The “No Nuclear Bombs” Conspiracy theory


The idea that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were “firebombed” and that no nuclear weapons were used against them, because no such weapons even exist to his day, can be dismissed out of hand as arrant nonsense. Several of our best commenters, armed with historical facts, have pointed this out. Others, impervious to logic and factual information, persist in peddling the conspiracy theory that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were “firebombed” and that “no nuclear weapons” exist at all!

Political analyst Franklin Ryckaert, in a few choice words, has dismissed the above conspiracy theory as worthless trash. He points out correctly:

The political implications of atomic bombs being a fraud would be enormous.

It would mean not only that the US had cheated the world, but also that the UK, France, Russia, China, India, Pakistan and Israel had been cheating the world in a similar way.

The “treason” of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg would have been a fraud, and they would have been executed for nothing. 

The Israeli whistleblower Vanunu would have been lying also, by “exposing” Israel’s nuclear arms program when no such program existed.

Israel would also be feigning right now to be concerned about a possible Iranian nuclear bomb, knowing that no such bomb had ever been built.  

As for the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, that too would have been a total fake, with both Khrushchev and Kennedy cynically aware that they were engaged in a bogus argument about non-existent WMD! 

Occam’s Razor would suggest that none of this nonsense is possible.

Beautifully put. There is simply no answering this. Ryckaert is the voice of common sense. He says what ought to be obvious to anyone with half a brain.

Apart from Ryckaert’s incontrovertible arguments listed above, other points need to be noted that are equally persuasive. If we are to accept the “No Nuclear Bombs” conspiracy theory, we would then have to believe that the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) was essentially a bogus organization. For if there are no nuclear weapons, there would be no raison d’être  for the IAEA. Its 22 member states, its Board of Governors, and its countless inspectors in numerous countries would all be engaged in fraudulent activities.

If there are no nuclear weapons, what possible justification would there be for IAEA inspectors poking around in Iran, trying to sniff out hidden WMD? Are all these highly qualified scientists in fact no more than hardened cynics pretending to look for non-existent weapons?

According to the conspiracy theorists, Yes!  The nuclear inspectors are just pretending that the world is full of non-existent nuclear weapons so as to justify their own existence! And also, in passing, to convince the world that America never used any nasty weapons of mass destruction at Hiroshima and Nagasaki! Good old America! Kind, compassionate America! Too nice to drop lethal atom bombs on any country! Instead, oozing with pity and humanitarian sentiment for their Japanese enemy, the Noble Warriors of Washington “firebombed” Hiroshima and Nagasaki, reducing them to rubble with tears in their eyes!

What a joke.

Before we go any further, let’s make it clear that the bombs dropped at Hiroshima and Nagasaki were different in design. Hiroshima got the first atom bomb, Nagasaki the first plutonium bomb. More people died at Hiroshima than at Nagasaki, but for various reasons I will not go into here, the bomb dropped on Nagasaki was considered more devastating — partly because it was intended by America’s Jewish-controlled administration to deliver a death blow to Christianity in Japan. This it virtually succeeded in doing, given that Nagasaki had always been Japan’s most Christian city, containing the highest concentration of Christians in all of Japan. The Nagasaki plutonium bomb was specifically aimed at St Mary’s Cathedral while Japan’s largest Roman Catholic congregation was celebrating Mass and receiving Holy Communion. The entire congregation was vaporized in a single instant at 11.02 a.m. on Thursday morning, 9 August, 1945 — much to the delight of the Jews in Washington who knew exactly where the bomb would fall.

Norman Thomas describes Nagasaki as “the greatest single atrocity of a very cruel war.”

Here are the statistics on Hiroshima and Nagasaki:

On August 6, 1945, the world dramatically entered the atomic age: without either warning or precedent, an American plane dropped a single nuclear bomb  (emphasis added) on the Japanese city of Hiroshima. The explosion utterly destroyed more than four square miles of the city center. About 90,000 people were killed immediately; another 40,000 were injured, many of whom died in protracted agony from radiation sickness. Three days later, a second atomic strike on the city of Nagasaki killed some 37,000 people and injured another 43,000. Together the two bombs eventually killed an estimated 200,000 Japanese civilians.  (See here)


Another of our star commenters, Luca K, makes an excellent point that demolishes at one stroke the absurd conspiracy theory that Hiroshima and Nagasaki received the conventional “firebombing treatment”, i.e., that no nuclear weapons were used against them at all. Luca K writes:

“For the loonies who seem to be here suggesting that the nuclear attacks against Japan were just conventional firebombings: Firebombings were carried out by huge bomber fleets, normally hundreds of aircraft. No such large bomber fleets were involved in the attacks against Hiroshima and Nagasaki.”

People who advance these absurd conspiracy theories fall into two groups: deliberate disinfo agents and the Useful Idiots who promote their lies without being aware they are muddying the waters by spreading deliberate disinformation. These kooks remain impervious to both facts and logic. Thus they appear to be entirely ignorant of the historical fact (to quote Luca K) that “firebombings were carried out by huge bomber fleets, normally hundreds of aircraft. No such large bomber fleets were involved in the attacks against Hiroshima and Nagasaki.”

Let’s consider Luca K’s important point.

The crucial difference between cities devastated by firebombing and cities like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which were devastated by atom bombs, is that hundreds of planes in constant relays over several days are necessary for the firebombing of cities, whereas ONE PLANE CARRYING ONE BOMB was sufficient for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Here are some FACTS on firebombed cities:

On March 9-10, 1945, a wave of 300 American bombers struck Tokyo, killing 100,000 people. 1700 tons of bombs were necessary to accomplish this devastation. On May 23, 1945, “520 giant B-29 ‘Superfortress’  American bombers unleashed 4,500 tons of incendiary bombs n the heart of the already battered Japanese capital.” Two days later, on May 25, “a second strike of 502 ‘Superfortress’ planes roared low over Tokyo, raining down 4,000 tons of explosives.” (See here)

If Hiroshima and Nagasaki had been given the identical firebombing treatment, as the ignorant conspiracy theorists assert, they too would have required hundreds of giant planes dropping thousands of tons of explosives over several days.

We know for a fact—for the Japanese victims were themselves eyewitnesses to each atomic attack—that only ONE plane dropping ONE bomb was sufficient to accomplish the devastation at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The bomb dropped on Nagasaki, for example, weighed 10,000 pounds. Note that: pounds, not tons.

For firebombing Tokyo, tons of bombs were necessary over several days. At Nagasaki, one much lighter bomb, weighed in pounds not tons, did the trick in nine seconds.

Like Tokyo and other Japanese cities, many German cities were subjected to firebombing. In all cases, hundreds of planes carrying thousands of tons of explosives were necessary over a period of several days in order to accomplish the devastation. Not one of these cities was reduced to ruins within a few seconds, as in the case of Hiroshima and Nagasaki,

Nor did any of these other firebombed cities report “the trans-generational malignancies and immune deficiencies caused by the deadly plutonium and other radioactive isotopes produced by the bomb.”

The case is closed.

The conspiracy theorists and their Useful Idiots in spreading disinformation are welcome to make their views known here. Experience has taught us that such individuals are more to be pitied than despised. This is because, once these loonies have made up their minds to adopt a new conspiracy theory, they will remain resolutely impervious to all the facts and to every semblance of common sense and logic.

Let our esteemed commenter ‘Felix’, writing from Thailand, have the last word:

“I believe this no nuke theory is COINTELPRO. It is deliberately designed to discredit the alternate media and other valid dissident viewpoints. It’s the same as the theory that the Queen and other leaders are actually alien lizards set to rule over us.”

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Lasha Darkmoon

Dr Lasha Darkmoon (b.1978) is an Anglo-American ex-academic with higher degrees in Classics whose political articles and poems have been translated into several languages. Most of her political essays can be found at The Occidental Observer and The TruthSeeker. Her own website,, is now within the top 1 percent of websites in the world according to the Alexa ranking system.

239 thoughts on “The “No Nuclear Bombs” Conspiracy theory

      1. Nice try…the only way to properly deal with this issue is a proper debate – NOT “a few choice words” from some self-righteous idiot whose “classical education” enables them to arrogantly dismiss these claims – and then claim them as a “Jew conspiracy”…unbelievable. I’m not completely convinced….but this very strange non-academic approach to this issue from someone who claims educational training as a badge of honor would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic…

      2. @ stevieb

        “a few choice words” from some self-righteous idiot whose “classical education” enables them to arrogantly dismiss these claims – and then claim them as a “Jew conspiracy”…unbelievable. I’m not completely convinced….but this very strange non-academic approach to this issue from someone who claims educational training as a badge of honor would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic…

        A word of advice in your ear, you foul-mouthed smart-ass. Ad hominem attacks on people who don’t subscribe to every conceivable nutjob conspiracy theory to which YOU happen to subscribe in no way tells me that this site is an evil, disinfo website (as you imply) and that YOU have a monopoly on the truth!

        FYI, none of these “conspiracy theories” which people here have been discussing quite freely — both FOR and AGAINST — would have the slightest chance of being aired on the Occidental Observer. All comments about the moon landings, for example, whether for or against, would be deleted at once by the monitor(s) at the Occidental Observer as simply not worth reading — all the more so as all such comments would be totally “OFF-TOPIC”!!!

        On this site, on the other hand, all such comments are allowed — even though off-topic. That is the difference.

        So tell me, smart-ass, why don’t you try posting a comment on the Occidental Observer whining about their “censorship” and asking why they don’t let you post any comments there on your favorite conspiracy theories?

      3. Don’t mind “stevieb”. He was booted off xymphora several years ago for his disruptive behavior. He’s an asshole.

    1. @ LD, Felix, Lobro, Luca K, Ungenius, Michael Rivero, Franklin Ryckaert et al.

      Re: “The Nagasaki plutonium bomb was specifically aimed at St Mary’s Cathedral while Japan’s largest Roman Catholic congregation was celebrating Mass and receiving Holy Communion. The entire congregation was vaporized in a single instant at 11.02 a.m. on Thursday morning, 9 August, 1945 — much to the delight of the Jews in Washington who knew exactly where the bomb would fall.”

      Below is a link to a photo of the aforementioned cathedral in Nagasaki. Could you please explain why the entire cathedral was not also “vaporized” along with those poor souls receiving Holy Communion? Note the fallen tree in the foreground of the photograph. Why wasn’t the tree vaporized? Supposedly people inside and protected by a concrete and brick building were vaporized but unprotected trees outside the building were not vaporized? How do you explain that?

      As for Hiroshima, below is a link to a photograph of the Genbaku Dome just after the bombing. Again, could you please explain why this building is still standing despite being at “ground zero” of the blast? Apparently, the atomic bomb that you insist was dropped on Hiroshima wasn’t even powerful enough to shake down the numerous trees planted around the perimeter of the Genbaku Dome, as evidenced by the photograph.

      I am neither a disinfo-agent nor an useful idiot of the jews, are any of you?


      I earlier coined the phrase “The Culture of Cuckolds” when I first commented on Goodrich’s article a few days ago. “Cuckservatives” is also a great new meme that is getting a lot of attention at present. However, I prefer cuckold, as it is easily understood and has a wider application beyond being sexually deceived and cheated. We goys, men and women alike, have all been deceived and cheated all our lives by the jews in every way imaginable. Isn’t it about high time you stop believing in their lies? Isn’t it about high time you stop being stupid cuckolds?

      Respectfully submitted,

      1. @ JFC

        An excellent high-quality comment which deserves an answer. In fact, your comment is the best comment so far coming from what I would call the “Opposition”, i.e. those who maintain that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were hoaxes and that no atomic bombs were dropped upon them. Unfortunately, to believe what you state to be the truth — that no nuclear weapons have ever existed at any time — would seem to imply a giant conspiracy in which millions have knowingly partaken for the last 70 years. It is almost as if you were saying that the world is really FLAT and at the center of the universe, with the sun and all the stars revolving round it, and that the whole of modern science from Copernicus and Galileo onward is a gigantic conspiracy theory in which thousands of the top scientists have cooperated!

        How would you answer this commonsensical comment from Franklin Ryckaert?

        Submitted on 2015/08/18 at 6:05 pm | In reply to Luca K.

        Well, I have no education in physics (let alone nuclear physics) at all. So the only thing I can do is to use my common sense. Why for example would Pakistan pretend to have developed a nuclear bomb in response to India’s nuclear bomb if it would know that it was all a hoax? It could simply laugh it off. At least one nation could spill the beans, but that didn’t happen.

        Was Vanunu lying?

        Are the nuclear inspectors seeking evidence of nukes in Iran all engaged in a gigantic fraud?

        If the three most powerful countries in the world, the US, Russia and China are aware that no nukes exist and that everyone is bluffing, why haven’t they attacked each other since 1945 in the full knowledge that it is safe to do so, i.e. that the doctrine of MAD (mutually assured destruction) is null and void?

        Indeed, if the nine nuclear nations — the US, Russia, China, Britain, France, Israel, India, Pakistan, and North Korea — are all lying through their back teeth that they have nukes when they don’t — what is to stop ALL the other nations of the world jumping on the Hoaxers’ bandwagon and shouting, “We ALL have nukes, so don’t you dare attack us!”

        The difficulty in accepting your thesis that no nukes exist is that it violates all the cannons of common sense and plausibility: it would mean that MILLIONS are involved in a gigantic hoax they all KNOW is a hoax. This is logically impossible. For if everyone is aware that everyone else is bluffing, the Big Bluff cancels itself out like a puff of smoke.

      2. To : Justice For Chinese,

        How do you explain THE FACT the World Trade Center in NYC was TOTALLY PULVERIZED INTO DUST on 911?

        How do explain THE FACT there’re VERY HIGH LEVELS of Nuclear Isotopes emanating from GROUND ZERO New York City ?

        Please explain the process by which a jew-face such as yourself, you fuckin’ hebe, gets an online job pretending to be a fuckin’ chink every day. Who is paying you, sheenie boy, to spend your days online pretending to be a fuckin’ chink? And to exactly what purpose does your boss want you, hebe face, to pretend to be a fuckin’ chink? And why exactly did your boss choose you, hymie face, to pretend to be a fuckin’ chink? I ask “why you” because you’re such a lousy actor, Pat. You can’t act to save your life, asshole. Even your character Gilbert is hardly believable, shitface, jackass, jew-face fucktard. Go speak Italian to Ryckaert and make yourself useful for a change, “Luca”.

      3. I can’t solve some of these riddles either, JFC but then, if we accept the wikipedia photographs as submitted, eg, the trees still standing in the vicinity of the blast, then by the rules of fair play, the same token credit must be extended to the picture of woman’s back showing burn patches where her dress fabric had darker color.

        This likewise is not indicative of regular flame.

        So, what happened?

        I am not a physicist and leave the field to those more knowledgeable and will join the spectators gallery until the issues are settled to my satisfaction.

        Still, on the sum total of evidence and common sense, I’d say that as hoaxes go, the nuke-a-hoax is a tougher one to pull off than “no-nukes-a-hoax”, thus if I had to bet, my money would be on the story that is harder to concoct and support if fake.

        as far as I know, an atomic explosion has two main immediately destructive components:
        the blast itself and the superheated fireball expanding radially from the epicenter (and due to spherical expansion, its power drops off with the cube root of distance traveled), and
        powerful blast wall of high energy radiation such as gamma rays and streams of subatomic particles such as neutrons.
        There are secondary effects of longer lasting radioisotope decay to be felt in days and years after.

        Now, as for trees, if they weren’t too close to the center, they may have remained structurally intact.
        Trees are very tough and many are designed to survive forest fires and get on in the aftermath.
        There are olive trees in North Africa estimated at over 10,000 years old that bear scorch marks of cavemen trying to burn them down – unsuccessfully.
        (This is why Jews exult in bulldozing them down in Palestine, because they are a symbol of longevity, survival and resistance to the native people).

        I once heard a structural engineer and architect (double qualification) tell me about some hotel fire in Kansas City I think, where overhead steel trusses sagged and broke, bringing the ceiling down on the people in the lobby.
        He said that many designers prefer wood beams because even though they burn on the outside, they retain structural rigidity longer than steel.

        I know that this is not a proof, just a point to consider.

        So, if I don’t know, I say that I don’t know but can still make a semi-educated guess.
        What is worse, ignorance or refusing to admit it?

      4. @ lobro

        Apart from this, there are other more practical considerations that make the “No Nuclear Bombs” theory untenable. Luca K has already mentioned this. The argument is very simple and easy to follow:

        1. FACT, If Hiroshima and Nagasaki were NOT hit by atomic bombs, the only other alternative is that they were FIREBOMBED in the conventional way as Tokyo was…and several other Japanese and German cities. This is admitted even by the “No Nuclear Bombs” advocates.

        2. FACT: If FIREBOMBING is used, this involves HUNDREDS of planes flying in relays over MANY days, dropping thousands of tons of explosives.

        3. FACT: It is universally admitted that only ONE plane was involved, dropping only ONE bomb, over Hiroshima. Ditto for Nagasaki. Ergo, it is impossible that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were firebombed, because that would have needed hundreds of planes over several days.

        4. FACT: Hundreds of planes over several days were NOT seen or photographed over Hiroshima or Nagasaki. So there is NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE of firebombing.

        CONCLUSION: Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuked — because only ONE plane was involved in each case.


        I cannot answer your questions because of my lack of expertise in this matter. But I see in the margin to the right of the two pages you linked to two photographs entitled :

        “Fat Man” Atomic Bomb Explodes Over Nagasaki.

        Mushroom Cloud Over Nagasaki.

        Please explain the mushroom cloud if there was no nuclear explosion.

      6. @ Lasha Darkmoon

        “This is logically impossible. For if everyone is aware that everyone else is bluffing, the Big Bluff cancels itself out like a puff of smoke.”

        Indeed, if my enemy would try to intimidate me by bluffing, saying that he possesses a terrible weapon and if I knew that it was a hoax, I would simply expose his hoax and not engage in similar bluffing which my enemy would also know is a hoax. That would be MAR (Mutually Assured Ridiculesness).
        And yet the “no-nukes” conspiracy theorists want us to believe that half the world is engaged in such a farce.

      7. LD –

        “1. FACT, If Hiroshima and Nagasaki were NOT hit by atomic bombs, the only other alternative is that they were FIREBOMBED in the conventional way as Tokyo was…and several other Japanese and German cities. This is admitted even by the “No Nuclear Bombs” advocates.”

        To be totally objective.. your “the only other alternative” should be followed by… “which I have considered..”

        The statement would become.. “… the only other alternative – which I have considered – is that they were FIREBOMBED in the conventional way as Tokyo was…”

        I say… that IF a feat as complicated and as inventive as a mobile nuke weapon can be accepted… then… numerous, even hundreds, of firebombs could have been planted throughout both cities and detonated simultaneously. NO planes needed.

        It is really tough when the Pharisees don’t let us in on the plans… and we don’t know what we don’t know.. anywhere…. any time.

        The best we have are guesses.

      8. @ Pat

        “I say… that IF a feat as complicated and as inventive as a mobile nuke weapon can be accepted… then… numerous, even hundreds, of firebombs could have been planted throughout both cities and detonated simultaneously. NO planes needed.”

        So now we find out, because of Pat we now find out, the Japs let U.S. servicemen during WW2 walk around, drive around, travel around, Hiroshima and Nagasaki so the American GI’s could plant hundreds of fire bombs all over Hiroshima and Nagasaki!

        The Japs allowed the American military GI JOEs to do this because the Japanese kamikaze pilots serving in the Pacific were going to their deaths trying to protect their island of Japan and the Japs allowed American GI JOEs to travel all around Hiroshima and Nagasaki so the Americans could plant Fire Bombs all over the two Japanese cities(!!!!!!!!!!!) while up north in Japan the Americans were bombing the sh*t out of Tokyo.

        Sure Pat, whatever you say, lol.

      9. JFC,
        There is quite a reasonable explanation for that. The Hiroshima bomb was detonated at an altitude of 500 metres above ground zero, the immediate fireball hotter than the sun but about 250 metres in diameter thus the force would have the effect of holding the walls in place because it would be directed straight down, not out. Thereby being inside the cone of the shockwave. There was a legend that during WW2 that the Waffen SS would “train” by balancing stick grenades on their helmets, stand to attention and detonating them. Because they were “inside” the cone of the shock wave they would come to no harm. There were also documented cases in WW2 of people surviving bombs exploding directly over them. Personally, I wouldn’t try it as even without shrapnel and if you are close enough to a bomb the shockwave would collapse your chest. At Alamogordo, the first test was detonated at ground level, thus one would see the vitrification of the earth. At Tunguska in 1908 the explosion was estimated to be of a magnitude of 15 megatons, but no crater as it detonated at altitude.
        Explosions are fascinating things to study. A simple amatol “pineapple” grenade’s shockwave and shrapnel will normally kill within a radius of 10 metres, but there have been cases where the base plate of the grenade has taken someone’s head off at 60 or 70 metres. Often, when one throws them, you will hear the base plate whining as it goes over your head. Another interesting area of explosives is the shaped charge, in the RPG the speed is 12,000 metres per second. A properly shaped charge with plastique (C4) can propel a projectile at 20,000 metres per second. I have heard that the Russians developed a system of a series of shaped charges which can propel an object at 74,000 mps. I must tell you that my info on explosives is 30 years out of date and no doubt “science” has developed far more sophisticated and lethal ways of blowing people up.

      10. lash, yes to all that stuff you mentioned.

        in my answer to justice for china, i was dealing with something else.

        namely, the truth does not tolerate clear contradiction, no matter how small.

        so, if j4c can establish that given all that we know about atomic blasts of that magnitude and at given distance, no tree can possibly withstand it, yet there happens to be exactly such trees, then my theory is no good – it must be modified or scrapped.
        it doesn’t establish HIS theory.

        because i had to wonder about those trees in the picture, i had to work out a plausible scenario, eg, fake trees made of wire or something.

        see, that’s how i work with all these to-and-fro arguments.

        if jew can come up with a plausible explanation for all the irregularities and glaring inconsistencies in the alleged holocaust, then i cannot discard it merely because i am no fan of jews.
        not that there is a slightest danger of that, those inconsistencies are as clear proof as anything i can imagine – like being there and seeing the lie with my own eyes.

        in short, we are dealing with two separate issues:
        1. that your debating opponent’s thesis (firebombing) is faulty, and
        2. that your own thesis (nukes) is correct

        just because his is wrong (for the sake of argument) doesn’t mean that yours is right, eg, some very potent thermobaric weapon that went off at a singular point above ground, not necessarily a nuke but neither a blanket firebombing campaign.

        j4c’s “trees argument” was meant to trip up the “nuke argument” and i responded to that as well as i could.

      11. on the Bluff vs. Bluff involving simultaneously bluffing parties like america, russia, china, india, pakistan, israel where each protagonist CANNOT be buddies with every other, the notion is absurd.

        like Mexican Standoff with rubber bands.

        Note too that the sole reason Saddam and Gaddafi lost their power, countries and lives is that they did NOT have nuclear weapons, despite the lying Jew twats and shabbos hysterical claims to the contrary.
        It is also the sole reason India hasn’t invaded Pakistan and for all the barking, no one is about to attack N Korea.

        Monsanto crop dusters spraying against common sense, it seems …

      12. Except at the end, Pat.
        (here comes Krishna/(fill in the blank))
        In whichever way you and I and everyone else do wish.

        Pat, your mind and finger(s) are still working well.
        Be all you can be, eh? (;>)

      13. Felix, my father told me about tossing the potato mashers back at the Waffen SS. More than once they’d toss them back and forth two or three times! Yeah, ouch..

      14. Hey TROJ –

        “…the Japs allowed American GI JOEs to travel all around Hiroshima and Nagasaki so the Americans could plant Fire Bombs all over the two Japanese cities(!!!!!!!!!!!)”

        That is a funny scenario… but… NO cigar. 🙂

        Almost as funny as those same type of invisible contractors who trained for years to sneak by all those office workers at the WTC – unnoticed – with hundreds of explosives and place them all throughout the buildings… which would have been way more suspicious.

      15. @ Pat

        For a change, why don’t you stop shooting off your mouth and actually read the articles/websites I link to in my other posts. For example, if you had read the article at “911thology” I linked to, instead of shooting off your big mouth, you would know how the nukes were planted into the World Trade Center. It didn’t involve contractors walking around the WTC offices. If you had read the article at 911thology I linked to, you wouldn’t be making your absurd claim as you do, an absurd claim you imply I made, but I never made the claim contractors walked around the WTC offices planting nukes. Read the article I link to, Pat, instead of making up absurd claims and then trying so desperately to make it look as if I’m the one who made the absurd claim. Why don’t you read the info I left here instead of shooting your mouth off and acting like a clown? Here is the link once again, Pat :

        My other links I’m sure you didn’t read either, Pat. This time, read ’em instead of shooting your mouth off like a clown in a circus making a fool out of himself :

      16. Unless the WTC ‘work’ was accomplished under the guise of and obviously often simultaneously with refitting, updating, code compliance, of entire systems like security and those pesky Elevators. Then plain sight is A-OK, day after day after month until plain sight becomes just so much more white noise to tune out. Faamiliar and comforting even.
        Did they whistle as they worked?

      17. TROJ –

        Shoot my mouth off..??

        Nope..!! Still there… just above my chin…!!
        ……Just for you = 🙂 🙂 🙂

      18. @ Pat

        I say… that IF a feat as complicated and as inventive as a mobile nuke weapon can be accepted…then… numerous, even hundreds, of firebombs could have been planted throughout both cities and detonated simultaneously. NO planes needed.

        The best we have are guesses.

        Nope, Patsy, the best YOU have is guesses! Guessing is YOUR speciality! 🙂

        As for your brilliant suggestion that hundreds of firebombs in mobile units “COULD” have been planted in street bins and under benches and in baby’s prams and “detonated simultaneously”, have you got any EVIDENCE for this brilliant “GUESS” of yours? Any links? Any newspaper reports? Any photos? Any eyewitness account of even ONE such firebomb going off?

        No, I thought not! Just a guess by the world judo champ and top nuclear scientist with special family ties to Einstein and Oppenheimer . . . who got all his info from Eustace Mullins on his sundown porch! 🙂

        Hey, what were the Japanese cops doing letting all these HUNDREDS of American agents plant their mobile nukes in trashcans and under park benches?!? 🙂

        Oh, yeah, let me “guess”…the American agents were disguised as Jap street cleaners, right? They put on these stocking masks, right? Or maybe they were made up by the Hollywood makeup department so as to have high cheek Jap bones and slanty Jap eyes so no one would notice them planting their sneaky firebombs under park benches or in Jap baby prams?

        Hmmm….sounds plausible, I must say! 🙂

        At a given sign, hey presto! all the mobile nukes go off and the age of the Atomic bomb begins! And for 70 years the hoax has gone on, with Pat in his armchair figgering it all out and trolling out his cool awesome views on darkmoon in 2015! Grrrrr8! 🙂

        If that’s the best you can do, Pat, I wouldn’t advise you to write Tom Clancy novels!

        Tra-la-la, troll doll! 🙂

        Madame Butterfly,
        Long-term Radiation Sickness Unit,

      19. @ Madame Butterfly

        It was an—wait for it—INSIDE JOB. No yanks in disguise needed in Hiroshima or Nagasaki, japs loyal to their crypto-jew Emperor Hirohito were a plenty.

        FYI, the japs worshiped their Emperor Hirohito like a living GOD. The war was fought in his name. Jap soldiers pledged their loyalty and allegiance to the Emperor not Japan.

        On August 15, 1945 the jap GOD spoke to his people and this is what he said at the 1:44 minute mark of the following video of his Surrender Speech:

        “Moreover, the enemy has begun to employ a new and most cruel bomb, the power of which to do damage is, indeed, incalculable, taking the toll of many innocent lives. Should we continue to fight, not only would it result in an ultimate collapse and obliteration of the Japanese nation, but it would lead to the total extinction of human civilization.”

        For a jap to contradict the story that there were no atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki is to commit the ultimate sin not only against his country but against his GOD!

        Hence, to this day, you will never ever find a jap who will tell you a story that will contradict the official version of events as stated by their GOD.

        If you do not understand this, then you do not understand the Japanese; in which case, you should change your handle, cause you ain’t no Madame Butterfly…more like an “Madame TRO Joe.” (smiley face)

      20. @ JFC

        I accept everything you say except your conclusion. I am well aware that the Japanese worshipped their Emperor as a living God. He gave instructions to his top ministers, as you obviously know, that the game was up for Japan and that they should make peace with America at any price.

        If the emperor Hirohito told his people that surrender was necessary because the Americans had the power to destroy Japan with an atom bomb, and if his people believed him, what is wrong with that? Why do you have to suggest that he was lying to his people and they believed him only because he was a “Living God” who could not lie?

        It is surely more reasonable to conclude that they believed the Emperor was telling the truth because they had witnessed with their own eyes the mass destruction caused by two atom bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki — IN A FEW SECONDS.

        They had NOT witnessed hundreds of planes dropping tons of bombs day after day, which would have been the case if Hiroshima and Nagasaki had ben firebombed. Nor is there a single eye eyewitness account of hundreds of little bombs going off simultaneously in garbage bins and under park benches, as Pat fancifully imagines WITHOUT THE SLIGHTEST EVIDENCE. These are worthless “guesses”, which he seems to be very good at.

        Pat’s comment in response to me, as Sardonicus points out correctly, is hardly worth answering. Even a sneering undergraduate having a temper tantrum could have done better. Pat’s smiley faces do not hide his ugly scowl. Sard is right about that..

        Anyway, thanks for engaging in polite dialogue with me. At least you know how to behave like a gentleman.

      21. Dearest Lasha,

        They live! They survived the [not so mighty] atomic bomb!

        Do you believe in miracles? I have great news for you. The congregation of St Mary’s Cathedral in Nagasaki did not vaporize, as you claimed.

        Here is the proof. At the 10:30 mark of the following video, you can see and hear the sweet angels singing “Silent Night” for Christmas Mass 1945!

        Nice try, Lasha. More and more jap survivors of the atomic bombs keep showing up even 70 years after the ‘dropping’… as in merde, that’s shit in French for American readers … kinda like the kike survivors who actually outnumber the Jew voodoo number of 6,000,000 victims of the Jewropean Holohoax TM.

        Juke me once, shame on you; juke me twice, shame on me. Never, never again! (Smiley face and wink)

      22. @ Justice For Chinese

        Well, dear JFC, you have your sources: the Jewish-owned outlet YouTube. I prefer to rely on a non-Jewish source, a Christian physician reporting from Nagasaki. St Mary’s Cathedral may well be there, still standing right now, but the people who were in it at the time of the explosion have all gone to their death.

        Here is what I learn from my trusted source. Call him a liar if it makes you feel any better. I am not in the least concerned that you have an opposite viewpoint. Feel free to believe what you want.

        The bomb dropped on Nagasaki weighed 10,000 pounds and exploded 500 meters above St Mary’s Cathedral in the Urakami district of Nagasaki. This occurred at exactly 11.02 a.m while Japanese Roman Catholics were celebrating Holy Mass. It wiped out the entire Christian congregation. These were “boiled, evaporated, carbonized or otherwise disappeared in a scorching, radioactive fireball that exploded 500 meters above the cathedral.”

        “Most Nagasaki Christians did not survive the blast,” we are told by the same narrator, Dr Gary G. Kohls, a retired physician and non-violent political activist. “Six thousand of them died instantly, including all who were at confession [in St Mary’s Cathedral]. Of the 12,000 church members, 8,500 of them eventually died as a result of the bomb. Many of the others were seriously sickened.

        “Three orders of nuns and a Christian girl’s school disappeared into black smoke or became chunks of charcoal. Tens of thousands of other innocent non-combatants also died instantly and many more were mortally or incurably wounded.

        “Some of the victims’ progeny are still suffering from the trans-generational malignancies and immune deficiencies caused by the deadly plutonium and other radioactive isotopes produced by the bomb.”

      23. @ Lasha

        Don’t bother. These people are not interested in listening to you. Pat and JFC have already addressed you with disrespect and incivility. They lack good manners and are bullies and you are their punching bag. It is because you are a woman among angry and aggressive men and there is not a single man out there who is willing to defend you and your honor from these intellectual thugs who get such pleasure in dissing you.

        Let me know how much longer you wish me to remain monitor of this website with its gang of sadists and bullies doing their best to undermine your authority and make you look small. (So that THEY might look bigger in their own eyes). Would any other website put up with these shit artists? Not one! We alone put up with these undisciplined squads of opinionated bastards, lacking in all civility and baying for your blood like slavering hounds.


        My advice to you, dear Lasha: close down this website, give up writing about Jews, devote your life to poetry and philosophy. You are wasting your life on these rude and unmannerly people. And I am wasting my time here as monitor.

      24. @ Lasha

        Here you are, dear Lasha. A post that has just come in for you from our star commenter TheRealOriginalJoe. This will show you what your commentariat really think of you. I have spared you from these realities before. I have sheltered you. Read this. This is how some of your commenters actually view you. Here is a typical American, giving you a rare glimpse into the American mind. Read and enjoy your humiliation, dear Lasha:


        Well at least there’s one thing we don’t have to guess about, there’s at least one thing we all can be sure about : Lasha’s pussy is real hot and moist for Pat. Lasha’s Sacred BLUE moozlum Kabul Xanadu panties are way dripping moist for Pat, Our New Big Man On Campus [ now that “our” Wizard of OZ Max Bilney is gone from us ].

        I guess Pat is real happy that Maxie is gone, ’cause that makes Pat The Big Man around here now, lol.

        Lasha is in her shower stall , Pat, waiting for you, Big Man!! She’s got her One Eye of Whorus on you, Pat, and only on you Big Man!!! You finally found your Ancient Egyptian Empress Babe!!! More beautiful than Cleopatra and Nefertiti put together, judging by like that stunningly gorgeous Hot Sexy fashion-forward Xanadu BLUE Burqa on Lasha’s head!

      25. @ Lasha

        Here you are, Lasha. Another post to show you the ugly face of reality. This is what your posters think of you.

        I’ve deleted the worst comments by this typical American dead-ender The two posts by the RealOriginalJoe that I have just posted show you America at its finest.



        “Venus, If You Will, Send Me A Xanadu Gurl To Thrill” ;

        she wore BLUE panties,
        from Xanadu,
        that glowed in the dark,
        almost as if the panties were radioactive,
        like something outta,
        a 1950s Jap science-fiction horror movie,
        the Xanadu panties glowed in the dark,
        so Big Man on Campus,
        in the dark dark black moonless Darkmoon night,
        could zero in on what he always dreamed of,
        cause the panties glowed in the dark,
        except Pat’s hydra-head,
        Ju Juice 4 gooks & chinks,
        Said : ,
        ” NO, You can’t have her!”,
        “she’s from Xanadu,
        and us chinks,
        don’t like anything from Tibet,
        us chinks don’t du Xanadu,
        NO, NOT even Xanadu pussy”,
        so Pat was left bereft,
        of his long longed-for,
        Xanadu Shangri-La paradise Pussy,
        the price one pays,
        for being a hydra-headed,
        two face.

    2. Bob In DC, you along with everyone else that is brainwashed by not just this crackpot theory but all those similar to it are examples of how Evolution has failed. Jeeze! some groups of people should just be put inside of space shuttles and flown directly into the Sun because sending your kind to Concentration Camps would just be a waste of taxPayer’s money.

  1. The people peddling the “no nukes” are impervious to facts and logic for the same reason as those who peddle the “no plane at the Pentagon” or “Apollo Moon Landings were faked” nonsense; they are paid propagandists pouring total junk onto the net to make the internet community look like a bunch of kooks in the hope that people will not pay attention when we tell them Saddam did not have nuclear weapons, that the ponzi-scheme central banking economy must self destruct, that TWA 800 was accidentally shot down by the US Navy, that Vincent Foster was murdered, etc.

    1. Well said, Michael! We have quite a few of these kooks posting on our website. Not all of them are malignant spreaders of lies. Many of them are Useful Idiots who fervently believe in the garbage they read on the internet. As I said in my article, they are more to be pitied than hated or despised. Their only sin is gullibility.

      1. Pat must be feeling real BLUE now, now after he lost the “nukes don’t exist” versus “Nukes Do Exist” debate. He lost real bad, and I imagine losing a debate is something that could make the loser feel real BLUE.

        The World of Country-Western has got their Patsy Cline and baby, she’s singing the blues, and Darkmoon’s got their Patsy Decline , and let me tell ‘ya, he’s singing the blues too, Big-Time.

    2. Um, Mr. Rivero, on Aug. 2, 2014 you said, “Hitler thoroughly believed that genocide of Jews, Gypsies, and homosexuals was absolutely the right and moral thing to do.”

      1. Did Rivero provide sources for that comment?

        He has also said that Hitler wanted to conquer the world, as I no longer listen to his show I have no idea when he last said this but a few years ago it was at least once a month.

        AFAIK the meme that Hitler wanted to conquer the world is not true, so unless he retracts or quotes a source, why is he taken as someone who is on the side of truth? Go to Nuke lies Michael and refute the info there or accept Lobro,s position – maybe they do or maybew they do not. Who cares.

        BTW Michaeal will not accept callers to his show who want to debate the moon landing (or chemtrails, or no plane at the pentagon). He just wants his listensers to believe HIM when he asserts these views are lunatic. He may be correct of course but no debate allowed smacks of something fishy to me.

    3. It may not be right to mix the “no plane at the Pentagon on 9/11” idea with “no Apollo moon landing”. Some “conspiracy” theories are both sensible-sounding and legitimate, but some are not. Not only sensible-sounding, but quite possible.

      1. @ Wyandotte

        I think you make an excellent point. Some so-called “conspiracy theories” are absolutely valid, particularly the Holocaust and 9/11. Other conspiracy theories are deliberately invented to sound totally absurd in order to bring ALL conspiracy theories into disrepute.

        Personally, I am not at all hostile to one particularly bizarre conspiracy theory: the Moon Landing one. I don’t embrace the Moon Landing conspiracy theory myself, but I don’t object to other people embracing it. This is because it strikes me as being quite possible.

        After all, why not? Almost 50 years have gone by, so how come there hasn’t been a second landing? How come no other nation has put a man on the moon in the meantime? And how come they haven’t built bases on the moon, like at the South Pole?

    4. Don’t flatter yourselves. The no-nukes story isn’t about you. The government wants people to believe it.
      Probably so the government can use nuclear weapons more freely.

      MODERN nuclear weapons are very different from the ones built more than 50 years ago, and most people don’t know that. Modern bombs have minimal uranium, with deuterium and tritium chemically bonded to the uranium. There is less visible flash. There is much less fallout.

    5. Japan was nuked, no doubt about it. What is of further interest is emerging suppressed history of both the German and the Japanese nuclear programs; suggested reading includes: “Japan’s Secret War” by Robert K. Wilcox (according to Japanese and Korean sources, Japan actually detonated a very low yield weapon in Korea before the war ended). Must reading: “Hirschfeld”, the story of a U-boat NCO as told to Geoffrey Brooks; “Hitler’s Nuclear Weapons” by Geoffrey Brooks, and “Critical Mass” by Carter Plymton Hydrick. The work of Dr. Joseph Farrell (“Reich of the Black Sun”) and Henry Stevens is also quite interesting. As for the Moon landings, you really have to examine Jack White’s thorough examination of official NASA photos (some withdrawn, some withdrawn and re-done after exposure). The conclusion that there was no Moon landing is not correct in my opinion; the technology used was probably of a higher order than the official story – this was really more of a military enterprise than a ‘noble civilian’ effort. The late Neil Armstrong is said to have told an associate and overheard by MI-6 agent Pamela H. at a very restricted conference in Italy that the real landings were a quick scoop up and go kind of an affair… see Timothy Good’s latest book for details. Anyone who thinks military technical achievement ended with the ‘Blackbird’, B-2, or F-117A (which according to “Janes” first flew in 1977) really ought to catch up with things, it partly explains why there is a prevailing arrogance of ‘we can get away with whatever we want’ attitude in the US, UK, Canada, Australia, and France – Israel was always a pariah. By the way, major thanks to Mike Rivero, Jeff Rense, and Lasha Darkmoon for their heroic and outstanding efforts. All deserve our respect and support.

      1. Well, Geoffrey Brooks sounds a very Jewish name, and for one, Hitler never wanted to take over the world as Brook claims in his book, nor did he wish to inflict terror on the rest of the world with terror weapons as this most likely Jewish person Brooks insanely asserts.

        Hitler may have used heavy water in Norway, as they still do today in Norway, but not for filthy radioactive polluting nuclear weapons development, as the heavy water plants in Norway today are just used to generate energy, and not atomic weapons, and Hitler’s Germany needed new power sources due to the oil embargo against Germany.

        Of course, Jewish researchers will be unearthing ‘Nazi’ atomic weapons research labs in hollowed out mountains as fast as they can fake them by taking some ‘radioactive readings’ that can be produced any way they wish, especially by adding a bit of suitable radioactive trace material when they do their ‘research’.

        Or maybe the above report in the Jewish dominated newspaper The Daily Mail really was a genuine report of a genuine WWII German weapons research base, but it would not have been one developing Jewish style world polluting radioactive atomic weapons.

        Personal bodyguard of Hitler, Otto Skorzeny, stated that Hitler completely forbade any of his scientists from ever working on any atomic weapons, as he regarded them as the Jewish hell weapon. The radioactive atom bomb, radioactive nuclear bomb, and radioactive neutron bomb were all conceived of by Jewish scientists alone, and developed to fully functioning world-endangering radioactive weapons by Jewish ‘scientists’, due to their very peculiar mindset and very peculiar objectives, and no doubt, such theories that no nuclear weapons exist serve especially to deny the very lethal reality of the Israeli Samson Option. and one Jewish fanatic deleted me and banned me from his site for making that very comment.

        Jewish ‘scientist’ Leo Szilard invented the first atom bomb in 1933, patenting his finalized plans in London in 1934, which no doubt gave the Jews confidence to declare their intent to have war waged on their behalf against Germany by their goyim mind-controlled slave robots.

        Though another Jew scientist invented the first nuclear bomb, Leo Szilard invented the cobalt nuclear bomb in 1950, which he stated would be capable of killing all life on Earth. This was the obvious thanks that the people of the world got for fighting Germany into the ground, just the constant death threat of the Samson Option, no doubt using that very weapon.

        Samuel T. Cohen of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory developed the concept of the neutron bomb in 1958.

        If everyone had backed Germany instead, there would be no radioactive atomic weapons today.

        This is what Hitler said to Colonel Skorzeny, who had rescued Mussolini from Gran Sasso:

        “When Dr. Todt visited me I read that the energy set free by such a bomb could destroy an area as large as the state of Arizona or make as big a crater as the meteor had caused in Siberia. That means that all life within such an area would be destroyed, not only humans but all life, but animals and plants would not be able to live within a radius of 40 km for hundreds of years due to radiation. That would mean an Apocalypse. No land, no group of civilized people could bear the responsibility for such a slaughter. In battle after battle human beings would destroy themselves if such a bomb were used.”

        All kinds of things can be put on paper, so I am not quite sure if ‘Allied’ evidence on what Hitler really did can ever be regarded as much more than mere fake war propaganda, and so-called testimonies allegedly gained from eavesdropping on captured German officers in Trent Park House were recently featured on British television, repeating obviously faked and already disproven supposedly eavesdropped confessions made by German Officers including on how they really did in fact make lampshades from tattooed Jewish concentration camp inmates’ skin, when such lampshades have in fact been completely disproven in court after thorough scientific analysis, as mere goat skin. Though the officer in the ‘documentary’ gave evidently very vivid accounts of the sadistic camp commandant having the best tattooed Jews to be selected from the inmates, about a hundred of them in total, and how they were specially executed so that their skin could be harvested. This being the case, then ALL such testimony allegedly gained through eavesdropping on German Officers at Trent Park can only be regarded as totally fake and maliciously constructed.

        However, the following quote may be a truthful report about research into a non radioactive bomb with the equivalent power of nuclear weapons.

        “The idea of a “Superbomb” was first patented prior to World War Two in Austria, and a modification of the idea was patented in Germany in 1943. [German patent 905.847, March 16, 1943, cited in Mayer and Mehner, “Hitler und die Bombe”] Its inventor, Dr. Karl Nowak, explained the reason for his invention as being to create a superbomb without the radioactive fallout effects that were evident from atomic and thermonuclear explosions! In other words, the Nazis were already looking past the thermonuclear age toward the creation of second and third generation weapons systems that would give the same offensive and strategic “punch” but without the side effects!

        “In theory, the bomb is workable, but was way beyond the technological capabilities of Germany, or any other power, in that time period. Basically, the idea was to create a state of matter in which, through ultra-low temperatures approaching absolute zero, matter would be super-compressed. The idea was then to detonate this material, subjecting it to sudden stress and heat, to create a sudden and massive expansion and explosion, and therewith, an enormous, H-bomb sized blast. Thus, there may have been a basis in actual German secret research for the incredible claim of the Japanese military attache in Stockholm’s 1943 report to Tokyo that the Germans were investigating the properties of super-dense matter for weaponization.”

    6. Wow Mike

      Next you’ll be telling us that Lee Harvey Oswald really WAS a lone assassin. And a fawning lasha quotes the “esteemed Felix” over his “alien lizard” comment, which shows a disregard for what is a legitimate area of research. Don’t be so quick to dismiss yet another conspiracy “theory. This one suggesting the presence of a reptilian/human hybrid imposter on the British throne.* Which, btw, would NOT make her (it) an alien, per se.

      *my theory would show:

      Elizabeth Two
      is a “pristine jew”

      1. The much slandered Hitler’s humane view regarding nuclear weapons (opposition, that is) is probably correct. He never wanted war with the UK, even official historians concede this much. Brooks and many other authors are not always correct on each and every point, but Hirschfeld was a participant. Interestingly when the US navy ship was escorting the surrendered U-234 into Portsmouth, NH the third week of May 1945, they were buzzed by an airplane and there was a fully evident concern of imminent attack on the part of the US navy crewmen. When the German naval prisoners of war asked who the potential attackers might be, their American hosts replied darkly “the British”. Evidently Churchill thought it over and the prize did stay in American hands. “Critical Mass” points out that the German work camp Auschwitz drew more electricity than the city of Berlin, allegedly to produce Buna (synthetic rubber). When questioning lifetime career experts in the Buna field, author Hydrick was informed that Buna production only requires a fraction of that amount of electricity, even for large quantities. Guess what it was being used for. The matter goes well beyond speculation on paper, however, the History Channel has aired a program that features a taped interview with an aged German civilian woman who was an eyewitness to a detonation that caused what can only be described as radiation sickness after an tremendous bright explosion (which the neighboring civilian population were not forewarned about) with some people fatally affected. The testimony of Col. Luigi Romersa, Italian Air Force attache invited to witness the test is also a matter of record. Then there is at least one report from an RAF pilot flying in the area (Baltic Sea) – all in the same time frame. Whether Brooks is jewish or not I really can’t answer, but I’d suggest that in this case the zionist atomic invention myth really stands to be shredded to pieces – you know, the much hyped letter from ‘professor’ Einstein from Princeton University warning Roosevelt about what was already quite well known in the scientific field (of course, it is never mentioned that Einstein was barred from the Manhattan Project because he was judged to be a security risk, not over the matter that he stole other people’s work while working in the patent office in Switzerland, but because of his Communist sympathies). Then there is the ‘great’ Oppenheimer- see the Venona decripts (such as we are allowed to see- jewish authors seem to be the only ones allowed to write about this episode of codebreaking) and note a most interesting report from New Mexico that landed on Stalin’s desk in 1947. Enrico Fermi, who was jewish and communist leaning like Oppenheimer was also permitted to participate, but then his work was advanced and original in this field (unlike Einstein’s) and he nearly caused an explosion in Chicago. The problem was the proximity fuses to detonate the bomb (Oppenheimer is said to have stated on May 8, 1945 that the project would take at least till December) which was solved by Dr. Hans Schlieke surrendering the third week of May 1945 on U-234 along with several solid gold containers of ‘Uranium ore’ (Hirschfeld insists there were at least 50) which are on record, (declassified) with the US navy, which lists ten ‘officially’. The reality check is that Uranium ore doesn’t require gold containers, only enriched Uranium does. Indeed, US mining tycoon Thomas Fortune Ryan had about a ton of the stuff in a Brooklyn navy yard at the time from his interests in the Belgian Congo. Since “Critical Mass” has gotten very pricey, you should at least look at the write up on Amazon, which mentions the warm reception Hydrick received for his book and lecture among the scientists at Oak Ridge lab and glowing testimony from an expert from Los Alamos; afterwards Hydrick seems to have gained a nice tenured career and probably encouraged not to pursue the matter further (this is purely my speculation). Dr. Schlieke later worked at NASA, though Wikipedia really doesn’t mention this phase of his career for obvious reasons.

    7. So Michael Rivero greatly disagrees with all the Virginia USA local residents living near the Pentagon … who said they saw a missile (maybe aided by explosives pre-set in the Pentagon)… and who said there was no plane wreckage until it was ‘delivered’ much after the attack … on the very magical Pentagon grass lawn that instantly dissolves and repels all plane wreckage, dead bodies etc!

      Magical plane-crash repelling Pentagon lawn

      1. Oh, yeah, Rivero insists a plane hit the Pentagon. He knows more than Capt. Russ Wittenburg who has said, “The airplane could not have flown at those speeds which they said it did without going into what they call a high speed stall. The airplane won’t go that fast if you start pulling those high G maneuvers at those bank angles. … To expect this alleged airplane to run these maneuvers with a total amateur at the controls is simply ludicrous…

        It’s roughly a 100 ton airplane. And an airplane that weighs 100 tons all assembled is still going to have 100 tons of disassembled trash and parts after it hits a building. There was no wreckage from a 757 at the Pentagon. … The vehicle that hit the Pentagon was not Flight 77. We think, as you may have heard before, it was a cruise missile.”

        Rivero dismisses Chemtrails and favors “The Money Junkie” theory rather than the “International Jew” theory of Henry Ford and others. Go figure.

      2. AND, Brabantian, it is a well-known fact among us that all convenience store and parking lot surveillance cameras had their filmed footage confiscated by FBI minions immediately thereafter. Thanks for pointing this out. 🙂

    8. M. Rivero

      I may have been a bit rash when replying to your post (damn dyslexia!) My apologies

      But a thousand lashes with a wet noodle upon lasha and felix still stands 🙂

    9. Michael Rivero –

      Paid propagandists?? Well, I’m still waiting on my money… Where is it coming from???!!! 🙂

      I think a lot of folks fail to consider that even scientists and inspectors overwhelmingly ‘rubber stamp’ things which become routinely expected. They have things which they, too, would rather be doing. Heads of state, in the inclusion of fear of ‘shadow government’, are more culpable – but far more aware of the consequences of blatant exposure. In overlooking THAT fact, just who is the most gullible?? Do you really believe everything you’re told because some fellows who tell it are sporting academic degrees? If a lie goes on long enough, and is accepted widely enough, it can be facilitated onward with less effort – AND, without interruption of pay. Qui bono??

    10. Wait a second Michael.
      Saddam did not have nuclear weapons, that the ponzi-scheme central banking economy must self destruct, that TWA 800 was accidentally shot down by the US Navy, that Vincent Foster was murdered, etc.

      These are events that are known lies, yet the mainstream still repeats them. So why would anything be out of the question to investigate? The moon landing was filmed in a studio. The “plane” that struck the north tower had it’s wings go through a steel building like my arms go through water when swimming laps at the pool. The Ponzi-scheme central banking scheme is self evident. I guess I hate jews because I question the holohoax. How will you belittle me when I say their is no nuclear power/weapons, nasa lies about EVERYTHING, the earth is flat and the north pole is the equator, and their are NO satellites in space. Now, the reason for these lies: The shitlord of this realm traps our souls here and feeds off our energy. This realm is completely enclosed. Humanity must not consciously know this, lest we use our imagination and ingenuity to solve the riddle. We must be made to feel like a grain of sand in the universe. Nothing important, nothing unique. No such thing as space, galaxies, or universes. Now directly about the nukes, how much money is stolen via this fraud? millions…billions…or how about trillions. The top of the food chain of each government knows these things. They are forced to worship the shitlord of this realm and take part in rituals to satiate his appetite. So, any government who figures out that there are no nukes, can extort the IAEA, by saying “We have nukes!” Do you get it? And another completely different thing Michael: The BRICKS are not trying to come up with something more humane…too many people are aware of the Ponzi-scheme central banking economy(in part, thanks to people like you)…so the BRICKS are coming up with an alternative. When you control the opposition, you make sure there is no real opposition. “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.” They will just replace one draconian system with another. Do you watch Presidential elections. Mr Hope and Change just mimicked Slick Willy who was from ….wait for it….Hope, Arkansas.

  2. About the high levels of radioactive isotopes in lower Manhattan. The isotopes are the isotopes that result from a Nuclear Blast :

    Search Terms :

    ” 911 Nuclear”

    “911 Nuclear Demolition”

    “Dimitri Khalezov + 911 Nuclear”

    “Nuclear Radiation In NYC Since 911”

    A lot more info with above Search Terms. Search Terms good for YouTube also to access a lot of videos about “911 + NUCLEAR DEMOLITION”.

  3. Michael Rivero has nailed it.

    There was a high zusan government official, cannot remember his name now nor if under Obama or Bush, who actually stated that the government should infiltrate organizations that were debunking government propaganda, for ex. re 9-11, with disinfo agents in order to hurt their credibility.
    Look at Veterans Today; although there are good people contributing, the editor, Gordon Duff,
    promotes so much unsupported nonsense re 9-11 as to actually hurt the many serious reseachers who’ve taken apart the official 9-11 report.
    Not to mention duff and his sidekick, Jim Dean(i think thats the dudes name) viciously promoted the NATO war on Lybia, which totally destroyed this once stable, secular and relatively prosperous country(highest IDH in Africa, comparable to some countries in Eastern europe), turning it into a basket case and a breeding ground for Waahabi terrorists. The destabilization of Lybia also led to further destabilization elsewhere, i.e.mali, and the spread of Al-CIADA.
    It removed a buffer which tried to contain mass Sub-Saharan Africans from crossing into Europe. This criminal and immoral war was promoted heavily by veteran todays dynamic duo.
    Anyway, Duff himself, a sad little liar, even admitted to the fact that a lot of what he wrote was BS, stating that if he did not do this, he would be killed, Boohoo.

    1. He certainly has not ‘nailed it’ when he equates ‘no plane hit the pentagon’ with ‘nukes don’t exist’.

    2. @ Luca K

      You make some excellent points, especially about Veterans Today being a shit website where a handful of good writers are taken on board in order to give a semblance of respectability to disinfo agents like Gordon Duff and Jim Dean. These guys were booted off PressTV, much to their chagrin, when the Iranians discovered Duff and Dean were up to no good.

      That guy “Dr” Preston James writes deliberate disinfo articles about alien infiltration of the earth and similar garbage like that. However, they have some darn good writers still writing there. My two favorites are Kevin Barrett and Jonas Alexis.

      I believe Lasha used to write for VT at one time as a regular columnist, but I haven’t seen a thing of hers published on VT for quite some time now. So maybe she jumped ship a few months ago when there was a mass exodus of good writers. I have no idea why they all walked out so suddenly. They probably had good reason.

      1. Lasha was at her best when writing for the Occidental Observer. She should do her best to return to it after a long absence. That’s one website I can trust. High quality articles. Complete avoidance of crap. And an erudite editor-writer in charge whose integrity cannot be questioned.

      2. INdeed. Mixing 50% truth (or possible or likely truth) in with the ridiculous is a tactic as old as the hills. People don’t know what to think, so they abandon the whole kettle of fish. Or they believe the foolish because there’s some obvious good in the mix.

        E.g., no plane hit the pentagon (could be true) is stirred in with the no-planes-at-all hit the towers (dumb).

    3. @Luca K, I had a ding dong argument with Duff and Dean over the Libya proposals, which ended in my being blocked from commenting on VT.. PS. @Sardonicus, I, too, like Kevin Barret..

      1. Maybe VT blocked you from commenting, “Ingrid”, because you’re really the pain-in-the-ass Shelley Rubin/MadJewess, and they just don’t have any patience with JDL jews. I can’t say I blame them, I don’t have any patience for you either.

  4. i ain’t got no dog in this fight and don’t care much either way, so that i am not tethered to either version, nukes or no-nukes.

    in fact, i would greatly prefer the no-nukes to be true, if for no other reason but that nukes hurt.
    however, the weight of available and mostly-credible evidence is heavily in favor of yes-nuke camp.

    i recognize that pat’s expertise is many rungs above mine but then again, he is fairly long in tooth and his views were set ages ago, so he may well be like master saddlemaker explaining while cars are bunk.

    in fact, i remember reading scientific american artificial intelligence wonks explaining (quite rationally at that time) why there is no theoretical way that computer will ever beat a high ranking chess grandmaster.

    if i am wrong and all the carefully constructed stories of n-bomb going off in the air above hiroshima and nagasaki are subsequently deconstructed as masterpiece of hasbara, hats off to pat, an argument that i would be happy to lose.

    but generally, the “conspiracy theories” are judged on how efficiently they blow holes in the official script.

    holocaust – a cinch, no contest, thus “conspiracy” no more but a plain statement that it is a lie spun from the whole cloth,
    9/11 – same as above,
    kennedy brothers murders, beyond doubt engineered by jew, although not as crystal clear as the above two cases,
    london tube bombing – clear as day, netanyahu inc,

    a bunch of other, smaller cases, clear evidence of jew perfidy (uss liberty, lavon affair, …, etc)

    the following are somewhat likely but not beyond doubt: moon shot+landing, 9/11 micro nukes (i believe pat that such tiny nuclear bomblets are technically impossible), haarp tricks like earthquakes and tectonic collisions, masonic lodges and jesuits hatch their own plans for takeover,
    (important) jews absolutely control everything and there is no meaningful resistance above and beyond bearded, tattooed old farts in log cabins and bowling alleys in idaho and everything is just puppetry for our amusement and to keep us sedated (many reasons why i don’t buy that)

    totally outlandish red herrings: antarctic nazi submarine bases, hitler and clique alive and well in paraguay and cloned all over the place, anti-gravity vehicles, space lizards, anunaki bogeymen, ufo kidnappings of pretty blonds, etc.

    these are my assessments and that’s all they are.

      1. Bullshit, LD. He covers his ass, as usual, afraid to take a stand. Your synopsis has NO factual basis, and is no more than parroting all the stuff we have been told since infancy – like the ‘holocaust’. Get REAL.

        NONE of us know any better than we’ve been ‘told’. If you want to compare the Japanese cities to Dresden, for instance, REMEMBER that Dresden was built of BRICK and
        STONE – not paper and bamboo. There may truly be atomic
        bombs which have been detonated in the desert – but we
        have NO WAY of knowing HOW BIG they were. Moreover,
        we have been told the HEAT fuses GLASS. Why, then, were
        there ANY structures remaining in those cities??? Use your
        common, critical sense, woman!

    1. lobro –

      Pat ‘long-in-tooth’ says:

      When one sits across from me and ask questions…
      ….and I provide ready answers… proving the physics…
      …. which is too cumbersome for me here…
      ….my teeth ALWAYS become remarkably shorter…
      ….almost as short as Newton’s. 🙂

    2. Thousands in the UK are signing a petition to have Netanyahu arrested on his visit there next month. I don`t suppose it will happen, considering the amount of jew/israel worship in Westminster, but, it does highlight just how many Brits are disgusted by that particular jew and his policies..

      1. Yeah Ingrid, and I bet your takfiri dining companions just LERV your Netanyahu to kibbles-and-bits. But you already know that, as you go out and dine with your best friends all the time : your best friends, the “takfiris” ; In other words, your best friends are jews pretending to be Muslims and committing terrorist acts under the guise of being Muslims so the rest of your jew tribe can encourage everyone to wage war against the Muslim world for the benefit of your eretz izzysmells. Under your MadJewess handle, you encourage everyone to wage war against the Muslim world, because the Muslims produce “terrorists”. Do you tell your readers at your MadJewess website your best friends are jews pretending to be Muslim terrorists so the world will hate Muslims and wage war against the Muslim world for the benefit of your hasheem “god” fat RED joo cow “messiah’s” eretz izzysmell ? LOL LOL LOL….

    3. Well I don’t contribute to this site too often, but sometimes enjoy reading the comments section. I confess to being one of the skunks who had the audacity to drop the bomb on the atomic hoax. (NB I’m not consciously a disinfo agent, nor working in concert, and also resent the accusation of utility.)

      Well Lasha, thank you for trying to disabuse me of this notion (although there was no need to blow up like that) but having researched it, tentative opinion remains: Highly plausible. Why?

      1. Nuclear fission “chain reaction” essentially postulates more power out than in. Sorry, no philosophers stone.
      2. Hiro/ Nag damage is consistent with firebombing – lots of survivors, brick structures intact, plus no change in rate of local birth defects afterwards.
      3. Count the alleged nuclear tests, core meltdowns and incidents over the years – where’s the massive radiation hangover? Why aren’t we all dead? People are reportedly living.
      4. That delightful special tool the Geiger Counter is the only direct way to measure atomic radiation. (Didn’t I see that in Star Trek?)
      5. The zero sum deterrent does not work in practice. Consider crappy 80s teen movie War Games and add hubristic political showponies – someone would have tapped that hair-trigger since ’45. It’s just James Bond double 0 negative.
      6. Lots of demonstrably fake Lookout Mountain-made footage of mushroom clouds etc. Thanks for the propaganda Uncle Sam!
      7. For desert tests, use tonnes of TNT plus magnesium to get that special “flash” effect.
      8. Just like moon landing hoax or the banking magical money machine, it only takes a few at the top to know, and those down the pyramid scurry about thinking it’s all bona fide.

      It’s not the power of God, you think God lets this lot grab the controls and save themselves? No, it’s just Satan pedalling away behind the arras at his lying signs and wonders again. Sorry to disappoint (Can anyone help get the list to 10?).

      1. @ Benc

        Thanks for your intelligent comment. This website (and Lasha in particular) are not interested in winning arguments if the Truth lies on the opposite side. If you are right and can convince us we are wrong, we would be very foolish to stick to our guns out of sheer bloody-minded stupidity. You are the first person to argue your case in a polite and rational way. Feel free to do so. But for every comment like yours, we get ten that resort to abuse and vilification.

      2. Great comment Sir. Agreed with your comment about Lasha too.

        5. Dr Strangelove…Include HollyWeird in the scam and have them make movies playing on people’s fears of the unknown.
        10. Any country that we deem out of control and not under our jurisdiction has or is attempting to have…wait for it…nuclear weapons.
        11. keep people in a constant state of fear and reinforce notion by making grade school kids “bend over and kiss their arse goodby, though under their desks of course.
        12. make a little island drama called “The Cuban Missile Crisis” in order to give a playboy, drug addicted, perennial adulterer, trust-fund son of a bootlegger some street cred before faking his death and making him a martyr.
        13. each one is doubled with nuclear power…which was supposed to overtake oil in energy supply…but in 60+ years has failed to materialize…wonder why?

      3. If you really want to read the evidence for no nukes go to and the nuke hoax and see for yourself.

  5. OT: today we celebrate the 100th anniversary of the gassing, brain-bashing, electrification, shooting, hanging, and general holocausting of jew rapist and child murderer Leo Frank, or as his fellow kikes call him, “a good jew.”

  6. The easiest way to hide the facts of a given “thing” is to stick one’s hand in the water and stir up clouds of sediment to splinter/confuse the (mostly) mutt culture in the U.S. It’s comparable to wasting resources etc. to prove HOW Israel/AIPAC/ U.S. traitors did 9/11 rather than proving their guilt.
    There are a few iron-clad facts that cannot be questioned;

    The Synagogue is behind most misery/perversion/slavery and debauchery in the world with the help of Marranos and Judas “Christians”.

    The U.S./”great” Britain (as a dual world power), are the most purely evil “nations” to ever waste a breath.

    One has more of a chance to see pigs fly over the white house than salvaging the open sewer this Talmudic nation’s “leaders” have made it under the tutelage of the aforementioned Luciferians commonly referred to as
    “The Chosen”.

    Within a few years, (because of the fools in this “mutt” culture), the world will see a Talmudic redux of the Russian slaughter-fest happen in the U.S. engineered by the spawn of the same Bolsheviks who pulled it off before.

    1. Cheer up, Paschn! What you say is no doubt true, but maybe the tide will turn soon. Who knows? Maybe the Chinese or Ruskies will rescue us from the Bolshevik scum who rule America.

      And then what?

      I shudder to think. The Chinese eat dogs and invented the infamous “rat torture” mentioned in Orwell’s 1984. Maybe it ain’t such a good idea being rescued by the Chinese.

      Rescue by the Russians? I ain’t so sure about that either. It was Russian Red army soldiers who raped and tortured 2 million German women in 1944-1947. I wouldn’t like to see their descendants going on the rampage in America. American women are the pits, but I don’t think they deserve to have tits cut off and poles stuck up their vaginas, any more than the German women did.

      When all is said and done, maybe it’s better to stick with the devil you know.

  7. more thoughts on the theory of conspiracy theories.

    first, i disagree that jews are smarter than us, especially when by “us”, i mean those who are awake and alert to judaic perfidy.
    no more groucho stunts like looking bugeyed over your shoulder and saying, hey lookit who’s behind you.

    next, saying a little lie, unconnected to the world of common interest is easy to spin, if i say i have a full head of hair but am actually bald, i can get away with it for years before getting caught (so called bald-faced lie).

    but a great lie that tries to shape the world will fail and fail quite soon, no matter how craftily put together, because it connects to so many things that people are in touch with on everyday basis that contradictions will surface very rapidly and multiply to a ludicrous degree.

    jew, who cultivates lies in his underground labs, he is a farmer of lies, his cash crop, knows this.
    so he must reinforce the crumbling edifice with two main supporting structures:

    laws, internationally enforced, under guises such as “hate crime”, “racism”, “antisemitism”, “conspiracy nuts” … and

    making people as stupid as he can, literally bringing them down to the goy-cattle level of blank incomprehension and disinterest.
    various fancy universities and institutes are employed in nothing but dreaming up schemes for stupefying the goyim down to this ideal zero intellect.
    and once the scheme is hatched, it is passed on to the gigantic lying industry of media, entertainment, educational programs, drugs, sports, etc., opium of the masses, as lenin said.

    raising yourself out of the swamp of non-critical thinking is the single most damaging thing you can do to the jew, the ultimate act of antisemitism (with apologies to nitpickers, yes i know they are not antisemites but i don’t care what i call them so long as everyone understands who i mean).

  8. Nice site ! Bless all your hearts ! Hiroshima propaganda came from cia lookout mountain laboratory in laurel canyon and just like the charles manson and wonderland murders are all hoaxes , so are all the fake nuclear bomb hoaxes ! All courtesy of the pharisees ! Again , bless all of your hearts ! Peace and love

  9. A gullible friend sent me information about that site. Here is what I told him:

    Checked that site. Everything is possible in this world of liars–but I wouldn’t give it more than a 1% probability. Sounds like an idiot or another CIA trick.

    There is overwhelming evidence against him:

    Korea War: China agreed to stop following a N threat

    Churchill and MaCArthur worked tirelessly to use nukes against Russia and China respectively

    The 1973 war was stopped following an Israeli N threat to Egypt

    Vanunu presented real photos, I think.

    Kennedy tried to stop Dimona: why would he care if the whole thing were a fake?

    I don’t think you could fool people like Einstein, Szilard, or Fermi. They were about 1000 times brighter than this Swede, and they agreed that the physics was alright, that it could be done.

    Many vivid accounts of N explosions

    Cancers in NV around test site: higher

    Islands had to be evacuated

    Radiation counts in the world are getting progressively higher

    Nuclear power is possible and based on the same principle. Does this guy deny the radiation coming from Fukushima? Does he deny wildlife deaths and cancers? Does he deny Chernobyl? Khystym (sp?)

    There is a story of a nuclear designer breaking up in tears, walking in the Red Square. There are many other stories of life transforming events. He spent his life working a mirage?

    The Oppenheimer hearings and Edward Teller’ viciousness and H-bomb adventures–is it possible to believe that the whole thing was a fake, based on nothing?

    That page sounds phony–this is just an intuition, but he doesn’t sound like a truth seeker

    If it’s worth it to you, you need to spend a month or so studying the issue from all sides, before going beyond the 1% probability I feel is right.

    I wish he was right–what a wonderful gift to a weary world. Sadly, almost certainly, he isn’t. I’ll have to spend a lot of time judging the physics of his claims and would need to talk to people, but the vanishingly small possibility that he is right doesn’t justify the effort.

    This, and the aliens story (which I would love to be true) are again, most likely, a distraction, like gay marriage now or bread and circuses then.

    Motive for such sites: To discredit claims of real conspiracies. Another Sorcha Faal, and I note more than a million hits. So it works. Kudos to MI6 once more?

    1. Moti –

      The fact of nuclear ‘meltdown’, e.g., Chernobyl, is painfully obvious. I certainly agree with you. What is suspicious is the ability to DELIVER a nuclear explosive device. After considering Pat’s and others’ logic and explanations and KNOWLEDGE, I am relieved to believe that we needn’t all be looking over our shoulders in fear of nuclear annihilation.

      On the other hand, it certainly FITS that our fears have been capitalized on, tremendously. Billions have been made on defense contracts – and many more billions have been made by the bankers who extend the credit to pursue ‘nuclear’ ‘defenses’. Oy vey! Such a DEAL! 🙂

    2. Galen Winsor Galen Winsor Galen Winsor ….everybody google his name. Before the narrative became more fear based, this man swam in the cooling pool containing radio active waste. Lasha, watch the videos where he gives lectures. I’ve been reading the comments here and I must give you some advice Lasha: You have raised our awareness to such a degree, we started researching EVERYTHING. You might want to catch up, retire, or keep up your level 2-3 misinformation. Most people say, under the age of 40, DO NOT get their information from television. They get their information from the internet…from people like you. Willingly or not, you keep the sheeple on the plantation. These sheep are more intelligent than the sheep that watch television, but not as aware as a lot of the commenters here.

  10. so
    the jewish hollocoust never happened
    white americans never killed 119 million natives, 40 million blacks and 2 million vietnamese
    the “der yassin” massacre didnt occur because der
    (or dair or however the pronunciation to english comes out)
    yassin was a convent and my mother (yes my mother an actual survivor of such crime) was a liar (this last one according to “erudite” richaert the best poster at darkmoon´s magazine)

    the bombs in hiroshima and nagasaki were firecrackers
    ahmedinejad is a jesuit
    palestinians are a fake people
    september eleven wasnt done by bin laden
    ruth bernstein isnt a jew, she is a catholic
    lasha darkmoon does NOT have 11 sock puppet accounts
    world peace is declared!

    1. White people have pulled off a some crap, but compared to
      other races we’re divinely benevolent. The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were instigated by Jews, The Ahmedinejad and Palestinian fiascos jew instigated. Jews have commited their crimes in White Face. Read not only history but literature. This generation of youtube twitterers are lost sponges, soaking up the jewish drek

    2. @ AVATAR

      “…White Americans never killed 119 million natives, 40 million blacks and 2 million Vietnamese…”

      The first two statements are right. There lived only one to two million Indians in North America when Whites settled there. Yes, Whites “stole” their land. Yes, Whites often treated the Indians cruelly, but you cannot kill 119 million people from one or two million. You can read about the very modest number of casualities (on both sides) in :

      from which the following quote :

      “It is difficult to determine the total number of people who died as a result of Indian massacres. However, one book, The Wild Frontier: Atrocities during the American-Indian War from Jamestown Colony to Wounded Knee presents an estimate by counting every recorded atrocity in the area that would eventually become the continental United States, from first contact (1511) to the closing of the frontier (1890). The parameters were limited to the intentional and indiscriminate murder, torture, or mutilation of civilians, the wounded, and prisoners. The results revealed that 7,193 people died from atrocities perpetrated by those of European decent, and 9,156 people died from atrocities perpetrated by Native Americans.”

      Only 11 million Aficans were shipped as slaves to the New World, from whom about one million died during the trans-Atlantic passage. Only 400,000 African slaves were shipped to North America. You cannot kill 40 million people from 400,000. There never was any mass killing of Blacks in America.
      (And why don’t you to mention the 10 million African slaves who were shipped to the Middle East by Arabs?)

      Estimates of the casualties of the war in Vietnam, Laos and Camboja combined range from 1,4 to 3,5 million :
      Bad enough.

      I never denied the Deir Yassin massacre. I find it odd that you as a supposed Palestinian cannot spell the name properly : Deir Yassin (Arabic: دير ياسين‎, Dayr Yāsīn)

      The rest of your statements is too ridiculous to go into.

    3. why do you people bother with this jew, as if anything you say makes any difference to a ground troop of Talmud who simply follows the laid out plan, so many worm infested posts a day in so many blogs and his job is done, kick back on the Tel Aviv beach with his gay IDF soulmates.

      Look again:
      he has nothing but praise and brotherhood for jew Portugheis who lays it on Muslims (Ayrabs) for rejecting Jew “peace offers”.
      The very first point in each post he sends in is about 6 million dead Jew brothers and sisters.
      The next one is about the wonders of ISIS.

      And then he tosses the line about how white man killed off Indians, traded slaves, destroyed Deir Yassin (which he can’t spell), just for the confusion effect.

      Get it into your heads:
      Avatar – Jew.

      And stop wasting time and blog space on him.

  11. We’ve seen the photos, we know what happened. The ‘facts’ have already been recorded very thoroughly.
    I don’t think this ‘conspiracy’ is even worth the bandwidth to discuss. In fact, other than this particular article I’ve never read anything that even eluded to anything except nuclear weapons. Apparently I’ve been living under a rock…or something.

    1. You probably always thought that the U.S. income tax was a LAW binding upon all Americans, too. 🙂

  12. Government leaders LIE..!!

    Here are just two:

    1-Holocaust killed 6 million Jews.
    2-Atomic weapons exist.

    Extra bonus LIE = Moon Landing.

    “Big enough and often….”

    1. Pat –

      It’s not ‘the Jews’ who are to blame so much as the ‘goyim’ VOID of balls and the ability to think critically. I read the assholes on here always lamenting ‘Jew this’ and ‘Jew that’ – but see a true lack of balls and fortitude. They can’t even plant a goddam FENCEPOST, and they’re attempting to convince everyone it’s all ‘the Jews” fault. They’re pitiful…

    2. @ Lasha

      Thank you for an excellent and a very logical article on the reality of nuclear weapons. It should settle the matter, but I’m sure it won’t. Misinformation tends to last for a long time.

      Here is another simple indication that nuclear weapons were used on Japan in WWII. There have been no stories contradicting the use of nuclear weapons from any of the survivors, witnesses, relatives and descendents of survivors or victims of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki blasts. Certainly by now, contradicting accounts from some of these people would have surfaced especially on the internet during the past 20-years. If there has been, I missed them.

  13. No, nuclear weapons do not exist, and the fact that you think there is no answering the lie of nukes proves nothing other than your own intellectual feebleness.

    Obviously idiots like you are not prepared to hear the simple arguments which blow this astounding lie into dust, so I won’t bother.

    I’ll just laugh at the dumb stuff you believe, so stupid that you make a North Korean look open-minded.

    1. @ MattyXGuy

      Oh, I get it. You are right because the vehemence of your abuse makes you right. No facts necessary. We are wrong because you are far better than us at abuse, contempt and ridicule. Ever heard of the ad hominem argument?

      1. @ Toby
        @ Pat
        @ Gilby

        And don’t forget Pat and his sidekick Gilby. They too are right that there ain’t no nukes. Nor never was nor never won’t be! Pat does it by saying there ain’t no nukes with more smiley faces than Charlie Chaplin ever used in a lifetime! 🙂

        He proves there ain’t to nukes by telling us (in strictest confidence) that he was a topnotch nuclear scientist working at Los Alamos. Yep, Pat was a big buddy of Einstein and Oppenheimer and was one of the big guns behind the Manhattan Project! Wow, ain’t this butterfly lady impressed! 🙂

        Pat also knew Eustace Mullins This is his trump card. He plays it all the time, like his sidekick Gilby, bragging how he sat with Eustace on his porch watching the sun go down! I reckon Pat is the mastermind behind Eustace, helping to dictate Eustace’s shocking antisemitic books! He is also the mastermind behind Gilby’s brilliant poems, helping to suggest the right rhyme when the Poet Laureate of Broken Jaw can’t think of a nice word to rhyme with “loony”. Then Pat comes to the rescue and suggests “Darkmoony” — and the problem is solved! 🙂

        Between them, these two uber-geniuses have convinced me that NO NUKES EXIST! All those smiley faces of Pat’s and all those links to conspiracy theory sites have convinced me that Pat is right. I don’t think facts or logic are necessary when we are in the presence of a man of such genius who was at Los Alamos and knew Einstein, Oppenheimer and Eustace Mullins personally! 🙂

        Same with Gilby. He needs no facts or logic. He has settled the whole question of nukes by using one strong and punchy macho argument. He has said that everything Lasha has to say about nukes actually existing is “BULLSHIT”!!! Wow, that is his ONE and ONLY argument for the non-existence of nukes! Anyone who says nukes exist is talking “BULLSHIT”!

        How totally awesome and absolutely convincing! 🙂

        Here is a cowboy who argues with his FISTS and his BOOTS! To hell with facts and logic! If you don’t agree with Gilby, he will prove you wrong by beating the shit out of you and then feeding you to the pigs on his farm. With Yanks like this, there ain’t no use gettin’ into an argument. You just gotta believe him for your own goddam SURVIVAL!!! 🙂

        Yes, I am now a convert to the NO NUKES EXIST conspiracy theory, thanks to the BRILLIANT arguments advanced by Pat and the Poet Laureate of Broken Jaw 🙂 🙂 🙂

        Madame Butterfly,
        Long-Term Radiation Sickness Unit,

      2. MB –

        Thanks for setting the record straight….
        … you ‘plastic blue-winged x-gen babe.’ This is for YOU… 🙂 🙂

        You know I never did any of that stuff… I was bluffiin’ like you did as an addicted alcoholic chuggin’ vodka all day and checkin’ into rehab.. 🙁

        I am 22 years old and bed-ridden all day …
        ….. takin’ college courses… 😉

        I missed that ‘Darkmoony’ stuff, though. What was that???

        Yep… YOU DO have a cute stinger… Keep it up with the cod liver oil.

        Toby – Pay her very little attention… She just wants more controversy here.

      3. @ Pat

        Toby – Pay her very little attention… She just wants more controversy here.

        Yeah, she can be a pain in the ass. But I can’t ban everyone who steps out of line. If I did, you’d be the only guy posting here. 🙂

      4. easy on her, toby.

        madam butterfly is just being herself, a girl.

        watch how the sexes act within this blog.

        a man is interested in what people say.
        a woman is interested in people themselves.

        it is just part of the genetic package.

        we spin theories about those who would rule us.
        women spin theories about us, so m/b is just doing her job.
        if she wasn’t, it would be outside my comfort zone.

        so when i read stuff by various madams, butterfly, rothschild, bernstein, i never, ever get upset, it is all fun and learning experience.

      5. @ lobro

        easy on her, toby. madam butterfly is just being herself, a girl. a man is interested in what people say. a woman is interested in people themselves.

        Grrr…! You are sooo patronizing! You are basically saying: “Men think, women feel.”

        Don’t kid yourself. When women cook, they have to think carefully. Feeling strongly about food ain’t gonna cook a gourmet dish. Madame Curie didn’t make her great scientific discoveries by feeling strongly about test tubes! She had to sit down and think mighty long.

      6. curry is one of my favorite dishes but i am sure hers would suck.

        you specialize in himalayan butterflies, don’t you … i don’t mean as a culinary ingredient, but it may also mean that you know how to whip up a mean curry, an intuitive one, with feeling but without pedantic measurement.

        sounds intriguing.

      7. @ Toby

        Thanks for moving my last post to the proper article. I should have thought to just duplicate it like you did, but I was miffed at myself at the time.

        @ Madame Butterfly

        I thoroughly enjoyed the satire. I chuckled all the way through it, but maybe I have a twisted sense of humor. Even if it had been aimed at me, I would have still thought is was funny. Your closing location was absolutely priceless.

  14. Franklin Ryckaert doesn’t take into account the “shadow government” of the world. None of his examples involve anyone who had any awareness of the possible truth or falsity of nuclear bombs. The commenters on this board are under the delusion that they “know” a damned thing about nuclear weapons. The only way to “know” something is through personal experience; few to none have any personal experience with nuclear weapons. If nuclear weapons are a fraud, the question becomes: who knows this? And who is manipulating the fraud for all to believe in nuclear weapons? I give a big fat zero to Ryckaert’s childishly naive approach to a very serious subject. What we do “know” about the subject is that we are constantly told ridiculously false things about the capabilities of these weapons that no one has ever had ANY experience with whatsoever. One of the latest examples being the nonsensical “dirty bomb” crapola. Try again, Ryckaert – keeping in mind that the fraud, if there is one, is a very successful one.

    1. If you do your research you can unravel all conspiracies of the so called “shadow governments” of this world. 9/11 was a big conspiracy of that “shadow government”, but we know that it was a false flag operation.

      As for the need of “personal experience”, are the photos and testimonies of the Japanese victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki not enough?

      1. Unfortunately, the photos and testimonies of Japanese victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are pretty laughable and tend to enforce the nuke hoax view. They are the equivalent of the Holocaust “I survived 6 gassings” claims. Nuclear weapons are a very easy hoax to pull off given their secrecy. It is difficult to prove a negative of course; but positive identification of nuclear bombs are sorely lacking and the number and quality of the lies about them compel one to have very serious skepticism on the matter.

    1. Michael Rivero, who resembles Geraldo Rivera, is a smart Jew. Should be a home run for him.

      He was featured on GCN, run by Jews, and appears on the Alex Jones – wife a Jew – Show.

      Rivero openly admits that his paternal ancestors were Sephardic Jews.

    2. I sometimes think about extending my Challenges to include proving that the a-bomb works. But I consider my proven facts that a-bombs do not work at too convincing, so there is no reason to waste time on it.
      Only completely brainwashed silly fools believe in the a-bomb nonsense anyway. Of course the greatest, most intelligent stateman of all times with his nice moustache, Roosefelt loved him, managed to put together an a-bomb in only four years 1945-1949 using uranium mined by Wismut AG of Saxony, East Germany, using German slave labor but anyone who attended know Wismut AG was just a big bluff. So Stalin built his a-bomb without uranium. Quite a feat.

  15. somebody, ungenius i think but maybe not, pointed out an interesting bit.

    namely, in every big lie of this nature, where there are lots of innocent dead and wounded, there are always a few survivors whose silence and complicity cannot be bought and they speak out.

    there are jews who were in the camps testifying to german adminstration’s care and decency in treatment of inmates, the orchetras, clubs, swimming pools and so on, see it on youtube where such jews speak openly.

    there are families of 9/11 victims who refuse the settlement offered by jew judge hellerstein and insist on proper investigation, submission of redacted evidence and the truth, despite severe pressure and persecution.

    why isn’t there a single hiroshima+nagasaki (h+n) victim stating that there were long lasting successive waves of b-52’s dropping incendiary munitions over a dispersed area?
    and why would jew slaves usa and the uk admit to firebombing of tokyo and dozens of prefectures but would spin the lie for h+n?

    the fact is that the japanese are even more civic minded and harder to suborn than americans and certainly more so than jews.

    where are they?

    all i am saying is that if the n-bombs over h+n are a lie, how come that of all the giant lies this one holds up so well to scrutiny while all the others collapsed at the first whiff of truth?
    would someone offer 1 million euros for a proof of nukes – why not?
    people offered huge amounts for proof of nazi gas chambers or mass burial sites and no one claimed the reward.

    i have no idea how someone can be so blind to such contradictions and just plod on like a blinkered mule bleating out the same old.

    for example, yesterday i posted 2 pictures, one of a young guy without surface wounds apart from a bit of buckshot-like pecks on his face who within 3 days of the hiroshima blast died of massive internal bleeding.
    the only explanation is neutron bombardment, such as would result from an a-bomb detonator to get the fission going.
    secondly, there was a woman with face blasted off but untouched torso covered in white shirt fabric that reflected the optical flash without burning, something that an incendiary bomb like white phosphorus or thermobaric weapon would not be able to do – they burn right thru everything.

    if i am wrong, explain it, rather that blithely calling me a moron and disappearing in a hit and run fashion.
    when i call someone a moron, i got a truckload of arguments to support it.
    without it, the epithet would be justly reflected back on me.

    as i said, some of these events are still open to doubt and are not open and shut cases.
    i am only interested in truth, not personal vendettas and agendas.

    1. OK – – –

      YOU’RE NOT A MORON…!!! All better, now…?? Hmmmm??

      The white shirt in pic was a ‘blooper’ caused by the hurried underpaid drunken ‘crisis actor’ not in full costume. Good help hard to find in all eras… even WWII era. SO THERE..!!!

      1. You can have “crisis actors” for a small operation like Sandy Hook, but not for such big operations like Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

        The idea that nuclear bombs are a hoax in which the governments of several nations cooperate (even enemies) is as likely as that other “super conspiracy theory” which says that all nations ( including Russia, China and Iran) are controlled by Jews and all international conflicts are part of some super “Hegelian dialectic” to bring world rule to the Jews.

        There is such a thing as likely and unlikely conspiracies.


    You can have “crisis actors” for a small operation like Sandy Hook, but not for such big operations like Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    The idea that nuclear bombs are a hoax in which the governments of several nations cooperate (even enemies) is as likely as that other “super conspiracy theory” which says that all nations ( including Russia, China and Iran) are controlled by Jews and all international conflicts are part of some super “Hegelian dialectic” to bring world rule to the Jews.

    All correct. The only problem is your trying to have a sane discussion with trolls, loonies and idiots. That never works.
    BTW, Pat knows as much about nuclear weapons as he does about combat sports, i.e, Nothing.

    1. Well, I have no education in physics (let alone nuclear physics) at all. So the only thing I can do is to use my common sense. Why for example would Pakistan pretend to have developed a nuclear bomb in response to India’s nuclear bomb if it would know that it was all a hoax? It could simply laugh it off. At least one nation could spill the beans, but that didn’t happen.

      1. Luca –
        I need your help…. again…

        I remember that you told me once… a while back… but, I am not the weapons specialist you are… and forgot/never really committed to memory/didn’t write it down….

        What is the design of the trigger mechanisms and explosive material used in the MIRV nuclear warheads these days?
        How heavy and what is the volume of the electro-servo dual-gyro-guidance-package lately??

        Please bring me up to date there.

      2. Because nuclear physicists so-called get lots and lots of money. It’s that in modern air-conditioned buildings with air travel and so on, or some village full of cowshit. To put it in simple terms. However most of the stuff is kept secret; as in modern wars supported by jews, there’s a huge supporting staff with no idea what’s going on, who support it because they are paid. All the actual nuclear stuff is carried out by companies run by Jews. The IAEA has very limited functions. I reviewed a book by Hans Blix on bi-lies, but I won’t give the URL since some of the people here may be able to find it all by themselves.

  17. For your information: There is a very comprehensive article on wether atomic bombs work or not, the link is:
    And, there is a challenge to any one who can prove that the atomic bomb work worth one million € ( 1 000 000 €).
    As for my own view, since nothing has been done to prove that the atomic bomb do work, I will stick to the thesis that it does´t work.
    How on earth can you people and Lasha resort to the conclusion that the bomb work without presenting evidence of it, rather than just claiming it has to work since the level of such fraud and faking is incomprehensible or unfathomable.
    This is called cognitive dissonans and in this case it´s on a massive scale.
    Since most of you will spit on this comment and continue with not studying the link and instead calling me names such as a hired provocateur I will just say, keep on dreaming but the scary bomb does not exist. Remember almost everything we are fed from MSM is either fake, staged or plain farytales.
    Sorry for my bad english.

  18. I have run, when discussing the holocau$t with holo enforcers, across some suspiciously similar tactics that I can see here re the nuclear attacks against Japan, albeit with a different spin.
    Holocrock enforcers like to say that if the holo did not happen as alleged then it follows – it does not – that events like Nagasaki/Hiroshima nuke bombings or the battle of Stalingrad, etc, could also be challenged.

    Such a line is untenable, a mere exercise in sophistry.

    Events like Nagasaki/Hiroshima are massively well documented and arguments against them are pure tin foil hat stuff which do not survive the most elementary scrutiny.

    But the holohoax is NOT well documented at all, despite the fact that holo enforcers try to pretend it is. As a matter of fact, many holohoax ‘historians’ have admitted the near complete lack of evidence in support of their narrative. While ignoring a mountain of evidence which shoots it down.
    I’ll let Prof.Faurisson list(with some editing for brevity) several admissions against interest, i.e, made by holohoaxters themselves;

    I shall recall here just twenty of these victories:
    – In 1951 the Jew Léon Poliakov, who had been part of the French delegation at the Nuremberg trial (1945-1946), stated his conclusion that we had at our disposal an overabundance of documents for all points of the history of the Third Reich, with the exception of one point alone: the “campaign to exterminate the Jews”. For this, he wrote, “No document remains,perhaps none has ever existed” (Bréviaire de la haine, Paris, Calmann-Lévy, 1974 [1951], p. 171; English version: Harvest of Hate, New York, Holocaust Library, 1979, revised and expanded edition)\.

    Remark: There is here an extraordinary concession to the revisionist case. In effect, such a formidable criminal undertaking supposedly conceived, ordered, organised and perpetrated by the Germans would have necessitated an order, a plan, instructions, a budget, … Such an undertaking, carried out over several years on a whole continent and generating the death of millions of victims, would have left a flood of documentary evidence. Consequently, if we are told that there perhaps has never existed any such documentary evidence, it is because the crime in question was not perpetrated. In the complete absence of documents, the historian has no longer anything to do but keep quiet. L. Poliakov made this concession in 1951, that is, fifty-five years ago. However, it must be noted that, from 1951 to 2006, his successors have equally failed to find the least documentary evidence. Occasionally, here and there, we have witnessed attempts at making us believe in such or such discovery but each time, as will be seen below, the “discoverers” and their publicists have had to drop their claim.

    – In 1960 Martin Broszat, a member of the Institute of Contemporary History in Munich, wrote: “Neither at Dachau, nor at Bergen-Belsen, nor at Buchenwald were any Jews or other detainees gassed” (“Keine Vergasung in Dachau”, Die Zeit, August 19, 1960, p. 16)\.

    Remark: This sudden and unexplained concession is significant. At the Nuremberg trial the only homicidal gas chamber that the accusation ventured to show in a film had been that of Dachau, and the testimonies telling of alleged homicidal gassings in the three above-mentioned camps had been numerous. M. Broszat thus implicitly acknowledged that those testimonies were false. He did not tell us in what respect they were false. Nor did he tell us in what respect other such testimonies relating, for example, to Auschwitz, Majdanek, Treblinka, Sobibor or Belzec should, for their part, go on being deemed reliable. In the 1980s, at Dachau, a sign indicated in five languages that the “gas chamber disguised as showers”, visited by the tourists, was “never used” as such. The revisionists had then asked in what respect the room could be termed a homicidal “gas chamber”, whereupon the Dachau Museum authorities took down the sign and replaced it with another on which, in German and English, can now be read: “Gas chamber. This was the center of potential mass murder. The room was disguised as ‘showers’ and equipped with fake shower spouts to mislead the victims and prevent them from refusing to enter the room. During a period of 20 minutes up to 150 people at a time could be suffocated to death through prussic acid poison gas (Zyklon B).” One will note the words “potential” and “could”, the choice of which attests to a fine bit of trickery: the information spawns in visitors’ minds the idea that the said “gas chamber” was effectively used for killing but, at the same time, it enables the museum to retort to revisionists: “We haven’t expressly said that this gas chamber was used for killing; we’ve merely said that it could be or could have been, at the time, used to kill a certain number of people”\. To conclude, in 1960 M. Broszat, without any explanation, decreed in a simple letter that no one had been gassed at Dachau; thenceforth, the Dachau Museum authorities, quite embarrassed, have tried, by means of assorted deceitful ploys varying over time, to fool their visitors into believing that, in this room that looks like showers (and for good reason, since that is what it was), people had well and truly been gassed.

    – In 1968 the Jewish historian Olga Wormser-Migot, in her thesis on Le Système concentrationnaire nazi, 1933-1945, (Paris, Presses universitaires de France), gave an ample exposition of what she called “the problem of the gas chambers” (p. 541-544). She voiced her scepticism as to the worth of some well-known witnesses’ accounts attesting to the existence of gas chambers in camps such as Mauthausen or Ravensbrück. On Auschwitz-I she was categorical: that camp where, still today, tourists visit an alleged gas chamber was, in reality, “without any gas chamber” (p. 157)\.

    Remark: To bring their horrible charges of homicidal gassings against the defeated, the accusers have relied solely on testimonies and those testimonies have not been verified. Let us take note of the particular case of Auschwitz-I: it was thus 38 years ago that a Jewish historian had the courage to write that this camp was “without any gas chamber”; however, still today, in 2006, crowds of tourists there visit an enclosed space that the authorities dare to present, fallaciously, as a “gas chamber”. Here we see a practice of outright deceit.

    – In 1961 the Jew Raul Hilberg, orthodox historian Number One, published the first edition of his major work, The Destruction of the European Jews, and it was in 1985 that he brought out the second edition, a profoundly revised and corrected version. The distance between the two is considerable and can only be explained by the succession of victories achieved in the meantime by the revisionists. In the first edition the author had brazenly affirmed that “the destruction of the Jews of Europe” had been set off following two consecutive orders given by Hitler. He neither specified the date nor reproduced the wording thereof. Then he professed to explain in detail the political, administrative and bureaucratic process of that destruction; for example he went so far as to write that at Auschwitz the extermination of the Jews was organised by an office that was in charge of both the disinfection of clothing and the extermination of human beings (The Destruction of the European Jews, 1961, republished in 1979 by Quadrangle Books, Chicago, p. 177, 570). However, in 1983, going back completely on that explanation, Hilberg suddenly proceeded to state that the business of “the destruction of the European Jews” had, after all, gone on without a plan, without any organisation, centralisation, project or budget, but altogether thanks to “an incredible meeting of minds, a consensus-mind reading by a far-flung bureaucracy” (Newsday, New York, February 23, 1983, p. II/3). He would confirm this explanation under oath at the first Zündel trial in Toronto on January 16, 1985 (verbatim transcript, p. 848); he would soon afterwards confirm it anew but with other words in the greatly revised version of his above-mentioned work (New York, Holmes & Meier, 1985, p. 53, 55, 62). He has just recently, in October 2006, confirmed it yet again in an interview given to Le Monde: “There was no pre-established guiding plan. As for the question of the decision, it is in part unsolvable: no order signed by Hitler has ever been found, doubtless because no such document ever existed. I am persuaded that the bureaucracies moved through a sort of latent structure: each decision brings on another, then another, and so forth, even if it isn’t possible to foresee exactly the next step” (Le Monde des livres, October 20, 2006, p. 12)\.

    Remark: The Number One historian of the Jewish genocide, at a certain point, thus found himself so helpless that he suddenly proceeded to disown his first version and to explain a gigantic undertaking of collective murder as if it had all been carried out through something like the workings of the Holy Spirit. In effect, since then he has evoked a “meeting of minds” within a bureaucracy, terming this meeting “incredible”. If it is “incredible” or unbelievable, why then should it be believed? Must one believe the unbelievable? He also brings up “mind reading” and states it was performed by “consensus”, but this is a matter of pure intellectual speculation grounded in a belief in the supernatural. How can one believe in such a phenomenon, particularly within a vast bureaucratic structure and, still more particularly, within the bureaucracy of the Third Reich? It is worth noting that on R. Hilberg’s example the other official historians set about, in the 1980s and 1990s, abandoning history and lapsed into metaphysics and jargon. They questioned themselves on the point of whether one should be “intentionalist” or “functionalist”: must it be supposed that the extermination of the Jews occurred subsequent to an “intent” (not yet proved) and in line with a concerted plan (not yet found), or instead had that extermination happened all by itself, spontaneously and through improvisation, without there being any formal intent and with no plan? This type of woolly controversy attests to the disarray of historians who, unable to provide evidence and real documents to back their case, are thus reduced to theorising in the void. At bottom, those on one side, the “intentionalists”, tell us: “There were necessarily an intent and a plan, which we haven’t yet found but which we shall perhaps indeed discover one day”, whereas the others affirm: “There is no need to go looking for evidence of an intent and a plan, for everything was able to occur without intent, without plan and without leaving any traces; such traces are not to be found because they have never existed.”

    – In May 1986 in France, certain Jews, alarmed upon realising that they could not manage to answer the revisionists on the simple plane of reason, decided to take action with a view to obtaining a legal prohibition of revisionism. Chief amongst them were Georges Wellers and Pierre Vidal-Naquet, grouped, with their friends, round the country’s head rabbi René-Samuel Sirat (Bulletin quotidien de l’Agence télégraphique juive, June 1986, p. 1, 3). After four years, on July 13, 1990, they would get, thanks notably to Jewish former Prime Minister Laurent Fabius, then president of the National Assembly, a special law passed allowing for the punishment of any person who publicly made revisionist statements on the subject of the “extermination of the Jews”: up to a year’s imprisonment, a fine of €45,000 and still other sanctions. This recourse to force is a flagrant admission of weakness\.

    Remark: G. Wellers and P. Vidal-Naquet were especially alarmed by the court decision of April 26, 1983 (see paragraph 8 above). The former wrote: “The court admitted that [Faurisson] was well documented, which is false. It is astonishing that the court should fall for that” (Le Droit de vivre, June-July 1987, p. 13). The latter wrote that the Paris Court of Appeal “recognised the seriousness of Faurisson’s work — which is quite outrageous — ¬and finally found him guilty only of having acted malevolently by summarising his theses as slogans” (Les Assassins de la mémoire, Paris, La Découverte, 1987, p. 182; here quoted the English translation: Assassins of Memory, New York, Columbia University Press, 1992).

    – In August 1986 Michel de Boüard, himself deported during the war as a résistant, professor of history and Dean of letters at the University of Caen (Normandy), member of the Institut de France and former head of the Commission d’histoire de la déportation within the official Comité d’histoire de la deuxième guerre mondiale, declared that, all told, “the dossier is rotten”. He specified that the dossier in question, that of the history of the German concentration camp system, was “rotten” due to, in his own words, “a huge amount of made-up stories, inaccuracies stubbornly repeated — particularly where numbers are concerned — amalgamations and generalisations”. Alluding to the revisionists’ studies, he added that there were “on the other side, very carefully done critical studies demonstrating the inanity of those exaggerations” (Ouest-France of August 2nd and 3rd, 1986, p. 6)\.

    Remark: Michel de Boüard was a professional historian, indeed the ablest French historian on the subject of the wartime deportations. Up to 1985 he defended the strictly orthodox and official position. Upon reading the revisionist Henri Roques’s doctoral thesis on the alleged testimony of SS man Kurt Gerstein, he saw his error. He honestly acknowledged it, going so far as to say that, if he hitherto personally upheld the existence of a gas chamber in the Mauthausen camp, he had done so wrongly, on the faith of what was said around him. (His untimely death in 1989 deprived the revisionist camp of an eminent personality who had resolved to publish a new work aiming to put historians on their guard against the official lies of Second World War history).

    – In 1988 Arno Mayer, an American professor of Jewish origin teaching contemporary European history at Princeton University, wrote on the subject of the Nazi gas chambers: “Sources for the study of the gas chambers are at once rare and unreliable” (The “Final Solution” in History, New York, Pantheon Books, p. 362)\.

    Remark: Still today in, 2006, the greater public persist in believing that, as the media tirelessly suggest, the sources for the study of the gas chambers are innumerable and unquestionable. At the Sorbonne symposium of 1982, A. Mayer, like his friend Pierre Vidal-Naquet, could not find words harsh enough for the revisionists; however, six years later, here was an ultra-orthodox historian who had drawn considerably closer to the revisionists’ findings.

    – In 1989 Swiss historian Philippe Burrin, laying down as a premise, without demonstration, the reality of Nazi gas chambers and Jewish genocide, attempted to determine at what date and by whom the decision to exterminate physically the Jews of Europe had been taken. He did not succeed any more than all his “intentionalist” or “functionalist” colleagues (Hitler et les juifs / Genèse d’un génocide, Paris, Seuil; English version: Hitler and the Jews: the Genesis of the Holocaust, London, Edward Arnold, 1994). He had to remark the absence of traces of the crime and note what he decided to call “the stubborn erasure of the trace of anyone’s passing through” (p. 9). He bemoaned “the large gaps in the documentation” and added: “There subsists no document bearing an extermination order signed by Hitler. […] In all likelihood, the orders were given verbally. […] here the traces are not only few and far between, but difficult to interpret” (p. 13)\.

    Remark: Here again is a professional historian who acknowledges that he can produce no documents in support of the official case. The greater public imagine that the traces of Hitler’s crime are many and unambiguous but the historian who has examined the relevant documentation has, for his part, found nothing but sparse semblances and “traces”, and wonders what interpretation to give to them.

    – In 1992 Yehuda Bauer, professor at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, stated at an international conference on the genocide of the Jews held in London: “The public still repeats, time after time, the silly story that at Wannsee the extermination of the Jews was arrived at” (Jewish Telegraphic Agency release published as “Wannsee’s importance rejected”, Canadian Jewish News, January 30, 1992, p. 8)\.

    Remark: Apart from the fact that a careful reading of the “minutes” of the Berlin-Wannsee meeting of January 20, 1942 proves that the Germans envisaged a “territorial final solution [eine territoriale Endlösung] of the Jewish question” in a geographical space to be determined, Yehuda Bauer’s quite belated declaration confirms that this major point of the case alleging the extermination of the Jews is in fact worthless. Let us add, in our turn, that the extermination of the Jews was decided on neither at Wannsee nor anywhere else; the expression “extermination camps” is but an invention of American war propaganda and there are examples proving that, during that war, the killing of a single Jewish man or woman exposed the perpetrator, whether soldier or civilian, member of the SS or not, to German military justice proceedings and the possibility of being shot by firing squad (in sixty years, never has a sole orthodox historian provided an explanation for such facts, revealed by the defence before the Nuremberg tribunal itself).

    – In January 1995 French historian Eric Conan, co-author with Henry Rousso of Vichy, un passé qui ne passe pas (Paris, Gallimard, 2001 [1994, 1996]; English edition: Vichy: an ever-present past, Hanover, New Hampshire and London, University Press of New England, 1998), wrote that I had been right after all to certify, in the late 1970s, that the gas chamber thus far visited by millions of tourists at Auschwitz was completely fake. According to E. Conan, expressing himself in a leading French weekly: “Everything in it is false […]. In the late 1970s, Robert Faurisson exploited these falsifications all the better as the [Auschwitz] museum administration balked at acknowledging them”. Conan went on: “[Some people], like Théo Klein [former president of the CRIF, the ‘Representative Council of Jewish Institutions of France’], prefer to leave it in its present state, whilst explaining the misrepresentation to the public: ‘History is what it is; it suffices to tell it, even when it is not simple, rather than to add artifice to artifice’”. Conan then related a staggering remark by Krystyna Oleksy, deputy director of the Auschwitz National Museum, who, for her part, could not find the resolve to explain the misrepresentation to the public. He wrote: “Krystyna Oleksy […] can’t bring herself to do so: ‘For the time being [the room designated as a gas chamber] is to be left “as is”, with nothing specified to the visitor. It’s too complicated. We’ll see to it later on’”(“Auschwitz: la mémoire du mal” [Auschwitz: the remembrance of evil], L’Express, January 19-25, 1995, p. 68)\.

    Remark: This statement by a Polish official means, in plain language: we have lied, we are lying and, until further notice, we shall continue to lie. In 2005 I asked E. Conan whether the Auschwitz Museum authorities had issued a denial or raised any protest against the statement that he, in 1995, had ascribed to K. Oleksy. His answer was that there had been neither denial nor protest. In 1996, this imposture and others as well concerning the Auschwitz-I camp were denounced by two Jewish authors, Robert Jan van Pelt and Deborah Dwork, in a work they produced together: Auschwitz, 1270 to the Present, Yale University Press, 443 p. Here is a sampling of their words in that regard: “postwar obfuscation”, “additions”, “deletions”, “suppression”, “reconstruction”, “largely a postwar reconstruction” (p. 363), “reconstructed”, “usurpation”, “re-created”, “four hatched openings in the roof, as if for pouring Zyklon B into the gas chamber below, were installed [after the war]” (p. 364), “ falsified”, “inexact”, “misinformation”, “inappropriate” (p. 367), “falsifying” (p. 369). In 2001 the fallacious character of this Potemkin village gas chamber was also acknowledged in a French booklet accompanying two CD-Roms entitled Le Négationnisme; written by Jean-Marc Turine and Valérie Igounet, it was prefaced by Simone Veil (Radio France-INA, Vincennes, Frémeaux & Associés).

    – In 1996 the leftwing French historian Jacques Baynac, a staunch antirevisionist since 1978, ended up admitting, after due consideration, that there was no evidence of the Nazi gas chambers’ existence. One could not fail to note, wrote Baynac, “the absence of documents, traces or other material evidence” (Le Nouveau Quotidien de Lausanne [Switzerland], September 2, 1996, p. 16, and September 3, 1996, p. 14). But he said that he carried on believing in the existence of those magical gas chambers\.

    Remark: All in all, J. Baynac says: “There is no evidence but I believe”, whereas a revisionist thinks: “There is no evidence, therefore I refuse to believe and it is my duty to dispute.”

    – In 2000, at the end of her book Histoire du négationnisme en France (Paris, Gallimard), Valérie Igounet published a long text by Jean-Claude Pressac at the end of which the latter, who had been one of the revisionists’ most determined opponents, signed a veritable act of surrender. In effect, taking up the words of professor Michel de Boüard, he stated that the dossier on the concentration camp system was “rotten”, and irremediably so. He wrote asking: “Can things be put back on an even keel?” and answered: “It is too late”. He added: “The current form, albeit triumphant, of the presentation of the camp universe is doomed”. He finished by surmising that everything that had been invented around sufferings all too real was bound “for the rubbish bins of history” (p. 651-652). In 1993-1994, that protégé of the French Jew Serge Klarsfeld and the American rabbi Michael Berenbaum, “Project Director” at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, had been acclaimed worldwide as an extraordinary researcher who, in his book on Les Crématoires d’Auschwitz, la machinerie du meurtre de masse (Paris, CNRS éditions, 1993; English title: The Auschwitz Crematories. The Machinery of Mass Murder ), had, it appeared, felled the hydra of revisionism. Here, in V. Igounet’s book, he was seen signing his act of surrender\.

    Remark: The greater public are kept in ignorance of a major fact: the man who had supposedly saved the day for History, who once was presented by the world press as an extraordinary researcher who had at last discovered the scientific proof of the Nazi gas chambers’ existence, ended up acknowledging his error. A few years later, not a single newspaper or magazine announced his death.

    – In 2002, R. J. van Pelt, already mentioned, published The Case for Auschwitz. Evidence from the Irving Trial, Indiana University Press, XVIII-571 p. As is widely known, David Irving, who at the very most is a semi-revisionist ill-acquainted with the revisionist argumentation, lost the libel suit he had recklessly brought against the Jewish-American academic Deborah Lipstadt. He tried clumsily to make the case — a perfectly right one, for that matter — that there had existed no homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz. But he nonetheless scored an essential point and, if Justice Charles Gray and other judges after him had had more courage, that point would have enabled him to succeed in his claim. The argument was summed up in a four-word phrase that I first put forth in 1994: “No holes, no Holocaust”. My reasoning behind it was as follows: 1. Auschwitz is at the centre of the “Holocaust”; 2. The great crematoria of Auschwitz-Birkenau, or Auschwitz-II, are at the centre of the vast Auschwitz complex; 3. At the heart of these crematoria there were, supposedly, one or several homicidal gas chambers; 4. At a single one of these crematoria (crematorium n° 2), although it is in ruins, is it today possible to go and examine the room said to have been a gas chamber; it is the presumed scene of the crime, itself presumed as well; 5. We are told that, in order to kill the Jewish detainees locked inside, an SS man, moving about on the concrete roof of the said gas chamber, poured Zyklon-B pellets through four regular openings situated in the roof; 6. However, one need only have eyes to realise that no such openings have ever existed there; 7. Therefore the crime cannot have been committed. For R. J. van Pelt, testifying against Irving, it was near torture trying to find a reply to this argument. Justice Gray as well had to acknowledge “the apparent absence of evidence of holes” (p. 490 of the verbatim transcript) and, in a more general way, he conceded that “contemporaneous documents yield little clear evidence of the existence of gas chambers designed to kill humans” (p. 489; for more details one may consult pages 458-460, 466-467, 475-478 and 490-506). In the text of his judgment, Charles Gray admitted surprise: “I have to confess that, in common I suspect with most other people, I had supposed that the evidence of mass extermination of Jews in the gas chambers at Auschwitz was compelling. I have, however, set aside this preconception when assessing the evidence adduced by the parties in these proceedings” (13.71). Here the failure of the accusing historians is flagrant and Irving ought to have won his case thanks to that observation by a judge who was hostile towards him: the documents of the era furnish us with but decidedly little clear evidence of the Nazi gas chambers’ existence and thus of a German policy to exterminate the Jews. Is this not, after all — as we have seen above —, what several Jewish historians had already concluded, beginning with Léon Poliakov in 1951?

    – In 2004 French historian Florent Brayard published a work entitled La « solution finale de la question juive ». La technique, le temps et les catégories de la décision, Paris, Fayard, 640 p. In 2005, in a review of this book, the following three sentences could be read: “It is known that the Führer neither drafted nor signed any order to eliminate the Jews, that the decisions — for there were several — were taken in the secrecy of talks with Himmler, perhaps Heydrich and/orGöring. It is supposed that, rather than an explicit order, Hitler gave his consent to his interlocutors’ requests or projects. Perhaps he did not even put it into words, but made himself understood by a silence or an acquiescence” (Yves Ternon, Revue d’histoire de la Shoah, July-December 2005, p. 537)\.

    Remark: At nearly every word, these sentences show that their author is reduced to adventurous speculations. When he dares to express, without the benefit of the least clue, the notion that Hitler perhaps made himself understood “by a silence or an acquiescence”, he is merely taking up the theory of the “nod” (the Führer’s mere nod!) first voiced by American professor Christopher Browning at the Zündel trial in Toronto in 1988. No academic of antirevisionist persuasion has shown himself to be more pitiful and foolish than that shabbos-goy. So true is it that, destroyed by the revisionist victories, the official case has ended up being emptied of all scientific content.

    I’ll add a little more(by myself):

    During the Irving Libel trial, the Dutch Jew, Professor van Pelt, a prominent holocrock guru who had been elevated by the Klarsfelds crooks as the new Auschwitz pope, after the fall from grace of Frenchman J.C.Pressac, admitted:

    “van Pelt (p. 100):
    My first problem was rather straightforward: the evidence for Auschwitz was undoubtedly problematic.”

    In early 2010, van Pelt, in line whith what he had previously written, made another eyebrow raising admission. He stated that there is NO physical evidence to prove ninety nine percent
    of what is ‘known’ about the alleged Auschwitz extermination camp story!

    Professor van Pelt also admitted that the “evidence” for the mass killings of Jews at Treblinka, Sobibor and Belzec—where allegedly millions were murdered–is sparse at best. In reference to these three camps, he wrote: “There are few eyewitnesses, no confession that can compare to that given by [Auschwitz commandant Rudolf] Höss[who was tortured], no significant remains, and few archival sources.”
    Notice he is comparing these alleged ‘pure death camps’ with Auschwitz, for which the evidence is supposed better but yet covers only, by his own admission, 1% of what “we know”. So, how does he know? Answer: He does NOT.
    But re Höss, another holo profiteer maskarading as ‘historian’, Christopher Browning, has admitted that both Eichmann and Höss are unreliable witnesses. In a footnote of a book he writes: that “the testimonies of especially Höss and to some extent Eichmann are confused, contradictory, self-serving, and not credible.”

    Just one last thing;

    Disputing the holohoax will lead to massive slandering and career ruination in those countries where it is at least possible to talk about it, i.e, ZUSA, and fines and jail terms in many EU states.
    Clearly the powers that be do not want their new religion to be scrutinized.

    Disputing Hiroshima/Nagasaki is perfectly fine and will only cause one to be laughed at.

    1. “gas chamber disguised as showers”

      This explains a mystery that has always bothered me: why do Jews smell funny, kind of musty and cheesy (I know they eat lots of dairy foods).

      The reason is that being Jews, they suspect every shower to be a gas vent and avoid it like Jews vampires shrink from crucifix (they really do, I was in Transylvania and tried it, Jews would run screaming, sideburns on fire).

    2. The testimony of Paul Rassinier in his memoir “Debunking the Genocide Myth” really should be broadcast worldwide. Rassinier was an inmate at Buchenwald , survived the war, but was taken aback when several postwar books started the holocaust lies about ‘gas chambers’ at Buchenwald. Rassinier knew this was preposterous and faced down the ‘holocaust industry’ when they objected to his account. In 1980 the so- called at the time ‘survivor industry’ conceded the gas chambers at camps in Germany proper never existed, though they continue to scream “gas chambers!” in Polish camps to this day, though even the European Rabbis have officially admitted the numbers are way less, and of course no one has ever produced a shred of physical evidence. What may be of interest regarding what was going on at the work camps in Poland besides the works I’ve already mentioned are “The Hunt for Zero Point” by Nick Cook (Aviation editor at Jane’s) and most especially Polish military historian Igor Witkowski’s work on the development of the so called wonderweapons in Polish territory, one of the few areas out of range of US and UK bombers. There was a very good reason for Patton’s dash to Czech territory at the war’s very end, though it violated the agreement with Russia, and remains quite classified to this day.

    3. When I was in the RAF in Singapore in the ’50s’ several airmen went out to Christmas Island and witnessed the explosions at very close quarters.

      1. @Charles
        The British also conducted tests in Australia. The French in Algeria and then later at Mururoa in French Polynesia. Although I have never personally witnessed a nuclear explosion I have spoken to several people who have and like yourself they were former military personnel. I have absolutely no reason to doubt their veracity.

      2. @CHARLES, my brother was in the RAF, and was posted to Singapore, but that was in the 70`s. He was a bit of a “hero” at his base in the UK when he observed a fault in a certain type of aircraft, and alerted his superior, thus saving lives..

      3. Before leaving the nuclear topic, I’d like to mention one other interesting event that very few people talk about (never in main stream media) and even more people seem rather blissfully unaware ever happened; I’m referring to the nuclear atmospheric tests performed by the USSR and the US in the 1950’s before the test ban treaty barring atmospheric testing. Specifically, the Prime Argus tests which were officially intended to verify the Christofilos effect, using two missiles with war heads 136-227 kg detonated at altitudes of 200-1,000 miles, and also at 2,000-4,000 miles. Both detonations near the geomagnetic equator. It has been suggested in some quarters that these deliberate (though scientifically ignorant at the time) events that blew holes in the ozone layer (some think possibly irreparable, except in a very long time frame) may have been what started the huge ozone loss we experience today. The NWO crowd seems to hiding this and their attempts at grabbing assets behind ‘climate change’. It may also have some relation to military planes broadcasting classified chemical substances on a routine basis into the upper atmosphere. Any thoughts?

  19. on the other hand – i’d say there’s a real good chance lasha herself is a troll too, especially as she agrees with rivero, who sounds like he’s trying out for fox news. get rid of the shower curtain lasha. let’s see who you really are.
    disinfo is the tactic the security state uses in the aftermath, and maybe even before the event. one thing we all know by now – most of what we’ve been told about the main events is a lie.
    but while we’re on the nuke subject – i do think the bombs were dropped on japan, not because the japs were still a threat but so that the jew/jesuits/masons could set the tone for the cold war, where they consolidated their positions and transferred the wealth from the workers to themselves through the munitions corporations. when in fact there never were any russians or chicoms threatening us. they’re still pushing (lasha) the same old hoax in crimea now, like there’s some kind of contest going on between putin and the west. that’s just for the benefit of the ignorant masses.
    and, nukes were used in viet nam. the veterans’ lawsuit documents were all on file in the murrah building in okc, when the security state pulled that caper. the lawsuit went away with the souls of the victims killed there that day. no federal officers though. timithy mcveigh was probably just another crisis actor. he probably sits fat somewhere in south america with kenny lay, jimmy hoffa and the boys from brazil. and, there is quite a bit of disinfo on nukes in general, according to mathematician bruce cathy. he says they can not be detonated anytime, anyplace like sticks of dynamite. they have to be placed at exactly the right coordinates on the planet’s energy grid at exactly the right time. which, i would bet the israelis have all figured out with sleepers located in the usa now.
    so what’s the moral of the big troll-disinfo story? the moral is – we all need to consolidate in our own locales, working together to preserve or lives and the bill of rights, not believing much of anything the state and media tells us, in fact replacing the commercial media with a genuine information delivery system.

    1. @ barkingdeer

      “I’d say there’s a real good chance lasha herself is a troll too, especially as she agrees with rivero…”

      Two points.

      1. You are misinformed if you think Lasha agrees with everything Rivero says. She is is not even aware what Rivero’s position is on most subjects. She was simply thanking Rivero for posting on this website and agreeing with her that bad, crazy conspiracy theories are chasing out good, plausible ones. If Riverero believes that a plane hit the Pentagon, then Lasha does NOT agree with that. So you are wrong to imply that Lasha agrees with EVERYTHING Rivero says, since she is totally unaware of Rivero’s beliefs on just about every subject!

      2. Your comment that Lasha may be a “troll” and should remove her “shower curtain” reeks of insolence and arrogance. Tell me, sir, where else but on THIS website would you be allowed to be so rude without having your comment deleted and yourself banned permanently from posting? Nowhere else. Be grateful that you have the freedom of speech to barge into our house, spit in our faces, and shit on our carpets. Do not abuse your freedom of speech by thinking your bad manners will be tolerated here ad infinitum.

      1. Besides the insolence, there is also the logical absurdity of accusing the writer of a blog of being a “troll” on his/her own blog!

      2. so, lasha darkmoon is a troll whose goal is to drag lasha darkmoon blog into disrepute.
        the only way to prevent this is for lasha darkmoon to permanently ban lasha darkmoon in order to save lasha darkmoon from undeserved ignominy.
        therefore i will write to lasha darkmoon in order to warn her that …

        immortally fine logic, that can keep spiraling outwards in perpetuity … there ought to be a name for it, how about gotteryammerung.

        when i was led thru kanha wildlife park, among other critturs, the ranger pointed out a barking deer though it was wise enough to keep its mouth shut.
        here is what it sounds like and i must say it makes more sense, toby invite it to post something but under a different handle, maybe therealoriginalbarkingdeer (trobd).


      It is easy to fall in the trap of making disgruntled suggestions about Lasha. After all, TROJ does it on a regular basis – and it’s humorous! 🙂

      Lasha brings us valuable and learned insight into often important
      subjects, and seems to attract some of the most learned and
      articulate people – pro or con – who I have ever read. I, my gullible
      self, learn a LOT from posters, here. It is a joy to check-in here and
      LEARN – or just carry on some banter. It is a unique site, and the
      ONLY one of its kind I visit (due to time and disposition). Be careful with it.

      1. To All Darkmooners On The Side Of “Nukes DO Exist” Controversy :

        Now that we see many Darkmooners are on the side of “Nukes DO Exist” , who amongst you Darkmooners on the side of “Nukes DO Exist” will admit the WTC was NUKED on 911 at GROUND ZERO New York City?

        Note : If you are a Darkmooner who thinks “Nukes Do Not Exist” don’t reply, don’t respond. Stay out of it. My question is an intramural question. A question for those who, like me, know Nukes do indeed exist. A question for those on the same team, NOT a question for the opposing team. Thank you, TROJ.

  20. pAT wrote:
    “But, as usual, age growing, you forgot I had a combat school and trained in Jiujitsu with Rickson Gracie all through the 90s”

    Yawwnnn, pure BS.
    Here r some perls from you Pat:
    “Then, be sure to watch Conor McGregor in UFC. He is the best fighter today.”

    No, he is not, not even closse.

    pat:” He could whip Mayweather … maybe even at boxing.”

    He could if , as an MMA fighter, he managed to take Mayweather down. At boxing, not even Conor together with his clones could beat Floyd. And I ain’t even that big a fan of F.M.

    “Judo Gene’ Lebell may be the toughest guy ever…”

    Buhahahaha, how does one even gauge such a thing, pure BS!
    U have no idea what u r talking about.

    Pat: ‘LeBell was the first professional MMA fighter.’

    Maybe in Zusa, though probably not. Certainly not in the world.

    Pat, you may be able to convince gullible people but I’m in my early 30s and have been involved with martial arts since I was a little kid and started out in Judo.
    No cookie for you, sorry.

    1. Luca – My good friend who knows me so well –

      I started in karate in 1964 and judo in 1970. Jiujitsu in 1980.

      No need to be sorry. Judokas are never sorry. Tougher than that. Jigoro Kano knew that… Proved that.

      More uchikomi is needed for you, sonny. You’ll catch up an a few decades.

      Cookies and green tea all around. 🙂

  21. I’m afraid women aren’t generally any good with science and technology. Lasha Darkmoon describes herself as an Anglo-American ex-academic with higher degrees in Classics who lives and works in England. She is also a poet, translator, and political columnist on various websites.

    In 2008, the idea was new to me; but I was aware of many hoaxes and frauds, for example the Holocaust fraud, and I took the trouble to get involved, and examine DVDs of supposed nuclear tests, which at that time had been recently ‘sanitised’ and cleared for the general consumer market. It was clear enough, for example from single reversed frames included in films to pretend there was a double flash, that the material was faked.

    However, i don’t want to fill up the space of your talented writers, if there are any. is a facsimile of the forum which existed from 2011-2012, exactly a year; you might read up on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. My very long video, Lords of the Nukes, on Youtube is an online three-way conversation which covers a lot of ground, including e.g. the Cuba hoax and how it was done, the trinitite myth, the Trinity supposed test, the ‘Lucky Dragon’ fishing boat, the lack of nuclear power where it might be expected (e.g. Hawaii, Antarctica). If you can take 3 1/2 hours of video – wittily titled after ‘Lord of the Rings’, of equally long parts – it will change your entire worldview. Also, these sites are Jew-aware.

  22. “Here are some FACTS on firebombed cities:

    On March 9-10, 1945, a wave of 300 American bombers struck Tokyo, killing 100,000 people. 1700 tons of bombs were necessary to accomplish this devastation. On May 23, 1945, “520 giant B-29 ‘Superfortress’ American bombers unleashed 4,500 tons of incendiary bombs n the heart of the already battered Japanese capital.” Two days later, on May 25, “a second strike of 502 ‘Superfortress’ planes roared low over Tokyo, raining down 4,000 tons of explosives.” (See here)

    If Hiroshima and Nagasaki had been given the identical firebombing treatment, as the ignorant conspiracy theorists assert, they too would have required hundreds of giant planes dropping thousands of tons of explosives over several days.”
    The math is a bit off – that thousands of tons should read millions of tons. It’s over 20 million tons – 20,400,000 to be exact.
    1 ton = 2,000 pounds

    1,700 tons + 4,500 tons + 4,000 tons = 10,200 tons

    to convert to pounds multiply 10,200 x 2,000 = 20,400,000

    1. Donna –
      “If Hiroshima and Nagasaki had been given the identical firebombing treatment, as the ignorant conspiracy theorists assert, they too would have required hundreds of giant planes dropping thousands of tons of explosives over several days.”

      Not necessarily… But, I guess with the rest here.

      Nagasaki destruction/burning was only 2.7 square miles.
      Hiroshima’s destruction/burning was only 5.0 square miles.

      Many farmers plow that much regularly in the US. They burn it regularly also.

      Forest fires bigger than that get started all the time from a single source like lightning…. even as I write this.

      The fires did not have to be accomplished/set ONLY by planes.

      The people would not realize the difference between clandestine ‘set off’ fire bombs planted on the ground in structures and numerous gas tank explosions all around the cities as the burning was completed.

      Winds help spread the fires no matter the sources.

      1. Pat,

        Excellent analysis and new insights, especially about the very likely on-the-ground sabotage.

        Based on my preliminary analysis of the photographs and film/video evidence on the wiki-page for Hiroshima and Nagasaki “nuclear bomb” explosions, your guess about sabotage is very plausible. (i.e. Hiroshima roads and bridge were not damaged, only sidewalks and bridge railing, which looks like they were knocked over towards the river below, as seen in one of the videos.)

        And believe it or not, telephone poles (due to their wide spacing and distance from the predominantly wooden houses are still intact, if you look closely at this photo:

        Of course, size does matter, and your point about Nagasaki and Hiroshima destruction zones being basically the size of small neighborhoods is crucial in taking apart and understanding this fraud/hoax.

      2. JFC –


        If a group of contractors could plant demolition charges at the WTC with..
        … office workers there as numerous as a ‘red-ant’ bed……
        …they could do it anywhere…

  23. I have always contended that nuclear explosive devices with weights of many tons are possible, but I doubt the existence of mobile nuclear weapons. Below are some little known problems if they were to exist.

    [Whether feasible or not.. the ‘program’ provides another CONTINUOUS ‘black hole’ of debt increases, needed by ‘THE Pharisee system.’]

    The ability to build a “nuclear explosive device” is – NOT – the same as the ability to build a “nuclear weapon.”

    A nuclear device is something which will produce a chain reaction and detonation….. WITHOUT any consideration as to its DEPLOYMENT. It might take fifty days to build, weigh eighty tons and be immobile, but if it detonates…. it’s a nuclear device. Such a device wouldn’t be of much use as a weapon….. BUT would be great for TESTING and experimental purposes in the desert or underground…!!

    Turning a nuclear device into a nuclear weapon is called ‘weaponization.’ THAT has many considerations including managing the size of the device, the mass of the device, the fragility of the device and the – RELIABILITY – of the device.

    There are a number of different components that are required to build a fission weapon. Each present different problems for construction, assembly and maintenance.

    High Explosives… ‘HE’… used in detonation are big trouble. To detonate a nuclear weapon requires some amount of chemical high explosive…. EVEN IN MIRVs..!! Go figger….

    When used in nuclear weapons, the HE must perform to higher than normal specifications. It is not enough for it to just simply detonate, as it might be in a ‘conventional’ weapon… where the user JUST cares that there is a BIG enough explosion to cause some minimum level of damage.

    In the case of the nuclear weapon, the timing and power of these HE pieces must both meet very stringent requirements… NOT just minimums, but particular values. If one piece of HE detonates faster than others, or produces a detonation which differs in power in either direction outside its tolerances, the nuclear detonation can be severely compromised or EVEN PREVENTED.

    HEs are mixtures of chemicals. There are the primary explosives, and maybe some oxidizers and inert additives which are used to produce a substance of a particular mechanical characteristic. ALL of these compounds are subject to possible physical and chemical CHANGES over time. They may also separate and COME APART physically… causing HUGE problems.

    Most conventional weapons deal with high explosive aging by simply requiring disposal and replacement. In the nuclear weapon case, this is not easy or always feasible. Although very stable explosives can be made…. if the weapon does not have provisions for removal and potential replacement of the explosives components its RELIABILITY WILL DECREASE over time. Even if it does provide for this maintenance, care must be taken to produce EXACT – EXACT – duplicates of the explosive components, BOTH in shape and composition…. as the physics of the detonation will be affected by both, and any change from the weapon design specs will likely make such a detonation smaller or PREVENT IT entirely.

    In US nuclear weapons, the actual component which produces the atomic detonation is called the Physics Package. This includes the fissile materials, the initiator, and the HE.

    The fissile materials and the initiator, will cause separate problems besides those of the HE.

    In a basic fission weapon, the fissile core ‘pit’ is usually built of Highly-Enriched Uranium (HEU) or plutonium. There are separate considerations for maintenance. Both of these materials will suffer from oxidation which will change their chemical makeup and….. CHANGE their physical shape… which will AFFECT THE DETONATION physics.

    Uranium and its alloys age in several ways. Like steel, pure uranium “rusts” when exposed to the oxygen in air. It is ALSO corroded by hydrogen. Although nuclear warheads are sealed in airtight metal containers to reduce oxidation and corrosion, the high explosives, plastics, and other organic materials also in the container emit tiny amounts of oxygen, hydrogen, and water vapor that, over time, can cause problems.
    In the case of plutonium, if there is any water moisture in the surrounding air…. even if there is NO oxygen…. the metal will form plutonium oxide (PuO2) on its surface, which is a powder. This is WORSE than it sounds.. it will BURN, on its own..!!

    When plutonium oxide is present, the plutonium is pyrophoric… which means it is subject to spontaneous ignition… oxidation burning but not fissile… when exposed to air. This means that the usual means of reducing oxidation, by keeping it in an inert gas…. such as argon, must be done carefully. Even those inert gases MUST be kept dehumidified.

    One means of minimizing this is to ensure that the weapon core is maintained in a vacuum, but that produces a whole new set of engineering challenges…. especially if the weapon must be maintained for a long period or if it requires periodic maintenance or checks.

    The fissile core itself will produce HEAT from normal radioactive decay.

    A plutonium core, made of Pu-239… the most common fissile isotope used in weapons… will produce around 1.9 Watts per kilogram of material just from regular decay. If the core is sealed inside a weapon casing, this heat WILL BUILD UP over time. Temperatures inside the core therefore cannot be counted upon to remain at SAFE levels even before considering the storage environment of the weapon itself.
    Then…. there are many ELECTRONICS problems.

    In order to detonate, the weapon will require fuzing, arming and detonation signal. Generally, most of these requirements are provided for these days by electronic components.

    Any electronics in the weapon MUST BE HARDENED TO RESIST the ever-present NEUTRON FLUX..!!

    The weapon core will be putting out CONSTANT low-level radiation. These electronic components will REQUIRE testing in a simulated weapon in order to determine their reliability.

    The physics package could be stored separately from the weapon itself, and the weapon’s systems electronics and structure will exist in a much less demanding environment and will remain reliable for longer. It will be easier to test the weapon’s systems without the physics package present, and working on it to replace components will be simple. BUT… this means that the weapon will not be usable without a COMPLEX arming process where the physics package is mated with the weapon. This will make deterrence MORE DIFFICULT, as there is a guaranteed vulnerability WINDOW before the weapon can be used to respond and there is a higher required complexity to be overcome before it can be used.

    The BEST way to handle weapon maintenance problems is to maintain a stockpile of weapons large enough that they can be rotated ‘off alert’ for maintenance on a regular basis. However, for NEW nuclear powers which are limited by their stocks of fissile material, this may not be an option… and cause even bigger problems….

    So… when a new nuclear power produces a nuclear weapon, it must be kept firmly in mind that this weapon has a built-in but UNKNOWN expiration date…. and simply maintaining things as the status quo will not be easy. That weapon’s reliability will drop over time..!!

    That means the strategic situation of that weapon’s existence will change… and it will do so unpredictably and, not verifiable, which is the MOST DANGEROUS situation possible.

    More ‘Shelf-Life’ info:

      1. Thanks – Hope it helped a little.

        I have been working on it since the article was posted. There is way more… but boring and no room here.
        I wanted to stay in realm of mostly physical problems and not the nuclear physics and nuclear chemistry issues.
        I didn’t even touch delivery and telemetry…. and targeting.

        Main point to know = difference between explosive device and mobile explosive weapon.
        And… Testing areas for the ‘devices’….. WILL leave a radiation footprint. Presence of radio-isotopes doesn’t mean ‘weapons’ were tested.

        Nuke explosions sure ain’t like usin’ my grand-daddy’s stump-blowin’ dynamite no more.

      2. @ lobro

        “This is good pat, requires 2nd and 3rd reading.”

        No, it isn’t good! It’s bad. You can read it TEN times and it still doesn’t pass the common sense test! 🙂

        If Pat had taken the trouble to answer Franklin Ryckaert’s objections (which LD quotes in her article), I would have been more inclined to give him some slack. He does no such thing.

        Now here is a comment by Ryckaert that is TEN times more valuable than anything Pat has ever said on this subject and which makes Pat’s pseudo-scientific “guesswork” sound like the pretentious poppycock it is!


        The political implications of atomic bombs being a fraud would be enormous.

        It would mean not only that the US had cheated the world, but also that the UK, France, Russia, China, India, Pakistan and Israel had been cheating the world in a similar way.

        The “treason” of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg would have been a fraud, and they would have been executed for nothing.

        The Israeli whistleblower Vanunu would have been lying also, by “exposing” Israel’s nuclear arms program when no such program existed.

        Israel would also be feigning right now to be concerned about a possible Iranian nuclear bomb, knowing that no such bomb had ever been built.

        As for the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, that too would have been a total fake, with both Khrushchev and Kennedy cynically aware that they were engaged in a bogus argument about non-existent WMD!

        Occam’s Razor would suggest that none of this nonsense is possible.

        Will either of you address these questions? No, you won’t! Because you’ve spent this entire thread dodging them, preferring to play intellectual pingpong instead! 🙂

      3. MB –

        I’ll reply… because you said more controversy was needed on the site….. I aim to please..!! 🙂

        I did not do so earlier… because Franklin states all the time that Jews lie… then HE… uses them as support for an argument. I did not want to validate their lying claims.

        Here ya go:

        The political implications of atomic bombs being a fraud would be enormous.
        Ans – Yep. So they lie… and pay off their UN buddies.

        It would mean not only that the US had cheated the world, but also that the UK, France, Russia, China, India, Pakistan and Israel had been cheating the world in a similar way.
        Ans – They have been cheating the world for centuries. They ALL… use the Holocaust for that too.

        The “treason” of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg would have been a fraud, and they would have been executed for nothing.
        Ans – It helped validate the weapons fraud. They had no problem killing Streicher for nothing.

        The Israeli whistleblower Vanunu would have been lying also, by “exposing” Israel’s nuclear arms program when no such program existed.
        Ans – Yep. Jews lie all the time. They are paid $$$Billions by US Govt and orporations to do so.

        Israel would also be feigning right now to be concerned about a possible Iranian nuclear bomb, knowing that no such bomb had ever been built.  
        Ans – Jews from Israel lie and feign all the time….. Paid to do so. Part of the game.

        As for the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, that too would have been a total fake, with both Khrushchev and Kennedy cynically aware that they were engaged in a bogus argument about non-existent WMD!
        Ans – All leaders lie and use bogus arguments every day.

        Occam’s Razor would suggest that none of this nonsense is possible.
        Ans – Occam’s Razor should include to NEVER believe a government approved assumption…!!

        Stay off the hootch… Ma’am..!! 🙂 🙂

      4. @ Pat

        I’ll say this. Your entire comment in response to Madame Butterfly has a bad smell about it. Do you really think this is likely to please Franklin Ryckaert or MB or anyone else on this site? It is not a rational comment. It is mere insolent posturing. You come across as little better than a boorish thug.

        Surely you can do better than wild “guesses” … and “green tea” … and silly smiley faces that do nothing to hide the ugly scowl on your face?

      5. at this point, what i need you to answer is whether, given all the technological and engineering issues you described, all of those could have been resolved and jammed into a package the size of Fat Man that went into the cargo hold of Enola Gay.

        And if not, why not.

      6. @ madame butterfly,

        lobro, No, you aren’t good! You’re bad. Go stand in the corner!
        but ma’am, i wasn’t drawing smut, this is supposed to be Fat Man!

        i feel like i had my head whacked by a ruler in Grade 1.

    1. pat,
      i am doing my best to try and capture your way of thinking on this.

      you tell us that nukes (meaning, deliverable fission weapons designed and able to go off at a given location at given time with predictable swath of destruction) do not exist and could not have been responsible for hiro-naga devastation.

      then you describe in great detail exactly such weaponry, the design and maintenance problems which, though formidable are surely not insurmountable to a technologically capable society.

      clearly, not only do atomic bombs exist but you yourself have been busy maintaining them, buffing and shining those warheads to a high gloss.

      maybe you are trying to tell us that the reason they don’t exist is because you secretly managed to sabotage them all and they are only good as flower pots.

      1. Moreover, the devices which you describe have clearly been constructed and are presently in existence – in the United States.
        Why would they have been built if they are so huge and unwieldy that they couldn’t be offloaded onto some enemy turf?

        Is their function to just sit there until someday they are fired up to explode within the US territory?
        Maybe Jews like that idea too …

      2. Lobro –

        Thanks for asking… it is really an easy one…

        NASA industrial complex = nuke weapons industrial complex = $$$

        In each industrial complex:
        Problems for space travel studied and duly noted, whether successfully overcome, or NOT.
        Problems for nuke weapons studied and duly noted, whether successfully overcome, or NOT.

        Just the nuke industrial complex spending is now well over $100 BILLION a year:

        Very simple answer to your questions….
        Same Pharisees involved would LOSE $$$ TRILLIONS if either were shut down..!!

      3. okay, that’s a sensible answer, all i am asking for.

        i still have a problem with couple of other points raised, namely,

        the radial destruction pattern in hironaga indicating a singular event, and

        the worldwide cahoots of silence from supposedly fake nuke owner countries, some of them clearly hostile to pharisaic axis, also the surviving victims of hironaga supposed firebombing campaign – not one has spoken out about it (describing fleets of bombers, etc).

        if you can deal with those two, i am willing in principle to go along with no-nukes, actually my preferred scenario (not as preferred as no-jews scenario but something about “hope springs eternal”, i forget and can’t be bothered to look it up).

        and madame barking butterfly stays, i will try to keep her muzzled when you are nearby.
        she can go after me (didn’t say, bite me) all she wants if in need of trashing someone.

  24. The jew claw behind Hiroshima and Nagasaki (which had the largest Christian church, the Urakami cathedral in the entire Orient) :

    ….Who, in Washington, was capable of such a barbarous act? More than one no doubt. But one man stands out above the rest. He was Henry Morgenthau Jr. He was responsible for the diabolical Morgenthau Plan For Peace in post-war Germany. He was close to Roosevelt throughout Roosevelt’s presidency. That was when the plan to drop the bomb was hatched; And the two Christian cities were to be the targets.

    Morgenthau was a prominent Zionist; He was chairman of the American Financial and Development Corporation for Israel; financial advisor to Israel; And chairman of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem…

    1. Rerev –

      I saw a lot there.

      No telling how many people perished from radiation sickness and other ailments like cancers at Los Alamos, while experimenting there.

      Note: In the old days, they did this in deserted canyons and called it “tickling the dragon’s tail”. There aren’t many deserted canyons nearby, but most anyplace in California will do.

      Actually, this is exactly how atomic physics operated during the cowboy stage of World War II in the Manhattan Project to build the Atom Bomb.

      They didn’t have the powerful electronic calculators which came after the war, so they used women, who were called … calculators.

      And they determined the critical mass of the bombs by exactly the method you describe. It was called “tickling the tail of the dragon”, and it was done with a couple of screwdrivers held in the bare hands, working on top of a bare metal lab table in a shed down in a canyon off the mesa at Los Alamos.

      They pushed the hemispheres together till they were close enough to produce the beginning of a chain reaction, which they detected by the blue glow set up in the air around the hemispheres by Cerenkov radiation (ionisation of the air itself). Then they pushed the hemispheres apart with the screwdrivers.

      While having the hemispheres meet would not have produced a true rapid chain reaction and nuclear explosion, it would have produced a meltdown and a chemical explosion from heat and spread huge amounts of radioactive debris.

      After the war, as experimentation continued, it got to be quite a daring sport. At least two workers made mistakes, lost control of the screwdrivers, and died.

      One, Louis Slotin, saved a roomful of colleagues from lethal radiation exposure when he slipped and the hemispheres met, by pusing them apart with his bare hands. He died — nastily — in about five days. All the others lived.

    2. Bless all your hearts ! The whole world is dead and to allow a few to false control the many is really stupid ! The false control base is the crown temple of spiritual death in london PERIOD ! We are here to be free spirits not slaves ! Every con from the rothschilds and their associates is a hoax PERIOD ! Wake up and be free ! Peace and love

  25. since the engineering is so complex and the execution requires such a degree of precision, i conclude that whatever nukes israel possesses are either gift of technologically superior nations like the us, germany, france or russia because jews simply don’t have the required engineering skills.

    they may be okay as theoreticians but no jew on the face of the earth could even do something as basic as change the gasket on a leaky faucet.
    maybe they employ palestinian engineers to build their bombs.
    the same goes for their other arms, most of them proved to be feeble jokes, their tanks, planes and other rustbucketry.

    what they have that functions in need is all imported.

    1. @ Zen

      Thanks for posting that invaluable link. I wish I cold print it out though so as to read it at my leisure and keep it as a reference work. Unfortunately I can’t because of the heavy black shading and printer-unfriendly nature of the article.

      If you happen to be reading this — or anyone else — please do me a favor. Can you copy and paste the entire article in the Comments section OR send it to me as an ordinary email? Not as an attachment please, because I can’t print it out with all that heavy black background.

      My address is

      Many thanks,


  26. @LD

    J. Robert Oppenheimer [American Jew] – Scientific Director – Project “Y”
    Frank Oppenheimer [American Jew] – Brother of and Assistant to J.
    Robert Oppenheimer
    Albert Einstein [German born Jew] – Consultant to the Project
    Niels Bohr [Danish born Jew] – Consultant to the Project
    Leó Szilárd [Hungarian born Jew] – Group Leader – Metallurgical Laboratory
    Nicholas Kürti [Hungarian born Jew] – Worked with
    Franz Eugen Simon [German born Jew] and developed a method of separating uranium 235 from raw uranium ore
    David Bohm [American Jew] – Performed theoretical calculations for the Calutrons at the Y-12 facility in Oak Ridge, used to electromagnetically enrich uranium for use in the bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945
    Rudolf Peierls [German born Jew] – British Mission
    Felix Bloch [Swiss born Jew] – Worked under Hans Albrecht Bethe, performing nuclear fission research
    Eugene [Paul] Wigner [Hungarian born Jew] – Group Leader Metallurgical Laboratory
    James Chadwick [British born Jew] – Chief – British Mission
    James Franck [German born Jew] – Director – Chemistry Group
    Otto Frisch [German born Jew] – British Mission
    Edward Teller [Hungarian born Jew] – Thermonuclear Research
    Emilio Gino Segrè [Italian born Jew] – Group Leader
    Hans Albrecht Bethe [German born Jew] – Chief – Theoretical Division
    Klaus Fuchs [German born Jew] – Theoretical Division [Communist Spy]
    Richard Phillips Feynman [American Jew] – Group Leader – Theoretical Division
    Morris Kolodney [American Jew] – Manager – DP Site
    Louis Rosen [American Jew] – The “Father” of the Los Alamos Neutron Science Center
    Louis Slotin [Canadian born Jew] – Critical Testing – resulted in his accidental death
    Jacob Beser [American Jew] – Weapons firing and fusing
    Theodore Alvin Hall [American Jew] – Youngest Scientist at Los Alamos
    Samuel T. Cohen [American Jew] – Worked in the Efficiency Group
    Samuel Goudsmit – [Danish born Jew] – Scientific Head of the Alsos Mission
    George Placzek – [Moravian born Jew] – British Mission
    Eugene Rabinowitch – [Russian born Jew] – Metallurgical Laboratory
    Joseph Rotblat – [Polish born Jew] – Worked with James Chadwick [Communist Spy]
    Gregory Breit – [Russian born Jew] – Predecessor of J. Robert Oppenheimer
    David Greenglass [American Jew] – Manhattan Project Infiltration [Communist Spy]
    George Abramovich Koval [American Jew] – Special Engineer Detachment [Communist Spy]
    Victor Weisskopf [Austrian born Jew] – Theoretical Division
    Alvin Martin Weinberg [American Jew] – Theoretical Physics under Eugene [Paul] Wigner
    Isidor Isaac Rabi [Polish born Jew] – Consultant to the Project
    Stan Frankel [American Jew] – Theoretical Division
    Enrico Fermi [Italian born Gentile] was married to a Jewess – Group Leader – Theoretical Division

  27. The Inventors of the Atomic Bomb: ALL JEWS

    A Jewish Gift to Humanity: The Nuclear Nightmare

    The above is only a partial list. The total number of the Jews involved is staggering
    and shocking and the list below is incomplete, due to time restrictions. The list
    below contains the most noted Jewish scientists who worked directly on the
    Manhattan Project. Nearly all of the individuals on the list below were hard-core
    Communists; many more were spies, who gave the formula for the atom bomb to
    the Soviets. Upon researching, I was appalled at how the authors [mostly Jews],
    who wrote articles and biographies of the individuals below, portrayed these
    mass-murderers in a very positive light, exalting many to a hero status. Feel free
    to do your own research given the information contained on this website.
    Below is a partial list of Jews who were directly involved in the Manhattan
    Project. There were many more Jews involved at all levels of researching,
    constructing, and advocating the use of the atomic bomb than can be listed here

    The first atomic bomb was designed and constructed in Los Alamos, New
    Mexico. The top-secret code name given to this working was “The Manhattan
    Project.” The reason for the name was that Bernard Baruch [Jew], lived in
    Manhattan New York, as did many of the other top officials. The chief scientist of
    the Los Alamos Laboratory from 1943 to 1945 was J. Robert Oppenheimer,
    another prominent Jew. Oppenheimer’s brother Frank, a card-carrying
    communist, was also a leading atomic scientist working at Los Alamos.
    “One of the central figures in not only laying the theoretical ground work but also
    persuading President Roosevelt to launch the whole atomic bomb program was
    Albert Einstein, a foreign-born Jew with 16 communist front affiliations.”
    “The first commissioner of the Atomic Energy Commission was David E.
    Lilienthal, a Jew, who belonged to at least two communist fronts. He remained in
    that position for a considerable length of time.” 1

    Niels Bohr [Danish born Jew], given the Nobel Prize in 1922, escaped Denmark
    in 1943. “In September 1943, reliable word reached Bohr about his imminent
    arrest by the German police; the Danish resistance quickly managed to help Bohr
    and his wife escape by sea to Sweden. Soon after, Bohr was flown in a military
    aircraft to Britain. There he was introduced to the then-secret atomic bomb
    project. Eventually he was directed to the project’s principal location in the United
    States of America. Bohr worked on the Manhattan Project at the top-secret Los
    Alamos laboratory in New Mexico, where he was known by the name of Nicholas
    Baker for security reasons.” 2

    Leó Szilárd [Hungarian born Jew] born in Budapest, assisted Enrico Fermi in
    conducting the first controlled nuclear chain reaction.
    Nicholas Kürti [Hungarian born Jew: Kürti Miklós] and Franz Eugen Simon
    [German born Jew who fled to Britain after Hitler came to power] discovered how
    to separate uranium-235 from uranium ore, which was necessary for the
    construction of an atomic bomb. 3

    “It is of utmost significance to point out that both atomic bomb and hydrogen
    bomb were in large measure a Jewish production. But basically the atom bomb
    and its further proliferation, is a Jewish idea. One of the central figures in not only
    laying the theoretical groundwork but also persuading President Roosevelt to
    launch the whole atomic bomb program was Albert Einstein, a foreign-born Jew
    with 16 communist front affiliations.”

    “It was at this time that most of the Atomic secrets were stolen and passed on to
    the Soviets. When it comes to listing the spies and traitors involved, it almost
    reads like a Jewish Who’s Who. The most notorious were Julius and Ethel
    Rosenberg, who were tried and executed for treason, the only traitors in modern
    U.S. history to have suffered this fate. Further involved in this spy network were
    Harry Gold, Abraham Brothman, David Greenglass, [Ethel Rosenberg’s brother],
    Israel Weinbaum, Miriam Moscowitz, Sidney Weinbaum, Morton Sobell. All these
    were Jews, and all were convicted of treason. It is also significant in the further
    development of the hydrogen bomb, again Jews were in the forefront, such as J.
    Robert Oppenheimer, Steve Nelson [real name Joseph W. Weinberg] and
    Edward Teller.”

    “To get on with the crux of our dissertation, namely the commercial and industrial
    proliferation of nuclear wastes in the United States, which more than any other
    issue hangs as an ominous pall over our heads. It threatens to bring death,
    cancer, leukemia, and birth defects to the mass of the population, and, in fact,
    exterminate humanity itself.”

    “It is of utmost significance to point out that the Jewish network, has kept close
    control of the development and proliferation of this most devastating of all
    technical achievements – nuclear fission and nuclear fusion.” 4

    1 Ben Klassen, Racial Loyalty issue 27, Creativity Movement
    2 Wikipedia article on Niels Bohr
    3 International Council for Science (ICSU) Committee on Data for Science and
    Technology CODATA Newsletter Number 79 March 1999
    4 Ben Klassen, Racial Loyalty issue 27, Creativity Movement

    1. Zen,

      Many thanks for taking the trouble to send me all these details. I am deeply grateful. This is just the material I have been looking for, and by a weird coincidence it comes to me at just the right time. How strange. There’s a word for it: “serendipity”. Or is it “synchronicity”? Not quite sure…could be either. 🙂


    2. @Zen

      It is of course no coincidence that almost all individuals connected with the invention of the most destructive weapon that can be made out of physical matter were Jews. Knowing their DEMONIC nature that comes as no surprize.

      Here is a picture of the eyes of Edward Teller, father of the hydrogen bomb. What speaks out of those eyes (and eyebrows!) is pure demonic evil :

  28. LD –

    I can help you….

    When you need to print anything written on a dark background, do this:

    Highlight what you want

    Copy and paste to an office document like Word

    Go to ‘Edit’ and click ‘Select All’

    Go to ‘text’ coloring icon and select the color… like ‘black’

    I always go to ‘font’ and select ‘Arial’ then ‘size’ 12 or 14

    THEN… ‘PRINT’….

    Grab a fork… You beez DUNN…!!

    My fee… shut MB up.. or down. Your choice… 🙂

    1. @ Pat

      Thanks, Pat. I must remember all these details. Unfortunately, I am almost computer illiterate and can just about manage to do the bare essentials.

      In regard to MB, please try and understand that MB is not the lady who is “dressed in blue”. That’s me! I am the lady dressed in blue, as everyone knows. Your conflation of MB and me was entirely wrong, just as your conflation of Ellie K and the TV scriptwriter Alex Katsnelson was entirely wrong. You had the good sense and honesty to admit later on that you were wrong to identify Ellie K and this Jewish TV scriptwriter as the same person, and maybe you will admit that you were equally wrong to suggest that MB and I are the same person. Take it from me that I am NOT MB! I barely have time to post on the site under my own name (LD), so why on earth would I waste my time assuming ELEVEN different personas (according to “Avatar)?

      As far as I’m concerned, you are one of our best posters and I don’t mind at all that you take a contrary line from me on several issues. Why should I mind or want everyone to agree with me? If that were the case, how come I am attacked most of the time? Joe has some pretty bad things to say about me, so does Ellie K. I am used to abuse. Its all par for the course.

      Since you feel so badly about this MB character, I will write to her personally and ask her to leave you alone. If she doesn’t, I will get Toby to ban all her future posts. I note she has been getting on New Song’s nerves also and Tyron Parsons left the site because of her. The last thing we want is to lose good posters because of one persistent pest with personality problems.

      Take care, Pat. And continue to post freely, letting us have your honest opinion on all issues!


      1. LD –

        Duly noted. You might be the only one here who caught the inferences.(maybe the dean of the math dept did)
        I shall stop it immediately.

        The flighty ‘MB entity’ ran off RO also.
        But she did say, “I’ve learned much from Pat and admire his imperturbability….”
        So, I don’t ‘hate’ the ‘MB entity’… just need you to get a big swatter or net.

        Look.!! Great poetry elicited here:
        “Take it from me … that I am NOT MB!”

  29. So, after considering the practical challenges and the guarantee that a chain of weak links will fail, Dr. Evil stands up and says “Let’s do what we always do. Let’s don’t and say we did. Call up Michael Rivero and the Canaanite magicians.”

    What would failure after failure have done to their propaganda effort to get their pork barrel projects funded? Those cowards would never dare risk that. There would be failures on top of failures. The public would witness the horrors that come when fools play with fire, and their little pork barrel projects would immediately get the ax. Would YOU step out of a mylar tent onto the moon?

    Their fantasy bomb would first plasmaize and whatever wasn’t plasmaized would be vaporized and whatever wasn’t vaporized would melt. I’m seeing a uniform glass bowl.

    I’d like for Pat to go into those nuclear physics. I have questions about that. In the 6th grade films, we see a scale model of the theoretical atom with a grapefruit in the middle of a football field and some peas in the stands. In the fission film, that scale magically becomes 10 racks of billiard balls on a billiard table and no account at all repulsive force that doubles with every half distance closer.

    It smacks of neinsteinian fantasy mental trekkie masturbations. The limits of science sarted getting ignored at the same time those rhyming names started showing up at the universities. The pioneers of science were strict about writing their formulas according to the hard data. These baal priests do the opposite. They throw in sophistical fudgefactors and formulas out of thin air until they have what they want you to believe.

    The speed of light isn’t constant. Anywhere you see a C, you have an Einstein in the university. That alone nukes their trekkie theories. Light heats up air and any other matter it moves in. Something in the momentum has to give. What, oh what could that be??? Does space heat up? They’ve never seen the universe and never will. Science forbids it. They’ve done to that what they did with Christianity. They’ve turned it into a baal image.

    1. SY –

      Thanks for the notice.

      There is not near enough time or space to even start the nuclear physics anomalies and subsequent guesses involved.

      Just know that some of your assumptions may be valid. Here is an example of their guesses:

      When the physicists could not account for all the theoretical energy loss in a single fission reaction, they invented a name for it….. a NEUTRINO.
      When I took nuclear physics they defined a neutrino as, “That amount of energy equal to a half-thickness of 100 light-years of water.”
      That was worth many hours of laughter at the libation station by all of us students. We called it the ‘fudge factor.’ Just the word made all of us smile for years… but… full speed ahead anyway.

      Today’s neutrino from UC Irvine experts in magic:

      You are correct about light changing speeds. It is NOT ‘constant.’
      I learned this in several physics of light and optics courses…..

      As light travels through different materials, it scatters off of the molecules in the material and is slowed down.

      For some materials such as water, light will slow down more than electrons will. Thus an electron in water can travel faster than light in water. But nothing ever travels faster than c. The amount by which light slows in a given material is described by the INDEX OF REFRACTION, (n). The index of refraction of a material is defined by the speed of light in vacuum (c) divided by the speed of light through the material (v):

      My guess is that they are still guessing everywhere. “Fake it til’ ya’ make it” at all costs.

      1. pat, look at this, it kind of startled me

        For some materials such as water, light will slow down more than electrons will. Thus an electron in water can travel faster than light in water.

        although a physics ignoramus, i dimly recall some of the math underlying the relativity (essentially, the differential geometry developed by Gauss and Riemann and later added to by Lobachevsky and Hungarian father+son team – Caratheodory(?)) and this statement did not go down well so i looked it up

        As you add energy to the electron, it will go faster, but as you get it to go close to the speed of light, you find that you have to add even more energy just to bump it a bit faster. For example, with just over 220,000 eV (which stands for a convenient unit of energy called the “electron-volt”), you can get the electron up to 90% of the speed of light. But to get it to 99.9% (just another 9.9%), you need a total of over 11 million eV! One way of looking at this is that the electron gets “heavier” (more massive) as it goes ever faster. So it’s harder to push it faster. At Jefferson Lab, a typical energy for the electrons in the beam is 4 GeV which is 4 billion eV. That means the electron is traveling at 99.9999992% of the speed of light. Close but still not 100%.

        so, if i got it right, an electron in water only creeps along at 2,200 kps (<1% of c), while given the water's refraction index, water photons are still hauling ass more than 75x faster (ref. index of 1.33).

        But that aside, another thing is out there giving the theorists, especially the relativity guys a major headache, in fact, it messes up the nice concept they developed.
        in order to make 2+2=4, in some tiny, very, very, very so, fraction of a second as the cosmos burst onto scene, it had to have expanded at thousands of times the speed of light.
        otherwise the cosmic background radiation wouldn’t have been nearly as uniform as it is observed and the laws of physics would have been quite bizarre, in fact, would the universe even exist.

        And no universe means No Jews, which would have made G-d cry like a baby tossed into the flames of Moloch’s altar.
        Can’t have that, 6 million aborted Jews.
        (the way things are going, I am not sure that it is not worth it)

      2. Yeah, lobro—

        Many startling revelations in the rabbit holes of theoretical physics…!! As new ones are found they invent new math formulas for them.

        Here is another one…

        Light entering a pane of glass comes in at (v) and travels in glass at (v – x) and comes out at (v). It returns to its original velocity (v)… leaving the glass in a parallel direction, but at an angle offset by the glass.

        I still wonder exactly where it gets the added energy to speed up upon leaving. And it is happening in my living room.
        That’s physics theories for ya’..!!

        Next stop… for $$$ soaking… Planet Mars… already walking in Alps to simulate terrain:

        Space explorers prepare for Mars by wandering the Austrian Alps
        05 August 2015 By Matthias Roeder, dpa

        A glacier in Austria with striking similarities to the Red Planet offers just the right conditions for space explorers to train for a mission to Mars.

        Kaunertal, Austria (dpa) – Every journey has to begin somewhere, so why not begin the exploration of Mars on a European glacier?

  30. @ Pat :

    As you question everything, and don’t believe anything from what’s called “official” sources, you don’t believe any “narratives” from the High Powers of this world, then what is your learned, erudite opinion about the “Heliocentric” model of the Universe? In terms of proving the Heliocentric model mathematically, there seems to be much about the Heliocentric model of the Universe that can NOT be proven with mathematical formulas. There’s much about the Heliocentric model of the Universe that must be taken on faith alone, as the math seems to point to an Earth-Centered Universe. The Heliocentric model of the Universe is in many profound ways more of a faith-based “religion” that must be taken on faith alone then real science, as math doesn’t support the Heliocentric model of the Universe. What say you, Pat, about the “Heliocentric” model of the Universe?

    Thank you I guess for always being so forthcoming in shooting off your mouth to make sure we all know what you think every second of every day. lol.

  31. lobro, you fail to consider that for every rule of physics there’s an exception to the rule. I mean look at Pat for example : Pat can like shoot off his mouth faster than the speed of sound + the speed of light + the speed of a speeding locomotive put together.

  32. @JFC

    I watched the link you pointed to and can’t see what you are getting at.
    First of all, the Christmas Mass was held in the St Mary’s RC church to demonstrate the intent to survive and get on with life as normally as possible, it in no way proves that no A-bomb went off previously.

    Secondly, watch the American GI of Japanese birth who searched for his family in devastated Hiroshima, found his mother still alive but brother suffering from heavy dose of radiation poisoning, they try to save him but couldn’t.

    But most of all, note another detail: there are chunks of ruined buildings left standing, eg, a building facade, everything else gone and what is left looks quite clean and shiny amid the rubble.

    Why aren’t there any scorch marks left by the soot and smoke?
    Look at the video at 6:24 mark (looks like part of the same or another Christian church)

    They are all quite clean, as would have happened had they faced away from the EM blast.

    None of the building leftovers in Dresden share this feature, quite common in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    1. Lobro,

      Thanks for giving me a platform and playing the straight man.

      First off, as everybody seems overly sensitive over this issue, I feel it necessary to make this Disclaimer:

      I mean no disrespect to our gracious hostess Lasha Darkmoon or to this site (which is one of my favorites), but truth does not fear investigation nor rigorous debate.

      Here we go:

      According to Lasha’s source, Dr. Gary G. Kohls: “Most Nagasaki Christians did not survive the blast”. Remember this, because it will be crucial in debunking this nuke fraud.

      Moreover, and with incredible precision, he states the following:

      “The bomb dropped on Nagasaki weighed 10,000 pounds and exploded 500 meters above St Mary’s Cathedral in the Urakami district of Nagasaki. This occurred at exactly 11.02 a.m. while Japanese Roman Catholics were celebrating Holy Mass. It wiped out the entire Christian congregation. These were “boiled, evaporated, carbonized or otherwise disappeared in a scorching, radioactive fireball that exploded 500 meters above the cathedral.”

      If the above is true, why didn’t the Cathedral or even the trees outside the Cathedral also “disappear in a scorching, radioactive fireball”? No one has even attempted to answer this simple question except for Felix who, unbelievably, says you can survive an atomic bomb explosion by being directly under it. Mazel Tov!

      Irrationally, Lasha dismisses my source (YouTube video) as being jewish and therefore suspect because it does not support her belief that nukes exist. But the video in question is in fact a propaganda film promoting the nuke meme—absurdly, I might add, as you will soon find out. Upon closer examination of the video and its content, the nuke story simply implodes upon itself, no pun intended.

      Lobro, as intelligent as you may be, you have been massively ‘cucked’ in this instance. Regarding your statement: “Secondly, watch the American GI of Japanese birth who searched for his family in devastated Hiroshima, found his mother still alive but brother suffering from heavy dose of radiation poisoning, they try to save him but couldn’t.”

      Have another look at the video and listen carefully to what is being said at the 7:54 minute mark:

      For your convenience and reference here is the transcribed passage:

      “Harry learned that on the morning of August 4th, his older brother, Victor, had been within A FEW HUNDRED YARDS [my emphasis] of the detonation. Exposed to the FULL EFFECTS OF THE BLAST [again, my emphasis] he had wandered aimlessly around the city for days…. [Victor not only survived the full effects of an atomic blast, but wandered without food or drink for days in a city that had been totally leveled, if not melted by the mighty atomic bomb is what the crafty kikes want dumb goyim to believe. Truly, we live in the Age and the Culture of Cuckolds indeed!] Harry eventually got his brother to an American hospital in Kobe, but they could do nothing to reverse the effects of the radiation. A few months later, Victor Fukahara died, another victim of the blast.”

      Do I really need to say anymore or ‘nuff said?

      1. JFC,
        I didn’t say survive a nuclear explosion when under it. I said objects would remain upright because they would be within the cone of the shockwave. Please read my posting carefully. I was referring to some documented cases of people surviving conventional explosions. Regarding the radiation sickness most of the victims succumbed after drinking the black rain which fell shortly after the explosion. One other point is the fact that people talk of the instability of HE, however PE or C4, remains completely inert with absolutely no exudation at a temperature range of -55 to +77C. With regard to timing of detonation this is not a problem. The Russians were able to produce the Voitenko compressor in 1964 which requires timing of detonation down to the nano-second. An implosion lens is easy by comparison. The Hiroshima bomb was armed after they took off from Tinian. However they didn’t use an implosion lens but a simple uranium trigger mechanism to achieve critical mass. Also, there were 2 Japanese survivors within 200 metres. They were working in a bank. May I suggest you watch the documentary Hiroshima, put out by the BBC. It was made prior to their being corrupted by the Blair regime or having Jews on their board of governors.
        Off topic, I can understand your animus towards the Japanese. In Hong Kong many of the older generation refer to them as “Law Pak Tau”(turnip heads), that was a derogatory name given them in Cantonese.

      2. JFC,
        Just a quick further comment. Beware of experts, my bomb course instructor was introduced as an expert. His first remark on taking the floor was to say there are no such people. X(ex) is the unknown factor and “spurt”(pert) a drip under pressure. Another handy saying for anyone who has been in the military or police is, “Bullshit Baffles Brains!” Yes, governments lie, but to cover up the no nukes theory would require a planetary conspiracy impossible to keep secret.

      3. JFC,
        Yes, the video is hopeless, glaring propaganda, glamorizing all things American (thus Judaic, since they were firmly in control).
        It is full of sickening cultural racism and condescension of the conqueror for the conquered, rapist for the rapee.
        Just see the part where benumbed Japanese women express their admiration for the GI Joe’s, how “good looking” they are as they put their arms around them possessively, fingers poking here and there like bought cattle.

        But all that aside, I gave you the exact video link, at 6:24, here it is again.

        Tell me what you see and explain it.
        What caused the obvious destruction?
        If it was fire, why are the standing parts of that church in pristine, whitewash color?

        I am sure you have seen the aftereffects of a house or building fire, Vancouver has had its share of them – so what gives?

        As for the rest, Felix explained it better than I could, nothing to add.

        After all, I said several times already, I don’t have a personal stake in this argument, it would suit me perfectly fine if the mobile nukes did not exist.
        I just can’t see it as a plausible state of affairs, more like wishful thinking.
        It reminds me of those saying that Jews have nothing to do with it, blame the Vatican Illuminati in the Buckingham Palace for the world’s ills (eg, Barry Chamish, a Jew who claims that this is what the Rothschilds are and Israel is their prison colony for Jews – how do you like that “conspiracy” theory?).

    2. @ Lobro

      Newsflash: the photographs of the mushroom clouds are FAKE, but why bother proving it to you if you insist on being a CUCK?

      You now concede the ‘pro-nuke-exists’ video was Jewish propaganda (i.e. all lies or mostly lies), but you still won’t concede you’ve been duped.

      Mark Twain said it best: “It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”

      Most Darkmooners know that WWII was a Rothschild orchestrated event. But they won’t even consider the possibility that the atomic bombs were fake; why not? How typically and foolishly goyish is that? No wonder goyim is ruled by kikes and the goys are so stupid they don’t even know it.

      But know this: the kikes think long-term, and always from one war to the next; everything is pre-planned and well-planned years and decades and even centuries in advance.

      How convenient that the japs were vaporized by the atomic bombs and hence no forensic proof or even photographs of the 200,000-plus corpses?

      If kikes are capable of inventing a horror story about jews being gassed at Auschwitz and Treblinka, why don’t you think they are also capable of inventing a horror story about japs being nuked at Hiroshima or Nagasaki?

      Do you really believe the Americans had to invent the atomic bomb in order to win WWII? Get serious!

      The Manhattan Project cost 2 billion dollars in 1945! Pause for a second or two and think about how much money that was in 1945. Where did the 2 billion dollars come from, when America and its people were suffering from war-time shortages and austerity?

      Needless to say the 2 billion dollars was underwritten by the Federal Reserve as DEBT owed to kikes, to be paid for by the stupid Americans and their offsprings in perpetuity.

      Surprise of surprises, all the “top scientists” who built the atomic bomb were kikes. The invention and detonation of atomic bombs consequently but inexplicably leads to a 45-year Cold War with our former ally and kike-controlled Soviet Union almost immediately after the Second World War. Mazel Tov!

      As Holmes famously said to Watson, I respectfully say it to you, my dear Lobro: It’s really very ELEMENTARY. In order to understand what is really going on, follow the money trail and ask yourself this simple question: Qui Bono? Who benefits?

      Who has benefited from nukes?

      No nukes = No $$$$$ for the kikes.

      No Nukes = No Sampson Option for the kikes.

      No Sampson Option = No Israel.

      Nukes and WMDs are nothing but Jewish Memes to scare and rob goyim shitless and blind!

      1. @ Justice For Chinese

        An excellent comment but unfortunately marred by the use of racist language. You use the work “kike” SEVEN times. Is this necessary? You are not under any obligation to follow the rules and regulations of our website, but we would like you to give serious consideration to our stated wishes.


        6. Politeness to Admin and to other posters on this website, while desirable, is not essential. Defamatory statements and malicious lies about people in the public eye are not allowed for legal reasons. Racist terminology like “nigger”, “kike”, “yid”, “wog”, and “Chink” should be avoided as much as possible because such abusive language lowers the tone of intellectual discourse and gives our website a bad name.

  33. I would like to point out, if I may, that those who tell us NASA lies about everything, like Pat tells us NASA lies about everything, are in effect saying that the earth is not round or pear-shaped or in any way spherical. They are in effect saying that the “Heliocentric” model of the Universe is false. They are, in a sense, a type of “flat-earthers”. I don’t know if Pat and the others who make the claim “NASA lies about everything” realize that they are, in effect, denying the “Heliocentric” model of the Universe.

    Those who claim “NASA lies about everything” make a lot of very excellent points. I don’t disagree with those who claim NASA lies about everything. I’m just wondering if those making the claim realize that their claim “NASA lies about everything” also profoundly throws the whole “Heliocentric” model of the Universe into question, into deep doubt.

  34. It’s quite amusing to see the woodwork start heaving. The principal site remains and there is a site searcher; feel free to look up Slotin, Hungarian Jews, trinitite, Oppenheimer, Spaatz, Cherwell, the Annapolis, the relation between ‘brainwashing’ and Korea, Stalin and supposed H bombs, LBJ and actions against blacks, Bikini, the supposed ‘rainbow bomb’, supposed nuclear subs, and the rest of the absurdities. In the long term it’s nothing. It’s disappointing that ‘LD’ has so little purchase on the issues. I hope her classics work is better.

  35. Can I just reply to a few of these comments.
    [1] Indeed, if my enemy would try to intimidate me by bluffing, saying that he possesses a terrible weapon and if I knew that it was a hoax, I would simply expose his hoax and not engage in similar bluffing which my enemy would also know is a hoax. – Franklin Ryckaert. You haven’t understood that Jews have a system overarching single countries. Jews in the USA pretended they had a nuclear weapon; Jews in the USSR co-operated, and rigged up pretend spies, pretend leaks etc, all revealed in Jewish publications. The root of this mistake is assuming that (say) the USA was the ‘enemy’ of Germany without noticing Jews behind the scenes in all major countries with their own agenda. If my enemy bluffed me by saying Jews funded my weaponry, I’d simply expose him by saying Jews fund my weaponry, something obviously ridiculous. But it isn’t ridiculous.
    [2] Japan: in fact the Japanese knew all along the were no atom bombs: they had to be told. There was complete censorship in Japan; and then a propaganda campaign world-wide once the supposed effects had been decided. Hersey’s free edition of the New Yorker illustrates this; so do other few reports by ’embedded’ ‘journalists’ sent to Japan. I’ve heard, though I don’t know Japan well enough to confirm this, that Japanese often tell Americans there were no nukes there, but of course the simple Americans refuse to believe them.
    [3] Radiation stories: most people here don’t seem to realise how difficult it is to detect atomic radiation. We still have alpha, beta and gamma rays; there are also neutrons, which are hard to detect, since they aren’t deflected by charges. This means anyone can claim there’s radiation; whether there is or not. Anyway, reports from Hiroshima show every possible claim, from extreme radiation and genetic damage, down to no effect whatever. These are all official reports; unfortunately technicians and scientists are easy to buy–e.g. that Jewish archaeologist with her recent fake Holohoax reports in Britain. The truth is there was no radioactivity at all.
    [4] Firebombing and fleets of planes: Tinian is a large island, the size of Manhattan Island, and there were at least two entire crews operating independently. The claim there was a single plane is often repeated, but is wrong.
    [5] New styles of nuclear weapons, 9/11: it’s impossible to be certain of this, but the fact that fission never worked suggests this is pure Jewish BS. For example, the idea that WTC buildings were nuked seems to be a deliberate invention to try to cover up Giuliani (or Guiliani? Who cares about the shit) and the shipping away of all the metal bits to prevent them being examined. Because they would show the typical effects of thermite or thermate melting. There were still some uprights left in the foundations clearly shaped. NB skyscrapers are built with ultimate demolition in mind: because of the problems of taking them down, I’m told (I haven’t checked) that they have built-in charges at the time of building. Makes sense. But modern techniques with timing, using microprocessors, must have obsoleted much of that. Precision timing was needed and was obviously used.
    [6] Little Boy, Fat Man design: in FirstClassSkeptic has made a lot of progress in examining films of these so-called bombs, their aerials, and so on. NB at the time, the high-level jet stream in the atmosphere was not known; for this and other reasons the comments about ‘aiming for a church’ are laughable. There was only a 50% chance of even hitting Hiroshima.
    [7] Cuba, Duck and Cover, ‘nuclear submarines’, ‘ICBMs’, Bikini, Stalin and the ‘Tsar Bomb’ and the possible murder of Stalin just after that non-event, ‘rainbow bomb’ – all these things plus NASA’s fake moon landing (with untested equipment) are all in and can be found by the search feature. If you have no attention span, you won’t need to be told not to bother.
    Nuclear Power: both the ‘dumpload’ and ‘underground toxic storage’ hypotheses are possible. But again I recommend readers with genuine interest poke around in By the way note the sections on ‘Exit Strategies’: if you’re on the tiger of lies, how do you get off? It’s possible Fukushima was caused by a dumpload running out of water and flashing into steam; it’s possible it was deliberate, so they could phase out supposed nuclear power. Note that maps of radiation from Fukushima are computer-drawn, not even measured! It’s a truly amazing story, and of course electricity remains mainly generated from coal (or oil, or gas, maybe orimulsion).

    1. @ Rerevisionist

      You can have such a “Mutual Bluffing Game” only in countries that are totally under Jewish control. You might argue that the US and the Soviet Union are/were such countries, but you can’t convince me that India and Pakistan (both with negligible Jewish populations) are/were such countries. Besides, what would be the benefit for the Jews to set up such a game on the Indian subcontinent? And what about China and North Korea? Do the Jews also control those countries? Apart from the scientific reasons (which I cannot debate due to my ignorance) your theory requires a belief in an almost mythical power of the Jews over most of the world. Some people call that paranoia.

      Anyway, reports from Hiroshima show every possible claim, from extreme radiation and genetic damage, down to no effect whatever.

      That could be explained by the position of the victims at the place : at the centre or at the periphery.

      If nuclear bombs don’t exist, then mini-nukes don’t exist either. There are however indications that mini-nukes were used on 9/11 in New York. Here is a picture of molten granite rock under the WTC. Just compare the sheer size of the molten rock with the people. Now try to explain that by ordinairy fire!

      For a discussion about mini-nukes on 9/11 at Veterans Today, go to :

    2. @ Rerevisionist

      RE: “[2] Japan: in fact the Japanese knew all along the were no atom bombs: they had to be told. There was complete censorship in Japan; and then a propaganda campaign world-wide once the supposed effects had been decided. Hersey’s free edition of the New Yorker illustrates this; so do other few reports by ’embedded’ ‘journalists’ sent to Japan. I’ve heard, though I don’t know Japan well enough to confirm this, that Japanese often tell Americans there were no nukes there, but of course the simple Americans refuse to believe them.”

      My central thesis as a Revisionist Historian is that Japan in the modern era has never been anything more than cannon fodder and an expendable pawn in the centuries-long jewish Geo-political chess game of containing and controlling both Russia and China.

      As for crypto-jew/jap Emperor Hirohito’s complicity in the Nuke SCAM, consider the following circumstantial but critical evidence:

      Emperor Hirohito was never tried as a War Criminal. Hirohito was allowed to remain on his throne, albeit as a puppet paraded to promote the Jew’s “democracy” in Japan, of course, especially just after the end of WWII.

      In 1989, Hirohito died and was succeeded by his son, Akihito, the current Emperor of the Chrysanthemum Throne. In other words, the Jap Throne was never abolished!

      Does anyone here find that bizarre, especially American readers at DM who had parents or grandparents killed by the japs at Pearl Harbor and or in the Pacific Theatre?

      Mussolini was publicly lynched; Hitler off-ed himself in his bunker; all the top “Nazis” were tried and executed at Nuremberg; but the most despised enemy of them all, the barbaric japs got to keep their dirty little Emperor. WTF!?

      Something is really rotten in the state of Nippon; can’t you dumb CUCKS smell the stinking conspiracy?

      1. But Hitler did survive the war, and he was allowed by the Allies to “escape” to Argentina, with the help of the jew Catholic Church of course, lol. And not all the top VIP Nazis were tried at Nuremberg. Many Nazis were brought to the USA [operation paperclip, remember? and other NAZI VIPs were allowed to go to the Soviet Union, remember? ] So how do we know for sure that was really Mussolini who was hanging in front of that gas station in Milano? Fact is : We really don’t know for sure, we can only guess, lol. Maybe that guy hanging in front of that gas station in Milano was just a Mussolini doppelganger, lol, and the real Mussolini made his way down South America way, back into the arms of his Margherita !!

        If we’re going to question everything, we might as well question if Mussolini was really caught and executed. Maybe that really wasn’t him hanging in front of that gas station in Milano? Maybe it was a Mussolini look-alike/doppelganger? Who knows? Nobody knows, nobody knows anything. There’s no way we can know anything, lol. We will always know nothing while taking guesses in the dark dark dark blackness of an eternal moon less black night. AND as there’s no way we can know anything, then even our guesses are for shit as our guesses are not based on knowing anything, for we can’t truly know anything, lol. So why even bother guessing? Might as well just relax kick back and du some kanev bosem. Maybe BMan is right after all, who knows? Well, no body knows, lol. I guess Pat just LERVS to make guesses based on knowing nothin’ ’bout nothin’, lol.

      2. The Japanese venerated their emperor as a God. Therefore they they were prepared to surrender only on the condition that the status of the emperor remained unchanged. The Americans insisted on unconditional surrender but decided not to dethrone the emperor. He had however to declare publicly that he was not divine, which he did. The emperor was only a figurehead. Before and during the war Japan was ruled by militaires. The emperor was not punished because he was not really guilty of anything, but high ranking militaires and government officials were tried at the Tokyo tribunal. The idea that the Japanese imperial family is Jewish is ridiculous in the extreme.

      3. JFC – –

        “Oooops..!”….. said Dr. Oyabe in 1929:

        Japanese Author Traces Nippon Origin to Hebrew Race
        August 15, 1929

        The origin of the Japanese is traced to the Hebrew race by Dr. Jenichiro Oyabe, author of “Origin of Japan and the Japanese.”

        “The book was placed on the market this spring and has already gone to the sixth edition. Dr. Oyabe presented volumes to the Emperor, the Empress and the Empress Dowager. The books were immediately accepted by the Imperial Household Department and placed before the Imperial Family.”


        “Togarma, Armenia, in which Mt. Arrarat is situated, is the Takamakahara, from which the ancestor of the Japanese race is said to have descended. Takamagahara means the Plain of High Heaven. The ‘Arme’ in Armenia means heaven, and the ‘nia’ means place.”

      4. @Pat

        The Japanese are racially a mongolian people, their language is akin to Korean and both are related to the Altaic group of languages, which comprises Turkish, Mongolian and Tungus. There is no relation at all with the ancient Israelites, except perhaps in the mind of some confused hobbyists, a kind of people that from time to time harasses this website meant for serious people.

      5. JFC –
        Franklin –

        It seems Dr. Jenichiro Oyabe was quite a professional, not a hobbyist, with his research at colleges like Yale and Howard University.

        It turns out that there are some ancient connections between the Mid-Eastern and Khazarian and Japanese peoples, when DNA testing was used.

        Japanese Royalty may have Khazarian bloodlines.


        “The Aryan or Indo-Iranian landscape in Japan”

        Y-DNA D (with the YAP+ alleles) in great abundance among the Japanese. And they are found among the Arab Yemeni and Israeli Druids, in the Kalasha (who say they are descended from Alexander the Great, the Macedonian) who live in the Hindukush valley, as well as in tribal Yunnan along with Xinjiang, in the Southwest of China were the receiving point for many groups from the West.

        We also find among the Japanese royal and elite historical clans traces of N and Q and R1b1b haplogroups which may suggest a migratory history to some extent in common with Hunnic (Mongol-Turk?) lineages of the Ashina, Khazaria and Getae-Rajput peoples.

        Y-DNA haplogroups of proto-Turks are N and Q. 800 BCE Ural-Altay languages speaking Turks occupied Central Asia and assimilated some of the R1b and R1a (Caucasian? Tocharians, Sogdians etc.) In the meantime they were also mixed with C3 and O haplogroups due to their relations with Mongol and Chinese people.
        So, when Oguz tribes migrated to Anatolia they were already formed by Q, N, C3, O, R1a, R1b. In addition to these groups today Turkish population includes J1, J2, Anatolian R1b, R1a, G, E1b.

      6. “The idea that the Japanese imperial family is Jewish is ridiculous in the extreme.”

        couldn’t agree more. i have a japanese wife. she laughed when i asked her if she was jewish. just because some idiot’s written a book or article about japanese race being jewish doesn’t mean its true. its disinfo. but there’ll always be idiot somewhere who believe the disinfo they read. lots of idiots on this site spreading disinfo.

      7. Gori –

        I know what you mean about wives not knowing about the Royal bloodlines of their own countries.
        It is not the first time.
        It happened to me too….
        My wife’s family originated in England. She laughed when I told her a few years back that Britain’s Royal family, Windsors, were Germans…. who took the name Windsor to hide their roots due to WWI.

        King George V replaced the German-sounding Saxe-Coburg-Gotha with that of Windsor during the First World War.

        Official website of Monarchy:

      8. @ Franklin
        @ Gori
        @ Justice For Chinese
        @ Pat

        I wonder how much jewish money it took to convince Oyabe to write his fiction that might help substantiate the jewish lies that some consider history? I wonder if he worked for less than Scofield of Scofield Study Bible fame?

        Always be suspicious of articles that cleverly use the words “may”, “could”, “might”, etc. in a way that is intended to give credibility to illogical, outlandish propaganda. If the source is the JTA, there is no need to look for the key words, just don’t click on the link to avoid absorbing misinformation.

        If the links that Pat has posted were true on this topic, the Hebrews would have to be considered the most prolific copulators in history. Is there anyone they did not screw? They must have had fleets of “love boats” or “love caravans” for sexual excursions to far lands and islands to spread their seeds. If they were copulating with everyone in the world, how did they have time to guarantee “racial” integrity by inbreeding according to their fictional history? If all of this seems dumb, congratulations are in order for using brain matter for something besides hair fertilizer.

        All dynasties, ruling families, etc. consider themselves more special, sometimes gods, and better than everyone else, not because of who their parents had sex with, but because they are mentally ill. These types of people are all very capable of rotten behavior toward their fellowman because of their superiority complex that makes all underlings mere animals to be exploited and killed. The only thing that keeps them from not being considered jews is that they didn’t get mentioned in the jewish fictional history book of specialness. Otherwise, they are the same kind of assholes no matter where they are on the planet or what color their skin is.

    3. @ Rerevisionist

      Along the way, the (Manhattan) project absorbed its earlier British counterpart, Tube Alloys. The Manhattan Project began modestly in 1939, but grew to employ more than 130,000 people and cost nearly US$2 billion (about $26 billion in 2015[1] dollars). Over 90% of the cost was for building factories and producing the fissile materials, with less than 10% for development and production of the weapons. Research and production took place at more than 30 sites across the United States, the United Kingdom and Canada.

      Source : Wikipedia, Manhattan Project.

      And you want us to believe this all was done for a hoax? I would know cheaper ways to do a hoax!

  36. [1] Franklin Ryckaert You can have such a “Mutual Bluffing Game” only in countries that are totally under Jewish control. You might argue that the US and the Soviet Union are/were such countries, but you can’t convince me that India and Pakistan (both with negligible Jewish populations) are/were such countries. India and Pakistan are both poor countries Along come Prof Schiessman and Dr Shekelstein, offering to a very small group of supposed nuclear physicists, educated in the USA, lifelong money. It worked in Britain; why not there? Do yourself a favour and look at videos of supposed Indian and Pakistani nuclear tests. And Chinese for that matter. Take a sceptical stance.
    [2] Justice for Chinese: An interesting thread on nukelies is that Japan was caught between a bushido/ Samurai/ Emperor etc ‘culture’, and a modern money making ‘culture’. Firebombing of their cities was in effect land clearance, opening the way for Japanese corporations. An historical comparison is the ‘great fire’ of London, clearing the way for the new Jewish ‘Bank of England’. Check it out.
    I get so few clicks from darkmoon’s site I doubt I’ll bother to reply. Life is short; stupidity is too damn long

  37. FRANKLIN RYCKAERT is obviously correct about the Japanese.
    Any person with half a brain only has to look at the various recent genetic studies to see how idiotic it is the notion of jews and japanese being related.
    BTW Frank, the Tokyo trials were a bunch of allied cangaroo courts, pretty much like the Nuremberg show trials.

    Re the Jews… I no longer believe the Ashkenazim to be mostly Khazars, there is just simply no evidence for it. Here is what i recently wrote on the matter:

    “I disagree with both the saker and Gilad Atzmon that the Ashkenazim are mostly Khazars and Shlomo Sand proved no such thing. I have his book. Unless a massive scientific fraud has been perpetrated by geneticists of various nationalities, which is something that has not been demonstrated, one should look at the most recent genetic studies on the Jews. Such studies, including autosomal ones, show the Ashkenazim to be an intermediate population, clustering roughly between Europeans and Middle Easterners, with euro admixture mostly from the maternal lines and apparently going back to the ancient world. It would seem to me that the more mobile and well to do jews, such as merchants, bankers, etc, established new communities in Europe(already during Roman republican times) but bc such groups contained more males than females it was necessary, for a while and to a limited extent, to intermarry with europeans. Later the walls were again erected. The studies also show a considerable amount of genetic overlapping between the Ashkenazim and Sephardi and Mizrahi Jewish populations. I believe the khazar theory to be weak. My position is roughly similar to that of David Duke, see:

  38. Of course it is a hoax, created by the same people who created the lolohoax, and just as easy to grasp.

    [1] First off, the gang who “invented” this nuke bomb was packed with jews.

    [2] Almost all the reports we have on Hiroshima and Ngasaki came from these military controlled sources:

    United States Atomic Energy Commission
    United States Strategic Bombing Survey
    The British Mission to Japan
    The Joint Commission for the Investigation of the Atomic Bomb in Japan.
    The Naval Technical fission to Japan.

    Wilfred Burchett, “journalist” who wrote the first report from Hiroshima.
    David Goodman, “independent journalist” and co-author of “The Exception to the Rulers.”

    [3] Some comments on the relevant photos here:

    2) Notice all the sheds in Hiroshima before the attack. Mostly made of wood and paper.

    8) Looks like the sun is shining on the top of the smoke plume. Shouldn’t be possible if the attack was at 8:15 in the morning.

    9) Flimsy roof standing there, and still tiny branches on the trees. Wouldn’t have survived a hurricane, but the reported nuke blast didn’t take them out.

    10) Ground Zero. Where is the crater? The gigantic smoke plume rose to 40000 feet and must have consisted of materials from GZ, but we cannot tell from where. How many buildings with a flat roof still intact? Clean roads. No damage to the waterfront. Standing bridges.

    12) Fake stuff. The shadows don’t line up with where the nuke should have exploded. Simply some staged stuff.

    13) Are the flimsy sheds leftover from the blast, or did they just start rebuilding the city on top of all the radiation we have heard so much about? Undamaged streets.

    15) Building with flat roof standing, and a shed too? No damage to the street. Reporting by scriptwriters.

    17) Some non-burned wooden sheds in Hiroshima undamaged. Firebombs would certainly had an impact here – but they missed.

    20) Overview of GZ with the missing crater and missing traces of a shockwave. Streets ok. Should this enormous blast have blown the streets away too? Not a real dent in the ground anywhere. Lots of sheds burned down.

    21) Really flimsy roof still standing there – unbelievable.

    22) How to leave a shadow above the wheel is what I like to know. Staged stuff – fake as hell.

    27) GZ again, with the missing crater and clean and intact streets and bridges. How many buildings with a flat roof are still intact there? Have in mind that the smoke plume rose to 40000 feet and must have consisted of materials from the ground, but not very much ground is missing here. Looks like GZ was burned straight down.

    29) No damage to the waterfront. Brick smokestack standing. More surviving or unburned sheds to the left.

    30) Brick chimney still standing (I really like that one), while the building burned to the ground. Sheds to the left and chimney and the flat roof survived the reported mega blast, or didn’t burned down after napalm bombing.

    31) Radio tower (?) still standing.

    1. @ El Buggo

      I’m delighted to see that you cite David Icke as an authority of Hiroshima.

      That tells me all I need to know about where you are coming from.

      Do tell us if you think the Lizard Folk were behind the Hiroshima/Nagasaki “hoax”. 🙂

      1. No, I’m quoting Roger DeJardins – the founder of nuke revisionism. Do you have any comments to the substance here? Nothing? You sound like a lolohoax denier?

      2. @ El Buggo

        Sincere apologies. I can see you are a serious poster. Feel free to continue posting without any further interference from me. I belong in the opposite camp, and, as you can see, am not impressed with “nuke revisionism.” Nor are most of the intelligent people I know.

        There are a lot more important things to think about. Holocaust revisionism, for example. It seems to me that a person who obsesses about nuke revisionism and forgets to turn his attention to the far more important subject of Holocaust revisionism is a person who is intent on causing a distraction.

        A bit like a doctor who, when presented with a patient suffering from terminal cancer, is more concerned with prescribing the right medicine for his patient’s acne.

      3. In fact, I would say that “nuke revisionism” is just the kind of conspiracy theory that would be invented by Jews to bring Holocaust revisionism into disrepute. This is not my own view alone. It is shared by many people I know, including the best posters on this website. Bad conspiracy theories — by which I mean wildly implausible ones propped up with a mass of technological gobbledegook — will bring discredit on good conspiracy theories.

        Your nuke revisionism would involve a giant conspiracy in which many countries are practicing mutual bluff and deception, and in which millions of officials are engaged in fraudulence on a stupendous scale. It’s just not credible.

      4. Sard –

        What a hoot!!!

        “Good conspiracy theories… and Bad conspiracy theories”…!! LOL!!!!!
        Categories, even… rated……!!
        We’re really guessing now…!! Ummmmm…. Let’s see….. Niburu cometh….. 🙂

      5. @Sardonicus – thanks.

        You and your intelligent friends could help us nuke hoax believers enormously if you could locate ANY SPECIFIC traces on the ground after 1 huge explosion in Hiroshima, in any films or photos after the REPORTED event. How hard could that be for you guys? After all, we are talking about the biggest REPORTED explosion in the history of war here, and there simply has to be some specific traces on the ground, like a crater, or an epicenter, or some discernible traces of a shock wave. Everybody knows there simply has to be something there, or are we supposed to believe that the biggest explosion in the history of war didn’t leave any specific traces on the ground?

        I’ll pay you if you can dig up something conclusive. How hard could this simple task really be for really intelligent people?

        Again, Sardonicus, have a look at how packed with jews this story is. It is a huge red flag right there, before you start looking into the subject for real.

        Your problem, and everybody else’s problem is that you were born into this story, and non of you have studied the basis for this monster weapon, as Aristotle told us: “If you would understand anything, observe its beginning and its development”.

        Awaiting yours, if any.

      6. Pat –

        Well, Sard DOES claim to be a guest at a Japanese monestary… Accordingly, it is only polite that he voice concern over the debate. Having just read on Drudge that an American military base ammo warehouse has been sabotaged by possible ‘right-wing’ elements of Japanese society in Japan (a base in Japan, of course), I only just realized feelings there are being fanned against us. Qui bono?

      7. I think you know what I mean, Pat, though I expressed myself badly. I don’t myself regard Holocaust revisionism as a “conspiracy theory”, but that is what it’s called by those who would like to discredit it.

        Some “conspiracy theories” are plausible, others implausible. And kooky and implausible “conspiracy theories” are being fabricated all the time in order to bring discredit on ALL “conspiracy theories” — especially the so-called “conspiracy theories” (like Holocaust revisionism) that are not really “conspiracy theories” at all but are correct viewpoints.

        As you know, the term “conspiracy theory” is a modern term. If it had existed in the past, you can be pretty sure that Darwin’s theory of evolution would have been dismissed as a “conspiracy theory.” It probably still is in certain quarters! 🙂

      8. Sard –

        I know what you meant… I just wanted to razz your azz…..

        I have been a ‘kook’ since 1958… when I called my jew school mates Christ killers. That didn’t go over well with anyone. They didn’t appreciate the Protocols either…. or Martin Luther’s book…. in pamphlet form back then. I handed them out anyway.

        So, you see why I don’t get ruffled after so many decades of it. Used to it.

  39. One final comment about the atomic bomb. On the morning the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, the Japanese did not even bother to scramble fighters to intercept the B-29 because they assumed it was a reconnaissance flight. They were so short of resources, they did not want to expend the fuel and other resources to go after a photo recon plane, so the Enola Gay flew to its target totally unopposed. No doubt the Japanese would have been the very first to discredit the existence of nuclear weapons had there been any reason to do so.

    I never realized the Christian aspect of Nagasaki, but it makes sense that Jews would reserve their worst and dirtiest for a Christian city. Each new fact I uncover about this race is worse than the last and lately the facts are almost beyond comprehension. Can the Jews get any worse? Evidently there is yet more bloody filth to uncover that lies beyond what many goyim minds can comprehend.

    Jews as a race, as a people, have virtually no outstanding redeeming features or value that I can find. What little there is, is so negligible as to be inconsequential when balanced against the immense weight of their crimes. Even their best humor is truly ugly and vicious underneath its funny facade, while most of it is a puerile as a fart joke or pie in the face. So why is it no one finds Jews utterly repulsive?

    “I believe this no nuke theory is COINTELPRO. It is deliberately designed to discredit the alternate media and other valid dissident viewpoints. It’s the same as the theory that the Queen and other leaders are actually alien lizards set to rule over us.”

    I don’t believe it, I am certain this is Jew counter intelligence. It has all the earmarks as did as the phony Dachau evidence, forced upon the Germans, stank of a Jew’s fecal fantasy. The Jews have long used such tactics and they are masters at it as they have a penchant for exploring the mind and its workings so they may better control their victims.

    There is no doubt such attempts are deliberately designed to discredit any and all viewpoints not Jew approved. It’s the same as the theory that no airplanes were present at the trade tower attack. The attempt is to lump the most outrageous, inane and absurd claims with perfectly rational, reasonable and factual assessments.

    It works because, thanks to Jew TV and other programming efforts, few sheeple retain the ability to research and critically assess claims presented by supporting facts. For many, alien lizard theories sound just as rational as saying Jews run the world. However, without even any facts to support these claims which is more probable? Ever seen a Jew? Ever talked to a Jew? Ever seen alien lizard people or talked to one? What are the odds for the validity of these claims?

    The inability of white people to think critically, research facts and make a rational assessment, combined with a abysmal ignorance of history, presents what is perhaps the largest problem facing mankind today.

    1. You have never studied the case for the nuke hoax, and you simply do not have a clue on what that claim is based upon. I detect a lot of absolutely certain faith based convictions in you post.

      1. — El Buggo

        And why should we believe that YOU, about whose qualifications we know nothing, is more to be believed and trusted than Arch Stanton?

      2. Apart from which, El Buggo, the whole business about whether Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuked or firebombed is very much a “red herring” or distraction from the main issue. What was the main issue? The main issue was not HOW Japan was reduced to rubble — whether by Method 1 (nukes) or Method 2 (firebombing) — but about AMERICAN WAR CRIMES IN JAPAN, particularly the mass rape and brothelization of Japanese women.

        That was the central issue of Thomas Goodrich’s original article out of which all this discussion grew: “The Untold Story of Japanese War Crimes in Japan.”

        We are here to indict America for its war crimes against the Japanese. The nuke issue is peripheral. It is a distraction from the main issue. Can’t you see that?

        People like our friend Pat and Dublin Mick, not noted for their ability to keep their eye on the ball, would like to drag us even further away from the central issue by introducing an entirely new distraction in order to throw sand in our eyes — and this is the off-topic and TOTALLY IRRELEVANT CONSPIRACY THEORY that the Jews and the Japanese are genetically related!

        Honestly, what on earth does this silly subject have to do with American war crimes in Japan? Nothing at all! Even if we grant that Japs and Jews are related by blood, SO WHAT?!? Big deal! Where does this question lead us? I’ll tell you… into a cul de sac.

        Let’s keep our eye on the ball, okay? 🙂

  40. Let’s go thru the opening salvo of this article point by point

    The political implications of atomic bombs being a fraud would be enormous.

    As in the impossible “Holocaust” and 911 etc, what’s the difference? It has to be a GLOBAL conspiracy

    It would mean not only that the US had cheated the world, but also that the UK, France, Russia, China, India, Pakistan and Israel had been cheating the world in a similar way.

    Same deal as previous comment

    The “treason” of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg would have been a fraud, and they would have been executed for nothing.

    Like the Sandy Hooksters were executed?

    The Israeli whistleblower Vanunu would have been lying also, by “exposing” Israel’s nuclear arms program when no such program existed.

    Surely Israelis would not lie?

    Israel would also be feigning right now to be concerned about a possible Iranian nuclear bomb, knowing that no such bomb had ever been built.

    No shit, Sherlock?

    As for the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, that too would have been a total fake, with both Khrushchev and Kennedy cynically aware that they were engaged in a bogus argument about non-existent WMD!

    I doubt Kennedy WAS aware they were fake, dunno about Kruschev, probably did know

    Occam’s Razor would suggest that none of this nonsense is possible.

    Occams razor says 911 could not be a hoax perpetrated by so many countries

    Beautifully put. There is simply no answering this. Ryckaert is the voice of common sense. He says what ought to be obvious to anyone with half a brain.

    Yes, but does not fool me because I have two half brains

    1. Rodin, the thinker, Bravo!

      I did not want to say anymore than what I already said in my 4 or 5 posts refuting this MASSIVE JEW FRAUD AND SCAM. Your point-by-point response is brilliant. Personally, I felt it beneath my dignity and intelligence to respond to Franklin [D.] Ryckaert’s claptrap or non sequitur(s), if we use the Latin and more technical term.

  41. If there’s no such thing as Nuclear Weapons, then why did the levels of Nuclear Radiation Sky-Rocket in New York City immediately after the World Trade Towers imploded upon themselves on 911 at Ground Zero?

    Search Term :

    “Nuclear Radiation In New York City After 911”


    Large quantities of Tritium, Strontium 90 and other radioactive isotopes were found to be leaking from the Indian Point Nuclear Power Station 40 miles upstream from the WTC site since 1998 3 years before 9/11.

    1. @ Exorcist :

      Got a source reference or two or no? If 911 in NYC was not nuclear, then the levels of nuclear radiation would have remained at the same level as before 911. But the levels of nuclear radiation sky-rocketed the very same day as 911. The leak at Indian Point in 1998 doesn’t account for the surge of nuclear radiation that occurred on 911.

      Search Term :

      “Dimitri Khalezov + 911 NUCLEAR”

      1. I’ve bebunked Khalezov’s BS on the TruthZone 911 Thread (Post 98)

        Nukes are a Hoax. If Nukes worked and they were used on 9/11 then the WTC basement Levels would have been destroyed, the “bathtub” would have been destroyed and the subway and rail tunnels would have been destroyed.
        They were ALL practically undamaged!!! Also Khalezov provides NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER for radiation “sky-rocketing” the day after 9/11.

        Khalezov is a Bull$hit merchant.

      2. “They were ALL practically undamaged!!!”


        Film footage just after the controlled demolition showed the damage that WAS done in lower levels was from the ‘pancaking’/collapsing of higher floors.

  43. My theory

    Hiroshima and Nagasaki had already suffered devastating earthquakes way before
    August 1945. This damage was known to the Americans from aerial photo reconnaissance.
    The devastation was “spiced up” with M69 cluster fire bombing to create the Fear Porn Atomic Bomb Hoax. The structural damage to buildings, bridges, rail tracks etc is entirely consistent with historic earthquake damage to Japanese cities eg the 1923 Kanto Earthquake. More evidence here:

  44. To Pat and Exorcist :

    You two should go tell your problems, issues, and concerns, to Alex Jones. I’m sure he has the patience for your bullshit. I know I don’t.

    1. Re:
      October 25, 2015 at 9:46 pm

      A very timely article, considering Putin intervened in the Middle East. I’m not surprised Lasha the talmud-qabalah jewess who always pretended to be a “NON jew”, is now feeling as if she’s being tortured.

      Now she, along with her whole army of Darkmoon jew trolls on this site, all pretending to be non jews opposed to jews, are now faced with someone with real serious power behind him, namely Putin, who is actually doing something to defeat the jews and defeat the jew NWO. So Lasha and her army of Darkmoon trolls who fill this site are now in the position of having to pretend they actually like Putin who is destroying their jew talmud-qabalah Darkmoon jew supremacist dreams and schemes, LOL.

      So of course it’s something extremely painful, and jew Lasha and her army of jew supremacist trolls on this site are feeling as if they’re being tortured. It must be very painful to be a jew supremacist troll who always pretended to be a “non jew”.

      Before Putin, Darkmooners could play-pretend they were opposed to jews and to the jew NWO because there wasn’t any serious opposition to the jew NWO, so pretending was fun and laughs and mockery and farce. But now with Putin making it hot for the Jews, it’s fun and games no longer. In fact,it’s downright torturous. Hence an article about torture.

      How Darkmoon LERVS to leave jew clues in its wake. LMFAO!!!


      Dear “Lasha”

      Please take my advice and block for good, this very clever liar Joe.

      I realise that he is very entertaining and entices other much more intelligent comments, but he is ruining your very good reputation!

      As they say: “there are plenty more fish in the sea”. And please don’t be fooled by the antics of his fake saviour; the “Holocaust” promoter, Jew lovin’ Putin.


      1. Darkmoon [ and Alex Jones and Moonbattery, and so many other websites in the “alternative” media ] can ban and censor me all they want, it doesn’t matter, not really, for Putin is still going to destroy their jew-owned-and-controlled Israel Secret Intelligence Service [ ISIS/ISIL ] ipso-facto destroying the jew’s dream of destabilizing the Middle East for jew supremacist eretz Israel Empire. “ISIL” stands for “izzysmell’s scummy izzy lizards”. Putin is now in the process of reclaiming Iraq from the jews. If the web “masters” of the “alternative” media had any real brains, they’d be a lot more worried about Putin than my posts to the “alternative” media. Putin’s got The Mighty Russian Military behind him and Putin’s got the electronic jamming technology of The Magnificent Bear behind him, I don’t. I only got “Jews Admit To Doing 911” videos and “Dimitri Khalezov + 911 NUCLEAR” videos at YouTube behind me, 😉 .

        Now, now that I’ve been very effectively banned from the “alternative” media, now that I’m out of the way, now the web “masters” of the “alternative” media can expend their time and energy banning Putin from the Middle East, LOL. Maybe, lol, Putin will be afraid of your chubby watch dog, Emerick. So far, no one else is afraid of your spoiled and overfed junk yard guard dog. But maybe Putin will be. Lets see how it goes, shall we?

    2. TROJ –

      You made my day…!!! 🙂

      You continue to read and read my comments….. even though you don’t have time to read and read my comments.
      I like it when you you read and read my comments.
      I like your replies after you read and read my comments. Thanks.

      Please continue to read and read my comments. 🙂 🙂 🙂

      1. Wow! Looks like Pat is a whiz kid at parody. He has now managed to imitate TROJ’S repetitious style perfectly.

        Hey Pat, you aren’t TROJ by any chance, are you? Or Woody Allen pretending to be TROJ? 🙂

      2. Darlington –

        That was my feeble attempt at imitation.

        Nobody can equal TROJ, the ‘Woody Allen of DM.’ 🙂

        He be hatin’ ‘smileys’…. so I usually give him a few to chew on.

      3. @ Pat:

        Darlington – That was my feeble attempt at imitation.

        You did a good job! I thought it was TROJ for a moment … posting under your name. 🙂

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