Russia is being pushed to the limit by the US and its Nato lackeys

By The Saker

This is a key article which needs to be read very carefully. Here the Saker excels himself. Unfortunately, the article is pretty somber and depressing to read. It points out that, if push came to shove, Russia would have no chance in winning a major war against the US and its bellicose Nato allies. Here is the Evil Empire now doing everything in its power to provoke Russia into lashing out in retaliation against its provocations, in effect initiating World War Three. Russia, in short, is being pushed to the limit. It is having its nose tweaked by the US and its Nato lackeys. The question is: What can Putin do about this? His options, it seems, are very limited.  (LD) 



“If someone thinks they can commit a heinous war crime, kill our people and get away with it, suffering nothing but a ban on tomato imports, or a few restrictions in construction or other industries, they’re delusional. We’ll remind them of what they did, more than once. They’ll regret it. We know what to do.”

On November 24th the Turkish Air force did something absolutely unprecedented in recent history: it deliberately shot down another country’s military aircraft, even though it was absolutely obvious that this aircraft presented no threat whatsoever to Turkey or the Turkish people.

The Russian Internet is full of more or less official leaks about how this was done. According to these versions, the Turks maintained 12 F-16 on patrol along the border ready to attack, they were guided by AWACS aircraft and “covered” by USAF F-15s in case of an immediate Russian counter-attack. Maybe. Maybe not. But this hardly matters because what is absolutely undeniable is that the USA and NATO immediately took “ownership” of this attack by giving their full support to Turkey.

NATO went as far as to declare that it would send aircraft and ships to protect Turkey as it it had been Russia who had attacked Turkey. As for the USA, not only did it fully back Turkey, it now also categorically denies that there is any evidence that Turkey is purchasing Daesh oil. Finally, as was to be expected, the USA is now sending The Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group into the eastern Mediterranean, officially to strike Daesh but, in reality, to back Turkey and threaten Russia. Even the Germans are now sending their own aircraft, but with the specific orders not to share any info with the Russians.

So what is really going on here?

Simple: the Empire correctly identified the weakness of the Russian force in Syria, and it decided to use Turkey to provide itself an element of plausible deniability. This attack is probably only the first step of a much larger campaign to “push back” Russia from the Turkish border.

The next step, apparently, includes the dispatching of western forces into Syria, initially only as ‘advisors’, but eventually as special forces and forward air controllers. The US and Turkish Air Forces will play the primary role here, with assorted Germans and UK aircraft providing enough diversity to speak of an “international coalition”. As for the French, stuck between their Russian counterparts and their NATO “allies”, they will remain as irrelevant as ever: Hollande caved in, again (what else?). Eventually, NATO will create a de-facto safe heaven for its “moderate terrorists” in northern Syria and use it as a base to direct an attack on Raqqa. Since any such intervention will be completely illegal, the argument of the need to defend the Turkmen minority will be used, R2P [‘Responsibility to protect’] and so on. The creation of a NATO-protected safe heaven for “moderate terrorists” could provide the first step from breaking up Syria into several smaller statelets.

If that is really the plan, then the shooting down of the SU-24 sends a powerful message to Russia: we are ready to risk a war to push you back – are you ready to go to war? The painful answer will be that no, Russia is not prepared to wage a war against the entire Empire over Syria, simply because she does not have the capabilities to do so.


As I have already mentioned many times now, Syria is beyond the Russian power projection capability (roughly 1000km), especially if that power projection has to be executed through hostile territory (which Turkey most definitely is). So far, the Russians have succeeded, brilliantly, to organize and support their small force in Syria, but that in no way indicates a Russian capability to support a major air operation over Syria or, even less so, a ground operation.

The fact is that the Russian intervention in Syria was always a risky and difficult one, and it did not take the Empire much time to capitalize on this. Though I get a lot of flak from flag-wavers and “hurray patriots” for saying this, but the fact is that Russia cannot ‘protect’ Syria from the US, NATO or even CENTCOM. At least not in purely military terms. This does not mean that Russia does not have retaliatory options. Russia has already engaged in the following:

Economic sanctions: Russia has declared a number of sanctions against Turkey, including the freezing of the Turkish Stream project. Furthermore, Russian tourism in Turkey – a huge source of revenue – is most likely to dwindle down to a tiny what it used to be: Russians will not be banned from going to Turkey, but no tours or packages will be offered by Russian travel agencies. Some Turkish goods will be banned in Russia, and Turks will not be invited to bid for various types of contracts. All in all, these sanctions will hurt Turkey, but not in a major way.

Political sanctions: here Russia will use one of her most terrifying weapons: the truth. The Russian military presented a devastating series of photos and videos shot by Russian air and space assets proving that Turkey does, indeed, purchase oil from Daesh. What was especially shocking about this evidence is that it showed the truly immense scale of the smuggling: one photo showed 1’722 oil trucks in in Deir Ez-Zor region while another one showed 8’500 oil tankers are used by Daesh to transport up 200’000 barrels of oil. What these figures mean is that not only is this smuggling organized at the level of the Turkish state, but it is also absolutely obvious that the USA knows everything about it.

Predictably, the western media made no mention of the actual evidence, it only spoke of “images the Russians claim to show”, but the damage is still done, especially in the long term. Now everybody with a modicum of intelligence knows that Erdogan is a lying crook. More importantly, it has now become undeniable that Turkey is not only an ally, but a patron and sponsor of Daesh. Finally, in the light of this evidence, it also becomes rather obvious why Turkey decided to shoot down the Russian SU-24: because the Russians were bombing the Daesh to Turkey smuggling routes.

The final blow to the prestige and credibility of Erdogan and Turkey came from Vladimir Putin himself who, in his annual address to the Parliament said:

“We know who are stuffing pockets in Turkey and letting terrorists prosper from the sale of oil they stole in Syria. The terrorists are using these receipts to recruit mercenaries, buy weapons and plan inhuman terrorist attacks against Russian citizens and against people in France, Lebanon, Mali and other states. We remember that the militants who operated in the North Caucasus in the 1990s and 2000s found refuge and received moral and material assistance in Turkey. We still find them there.

Meanwhile, the Turkish people are kind, hardworking and talented. We have many good and reliable friends in Turkey. Allow me to emphasize that they should know that we do not equate them with the certain part of the current ruling establishment that is directly responsible for the deaths of our servicemen in Syria.

We will never forget their collusion with terrorists. We have always deemed betrayal the worst and most shameful thing to do, and that will never change. I would like them to remember this – those in Turkey who shot our pilots in the back, those hypocrites who tried to justify their actions and cover up for terrorists.

I don’t even understand why they did it. Any issues they might have had, any problems, any disagreements we knew nothing about could have been settled in a different way. Plus, we were ready to cooperate with Turkey on all the most sensitive issues it had; we were willing to go further, where its allies refused to go. Allah only knows, I suppose, why they did it. And probably, Allah has decided to punish the ruling clique in Turkey by taking their mind and reason.

But, if they expected a nervous or hysterical reaction from us, if they wanted to see us become a danger to ourselves as much as to the world, they won’t get it. They won’t get any response meant for show or even for immediate political gain. They won’t get it.

Our actions will always be guided primarily by responsibility – to ourselves, to our country, to our people. We are not going to rattle the sabre. But, if someone thinks they can commit a heinous war crime, kill our people and get away with it, suffering nothing but a ban on tomato imports, or a few restrictions in construction or other industries, they’re delusional. We’ll remind them of what they did, more than once. They’ll regret it. We know what to do.”

Of course, in a society thoroughly habituated to lying, dishonesty and hypocrisy, these are “only” words, and they shall be ignored. But in the Middle-East and the rest of the world, these are powerful words which the Turks will have a very hard time “washing off” from their reputation.

Military measures: these are limited, of course, but not irrelevant. First, Russia has now admitted that S-400 are now in Syria (I suspect they were there all along). Second, Russia has began building a 2nd air base, this time in Shaayrat, in central Syria. If this base is indeed built, then bringing in a few Russian AWACS and/or MiG-31s would make sense. Third, Russia will now used more modern SU-34 equipped with advanced air-to-air missiles in northern Syria and Russian strike aircraft will now be escorted by dedicated SU-30SM fighters. This combination of measures will make it much harder for the Turks to repeat such an attack, but I personally doubt that they have any such intentions, at least not in the immediate future.


In order to fully understand what is happening now we need to look at the bigger picture. The first major consequence of the shooting down of the Russian SU-24 is that NATO has now become an impunity alliance. Now that the precedent has been set by Turkey’s act of war on Russia, because that is what this shooting down undeniably was, any NATO member can now do the same thing while feeling protected by the alliance. If tomorrow, say, the Latvians decide to strafe a Russian Navy ship in the Baltic Sea or if the Poles shoot down a Russian aircraft over Kaliningrad, they will immediately get the ‘protection’ of NATO just like Turkey now did: the USA will fully endorse the Latvian/Polish version of the events, the Secretary General of NATO will offer to dispatch more forces to Latvia/Poland to “protect” these countries from any “threat” from “the east” and the world’s corporate media will turn a blind eye to any evidence of Latvian/Polish aggression.

This is an extremely dangerous development as it gives a strong incentive to any small country to deal with its inferiority complex by showing its “courage” and “determination” to challenge Russia even if, of course, this is done by hiding behind NATO’s back.

NATO is also deliberately escalating its war on Russia by admitting Montenegro into the Alliance and by re-starting talks about admitting Georgia. In a purely military sense, the incorporation of Montenegro into NATO makes no difference whatsoever, but in political terms this is yet another way for the West to thumb its nose at Russia and say “see, we will even incorporate your historical allies into our Empire and there is nothing you can do about it”. As for Georgia, the main purpose behind the discussion of its incorporation into NATO is to vindicate the “Saakashvili line”, i.e. to reward aggression towards Russia. Here again, there is nothing Russia can do.

We thus are facing an extremely dangerous situation:

  • The Russian forces in Syria are comparatively weak and isolated
  • Turkey can, and will, continue its provocations under the cover of NATO
  • The West is now preparing an (illegal) intervention inside Syria
  • The western intervention will be made against Syria and Russia
  • NATO politicians now have an easy way to score “patriotic” points by provoking Russia

If we strip all the NATO verbiage about “defending our members” what is happening now is that the Empire has now apparently decided that going down the road to war is safe because Russia will not dare to “start” a war. In other words, this is a game of chicken in which one side dares the other to do something about it. This is exactly what Putin was referring to when he said:

“If they expected a nervous or hysterical reaction from us, if they wanted to see us become a danger to ourselves as much as to the world, they won’t get it. They won’t get any response meant for show or even for immediate political gain. They won’t get it. Our actions will always be guided primarily by responsibility – to ourselves, to our country, to our people.”

What the imperial deep state is missing is the fact that Russia might not have a choice but to confront the Empire.

Yes, the Russians do not want war, but the problem here is that, considering the absolutely reckless arrogance and imperial hubris of the western elites, every Russian effort to avoid war is interpreted by the western deep state as a sign of weakness. In other words, by acting responsibly the Russians are now providing an incentive for the West to act even more irresponsibly.

This is a very, very, dangerous dynamic which the Kremlin will have to deal with. Putin, apparently, does have something in mind, at least this is how I understand his warning:  “But, if someone thinks they can commit a heinous war crime, kill our people and get away with it, suffering nothing but a ban on tomato imports, or a few restrictions in construction or other industries, they’re delusional. We’ll remind them of what they did, more than once. They’ll regret it. We know what to do.”

I have no idea as to what he might be referring to, but I am confident that this is not some empty bluster: this was not a threat to Russia’s enemies, but a promise to the Russian people. I sure hope that there is a plan because right now we are on a collision course leading to war.

In conclusion, here is a short quote by Putin western leaders might want to ponder.

15-second video:


144 thoughts to “Russia is being pushed to the limit by the US and its Nato lackeys”

  1. I don’t think we’ll have to worry much. Putin is definitely NOT insane and he ‘ll not risk a Third World War merely to “save face” after an humiliation. If that would embolden other members of NATO to more humiliating acts against Russia, we’ll have to keep in mind that such acts mean militarily very little. A loss of a few jet fighters or pilots is not a military defeat. Putin will have to find creative ways to counter such humiliations in a non-military way. I’m confident he’ll find them. It takes two insane parties to start a world war. One party is NOT insane anyway.

    1. All it might take is one insane party and an excuse, a false flag – “you attacked first” that isn’t provable. If provocation fails, isn’t that the likely scenario? The one insane party is insanely bent on world domination and all that promises. If China were to join forces with Russia, that might stall things, but more than stalling will be needed to deal with this insane party’s ambition.

      1. They said that about Iran too. A big false flag attack agains the US (even nuclear) blamed on Iran would start the long desired war with Iran, but that didn’t happen. Instead we got a very reasonable agreement with Iran, whether the Jews liked it or not. There may be some Jews in the US government who are literally hell-bent on starting WW III but the US government, no matter how much infiltrated by Jews, still is not insane. If Trump wins the election we’ll get a saner relationship with Russia, if Hillary wins, not so much.

    2. “Putin said this week he doesn’t see any prospect for reviving relations with Turkey, and that Ataturk would be rolling in his grave over Islamization in modern Turkey. He was angry that Ankara called Brussels, not Moscow, when it downed a Russian jet.” Source Guardian

      What’s Putin’s point? Ataturk was another Donmeh crypto jew.

  2. What the west is not expecting would be uprisings within society. There was a march in London by thousands opposing Cameron’s pursuit of air strikes within Syria (now going ahead). I think people are waking up to the fact that world war is very certainly a possibility. I think they are also beginning to realise that the msm is BS! In America, TV companies are no longer publishing viewing figures because they’re losing alot to the internet and alternative media. Print media sales are also falling.

    With the never ending pursuit to ban weapons in the USA and thus destroy the 2nd amendment within the USA, which would, as is planned lead to the end of the 1st amendment, the growth of militia will continue along with gun sales. The national guard would not be able to compete against a heavily armed militia which would mean armed forces units that would be used against Russia having to stay home. There is also the high risk of armed forces personnel mutiny, as they would not want to kill fellow Americans. Europe is also waking up and getting angry to the current influx of migrants.

    Then there’s the possibility of a Russian, China and Iran coalition. It is clear that the west is moving into Syria to attack Syrian forces. The US has already attacked Syrians in airstrikes.

    It is disgusting to see what’s happening. The west’s continuing demolition of yet another sovereign state in the middle east, which will lead to more refugees and misery for millions, is hidden to the west by its traitorous msm.

    And now we have another attack this time in London where a masked man slashed out at people with a machete. Shouting “Free Syria”. Is he a controlled automaton of MI5? Or is he an angry Muslim who sees what’s going on? My take is, very possibly another psy-op as why isn’t he attacking the government? What have the people done? Either way, what this will do is create more fear for Muslims by the populous. What’s also interesting is scenario and situation. This is now headline news. I on the other hand, in 2005 was attacked by Muslim youths in east London. I was stabbed 7 times, bottled, bricked, hit with metal and wooden poled, punched and kicked, needing numerous stitches. I was told by doctors I was lucky to be alive. Not only did what happen to me NOT make the papers (not even the local ones) due to what was a media blackout against Muslim attacks in London, but there were no arrests, even though the police knew whom they were and had DNA evidence, but I was told that this case was going nowhere because they did not want to cause problems with Muslims in London. This was an attempted murder that got whitewashed. Any arrests would be viewed as hostility to Muslims. And this is why I have no faith in the police and justice system within the UK. Interesting how, with this attack by a Muslim (from what looks like Sudan/Somalia), the media uses propaganda to achieve its agenda.

    Either way, my views on Putin are beginning to veer over to Putin being a credible anti NWO leader. We are seeing the Hitler scenario all over again. It’s disturbing, distressing to watch. It’s this complete sense of helplessness that I’m feeling in seeing just what the plan is, but being able to do nothing to change it, due to the fact that the system that controls the land, is the system behind it all.

    1. “We are seeing the Hitler scenario all over again.”

      Any one with half a brain is saying this for a long time. And yet there are some who persist in refusing to see what is as clear as daylight. But I suppose that is far too uncomplicated for them. It always just hás to be something else behind the curtain, oohooh, spooky, dark and mysterious. They probably advocate Charles Martel was a double agent as well :-).

      BTW, I like the article. Although he has no other option than to do this Putin has known this all along before he decided to send in militairy assistance to Syria. Whether Russia wants it or not, just like Germany it just has to be contained and if possible destroyed and brought back under control. So that means war. Only this time the opposition is more powerful I think. Should it come to a real war then I think China joins in because it too has no other choice. And in case Russia and partners (which really is the last stand) should lose I hope they go for the Samson option and obliterate Israel, London and Washington to hell. I mean I’d rather die standing up than live in a global gulag, seriously.

      1. “And in case Russia and partners (which really is the last stand) should lose I hope they go for the Samson option and obliterate Israel, London and Washington to hell. I mean I’d rather die standing up than live in a global gulag, seriously.”

        I think many people are beginning to smell a rat. I, for certain will never submit to a global gulag. The minute I see anything of the like happening then I’d arm myself and……no need to say the rest.
        How many people would submit? I don’t know, but I sure as hell know that many would fight to their last breath.

        What really needs to be done is an increase in the alternative media. I think people need to openly go out on the street and start giving out pamphlets to people to let them know what’s really going on. Let them know their msm is lying to them. Guaranteed that for everyone whom you give a leaflet to is a potential rabbit hole traveler. I’ve had a few ideas of putting together fanzines and putting articles from internet blogs on to spell out the pciture, as well as links to websites to read and videos to watch, all on the internet.

        I think that there is alot that can still be done to avert WW3. There is nothing more deadly to the evil that controls than its lies to be exposed.

    2. Any one with half a brain is saying this for a long time. And yet there are some who persist in refusing to see what is as clear as daylight.

      That makes my day because for the first time ever, there is an outside, impartial confirmation that I got 1/2 brain.
      I just need to locate the other half.

      I think that in a game theoretic scenario, it will at some point be revealed that the doomsday avalanche cannot be prevented, and then Russia must strike the hardest blow possible, certainly the first one against the snakes nest.

      Let’s temporarily agree to ignore the other cheek injunction.

      1. @ Wiggins. Why did Putin want the Russian military to train in Colorado? (2012)

        “Twenty-two Russian army paratroopers are in Colorado for two weeks of training with the 10th Special Forces Group at Fort Carson, a post outside Colorado Springs.

        The two nations’ militaries have been conducting joint exercises for years, but this is believed to be the first time Russian soldiers have trained on U.S soil ”

        “It’s the first step toward joint exercises in more complicated anti-terrorism operations such as helicopter drops, he said.”

        “The training is the result of a U.S.-Russian agreement signed a year ago. The objectives are to create a basic relationship between the two nations’ militaries and to build an understanding about how each other’s military works, including communications, Osterholzer said.”

      2. Wiggins,
        my advice, ignore it 100%, this is such utter, toxic gibberish, it is embarrassing.

        And who comes to Putin piñata party but the usual suspects.

        Moscow Times (well known CIA front, under court order to close shop and GTFO), Henry Makow, who I am certain is a full on Talmudist operative, a “child of Holocaust survivors”, Daryll Bradford Smith a violent criminal with a lengthy record, now living comfortably in the south of France, who attacks Kaminski at every opportunity, along with others in the field.

        So they are saying that Putin is a Jew brought up by a rabbi and a high degree mason and the richest person in the world.
        And that’s just for starters, that he sees himself as Jewish Messiah Antichrist who for this reason wants to start WW3 and destroy life on the planet and only NATO can stop him.

        Good show, here come duh truth brothers.
        I guess I’ll just have to ditch all my previous thinking when faced with such overwhelming evidence.

      3. The “Butcher” loved Putin too. Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon praised friendly ties with Russia and called President Vladimir Putin a “true friend of Israel.”

        Putin adores his rabbi. Rabbi Shalom Dovber Pinchas Lazar (born May 19, 1964), better known as Berel Lazar, is an Orthodox, Chabad-Lubavitch Hasidic rabbi. He is Chief Rabbi of Russia, and chairman of the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia and Federation of Jewish Communities of the CIS. In September 2005 Lazar became a member of the Public Chamber of Russia.

        A native of Milan, Italy, Rabbi Lazar was born in 1964 to parents who were among the first emissaries of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson.

      4. RO –

        “Why did Putin want the Russian military to train in Colorado? (2012)”

        Better instructors. And equipment they will use in Ukraine and Crimea will come from US companies, many of which have been in Russia for decades. GE. John Deere. GM. Caterpillar. Ford. Boeing. IBM. Microsoft. AT&T…. Goldman Sachs. JP Morgan. CITI. And…. hundreds more..

        …. very “Patesqe” of me… 🙂

        The ‘rebbe’ was a gem. Noachide Laws rising. In Russia too…

  3. Everything done publicly in all governments is a ruse…. Has purposes. Justifications.

    I still believe this ‘shoot-down’ was staged – False Flag – so that Russia could deny ‘asylum-seeking refugees’ from anywhere…. especially those coming through and from Turkey.

    It also helps keep Russian debtors home…. helping banks collect debts. It will keep more than 600,000 Russian tourists from going to Turkey next year.

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that the Russian government had reached a decision to suspend the free-visa regime between Russia and Turkey due to security concerns. And recommended Russians to refrain from visiting Turkey.

    Meanwhile… not invading Russia…
    965,000 people registered as asylum-seekers in Germany from Jan thru Nov 2015.


    AND…. Now London’s Jew-Pharisee Bankers can go into Turkey and buy up cheap properties due to economic down-turn…. WIN-WIN-WIN:

    –Turkish economy risks losing ‘$9 billion’ over Russian jet row–

    Istanbul (AFP) – Tensions with Russia could cost Turkey’s economy nine billion dollars in the worst case scenario of “zero relations”, Turkish Deputy Prime Minister said Monday.
    Moscow has imposed a series of economic sanctions against Ankara after Turkish fighter jets shot down a Russian jet on the Syrian border on November 24, sparking the biggest crisis between the two countries since the Cold War.
    The current tension is likely shave 0.3 to 0.4 percent off Turkey’s GDP, Simsek added.
    Russia’s sanctions include a ban on the import of some Turkish foods and a halt on sales of holiday packages, a major blow to Turkish tourism.
    Simsek said that the number of Russian tourists visiting Turkey and construction contracts with Russian companies had also significantly reduced.
    “There are 603,000 fewer (Russian) tourists,” he said.

    1. PAT, I don’t know what exactly you are smoking or drinking or eating, but you really should start your own blog. Since you really, really, really enjoy smearing President Putin and Russia every chance you get, even when the topic at hand doesn’t involve him or Russia (on previous posts), you should call your beloved blog “Putin on the Fart Side of the Darkmoon” or something like that.

      ///I still believe this ‘shoot-down’ was staged – False Flag – so that Russia could deny ‘asylum-seeking refugees’ from anywhere…. especially those coming through and from Turkey.///

      [1] So, President Putin and the Sultan of Swing staged this “False Flag” operation in which 2 brave Russian soldiers were murdered by a bunch of f/lying Turks and their terrorists on the ground . . . so that Russia could deny “asylum-seeking refugees” from entering Russia?!? Do you know anything about geography? Do you know what lies between Turkey and Russia? Take a good look at a geographic map of this area, especially one that has the names of geographic features and countries properly labelled.

      That ABC News article (which you cite to prove that almost 1 million asylum-seeking refugees will no longer invade Russia because of this “False Flag” operation) talks about the asylum-seeking refugees ALREADY in Germany from January through November of 2015. This “False Flag” operation took place on November 24, 2105! Are those asylum-seeking refugees ALREADY living in Germany saying to themselves: “Gee, now that this Turkish-Russian ‘False Flag’ operation has occurred, maybe we better not invade Russia!”?

      Then you really hit a home run with your following statement. I mean way out of the park!

      ///It also helps keep Russian debtors home…. helping banks collect debts. It will keep more than 600,000 Russian tourists from going to Turkey next year.///

      [2] So, Russian banksters (I suppose you mean Jews) could now collect outstanding debts on 600,000 Russian tourists who would otherwise be vacationing in Turkey and not paying their debts to their Jewish masters during their 2-week vacations?!? Those Jewish banksters in Russia must be really smart not to realize that there are 50 other weeks left in a year to extract their pound of flesh or maybe those Russian tourists are really rich that after their Turkish vacation they would have no more rubles left to pay their shylocks!

      Where did you manage to go to school? The School of Hard Rocks?

      Ockham’s Razor!

      BTW, I just cannot wait until the Rothschilds set up their Central Bank in Damascus . . . because that is why Russia is in Syria! [/sarc]

      1. DAVE –

        “BTW, I just cannot wait until the Rothschilds set up their Central Bank in Damascus . . .”

        You will have to wait until Putin and the other 12 countries complete the ‘demolition’ of old stuff…. and start rebuilding it for putting in new stuff for SberBank/CITI-Group with GE, Cisco, Halliburton, AT&T, IBM, Microsoft…. etc..

        ….. Putin said so:

        Putin wants.. “contracts for investment projects..”

        Russia Plans to Rebuild Syria From Ashes

        The German press reports on Russia’s long-term plans to help rebuild Syria after the end of the war there, including renewed contracts for investment projects and a roadmap for a political resolution.
        Russia has a long-term plan to rebuild Syria after the terrorists there are defeated, which requires the involvement of other regional powers to ensure that the threat of terrorism is extinguished, Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichten [DWN] reported on Saturday.

        “Russian President Vladimir Putin is pursuing a long-term strategy in the Middle East, according to which Syria’s traditional allies play an important role,” wrote DWN.

        There will be a new improved Stock Market in Damascus also.. 🙂

  4. “What have the people done?”

    Yet again, I have to draw attention to ballot box activity.

    The so called innocent people keep voting for mentally ill psychotic warmongers.

    WMD… where are they?

    By 2004, this dirty war lie was publicly known as a lie. Wall to wall Iraqi dead people. Yet the ‘innocent’ voters re-elected the LYING wamonger in chief, and his pro-sand war Tory chums.

    En masse, they endose huge war lies and race profiled violence in the ballot box… 2005, 2010, and 2015. The brown corpses keep piling up, off those votes. This is a fact. The UK is now , today, already bombing Assad’s army… here and here.

    To pretend that voting for known lying warmongers three times in a row, isn’t beng complicit, is delusional in the extreme.

    If you people can’t face this, then you forfeit the right to complain about other peoples’ lack of sanity.

    Get real, stop trumping awkward facts with your MSM controlled emotions.

    And if you people refuse to be unflinchingly honest, get used to being handcart passengers.

    Because, you can’t have it both ways, because it’s Light or Darkness, not pick and mix.

  5. Putin is just another double agent, same as Hitler was. Same as his namesake RasPutin. But people as usual are desperate for a hero and a saviour. It’s sad.

    Besides, the current Putin might be a body double. Compare the old one with the new one.

    The real Putin spoke German fluently as can be seen in the picture to the left. At a press conference in the Kremlin on May 10, 2015, Queen Angela and “Putin” had to use an interpreter.

    And this video is quite conclusive

    Hitler has at least five body doubles too.

    1. Doubles top officials – fiction or reality that hard to believe?

      And if, on behalf of the Presidents broadcast like them twins – who stands behind them and really rules the world?

      Three Putins at 19:30:

      Россию уничтожают двойники?(trans:Russia destroy twins?)


      Lyudmila Putin:

      “My husband is dead long time ago..!!”

      The German newspaper Die Welt  has published a sensational interview with the former First Lady of Russia Lyudmila Putin.

      My husband, unfortunately, have long been dead. I have admitted it publicly because I could not longer see what is happening on his behalf.  

      It’s terrible people. They did not stop at nothing. I am afraid that now they will kill me and daughters as well as they killed him.

      Our family was not exactly ideal. When I got married, I was in love with an intelligence officer. But the reality was quite different.

      Putin was vile, cruel man, a tyrant. He never considered me and simply did not notice my existence. I needed him only for reference and the composition of the family as a mother for his children.
      I find it hard to talk about it, but Putin beat me, humiliated, mocked me. 
      Life with him was torture.

      I tried to fight and many times tried to to file for divorce.  But for this man was not anything sacred. To silence me, he handed me over to a psychiatric clinic. I went through all the circles of hell … narcotics, psychotropic substances, bullying. For a long time I was locked up in prison for a long time, and I have not seen sunlight, and I did not see the people. I still remember it with a shudder.  From being a young and confident woman I became a shadow, and my will was broken, I agreed to all conditions, only to come out from this place.

      What has happened and began after his death defies any descriptions.

      He had an extremely difficult period. Of course, he did not tell me anything, and he became even more withdrawn.

      A month before the death, in the night, he took our daughters somewhere without any warning of me, and I did not even know where he brought them.

      And then he was gone completely.

      At night, some people came to our home – some of them I knew some of them I had seen for the first time. 
      They broke everything upside down, reviewed all the papers, all the walls in the house rattled.
      They told me only one thing: “If you want to live – be silent.”  They briefly replied to all of my questions about my husband  that he would soon come, that he is at an important retreat, and because of the interests of national security, this is not worth for me to discuss it with anyone .  A few days later, came his first … understudy.

      Later I learned that the murder of Vladimir was prepared ahead of time.  It eliminated when the first twin was almost ready to take his place.
      Outwardly, he certainly was very similar to Putin – I was shocked.  But it was a completely different person.

      They somehow managed to track down the girls. They issued an ultimatum for me – either I play the role of a loyal wife, or I and my daughters would not longer live. I had no choice. I first tried to avoid public events. Corrosive media attention, intrigue and gossip, all this, sicken me. However, pretending being a wife of another man was even worse for me.

      In order for me not to say something wrong, they prepared for me the double.  They scared that I said something wrong, as planned scenario, wipe out embarrassments.  If they had time to bring my siblings to more or less successful similarities, I would be murdered long time ago.

      Miraculously, we managed to escape. For obvious reasons, I can not call the people who helped us to stop this terrible dramatization and escape.  

      “The Divorce” was my deliverance. Now I live abroad, and I’m fine.   However, I’m scared to see what is happening with Russia.

      People come to your senses!   You live like beggars, barely making ends meet because you are mercilessly robed and deceived.  And now there is a question about the survival of indigenous peoples in Russia!  If you do not stop a coward and ignore what is happening in the country – you do not live!  


      SUPER interview with Svetlana Peunova.
      In this part of Svetlana answers the question why Putin has double.

      See pics of several Putins at 1:10:

      Prove to me that it is Putin!
      Докажите мне, что это Путин!

      1. Due to the enormous stress of his function, Putin’s face became looking old. He has had a face lift and his cheeks filled with botox. For some interesting facts and pictures, go to : Carolyn Yeager : Interesting Facts about Vladimir Putin.
        Don’t engage in silly conspiracy theories.


        It’s not just the shape of his face. The original Putin had a very distinctive mole on the the left side under his nose. It’s gone with the new Putin. On top of that, if you study the mannerism and the whole body language the distinction between them is very obvious.

        And please, do not tell us what to believe in. We simply posted the facts it’s up to the readers to decide. You’re free to believe in the scapegoats (the Jews) and the saviors (Hitler, Putin, etc), that’s fine, it reflects the level of your maturity but do not pretend to be the ultimate authority.

      3. @ Krum

        “It’s not just the shape of his face. The original Putin had a very distinctive mole on the the left side under his nose. It’s gone with the new Putin.”

        I’ve had a couple of moles removed from my own body. A minor operation taking 5 minutes. Cauterization. I am still the same person!

        When my husband sees me, he doesn’t accuse me of being his wife’s double. He knows it’s still me! 🙂

      4. @Krum

        If you are prepared to have a facelift and have your cheeks filled up with botox, then to have a mole removed from under your nose is a small thing, as Svetlana already indicated.

        You have also to look at the shape of the inside of the ears, they are identic. Everybody has his own unique form of the inside part of the ear. That part of the body is very difficult to change by an operation.

        I can’t say anything about the body language, but it would be possible to analyze electronically Putin’s recorded voice on videos from different periods and then compare them.

        If you look at pictures of Putin “before” and “after” you understand why Putin wanted to change his appearance. In the old pictures he looks worried and exhausted.

        If the real Putin would have been removed, that would have been done by his adversaries, with the aim of changing the policy. I don’t see that.

        I don’t believe in Putin (let alone Hitler) as a “savior”, nor do I believe in unsubstansiated conspiracy theories.

      5. Franklin –

        “Don’t engage in silly conspiracy theories.”

        I tossed the silly conspiracy theories in bibles and korans and talmuds and protocols years ago.

        Too bad many more have not taken your suggestion…
        ……. and done the same. Especially Pharisee-Jews…!! 🙂

      6. @ Krum

        Right, that is his ear lobe. In the “old” Putin the ear lobe is kind of “split” and thin. In the “new” Putin the “split” has disappeared and the lobe has become “fuller”. You can achieve that by simply injecting some botox in the ear lobe. Notice that the shell of the ear and its rim in both pictures is exactly the same. You don’t have two individuals in real life with exactly the same form of the shell and the rim of their ears. Conclusion : the “new” Putin is the “old” Putin + some facelifts and botox. Unsurprizingly his politics has remained the same.

        Here you see a picture of Putin before the changes and you can immediately understand why he undertook them :

      7. @ Krum. Off-topic. There are many theories about whether Hitler committed suicide in the bunker or fled to another country. I found this page on the Family Search site. It lists a person named Rudolph Hitler, who emigrated to Brazil in 1978. He was/is a German National, born in January 1945, the son of Adolph Hitler and Eva Braun. Fascinating. I’m going to look further.

      8. @Pat

        “Don’t engage in silly conspiracy theories.” “I tossed the silly conspiracy theories in bibles and korans and talmuds and protocols years ago.”

        Funny thing, my book, The Conspiracy of Man, is based on a conspiracy by the Essene to neutralize and destroy the so-called “second” temple and its sacrificial system.

        What’s more, the Essene specifically sought out a woman with the required blood linage to enable her male offspring’s induction into the Temple priesthood.

        The Essene, a mystical sect, then paired this woman (Mary) with a minor temple priest (Joseph) to produce Jesus who would be taken into the Nazarene’s Monastery known as “Nazareth” a short distance from Bēt Laḥm, where he was taught Temple law and custom.

        Before jumping at the idea that this is utter absurdity, that such a conspiracy is simply too far fetched to be believable, note that conspiracies are not only common-place, but the secret conspiracy is a standard form of opposition throughout history. This should be obvious because such opposition would be immediately eliminated by the stronger power were the opposition’s plans were openly known.

        As for breeding individuals for specific tasks, once again this has been commonplace throughout history. Monarchies are perhaps the most obvious examples of breeding people for a specific role. Jews are perhaps the masters at such breeding, producing an entire race of people (in)bred specifically for the task of promoting Jewish power and culture throughout the world.

        Not enough you say? Then I leave the last word to a Jew, Chaim Kaplan, who kept a diary during the Warsaw ghetto uprising. He wrote: “Every nation, in its time of misfortune, has conspirators who do their work in secret. In our case, an entire nation has been raised on conspiracy. With others the conspiracy is political; with us it is religious and national”.

        Now if you can’t believe a Jew – who can you believe?

      9. Arch –

        What I have been amused at over the decades is that if I tell someone something new….
        …… they call it a ‘conspiracy,’ to dismiss it out of hand…. rather than inquiring further…..
        ….. admitting they did not know something.

        If I repeat it to them a year later…. they claim they knew it for years..!! 🙂

  6. As Pat always says, “it’s all guess work”. We can only guess, and no one really knows if Putin is the real thing or not. Only Fr. John knows for sure about Putin, except Fr. John mysteriously disappeared on us — just when we needed the Russian Orthodox High Priest the most, 🙁 . [ lol ].

  7. The Sucker would be better off worrying about his well-being in Florida, where he seem to dwell, rather than be worried about the prospects of Russia across the globe.

    This “Russian military analyst”s doomsday predictions bring to mind a fish swimming in a nice fishbowl and speculating about what is about to happen in the ocean, based on rich information she extracted from a sea shell at the bottom of her fishbowl.

    1. @ Circassian

      Your comment is concise and appropriate.

      I’ll add a little detail.

      The Saker wrote, “As I have already mentioned many times now, Syria is beyond the Russian power projection capability (roughly 1000km), especially if that power projection has to be executed through hostile territory (which Turkey most definitely is).”

      And, “The Russian forces in Syria are comparatively weak and isolated”

      Since the Russians established themselves in Syria without the need for Turkish approval or passage, the Saker’s statement is obviously not reflective of an already established reality.

      The Saker need to buy a map and look at it. The USA is a lot further away from Syria than Russia. Russia has already demonstrated their ability to use their cruise missiles from Russian waters to nail Syrian targets. Yes, the USA has aircraft carriers. Aircraft carriers are basically obsolete and make excellent targets for advanced missile technology that the Russians have, leading the USA in that area by about 10-years which is a tremendous Russian advantage. While the USA invested in obsolete technology, Russia invested in missile technology that there is no defense for.

      The USA does not have the manufacturing base needed to fight a conventional war against a very well armed country which is why they only attack small, relatively defenseless countries. This is also the reason why the USA/NATO/Israel use proxy armies to do their fighting instead of their own troops.

      The Saker seems to think that protection from NATO is meaningful. Without the US military, there is no NATO worth considering. Consequently, the two previous paragraphs apply again. If there is going to be a WWIII, it will have to be nuclear for these same reasons.

      The Saker apparently doesn’t know that Russia has already established their own no-fly-zone over Syria with S-400’s which also covers the Eastern Med out to Cyprus and most of Israel. If it flies, the S-400 can eliminate it whether aircraft or missile.

      I could go on picking this Saker article apart, but he just isn’t worth it.
      I stopped reading the Saker a good while back. He came across as a misinformation agent to me. It’s not hard to pick them out using more facts along with a little rational thinking.

      1. Correct Ungenius, about the cruise missiles.

        Russia has really good missiles because the US controls Russia’s missile manufacturing through privatized industries and investments. GE-Russia has manufactured thousands of turbine jet engines for Russia’s military and commercial aircraft.

        Russian supersonic Klub-S 3M-54E1 missiles are made by the Novator Design Bureau (OKB-8).

        In 1991, Novator Design Bureau became part of the ‘Open Joint Stock Company JSC Concern VKO “Almaz-Antey” which is owned by the Federal Agency for State Property Management (Rosimushchestvo) and that is headed by Olga Dergunova from June 29, 2012 to present, she also holds the rank of Deputy Minister for Economic Development of the Russian Federation.

        Olga was the CHAIRPERSON of Microsoft-Russia until 2007. She worked in Russia for Bill Gates.

        She was a member of the Executive Board of OAO “Bank VTB” until 2012. A banker.

        All of the entities above are Joint Stock Companies, which have been made so – fairly recently – by Putin to increase ‘Capitalization’…. To attract more investors…. That includes individuals and investment firms like Goldman-Sachs and JP Morgan and GE.

        JPMorgan Russian Securities plc

        The Company aims to provide capital growth from investment in a diversified portfolio of investments in quoted Russian companies and Russian pre-IPO stocks (up to 10% of the gross assets of the Company) or OTHER companies which operate principally in Russia.

        “Other companies” would include JSCs which need capitalization badly, in Russia’s poor economy today.

        US company ‘Apple’ is worth more than all of the Russian stock market.

        Russia’s Pharisee Bankers, agents and subsidiaries from London, need the business… “War business.”

      2. In February 2015 the President of Russia signed a Decree to rename JSC Concern PVO “Almaz-Antey” to Concern VKO “Almaz-Antey”, and to increase its capitalization.

        The Joint-Stock Company (JSC) Almaz-Antey needs investors:

        ‘PVO’ means Protivo-Vozdushnaya Oborona – air defence forces, the Russian name for the Soviet Air Defence Forces branch of the Soviet and Russian military. ‘VKO’ (or BKO), the Russian Aerospace Defence Forces, was the branch of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation responsible for air and missile defence, and the operation of Russian military satellites and the Plesetsk Cosmodrome.

        Today, the enterprise is implementing a project for the development of the North-West Regional Center of Concern PVO Almaz-Antey OJSC, a modern engineering research and production complex. The North-West Regional Center building project, based on the factory is being implemented within the program of removal of the industrial enterprises from the Petersburg city center. St. Petersburg enterprises that are parts of Almaz-Antey will be transferred to facilities of the future center. This will make it possible to vacate over 40 hectares of land in the St. Petersburg city center. As of today JSC Radio Equipment Plant has already transferred its facilities; OJSC Special Engineering Design Department will be shifted in 2013-2014, OJSC Russia’s Institute of Radionavigation and Time and OJSC Order of the Red Banner of Labour All-Russia Radio Technology Scientific Research Institute will transfer their facilities in 2014-2015.

        More debt instruments get this:
        In August 2015, the Russian Aerospace Forces was created, and includes both the Air Force, and the Aerospace Defence Forces.

  8. Why I’m Not A Patsy :

    Pat has too many pat answers for very complicated, involved reasons for the wars in the Middle East and Putin’s involvement in the Middle East. That’s why I’m not a crumb either, that’s cause I don’t care for pat answers to complicated situations. Pat just grew another hydra-head, I guess. Is that a good guess on my part, Pat, or no? Or yes? Or maybe? [ LOL ]. What’s your guess, Pat, on how long you’re going to keep your hydra-head “Krum” before shedding it like a chameleon snake sheds its skin to better fit into its new environment it slithered into? 6 weeks? 6 months? 6 years?

  9. Two jew girls from the office of Alex Jones, from his Hollywood-In-Texas Austin movie studio, pretending to be “moozlums”, were hassled in an Austin coffee shop Sunday morning by jews from emerick’s office/movie studio pretending to be “Christians”, Oh boo hoo hoo hoo hoo…. Let’s see if Lynch lynches emerick’s jews pretending to be “Christians” who hassled the two jew grils from emerick’s office pretending to be “persecuted” “moozlums”. More bullshit from the “alternative” media, an “alternative” media that just LERVS to throw gasoline on the fire started by the mainstream media ; As the “alternative” media claims to be opposed to the mainstream jews, the “alternative” media does its part to stir up shitloads of animosity, all designed to lead to WW3. The “alternative” media also LERVS hoaxes, all the hoaxes of the “alternative” media designed to lead us to the very same place the mainstream media hoaxes lead us, to WW3 and to the ultimate destruction of the USA. I do NOT trust your “alternative” media, at least not the section of the alternative media Darkmoon is part-and-parcel of.

  10. I wouldn’t take anything from this “Saker” guy without a kg or two of sea salt.

    His real name is Andrei Raevsky.

    According to one of his former associates with the “Saker community of blog sites” (

    ///He was then apparently hired on by the United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research (UNIDIR) out of Geneva, which sent him on several tours to ex-Yugoslavia, specifically, he claims to have been involved in “disarmament negotiations” (which can only have been detrimental to the local Serbs) in Croatia and Bosnia. Having thus cemented his friendship with the Serbs, he immigrated to the USA and underwent further grooming at the Paul H. Nitzke School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University, the happy hunting ground of the likes of Madeleine Albright, Condoleeza Rice. He now lives on the Atlantic coast of the state of Florida within a stone’s throw of some 30 military installations who have no problems with his primary activities: broadcasting war against the phantom “Anglo-Zionist empire” (in the cartoon where the Western sponsored ISIL are the good guys) and soliciting donations from his (chiefly left-leaning) supporters in exchange for kitschy wallets imprinted with the Saker image, and autographed copies of his book.///

    Anyone who hides behind the kosher skirt of “AngloZionist” (or “AngloZionism”) to denote Yankee neocons is suspect in my book. And his so-called “analysis” . . . is more like a certain type of co-intel propaganda.

      1. @ Justice For Chinese

        No, he has NOT “outed the Saker as a fucking KIKE”, as you crudely put it, losing credibility at once by the foulness of your language and your willingness to believe the very worst against the Saker.

        I believe David Chu has a personal grudge against the Saker after being banned from posting comments on the Saker’s site. I could be wrong about this, but that is my personal belief. Mr Chu’s name rings a bell…

        Think twice before accepting every spiteful bit of tittle-tattle you hear on the internet. Judge the article on its own merits. That’s all you are required to do.

        Do not be swayed by childish ad hominem attacks and baseless calumnies coming from a man who has probably been slung off the Saker’s site for rudeness and discourtesy.

      2. @ Justice For Chinese

        Having read David Chu’s quotation above, you conclude foolishly: “OMG! You’ve just outed “The Saker” as a fucking KIKE!”

        This is the David Chu quote you read:

        “He [The Saker] now lives on the Atlantic coast of the state of Florida within a stone’s throw of some 30 military installations who have no problems with his primary activities: broadcasting war against the phantom “Anglo-Zionist empire” (in the cartoon where the Western sponsored ISIL are the good guys) and soliciting donations from his (chiefly left-leaning) supporters in exchange for kitschy wallets imprinted with the Saker image, and autographed copies of his book.”

        A pity Mr Chu DOCTORED the quotation by leaving out the final sentence of the paragraph! This reads:

        “Like any good apologist for Islam, Raevsky [i.e., the Saker] is also a RABID ANTI-SEMITE.”

        So tell me, Justice For Chinese, how can “a rabid anti-Semite” be “a fucking KIKE Jew”? 🙂


    1. David Chu,

      A little while ago there was another piece from ‘the Saker’ published here after which I checked out the source; the Saker’s website. I was just browsing the content a bit searching for WWII/Hitler/Holohoax/yada yada articles and soon found one I opened. And there it was, evil Illuminati financed Nadzees commited the holocaust. Well, so much for ‘the Saker’. Didn’t pass the truther’s Litmus test then. And this information confirmes that. Thanks.

      1. @ 1138

        I notice that, like David Chu and Justice For Chinese, you provide no reliable links to substantiate your defamatory claims about the Saker being a nasty crypto-Jew. The Saker article you object to happens to be sourced from Information Clearing House, one of my favorite bookmarks. ICF is not a site known for publishing articles written by shady crypto-Jews! 🙂

        Why don’t you and the two Chinese Saker-bashers, David Chu and Justice For Chinese, write to the editors of all these well-known ANTI-ZIONIST websites, pointing out that the Saker is a “fucking KIKE” in disguise? You wouldn’t get anywhere, would you? 🙂

      2. @ Sardonicus

        You are right. For my part, I need no convincing that the Saker is a good writer doing his best to express a valid point of view truthfully and sincerely. If the Saker were such a disreputable character, none of these excellent websites would publish his articles, would they?

      3. Sardonicus,

        I’m afraid ‘Global Research’ is swarmed with articles written with Marxist glasses on.

        You won’t get wiser reading that. Classic disinfo. Nothing impeccable about it.

    2. @ David Chu. “He was then apparently hired on by the United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research (UNIDIR) out of Geneva” Yes, I found this link.

      UNIDIR United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research Geneva Disarmament and Conflict Resolution Project Managing Arms in Peace Processes: Croatia and Bosnia-HerzegovinaPaper: Barbara Ekwall-Uebelhart and Andrei Raevsky

      1. @ Red Onions

        @ David Chu. “He was then apparently hired on by the United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research (UNIDIR) out of Geneva” Yes, I found this link.

        UNIDIR United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research Geneva Disarmament and Conflict Resolution Project Managing Arms in Peace Processes: Croatia and Bosnia-HerzegovinaPaper: Barbara Ekwall-Uebelhart and Andrei Raevsky

        Your link, if correct, proves only that “Andrei Raevsky” worked for the the United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research (UNIDIR) out of Geneva”. It does NOT, however, prove that “Andrei Raevsky” and the Saker are the SAME PERSON!

        This assertion that the Saker and Andrei Raevsky are the same person comes from ONE obscure and disreputable website specializing in disinformation whose details I cannot even find in Alexa!

        So you have no leg to stand on, neither does David Chu, when you assert without any real proof that the Saker and Andrei Revsky are the SAME person.

        Prove it!

      2. @ Svetlana. No need to get huffy.

        “So you have no leg to stand on, neither does David Chu, when you assert without any real proof that the Saker and Andrei Revsky are the SAME person.

        Prove it!”

        Here you go, from the horses mouth:

        “Yes, my name is Andrei Raevsky, and the photo is me (cross-country mountain biking in Florida) but much of the rest is plain wrong, especially the chronology.”

      3. @ Red Onions

        Okay, I concede you win a victory on that point. I wrote in haste. Nevertheless, you attitude is inconsistent because you appear to think the worst about the Saker and seem to agree with David Chu and Justice For Chinese when he says: “OMG! You’ve just outed “The Saker” as a fucking KIKE!” and so you hate the Saker whom you have cleverly identified as Andrei Raevsky.

        Why is your attitude inconsistent? Because you ought to LIKE Andrei Raevsky or The Saker since you have been told — on the same site from which we get all this info — that Raevsky/The Saker, far from being a kike, is in fact a “rabid anti-Semite.” 🙂

        This is what the article says:

        “Like any good apologist for Islam, Raevsky is also a rabid anti-Semite.”.

        You can’t have it both ways, Red Onions. If the Saker is a “rabid anti-Semite”, you shoudn’t be attacking him! This is because you are an anti-semite yourself and approve of anti-Semites, right?

        I hope you will be gracious enough to concede that I have a point … just as I have been gracious enough to concede that YOU had a point!

      4. @ Svetlana. We have different mentalities. I am not here to “win points”. Re-read my posts. David Chu said Saker “apparently” worked for UNIDIR, and I provided him a link to confirm the fact. I then provided a link to you to prove Saker was Andrei Raevsky. I never dissed the man. Sardonicus and Darlington would say you threw a “hissy fit”, before finding out the TRUTH.

      5. @ Red Onions

        I am not here to win points either. If I were, I would not openly admit that you have put me in my place and taught me a lesson. I thank you for that. The only thing that interests me is in getting at the truth. I am relieved to learn that you weren’t dissing the Avatar.

        I have read the article very carefully, Red Onions, and honestly, everything the man says seems to make sense to me. He is attacking Turkey for being in the wrong. He commiserates with Putin for having limited military options and commends him for showing self-restraint and not rushing headlong into a war that he believes Putin would lose, given the vast forces arrayed against him. He ends by quoting a sentence of Putin that shows he is on Putin’s side and that Putin has the moral high ground.

        Everything the Saker says here is totally reasonable. There is absolutely no attempt to distort the truth and present disinfo. Note that all the Saker’s attackers here have not a single word to say about the Sakers FACTS (indisputable) and his ARGUMENTS (logically sound and plausible). Instead, all they can do is attack the man personally with ad hominem slurs.

        They act just like the proverbial Jew does: attacking the man personally with ridicule and contempt — rather than dealing with the facts.

        I am glad you are not doing that.

      1. Since the first time I saw “BRO NAT” I knew he was a controlled dissent STOOGE. His trick is telling his audience what they already know while keeping them in a state of complacency by convincing them that STOOGES like Trump and Putin aren’t J controlled. BRO NAT censors comments that expose him as the SHILL and STOOGE that he is. Saker likewise is fit for a trash can.

        Once again Mr. Roberts nails it—-
        Published on Dec 6, 2015

        Muslims and other non-White invaders kill us in our own lands then these Shabbos Goy puppet politicians talk of bombing ISIS in the Middle East (check), of gun-control (check), and of bringing in more terrorists (check). Yeah, J’s don’t have an agenda to destroy us. No way. They have the perfect solutions to the problems they have caused.

        Keep believing.

      2. @ JPOWER

        “Since the first time I saw “BRO NAT” I knew he was a controlled dissent STOOGE. His trick is telling his audience what they already know while keeping them in a state of complacency by convincing them that STOOGES like Trump and Putin aren’t J controlled.”

        What are you babbling about boy?

        Brother Nathanael tells it straight up.

      3. @ Lobro

        You are one of the few people here whose ideas I implicitly trust. In the light of what you say about the Saker, I feel I must now make a radical adjustment to my ideas.

        What you appear to be saying is this: “Forget the Saker’s brilliant article, just consider the man’s bad record — his dodgy links with Nato and so on — and you will then see his article in a new light.”

        Well, I confess, I knew nothing about the Saker’s personal history. Nothing about his background.

        All I did was read the article and judge it on its merits. And it seemed a pretty good article to me. Logical, reasonable, factual. No attempt to distort the truth. Blames Turkey. Says nice things about Putin. Praises him for showing restraint and not lashing out at Turkey like a mad bull, thereby precipitating WWIII. Wishes Putin well with that final quote in the short video.

        Anyway, thanks for putting me right and giving me a different perspective on the Saker.

      4. @Sardonicus

        Well, I confess, I knew nothing about the Saker’s personal history. Nothing about his background.

        All I did was read the article and judge it on its merits. And it seemed a pretty good article to me. Logical, reasonable, factual. No attempt to distort the truth. Blames Turkey. Says nice things about Putin. Praises him for showing restraint and not lashing out at Turkey like a mad bull, thereby precipitating WWIII. Wishes Putin well with that final quote in the short video.

        Calm, sensible, and quite prudent exercise of judgment, in my view.

      5. Sard,

        What you appear to be saying is this: “Forget the Saker’s brilliant article, just consider the man’s bad record

        Not at all, Sard, I agree that is quite a good, mostly factual piece, all I am saying is that David Chu is right.
        Oftentimes, Makow says all the right things, as does Alex Jones but if their background has questionable spots, then you must wonder when the other shoe will drop.
        As far as I can see, Bro Nathaniel is in clear, but if you show me corroborating evidence to otherwise, I must take him under advisement.
        It pretty much goes for everyone, you and me included.

        Certainly, the Holocaust is the prime litmus test, followed by 9/11 and there is a slew of others in descending order.

        When I hear about Illuminati, British royals, Jesuits, Vatican, Nazis hiding under polar caps, I know that someone is blowing smoke up readers’ asses and ask myself why.

        Now Saker may well be genuine but the pertinent questions are how does he get away as a Russian operative connected to UN/NATO policy wonks in Geneva during the Balkan wars, then segues to sunny Florida to safely, without harassment run a powerful, well designed blog, almost how Huffington Post started or even Al-Jazeera or may I say, Rita Katz and SITE, while everyone thinks he is a Kremlin insider.
        See, I am asking Patesque questions (that Pat would ask).
        If Putin said, Saker is our guy, I’d wonder too.

    3. Sard,
      although J4C is wrong to accuse Saker of being a kike, pretty much everything Chu said is on the ball.
      Very easy to get kicked off his site for any disagreement with the official line.
      By own admission, Saker worked with NATO affiliates, stealthily holding candle for Serbian Chetniks insane slaughter of Bosnian Muslims along with Lawrence Eagleburger, MHRIH (may he rot in hell), the Uberjew who was US ambassador in Belgrade before Bush senior put him in that position, essentially what Victoria Nuland is today wrt Ukraine and Paul Wolfowitz wrt Iraq, the White House designated master warmonger.
      Afterwards, he headed the Jew commission on Holocaust compensation, read, extortion, plundering state vaults of Switzerland, Hungary, etc.
      Like I said, MHRIH.
      And the Saker guy hovered somewhere close by, if anything, Yeltsin’s boy.

      Cum kilo salis, as Dave Chu correctly noted and Franklin will no doubt doubly correct, advance thanks.

      Now let me read the article.
      One thing worth noting in advance, if Russia has a shortage of modern tech, it doesn’t lack for a fighting heart, with NATO it is the exact opposite.
      If they can’t keep Afghanistan pacified, how successful would they be in Russia?
      Boots on the ground, remember?

      And another thing, I brought up many a time:
      in the final showdown, the warmaking parasite must pay the heaviest price possible.
      If Putin doesn’t make sure of this, then MHRIH too.

    4. this is the second article i have read from the saker in this site
      his analysis somehow make sense to a amateur audience
      but who is the saker ? my gut feeling tell me ,he or she is a disinformation agent for the international zionists tribe.
      if only the masked rebellious Jewes quit playing with our minds 🙂

      1. @ Abdul

        Your gut feeling about the Saker being a Zionist disinfo agent is pretty worthless. I could just as easily say,”My gut feeling is that this guy Abdul is a Zionist troll who has managed to infiltrate the darkmoon site — watch out for his snake in the grass!”

        But I won’t say it. It would be worthless, like your comment. What is needed, my friend, is evidence. Hard evidence. Not woolly speculations. 🙂

  11. -The West is now preparing an (illegal) intervention inside Syria-
    Saker you know very well that this phrase does not really … How can i say it … .emanate a light of truth with us arabs becsause we know that not a single arab goverment is democratic.. Therefore assad’s regime is eligitimate because of fraud (his father took over through a coupe) and thus this shit about “he can have the russians and the iranians bomb the country to the stone age” but.. When others do it .. Its “ilegal”, it doesnt walk..
    Another one and this one is laughable is when you write “Economic sanctions: Russia has declared a number of sanctions against Turkey, including the freezing of the Turkish Stream project. Furthermore, Russian tourism in Turkey – a huge source of revenue – is most likely to dwindle down to a tiny what it used to be: Russians will not be banned from going to Turkey, but no tours or packages will be offered by Russian travel agencies.”
    Lol Russians cant travel to any muslim country because they will lose their lives.period. And the turkish stream project will have, i guess, to remain that, a project, no hurry;
    Russia needs to go home and take assad with them

    1. So I guess according to you the West did a pretty good job invading Irak and Libia, right?

      The more dead moslims the better, right? Your logic, not mine.

      I’ll bet you drank to that when they killed your sunni buddy Saddam Hussein in public 🙂

    2. @Avatar

      Arab countries are notoriously unfit for democracy. The best thing that can happen to them is to have a good dictator. Qadhafi was one and Bashar al-Assad is one. Governments that are “legitimate” through democracy is a luxury Arab countries don’t need.

  12. The mask slips even further:

    “Additionally, with Iran’s soon-in-coming introduction of its own fighter jet squadrons into the Syrian theater to genocidally massacre even more Sunnis, the Saudis and Turks will be forced to deliver shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles to take down the Assad barrel-bombs, and the Iranian fighter jets. With those anti-aircraft missiles in Rebels’ hands, Russia will start to suffer catastrophic losses.” – [added emphasis].

    ‘Turks will be forced to deliver’

    Deliver to who… ?

    So, a Nato member is arming Nato’s ‘moderate’ terrorist enemies, who will then ‘moderately’ shoot down Russian jets. With the free press ‘moderately’ cheering it all on, mocking Corbyn as a dangerous warmonger:

    “Jeremy Corbyn has made us targets for jihadists, shadow cabinet member warns”

    And none of this, in anyway, is disturbingly schizophrenic, is it?

    Just as well they’ve not surreptitiously poached full and total control of the Western handcart from the shadows, on our watch, or we could be in trouble. Oh well, at least the borders are still open, so we can still have an uplifting sing-along in perfect harmony with John and Yoko… you know… as we’re not… ‘borderist’, or anything like it.

  13. If push comes to shove, Russia will have no other option but to take down overnight the fifth column, i.e. government of Russia in its entirety, which is basically a US controlled body, and replace it with a provisional military rule. It can be done easily because the army and secret services are on Putin’s side.

    This would only precipitate and accelerate Putin’s final victory. So, it is highly unlikely that Putin will be cornered and left with no other option but resort to direct revolt.

    The real danger for Russia comes from within – not from outside military action. The wet dream of US State Department is to stage a color revolution to remove Putin from power. Quite a few attempts have been already averted since the American debacle with Crimea.

    This is just the latest one: MOSCOW — The revolution has been postponed again.

    1. Putin is far too popular for a “color revolution” to succeed. Besides, he is fully aware of the danger of foreign subversion. Several foreign NGOs, including George Soros’ “Open Society”, have recently been banned from Russia.

  14. I am sometimes surprise of the superficiality of some comments , done by people who let fool themselves easily.
    Hitler was a double agent ? Putin has been killed and replaced ? They serve nwo agenda ?
    Well, we can know almost everything about Adolf Hitler nowadays, if we want of course, and his thoughts ,his speeches and his actions speak for themselves. He has been the nigtmare of the jews, and still is. He was the greatest hope for the europeans. May God give us a leader pure as he was. May his spirit rise from the grave.
    Putin is something else, but as many realize is in the same situation as the Fuhrer was. Hitler did not give up , maybe Putin will ,who knows. I have no doubts he is a honest man, he could have had a much better life if was a
    traitor of his people, even the most critical of him has to agree. About the doubles? Many leader at risk have used them , Hitler himself , Saddam for example. Putin was a secret agent, and he is clever in handling preassure, Hitler was impatient and extremely sensitive, this is a huge difference and we can see in the theater of the international arena, he is highly unpredictable and all the world is waiting for the next move. But as for the Fuhrer, the fight is inevitable unless he give up. The jews want total domination, and they cannot risk that somebody grew free from their grip. They fear that we can coaelesce again for our valours,which are not the one they are imposing us for decades, so like Germany in 1938. Russia must perish, or be enslaved again. Somebody will object to my analysis and reply that Russia is already enslaved through the central bank. Correct, this is the way back.
    Putin is not Hitler, when he will burn the ships behind like the Fuhrer did than will be hell on hearth, the jews are prepared because they own the world and they can hide everywhere, and because is in their plans. The armies should realize they are the executioners and the executed, and maybe take some appropriate actions. A real commander is needed in the Usa, this is the solution .

    1. @ The Roman

      Well said, sir. You have brought some sanity into this discussion. We are grateful for your presence on this site.

      1. I was just going to say that, Toby.
        You stole my line.
        Now I am going to sulk for the rest of the day.

        (Written by lobro’s double in case Toby gets mad and moderates me with extreme prejudice)

    2. “About the doubles? Many leader at risk have used them , Hitler himself, Saddam for example.”

      Yep. I would, too. Solid thinking.

    3. Roman,

      “A real commander is needed in the Usa, this is the solution .”

      I totally agree. A coup is the best option.

      1. Roman –
        1138 –

        Commanders will only let you down.


        Free guns and cocaine and booze for everyone over 18.

        In less than 5 years all idiots and addicts and criminals will be gone. Dead gone. Done.

        Clean slate.

    4. Roman, I also want to say “Muchísimas Gracias!” for your SANE comments.

      “May God give us a leader pure as he was. May his spirit rise from the grave.”

      I will state for the record publicly on Darkmoon: Adolf Hitler was probably as close to the “Jesus Christ” character as this past generation and this current generation will even have the grace to receive and to acknowledge.

  15. Sudetenland is next door to Ukraine, isn’t it.

    And Victoria Nudelman is the unholy and unclean byproduct of Rosa Luxemburg and Baal, copulatio pudendo.

    And Hitler’s hand was forced to strike first, since the spawn of Satan were pouring in from Bolshevik side, yet he struck in the wrong direction, having misread the feint.
    He should have hit Britain, brought City of London to Nuremburg and the problem would have been 85% solved right then and there.
    My hunch is that Stalin would have been perfectly fine with that.

    Ojala! that Putin reads the secret signs and plays his hand right this time, don’t waste power on illusionary targets, hit the Puppeteer, not the puppets.

    1. “He should have hit Britain, brought City of London to Nuremburg and the problem would have been 85% solved right then and there.”

      Yes, and in that case a teensy weensy bit of nutcrushing here and there would have been entirely justified 🙂

  16. My advice to Putin – Vlad, are you listening?

    Grab Georgia real quick before it joins NATO.
    Easy, just manufacture a pretext, a color revolution, couple of false flags and march in heavily “to restore law+order and protect innocent lives”.
    MSM would scream but so what, they would scream no matter what.
    A dangerous hole in the vulnerable southern flank plugged, Chechnya bottled in, can now bring more pressure on Turk, link up more easily with Iran across already friendly Armenia and Azerbaijan.

    I would do it, then sit back and play dumb, like what, they asked to join coz they wuz scared of dem terrists, ain’t we all bros fightin terra?

    1. My advice to Putin – Vlad, are you listening?
      Grab Georgia real quick before it joins NATO.
      Easy, just manufacture a pretext, a color revolution, couple of false flags and march in heavily “to restore law+order and protect innocent lives”.

      Putin: Yes, Lobro, I am listening. If I am not mistaken, the ‘lightning war’ strategy you are suggesting is what Germans – I speak German a little – used to call blitzkrieg in the good old days. I appreciate your advice, but I believe you are confusing me with someone else.

      I hope you won’t take me for a coward, but I’ll just stick to the strategy that seems working best for our people – I welcome Atatürk Erdogan to Russia and we’ll embrace him, as we always do, with open arms.

  17. Another clever move by Vlad, days old:
    mandatory 5 yr slammer for anyone denying Armenian holocaust by Turk.
    Armenia loves it, cozying up to Russia even more, Turk pissed, Jew scratching under yarmulke, oy gevalt, Vlad sprung a trap.

    They would love to Deny Holocaust, wouldn’t they?

    Just try, little cucarachas, come to daddy.

  18. Those of us who have above average reading skills don’t need to spend so much time trying to figure out if an author is jooish or not before deciding if we believe what the author is saying or not. Actually, those of us with true reading ability don’t need to spend any time trying to figure out if an author is a joo or not. Learn how to discern what you read, discern the words you are reading, then you don’t have to spend any time trying to figure out if the author is a joo or not. The words hold the meaning of what the author says . Words have meanings and the meanings transcend whether the author is a joo or not a joo. So just learn how to discern the meanings of the words you read. True education requires keen reading ability. Another point : If you come to the conclusion an author is not a joo, that doesn’t necessarily mean such a non joo author is telling you the truth, you stoopid jackasses. NON joos have been known to lie also. Learn how to read. Reading requires discernment. One doesn’t need to do an IBM blood/DNA test on an author before figuring out what the author is saying.

    Gee, if I can only figure out if the author is a joo or not, then I’ll know what the author is trying to say and I’ll know for sure if I can believe what I’m reading, but first I have to know if the author is a jew or not. Get a blood test kit and do a blood test on the author before you read anything, you stoopid illiterates, 🙂 . If the author turns out to pass the blood/DNA test and I know for sure the author is not a joo, then I know the author is telling me the truth. How retarded does it get at Darkmoon. LOL.

  19. Putin intervened in Syria so Putin could impose joo Rothschild usury on the moozlums in Syria. The Italian government just announced yesterday that the Italians will not be taking part in USrael/NATO/ZOG’s bombing campaign [ ostensibly against ISIS but really a ZOG bombing campaign against Assad’s army/Putin’s military forces], so now we know for sure “The Roman” is a joo, a joo troll, because “The Roman” is from Rome and in Rome yesterday the Italians said they’re not going to take part in bombing Russia’s military in Syria and Putin wants to impose joo usury on the moozlums in Syria, so the Italians, it turns out, are on the side of the joos who want to impose joo banking usury on Syria. Those countries who do want to bomb Russia’s military in Syria and bomb Assad’s military are ANTI-joos because they don’t want to see Putin impose joo banking usury on the moozlums in Syria, it’s very obvious to any discerning ANTI-NWO hipster who follows world events, LOL. Sure, Pat, whatever you say. The Zionists in Washington who are drooling to bomb Assad’s army off the face of the earth and bomb Putin’s military in Syria off the face of the earth are really “ANTI-jooish”, lol. McCain and Graham and AIPAC are “ANTI-joo”, because they don’t want Putin to impose jew usury on moozlum Syria, that’s why they want Putin out of Syria. Putin is gung-ho PRO joo!!! “The Roman” is a joo!! Washington is ANTI-joo!!! LMFAO!!!!

  20. If Putin is all about the jew NWO and all about imposing joo usury on Syria, then that makes “Bro” Nathanael a total liar, because Kapner claims to be against the joo NWO while he lauds Putin [who is all about the joo NWO] to-the-Heavens. Plus, it gets more dissimulating even as Trump supports what Putin who is doing in Syria, yet “Bro” Nat doesn’t like Trump who supports what his jew NWO hero Putin is doing. Confused yet? If Putin is all about the jew NWO and “Bro” Nat LERVS Putin, yet “Bro” Nat also simultaneously dislikes Trump who supports what the jew NWO Putin is doing in Syria, then maybe “Bro” Nat doesn’t like the jew NWO Putin after all, because “Bro” Nat dislikes Trump who likes what Nat’s hero the jew NWO Putin is doing in Syria [ something like that, but you all know what I mean, lol] . Then maybe “Bro” Nat is not lying when he says he’s against the jew NWO. Who the fuck knows, it’ so dissimulating, the “alternative” media is. LOL. It’s important one learns how to discern what one reads.

  21. Mikhail Khodorkovsky is subpoenaed. He is to show up at the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation on Dec 11 at 10:00 A.M. On refusal, he will be declared internationally wanted:

    The former head of Yukos, the founder of the political party “Open Russia” Mikhail Khodorkovsky said that he had been summoned for questioning as a “defendant in a criminal case number 18 / 35-03 “- the case of murder of Nefteyugansk Mayor Vladimir Petukhov, shot by killers 17 years on the orders of people close to the billionaire. The former head of Yukos charged in absentia with involvement in the murder, according to TASS.

    Khodorkovsky acknowledged the subpoena in his arrogant tweet: Delivered today to my father’s address. As if they don’t know my address. Informing you: Hanover sq. 16
    A sorry attempt to change the discourse.

    The poor sap does not seem fully aware that he is between a rock and a hard place.

  22. MY advice to Mr Vlad…. Keep the foreign investors interested in buying up Russia.

    More…. BIG BUCKS for Pharisee-Jew Bankers who ‘debt-finance’ your military… to fight their other ‘debt-financed’ investments in Ukraine, Crimea, Georgia, Syria… everywhere.

    They will appreciate you….. and all you do.


    Russia’s TASS reports Putin’s decree authorizes 70% foreign ownership.

    President Putin signs decree on consolidation of Sheremetyevo Airport assets
    August 28, 2015

    MOSCOW, August 28. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on establishment of Sheremetyevo Airport joint stock company with the government’s stake in the charter capital of at least 30%. The document was posted on the official website on Friday.

    TASS reports Boeing specialists briefed Putin on various projects….

    Russia hopes to boost cooperation in aviation with foreign partners — Putin

    August 28, 2015
    ZHUKOVSKY, August 25. /TASS/. Russia hopes for further development of cooperation in the field of aviation with foreign partners, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday.

    “We are talking about the development of cooperation and hope that it will continue to develop further,” Putin told Russia’s foreign partners near the Boeing stand at the MAKS-2015 International Air Show.

    1. MY advice to Mr Vlad…. Keep the foreign investors interested in buying up Russia.

      Mr Vlad: Thanks, Pat, for your excellent ‘London Pharisee bankers’ advice, but I believe you have confused me with Mr Boris.

      1. Please, Mr Vlad…. see the man in the mirror. He’s the one who did this 3 months ago… UNLESS IT WAS ONE OF THE OTHER PUTINS. …. and you did not check your ‘twitter’ account for new ‘tweets’ from that one since then.


        Russia’s TASS reports Putin’s decree authorizes 70% FOREIGN OWNERSHIP..!!

        President Putin signs decree on consolidation of Sheremetyevo Airport assets
        August 28, 2015

        MOSCOW, August 28. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on establishment of Sheremetyevo Airport joint stock company with the government’s stake in the charter capital of at least 30%. The document was posted on the official website on Friday.

        I see China is helping with expenses also, Mr Vlad.

        MOSCOW, August 25. /TASS/. A wide-body long-range plane the project of which is currently being developed by Russia jointly with China may become the first in the range of civil aircraft, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said on Tuesday in an interview to the Rossiya 24 TV channel.

        “If we acquire such partners as China we’ll be able to develop a whole range of civil aircraft,” he said.

      2. Mr Vlad: Thanks, Pat, again. Every time someone tells me that America is an existential threat to Russia, I always point them to your comments at darkmoon. The only drawback of this method of showing them that a country, full of people with reasoning power of Pat, could not possibly pose a deadly threat to us is that they flatly refuse to believe that majority of Americans are Pats.

        I would highly appreciate your advice – how to dispel this stubborn incredulity exhibited by my compatriots on this important issue.

      3. Mr Vlad, I feel obliged to warn you… that your Pharisee-Jew Banker buddies hate the light of day. But, you know that.

        I see you like Seattle’s Boeing already. That’s a good choice for wanting to have a ” serious partnership” like you said at the Airshow. They have seriously deep pockets for you to use for your failing economy…. since Russia’s Central Bank lost 40% in profits last year and laid off hundreds of people.

        Elvira Nabiullina told the BIS the layoffs will continue for several years. Boeing and GE can help.

        TASS quoted you….

        ZHUKOVSKY, August 25. /TASS/. Russia hopes for further development of cooperation in the field of aviation with foreign partners, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday.

        “We are talking about the development of cooperation and hope that it will continue to develop further,” Putin told Russia’s foreign partners near the Boeing stand at the MAKS-2015 International Air Show.

        “But we would very much like to build serious relations, partnership relations, the way it has been until now so that such things that are not clear do not appear there,” the Russian leader added.

      4. Mr Vlad, I feel obliged to warn you… that your Pharisee-Jew Banker buddies hate the light of day. But, you know that.

        Mr Vlad: Yes I definitely know that, Pat. But I asked you for an advice on a very specific topic. And what do I get? I get the impression of (as my Pharisee-Jew Banker buddy Michael Khodorkovsky would put it) ‘a sorry attempt to change the discourse’ from Pat.

        Besides, what use of your warning to me now when I learned from you that I am already dead. My Muslim buddy Recep Tayyip from our Muslim Brotherhood said it best:
        Oh, I am dead – what do I care!

      5. I know, Mr Vlad. Unlike you and the other twins of yours, I have a bad habit of staying focused. The article is about YOU… not me.

        I must make a correction, though. The bank employee layoffs were NOT hundreds, but thousands in 2013. The number was 3,500. And that was when oil prices were double today’s prices….. and ruble much stronger.

        Elvira told the BIS:

        “Resulting from the structural optimisation held in 2014, the Bank of Russia cut 3,500 jobs or 5.3% and its workforce amounted to 61,800 employees as of early 2015. I would like to note that the number of employees was reduced, while the Bank of Russia obtained vast powers as a megaregulator. However, we will CONTINUE reducing the workforce.

      6. I know, Mr Vlad. Unlike you and the other twins of yours, I have a bad habit of staying focused.

        Mr Vlad and Cmrd Pat, excuse my interruption of your lovely exchange, but ‘… have a bad habit of staying fuckassed’ ?! I am totally confused. We are repeatedly told by our European brothers that this type of Western values would be good for us, the rude Rus. Now our American partner says that this habit of his is actually a bad one.

        Very confusing!

  23. Whether or not ones likes the Saker, this article is worth reading and consideration. Conspicuously in absentia is any reference to China (where City of London’s influence is thriving!). The ‘global war’ has been engaged a looong time, now. Land is – and always has been – the only thing worth fighting for, and Russia has a surplus while her next door neighbor has a deficiency. It is foolish to ignore the very real probability that the controllers of China and Russia have not discussed some mutual advantages to backing each other in the event of ‘The Empire’s’ displeasure. Even more foolish is discounting the tremendous advantages to the enhancement of global plantation control such an alliance could gender.

  24. Here’s the interesting thing.

    To the Bible scholars –

    We’re told that Gog & Magog will attack Israel. People have been saying that Magog is Russia, but the city directly North of Israel is Ankara, the capital city of Turkey.
    Although this is bible prophecy, We know that Turkey is a ZOG, so how can Turkey attack Israel? The only other explanation I can find for Zion to promote prophecy is to simply lie by promoting that Gog&Magog is Russia. Then again, Israel, in biblical definition shouldn’t technically exist, hence why all the anti Zionist Jews protest about on a daily basis in the west.

    More so, Ezekial 38:5 states that along with those from the North (Turkey), Persia (Iran), Libya and Ethiopia (Sudan) will attack Israel and they shall be ‘two hundred thousand thousand’ (200,000,000). When one takes the collective size of these four countries, their population totals 201 million people.

    So what I want to know is, it’s obvious that this is not correct, because we know Turkey is a ZOG. So, this prophecy is either not discussing now, but the future when Turkey’s ZOG is overthrown.
    Can someone also clarify, as I’m rusty with the bible, but could they also be talking of Israel as in the people (Israelites scattered 11 tribes) here and NOT the land in Palestine?

    Thank you.

    1. Why don’t you just read the Bible yourself, Harbinger, and get yourself un-rusty in your bible studies. No one is obligated to give you any answers, especially as you seem to be happy and smug about being negligent, “rusty”, in your bible studies. You should be ashamed of yourself for being so proud to be rusty in your bible studies. The biblical information you glean will have a lot more meaning to you if you make it your business to un-rust yourself in your Bible studies, and not be like a parasite and depend on others who are not lazy and negligent in their bible studies to give you all the answers without you having to do any work yourself. Lackadaisical never makes the grade.

      1. TROJ,

        Well you see Josephine, I posed this question on what people’s views were on Gog&Magog, in reference to current events as explained in my post. My question to people, was the definition of Israel, either the land or the people.
        But BillyJoel, it does seem that you have no intention of answering but instead just, well, doing what you do best – going off on one as usual. I have to say, I am somewhat flattered. This is the first time you’ve had a dig at me and really and I think I can now, thankfully be classed as a regular, now that I’ve had the JouniperBerry treatment. Made my night mate, thanks for the ridicule. Hey, it takes the heat off of Lasha; the eye of Joeron is no longer transfixed on Miss Darkmoon. 🙂

    2. Israel is the informal body of believers, not the country Israel :
      The body of believers are scattered all over the world.
      The pseudo intellectuals are in for a rude awakening.

      The faithful one

  25. ” proving that Turkey does, indeed, purchase oil from Daesh.”

    Turkey does not purchase oil from Daesh (ISIS). A great article of true investigative journalism (rare these days) was published online in an English language Arab news site. It gave details of when, where and how ISIS takes the oil from fields worked for 8-hrs at night in Syria and Iraq. It is shipped to a refinery in Syria where it is marginally refined (boiled once), just enough to get legal paperwork for it as now a “refined” oil product and no longer crude oil. Turkey will not allow crude oil to be imported without the source country’s permission. Since the oil is now partially refined with proper paperwork in order it can now be brought into Turkey. There is bidding for the partially refined oil — it is bought for around 20-cents on the dollar of what it would otherwise sell for. 10% of the agreed purchase price is paid upfront, the remaining 90% is transferred to banks in Syria that ISIS can access. Overall, it amounts to $1 to $1.5-million per day for ISIS. The primary buyer is almost always a dual-citizenship (Turkey and Israel) Jew. The oil is then further refined in Turkey into usable product. 70% to 80% of the ISIS oil that is brought over the Turkish border by ISIS is sold to Israel, below market price. Israel does not have the ability to refine the oil so it must be refined in Turkey. A quoted spokesperson for ISIS said they did not intend for the oil to go to Israel, but they cannot control what happens after they sell it. If I remember correct, some of the oil often ends up in India and there was a 3rd country I cannot remember.

    1. What transpires is that it is JEW.

      I could have repeated it twice more but there are posters here who get mighty upset when I do that.
      Well, what a shocking surprise, it’s a JEW, who woulda thought.

      Jew conceives the war, (Jew) sells it to goy hyenas, (Jew) enjoys the abattoir while plundering fresh organs, (Jew) takes home 90% of the profiteering, (Jew) reaps the geopolitical fallout, (Jew) goes down in history as peacemaker to bloodthirsty goyim.

      See how many times I didn’t mention the name that would paint me as a raving antisemite.

  26. I have no doubt that both Putin and Obama are bluffing. Both know that holding world’s largest stocks of WMDs, both will come out with bloody noses if any of them started WWIII. Both also know that US and USSR had been at war (Cold War) for 50 years – but never attacked each others lands. They just massacred non-Russians and non-Americans. And mind you USSR was more powerful then – than it is now.

    So, relax and enjoy the US and Russia slaughtering Muslims and Christians as their proxy wars for the Zionist Jews and Christians.

    And why Putin and Obama, two Christians, want to destroy seven billion people? Well, an Australian Catholic academic Dr. Sandra Nasr explained this on December 3, 2015.

    “Zionism, the ideological project to secure a Jewish homeland, relies upon notions of separateness, superiority and entitlement. It finds its origins in the ‘promise’ believed to have been made by God to “His people” – Abraham and his descendants, the Israelites. According to this belief, they were to take the land by force, kill anyone who resisted, and take for slaves those who did not fight back (except in more distant towns which should just be cleansed. Biblical Theologian Professor Michael Prior called this ‘ethnic cleansing’, where God’s Covenant with the Israelites “was integrally linked with the mandate to exterminate the indigenous peoples,” Dr. Nasr said.

    1. Not sure I follow you, Rehmat.
      Are you saying that it would be better if Russia withdrew from the conflict?

      Let Israel, of which ISIS is the mercenary force paid for and supplied by Western goyim take over all the space between the Mediterranean and the Persian gulf, while ethnically cleansing it of indigenous people who are herded like cattle into Europe to destroy the leftovers of the white world.

      I am curious why you think that this is preferable to Russia digging in to help Assad government survive as the final and only bulwark remaining to the realization of the Yinon plan, Clean Break, Eretz Israel which they’ve been thirsting after for over thousand years, Avatar’s acid fuelled ravings notwithstanding (ISIS is a spontaneous, grassroots phenomenon, out of Chechnya, Mongolia, Morocco, it just so happened, able to manufacture own weapons, the holy caliphate, etc).

      I would almost want Russians to pack up and take off, just to shut up all these neuron-deficient Sunnis, here is what you asked for, enjoy.
      I am sure Avatar would swim all the way from Venezuela, Kalishnikov in his teeth, Rambo-like, to avenge his bruthas, take down Eretz and reestablish the holy caliphate after they were dismantled as no longer needed, Assad’s head on the stake outside the Damascus gate of Jerusalem, Druze militia patrolling the border with Iran while neocons in Washington are screaming for another war because look, Iran has now pushed its border right next to Israel.

      And a poster whose name escapes me right now would say that Putin withdrew in order to enable Rothschild banks to move in, proving that Putin is a Rothschild agent.
      (and I would agree)

  27. @ Rehmat :

    It’s very questionable that Russia [ then called USSR ] was more powerful back in the Cold War days then it is now. There’s a lot to suggest and point-to Russia being much stronger today then Russia was back in the Cold War when Russia was called the Soviet Union [ USSR ]. Certainly, the USA is much weaker today then the USA was back in the Cold War, and lots of evidence Russia is stronger today then back in the days of the Cold War. Russia has gotten stronger since the Cold War days and the USA has gotten weaker since the Cold War days, is the more correct analysis of the situation.

  28. I was blind but now I see … got hit by epiphany, that amazing grace.

    The mark of a Rothschild agent is that he resists Jew, thus creating opportunities for real estate speculation, reconstruction, Caterpillar dozers, parking lots, ATM’s … guys like Hitler and Putin are proven agents.

    The only way to defeat the Jew is never, ever to resist but to enthusiastically yield to each of his demands, yes mister Yid, want lands west of Urals, why not, go right for it, no one in your way sir Jew, oh, you want Siberian oilfields, Mr Khodorkovsky, why, of course, here’s the keys to the pipelines.
    That, more than anything would prove that Putin is definitely NOT a Rothschild man and it would lead to ultimate and final destruction of the Judaic threat to the world.
    And China and Iran, their eyes opened to the wonderful solution would no doubt follow, just do as Jew asks, lie down, shut up and be happy.

    Is there something I missed, like eat only kosher stamped food or is this the full formula for the glorious victory over dark Talmud, the one that double agents like Hitler and Putin ignored on purpose because they were soldiers of Talmud?

    1. … guys like Hitler and Putin
      … double agents like Hitler and Putin


      I am here to help you, but you are not listening, brother. You are on a wrong, self-destructing path. There can be no successful cure unless the patient realizes the gravity of his mental condition.

      Our kids having little fun

      Сдавайся русский свинья, Гитлер пришел (Surrender Russian swine, Hitler is here)

    2. Circ, whoever this punk thinks he supports, is not getting any favors.
      If you see any resemblance to Hitler and Germany, your imagination is a lot better than mine.
      In fact, if Pat sees this, he will report enough vodka fumes to call the fire department, this guy could self combust at any moment, causing grief to gentry and livestock.

      Strictly speaking, I don’t have a dog in this fight, I am neither Russian not Ortho-Christian, don’t have shares nor options with Russian stock exchange, not Muslim, it is not, not, not, who is there, lobro traveling light.
      Not so with you, no need to list your allegiances, historical or present.

      All I am looking for is release from Jew bondage that’s got the world in its captivity and trying to explain to bovine minds just who is it that put the ring through their noses and is yanking them this way and that.
      I am not fighting any side battles, not multitasking, oh, while we are at it, let’s settle scores with dagos and lesbians.

      You clearly have an anti National Socialist chip implant in your head, another on your shoulder and no logic or evidence will ever change that, so I no longer try, ANYONE is better than National Socialists as far as you are concerned, including the blackest, the most messianic of the curse mumbling Kabbalist warlocks as they lay the burnt offerings of 3-yr+a-day sacrifice on HaShem’s vile altar.

      To me, it is like arguing with a Right Sector goon who prefers Kolomoisky’s servitude to joining forces with his Rus brothers, blind hate is a powerful force when directed by a skilled hand.

      I am a Catholic more by birth than choice, of Croatian ancestry, again not by choice, so if I was following my roots (or should it be “rut”?), I should hate both the Russians and the Orthodox Christianity with passion.
      Yet I don’t, I cheer them on, know why?
      Because, on reflection, I judge them to be right in these times.

      Do you know who founded the psychotic Azov Battalion, The Punishers?
      A f*****g Croat right winger, believing himself to be a Nazi, a true torch carrier for the old timers – and all the time obeying the will of Zion.
      What a joke, may he be incinerated with White Phosphorus.

      So you see, I am not some paint-by-numbers ideological cutout, I steer my own way, based on the facts presented.

      No need for hiding behind ad hominem hit+run tactics for me.

      1. Lobro,

        I am not losing hope. In fact, I see some encouraging signs of improvement in your condition. Admittedly, I resort occasionally to some brutal shock therapy tactics, but – believe me I am dead serious now – the gravity of your condition, which I would describe as chronic Hitlerjugend syndrome, justifies these severe interventions.

      2. Dear Lobro,

        Suffice to say not to waste your time anymore with any person who indeed thinks that “ANYONE is better than National Socialists”, as is clearly the case with (y)our ideological opponent. If someone is convinced, or at least for some reason persists, that 2+2 is 17 instead of 4 then something is fishy in that person’s head. To such a person someone else’s recognition of true greatness is synonym to an infatuation. Enough to doubt one’s ability to see the big picture (which is far less complicated than perceived) and/or certainly one’s motives.

        The doubts some have about Putin is not really understandable because so far he does everything contrair to what Jew agents would do, and actually Are doing in our countries. But it is slightly imaginable they are misguided given the 873 trillion available webpages full of info and disinfo and theories, etc. about what he is currently doing and his motives. He has my trust, but we will have to see if that is justified. It seems unthinkable now (to me), but should it become clear that the doubters were right I will be the first to eat my words.

        But for instance the economic, political and cultural accomplishments of the National Socialists are well known and acknowledged, even by mainstream historians And any informed person knows the Holohoax is beyond any doubt a hoax. But despite all that the Fuhrer is just a charlatan or a Jew agent? How big of an imbecile do you have to be to really believe that? I leave it at that.

  29. Putin’s Rabbi Berel Lazar giving a lecture, “Jewish life in Russia: Yesterday and Today” at Oxford University. Nathaniel Rothschild is guest on honour.

    “Tonight’s lecture will be delivered by Chief Rabbi of Russia Berel Lazar. We are honoured to be hosting him and we thank him for coming out to Oxford despite his extremely busy schedule

    Tonight we are also honoured to be hosting the Honourable Nathaniel Rothschild, who is here with us tonight as Guest of Honour. We thank him very much for coming.”


    “One example, this morning the speaker of the parliament came to visit the synagogue and this evening the head of the election committee came to visit the synagogue to speak to the Jewish community about the upcoming elections. Having in one day two such important people visiting a Jewish community centre shows how much things have actually changed. In the past the same people in the government were attacking the Jews, blaming all problems on the Jews. If there was no water in the sink, it was because the Jews took it. We finally see that there is not just understanding but respect, as well.”

      1. @Wiggins. I thought that too. Maybe because papa Jacob Rothschild is a LORD, he adopts a title. So many effing Lords/Ladies are jewish, way out of proportion to the population. And there lies the secret. They have infiltrated the British aristocracy and wormed their way into every power of influence. It’s Talmudic.

  30. Having finally read very carefully this “key article” by one who calls himself “The Saker” aka Andrei Raevsky of the Paul H. Nitzke School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University, I want to make some comments as to why this type of “geopolitical analysis” is typical “Axis of Evil” (USA/UK/ISRAEL/EU/NATO) “co-intel pro” propaganda and obfuscation.

    First of all, what is posted here on Darkmoon is a verbatim repost of an article called “The Empire Strikes Back: Week Nine of the Russian Intervention in Syria.” Except for one tiny thing.

    The original article ( begins with the following paragraph that is omitted here for some reason. I am not criticizing Lasha or the editor(s) of Darkmoon for doing so, but to illustrate a key point.

    ///Considering the remarkable success of the Russian intervention in Syria, at least so far, it should not have come as a surprise that the AngloZionist Empire would strike back. The only question was how and when. We now know the answer to that question.///

    [1] “The Saker” begins his “geopolitical analysis” with a LIE or at least a Big Obfuscation.

    Most people would associate the word “Anglo” with the British as in “Anglo-Saxon,” especially when it is spoken. I know that there are a few anal-retentive commentators here on Darkmoon who will break open their online dictionaries and point out the fact that the written word “Anglo” means “English-speaking American as distinct from a Hispanic American,” whereas the other written word “Anglo-“ means “English” or “of English origin.”

    Here, Andrei Raevsky aka Mr. Saker is trying to pass off the “Yankee-Jewish Empire” as the “AngloZionist Empire”! Or is he trying to imply the “British-Jewish” Empire when he uses the word “AngloZionist”? Hum.

    [2] The suggestion that Vladimir Putin and Mother Russia is afraid of NATO or even USA is laughable. Adolf Hitler and National Socialist Germany almost “conquered” the entire European continent (and defeated Yankee forces) in a clean conventional war, save for the tens of millions of Russians that Jewish Bolsheviks were able to con into fighting (and dying) for them against Germany. Of course, Mr. Saker doesn’t believe in any “revisionist history” about WW2, only in what is taught from the Paul H. Nitzke School of Advanced International Studies. Today, NATO is basically the All-Lies of WW2 minus the Soviet Union, plus an effeminate and circumcised Germany.

    NATO is a hodgepodge of multiculturalism and “Tower of Babel” nations that couldn’t even agree on what time to have their afternoon tea without invoking Article 4 of the NATO Treaty! To a second-rate nation like Yugoslavia or Libya, NATO seems to be invincible and all-powerful, mainly due to their air superiority (both Yugoslavia and Libya really didn’t have an air force). But to Russia? Ha!

    The parallels between today’s Russia and yesterday’s Germany are so eerily similar, as Harbinger and 1138 pointed out. Crimea and Austria being one example. Today, Putin’s Russia is basically Hitler’s Germany without an exposed rear flank (China has that taken care of) and is much stronger militarily. Russia is the premier nuclear weapons superpower on planet Earth. Why do I say this? Because Russia is the only nuclear weapons superpower that has an effective and probably nuclear-tipped ABM (Anti-Ballistic Missile) system (or systems) already deployed to defend their nation and their strategic sites such as Moscow (viz., the S-400 and the soon-to-be deployed S-500). What do USA and NATO and Israel have? Jews in Israel couldn’t even stop a few model rockets from raining down upon them without crying out to their mommy Baphomet.

    Furthermore, US/NATO can’t even defeat the rag-tag Taliban in Afghanistan and they are going to defeat Mother Russia when she has never been defeated in modern history?!? What is Mr. Saker smoking down there in Florida? I hope it’s not the same stuff as PAT!

    [3] The notion that Russian options in Syria are very limited is bogus. Here is one powerful game-changer and it is not far-fetched. If and when the Russians in Syria feel that they are threatened in any significant manner by potential All-Lies ground troops (not talking about ISIS or Al-CIA-Duh) or by “mistaken” aerial attacks, above and beyond what Russian S-300, S-400 and other conventional military assets that are already deployed in and off Syria can handle, they will do what they have always publicly said that they would do when their “national security is at stake” which is to deploy their tactical nukes. They may even have them already in place in Syria. A Big Maybe. The Russians only publicly announce their completed feats after the fact. Sometimes not.

    During the brief war that Russia waged in Georgia in August of 2008, after the Georgians first attacked and then killed Russians in South Ossetia, Prime Minister Putin (on his cell phone during the opening ceremonies of the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing) ordered tactical nukes into Georgia pronto as “a clear and present warning” to US/Israel/NATO “advisors” in Georgia NOT to try anything fancy or to do anything stupid. This hidden episode is nowhere reported in the Western lamestream media and only a very few “alternative media” mentioned it.

    [4] What is missing in all the geopolitical analyses that I have read including this piece, is the fact that this blatant Turkish “stab in the back” was clearly instigated and ordered by Washington and Tel Aviv for another specific purpose: to kill the Turk Stream gas pipeline supplying natural gas from Russia. Once the Sultan of Swing crossed his Rubicon, Russia didn’t have a choice on this matter. Everyone is talking about delaying this project including the Russians, but the Turk Stream has been effective shot down to pieces. Now, the Nord Stream-2 is also under attacked by 9 US/EU lapdogs.

    Even the great Pepe Escobar hasn’t yet mentioned this particularly glaring perspective of the November 24 “stab in the back” . . . that it was done to kill at least 2 to 3 big birds at the same time.

    God bless President Putin and Mother Russia for not allowing the “AngloZionist Empire” to kill off Syria nor getting suckered into WW3!

  31. @ Pat

    Re: Doubles and Dummies

    If Putin is controlled opposition why would he fear for his life and use “doubles”? He’s fully protected, right? He’s a “made man”, a “wise guy” in the Kosher Nostra, right?

    Who has double-crossed whom? is the real question I’m asking.

    1. Yeah, and more, if Russia and China are also controlled just as our lands are, why don’t they start to decimate the world population already and create the global version of the Sovjet Union? Why would Russia also pretend to fight ISIS? Why would anyone pretend to care about the fake anschluss of Crimea to Russia? Why bother to go through all the tedious and no longer necessary show motions any longer? Hell, why even bother to still maintain the central bank system at all? Why o why?

      Questions and questions. But no answers. Only endless rabit holes going nowhere. But hey, if it will get you through the day, I’m fine with that.

      1. 1138,

        Now you know that I don’t have to tell you this but in order for the one world government to come into power, the people have to essentially desire it. The more I think about it, the more it reminds me of the film “Cabin in the Woods” where the characters had to want the hell they were about to face. They had to choose it. To equate this with reality, remember the saying by Paul Warburg:

        “We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest”

        February 17, 1950, Committee on Foreign Relations

        The point is 1138, in order for world government to happen the elites will make such chaos in this world that the people will be begging their governments to intervene and allowing them whatever draconian legislation they desire in order to stop the chaos, of course unbeknownst by the people that the government are puppets of those behind all of the chaos.

        If Russia and China are controlled countries; and when I look at what Pat has to say on Russia with its connections to Judaism and the Rothschilds private bank as well as the fact that China IS where it is today because of the West (CFR, RIIA, Rothschilds), there is reason to believe they are, then all they have to do is just continue playing the game.
        All of them will know about the depopulation agenda. They will know that world war has to come and horrendous loss of life (making WW1&2 look like a picnic) to follow. They also know that they will be taken care of throughout for doing their part and very possibly disappear in one of the massive underground cities that are being built all over the world.


        What if Russia’s Putin is a rogue operator of the elites, put into power by them but has found God and has a conscience? What if he is letting China know, via Assad of Syria and what’s happening there that the elites look to destroy most of the world’s population by creating a hell on earth? What if he is another Hitler wishing to defend the Caucasian peoples from mass genocide? Remember that the Syrians are Caucasians too along with the Persians.

        The thing is that at the moment we really don’t know what’s going on with Putin and Xi Jinping. They are keeping their hands very close to their chest and the only ones I can see causing any problems are undoubtedly the west. Putin is going to be damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. Because of Putin helping Assad and the recent attack on the Russian bomber, then I am veering over to Putin, but he could simply be stalling in order to set the battleground and kick of for WW3 in Syria as western troops start piling in. The thing is 1138, there really is no crucial proof that Putin is pro or anti NWO at the moment. Sure, he’s spoken against them, but that doesn’t really proves anything. We know that politicians are exceptional liars.

      2. Harbinger,

        I have no doubt that through banking the Serpent has a presence and to a certain extent a handle on things in both Russia and China. But I don’t think there isn’t any resistance in those lands. I also don’t think (think, not know) that the populations there are as alienated from their roots as our western Europe’s populations are. And I also believe that there are elites (political, industrials, academia) in Russia and China that are patriotic (just like in National Socialist Germany) and not in Jew’s pocket, unlike ours. Enough to make me believe that Jew hasn’t got control over Russia and China.

        Besides, do you think that the people in the former Warschau pact countries or the Sovjet Union actually wanted the Warschau pact or the Sovjet Union after WWII? The sick minds who invented that didn’t need consent because there was nobody to stop them from creating this nightmare. So if 2 major power blocks like Russia and China (the only ones outside the West) are under their control what are they waiting for? We cannot know of course, not really, but based on what I can see, this is my consideration.

      3. No need for war to reduce the population, it only damages resources, which Jew would never do without reason.

        Consider the multitude of options.
        As it is, hundreds of thousands of Americans are murdered annually by the “medical care”, gross negligence or intentional malpractice, same thing to the corpse, just recall the advice by the Grand Sanhedrin to the expelled Spanish Jews.
        And the pharmaceutical industry can very easily ramp it up.
        They can manufacture deadly disase strains after Odigoing Jews out of the way, they’ve been developing bioweapons for decades.

        Big agribusiness is Jew owned and thru it they control food supply, all it takes is to lock the doors of Wal-Mart and similar chains and there will be mass starvation within 2 weeks and what about water, when people are reduced to saving chemtrailed rainwater or drink from diseased puddles.
        No, the population reduction can be achieved cheaply and rapidly.

        Which means that the war is war, ie, real, absolutely no need for the theatrics.

        Consider yourself as the owner of a large, luxurious estate of 2,000 acres, fertile lands, old forests, arable fields both cultivated and fallow, lakes, creeks, orchards, a central villa in Roman style with marbled, collonaded portico, central courtyard with fountains, surrounded by manicured gardens, flower beds, nurseries, shaded paths … and all maintained by an army of skilled slaves, farm workers, gardeners, horticulturalists, foresters, game keepers … if anyone steps out of line, you direct the rest to tie him up at the whipping post for an object lesson.

        What need is there for banks, ATMs or violence, where you issue them with axes, adzes, picks, hoes, saws and machetes to go hacking at the plants and forests and each other and maybe even endanger you and your family?

        Sounds like a lot of nonsense to me that Jew is today in total control, no meaningful, organized resistance and all the strife and conflict is some kind of morbid entertainment.

      4. Lobro,

        Yes, I think so, too.

        And that is why I believe that the current developments are not theatre but a real battle, such as the world has witnessed before. But again, according to some that too was just all a con, aah pfff. For what purpose one might ask. Because exactly as you stated, for decimating the gentile population no war is needed. That’s simplistic thought.

        But those who believe that are blind to the fact that all the central banking, all the media control, all the social engineering, all the stifling of true history being taught, is just INSTRUMENTAL, not the goal. If every nation would already be under total control then exchanges like these wouldn’t be possible, nor necessary for them, as even truthtelling by the odd individual (like us) is used by them to point the finger at as proof that evil neo nazi’ do exist and that these hate-speech laws are entirely justified.

        But indeed, give them the opportunity to place a central bank, media control and bought and paid for ‘elected’ politicians in every nation and yes, then they will have total control. And that’s what all the current (proxy) wars are about. That’s the way I see it. It’s really not more complicated than that. And once you are in the know, you are in the know. But you have to want to or be able to recognise it.

    2. JFC –


      “If Putin is controlled opposition why would he fear for his life and use “doubles”?”

      John Lennon was controlled. He did not have a ‘double.’

      ‘Definitely controlled’ Ford (Warren Commission stooge) had his moments with Moore and Fromme…. Both women.

      ‘Controlled homo’ “Red Ronnie” Reagan had his Hinckley moment.

      Just because someone is controlled… does not mean 100% assassination proof.

      ‘Wise-Guys’ not a good example. They have very short life expectancy… They lie in streets with brains on display on concrete all the time. They really need ‘doubles’ and ‘triples’…. and more.

      The London Pharisee Bankers would have even MORE need for the ‘doubles’ in Putin’s case.
      Putin has made more people mad than John and Yoko did. Many within walking distance.

      1. “Putin has made more people mad than John and Yoko did. Many within walking distance.”

        He seems to have a growing global fan base and that certainly makes some people mad.

      2. 1138 –

        Many Russians are NOT happy with CHINA being praised as a FRIEND AND PARTNER.

        Смертельный друг – Китай
        Deadly One – China


        Published on Jul 30, 2015:

        Twentieth edition of the cycle of films “Deceived Russian”

        That there is only a flagrant violation of our civil rights, the transfer of the two islands to China?
        Now it is strategically important island from China for half an hour and they can be in the center of Khabarovsk. In the old days this would be called a betrayal.

        Source: http: //rus-portal.rf/genocid-rusov/1339-smertelnyy-drug-kitay-obmanutaya-rossiya.html
        © Rus-portal.rf

        (critique from a Russian site):

        Deadly one – China. Deceived Russia.

        That there is only a flagrant violation of our civil rights, the transfer of the two islands to China?

        Now it is strategically important island from China for half an hour and they can be in the center of Khabarovsk. In the old days this would be called a betrayal.

        Authorities to bring their citizens, threatening their security.

        But we say that China is a friend of a friend, never in his life he did not attack.

        Do you think if the state that has the doctrine of peaceful expansion, ie, peaceful settlement of the adjacent state their citizens, it is with these neighboring citizens think?

        What do you think, if China fulfills exercises in deep snow cover, which is only in Russian, he was not going to attack us?

        If he buys our tanks with two motors, knowing that if one engine fails during the war with Russia, he will not be repaired, it will put the second.

        The school taught the Chinese that Siberia and the Far East – it is THEIR historical homeland, and is temporarily in the hands of the unjust owners. You still think China is a friend?

        As the Chinese are destroying fertile land.

        Mass starvation. Fertilizers. Chinese in Russia [parasitic system]

        All can be solved, but social parasites unprofitable, because when people are hungry, they are much easier to make war. Chinese in Russia. In China, nitrogen fertilizers “poured” in the field of millions of tons. Every year, China loses 5-7% of fertile land, ie, exponentially this year to 5-7%, the following is already on the remaining 5-7% of the earth, it is 10-14%, etc. That is 10-15 years, and China does not remain fertile land, it will happen because of the fact that modern technology applied “highly developed” society – chemicals.

        Where will move 1.5 billion Chinese people hungry?

        First of all Russia. And it is not a theory, look at what is already happening.

        The Chinese have flooded the Far East, buying plots, cut down all the wood, dig and process roots, remove all the fertile soil and taken to China.

        It remains dead land. Underground tunnels are made, reaching under the border, and these tunnels are taken echelons rusky forest and land.

        This is already happening now. Local authorities, who have eyes but money is nothing, it’s all encouraged.

        If the Chinese now are trafficked from Russia all the way up to the turf, imagine what will happen in 10-15 years.

        But even in such a critical situation, there is a solution, in the same China dead land can be restored, cleaned of toxins, etc.

      3. Pat,

        You write: “Just because someone is controlled… does not mean 100% assassination proof.” Really? I mean are they really “controlled”? Why would someone who is 100% controlled be assassinated by their Controllers?

        The jews are crazy and bloodthirsty, for sure, but why would they assassinate someone totally and completely under their control? That’s just too crazy even for jews. It doesn’t make any sense unless the “controlled” weren’t controlled anymore — not 100% at any rate, and we know how anal retentive the kikejews can be when it comes to having 110% control.

        (BTW, the psychological profile of jews (anal retentive control freaks) precludes the possibility of them having nukes placed all over the world for their Sampson Option, if nukes even exist, precisely because it is technically if not logistically impossible for the kikejews to have complete and absolute 100% control over them (nukes) every single second of every single minute, 24/7, and 365 days for, well, if you really think about it, forever!)

        In your list, you left out the most controlled of the controlled opposition: Martin Luther King Jr. (the Black Civil Rights activist of the 1960s not to be confused with the German Martin Luther, the famous theologian and reformer who led the Protestant Reformation in the 16th-Century).

        MLK Jr. was a pharisee jew creation and 100% controlled — even his name, Martin Luther King Jr., was over-the-top fake — a jewish creation and fantasy. The so-called Black Civil Rights Revolution was a jewish financed and led Social Engineering PsyOp. See E. Michael Jones who has written brilliantly on this. In a nutshell, MLK Jr. was groomed by the jews to be the next Martin Luther in their world revolution during 1960s.

        So why did they assassinate MLK Jr. then? What’s your guess, Pat? My guess is that he was assassinated when he spoke out against the Vietnam War. That was when he went off script or rogue and left the reservation and developed a conscience as Harbinger would say. Is this not a logical or reasonable guess?

        Pat, you served (the kikejews) in Nam, so you, of all people here at DM, should know what absolute BULLSHIT that war was, right?

        Some have argued (John Kaminski for one) that the Vietnam War was basically about drugs and getting GIs hooked on heroin and bringing it back State-side. I concur and would only add that the Vietnam War was a continuation of the Jewish Opium Wars in China in the 19th-Century.

        In short, the Rothschild Template for destroying nations via drugs and addiction was first tested and perfected in China in the early 1800s and the kikejews have been using it ever since.

      4. JFC –

        I find no fault in your Nam beliefs.

        Lt. Col. Bo Gritz, America’s most highly decorated Green Beret would find no fault there, either.

        Colonel Bo Gritz Addressing the American Liberty Lunch Club:

        What I want to tell you very quickly is something that I feel is more heinous than the Bataan death march. Certainly it is of more concern to you as Americans than the Watergate.

        What I’m talking about is something we found out in Burma – May 1987. We found it out from a man named Khun Sa. He is the recognized overlord of heroin in the world.

        Last year he sent 900 tons of opiates and heroin into the free world. This year it will be 1200 tons. (video showing discussion at Khun Sa’s headquarters — some translation of Burmese to English going on..Bo Gritz still talking to Lunch club in the foreground)

        On video tape he said to us something that was most astounding: that US government officials have been and are now his biggest customers, and have been for the last twenty years. I wouldn’t believe him. We fought a war in Laos and Cambodia even as we fought whatever it was in Vietnam. The point is that there are as many bomb holes in those two other countries as there are in Vietnam. Five hundred and fifty plus Americans were lost in Laos. Not one of them ever came home. We heard a president say, “The war is over, we are out with honor – all of the prisoners are home.” and a few other lies. Now we got rid of that president, but we didn’t get rid of the problem. We ran the war in Laos and Cambodia through drugs. The money that would not be appropriated by a liberal congress, was appropriated. And you know who we used for distribution? Santos Trafficante, old friend of the CIA and mobster out of Cuba and Florida.

        We lost the war!

        Fifty-eight-thousand Americans were killed. Seventy-thousand became drug casualties. In the sixties and seventies you saw an infusion of drugs into America like never was before. Where do you think the Mafia takes the heroin and opiates that it gets through its arrangement with the US government? It doesn’t distribute them in Africa or Europe.

        The whole sory… Including Ollie North… aka… John Caffey

        More on John Caffey:

      5. @JFC,

        I think you may be right about MLK being murdered in part due to his anti-Viet Nam War stance. However, if you have read Jones or watched some of his videos on Peter Helland’s you tube channel you will also understand that there was a breakdown in the Jewish-Negro alliance after their biggest victory which was the Civil Rights Movement. King went to Chicago and that was his big mistake. Even the Chicago Tribune at the time did not understand his message in Chicago. They said something like, “It seems Dr. King is saying to citizens in Marquette Park to leave so blacks can move in!”. It was a complete mystery and a complete failure. It was also most likely a set-up. This was 1967 and one year before the ’68 riots during the Democratic National Convention in Chicago which were designed to take down the Democratic Party and the last standing Big City Boss Richard J. Daley.

        Of course King had been assassinated earlier in ’68 so they could kill him young and make him a martyr. Kind of like the old adage, “die young and bury a good looking corpse”. He died just in time to to make him a Holy Ghost in one of the State Sponsored Jew Religions, the first one actually, which was The Civil Rights Movement. This was to be followed by the minor religions like Feminism, Homo Rights, and now Global Warming. But I am starting to digress. In short, he had outlived his usefulness.


        How was John Lennon controlled in your view? This is something I would like to examine. I did not know that when John and Yoko moved to NY the first people they sought out were Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin. That in my estimation was his fatal mistake and fatal alliance. And it makes sense that he would have Deportation problems from the standard narrative since he worked to free a radical like John Sinclair and was about to mount a concert tour/voter registration drive to encourage the 18 year olds who had just been granted voting rights by a recent amendment. By the way, even though he has a WASPy sounding name Sinclair had to be a Jew right? Sure looks like one.

        Yoko seems to be some kind of witch that controlled John as a Mommy Figure and I believe he was easy prey to her because he took to many LSD trips and his mind was probably mush. She even supplied him with her choice of girlfriend when she sent him on his so-called “Lost Weekend”. Whatever the case may be she turned him into a complete panty-wasit. Writing songs like “Woman is the Nigger of the World”.


    I want to clarify a few things you said about me and “the Saker”:

    ///A pity Mr Chu DOCTORED the quotation by leaving out the final sentence of the paragraph! This reads:

    “Like any good apologist for Islam, Raevsky [i.e., the Saker] is also a RABID ANTI-SEMITE.”///

    The verb “to doctor” means “to change the content or appearance of (a document or picture) in order to deceive; falsify.”

    I purposefully left out that last sentence because it is NOT true as the “the Saker” aka Andrei Raevsky is definitely NOT a “RABID ANTI-SEMITE”!

    I was no more trying to deceive and falsify what I did quote by leaving out that last sentence than Lasha or the editor(s) of Darkmoon is trying to deceive and falsify this article by “the Saker” by leaving out the first paragraph of his article which I pointed out in one of my comments above (

    Not only was I NOT banned nor kicked off his blog nor in your words “probably been slung off the Saker’s site for rudeness and discourtesy,” but I was one of his blog moderators up until the end of April of this year when I resigned due to personal reasons.

    We parted ways permanently later over my article titled “The Jews ~ A Declaration of Truth to the Goyim!” ( which I emailed him (and copied several of his blog moderators) to enlighten him on the real and hidden history of WW2 which he is blatantly ignorant of and proudly so as to publicly state it, i.e, he strongly believes in the Jewish Holocaust, Evil Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany, Righteous Soviet Union of WW2, Official Yankee Narrative of WW2, etc.

    So, you are somewhat correct that “David Chu has a personal grudge against the Saker. . .” but not from being banned from his site. My “personal grudge,” if you want to call it that, is really about pointing out the errors and lies and obfuscations disseminated by “the Saker” and not letting him get away with them publicly, now that his “geopolitical analyses” are being posted here on Darkmoon which I consider to be one of the last bastion of truth online.

    During our email exchanges over my “Jews” article, he dismissed the entirety of my article by trying to nail me down on the singlular issue of whether I believe if Jews are a race or not. I wouldn’t let him corner me on that singular issue as it cuts both ways and is really a “straw man” argument. What I said to him was, “The Jews are a race when it suits them, they are a Satanic club when it suit[s] them.”

    His last two email remarks to me are as follows and I will let YOU be the judge as to who is speaking the truth and who is obfuscating, and if “the Saker” is a “RABID ANTI-SEMITE” or not:

    ///I know. I told you that very clearly from the first email. I do not want to challenge your arguments [the real and hidden history of Jews and WW2 as I wrote them in my “Jews” article] because I chose to challenge your assumptions>/u>[that there is NO material difference among all the various “types” of Jews and that Jews are monolithic in their secretive thinking and deceptive acts towards the non-Jews or Goyim]. If your premises are wrong, then your entire argument is wrong [meaning my entire “Jews” article which I challenge everyone to read in its entirety and decide for themselves]. To go after the premises of an argument is a totally honest and logical way to challenge a thesis. This is absolutely not tossing the baby out with the bathwater. In fact, when tossing the baby out with the bathwater the person acting is assuming that the two cannot be separated. Thus in order NOT to toss out the baby with the bathwater you have to challenge this mistaken assumption.

    I am surprised at the vehemence and hostility I sense from you [he is saying this because our email exchanges were being copied to several of his moderators]. Why are you angry with me? All I did is something basic: I look at a key assumption of your argument. I even allowed you to chose (for your argument) whether Jews are a race or not and then. You then chose to act EXACTLY like they do by refusing to make that choice. Instead, you said that I did not understand Satanism (you did fail to substantiate that claim, by the way).

    Dear David, in this discussion it is crucial to have logic and truth on your side. And you cannot win by using the exact same obfuscations as your opponent does. You criticize Jews by using typically Jewish pseudo-logic and that is something I refuse to do. Jew say “we are different and better” and you say “Jews are different and worse”. To both sides I say “define ‘Jew'”.

    My thesis, and Gilad Atzmon’s, is that Jews are a tribe. Shlomo Sand proved beyond doubt that there is no such thing as a Jewish race or ethnicity (if only because Ashkenazim are mostly Khazars!). As Gilad correctly says “Jews are not a race, but they are racist”.

    You also fail to realize that your position gives no choice and no hope to any Jew who would want to reject the Jewish tribal ideology. Since you consider him/her as the enemy by birth, by genetic makeup, you will never accept him as your brother so your position forces him to fight. That is a very bad tactic.

    I have known enough “Jews” in my life (here I mean “Jews born into “Jewish” families) to know that they are not in any way more prone to evil than Gentiles and that given the choice they chose good over evil in the same ratio as Gentiles. This is why Saint Paul wrote “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms”. [Bolded emphasis is mine.]

    So your stance is as morally wrong as it is logically flawed. If my words offend you and you cannot cope with my criticism, then don’t send me your articles. If you do, then expect me to fully use my moral right to challenge their contents.

    Kind regards,

    The Saker///

    To which I succinctly replied: “YOU WIN! Good luck to you when the ‘Jews’ unleash their next Holocaust! David”

    ///Dear David,

    I suggest you calm down and think about it in a logical way. I don’t disagree with you that there is a “Jewish question” (even Sartre wrote about it!) and I consider Zionism one of the three most evil ideologies out there (along Wahabism and National-Socialism). So we agree that there is a problem. Where we disagree is on it’s nature and, therefore, on the correct way to deal with it. But can’t we disagree and continue to seek the truth without getting upset about it? What would you prefer – that everybody simply give you a standing ovation or that we have a friendly but honest discussion about these issues?///

    1. @ David Chu

      Dear David,

      I apologize sincerely for any offense I gave you. You have now explained the situation with the Saker perfectly and I admit that I spoke foolishly when I said, without any evidence to back my claim, that you had a grudge against the Saker because he threw you off his site. It was very wrong of me to say that.

      I sometimes have bad days, as Pat will tell you. I have also attacked Pat in the past, much to my regret. Why? I suspect that Pat has said something which has questioned my basic assumptions, giving me cognitive dissonance. I wrote to Lasha, asking for advice about cognitive dissonance. She replied: “Sardonicus, you must get used to living with other people’s ideas. There are many different types of fish in the sea and you just have to learn to swim with them. Quot homines, tot opiniones.”

      I had to ask a learned friend what that meant, since I don’t know Latin. He said it meant, literally: “How many men, so many opinions.”

      Anyway David, I just want to say you wrote a splendid article. In many ways, ground-breaking. I don’t think you said anything in that brilliant article that I could possibly disagree with.

      All the best,

      Osaka, Japan

      1. No apologies necessary!

        I won’t say anymore about this “Saker” on Darkmoon, only if his articles are posted here AND if I see any errors or lies or obfuscations on his part!

        And thank you, Sardonicus, very much for your very kind comments and your other comments on Darkmoon. It’s really amazing the quality of commentators who have flocked to Darkmoon.

        Kudos to Dr. Lasha Darkmoon and all the hard-working editors here on Darkmoon for putting together such a fine site!

  33. – – Rich – –
    December 12, 2015 at 5:38 pm

    “@Pat, How was John Lennon controlled in your view? This is something I would like to examine.”

    I found this online. I had read some of it over the years:

    The Manufactured Invention of the Beatles, Stones, Grateful Dead and the Birth of Rock n’ Roll by the Tavistock Institute; A Jesuit Corporation.

    “The fact that “The Beatles” had their music and lyrics written for them by Theo Adorno was concealed from public view.” John Coleman, former MI6 agent.


    Who Killed John Lennon and Why It Still Matters Today

    There is hard evidence the CIA assigned agents to “investigate the music industry.” After the murders of Tim Buckley, Jim Croce, and Mama Cass Elliot, more information surfaced about earlier mysterious deaths of Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, and Janis Joplin. Listed below, but not updated this past year, are some of the rock musicians who have died since the Huston Plan and the FBI Cointel-Program were activated. If these people had been taking any kinds of drugs, there is the distinct possibility that specific poisons were added to their drugs, enough to be fatal, to make it appear that they had died from a simple “overdose”.

      1. HP –

        Interesting info.

        I looked at all the pics of Lennon. He had a distinctly crooked and offset nose and philtrum. The top of his nose was skewed to his right. (Twisted almost as badly as Brian Williams’s face. Brian’s twisted chin was way worse.)

        So much so… a straight perpendicular line drawn from the left limbus of his philtrum would cross between the left side of the bridge of his nose and the inner corner of his left eye. Not the center of his nose’s bridge.

        Also his upper lip was more defined as it turned down at each side of the philtrum.

      2. Pat, Renaissance men like Miles, aren’t exactly common or popular, these days!
        Probably more Man-Bear-Pig sightings..

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