and prosecuting the puppets of the 9/11 affair? Not a single Jew is named here… and it was THEY – from the Mossad to the traitorous dual citizens in this country that masterminded and pulled off this nefarious deed. Surreal.

    1. Right Joe;These guys should be prosecuted ,not for torture but for high treason against America as they carried out foriegn agendas: Israli in the first place and alien powers too.

    2. Yes, Joe, but Big Daddy Jew couldn’t get his agenda accomplished without the likes of Cheney and Bush and their miserable breed. Obviously – if German indictments come to any fruition – Big Daddy Jew has NO MORE USE for these carrion, and is utilizing them one last time to further an agenda. Ideally, America should begin cleaning house AT HOME. Complicity with Germany (or any other country, for that matter) only broadens Big Daddy’s influence over all involved. The only way to beat Big Daddy is with cold, brutal calculation and self-denial. ELIMINATE ‘foreign entanglements’ at every possible opportunity. The same advice should be heeded by France, Germany, Good fences make good neighbors.

      1. Only way to beat big daddy jew is to kill them and put in the Byzantine solution to the jew problem for the rest of them

  5. Hands up if you actually think anything will come of this?
    I imagine it will be a case of prosecution lawyers vs defense lawyers in a long drawn out investigation all funded, of course, by the tax payer.
    In other words, I see another whitewash on its way, wrapped up in sensationalism.

    Screw taking any of them to court for the use of torture. They should be going to court and tried as war criminals for the unlawful invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. To me it seems like they’re giving the public something that they desire, but only 10% of it in torture trials.

    1. Totally agree Harbinger..

      Just heard that the long suffering taxpayers, in the US and EU, will be financing an EU army..

    2. Too right, Harbinger. And do all the EU airlines really want to take that chance? They’ll be dropping like flies! No offense, like ( to the airline crash / dissappearance victims and families I mean, not flies, I don’t like flies ) . Actually, it’s just gone a year since the disappearance of Malaysian flight 370. Let us remember them in our prayers. Just found this, probably old news by now, but for those of us who don’t watch the telly…–abc-news-topstories.html

    3. Guess this is a ruse. This could very likely be something funded by “Them” It helps to make the agitated masses think that some at last is doing something about the evil. Yawn. Pass the salt please.

    4. Yes Harbinger, I can see these creatures landing on their feet after millions being spent on trials. Why waste time on trials any way.? When we all know their guilty.

  6. Really??? Jew get Jew?? I don’t see anything but Jew lawyers getting US (goyim) and German (goyim) money, tax-free.

    Michael Ratner is the chairman of the ‘non-profit’ group lodging the complaint.
    Michael Ratner (Chairman) is President Emeritus of the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR), a non-profit legal organization dedicated to advancing and protecting the rights guaranteed by the United States Constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

    The European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights (ECCHR) is an independent, non-profit legal and educational organization dedicated to protecting civil and human rights throughout Europe.

    1. Exactly Pat,

      It’s a case of smash and grab from the public purse, funding high profile lawyers, who already know the outcome beforehand, but producing sensationalism to keep the morons who’ll watch it happy. In other words nothing but “Bread and Circuses.”

      1. Thanks Mr.

        But I cannot top any Ratner…. Michael is as hilarious looking as Ellen at FOX!!

  7. Why does it matter that there were NO (physical) planes used on 9/11/2001?

    I have six points in response to this question of TV Illusionism.

    The first is what I call “the mirror”.

    1. Imagine yourself listening to a speech by a mainstream peace activist who says something like

    “The hijackers who flew those planes into the buildings were fanatics and George Bush is a fanatic. We need to be rid of the fanatics on both sides. A violent response is not the answer to this problem.”

    Afterwards you say to them

    “That’s fair enough in so far as it goes, but what you need to realize is that there weren’t any crazy Arabs flying those planes. The Govt did the whole thing itself.”

    And they say

    “You’re nuts”.

    So you start giving them some evidence—to which they have no answer, and as they start to see that they can’t refute your evidence, then they shift ground and say

    “Well, why does it matter, anyway ? We already have more than enough evidence to show that US foreign policy is both unjust and a total failure and the cause of the problem.”

    To which you reply

    “I’ve just demonstrated solid evidence that the Govt planned and carried out the attacks itself and you say that it doesn’t matter ? And that people don’t need to know this ? Indeed that they should not be made aware of this ?”

    They respond

    “Look. It’s hard enough to get people to oppose Govt policy without hitting them with these wild conspiracy theories about the Govt murdering thousands of its own people. Even if you’re right, people will never believe you. It only discredits the peace movement. And it doesn’t matter, because we can already show them that a violent response only makes the problem worse.”

    To which you reply

    “So you still believe in crazy Arabs flying the planes?”

    And they answer

    “I’m saying that it doesn’t matter who flew the planes. We need to be rid of the fanatics on both sides. The hijackers who flew the planes were fanatics. Bush is a fanatic. A violent response will not solve the problem.”

    This is a classic fruit loop.

    Do you feel frustrated with conversations like this ?

    If so, and if you are someone who asserts that it doesn’t matter whether there were any planes—then take a look in the mirror, because in the previous conversation, the person with whom you were arguing was yourself.

    2. Point two is the question of truth. This word is used ad-nauseam in relation to the debate over Sept 11. Crashing planes are at the core of the official story.

    If you are saying that it doesn’t matter whether or not the plane story is true, then you are saying that the truth doesn’t matter.

    If you believe that some other kind of agenda is more important than the truth, then say so up front and openly argue the philosophical position that truth does not matter.

    But if so, then do not call yourself the “truth movement” and do not keep talking about exposing the truth of Sept 11. This is double think.

    Either finding and exposing the truth—wherever it leads—is your mission or it isn’t. One or the other.

    3. My third point is that bad founding assumptions lead to bad conclusions no matter how careful the subsequent chain of research and logic. And bad conclusions lead to bad decisions.

    The previously mentioned speech by the mainstream peace activist is an example. If their founding assumption had been correct—that Arab fanatics flew planes into buildings, then everything in their speech would have been perfectly reasonable. Instead, they were talking destructive and misleading babble, working directly against the cause which they claimed to support.

    This destructive effect was due entirely to a false assumption being at the root of their entire position. This basic principle applies to everyone involved in public debate of any sort. As long as your founding assumption is wrong then you’ll finish up talking up rubbish, no matter how well researched, thought out and how well intended the subsequent steps may be.

    There is enough danger of false assumptions due to genuine mistakes and due to difficulty obtaining accurate information without deliberately manufacturing them through a conscious policy of building one’s entire case on what one knows to be a false assumption.

    4. It’s sometimes asserted that we have all the evidence we need to show that it was an inside job. I’ve already demonstrated the problem with such an approach, by means of the argument with the peace activist. But there is a further problem with such an approach.

    An inside job by who ? The Govt ? That’s only part of the story. The TV fakery on the Sth tower hit proves that the media was just as big a player as the Govt.

    Govts come and go, but if the media which was a major player in organizing the psy-op remains in power, then nothing has changed. Hanging out a few patsies who have outlived their usefulness -like Bush and Silverstein—may satisfy a primitive thirst for revenge but it leaves fully intact the criminal infrastructure which organized the deception. In fact it strengthens it by giving the misleading appearance that the truth has been exposed and that justice has been done, while actually leaving the high level perpetrators fully in control and ready to move on to the next chapter of their deception.

    If the media gets away with showing us a cartoon and passing it off as news in such brazen fashion, and then gets Govt patsies to take the fall, do you think they’ll only do it once ? And with continuing improvements in digital technology, the next one will be harder to pick if people have not been made aware that this sort of thing is happening

    Also, this is strongly relevant to my previous point—that bad information leads to bad decisions. There is an obsession within the movement with trying to use the mainstream media as the vehicle to tell the so called -truth about the event.

    If it were the case that the Govt had organized the whole thing, and that the media had been simply swept along by the tide, not knowing how to deal with the situation, and fallen into line because it simply didn’t have the courage or the knowledge to resist the situation, then exposure of the truth through the mainstream media might be a plausible aim.

    But the knowledge that the media was a full and willing partner in organizing the entire deception, should make it obvious that disclosure of the full truth through that same media an absurd and impractical aim. If they allow limited amounts of truth to leak into the media, this is only because it is part of their plan to continue the deception and move it forward to the next chapter.

    Selective truth can be as deceptive as lies.

    The media might hang out the Govt , but it wont hang out itself, and this means that it will never facilitate disclosure of the full truth.

    It’s like knowing that the police are running the local drug gangs and yet still going to them with information, expecting them to genuinely act on it, and then cheering because eventually they bust one of the gangs, when in actual fact, they’ve done it only to make people think that they’re doing something, and all it represents is a change in alliances within the trade, and a change in the details of how they’re going to keep running the trade.

    If you can get something into the media without actually lying, then fine. But the moment you start making deals with them and calling that truth, then you become as bad as, if not worse than the Republicrats.

    5. Point five goes well beyond the implications of Sept 11 as a specific issue.

    Sept 11 is not only a major driver of world policy and community attitudes, it’s iconic images are a major driver of the fundamental psyche and world view of the whole planet. Iconic images in people’s minds—things like a mushroom cloud, a Nazi rally, a starving African child, the moon landing—form a very important part of people’s views in the area where fact meets mythology.

    There can be little doubt that the image of cartoon 175 approaching the Sth tower has already become one of the top iconic images of the last 100 years. And that if unchallenged, then it will continue to heavily influence the psyche of much of the world for many years to come—perhaps several generations.

    There will be widely differing responses to it, both emotionally and in terms of political and social responses. There will be furious arguments over what it really means, why it happened, who did it, how various people should have responded and whether it could happen again.

    All of this analysis and emotional response over a cartoon. A delusion.

    This means an entire world gripped by mass delusion. An entire world where even the most intelligent analysts and compassionate activists are effectively insane. This relates strongly to my previous point that bad assumptions and bad information lead to bad decisions. If a cartoon is allowed to become one of the most iconic images driving people’s world view— thinking that the cartoon is real—then everyone will be making a lot of bad decisions. No-one will be able to make intelligent analysis or good decisions about almost anything, not matter how well intended or otherwise intelligent they may be.

    For the manipulators, having the entire world worrying and arguing over the meaning of a cartoon as if it were real means mass delusion, which means that mass mind control, however and wherever they choose becomes easier than ever.

    6. The final point is if we are to look at each single piece of evidence on Sept 11, purely from the point of view of how well it covers the events of the day, then the TV fakery is the most important thing.

    Why ? Because it proves many other points of evidence as well as itself.

    For example, demolition proves demolition, but does not prove stand down, or hijacker ID fakery. They remain as completely independent arguments.

    By contrast, TV fakery solves all three questions in one hit. It proves demolition—no more arguments about jet fuel fires, no more arguments about whether there were any Arabs on the planes, and it solves the mystery of why we haven’t found the stand down order and why no one in the Air Force has come forward—it’s because there wasn’t any stand down order, because there didn’t need to be, because there weren’t any hijacked planes.

    Every other piece of evidence, while useful in proving one specific point and in demonstrating in a general sense that we have been lied to, leaves many significant loose ends.

    Let me give you an example. The demolition by itself enables the whole hijacker myth to stand. A criminal group within the business community simply knew what was going to happen and decided to take advantage of the situation by using it as a cover to demolish the buildings and then criminal elements within the govt covered up for them retrospectively.

    So then we need to add the stand down evidence to show that the Govt was also actively complicit in allowing to happen. While that research is excellent in so far as it goes, in showing that the official story is impossible to believe, it creates as many problems as it solves. It leaves us with a vague and embarrassing silence on trying to be specific about the exact mechanism of how such an order would have been issued, distributed enforced, and then covered up from top to bottom.

    That would require a coordinated conspiracy of a far greater magnitude and risk than the TV fakery , which could have been done by a relatively small group of people.

    Secondly it leaves us with a real headache in terms of logically extrapolating from the stand down situation. Put yourself in the position of the hijackers. What kind of idiot would plan to crash two planes into the towers, and then expect to be able to attack the pentagon 3/4 of an hour later and then expect to be able to attack the White House another 1/2 hour after that ?

    The hijackers were seriously so stupid that never even considered the question of likely response from the air force ? They made an incredibly stupid plan which had no hope whatsoever of succeeding, but by an amazing coincidence the Govt had found out about it, and decided to let it happen ?

    Not very plausible really. So to get around this, you have to conclude that the hijackers actually knew that the air force was going to be stood down for them.

    Which means that hijackers and the Govt were actually working together. In which case why would Islamic fanatics commit suicide to help the US govt ? Which means that they weren’t Islamic fanatics. They were USG agents.

    In which case, is it normal for top USG operatives to do suicide missions ?

    So you try to solve this problem by considering remote controlled planes.

    Which then creates the problem of why electronically hijack real flights with crew who might be able to ruin the plot, rather than use decoy drones ? Which then leads you on to substitute drones to try to solve that problem. Etc, etc.

    As long as there are planes in the story, then each layer which is peeled back creates as many new problems as it solves.

    This of course, is inevitable with any story if its central core is fiction. The most efficient way to bust a fictitious story is to go straight for its fictitious core, rather than keep chasing the tangential lies which were spin offs to try to cover the main lie.

    As soon as you realize that there weren’t any planes, then every significant loose end is tied up. The only remaining loose ends are things which are as a result of simply lacking enough specific enough information, such ,as who of the alleged passengers is a real dead person and how did they actually die ?

    And although they are unsolved details they do not actually inconsistent with any of the answers which have been found, unlike the problems we saw earlier in the stand down story.

    They are merely finer details , waiting to mopped up.

    As long as planes remain in the story, it’s like slamming cupboard doors. You close one , and another swings open, and leaves the so called truth with almost as many holes as the official story.

    Leaving planes in the story condemns opponents of the official story to a constant game of chasing ones own tail in a futile effort to tie up the loose ends.

    1. Well, yes; one must first get to the meat of the matter, or the how. Then comes the why and the who.
      I have noticed this sudden growth of, “how doesn’t matter”, and it is only because they haven’t done the work to understand the plausible HOW, and are most likely frustrated that certain, particular, “truther theories”, just don’t fit (and they don’t care to expand their minds enough to actually investigate evidence..) So, the how doesn’t matter to those who’ve already decided on the who and simply want to punish them.

      Like Dr Judy Wood has often said, “I am reminded of the Casey Anthony care, in which all they had was the, ‘who'” The problem was they never came up with evidence (or good theory) as to HOW and, certainly, WHY. So, Ms Anthony had to be acquitted (and I see nothing wrong with that.) Now we need to acquit the Mid-East (with the exception of the little sh**hole) and its people for something they obviously had no part in.
      Solve the how. Move on to the why and who (simultaneously, if you like.)

      1. @ AnneBeck58

        Gosh Anne, you are a well of profundity! Philosopher of the Who and the Why and the How and the What! Where have you been hiding all this time with that lovely avatar of yours? 🙂

        Hmm, maybe it’s time for my green tea…

    2. By the way, ignoring HOW is exactly what put us into these ridiculous wars (massacres) in the Mid-East. Ignorance of evidence, then, is what has our kids killing themselves upon returning from, “war”. So, those who’re saying to ignore, how, are setting us up for more failure.

      1. AnneBeck58 –

        Lawyers are taught to ask winesses who, what, when, where, why and HOW….. to solve the cases.

        The problem here with 911 is the ‘silenced’ people who have the answers, cannot(some dead) and/or choose not to testify(some by contract).

  8. @Pat
    Of course nothing is going to come of this. It will be same as the “trial” held in KL, Malaysia a couple of years ago which found Bush and Blair guilty of war crimes. If and when it is ever possible, then a radical overhaul of both the US and UK must be carried out: All Jewish owned corporations, including banks must be disincorporated. Any shareholders to have assets confiscated. However bank depositors to be fully compensated. After all it is disgusting for a juristic person or body corporate to have more legal rights than a living breathing human being.
    So change the law, when a corporation is convicted of a criminal offence it is automatically put to death by disincorporation. Screw shareholder rights! I am for individual rights. So any corporation that has profiteered from these adventures in Iraq and Iran should be serverely punished.
    You do realise of course, that the concept of a limited company was introduced as a way for Jews and Freemasons to avoid paying debts by declaring bankruptcy!
    Another point, before I turn in tonight( it’s 23.00 hours here) is to deny corporations political rights. Therefore they should not be allowed to donate to political parties. It is absurd for a soulless entity to have more political rights than an actual human being. But in nearly every country due to the pernicious influence of freemasonry the courts have become incorrigibly corrupt and will always rule in favour of the Jew or freemason. Witness the David Irving case as one prime example.

    1. Felix,

      You cannot use the system to beat the system. Political parties are and always have been lobbyists for the higher power they serve and they’re NOT the public. Political parties are always infiltrated and thus controlled. The only way you stop the control of society by political parties, instituting their civil legislation, is NOT to have political parties.

      1. Harbinger. Of course you’re right. Now why didn’t I think of that? It’s also important to ‘demasonify’ the police and Judiciary. In the UK police officers will actually join the Masons to get promoted.

      2. Felix,

        When the French authorities found the plan of the illuminati freemasons, before the revolution, they sought to completely destroy it. They of course failed. Nations have been marred with this evil within, the secret societies who work for their own gain to the overall detriment of the population.

        They must be stopped. All governments and institutions within society MUST be 100% transparent.

        I have said always said that especially here in the UK, they need to remove the authority of the crown from the judiciary and the police, along with the government. The monarchy and aristocracy, along with the Crown simple has to go, yet ironically those who seek to do so are committing treason – great safety clause for totalitarian rule always that is eh?

        If the government, police and judiciary were directly answerable to the people, they would not do what they do. Courts have now turned into kangaroo courts because the police and judiciary work hand in hand to prosecute innocents and take their money. Thug police get away with murder as you know.

        The biggest problem is of course educating the people to realise this. Most who know are looked upon as loons, because the msm portrays them as such, another institution that’s heavily controlled.

        While society remained ignorant, our self appointed ‘masters’ (SAM) were setting up their control mechanisms. And I truly do believe that the only thing that will stop their intent is simple all out chaos WITH THE REMOVAL OF ALL secret organisations, elite bankers and aristocracy. I’m talking about literally a FORMATTING of society and complete destruction of the system. It would mean no CENTRAL government, but local government, whose individuals are paid no more than a street cleaner. All peoples in society would take their turn at running the ‘ship’ so to speak and it would be completely transparent.

        If however there are any secret societies, elite Jews/money men and aristocracy left, you can guarantee that society will lapse back into what was destroyed.

        “Order out of Chaos” is the motto of our SAM. People will be thinking upon reading this that I’m thinking exactly as they are, by wanting complete chaos in order to destroy the system. I am, I won’t deny it but here’s the difference – they want to bring complete chaos and then order with themselves running the ship, whereas I want complete chaos AND THEIR COMPLETE removal from the face of this earth. I am speaking of the utter obliteration of them, their families, their bloodlines and their totalitarian dreams and of course their system of control. Only then can society rebuild itself. You have to completely remove the parasite from within, utterly destroy it so that it will never return.

        The thing is as well, there would be no need to expel Jews from the lands, because if they are not in control of the system then they are not able to manipulate the people through it.

        My point is a simple one Felix – the system simply has to go along with all of those responsible for creating it, or should I say, running it and continuing its route to a totalitarian one world state under their complete control. There is no black and white in this. It’s either remove it and be free or allow it and remain enslaved.

      3. Harbinger –
        It looks good on paper.

        The extraordinary amount of chaos you recommend would require an extraordinary amount of force to defeat the mufti-leveled resource laden groups you mentioned. That effort would require extraordinary organization led by an extraordinary leader, a General…so to speak.
        When the General accomplishes the goals you might approach him and say, “Thank you General. Fine job.”
        He would reply, “You are VERY welcome. BUT you got the name wrong. From now on…just call me EMPEROR!!”

        Is there an example of that scenario? Yes, maybe hundreds. Here is a famous one:
        Julius Caesar uttered the famous phrase “alea iacta est” – the die is cast, after crossing the Rubicon.

        My plan would be to use the Jew, rather than he Jew using goyim. Turn their cult against them.

        Remember…. if you were to remove all parasites from your body… you would be dead in a week from infections.

        I call Jews enemies and criminals, rather than insulting the numerous good and needed parasites…. in all of nature… …operating within a system of symbiosis.

        USE THEM as slaves.

      4. @Harbinger.
        That is going to happen a lot sooner then you think. IMO, The governments in the US/EU etc are rapidly approaching a state of political and economic ” zugzwang” (that’s a chess term where a player is under the compulsion to move and any move he makes is fatal) The Robert Mugabe style economic management of the western economies are in the near future going to result in hyper-inflation. Pensions, savings are going to be wiped out. This is going to result in chaos and war. The secret societies think they will be able to control it. However, I am not so sure. This time the anarchists must not make the mistake the Spanish anarchist movement made during the Civil War which resulted in them being massacred by the Reds. I’m sure you are already aware that Spain in the 30’s had one of the largest anarchist movements, about 3 million members, if I’m not mistaken. I regard myself as a religious anarchist. In my youth I was very right
        wing. Karma is going to destroy the current system we have and the ruling elite will be able to do nothing about it.
        Perhaps each county, town or even village becomes a mini-republic and leaders are voted in for 1 year terms as consul. Then each country in a loose confederation with important issues being decided by referenda And the economic system would be autarchic as far as possible. Counter or barter trade to be used as needed. This by the way was one of the reasons the international banking system had to get rid of Hitler. He conducted massive counter trade with many countries; German machinery etc for foodstuffs and raw materials. One can only hope.

      5. Pat,

        Were I to lead the effort, for example, I would be more than happy to go back to my current life of education, solitude and misanthropy. I do not seek fame or fortune. I’ve never been, nor ever will be materialistic. I had a big chance of being a very successful musician, but when I weighed up my freedom and privacy, to fame, fortune and wealth, the former won hands down.

        There are people out there like me. There are many who simply want to destroy the evil within society and then get on with living NOT leading. I have no desire to lead. I have no desire to order and control others. Hell, although I was a doorman for near on 18 years, I’m asked continually to come back but won’t due to my knowledge of liberty. However that said, I’d make an exception if it meant removing the parasite within society that’s taking us to a totalitarian one, world state.

        You are correct in that it would require extra ordinary organisation. It would mean ending propaganda by instantly blinding and silencing the msm. It would mean removing special forces units asap as they’re the elites hitman teams. It would mean shutting banks down asap. It would mean detroying the power grid. We’re taking about shutting society down to blind them, but also resulting in the same back on us. It would mean pretty much destroying the military as the chain of command stops decent. Like it or not the military is the enemy of the people, unless a brave general steps up and attack those who call the shots.
        If people are educated in the above strategies then the elites would have a hell of a job cutting of the head of the snake simply because there isn’t one.

        As for using the Jew, well, the Jew will always be the Jew and lapse into typical, Jewish behaviour and desire for supremacy, as God’s chosen, over the non Jew. So your desire to turn the Jewish cult against them is no different to using the system to destroy the system. It can’t be done, because any attack on it instantly unites enemies of enemies within the system to defend it.

        We have no parasites within the human body. We have bacteria that acts in a symbiosis with the host. A parasite gives the host nothing while taking. If a parasite fought against infections as you state, then it wouldn’t be a parasite as it would be helping the body survive by destroying invading parasites. It would therefore be in a symbiotic mutualistic relationship with the host.
        There are no parasites that benefit Pat as it’s an oxymoron. They simply take from the host waiting for an opportunity to destroy it.

        And I wouldn’t use Jews as slaves either, because in doing so you become like they. If you remove Jew’s ability to control then they pose no threat to society. They have damaged society through firstly controlling through religion (OT), then through banking, then through invading the aristocracy and politics, then through academia and finally through the msm and the arts. In order to educate the public, all must be wrestled back into the hands of the non Jew. They will have their lives but won’t be able to attain positions within with which to influence and control. Therefore the relationship would turn from a parasitic one into one of mutual cooperation. They would have to work like all others and accept that they are not God’s chosen and above non Jews.

      6. Felix,

        ‘Our masters’ are bringing the world into chaos. This we can’t allow them to do because they’re calling the shots. If you look at my reply to Pat below you’ll see what I’ve written regarding the situation. They have already worked out every possibility when it comes to society going into chaos. They have underground bunkers to escape to and if their plan start going awry, then off go the nukes to remove all life above. They have ‘arks’ with all the DNA of all life on this planet to start again. They’ll bide their time below and wait until the nuclear winter has passed and everyone above dead. Remember, it’s about their survival not ours.

      7. Felix the Police ask young officers leading questions – quite innocent – to ascertain if you are on the square.

      8. @Wiggins
        You are spot on there! I have many friends who’ve served in police forces in the UK. Remember the Guildford 4? After their exoneration, the local police lodge tried to smear them by floating rumours that they were guilty. Freemasonry is insidious. It’s also peurile nonsense; swearing ridiculous oaths and the like.
        If you read Matthew in context you will see that where Jesus adjures his followers in the Sermon on the Mount not to swear oaths, he doesn’t say it directly but implies it is the one unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit! That’s why I always sense something ‘off’ about Freemasons! They bind themselves to an evil and secret society. It’s same as the mafia, except at the top it’s controlled by Jews. The Kosher Nostra!

      9. Jews’ Quotes on Masonry from CDL Report in 1982:

        THE REALIZATION that masonry’s “public face” is a tissue of lies and distortions will cause many to wonder who is behind this foul organization. The simple answer, whether one like it or not, is the Jews. And in the past they have gleefully proclaimed that fact to the world. They cannot help themselves but to boast about what is their grand doing. Here are a few selected comments which support this contention to the hilt.

        “There were cabalistic Jews around the cradle of Freemasonry, as certain rites still in existence prove conclusively.” – Bernard Lazare in Anti-Semitism.

        “The most important duty of a freemason must be to glorify the Jewish race.” – Le Symbolisme (1928).

        “Freemasonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the masonic ritual and what is left?” – Jewish Tribune USA (1927).

        “Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end.” – Rabbi Isaak Wise (1855).

        “Jewish ritual is customary and valid in all freemasonic lodges of the world.” – Brother Rudolph Klien, Grand Lodge of Saxony.

        “The spirit of freemasonry is that of Judaism in its most fundamental beliefs; its ideas are Judaic, its language is Judaic, its very organization is almost Judaic.” – La Verite Israelite, Paris (1861).

        “The ideas pf freemasonry originated from the Jewish epoch. Words and designations were taken mostly from the Hebrew.” – Dr. Gustav Karpeles, B’nai B’rith (1902).

        “I have given sufficient illustrations to support the deduction that masonry, as a system of symbolism, rests entirely on a foundation which is essentially hebraic.” – B. Shillman, Hebraic Influences on Masonic Symbolism.

        Referring to the ‘coat of arms’ of the Grand Lodge of England, Lucien Wolf, the Jewish historian wrote:
        “The coat is entirely composed of Jewish symbols.” – Transaction of the Jewish Historical Society of England.

  9. Oy vey, keine Juden auf die Liste. If it goes ahead, the goyim will be satisfied and the Juden lawyers will make scheiss-load of shekels in the process.

    This is a bit like the child abuse and pedofilia enquiry in the UK. The public gets outraged, employ some Juden judges and lawyers to investigate, drag it on for years until the goyim is fed up or forgets about it, carry on as if nothing has happened.

    And in case it ever gets close to them, just shout as loud as possible: Anti-Semitism.

    Mazel tov!

  10. Does anyone see the potential reason behind this bizarre event? First, the fact is it was Jews like Feith, Wolfowitz, Wurmser, Bolton and other Jews who were actually behind the war with Iraq, yet not one Jew is present in the lineup. Surprised?

    What might be the outcome if Germany pursues criminal charges and actually finds these clowns guilty of war crimes? Consider for a moment the outcome of the Nuremberg war trials. Was not all of Germany’s leadership along with its people found guilty of war crimes? Was was not the entire country reeducated and “denazified” after the trial? Did not Germany emerge from these trials with an entirely new led form of government beholden to Jewish interests?

    The potential outcome of this sham trial is an international tribunal finding American leadership to be grossly deficient and in need of replacement and reeducation. Ultimately Americans are facing their present form of Republican government being replaced by the Jew’s new world order government that will never again allow American “war criminals” to exert their influence over an “oppressed people.”

    The fact that Germany is being used for this purpose is yet another little ironic twist of the knife to both Germany and America, a type of twist of which Jews are so fond. Despite the utter vile repulsiveness of clowns like Bush and Cheny, American’s will be fooled again if they allow or provide any support for this trial.

  11. Suppose these men are arrested and put on trial and convicted. Jews still remain. Any Christian church that still has the Jew works on their pulpit is a traitor to mankind. How many Christians paid their pew rent and came out ready to do battle with the Jew evil as a result of their Sunday sermon? Answer: None.
    If you go to church, vote, watch sports, drink alcohol, use tobacco, use Jew drugs both legal and illegal, wish to be someday buried in a casket in a vault toped by a granite marker then you are stupid as you indeed look. Do not reproduce, do not make more of you. Get out of the way.

  12. “The European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights”

    The same Jews and Judaized Europeans who are flooding Europe with shitskins. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. were just the fall guys. The war was a Jewish war, and these jew-loving krauts aren’t going to touch Perle, Wolfowitz, Kristol, Abrams, Feith, or any other Hebrew maggots. Nor would they try anyone who committed crimes against Aryans during WWII, or any war. Fuck them.

  13. we will never see this in prime time, but wait, what if there was a bounty on these scumbags?

  14. Politics change, and if America goes to war against Russia it’s going to lose big time, and the Russians will hunt all of them down for war crimes trials. While it’s likely the White House will want to scorch the earth and destroy everything on it before that ever happens, it does take a chain of command and then two personnel to turn the key for nuclear deployment, so it might only take one central figure to refuse. Annihilation isn’t quite assured.

  15. The ROOT CAUSE is the demented “heresy” of the christian-zionist pseudo-christians. THAT needs to be fixed.
    JUDAS ISCARIOT is alive and preaching from the pulpit of many American Churches.
    Any “teacher” who diverts Christians into bowing to the Jewish Temple Priests is a JudasGoat “kissing the cheek” of Christ through HIS Flock, for pieces of silver or foul reasons.
    He who blesses Israel Crucifies Christ.
    CHRISTians should welcome any Jew that comes to Jesus.
    CHRISTians cannot support or aid Israel or the Jewish Nation that DENIES the Lamb of God.
    OLD testament / NEW testament
    WAR god / PEACE god
    OLD covenant / NEW covenant
    The ESSENCE of Judaism is VENGEANCE
    ANTI: a prefix meaning “against,” “opposite of,” “antiparticle of,” used in the formation of compound words (anticline); used freely in combination with elements of any origin (antibody; antifreeze; antiknock;;;; ANTICHRIST).
    How can one say “judeo-christian” or “christian-zionism” when Judeo refuses to even ACKNOWLEDGE CHRIST?! Judeo refuses to acknowledge Jesus except to INSULT him and HIS teachings in the NEW Testament. They claim Jesus was the bastard child of a Roman soldier and Mary was a Harlot ……. and “christian” preachers CONDONE this?!?
    The LAMB of GOD was the FINAL sacrifice. Rebuilding the Jewish Temple and resuming bloody animal sacrifices repudiates the Crucifixion, SACRIFICE of Jesus.

    1. Excuse me, but your claim to Christianity being based on ‘FORGIVENESS and LOVE’ rather than the Jewish ‘NEVER FORGIVE or FORGET’ is just not real.

      Actually, I think all three Abrahamic religions should be banned by international law all over the world as criminal terrorist organizations, that threaten all others with eternal torture in hell, and eternal separation from God.

      I think you missed a bit somewhere, like Jesus being all for those who would not follow him being taken to hell and burned alive for eternity.

      In 1984 ‘doublespeak’, the sending to eternal flames of all non-Christians certainly does equal ‘forgive 70 times 7’, but in reality, that has been the problem of Christians for over 2,000 years now, that they have no conception of what love and forgiveness actually are.

      The vedic perspective of the Vaishnavas teaches that in reality, no soul ever leaves the spiritual world, but that when their spiritual attention on the Godhead wanes sufficiently from time to time, they experience an alternate state of consciousness where they wake up in a dream of having a series of incarnations in this dimension, just as when we close our eyes in this material world, the dream world of maya, and lay down and enter into a series of dreams in our sleep, which are dreams within another dream in fact.

      From the Vaishnava perspective, not even one single soul throughout all infinity is ever cut off from God for all eternity, no matter what their religion, or if they are atheist, and not a single soul ever gets burned alive in some hell for all eternity. What God would ever want, or need to do that. Surely, only a DEMON would want, or feel any need, to burn others alive eternally. All souls are eternally part and parcel of the cosmic spiritual body of the Godhead, and only a demon who forgets that beginingless quality and interrelationship between all souls would ever begin to have such nightmarish delusions, such as Jesus had. Only souls who fall away from the Godhead can enter into such insane delusions, and Jesus was clearly one of them. Thank goodness he was only ever a fictitious person anyway.

      Christians, you have all been had by a cruel Jewish joke. Free yourselves, There are a number of other spiritual approaches you can adopt that actually have some genuine spiritual quality, but being party to a cult that believes in burning all others alive will, when you think about it, only separate you further and further from God, kid each other to the contrary though you well might, all to no avail.

      All three Abrahamic religions make the greatest false pretensions of all in claiming to be actually loving and spiritual, but as the Bhagavad Gita says, even the greatest of demons actually considers that they alone are the most pious, the most spiritual, the most loving, the most benevolent of all individuals. It is all a matter of self-delusion with regard to them. How is burning people alive in hell for all eternity loving, or anything at all to do with love and forgiveness? I know some legalistic verse will justify it, but that is just not the point.

      Even in 110 AD and 150 AD Christians were recorded raving about how the satisfaction of God and the saints is never complete unless they can joy in watching the eternal torment in flames of the sinners, who, just as in the Muslim hell, would be clothed again and again in a new body, every time one body burned away.

      And that all comes from a Judaic background of all goyim having come from eternal hell in the first place, to which every last one of them, as eternal and irredeemable demons, must all be returned when the messiah of the Jews Comes.

      Here are some of the milder views of some saints, from a Catholic site;

      Ignatius of Antioch
      “Corrupters of families will not inherit the kingdom of God. And if they who do these things according to the flesh suffer death, how much more if a man corrupt by evil teaching the faith of God for the sake of which Jesus Christ was crucified? A man become so foul will depart into unquenchable fire: and so will anyone who listens to him” (Letter to the Ephesians 16:1–2 [A.D. 110]).”


      Read Hugh Fogelman ; ‘Missionaries, They Do Not Know What They Are Doing’.


      Read hugh Fogleman’s article and you will see why. The whole Jesus story was a con trick, a cruel joke on the ‘goyim’ by their Jewish overlords to make them grovel to, and even be willing to kill others for, and even to be willing to die themselves for, a messiah who actually hated them all.

      When Jesus said quite clearly in the original Bible that no follower of his was ever to go to the Gentiles or the Samaritans, that was what the real Bible said, and Christianity started out as a Jewish sect, quite naturally, as the Jewish messiah could only ever have been a JEW messiah FOR the racist Jews, who believe that ALL Gentiles are only eternal demons from Satan, from hell. And the Essenes were just as racist, whom some say Jesus really came from.

      There have been over 20 different church councils to substantially change the contents of the Bible, all written of in detail by the Rosicrucian Society AMORC, and it was only after a meeting like this that the Bible was changed, so that we see the entirely contradictory new teaching appear in the Gospel of Matthew, compared to the original teaching only to go to Jews and never the Gentiles or Samaritans.

      Christianity is a Trojan horse psychological tool for manipulation of Gentiles used by the Jews, even more so since the Schofield changes to Bible teaching, and has never been fit for purpose as a faith by means of which one might gain true spiritual enlightenment. Christianity merely CLAIMS to be such.

      When Christians were still burning people alive for even daring to read the Bible, some 500 years ago, Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, a genuine incarnation of the Godhead, after He appeared in 1486, in Mayapur, West Bengal, remaining on this Earth for several decades, taught a very deep and compassionate spiritual philosophy, to reform the ancient vedic religion back to it’s original intended level of true spirituality, reminding all the people that He could, how to enter back into their true and eternal beginningless spiritual dimension, within Lord Krishna, to share perfect happiness in association with Him and all His pure devotees there in the spiritual planets, beyond this dream dimension.

      1. Mothman,

        You are a fool to not even consider that Jesus himself would tell you that lying about his STORY is the con – not that HE is a fictional character. Why are people like you and Pat so predisposed to thinking this way?

        Christ and Krishna have similar attributes that YOU characterize as being possessed by Krishna alone. And yet who is the one being demonized by you-know-who?

        What is it that makes Jesus threatening to them to the point of manufacturing elaborate lies that mislead but not Krishna?

      2. @ BROWNHAWK

        Jesus is nothing like Krishna, and nothing to do with Him. No such place as eternal hell exists. Krishna does not teach of such a place or threaten even a single soul with such a place. Krishna does not teach that in order for His spiritual pleasure to be complete, that He needs to constantly witness ‘sinners’ being constantly burned alive in hell.

        No one who worships the demon Jesus will be eligible to dwell in the spiritual world. What kind of qualification to enter heaven is believing in sending everyone else to some hell to be tortured in inconceivable agony in eternal burning flames?

        Are you serious? You can’t see that? Your soul has not been awake for quite some time. Jesus is a classic demon. People who intend to burn all others alive for ever without ever stopping are very sick people, very evil souls, just demons, nothing more. Wake up. Didn’t the fact that Jesus comes from the Jewish religion, the only one that intends to exterminate all Gentiles and send them to hell for eternity, make you even a little suspicious?

        Yahoos don’t like Krishna either. The yahoos say they intend to destroy all other religions.

      1. @ Pat

        “Christians, you have all been had by a cruel Jewish joke.”

        Very likely.


        I am not suggesting that you delete this offensive comment by Potty Mouth Pat but that you put him on permanent monitoring for a week or so until he learns some good manners.

        The above comment is not only off-topic but is a blatant attempt to hurt the feelings of Lasha Darkmoon who is a Christian.

        It’s time you showed this sonofabitch Pat who is the boss on this website. He shouldn’t be allowed to taunt and jeer at Lasha Darkmoon in this disrespectful fashion.

      2. @ Dr David Green

        The fact that Pat is capable of making such a direct attack on Lasha Darkmoon will tell you that he is totally unaware that he is being offensive to Ms Darkmoon in any way.

        Personally, I believe that Mr Darkmoon needs to be insulted a bit more—a project to which I have contributed in my own small way over the last few months—but I think there are better ways to put her down and make her feel small than by taunting her for being a Christian.

        I won’t list all the wondrous ways one could go about humiliating and harassing Ms Darkmoon, but Pat is not going about it the right way in my opinion. His constant needling of Ms Darkmoon is too obvious, too in-your-face, too crude and vulgar and proletarian. It lacks the desired subtlety and ingenuity of the practiced tormentor. It is almost infantile in its hostility and personal hatred of all that Ms Darkmoon stands for.

        The bottom line is that I think the trouble with Pat is that he suffers from the same affliction that all psychopaths suffer from: a total insensitivity to the feelings of other people. Maybe the Parkinson’s disease which he suffers from has dulled his faculties and made him in many ways a human vegetable. How can such a man, little better than a cabbage in front of a computer monitor, conceive the idea of a God? I’m afraid it cannot be done.

        I suggest that the offensive comment be allowed to stand. Don’t bother deleting it. That would only make this human cabbage feel important.

        As for putting the man on permanent monitoring, I would advise against that too. Let him continue his not-too-subtle persecution of Ms Darkmoon. I want to see Ms Darkmoon squirm. I really would like to see this vulnerable woman cry out in pain and experience a slow crucifixion at the hands of the insensitive louts that frequent this website.

        It’s because I love her that I wish to see Ms Darkmoon destroyed.

      3. Dr Dave –

        Thanks for noticing.
        No wonder Alexa ratings are so high.
        My two – 2 – words prompted over 450 words in just two pertinent replies to them.

      4. Miss Ellie! 🙂

        I am glad to click-on here and see that you have deigned to comment! I do SO MUCH enjoy reading you. 🙂

        I think this ‘Dr. Green’ (a physician??) misreads our ‘Pat’. In fact, I have had occasion to speak with Pat several times (both of us were well acquainted with the late Eustace Mullins), and I’d bet-the-farm he very much RESPECTS Lasha. He is NOT anti-Christian. He is anti-STUPIDITY – any religious cover notwithstanding. His mind is as sound as your own.

        And you… It is very obvious you respect Lasha, and ‘know’ her, in your way. I like that in you. Please, let us hear from you more often!

      5. Pat,

        There was a Jesus. The Gospels are his story. Not even the Talmudist’s who hate everything about him would deny his existence as they boast in his persecution and supposed punishment in hell. No one denied his existence until the late 1700’s. Author, Historian, Philosopher Will Durand makes a wonderful,poetic apologia of his existence in his wonderful work “Caesar and Christ” vol 3 in his history of civilization series. Not that those who deny Him would even care to read it. Former Professor of Ancient History, and Writer Dr. Paul L. Maier is also among the great apologists of the existence of the Christ.
        Not that those who deny Him really care. But the truth is – as those who know HIm – existential/ personal cannot deny Him anymore than they can deny knowing a parent. He is that real to us. He makes himself known.

        1. @ Leo

          Don’t worry about this question. We don’t mind posters telling us about their favorite conspiracy theories: such as Hitler’s escape to Argentina or the moon, or about the advanced extraterrestrial civilization hiding out in the center of the hollow earth, or about Christ being a fictional character invented by a bunch of Jews and Romans. They are free to put forward these theories if they wish. What we do object to is when this becomes an obsession with them and they keep on and on about the subject in post after post, trying to create endless distractions and annoy people deliberately.

          Whether this constant harping on about Christ’s non-existence is a covert attack on Lasha Darkmoon and the Christophile administrators of this website — a theory put forward by two posters — is an entirely different question. Personally, I don’t think this is a veiled attack on Lasha and those who run this website. It is more likely to be an honest attempt at free speech by a poster lacking in tact and sensitivity.

      6. @ Gilbert Huntley

        I liked your recent poem. Let us have more.

        As to your friend ‘Pat’, with whom you appear to be in regular telephonic communication, I have my own theories about this most disagreeable individual. Sick in body, sick in mind. These two things go together. A poisonous plant, unaware of its own toxic nature. A self-poisoning entity.

        One can only pity such a human grotesquerie.

        The fact that he hates Lasha Darkmoon and goes all out to hurt her feelings is something I actually approve of and commend. I am not asking your friend to stop. Au contraire, I am hoping he will continue. Since he is toxic by nature, like a poisonous snake, let him fasten his fangs on Lasha Darkmoon and inject her with his deadliest toxins. That is what I am suggesting.

        It will do her good to be ill-treated.

      7. @ Toby

        re the two posts written by “Ellie”

        These two posts by the entity going under the name of “Ellie” are a fake. As a professional style analyst for over 20 years, I am 99% certain that they are written by someone else pretending to be Ellie. The Ellie we all know would never have written this garbage. Do me a favor and check out the email address and IP number of this dubious poster.

        1. @ Sardonicus

          Maybe you and Pat are right. There is something about these posts that rings false. They seem to be written by someone who not only has it in for Pat but who also has it in for Lasha. However, there is no way I can be sure about this by checking out the email addresses and IP numbers. This is because the “original” Ellie K never used the same email address and IP number twice. They were always different. And this one is different too!

          I asked Lasha about this. Her response: “Pat has my full confidence. He is one of our best posters. That’s all you need to remember. As for the two “Ellie” posts, I think these are written by someone else in need of psychotherapy.”

      8. Sard –

        I agree. That is why I did not respond.

        Sentences way too short…. One was only 4 words!!
        And too much tongue-in-cheek.

        And I would never put down Lasha or admin…and Toby knows that.

        The Parkinson ‘cabbage’ didn’t fall for it. 🙂

  16. Bush, Cheney & everyone who has ever had anything to do with the CIA… no names please…

  17. O.K. They did commit War Crimes & Tortures. But, it was only to keep us SAFE !!!
    & of course scared & docile !

    1. To all who feel safe……the logo . Of the Israeli . Mosaad is “Through chaos we shall reign.” you can feel safe because their is no threat…it’s all designed to keep the world in constant fear……
      A,thought…..Since Isreal is soooo concerned about Iran’s alleged nuclear program….why don’t they agree to have their weapons arsenal audited……Israel has never had any weapons audits…..yet they have been stockpiling nuclear and biological weapons for decades…..

  18. how great would it be if these six supercreeps were actually convicted of war crimes in some world court? it would be the greatest thing that ever happened since the american revolution and the bill of rights. but it’s far more likely this so called accusation is designed to fail from the beginning, so that in case any real such case were ever presented it would be thwarted by a lot of pre-determined precedents to be forthcoming. most likely the jew-masons are just using this to update their hit lists on who knows too much. last time i looked – germany was being run by angela merkel, who we’re supposed to believe was indignant at her cellphone being tapped into by us intelligence, with the inference being she was surprised. really? angela merkel doesn’t know about how that works, yet she’s the political boss of germany? for my money – angela merkel is a bloodline descendant from the same vine that gave us uncle adolph. or was it daddy? don’t tell me you don’t see the resemblance. if this charge were to be real, the same way the german people were real against the bolsheviks, then angela is already in place to co-opt the effort, just like uncle adolph did. he ruined the german effort against the “russians” and their allies in washington dirty city and rest of the kosher crowd in the former england, and ran off to paraguay afterwards, leaving the german people to suffer the murderous wrath of international jewry, which they were able to do after they killed general patton, who would not have allowed it. we know by now – that even if these people are using their real names they’re still going to belong to one secret society or another. one way you can tell a genuine leader is if he denounces zionism, which none of the above do, not even putin. as it is now, nobody gets to the upper floors of the pyramid unless they’re approved by the owners of the three cities empire, which uses zionism as one of its control-and-manipulation methodologies. also, i wouldn’t be too quick to call bush and cheney non-jew-ish, or any of the others really. we know bush is a bonesman, like john forbestein cohn kerry, with his murdered heiress wife. the clintons went to yale too. and you saw how fast tim russert died after he asked bush and kerry both about the bonesman thing. the bushes are sherfs from germany. but you’re not supposed to know that. rumsfeld? for my money – he’s a stieny mazeltaver too. i think condeleezza, lady rockefeller, is a straight-up- extra-dimensional reptilian. rice is the same word as race. as in master race. i wouldn’t bet too much on any ever seeing any of these people in jail for war crimes. although hope does remain as long as the german people have not yet been exterminated. they are phasing out nuclear power there, so i hear. that’s a genuine progressive policy. i do wonder, are there any black site prisons in germany anywhere?

  19. This article is misleading. It is not “Germany” as a state but a NGO making these nice noises and nothing will come of it, even though they are well selected war criminals (all Goyim) and Angela Kasner Merkel has discovered her Jewishness not long ago.
    P{assing around petitions will do no good either, but I guess it helps while away time while war crimes are being committed without pause albeit with a new cast of executants.

      1. Seems that Merkel is a dual citizen Polish Judin.
        ANGELA MERKEL is the first child of Horst Kasner, born KAZMIERCZAK, and Herlind Kasner, born JENTZSCH, (according to unconfirmed sources in the US though) born in 1954 in Hamburg and given the name Angela Dorothea Kasner. She has (allegedly) two siblings, brother and sister Irene Marcus. The father, illegitimate child of ANNA RYCHLICKA KAZMIERCZAK and LUDWIK WOJCIECHOWSKI, is a Protestant minister; the mother, a Polish Jew from Galicia, and a teacher. Her maternal grandfather was LUDWIK KAZMIERCZAK, who came from Poznan and fought in the First World War against Germany. Her grandfather was in Haller Army, a unit of Poles who fought in the French army against Germany.

  20. The list of six American is too short. It even miss the two greatest American WAR CRIMINAL – Henry Kissinger and Abraham Foxman. But since German Chancellor Angela Markey is the most trusted ally of the Zionist entity – only the SIX MILLION DIED hoax deniers and pro-Palestinian Muslim leaders are persecuted in Germany.

    On January 29, 2015, a large number of protesters disturbed a US Senate Armed Services Committee hearing in Washington DC, when three former US secretaries of state, Henry Kissinger, Madeleine Albright and George Shultz, all Israel-First Jews, were about to enlighten the committee members on global security issues, in Russia, Iran, Syria, terrorism, etc. The protest was lead by members of anti-war group CODEPINK that called for a citizen arrest of Henry Kissinger as a WAR CRIMINAL.

    John McCain later apologized to Henry Kissinger on behalf of his “uncivilized” fellow goyim.

    Sen. John McCain, one of the top anti-Muslim and pro-Israel US lawmakers, who was chairing the committee, called the protestors “lowlife scum” and said it was “the most disgraceful and despicable demonstration he had ever seen.” He even accused the protesters of threatening ‘God’s Chosen’ Henry Kissinger physically. The COPEPINK co-founder Medea Benjamin (Jewish) denied McCain’s claim.

    “CODEPINK is really proud of our action in the Senate today, speaking out on behalf of the people of Indochina, China, East Timor and peace-loving people everywhere. Henry Kissinger is responsible for the deaths of millions. He’s a murderer, a liar, a crook, and a thug, and should be tried at the Hague,” said Ms Benjamin.

  21. In Germany a lot of politicians got murdered.

    1. Uwe Barschel
    2. Herrenhausen
    3. Möllemann
    3. Petra Kelly (founder of the degenerated green party – she would throw up in the grave seeing what happened to the peace loving green party – which became to a great extend real disgusting war mongers).

    If the occupied Germans would fight their occupation – the Anglos and the French would push the Dresden button bomber Harris (which some of them push already as they love to get all Germans rather killed sooner than later). It’s so disgusting the progrom mood in Germany these days… and really endlessly sad.

    Still, we must fight for justice as the leadership of today is morbid and immoral. Life means nothing to them and it seems that they love to torture and kill humans and other living entities (look at slaughter houses – which seem to be organized like a satanic blood ritual – disgusting the suffering of the animals).

    Germans will rise…. but they will also get used to face the consequences of psychopaths.

    It’s very fucked up, the German occupation, the lies of history, the Jewish and Russian Role in blaming the Germans for their own wrong doings…. (see Kathyn, etc), not the mention all the perverted taboos out there which every adult should have the courage to look at.

    Folks laugh at the taboos of India – which was – is – sex, alcohol, fish, meat, drugs…. here all of that is allowed but…. it’s not allowed to deeply look and speak about all sides of history/

    Hope the justice seeking Germans remain healthy and protected. It’s a good idea to go after the warmongers as they do not have the right to occupy Germany, lie about history and then commit the worst crimes against humanity every day themselves. Hypocrits rule… some guided my the most inhumane dogmas which nobody could ever concoct in their right mind, especially when close to God realization.

    God, these old skeletons of politicians… who got born to only create suffering on earth… wouldn’t it be nice for them to move on into their own respective reactive momenta of their actions. Let them go for good, as they were mere demons in human form. What ever have they done good when the World still flows with the rivers of blood of the innocent, remember, they would do it all in a heartbeat again.

    No morals, not ethic… a loveless life… what a wasted life.

    1. Quote: the Anglos and the French would push the Dresden button bomber Harris ..
      About the Anglos, you could be right. But a very small French minority would do this, & only the dual citizenship minority I’m referring to !

  22. I’m afraid this ain’t gonna happen. Germany is still occupied by US troops – over 100.000. Besides that Germany was and is also part of past and current US war crimes.

    What we should do to name all perpetrators, accomplices and more important we should name all holocausts which happened in the past and still happen now.

  23. I don’t think the ‘died in the wool’ zionist, Merkel will sit idly by and watch her friends and fellow NWO agents get anything besides a tongue lashing. Smells like smoke…..and mirrors. Certainly no NGO has any authority to arrest the pro-zionism gang, since they’ve brought about exactly what their lord and master Israel has demanded – a war between Muslims and Christians, not to mention an overwhelming avalanche of PROFITS! Just ask Silverstein.

    Germany still sits pretty much with its tail between its legs when it comes to identifying the REAL threats to world peace. They tried years ago and got beat up for it.

  24. All these scumbags should be made to dangle at the end of a rope in Times Square.

  25. political soft porn, just a tease offered by jew ratner, would you buy rat poison from someone named ratner?

    anyway, i got this thought of the day, whatever its worth.
    power. what is it. more to the point, jew power.

    there is personal power of a man in his short lived prime, size, strength, athleticism, all gone in a few years, so it is certainly not what is meant by power today, maybe some 3000+ years ago.
    and it is certainly not what is meant by jew power, since they are just slimy invetebrates who can’t even walk properly, they trudge, hunches bouncing on top, oyster lips flapping with effort.

    the power in question takes form of political, military, financial and media power, all of it purposed to control societies like a mindless mechanism and solely in order to sustain and engorge itself on the life juices of these golemized societies.

    ergo, what is meant by power is nothing but parasitical success, from blueprint to execution to constant refinement.
    this is why it is said that power corrupts and what is jew but embodiment of corruption, the rot infected upon the world by the enemy?

    but there is another kind of power, the one that jew would prevent you at all cost from understanding, because this is the power lethal to him.
    the power of independent thinking, from acquiring knowledge and finally, the power of anger.

    this power does not corrupt but cleanses.

    in a roundabout way, darkmoon’s alexa ratings are a power meter that scares the jew witless.

    1. You portray the power of Christ, lobro

      The ultimate independent thinker who angrily threw the money power out of the temple. And you bet your ass they are scared witless and shitless that the ages-long disempowered goyums will finally see them as the impotent soap bubble they really are.


      I wonder how their bunkers are coming along?

      1. No, Jesus believed strongly in usury, so much so that in his teachings on the necessity of it, when he adopted the identity of a nobleman in a story to illustrate his views, he said that anyone who did not wish to serve him on the issue of putting his money in the bank to gain usury should be brought before him and killed.

        Luke 19:11-27 King James Version (KJV)

        11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.

        12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.

        13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

        14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.

        15 And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.

        16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.

        17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.

        18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.

        19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.

        20 And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:

        21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.

        22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:

        23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?

        24 And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.

        25 (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)

        26 For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.

        27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

        So Jesus is indicating through his assumed identity of the nobleman (he always spoke indirectly like that, so as to avoid the possibility of Roman spies being able to say that he himself was adopting any position of authority, instead of Caesar), that if anyone crosses his instruction on this, and thus does not accept his position over them, then that person is to be brought before him and killed no less, whacked just like in the Jewish mafia no less. What kind of God says he will have someone killed if they do not put his money in the bank to gain interest? And still Christians state that Jesus opposed usury because he threw some moneylenders out of the temple. He threw them out for something else, not because he opposed usury, as proven by these verses.

  26. “If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged.”

    Noam Chomsky—-.htm

    I find it bizarre that some people are prosecuted for selling raw milk, yet people who invade, occupy and destroy other countries under false pretenses and are responsible for the maiming and killing of hundreds of thousands of civilians are not held accountable, and nor are the people who are responsible for women in Iraq giving birth to deformed DU babies, or Vietnamese women to deformed Agent Orange babies. It means that if you are a psychopath, you can get away with anything as long as you work for the government and are a member of the club.

    1. Once you have certifiably genocided over a million innocents, you are shortlisted for Nobel Peace, which secures lifetime global immunity.

      I believe that at one time Hitler came close to nomination until they found out that the Holocaust was a giant joke.

    2. We cannot go back … so let us start hanging the remaining presidents up to the present.

    3. Erwin,

      “I find it bizarre that some people are prosecuted for selling raw milk, yet people who invade, occupy and destroy other countries under false pretenses and are responsible for the maiming and killing of hundreds of thousands of civilians are not held accountable”

      It’s not bizarre when you understand why. The people you speak of, most notably Bush, Blair, Brown, Obama and other European heads of state are not prosecuted because those whom they work for have people, whom they own, in charge of the police, who would arrest them, the judiciary who would prosecute them and the editors of the msm who would publish their crimes for the world to see. Oh don’t get me wrong, the msm will name names, but only to show the futility of it all. No policeman will arrest them and as for making a citizen’s arrest, well, even if you manage to, that is not getting beaten by their private security or arrested by the police protecting them, who’s going to prosecute them? There’s more chance of you being done for assault than them found guilty for mass murder!

      In other words, the political puppets become untouchables and immune to prosecution for their crimes by implementing the orders given to them by their superiors. The sooner the public realises that politicians DO NOT WORK FOR THEM, yet take their money in payment, the sooner the better. I won’t hold my breath.

      And on a final note, to illustrate nothing will happen, look at what’s happening now in the monkey media. Leon Britton, a Jew, is now known to be a paedophile. Why all the attention now, days after his death? Why didn’t they arrest him before he died? And Cyril Smith, another nonse. Why didn’t they arrest him? The same with Jimmy Saville? All of these people are protected. Their name’s dirt after they’re dead and? Not much good for the victims. They’ve attacked Rolf Harris, because he doesn’t know much. On the other hand Saville was a top procurer of young boys and girls for the elites. They think they’re appeasing the public by bringing it out now, but they’re not. All of this sells papers and the people will have something to gossip about in their crappy jobs, but that’s more paedos who’ve escaped the net. Those who crave positions of power are paedophiles and psychopaths and should be the last people in the job.

      1. Yes, apparently the UK cops have admitted to losing track of hundreds of abusers.. Cops everywhere are useless thugs..

  27. Maybe it’s all an act— Put those Zionist puppets on trial- and the Court finds them not guilty, thereby nullifying the whole war-crimes matter.

  28. I was a victim of “waterboarding”, but it was not called that back then. My memory of it was not of this lifetime, but from a past life. My body died as a result of it, like drowning. After my body died, I felt forgiveness for the perpetrators; that happened a long time ago.

    Forgiveness is Divine. It did/does not come from me. It is about true repentance or death.

    Spiritually speaking, time IS running out, and forgiveness is not going to last for Eternity.

    Most people in America, and elsewhere, cannot handle True Justice because they reject it.
    There is God’s Law:- . The whole world is not following It.

    Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out to the earth, and his angels (you – Luke 9:55) were cast out with him (Matthew 25:41).

    Time IS running out –

    1. NS –
      What does not exist cannot be ‘running out.’
      YOU should know…. having cycled through…. There is NO SUCH THING….as TIME!!

      Time is an invented representation of trips by Earth-bound entities around the Sun… springing forth…Sol, Ra, Apollo, Helios, Hepa, Mithra, Arinna, Liza, Inti, Lugh(Celtic), Surya, Utu….and many other Sun gods which were credited for making life here.

      Just try to grab some time or make some time…or save it.

      1. “So the Lord, the living entity, material nature and time are all interrelated and are all eternal. However, the other item, karma, is not eternal”

        “Above the modes of nature is eternal time, which is called kala because it changes the shape of everything in the material world”

        Kala – Eternal Time

      2. HP –

        When did this thought first occur, and to whom? (atomic theory surmised in 1803)

        “The complete universe is a manifestation of varieties of entities, beginning from the atoms up to the gigantic universe itself, and all is under the control of the Supreme Lord in His form of kala, or eternal time. The controlling time has different dimensions in relation to particular physical embodiments. There is a time for atomic dissolution and a time for the universal dissolution. There is a time for the annihilation of the body of the human being, and there is a time for the annihilation of the universal body. Also, growth, development and resultant actions all depend on the time factor.”

      3. “The meaning of the Vedanta-sutra is present in Srimad-Bhagavatam. The full purport of the Mahabharata is also there. The commentary of the Brahma-gayatri is also there and fully expanded with all Vedic knowledge. Srimad-Bhagavatam is the supreme Purana, and it was compiled by the Supreme Personality of Godhead in His incarnation as Vyasadeva. There are twelve cantos, 335 chapters and eighteen thousand verses.”
        origin and date


      4. Thanks for the data, HP –

        I noticed a whole lotta believin’ goin’ on from….
        Astabga Saria and Nyayas.

        You know what that means. 😉

      5. To everything there is a season, and a TIME to every purpose under heaven…
        (I don’t reckon I have to cite THAT one, do I ???!) 🙁

        Anyhow, ‘Time’ is relative to whatever/whomever has a Beginning and an Ending. What else would one call it??!! When is Alpha? When is Omega? My own birthdate is in the month of October. October is not July, but both are months, seasons, dates, etc. They are TIMES. When I die will be a ‘Time’ – for me. Not for you. You will have your OWN time. It is all relative to us mortals. Don’t vex yourselves so much by things beyond our perceptions and places. You’ll never know (at least not in THIS lifeTIME).

  29. Great…glad to see that somewhere in the world their are intelligent thinking individuals that maintain some semblance of a moral conscience…hope they get life with the mandate for torturing them…Let’s not stop there …..let’s include their families…would not want them to think their not privileged through exclusion….Also….”the Nuremberg trials”…..try reading “Not Guilty at Nuremberg by Porter…it will give you a new perspective on that farce. While your at it read the trials of Ernst Zendel and Arnold Leese’s “Jewish Ritual Murders,both are excellent…….

  30. The enemy are not Jews. They are counterfeit-Jews (though some are racial Jews). It makes a difference calling them Jews when they are not. Wake-up and stop doing that.
    Revelation 2:9.

    Hitler (the anti-Christ) sought to raise-up the counterfeit-Jews by going after the “Jews” and amalgamating the two together as if they were as one: The Torah with The Talmud.

    The Torah is their enemy. T.H.E.Y. hate Torah Law. How many times must it be said?

    Hitler said the enemy are the Jews, just like the articles / posts on Darkmoon (other websites too). You all have something in common with Hitler. Isn’t that an interesting coincidence? Or is it evident they want to be called Jews (when they are not). They are counterfeit-Jews with no right to occupy the Holy Land; they are not the Lawful owners.

    In a recent article posted by Mr. Henry Makow (who is a so-called Jew), he wrote:-

    “What he [ referring to Netanyahu ] didn’t say: It was Illuminati (Sabbatean) Jews like him who repeatedly tried to destroy their fellow Jews”. End of his anti-Semitic quote.

    How can they have true “fellow Jews”? They cannot not. He means racial Jews who counterfeit-Jews arrogantly call “their lesser brethren”. He is calling racial Jews “their fellow Jews” which is exactly what counterfeit-Jews are hoping everyone will believe.

    Do you see how insidious evil is? They are NOT Jews. They are counterfeit-Jews.

    1. New Song

      You claim to know Hitler’s intentions and go so far as to call him the anti-christ?

      This is laughable. While I credit him with providing important info, it sounds to me like you’re buying too much of what Makow is selling when it comes to how he is convinced that Hitler was a zionist stooge.

      Not that I care to revisit this tired old refrain. Can Dublinmick be far behind? 😉

    2. Rubbish. The 4,000 Torah and Talmud Jews of all possible denominations and persuasions ALL kept their mouths shut on 9/11 and stayed away from the New York WTC, as confirmed by the Israeli Jerusalem Post, who says it has the names and addresses of all 4,000, even keeping their mouths shut to this day, acting as one, totally in lockstep, with total military dedication just like any military intelligence unit would. The Zohar, which is the commentary on the Torah, states clearly that all Gentiles are to be exterminated from the whole world, and their souls sent to hell under the Angel Duma when the messiah, or holy one, comes.

      Don’t the Torah Jews maintain the Israeli threat of the Samson Option nuclear bombs over all the world as well, alongside the Ashkenazim Jews, just as they also participated together in the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the WTC? Don’t they all live in Israel together? The Chabad Lubavitchers claim that they have reincarnated, as all Jews do, for thousands of years only as Jews. One would think that Jews themselves would know who Jews are. Did any ‘good’ Torah Jews, that Jesus acknowledges as genuine, step forward and tell the FBI of the coming attacks on the WTC, or attempt to stop the Middle East wars, which have claimed millions of lives so far according to official UN figures even in Iraq alone. No, they didn’t, and didn’t the late Torah-believing Israeli Shas Party leader Rabbi Ovadia Yosef say that all Gentiles were only created to serve the Jews, which was the only reason that they get a long life ‘like donkeys’, as he said (and if they don’t serve the Jews, it naturally follows, they obviously get a short life, as we have seen in Iraq, Germany, and Libya and other places). That is obviously something that Jesus would believe in too yes? Surely he said that he had not come to oppose or deny any words of the law or the prophets, but to fulfil them, so he must have come to fulfil the intended killing of the Gentiles and their being sent to hell, and their being enslaved by the Jews before that. Did Jesus not instruct slaves to be obedient unto their masters?

      1. @ Mothman

        Your anti-Christian diatribes will naturally appeal to the few anti-Christian agitators on this site and especially to any Jews reading your infantile and ridiculous ravings. I would like to remind you, however, of two things you appear to have forgotten:

        1. The subject matter of this tread is “Germany plans to put Bush and Cheney on trial for war crimes.” It has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. Still less, has it anything to do with the Torah, the Zohar, the Talmud, or Christ’s attitude to usury and slavery.

        2. The administrators of this website happen to be Christian and do not share your puerile and misguided animosity to Jesus Christ. So any attempt of yours to rubbish Christianity on this site will be interpreted as a direct or covert attack on the administrators of this website. It will also be interpreted as a direct insult to people like me who happen to have been brought up by Christian parents who lived good moral lives and hated evil and injustice in any form — the fruit of traditional moral values, not the base Jewish iconoclastic values you appear to support.

        I am not going to enter into further discussion with you, Mr Mothman, because I am sure this is just what you want: to introduce irrelevant distractions and steer everyone off-topic — a typical Zionist troll tactic calculated to derail discussion.

        If you wish to go on attacking Jesus Christ, I have two suggestions for you: (1) choose a more appropriate website for your axe-grinding, i.e., a Christ-bashing site. (2) Seek out a psychotherapist and discuss your problems with him. This website is not a suitable place for the parading of your psychological sores.

      2. Mothman –

        Comments like yours are what causes the ratings to go up. People want to see who is going to ‘whup up on ya’ if you can stand the heat.

        I never read anywhere here that only pro-Christian comments are accepted on this site. Even many articles are by admitted anti-Christian writers.

        I do not agree with anybody here. I comment. Then, I get attacked personally.That is the nature of many blog commenters. Their way or the highway.

        If everyone agreed there would be NO NEED for a comment section. We would never learn what others, even enemies, are thinking and stating.

        This site is a revelation….and VERY useful for good. I have learned a lot here…..between taking bashings. 🙂

      3. actually sard, i must disagree even though you know perfectly that i consider jesus to have been the highest quality human that ever lived (provided he is not a jew 😉 in which case he becomes the highest quality jew that ever lived, a mere curiosity to me ).

        because mothman makes many valid points and not everyone has to pitch a perfect shutout.
        pat is right, even though he is often wrong.
        the idea is to get people to use own heads for stuff other than nodding in united obedience.

      4. @ lobro

        I don’t think you or Pat understand the point I am making. I am not demanding censorship of all comments attacking Christianity. I am following exactly the same line YOU do, and have repeatedly done, over similar irritating comments sent in by DublinMick and Gabreal Jones about Hitler’s escape to Argentina and how he loved Evan Braun to defecate upon his chest.

        If I remember correctly, you objected to these comments for two reasons: (a) because they were meant to derail discussion and create a distraction by getting everyone to talk about Hitler incessantly and go completely off the point, and (b) because of the number of times they kept banging on about this subject, ad infinitum, as if they had an axe to grind and had no wish to discuss any other subject but Hitler, Argentina and defecation.

        I take the SAME attitude to Mothman as YOU take to DublinMick and Gabreal Jones. So your objection to my critique of Mothman smacks to me very much of double standards.

        The subject of this thread is “Germany plans to put Bush and Cheney on trial for war crimes.” It is NOT about Christ. It is NOT about slavery and usury and Christ’s purported support of slavery and usury. It is NOT about Hitler’s escape to Argentina. It is NOT about Eva Braun’s defecatory habits. It is NOT about Chinese ceramics! 🙂

        What you and Pat also seem to forget is that whatever DublinMick and Gabreal Jones said about Hitler was in no way offensive to Admin. Why should it affect Lasha or Monty if someone says Evan Braun loved to shit upon Hitler? However, to keep on and on forever like a rusty violin about Christ’s non-existence as well as his support of slavery and usury can only be deeply wounding to Christians like Lasha and Monty, not to mention myself.

        As an astute logician, perhaps you need to ask yourself how someone who did not even *exist* somehow managed to give his full support to slavery and usury!?! 🙂

        I see the chronic Christ Basher as an agent for the Jews. Or a Useful Idiot for the Jews. Anyone who keeps on bashing Christ is doing the Jew’s dirty work for him. Period.

        Even an atheist like Kevin MacDonald does not allow Christ bashing on his site because he is smart enough to know that Christianity, for all its faults, is the last bastion against Talmudic Jewry. Throughout the centuries, it has been Christianity and Christianity alone that has kept the Jews in check. That all changed in 1965 with Vatican II when the Catholic Church did a historic U-turn and decided to let the Church become a branch of the synagogue.

        It’s been all the way downhill since then.

      5. @ Pat

        TO MOTHMAN: “Comments like yours are what causes the ratings to go up.”

        I disagree. Most people who visit this website do so to read the articles. Only a handful of people linger to read the comments. The comments would therefore hardly affect the ratings.

        Proof? Yes, there is proof that comments contribute very little to high ratings. When Kevin MacDonald decided to terminate all comments on his website, his Alexa ratings did not suddenly plunge. They remained almost exactly the same. When he reintroduced comments about six months later, his ratings did not suddenly shoot up. They remained the same.

        BTW, the commentariat on the Occidental Observer is one of the best . . . and yet they contributed little or nothing to the site’s high ratings.

        I could be wrong of course. Maybe this site would completely collapse if star posters like Lobro and you suddenly left. Maybe readers are flooding in to gather up the gems of wisdom scattered with such largesse by brilliant commenters like you. 🙂

        I doubt it though. Most people visit a site to read its articles.

      6. Sard –

        For the record… Don’t lump me in with lobro..on the D-Mick deals…or others.

        I have NEVER asked that anyone’s comments be deleted or be restricted or banned.

        I enjoy reading the confront. Provides for learning moments.

      7. @ SARDONICUS

        Then shut up you noisy troll and don’t bother writing any of your irrelevant blather to me in the first place

        What I have written about Jesus is absolutely undeniable, pure common sense, the words in the Bible mean to say exactly what they do say, full stop. Why would those words of Jesus be written to have any different or opposite meaning? But just like any silly crypto, like the sorts of people who call Hitler a Jewish agent, you also start plopping put verbal diarrhoea, falsely asserting me to be a Zionist troll. Take a good look at my site, and you will see I am no Zionist you butthole.

        I am totally for the complete dissolution of the state of Israel and the complete banning by international law throughout the entire world of the demonic criminal terrorist death cult called Judaism, which Christianity and Islam were both deliberately generated from directly, obviously based on the same infantile fairy tale of Jesus. I would also like them too to be banned by international law also, ultimately, because any belief system that threatens all other people with being tortured alive in some hell or other for all eternity, is quite frankly dementedly insane and demonically evil, and is flagrantly in violation of any and all human rights. Why should that reasoning of mine offend any sane person? Do you find burning people alive to be normal, sane and healthy? Did I need a religion like Christianity to see how evil the Jewish belief system is? No I didn’t, and nor does anyone need ‘Jesus’ to see through the evil that is Judaism, or to reject it, in both it’s Torah and Talmud worshipping forms.

        One only needs to read Judaic teachings like those in ‘The Kings Torah’, and see the article by Alison Weir, from CounterPunch; “Why is the US Honoring a Racist Rabbi”, to see the violent and demonic genocidal racist insanity of the Judaic religion for what it is. And Christians say that Jesus is the messiah foretold in the JEWISH religion (never in any Gentile religion). Ever thought that is a teeny little bit odd?

        Remember that the Zohar commentary on the Torah also states that when the Jewish messiah comes, all Gentile souls will be sent to hell under the Angel Duma, annihilated en masse in other words, before their souls are sent to dwell in hell.

        “All Israelites will have a part in the future world – The Goyim, at the end of the world will be handed over to the angel Duma and sent down to hell”.
        Zohar, Shemoth, Toldoth Noah, Lekh-Lekha .

        “Happy will be the lost of Israel, whom the Holy One, blessed be He, has chosen from amongst the Goyim, of whom the Scriptures say: ”Their work is but vanity, it is an illusion at which we must laugh, they will all perish when God visits them in His wrath.’ At the moment when the Holy One, blessed be He, will exterminate all the Goyim of the world, Israel alone will subsist, even as it is written: ‘ ‘The Lord alone will appear great on that day! …’”
        Zohar, Vayshlah 177b

        “It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah.”
        Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5

        “Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human.”
        Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b

        Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.

        Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog (“Even the best of the gentiles should all be killed”).

        This passage is from the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as quoted by the 1907 Jewish Encyclopedia, published by Funk and Wagnalls and compiled by Isidore Singer, under the entry, “Gentile,” (p. 617).

        This original Talmud passage has been concealed in translation. The Jewish Encyclopedia states that, “…in the various versions the reading has been altered, ‘The best among the Egyptians’ being generally substituted.” In the Soncino version: “the best of the heathens” (Minor Tractates, Soferim 41a-b].

        So understanding that any real God of love and forgiveness does not need to, or intend to burn all others alive for all eternity, without ever stopping, necessitates me needing a psychotherapist does it? Funny how Jesus wants to torture all non-followers for all eternity just like Judaism does, isn’t it? No connection with the the Judaic idea of all Gentiles having come from some eternal hell is there I suppose?

        Well, the fact that you choose to attempt to vindicate the sadism of Christianity just tells me that your soul is still totally dead, without any trace of feeling, not even a blip. You might try try develop a spiritual conscience about how awful that unnecessary suffering of all those condemned souls will be, and then soften your beliefs by choosing some better religion.

        I have not posted any comment on this site to attack Lasha Darkmoon, whose writings I happen to enjoy reading. I have no animosity towards her whatsoever, and you can understand I hope from the nature of my comment to you that I am a very direct person, and say what I mean. The fact that you feel the need to attempt to psychologically manipulate Lasha Darkmoon to believe that I do wish to, tells me very clearly that you are rather sinister.

        I understand fully that Jesus was never a person with any genuine historicity, but merely a created personality, and wrote of him in that understanding, so when you try to make a clever point like how can I be criticizing teachings of Jesus if I believe he never existed, you are truly infantile.

        Don’t try and lecture me about being off topic, since my earlier few words on here were in response to other comments in the thread, and have been written about by of you quite excessively in several massive comments on this thread, and your comments really do do exactly what you falsely claim I was doing, as you manipulatively try to whip up a shitstorm.

        If you can provide some genuine reasons to provide alternative understanding to what I wrote, then you should have done just that, but you cannot, because I am totally correct, so instead you create a huge smokescreen with your bitching. I hardly ever comment on this site in fact.

        QUOTE, YOUR WORDS; “However, to keep on and on forever like a rusty violin about Christ’s non-existence as well as his support of slavery and usury can only be deeply wounding to Christians like Lasha and Monty, not to mention myself.” What a sack of shit you wrote here, as the Jesus in the Bible story does indeed tell slaves to be obedient, and he does indeed say what he says about usury, but you say that is ‘deeply wounding’ to you, and you then manipulatively try to drag others into having been similarly ‘insulted’. You are a pompous, sanctimonious prick.

        Oh, and what a very good idea it is for some people in Germany to wish to try to put Bush and Cheney on trial for war crimes. I do not think they will succeed however, still being a military occupied slave country under the control of the US Judaics, which is extremely sad.

        1. @ Mothman

          Re Hell

          You make some good points and I accept you have your heart in the right place as a bona-fide anti-Zionist. But you are mistaken about almost everything. You have decided in your naive and unschooled simplicity that hell is a PLACE, a FIERY FURNACE, to which the BODIES of dead men are consigned after death, if they have sinned mortally, there to suffer EVERLASTING TORMENTS without hope of remission.

          The wisest Christian theologians see this as a misconception of hell. To them, for a start, hell is not a place but a state of mind. And the torment is not PHYSICAL pain but the mental pain of separation from God and his mercy. And Hell is not everlasting but ends when the sinner experiences a change of mind. In short, Hell is more like the Catholic idea of purgatory.

          I would be the first to reject Christianity if I actually believed that Hell is anything like you imagine it to be. You are a victim, Mr Mothman, of your own misconception of hell. Hell is nothing like you imagine it to be.

        2. @ Mothman

          Re usury

          Your comments about Christ’s so-called championing of usury are even more misguided and inaccurate than your distorted view of hell. The only reference to usury Christ makes in the New Testament is in the Parable of the Talents: “Well then, you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers, so that when I returned I would have received it back with interest..” — Matthew 25:27

          And again:

          “Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow. Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?” —Luke 19:22-23

          You conveniently forget that it is NOT Christ himself saying these words. It is the CONVENTIONAL JEWISH VIEWPOINT of the typical Jewish usurer being expressed here, a usurer whom Christ went on to CONDEMN.

          You forgot to quote THESE words, Mr Mothman, about HOW IT IS GOOD TO LEND MONEY TO PEOPLE AND TAKE NOTHING IN RETURN! One is actually told by Christ not only NOT to accept interest but to forgive your debtor the PRINCIPAL, i.e., let him off COMPLETELY!!!

          “And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.” —Luke 6:34-35

          Tell me, Mr Mothman, is this your idea of USURY — “Love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back.

          Christ here is not only AGAINST usury, root and branch, but is actually telling you to let your debtor off COMPLETELY — to accept NOTHING in return.

          Yes sir, I don’t think we need to accept lessons in Christianity from an ignoramus like you! Take a look at this, Mothman:

          The caption says:

          “Christ drives the Usurers out of the Temple, a woodcut by Lucas Cranach the Elder in Passionary of Christ and Antichrist.”

          1. @ Mothman

            If Christ had been FOR usury, as you falsely and fatuously claim, do you think the Catholic Church would have been so emphatically AGAINST usury? Here, read this:

            St. Thomas Aquinas, the leading scholastic theologian of the Roman Catholic Church, argued charging of interest is wrong because it amounts to “double charging”, charging for both the thing and the use of the thing. Aquinas said this would be morally wrong in the same way as if one sold a bottle of wine, charged for the bottle of wine, and then charged for the person using the wine to actually drink it.”


      8. @ Sardonicus

        I don’t think this Mothman character has a leg to stand on. I guess this is the best these ill-informed Christ bashers can do: distort the New Testament and take quotes out of context.

        As you say:

        Tell me, Mr Mothman, is this your idea of USURY — “Love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back.”

        Apparently this is Mothman’s idea of “usury”: Lend and let your debtor off completely, expecting neither interest nor principal! 🙂

        Whew, what an idiot!

      9. Sard, I’ll try to be as brief as phone keyboard allows.
        I am no fan of Mothman.
        When I do object strongly to someone’s presence is when they noxiously grind on and on about a single topic, clearly offensively and disagreeably to many commenters without pause.
        This is what Dublinmick and Jones specialize in.

        Mothman ranges over variety of issues, often informatively.
        He doesn’t call mother of Jesus a slut, only questions his historical existence which so far is rather unproven and an article of faith.
        It is in his right to doubt in a civil way, like people ask whether Shakespeare or Plato were fictional characters.

        As to whether this is offensive to Lasha, let her say that and banish him herself, it is her prerogative only.

        After all, wasn’t it her who called Christ a kike just the other day?

        I can’t say I was overjoyed but WTF?
        She may well be right and I was the only one publicly professing displeasure.

        To be honest, whether Jesus was a Jew or didn’t exist at all is same difference to me.

        That I insist that he was not a Yid is my personal choice.
        Certainly, if he didn’t exist, he wasn’t a Jew, so that is a small silver lining, afaiac.

        Judas definitely existed and for purposes of this blog, that’s all that matters.

      10. Everyone interprets scriptures, and religeous writings in their own way, and should be allowed to do so, and the fact is that religeon is probably the single most reason for intolerance, poverty, and misery, on a massive scale, which plays very nicely into the jewish agenda. We have the takfiri terrorists chopping off heads in the name of religeon, and Lieberman threatening the same, and so-called christians have certainly done their fair share of torture and killing. I suppose there is no good reason for anyone to point a finger at anyone else. Maybe everyone should learn to practise a little tolerance and not be so superior, and tight assed..


      Well, also Jesus said not to go to the Gentiles or the Samaritans in the Gospel of Matthew didn’t he?

      King James Bible Matthew 10.5
      “These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not”

      King James Bible Ecclesiastes 9.8
      Let thy garments be always white; and let thy head lack no ointment.

      But the usual colour worn by Christians to church is black.

      Matthew 23:8-10, ““But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9 “And do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.”

      But Christians call the priests and vicars ‘Father” directly putting the vicar or priest (who should not even exist according to these instructions) in a usurpers position, above that of God., which is surely a very major and totally fundamental error.

      Also, the NT Bible also states that since Jesus has come, that temples of mere base material stone should no longer be built, these now being entirely redundant, having served their function, as they were only non-living analogous representations of the actually living spiritual outer temples and inner holy of holies yet to come.

      Such base stone temples are now totally redundant, as Jesus, the foundation stone of the long awaited living temple made of living souls is now present, with all other temple stones being the now living souls of all the disciples in Christ.

      So the temple now is to be entirely living, a temple not of mere material stones, but of living souls, but Christians just never got it, and still go on building physical material Cathedrals and Churches, entirely missing the spiritual essence of the church itself, looking still to mere stone, and not truly to the spirit as they should.

      And you say that I do not comprehend the Christian religion. The fact is, Christians themselves do not seem to be able to comprehend it, because the scriptures are totally contradictory, and the spiritual essence of God is lacking, so that it is not possible for any Christians to understand anything about God. That is what happens when people submit to being members of an utterly brutal religion, which, like I said, even burned alive Christians for merely reading the Bible, up till the sixteenth century it says here in this article; and before that burned people to death merely for not being Christians, and to force others to be scared into becoming Christians. A lot like ISIS really, that being another creation of the Jews. The Jews need people to become Muslims and Christians.

      You see, there is so much evidence of Christians doing entirely the opposite of what the Bible tells them to, on a huge and organized scale, like the churches are deliberately actually instructing their congregations to give a huge collective finger to God, quite deliberately misleading them, and I at least can understand why that is, whilst others doggedly continue trying desperately to wring some sense out of it all, when they were never supposed to be able to in the first place, that actually being the entire point of Christianity.

      So, I think Jesus really is asking for interest to be collected on his money in the bank, and yes, I do understand that he is also saying elsewhere to be doing something else, because just like where Jesus says never to go to Gentiles in Matthew, and later on the instruction is given for Christians to also go to Gentiles, leaving the other entirely contradictory instruction still present, the Bible is full of that rubbish, and where the written form of that is lacking, the Christians themselves make up for that lack of diametrically opposed written instruction by simply doing the very opposite of what is written for them to do anyway, encouraged even by their vicars and priests in that, as I have illustrated, though of course, the Bible says that all are to be brothers, with only the One God above them directly.

      I am not impressed by the Bible, the vicars and priests, the Pope, or Christianity in the slightest, especially not by the twaddle about hell not being a fiery place, or by the twaddle about it just being a state of mind, or by the twaddle about it just being temporary till we make our decision to come back to God.

      Second Clement
      “If we do the will of Christ, we shall obtain rest; but if not, if we neglect his commandments, nothing will rescue us from eternal punishment” (Second Clement 5:5 [A.D. 150]).

      “But when they see how those who have sinned and who have denied Jesus by their words or by their deeds are punished with terrible torture in unquenchable fire, the righteous, who have done good, and who have endured tortures and have hated the luxuries of life, will give glory to their God saying, ‘There shall be hope for him that has served God with all his heart!’” (ibid., 17:7).

      Anyway, I will leave it here if no one follows up, as I have said my piece, and leave it up to your consciences whether or not you think Christianity really is spiritual. I don’t think it is, and think you are all in grave spiritual danger as long as you try to find security in that state of self-delusion, which has been inflicted on you by the Bible and the churches. If you want real spiritual security from the Jewish demons, you are going to need far better than Christianity to raise you to a sufficiently elevated spiritual platform. Just look at the confusion within Christianity and even Islam through the centuries, and if you consider more deeply, you can see that that confusion has all been to the advantage of the Jews, and that is why they want you to remain Christians, just as the Mossad ISIS want and need people to be Muslims, contradictory though that may seem at first sight.

      1. Pharisees always confuse gentiles. They train the whole cult to do so. They are experts.

  31. One thing at a time, first things first, etc. Arrest the most obvious suspects! At least let’s stop the torture chamber and let a few of these innocent folks return home. I had an intuition it might be the Germans… well, I also thought it might be the Russians but we’re taking care of that, aren’t we? You see Germans and Russians have already experienced the dark side of the NWO and unfortunately we Americans have not. We still believe what we read in the newspapers (or at least some of us still do). But what is the NWO and who does it represent? On this news site it’s jewish, jewish, jewish…and I have to admit there are far too many Jewish names in positions of power to completely dismiss the idea. And no doubt about it 9 11 was an Israeli/U.S. crime to initiate the war on terror, but was it also secretly the opening magical rite of a satanic cult? Who knows or for that matter does it matter? The obvious criminals were the people in power who at the very least were too weak willed or duped to defend the American Constitution that they had taken an oath to defend. Yes, no tears shed…let’s get um! Before the shadow government gets us, whomever they are.

      1. Ah ha! It’s as many have suspected. He is one of them! This latest assassination thing then… First impressions are that obviously someone’s trying to make him look bad with some sort of false flag. But that is so obvious ( even the msm is saying it ), that it’s also a perfect excuse for Putin to knock someone off. Anybody with any sense knows that he’s a target for these sort of things and he can easily be believed if he claims a false flag type event. So it could be a false false flag. He hasn’t directly claimed a false flag though. He’s using the old ‘Islamic terrorist’ thing like our side always does. But then the ‘Islamic terrorists’ are the tools of the West. So it does look like he’s nod and winking toward the idea of a false flag. So he still wants us to believe he’s being set up. ie. a false false flag. Very sneaky and a little bit confusing. But then I’m a conspiracy theorist, so I think it’s most probably a false false false flag. Anyway, I blame the Jews.

      2. SL-
        I doubt Putin is a Jew. He favors Jews. He was raised by them in part. His judo buddy and good childhood friend is a Jew.

        Putin’s Jewish friend makes money off the Olympics
        Posted on February 9, 2014 by Streicher’s Ghost

        LA Times reports:
        Several of the companies chosen to remake Sochi for the Olympics are owned or co-owned by Arkady Rotenberg, a childhood friend of Putin. News reports and Russian watchdogs say Rotenberg’s Sochi contracts alone are worth more than $7 billion, which rivals the entire cost for the 2010 Vancouver Winter Games.

  32. Fellow Bloggers:
    The jewish conspiracy is unravelling. However, the crypto-jew, hidden hand conspiracy goes on unnoticed. Angela Merkel is mentioned in that light. What about Putin, the Kiev government oligarchs – Arsenyi Yatseniuk, Petro Poroshenko, Igor Kolomoisky, etc, John Kerry, Victoria Nuland, General Wesley Clark, Pope John Paul 2, and on and on and on. They are everywhere. They are like Mossad’s motto – war by deception. This story, if it continues, shows that Germany and then Europe is fed up with American hegemonic interference, and will eventually look East to Russia/China for future economic prosperity. America is doomed, sooner or later. The truth would shatter the American sheeples’ comfort zone. Thanks, Norbert.

    1. Norbert,

      “America is doomed, sooner or later.”

      And this is exactly what they want. America is a superpower. It’s more powerful than Russia and China. The elites have used America for what they need and once they’ve destroyed themselves through constant warfaring in the middle east, the elites will have killed two birds with one stone. They will still control Europe, who through them will then reach out to Russia and China as you said and start infecting them, as they have America.

      If however there was another American revolution but this time completely cleaning the slate – extinction of the main families, federal reserve etc, kicking out the Crown and ending free trade, then it would pose a massive threat to the control mechanism. Hopefully the same would be going on in Europe too.
      Jews are shooting themselves in the foot over the Gilad Atzmon affair here in the UK and showing just why there is dislike of Jewry. I don’t like to use the word antisemitism for obvious reasons.

      What needs to be done is to thwart the plan of Jewry and fire it right back at them. That is a revolution started by us and finished by us, on our terms, not theirs.

      1. Harbinger –

        I said before: “My plan would be to use the Jew, rather than the Jew using goyim. Turn their cult against them.”

        You stated it in other words here: “What needs to be done is to thwart the plan of Jewry and fire it right back at them. That is a revolution started by us and finished by us, on our terms, not theirs.

        Thanks for the agreement.

      2. Pat,

        With all due respect, we’re still in ‘part’ disagreement if not through miscommunication.

        I don’t agree in using the Jews but I am agreeing in stopping them from using the goyim. I want to keep the Jews completely out of any goyim revolution. I don’t want to give them any positions of power whatsoever, as they would slip into your ‘Caesar’ scenario you explained above. You wouldn’t need to turn their cult against them, for without any authority over the goyim, their cult is useless.

        To make a comparison; Jews have their authority over us because they control the institutions with which to manipulate our minds. Remove their authority and they can’t manipulate anyone. It would simply be like listening to some idiot ranting away in your ear about how reality should be but without any means of actually implying it. The minute they start trying to move into politics, the judiciary, the msm, academia etc is when you simply say “No, you can’t come in. Your track record has proven that allowing the Jew to control is like giving a one year old a loaded machine gun.”

        I’m sure that if you took a Jewish baby away and brought it up as a Christian/another faith/no faith, never knowing about Judaism and its ethnocentric, supremacist beliefs there wouldn’t be a problem. Jews are a problem because they’re indoctrinated at a young age on how to behave, which is: heads they win tails we lose..

      3. “Jews are a problem because they’re indoctrinated at a young age on how to behave,..”

        Yes, Harbinger. They are a cult.

  33. Torturers should be banned from Earth but who could ban them if they are constantly at the helm?

  34. Norbert has joined the OPTIMISTIC chorus that, as he says, “The jewish conspiracy is unravelling.”
    Over on Veterans Today they are saying Bibi Netanyahu will never again address the American Congress; his days are over. (Want to bet on that?)
    And in line with this optimism, there are writers saying that several members of Congress “will get” the missing 28 pages of the official 9/11 report published for the public to read; and, therefore, look out Jews and Saudis.
    For someone like me who has all the records going back over 60 years, such optimism is “coming out of the mouths of babes.”
    Everything happening now has happened many times before – meaning American, dual-citizen Jews have long been implicated in devious and diabolical plots against humanity; and have got away with complete impunity.
    BUT NOTHING HAS EVER BEEN DONE, WHICH IS WHY JEWS ARE RUNNING RAMPANT WITH POWER IN THE WESTERN WORLD! They are at the zenith of their POWERS, despite all this temporal optimism.
    None of you can grasp the vile trickery, hypocrisy, doublespeak and devilish chicanery engaged in by the vast majority of Jews. They sit in the backrooms as “the hidden hands” which control all the puppet strings of the stupefied, self-devouring Goyim. They play games to fool you, using your idiot politicians whatever way they like. Their televiewers stupefy you with lies, commands and filth!
    As I’ve said, they convincingly play-off all sides simultaneously and out of this Talmudic-Hegelian DIALECTICISM (the continual posing of thesis against is antithesis) they always achieve the “new thesis” and/or desired result for them.
    The Anglo-Saxon, Goyim mind simply cannot understand this process! It is beyond nearly all you comments’ people. You cannot even start to imagine such EVIL! Your naive scribblings give you away all the time!
    Look at what is left of the land ceded to the Palestinian Arabs in 1948! They occupy the small, highly fragmented parts of the moth/Israel-Jew eaten rug. They are imprisoned with limited food and other essentials of living. They are surrounded in security walls and minefields. Every now and then the Israeli Knesset organizes their form of a turkey shoot and 1,000’s more Arabs are put to the sword. Even today 1,209 new Messianic settlers’ units are being built in East Jerusalem on land ceded to the Arabs. American taxpayers’ money largely pays for these new condominiums.
    Similarly, look at how we Westerners are being increasingly enslaved and made redundant. Our appetites are fed with phantasmagoria. superstition and incantations; and our minds are filled with carnal thoughts and convolutions.
    Remember, with the Jews it is 1 step forward, 2 steps back and 3 steps forward ad infinitum.
    “JEWS RULE PLANET EARTH IN THE YEAR 2015 AD”; or so future history books will say.
    Welcome to the Jewish Century!

    1. Max –

      What I like to caution myself against is blanket condemnation. There are too many culpable to confine guilt exclusively to the jew – besides, what about Revelations 3:9, cited, above, by New Song?? Indescriminate persecution decimates good character, and lowers us to among the ranks of those against whom we aim our grievance. Some, here, would call me ‘jewish’ because I like the Old Testament (as well as the New Testament). By that token, should I merit the same condemnation directed at culpable (false) Jews? That act would force most men to oppose those with whom they should ally. The confusion is never-ending. We jump ‘out-of-the-frying-pan-into-the-fire’.

      1. Gilby, while you rack your brains whether he is a real Jew, a good Jew. crypto Jew deflecting anger onto sacrificial goats or simply muddying waters to secure escape route, he has eaten your lunch just like previously since the “time immemorial” and will continue to fool you into the indefinite future.

        You can’t play on his turf, by his rules devised specifically to mesmerize Goy and expect a fair shake of the dice … “work within” the system, what a laugh.

        When some aggressive drunk swings a pool cue in a bar at you, do you read him Marquis de Queensbury rules and how he should be at home helping wife with vacuuming chores?
        Me neither.

  35. Fellow Bloggers:
    All of you have said true things, but you all forget the ultimate authority of history – the Bible.
    In the Bible- Book of Revelation, it says that Israel/Israelites/Jews will be surronded by the worlds’ armies. No human effort can save them. 2/3rds will be killed and only 1/3rd will reamain alive and transported to safety in Petra/Bozra. Only devine intervention will save that 1/3rd, known as the remnant. Thus Israel will eventually be punished as will the rest of the world. God’s rule will take over. In addition Germany will again be the nation that will lead this charge against Israel. Germany backed by the Vatican Pope Francis or his ilk. Germany’s forefathers were the Assyrians. Along with Eqypt, Babylon, Greek descended Seleucid empire and Roman empire, were the only other powers/empires that punished Israel and her descendants. Germany will lead this new Roman Empire as the EU to punish Israel in modern history. The Bible proclaims it. Read it and weep or rejoice! Thanks, Norbert.

    1. What utter nonsense Norbert … the Bible nonsense has to be recognized , exposed for what it is complete nonsense written about 750 BC by Jewish myth makers about an imaginary God who chose the Jews as his special favorite people & gave them title to Eretz Israel to include Palestine , parts of Iraq Lebanon & more.
      There is no heaven ,hell God or the Devil so grow up & escape from that brainwashed mindset you have.

  36. Haven’t read the responses.

    I hope Germany doesn’t cave to pressure from the US. I have read that another county (Ecuador?) has convicted Cheney and Bush for crimes against humanity. I hope this catches on with the rest of the world, and the dominoes fall. The Bush-Cheney gang of liars, murderers, and thieves should be tried on many more crimes against humanity as well. This group is uniquely perverted in the way they torture people most if not all are innocent victims. On deck to the gallows, Nut N Yahoo and his sado – masochistic fairy band of homoerotic torturers who “advised” the perversions ( not that Bushwhacker or Little Dick needed any help…but friends do like to share). I am sure numerous “videos” of these events in circulation at various private parties in WDC and Tel Aviv as I write this. May fire come down from Heaven and consume them…just a wishful thought.

  37. @Sardonicus

    Sardonicus, I just got back on this thing (I’m in my kitchen, and it is raining, outside), and had been thinking about Ellie’s comment often, this morning past (it is about 1:30pm, here, as I write). What you say rings true, but I want to add that she(?) was directing her post to a particular individual (myself) instead of a general audience – if that could make a difference in your analysis. You are a very astute and perceptive man, and as much as I would trust your discernment, there is, still, doubt…

    The surprising, sophisticated vitriole Miss Ellie (we must call her that, for now) directs against Lasha calls to mind some truth of character in that it is, indeed, a female comment. Females are characteristically capricious, and easily offended – especially very WEALTHY and attractive females, accustomed to having their own ways about most things. (I’d have to concede that the characteristic is not absent in men, either.)

    Having said that, in my gut I feel it IS our Miss Ellie, and will continue with that until convinced otherwise, no disrespect to you intended or wanted. You are First Class, IMO (you even made allowances for Pat, in the end, whom I respect).

    Ellie, I wish you wouldn’t be so hard on EITHER of them. Without Lasha’s essence, this forum wouldn’t function well. Without her obvious degree of intelligence and understanding, you, yourself, would not CARE enough to even hate her. Think about it, fine lady. I think I like you very much, and will be more than happy to write an original piece of poetry just for you, here – but only with Lasha’s permission and approval. You see, I was born in the Chinese ‘Year of the Dog’, and I am very loyal – to BOTH of you. (Once I like you, it’s hard to beat me away from defending you.) 🙂

    Enough said.

    1. @ Gilbert Huntly

      Gilby, you win first prize for courtesy and kindness and being the all-round Perfect American Gentleman! But I’m not sure you are right about this. You seem to be overruled by Sardonicus, Pat, Lasha and myself who all feel that this is NOT the original Ellie K. However, as I explained, there is a small element of doubt about this and your “hunch” could be correct! We’ll never know. 🙂

    2. I must concur with Gilby.
      This is Ellie and my gut feeling is that she is real.
      Not saying real this or that, just real.

      And she has affection bordering on affliction for Lasha which gives rise to quite refined, feminine venom that I find irresistible, because I find refined femmes irresistible, particularly of the venomous variety.
      As does Gilby, of that I have no doubt.
      We men should back off from this cage fight and let them duke it out without interference.

      Frankly, Pat got what he asked for because he never missed a chance to get his digs at Ellie.
      If he lets go of her, I am sure she will do likewise because her sole quarry is Lasha, who is more than capable of dealing with this.

      So, Toby, Sard, everybody keep out unless the topic is of common interest.
      Whether Ellie is a Redshield or a pauper is irrelevant, what counts is the wealth between the ears and in that department she’s got the best of Jews eating dust.

      1. “Frankly, Pat got what he asked for because he never missed a chance to get his digs at Ellie.”

        AND… lobro…. I didn’t even care about being called a Parkinson diseased cabbage. HA!!

        The sentences were way to short, though. An imposter’s mistake.

        Everyone knows… It takes 400 to 500 adjectives and adverbs and dozens of commas and just 2 periods, all placed in the correct position, hooked in series with nouns and pronouns, flowing, to make a point… for it to be the genuine ‘EK entity.’

        The funny part is that all I did was agree to another’s comment…and state… “VERY LIKELY.” 🙂

      2. lobro –

        Here IS the REAL DEAL….. Great sentences… And the whole thread is a HOOT!!

        (no left cheek – right cheek stuff either)

        Ellie Katsnelson
        July 18, 2014 at 9:56 am

        Good evening,

        … Me, Lasha? Let me be the first to contentedly acquiesce, since I cannot possibly evade it, that Lasha, who by the very virtue of appearing here mesmerises her followers, is certainly not me, and I most certainly am not her. I understand that those little ones who have been jolted from their common every day Judaic inanities and fulminate at my comment may unthinkingly and viciously attack Lasha and think her the author of the devastating piece, but, let me remind you that fairness itself demands that what was written by one is most unjust to be claimed by another. And this, not because Lasha lacks the literary qualification to do so, but, I believe she herself would not wish to be bestowed with such foul distinctions as I have been. Remember: I have been called a slut and a whore, a demon and a viper – and God knows what else not? Why would Lasha want such ugly appellations appended to her gorgeous name? No, friends: your thoughts of vengeance ought justly to be aimed at me and me only; and if you wish to intoxicate your rage still further and impute all your colourless charges and invectives to me, let me see how you do it intelligently, that is, in writing, but to me, Ellka, and not to Lasha.

      3. @ Lobro

        You are the best and have my undying admiration for this post! No kidding. The reasons you give for believing that the incorrigible Ellie is behind these two “venomous” posts do you credit as a potential psychoanalyst who would make dear old Gustave Jung go green with envy! 🙂

        But honestly Lobro you are totally up the creek without a paddle! (Hey, no offense meant!) In this I must back my “arch-enemy” Pat (whom I have actually gotten to like and respect quite a lot) when he gives his correct analysis of Ellie K’s style. There is no way that Ellie could have written those two posts. The style is totally different. As Pat points out, there is one sentence there that only has FOUR words in it. That is something quite beyond Ellie’s capacity to produce. I doubt if she ever wrote a sentence with less than 400 words in it!

        As for the *venom*, wow! The original Ellie was a pussycat in comparison. If I may speculate, I think I know exactly who wrote these two posts . . . but I dare not mention the person’s name in case I am wrong. The poster I am thinking of is a woman and uses a 2-word user name, Initials: MB.

        Pat will know who I am thinking of. If he has guessed correctly, I would ask him to be discreet and not blab the name. This lady not only has the literary style but also the necessary venom.

      4. Sard –

        Your ‘arch-(backed) 😉 enemy’ agrees.

        And the initials are very familiar.

      5. Ok, so 2 Ellies at the latest count, both besotted with Lasha and hissing with unrequited Gothic passion, like Ann Rice’s Parisian vampire pack.

        What’s not to like?

      6. Just 2???

        There is::
        Ellie, EK, Ellka, Ellie Katsnelson, 5/11 and a possible MB.

        That’s way more than just 2…. 😉

      7. Maybe a slew of them but only one added Parkinson’s to the list of your crimes.

        So be nice to the rest of them, they are a bunch of sweethearts.

        Freddie Roach and Muhammad Ali share your condition and only Ali did time.
        He was wrongfully accused because the real perp was Cassius Clay.

      8. My common soul, good Lobro, and you, Gilby,*

        Having suffered for two awful days in polite silence, though not without refining in my mind my characteristic riposte, I can no longer say little, much less still remain silent, at the manifest falsity, and the glaring malevolence, that some one or other should employ, with or without the ratification of HER conscience, her mind in passing herself off as me, a fact so comical and absurd, as to make the very dead laugh, as anyone who is in the least acquainted with the unexampled beauty of my prose, the explosive nature of my tongue, and the cutting ejaculations which hourly it makes against the evil Jews, could be in no doubt, nor in suspense, nor in fear, that the said poor specimen could not possibly be me, neither in body, nor in mind, nor certainly in purse, unless, that is, the richness of the said poor person’s imagination, which is a common illness of those who haven’t much but desire to have more, would so overwhelm their reason, as well as their manners, as to so pitifully promote themselves way above what their common rank permits, that they see no prohibition, nor shame, nor guilt, nor evil, in using the most callous methods, upon the pretext of wishing to communicate something when in fact they can not, and gratify in my name that which their own paltry little moniker could not, since it is a fact well known though seldom observed, that if one could but discard one’s own inferiority and garb oneself with the superiority of another, the filthiest rag becomes a silk, the dumbest tongue becomes a preacher, and the shiniest pates become a handsome wig, a fact which, as I said, ought to be deliberated calmly and most seriously, since some prohibitions, if languidly accepted, and commonly applauded, soon become truths, and truth is that for all the trillions of souls which this Judaically wounded world of ours ever has or will support, never has there been another Ellie K., but me, in whose elegant name, and at whose not a little cost, cruel inroads are being made to offend and belittle those who, when even at their worst, I find at most bemusing. As a matter of fact, I have never, ever hated the gentleman who posts here by the name of Pat; I only wanted to reprimand him for making me a Hollywood nothing. You know Hollywood, Lobro? Circus monkeys – the whole lot of them!

        Now, my friends and acquaintances often object and oftener still reproach me for, ”…mixing with the common dregs…” as they unfairly are wont to say, ”… as it makes you look cheap…” but I quickly remind them that even in the darkest pits of humanity a good soul can always be found, whereas in the best of Jewish homes such felicities can only be wished for. There might formerly have been good Jews in the world, who knows?, only the last four-and-a-half-thousand years have been rather infertile in good crop, and so consequently if I say that all Jews are evil, I am not insensible to the fact that such a claim, whether it be made in pursuit of my own pathological satisfaction or not, is bound to sound unrefined and thus offensive to some, only upon reflection, when one sees Palestinian children being shot for sport, and afterwards sees such dark acts excused by Jews as self-defence, it would be ridiculous, if not downright criminal, not to want to burn the whole of Israel and Jewry at once, for wrong murder excused soon becomes a habit, and a murderous habit cloaked under the pretence of defence soon degenerates into a bloodbath, and if you carefully observe the events of the past 67 years in Israel, would you not agree with me that what we have been witnessing in Palestine is nothing short of a bloodbath? Come, now, Lobro, be a man and say YES! For, much as you may feel for the Palestinians, you simply cannot feel for them more than me, as I have seen and smelt and touched their blood, I have literally collected their body pieces, and to this day help many a family with not immodest sums, if a little immodesty is permitted.

        Five things move me, Lobro, Gilby, five things only:
        1. Money
        2. Freedom, especially, most especially, freedom for the Palestinians
        3. Truth
        4. Writing, Reading, Art
        5. And the fifth one, the most elusive of all which I said ”moves” me but is yet to, is human company, something which, as I said, I am yet to find, but one day I will, I know.

        Therefore, when in the future someone or other presents themselves like me, know that you are in bad company, and take especial care not to be deceived, sardonically speaking! Speaking of deceit, I have learned in life that women in particular have been overgenerously furnished with the capacity to deceive, and that none fall more for their tricks than men. Therefore, see in the future that you recognise my voice when you hear it, as it doesn’t come by here often, for the passion that once seized me has all but wholly ceased. As for your claim that I am besotted with Ms Darkmoon – tsk, tsk, tsk, Lobro, Lobro, let me tell you something – and I shall murmur this to your delicate ear, so it stays between us two–: that which causes us pleasure is not necessarily loved by us. But you already know this.

        From Australia,
        Ellie K

        *… and you, Gilby,*: you cute, little devil! Long time!

        1. @ Ellie

          Apologies for slight delay in posting this. Your post went for automatic monitoring (beyond our control) and I approved it as soon as I saw it.

          @ Lobro

          Here you see the *real* Ellie, as opposed to the fake one whose style was rightly questioned by both Sardonicus and Pat. Note that only the original Ellie K would be capable of writing a grammatically correct sentence like this — 368 words long and with 51 commas in it!

          Having suffered for two awful days in polite silence, though not without refining in my mind my characteristic riposte, I can no longer say little, much less still remain silent, at the manifest falsity, and the glaring malevolence, that some one or other should employ, with or without the ratification of HER conscience, her mind in passing herself off as me, a fact so comical and absurd, as to make the very dead laugh, as anyone who is in the least acquainted with the unexampled beauty of my prose, the explosive nature of my tongue, and the cutting ejaculations which hourly it makes against the evil Jews, could be in no doubt, nor in suspense, nor in fear, that the said poor specimen could not possibly be me, neither in body, nor in mind, nor certainly in purse, unless, that is, the richness of the said poor person’s imagination, which is a common illness of those who haven’t much but desire to have more, would so overwhelm their reason, as well as their manners, as to so pitifully promote themselves way above what their common rank permits, that they see no prohibition, nor shame, nor guilt, nor evil, in using the most callous methods, upon the pretext of wishing to communicate something when in fact they can not, and gratify in my name that which their own paltry little moniker could not, since it is a fact well known though seldom observed, that if one could but discard one’s own inferiority and garb oneself with the superiority of another, the filthiest rag becomes a silk, the dumbest tongue becomes a preacher, and the shiniest pates become a handsome wig, a fact which, as I said, ought to be deliberated calmly and most seriously, since some prohibitions, if languidly accepted, and commonly applauded, soon become truths, and truth is that for all the trillions of souls which this Judaically wounded world of ours ever has or will support, never has there been another Ellie K., but me, in whose elegant name, and at whose not a little cost, cruel inroads are being made to offend and belittle those who, when even at their worst, I find at most bemusing.”

      9. Actually 2 added Parkinson’s.
        The ‘real deal’ did it last year in one of the vicious attacks, one of many, calling me a girl and was threatening a physical and financial attack. La, La, La… “Slit your throat..”
        That’s when I made the ‘5/11 entity’ “vomit.”
        I was expecting Mossad-esqe maneuvers in my yard.
        It was hilariously funny. 🙂

        All of that, while using 5 syllable words, put the recent ‘shorty-sentence entity’ to shame.

      10. Toby….

        Whoa, NOW..!!!

        “-368 words long and with 51 commas in it!”
        Possibly…. A world record…!!!

        1. @ Pat

          Yep, it breaks all records and puts the rest of us to shame! Lasha tells me that Ellie has an ancestor who was a well-known German author in the 18th or 19th century who specialized in long, multi-comma sentences. Ellie has apparently decided to pay him homage by copying his style.

          Long sentences with endless commas have been used by quite a few other authors, including Henry James and Proust. Ellie takes first prize for the multi-comma sentence though. No doubt about it.

      11. When even a fake Ellie writes this well, it is a tribute to the real Ellie.
        Those are some vertiginous heights up there.
        Three commas and I am comatose.
        Full stop.

        And it suddenly hit me who might respond to mystery initials of “MB”.
        It is Madame but I promise not to tell anyone, nosiree, it’s liplock city.
        Anyway, she is a damn good writer too.

        We can be thankful to Lasha for attracting such distaff talent that would otherwise be quickly bored of geopolitics at a hard core male site.

      12. Toby –

        Knowing that…
        I am – finally – forced to withdraw all of my claims of EK being a Hollywood writer.

        Ellie K is one of a kind…
        Inimitable… incapable of being imitated or copied.
        Surpasses any attempted plagiarisms.

        Makes this the best comment section on the web.

      13. @ lobro

        And it suddenly hit me who might respond to mystery initials of “MB”.
        It is Madame but I promise not to tell anyone, nosiree, it’s liplock city.
        Anyway, she is a damn good writer too.

        Too bad “Madame” failed to copy Madame (Rothschild).

        Wonder what “Madame” is up to right now? Flitting among the flowers, I guess, and eagerly sought after by the keen lepidopterist. Ooops, mustn’t give too much away! 🙂

  38. Lobro –

    I am very glad to see that you are more ‘with’ me on this perception of Ellie, than against me. She IS a ‘sweetheart’ of sorts – but an attractively ‘venomous’ one, too. (I would prefer to love the devil OUT of her, than to grapple against the devil WITHIN her. She is a formidable adversary, and I do not like our Lasha possibly subjected to her antipathetic ambiguity – even though our Lasha is a formidable force in her own right. 🙂 )

    Were I to be presented the choice of either of them for companionable company, I’d have a difficult decision. I perceive Lasha as more ‘Teflon’ in her evaluation of men, i.e., she is less condoning of our frailties than I perceive our Miss Ellie being (which is why Ellie may have been personally offended, as well). Lasha is not intentionally so, but her life and circumstances have ingrained it in her to be very cautious and stand-offish. I doubt she means harm by it, but it is now in her nature – which is a hard wall to scale. Although Ellie could be more dangerous, she is more pliant and soft and…lovable… (I could do with a little of that, myself. 🙂 )

    1. Ellie –

      Many apologies – and surprise (!). It is somehow peculiar that I was, apparently, writing my message to Lobro just as you were writing your last, above comment. After reading it, though, just now, I am glad to find you STILL as lovely as I perceive! 🙂 🙂

      Now, having rested for the night, I must leave here and go outside to perform various chores, collect some manure on my boots, and allow my ideas of you to pleasantly wander through the diverse channels of my little mind. You are a GEM. 🙂

  39. I will not think of the women, I will not think of the women, … there, I succeeded.
    Next: I will stop lying, I will stop lying, … grrr.

    But I do enjoy Ellie’s rich, creamy prose, I get fat on it, though it may be unhealthy.
    Clinicians of literature say that dry grits of Hemingway are healthier and easier to digest but too much health makes me sick.

  40. Down boys!

    Emulating ‘dancing dogs at the hand of a woman’ is hardly the stuff of poetry.

    Pulp novels, Jungian stutterings and Oedipian slip sliding, sure.
    Oh, and bloody murder too..

    1. Hp –

      Don’t think TOO small of us… Speaking for myself (as I may pertain to Ellie’s five elements of what ‘moves’ her) – while I do not have enough money to impress her – I can, most certainly, provide for her the other things which might enhance warmer regards. 🙂

      1. Gilbert, don’t underestimate yourself!
        Every man has what every woman wants and needs. (the 95%)
        And … there are (at least) six elements.

        All a matter of timing..

      2. Through several wives and 2 daughters I have found that….
        Girls of all ages… around the world…just can’t resist…

        ….having FUN. Their favorite word.

      3. @ Gilbert Huntly

        while I do not have enough money to impress her [Ellie] – I can, most certainly, provide for her the other things which might enhance warmer regards. 🙂


        I am deeply touched by this comment of yours and want to do all I can to further the potential romance between you and Ellie which is now hotting up and clearly reaching boiling point… what with you even offering to write love poems to the same luscious lady!

        As Hp has correctly pointed out, Gilby, you underestimate yourself. I am sure you have a lot to offer Ellie. In contrast to the effeminate, metrosexual fops in France who she is accustomed to and who probably fill her passionate soul with wearisome ennui, you are a full-blooded frontiersman with a swashbuckling charm, a poetic temperament, and good honest American mud on your boots! Heck, you could sweep her up into your manly arms, drape her over your saddle, and gallop off with her into the sunset!

        My honest advice to you is to strike while the iron is hot. Make your move while Ellie she is still here. Ask her for her email address or get Lasha to provide you with her address — subject to Ellie’s kind approval and permission of course,

        If it all comes to nothing, so what? At least you will have tried. As they say, faint heart never won fair lady! 🙂

  41. Prefer to post my comments on the Information Clearing House site. 100% free from the inbreed impostors with minor exceptions. But the linked source article here about this possibility is most likely a fabrication. When it comes to the Zionist Olympic Stoogery games here is the medal story. The English has always been the Gold holders. Benjamin D’ Zionist in the 19th century made sure of it. Don’t forget he was the handler of that Germanic genetic made woman. Check it here: On the other hand France holds the Silver. Recently Mr. Hollande is trying like hell to take it away from London. Think I’m kidding. Read this: Read my comment there is #3. And yes Germany holds the Copper colored one. No doubt the article linked here is full rubbish. Never forget the sick intentions Kaufman and Morgenthau had in their psycho minds for that place.

    1. @ The Khazar Hunter

      Prefer to post my comments on the Information Clearing House site. 100% free from inbreed impostors…”

      Thanks for honoring us with your august presence, Khazar Hunter. I guess one of the main differences between the two sites is that your above condescending comment is freely published here without being deleted as arrogant and rude. Whereas THIS comment (very similar) would have been deleted at once (!) if you had posted it on the Information Clearing House site:

      “Prefer to post my comments on the Darkmoon site. 100% free from inbreed impostors…”

      BTW, how many Khazars have you hunted down recently?

  42. If you knew just how BIG the scandal is, you would never fall to the lie that anybody in the system can use the system to defeat the system. You know its like a guy who at young age becomes outraged by a criminal syndicate, and swears that he will become a crime buster with a very big kahuna. Well the guy manages to trace the criminals all the way to the top. Only to find that papa is the Capi di tuti capi.

    Either that, or Its for entertainment and distraction purpose.

  43. does that pre-empt anybody else that will truly do it and set a president that they are not guilty psyop

  44. I on 19-6-2006 defeated the Commonwealth of Australia comprehensively, after a 5 year epic legal battle on FAILING TO VOTE in both cases, un challenged by any of the Attorney-Generals. These cases included my constitutionally based submissions that John Howard and others were not validly elected in the 2001 and 2004 federal elections. That John Howard acted unconstitutionally to authorize the armed invasion into Iraq, as there was no constitutional powers for him to do so., etc. In my view, using this against John Howard (then claiming to be prime minister) and his fellow purported Ministers then George Bush, Tony Blair and others could also be pursued for having participated in that regard to invade Iraq. And let not ignore the unelected judges at the time who on 18 and again on 19 February 2003 refused to accept my application for Mandamus for filing and likewise again so on 18 March and 19 March 2003 against John Howard as not to unconstitutionally invade Iraq. In my view the judges committed treason by their conduct. Whereas I all along maintained in the litigation (and again unchallenged) that John Howard nor other persons claiming to be Members of Parliament of the 2001 federal election were not validly elected then neither were they Ministers at the time of the armed invasion into Iraq and as such could be prosecuted as ordinary civilians. I have been the only person ever to defeat the Commonwealth of Australia on compulsory voting and this ought to underline that as a CONSTITUTIONALIST I knew my constitutional rights! As I submitted that only the Governor-General acting for the Crown has the constitutional powers to declare war or peace! And as the court upheld both appeals without any reservation then all issues raised in the proceedings, having been unchallenged thereby are deemed to have been succeeded!

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