Trouble Came

TROUBLE  CAME

Weeping prophet“That which I was afraid of is come unto me.”


Let the day perish wherein I was born, and the night in which it was said, There is a man child conceived. Let that day be darkness; let not God regard it from above, neither let the light shine upon it. Let darkness and the shadow of death stain it; let a cloud dwell upon it; let the blackness of the day terrify it.

Why died I not from the womb? why did I not give up the ghost when I came out of the belly? Why did the knees prevent me? or why the breasts that I should suck? For now should I have lain still and been quiet, I should have slept: then had I been at rest, as infants which never saw light.

There the wicked cease from troubling; and there the weary be at rest. There the prisoners rest together; they hear not the voice of the oppressor. The small and great are there; and the servant is free from his master.

Wherefore is light given to him that is in misery, and life unto the bitter in soul; which long for death, but it cometh not; and dig for it more than for hid treasures; which rejoice exceedingly, and are glad, when they can find the grave?

Why is light given to a man whose way is hid, and whom God hath hedged in? For my sighing cometh before I eat, and my roarings are poured out like the waters. For the thing which I greatly feared is come upon me, and that which I was afraid of is come unto me.

I was not in safety, neither had I rest, neither was I quiet; yet trouble came.

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54 thoughts on “Trouble Came

  1. Pursued or not pursued, both good and bad will come to all who exist in the material worlds.
    The rub is in the ratio..

    1. The Hebrew writer of the Book of Job, from which this article is quoted, didn’t understand the Law of Karma and Reincarnation, therefore he could not solve the riddle why sometimes unrighteous people prosper while sometimes righteous people suffer. If you only believe in this material world, as Judaism so clearly does, many things remain a mystery.

      1. That’s the gist of it, Franklin.
        For them, it is a one-shot affair, so

        Job complains that he must suffer while Jews without job prosper 🙂

        I think that this essential atheism is at the root of devilry called Judaism, devil convinced them of the “what you see is what you get” fallacy, once they bought into that, the destruction of morality was a cinch, as Dostoevsky observed so aptly on so many occasions.

        And why the deeply spiritual, moral Russia is such an anathema to them.

        Concept of justice/karma is incomprehensible to Jew, whereas in any legitimate religious system, it is the bedrock of faith.

        I am unaware of any parallel to Job anywhere outside Torah.

        There is always country+western:
        My baby left me alone in motel room, stole my truck and the last pack of cigarettes ♫♫

      2. Is there any reason one would be led to think there’s some kind karma after death? Why wouldn’t life be what you see is what you get? Because we have a deep need to want to believe otherwise, meaning that that deep need must be grounded in some kind of metaphysical truth? The Pharisee lies, cheats, steels every chance he gets–and he tortures mercilessly at whim. Maybe in large part because he has no belief whatsoever in a life that follows that takes tabulates good and evil in this life? The only reality we know is physical life on earth and the Pharisee with his immoral ways is clearly the champion here. Why would a Creator make the world in such a way that the most immoral rise to the top IF immorality curses the successful schemer to justice in the hereafter? The schemer would answer the Creator, I was just playing by the rules to the best of my ability. The game was structured so that the most moral, righteous of men fell victim to the likes of me.

      3. Indeed J and why not?
        Ask yourself what separates you from shabbo goy, who bases his life on precisely this logic.
        And my guess is that like it or not, whether you recognize it or not, you believe in karma.

        I could expound on my semiprivate pet theory that draws a parallel to the immutable, never violated physical law of “conservation of information” (conservation of momentum) and what is justice but conservation of information, ie, nothing lost or forgotten.

        But forget that, too half baked even for my taste, work in progress, many loose ends need tying up before I shake the dead bugs from my bullhorn.

        What Jew dd is placed his bet against karmic justice, understanding full well Christ’s “You cannot serve two masters”.
        He went into the restaurant and freeloaded on best meals, figuring that once sated, he will cut and run while the inn-keeper goes for piss.
        Well, that’s his bet and it ain’t over till it’s over, like the wise bit of old Americana goes.

        So we’re back to square one, JPower, this is indeed the Devil’s root and Jews live inside their own, invisible to them, matrix.

      4. Maybe the writer of Job didn’t ”understand the Law of Karma and Reincarnation”, but he sure-as-hell understood the power of God and Satan, which all would do well to contemplate. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

      5. Gilbert, I do respect your take on things and your absolute right to follow your instinct.

        But I would like to point out what I consider a fallacy in the FEAR THE LORD script which allows Jew an escape clause.
        It is alright to argue that fear is what makes man a moral being and keeps him on the straight and narrow, no need for Jesusoid wimpy arguments of free choice etcetera that the stick is a better motivator than carrot – I can’t rationally refute this.

        But, if one bases his life on the fear principle and only follows orders from a higher authority, he effectively washes his hands of any wrongdoing provided he can point upwards and explain that he only followed the orders – which is precisely what Jew does,
        “Your Honor, I was told that I am one of the pre-Chosen and that I must follow Talmud to the letter on pain of Lord’s (that is to say, you, Your Honor) wrath and destruction and thus cause misery and suffering to the Nations at every turn, so help me three-years-and-a-day”.

        One of his most powerful “sticks” is the story of Amalek, how king Saul, in not following instruction of a complete wipeout of the enemy tribe (kept a few virgins for recreational use and the vanquished king for some sport tied to a stake), The L*rd punished him most severely, in other words, Jew will argue before the final court (if there be such) that in not performing the utmost evil, as ordained by G-d and relayed to him by G-d’s authority, the rabbi, he feared just such “righteous” punishment, that the Almighty YHWH would smite him in great wrath, blahblah.

        And indeed, it is a powerful extenuating circumstance as his Talmudic attorney explains.

        I suppose that by excising the jewcier bits of Torah, a somewhat more palatable version of Old Testament emerges whereby you must do good on pain of eternal punishment but then it comes down to the toss of a die and Torah precedes OT, it is more complete, Jew claiming the copyright and can base his argument on that.

        Jesus in his final role as the prosecuting attorney has an entirely different approach, one that Jew has no answer to and this will be his undoing.

      6. Why does it have to be a fearsome God, Gilbert?
        Too old testamenty.

        How about simply an awesome God. Where existing in and of itself leaves you in awe and reverence for the awesomeness of Creation

      7. @LOBRO
        Why presume I believe in karma? I believe in the physical earth as * the most important dimension * in our affairs. It makes little sense that those who prosper in this dimension are those most likely punished in another. “Nature favors psychopathic behavior. Empathy is weakness. Look at the insect and animal kingdom and you’ll find that those that are at the top of their respective food chains are the ones that hunt and kill members of their own species. Sharks, lions, spiders, hornets, etc. Humans are no different. The only difference between humans and the insects and animals is that we’ve created advanced technology that will allow the “sharks” of our species to devour us all.”

        Do you really think that those living as in this picture https://enemystate.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/life-in-a-peaceful-new-world-not-possible-with-religion.jpg or in what they call higher levels of consciousness here https://enemystate.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/map-of-consciousness1.jpg will be in much better states once they leave this world? Then why would the world be configured to reward those exhibiting the lowest states of consciousness? What’s the rhyme and what’s the reason?

      8. JPower, you cover a lot of ground in those questions, most unrelated to one another.
        The pictures are nice and in case you haven’t noticed, represent an idealized state comparable to the garden of Eden.
        Before the Fall.
        I am entirely in agreement with the concluding statement made in the second picture, things are bound to improve after elimination of Judaism and its derivatives.
        But will it ever reach that final state of perfection?
        I don’t see any possible way that it can or should, based on the human nature that forever balances the question of whether there is greater profit in working jointly toward the commonwealth or enjoying the parasitic fruits of letting others pull the wagon that you ride on in comfort.
        Because it is true that parasitism is embedded in the natural order of things, an essential part of design.
        Religion, in its primal form tries to moderate this urge to live off avails of others, to suck blood from ignorant victims, often with catastrophically misguided results.
        But this is what it at least tries to do with its stick+carrot approach, because parasitism and morals complement each other, more of one means less of the other.
        Your pretty pictures paint an impossible state of perfection, bounty of nature simultaneously unsullied and free of both parasites and pesticides.
        But this only exists in religious imagination, so you ran the full circle, a deeply religious dude denying this reality, no need for karma where there is no crime, no need for soap where there is no dirt, everyone happy, healthy, immortal, so what need for Elysium?

        Easier said than done, don’t you think.

        Here is where we get to nitty gritty:

        (…) why would the world be configured to reward those exhibiting the lowest states of consciousness? What’s the rhyme and what’s the reason?

        My theory (the one I surely brought up at least twice in the months before you joined the forum) – and everyone is invited to forward their own, more sensible and complete one:
        Reality does not exist without consciousness (basic quantum mechanical formalism) and if it did, the universe would be perfectly static since the principle of locality would be violated, ie, every single action would have instant propagation and recognition in every corner of the universe (look up Bell’s inequality if interested).
        Thus, the cause+consequence principle (causality) only comes into force at the moment of conscious observation and the ball game starts there.
        This, in moralistic terms means that God (use your own term if unpalatable, eg, Primary Consciousness), assuming that he is just, has removed himself from the universe the moment he kicked it into dynamic state of being, otherwise how to explain the overriding injustice and misery?
        And it is easy to posit an anti-God (again, supply whichever term suits you) force which finds itself quite comfortably embedded in the world, not being bound by the dictate of justice – on the contrary, it revels in iniquity.
        Ergo, because of the conservation of information, the psychical equivalent of the momentum (energy) is similarly preserved and reconciled when the psychical component leaves the physical body it inhabited, ie, crimes, suffering, etc., must all be accounted for and offset as required to maintain equilibrium.
        Some call it karma.
        But the point is that the worlds of physical hurt and non-physical justice cannot occupy the same spacetime framework, they must be separate, like the potable water supply cannot share plumbing with sewage drain.

        As for

        Religion approves of force in relationships which prevents peace

        claim stated in the first picture, it is so facile and simplistic that I won’t bother to reply other than to say it is kindergarten stuff.
        If Jesus approved and urged rape, incest and pedophilia, I must have missed that part.

        (I just worry that 6 months or less, down the road I will be forced to restate the above)

  2. “Why is light given to a man whose way is hid, and whom God hath hedged in?”

    First of all, let’s put the experience of Job in a perspective that would see this world as an entrapment.

    Why is it so difficult to grasp the idea that the “omni” in “omnipotent” has been compromised by that which has rejected its own creation? The thinking that a notion of what God is bears responsibility for ALL that occurs when this may not be the case? That we were meant to endure when this may not reflect Divine Intent? That so much of the Bible is a false representation causing belief in a lie?

    The Light is not “given to man”, per se. The Light IS Man as a Divine expression of ITSELF (I Am). The “way is hid” because the influence of this primal rejection has BLOCKED the Light, turning the “Omni” into what “hedged in”.

    Is this a remaining mystery, or Truth? For it cannot be said with certainty that the writer of the book of Job didn’t understand the law of karma and reincarnation.

    He may have known it all too well.

    1. @ Brownhawk

      “For it cannot be said with certainty that the writer of the book of Job didn’t understand the law of karma and reincarnation.

      He may have known it all too well.”

      “20 Are not my days few? cease then, and let me alone, that I may take comfort a little,
      21 Before I go whence I shall not return, even to the land of darkness and the shadow of death;
      22 A land of darkness, as darkness itself; and of the shadow of death, without any order, and where the light is as darkness.”

      Book of Job, Ch. 10, KJV.

      With the “land of darkness” whence I shall not return is meant Sheol, the gloomy underworld of Old Testamental thinking. This remark “whence I shall not return” excludes explicitly the idea of reincarnation.

      1. @Franklin

        I take no credibility whatsoever from the book of Job, so any point you want to make that references it is a moot one. It is at best misleading and at worst of a diabolical design

        Suffice it to say, reincarnation infers the bogusness of a life/death cycle that we’ve all been spinning around on, probably for eons through our many incarnations.

        Karma is an arbitrariness that is imposed upon us.

        Justice? To the perpetrators of evil awaits a hell of their own making

      2. And dont get me wrong. Im not implying that justice won’t be meted out in a setting of moral groundedness There’s that, and then there’s the general state of an evil mind in which there is “hell to pay”

  3. Wow, what a downer. The only way to understand Job is to listen to Christ.

    Pick up your Cross and follow me. And that does not mean you have to live your life as a doormat.

  4. The Talmudists are far and away the most successful people in the world. Basically, the purer is one’s conception of Christianity the less worldly success they have. It’s not a spiritual religion, it’s a poisonous psychological trap set by the Pharisees against the gentiles. It’s instilled into vulnerable, defenseless children who take it as innocently as they take the Holocaust propaganda drilled into them with masterful talent. When you have access to the mind and psyche of the child you can have virtual lifelong ownership over that property. Christianity has done nothing for the millions tortured and murdered by the Talmudists. There’s no reason to think “Christ” is coming to save anyone. Wishful thinking and gullibility is the arch nemesis of the White Race. Don’t you think the Pharisees know this? They lie to you every chance they get and still the majority of you believe them. Those on this site represent a tiny minority and even here most deal with their knowledge of these harsh realities through magical Christianity thinking. Even here little are more psychologically mature than nursery children. Have you read Which Way Western Man? All the greatest nationalists seem to have come to the same conclusion, that Christianity is spiritual poison concocted and distributed by the tribe of liars, storytellers and deceivers.

    1. CHRISTIANITY IS THE BIGGEST CURSE OF THE WHITE RACE AND MANKIND.
      AGREE WITH JPOWER.

      I hope you are not feeling down, LD, that you have to quote the book of Job. That is a depressing read. But I think instead of giving up against the Jewish evil, we just have to fight harder. Better to have fought and lost than to have never fought.

      But I agree with JPower that Christianity is the ROOT of almost all the problems of the white race because Christians are brainwashed into worshiping their most lethal enemy—the Judaists. The Judaists are behind the alien invasion, the terrorist attacks that kill whites, inciting blacks to attack white women by showing malcegenation on TV, crime, corruption, bribing politicians, terrorism, pornography, etc. but the gullible Christians think they are God’s Chosen People and are totally blinded by these criminals.

      White people can easily and quickly vanquish their other enemies—the blacks and the Muslims, say, despite the former being 20% of the population. But they cannot vanquish the greatest threat to them from just 2%–the Judaists, because Christianity fools and traps them into worshiping their most lethal enemy.

      I could go on and on, but I would say only 2 things. First, Jewsus never existed. Over 100 scholarly texts have been written proving he never existed and his story is just myth.

      See: jesusneverexisted.com

      Second, if he did, he was a negro because the stories of the Old Testament are African, etc. For example:

      http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/jesus-was-black-reveals-newly-found-manuscript/

      White people must get out of this deadly African cult of Christianity. Deism, Odinism, (or even Atheism, Agnosticism), and other pagan religions of our ancestors are all better options. Rent a Unitarian church one day of the week and start a worship group to Odin or other native European WHITE Gods and eventually buy up one of the churches and convert it into a temple to Odin.

      1. You are confusing Christianity with Protestantism !

        Protestantism is fake Christianity; it is Judaism for gentiles or Talmudism for goyim.

        It was only with the Reformation – which was a ‘coup’ by the synagogue of satan – that faux-Christians, id est protestants, began ‘worshipping’ the jew as God’s chosen.

        The Catholic Church always tried to hold the jew on a leash in which she not always succeeded, but at least she tried ! Interest on money was not allowed, it was a sin! Of course the jew infiltrated the Church heavily in the Renaissance – The Medici and Borgia-popes. The protestants did not recognize this and seceded from the corrupted body of Christianity instead of cleaning up house.

        Helas! The elites in Holland and England allied with the ‘synagogue’ via freemasonry and other occult societies and became filthy rich from the lands and treasuries they confiscated from the Church. They allowed usury in banking and became even more rich by the slave trade and Imperium Building – all financed by the jewish bankers who were of course the real winners.

        So, don’t confuse Protestantism with Christianity !!

      2. Whether Protestant or Catholic, they both believe that Jesus was a Jew. The Catholic doctrine is not any kind of solution or else the world would not be in the state it is today, taken over as it is by the Talmudists. If it was a solution there are enough Catholics that should have been able to prevent that. “Jesus” never offered an elegant solution to the Pharisees. Living as He purports one ought to live is a recipe for poverty and social insignificance. Meanwhile, the Talmudists and their lackeys gain more and more power and control over the earth.

  5. This knowledge from Santos makes perfect sense.

    “Syncretism shows how all the Ancient Legendary Stories, Myths, Bibles, Fairy Tales etc, all have one simple common origin. In all of these wonderful ancient classics, the Personae are always the same, under different names. E.g. The Sun, Hercules, Jesus, Krishna, Little Red Ridding Hood, Prince Charming etc., are all one and the same Person/ Entity. All the characters have the same roles, the same adventures and the same trials and labours. The Seven visible planets and luminaries (The Active Creator God’s) in our Solar System considered to be a Macrocosmic Atom, the Twelve Constellations of The Zodiac, all play a very important role in this. The numbers Three and Four are also important. Four is the number of the elements, Fire, Air, Water, and Earth, which correspond to Light/ Heat, Gas, Liquid and Solid. They are the building blocks of the Universe. It is possible to explain every verse in the Bible with Science and Astronomy and Physics etc.”

    Much more at the link:

    http://universaltruthschool.com/SantosINFO.html

  6. CHRISTIANITY IS THE CURSE OF THE WHITE RACE AND MANKIND.
    AGREE WITH JPOWER.

    I hope you are not feeling down, LD, that you have to quote the book of Job. That is a depressing read. But I think instead of giving up against the Jewish evil, we just have to fight harder. Better to have fought and lost than to have never fought.

    But I agree with JPower that Christianity is the ROOT of all the problems of the white race because Christians are brainwashed into worshiping their most lethal enemy—the Judaists. The Judaists are behind the alien invasion, the terrorist attacks that kill whites, inciting blacks to attack white women by showing malcegenation on TV, pornography, crime, corruption but the gullible Christians think they are God’s Chosen People and are totally blinded by these barbarians and criminals.

    White people can easily and quickly vanquish their other enemies—the blacks and the Muslims, say, despite the former being 20% of the population. But they cannot vanquish the greatest threat to them from just 2%–the Judaists, because Christianity fools and traps them into worshiping their most toxic enemy.

    I could go on and on, but I would say only 2 things. First, Jewsus never existed. Over 100 scholarly texts have been written proving he never existed and his story is just myth.

    See: jesusneverexisted.com

    Second, if he did exist, he was a black man because the stories of the Old Testament are African, etc. For example:

    http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/jesus-was-black-reveals-newly-found-manuscript/

    White people must get out of this deadly African cult of Christianity. Deism, Odinism, Atheism, Agnosticism, and other pagan religions of our ancestors are all better options. Rent a Unitarian church one day of the week and start a worship group to Odin or other native European gods. In time, buy a church and turn it into a temple to Odin.

  7. The article/quote from Job is about has hopeless as it gets. If you want a downer day, this quote from Job could get the job done, no pun intended.

    The starting premise for the book of Job is faulty by being contradictory.

    Job 1:6-12 (KJV) – “Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought? Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land. But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.”

    Satan says that God has given job all of his belonging and, immediately, God says that all of Job’s belonging are in Satan’s power. Well, you can’t have it both ways unless of course you are jewish and decided to write the Torah along with Job and who knows what else in 622BC as a group of Israeli archeologist determined several years ago. The Torah was a means to consolidate the power of the jewish king (I forget his name) of that time. Jews/Pharisees like things both ways since it gives them more latitude when they lie.

    Starting with a faulty premise does not lend a work to be beneficial in determining the truth. Job along with the rest of the Old Testament concentrates on the fear of God while Jesus teaches the love of God. Again, you can’t have it both ways. The truth is either fear of God or love of God since fear and love are polar opposites. If a person loves God there is absolutely no reason to fear God unless confusion is a person’s cup of tea which appears to be the norm today as a result of the bullsh*t flowing from “Christian” pulpits. Jesus said he was the way, the truth, and the life. Jesus preached the love of God and love of your fellowman consistent with the two primary Commandments. The truth is love or Jesus was lying. I personally agree with Jesus based on research, experience, and rational thought.

    Contrary to what Gilbert wrote, “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,” the beginning of wisdom and truth is love of God.

    What can be learned from the book of Job? Nothing if the truth is what a person seeks. When trouble comes, the truth of the teachings of Jesus is a person’s best asset.

    Isn’t it interesting that Job, the Biblical book, and job, wage slavery, are spelt the same, pronounced differently, but both depressing.

    1. BUT JESUS NEVER EXISTED.

      See: jesusneverexisted.com

      So how can you say Jesus said he was the truth, when he never existed and the whole story is myth.

      1. @ Arnold

        So the one thing, Jesus, that jews hate the most does not exist according to you. You think that Jesus is just fake controlled opposition. Consequently, you do not believe there is a spiritual solution to the jewish evil and that you must fight the enemy on their terms which always guarantees a loss. You have put yourself in the group of the Hopeless Ones I described a few articles back.

        From a historical stand point, if Emperor Tiberius did not know that Jesus existed and causing masses of people to move around following him, Tiberius certainly would not have dispatched men from Rome to Palestine to determine if Jesus was a threat to the Roman Empire. Tiberius’ men reported back that Jesus was not a threat. If you are half as good as Pat at using a search engine, hopefully not Google, you’ll find it.

        For ten years of my life when I was under the misconception that I was an atheist, I would have agreed with your statement about Jesus not existing. However, since I personally have two good friends that raised people from the dead in front of very qualified medical witnesses using the name of Jesus as Jesus taught, I certainly cannot agree with you. Since one of those same good friends has been healing people using the name of Jesus for 30+ years and having witnessed it first hand way more than once, I cannot agree with you. Having personally healed some people myself using the name of Jesus, I cannot agree with you. Having personally controlled the elements many time using the name of Jesus, I cannot agree with you. Having personally used the name of Jesus to rectify downturns in a past business a few times, I cannot agree with you. Etc., etc.

        My personal evidence is that Jesus certainly does exist and what he taught is real, the truth, and tremendously empowering for good.

        I would encourage you to get over the jewish brainwashing, open your mind and your heart, read the four Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, seriously think about what you read, and put into practice what Jesus taught as best as you can. If you do, everything will change for the better in your life, in the lives of those you think you know, and those that watch what you do that you do not know. The truth of Jesus is quite contagious, obviously, by divine design.

        If someone as myself that was a staunch, stubborn, hardheaded, jewish brainwashed atheist can change for the better, anyone can. I am by no means special, faultless, or chosen. Anyone that gets fed up with the bullsh*t can find the solution in the Gospels. The choice is simple, bullsh*t with the accompanying emptiness of frustration with confusion or truth with the accompanying fullness of solution. Everyone must pick one or the other whether they know it or not. Making a choice is not optional.

      2. @ Ingrid B

        Didn’t know you were a Christ hater like Arnold who you defend.

        Can’t see what my defence of Christ has got to do with butterflies.

  8. hey stanley boy “turn the other cheek” 2 lessons for ya stanley somebody slaps you on the cheek, you do not have the right to slap them back, your lifes not in danger, you do not fight evil with evil lesson 2 stanley baby it also has the meaning of not responding to words/insults again they aint gonna kill you, ,therefore, turn the other cheek. hey stan, you wanna go get a good read. i mean a real good read at the new testament sometime, you might learn something

    1. Anything you say earth nijjer picaninny slave boy. Ashes to ashes & dust to dust. It seems obvious you gots nobody at home.

  9. While I myself am opposed to Muslim immigration into the USA — for a few reasons, one reason is because the jews have a long history of pretending to be Muslims and conducting their jew terrorist attacks under the guise of being Muslims — the more Muslims in the USA, the more incentive the jews have to stage their jew terrorist attacks to advance their Zionist NWO agenda — Anyway, no one listens to me, so it looks like we’re going to get a lot of Muslims flooding into the USA soon. May Obama surround and inundate all the web “masters” in the “alternative” media who promote Muslim immigration into the USA with the most die-hard intense wahabbi/salafist/sunni Jihadists. Like Noor, Lasha, Mark Glenn for example. It’s funny that the “alternative” media web “masters” who are the most savvy about jew false flags are also the ones who promote Muslim immigration into the USA the most. One would think they would be opposed to Muslim immigration into the USA considering they know so much about the history of jew false flags then blaming Muslims and considering they know the NWO ilk are using Muslims as front-line shock troops so to speak to take over the West for the fruition of the NWO — it’s these web “masters” of the “alternative” media who promote massive Muslim immigration into the West, including into the USA the most, even though the agenda of Muslim immigration into the West and into the USA is EXACTLY what the jews want in order to advance their jew NWO goals. But I’m expected to take such web “masters” as somehow being an “alternative” to the NWO jews. Go fuck yourselves and may Obama surround and inundate you all with the most feral atavistic nigger moozlum jihadists. Amen.

    1. @ TheRealOriginalJoe

      “I myself am opposed to Muslim immigration into the USA . . . no one listens to me, so it looks like we’re going to get a lot of Muslims flooding into the USA soon. [Many] in the “alternative” media promote Muslim immigration into the USA with the most die-hard intense wahabbi/salafist/sunni Jihadists. Like Noor, Lasha, Mark Glenn for example. It’s funny that the “alternative” media web “masters” who are the most savvy about jew false flags are also the ones who promote Muslim immigration into the USA the most … I’m expected to take such web “masters” as somehow being an “alternative” to the NWO jews. Go fuck yourselves and may Obama surround and inundate you all with the most feral atavistic nigger moozlum jihadists. Amen.”

      I can understand why you are permanently in Spamblinka. It is not only because the majority of your posts consist of longwinded, off-topic garbage but because you are openly engaged in telling the most blatant lies. In this particular post you are stating clearly that Lasha Darkmoon is prompting mass immigration of Muslims into Western countries when the OPPOSITE IS TRUE! Are you brain-dead or something that you cannot understand that Lasha has been among the most outspoken critics of mass immigration? She has even written a long article, published on the Occidental Observer, called: NO MORE IMMIGRANTS! — WE’VE HAD ENOUGH!”

      Here is her opening comment:

      “We simply cannot open our borders to every Third World immigrant crying, “Help, let me in!” One doesn’t need to point out the obvious: it would be an untenable situation if the entire population of Africa and Eurasia should decide to relocate to Europe in search of a better life. That’s why borders are essential.”

      Tell me, Joe: does this sound like “promoting mass immigration of Muslims into Western countries”? Doesn’t the very title of Lasha’s essay — NO MORE IMMIGRANTS! — WE’VE HAD ENOUGH! — make any impression on the sluggish neurons sloshing around in your sickly brain?

      http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/09/no-more-immigrants-weve-had-enough/

      1. @ ADMIN

        re TheRealOriginalJoe

        I would seriously suggest that you block all future posts from this character known as TheRealOriginalJoe. There is nothing real or original about him. He has been blocked from every other anti-Zionist site on the internet. He is bringing your website into disrepute and driving away readers by the filthy sewage you allow him to spew out of his mouth.

        As you can see from the above, he is engaged in a deliberate campaign of hate and defamation against Lasha Darkmoon. He is paid to do this by the ADL. Pull the plug on him sooner rather than later, before he does your site irreparable damage.

        — Darien G

      2. Basically, anyone who defends this sewer rat who spends all his time shitting all over Lasha Darkmoon should also be banned from this site also. By defending this ugly rodent they show their hidden hatred and jealousy of Lasha Darkmoon. I know of two such women on this site who keep praising his evil troll precisely because they get a sadistic thrill out of seeing Lasha constantly abused and humiliated. I won’t name these two sick women. They know who they are.

      3. I know of two such women on this site who keep praising his evil troll precisely because they get a sadistic thrill out of seeing Lasha constantly abused and humiliated. I won’t name these two sick women. They know who they are.

        I hope you aren’t referring to me?

  10. “Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night” quoting Blake from memory. It does seem that certain people have all the luck and others all the bad luck. Although sometimes the lucky ones get complacent, while those who are born to the night rise up in the shadows. The lucky complacent ones then will one day bemoaning their fate. Currently in the U.S. the complacent turn to crime to stay on top, preventing anyone else from getting justice or a fair shake.

  11. Mystics say what separates the enlightened man from the unenlightened, or “mechanical man”, is a matter of perception. Mechanical man’s perception is false, skewed by his preconceptions, beliefs, likes and dislikes; whereas the enlightened man sees reality for what it truly is, sans emotional attachment.

    Mechanical man’s nature, i.e. his acceptance of false beliefs and misconceptions as empirical truth, is so deeply inbred he is completely unaware of his nature and cannot escape by conventional methods. This is why it is said the mechanical man lives in a world of illusion, one he cannot escape by his own devices.

    All truth can be tested and verified. If it cannot be tested and verified, then it lies in the realm of illusion. Such is the problem with God and religion. Such concepts are invariably based on irrational belief, swathed in false, intellectual righteousness instead of verified truth. Yet there is intelligence behind the design we perceive with our five senses, just as there is obvious intelligence behind man’s designs. Essentially, intelligence does not happen by accident or happenstance, it requires intelligence to create intelligence.

    Thus, there is something behind this universe that has long been labeled “God”, it just isn’t anything the human mind can comprehend, so why waste time on it? Here is the Vedic view of God where Arjuna is struck senseless, almost losing his mind trying to gaze upon the revealed face(s) of Krishna: http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/erics/calmoncemore.html. As the Sufis say, religion serves for a good beginning, but it must be transcended before one can progress on the path to enlightenment.

    Here is a physicist’s view of this mental deviation. Professor Jaynes labels it “the mind projection fallacy”, whereby one assumes what is imagined is a “property of nature” or tested, hard reality. Science is slowly becoming aware of what mystics have known since the beginning. However, this is not unusual, truth has often long resided on a dusty shelf in the lost and found department.

    http://bayes.wustl.edu/etj/articles/prob.as.logic.pdf

    “As soon as the error had a definite name and description, it was much easier to recognize. Once one has grasped the idea, one sees the Mind Projection Fallacy everywhere; what we have been taught as deep wisdom, is stripped of its pretensions and seen to be instead a foolish non sequitur. The error occurs in two complementary forms, which we might indicate thus:

    (A) (My own imagination) → Property of Nature)

    (B) (My own ignorance) → Nature is indeterminate”

    1. @Arch

      Remember that Twilight episode where there is a setting of normal human behavior and activity, and at the end the camera zooms back to reveal two giants looking down over an aquarium?

      Not nearly as far-fetched as it may appear

    2. “it just isn’t anything the human mind can comprehend, so why waste time on it? ”

      Arjuna: “O universal form, O thousand-armed Lord, I wish to see You in Your four-armed form, with helmeted head and with club, wheel, conch and lotus flower in Your hands. I long to see You in that form.”

      (Kṛṣṇa showed His universal form to Arjuna just to show him that these people were already killed for their unlawful action)
      After displaying His universal form to Arjuna and terrifying him, Krishna displayed His four armed form of Vishnu, and then, at Arjuna’s request, displayed His completely pleasing and beautiful two armed form.
      ——————————————————————————–
      BG 11.49, Purport: In the beginning of Bhagavad-gītā Arjuna was worried about killing Bhīṣma and Droṇa, his worshipful grandfather and master. But Kṛṣṇa said that he need not be afraid of killing his grandfather. When the sons of Dhṛtarāṣṭra tried to disrobe Draupadī in the assembly of the Kurus, Bhīṣma and Droṇa were silent, and for such negligence of duty they should be killed. Kṛṣṇa showed His universal form to Arjuna just to show him that these people were already killed for their unlawful action. That scene was shown to Arjuna because devotees are always peaceful and they cannot perform such horrible actions. The purpose of the revelation of the universal form was shown; now Arjuna wanted to see the four-armed form, and Kṛṣṇa showed him. A devotee is not much interested in the universal form, for it does not enable one to reciprocate loving feelings. Either a devotee wants to offer his respectful worshipful feelings, or he wants to see the two-handed Kṛṣṇa form so that he can reciprocate in loving service with the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

      Completely comprehensible, if heard from one who comprehends..

  12. oh stan , you know I just handed you your ass on a plate, cos your reply to me is pure crap have a nice day bubba

  13. So now you is plumb dog killer mad, did J E S U S just disappear? Looks like somebody got played big time were the truth is now reveled with a sudden justified threat.
    I hear the Pentagon is packed full of your type , just begging for WW III to start , so J E S U S can finally return , isn’t that right ? Freaking Fool.

  14. ” They Swallowed The Sun ”

    They burned the world
    And swallowed the sun
    They take from everything
    And care for no one
    They study our rage
    So they rattle our cage
    But when they were gone
    That’s the day we came of age

    But what can you say
    When the loam and the foam has all boiled away
    And the oceans are dust
    You walk for five days to the mountains of rust
    And were can you go?
    The land is forsaken and nothing will grow
    And all the gods know
    That the suffering of Earth makes a pretty good show

    Somehow we survived
    We hunted we thrived
    The first to eat
    We were always the last ones to die
    We conquered the the world
    While they waited below
    Molten tracks in the snow
    Return to the Masters too well did we know

    The locks off the the door
    Detritus of science is heaped across the floor
    This junk only works when the power is on
    For five hundred years the grid has been gone
    Electronic art
    Ended up lasting as long as a fart
    But that’s what you get get when you love with no heart
    Bending to ending as soon as it starts

    They created life
    It should never be that way
    A bill for you to bear that they never meant to pay
    They went underground
    It was really rude
    Because they took all the girls and guns and the food
    Stem cells and cloning and fucking an ape
    But it’s not enough I must reach beyond
    Commune with the LoiGoi and become a God

    They swallowed
    We followed
    They swallowed
    They swallowed the sun
    They swallowed
    We followed
    They swallowed
    They’ve only just begun

    The children were born
    The children they died
    When you live in the wasteland
    Only the strong will survive
    Remade the race
    With the science of sin
    Create a creature
    We all can join in

    We know where they are
    We hunt them by night
    They are dead by morning
    Our schedules are tight !
    Twenty hot chicks for every old man…
    That was the plan , the chicks would eat spam
    Or maybe pink slim
    I don’t know what they call it but they eat it all the time

    They swallowed
    We followed
    They swallowed
    They swallowed the sun
    Viagra and meth
    And stem cells and death
    They sucked on the stock – pile til there was nothing left
    Vampiric cybernetic harbinger of hate
    Ain’t power great ?

    Lyrics by GWAR

  15. Israel’s 007, Jhonatan Pollard is coming out! things have now clicked perfectly regarding Netanyahoo last week’s visit; I had thought that it was ONLY about increasing u.s. Assistance to the only country in the world that, out of jealousy, is always under threat for no other reason than being God’s favourites.. But no! Not only did BiBi get mo money but more importantly, the release of a ” national heroe” who masturbated his circumcised winny and cleaned it all over the American flag! And them gray haired, old fart American Veterans looked very solemn the other day, what a joke! Why arent the Montana militias doing suicide attacks?
    Add that to some presidential candidate by the name of Carson -from the Black race on top of it- calling Syrian refugees “rabid dogs” and there you have the answer for when and if you ask the question … “why do ISIS call american blood, “sweeter”? You shouldve heard a short woman by the name of ms Lynch (yeah thats the last name of yet another black person) who is the Justice chief or whatever talking about how “we must preserve our culture and our heritage, attack the enemy and protect the teachings of the founding fathers” … Founding fathers? bitch if the founding fathers were around you would be cleaning the white house toilets and Pollard swinging from a tree! 20 years ago you had to go look for a sit in the back, and they still kill your people everyday… Another Condi Rice, except Kaddafy aint around to write this one poetry.. What a world, boy
    The only sattisfaction i got today was that 5 invading worms got smoked in Palestine!
    Hey: a settler a day keeps the doctor away!

      1. “meek” to mean submissive is the little guy eating dirt. On the other hand, meek to mean “humble and patient” could mean riding out the shitstorm until it all blows over.

        Glass half-full vs. half-empty

  16. Does seem Job’s the bible-book, thinkers and literary ones turn to first and most. Didn’t jump on and do ‘m‘doesn’t quite fit in the evangelical box’ sound-off. Anti – to the uttermost – Christ hate and baitin’ should be out for this. I only scanned a glance. To address Lasha the surpriser, bringin’ Job in the house, and unaccompanied at that. Almost, no comment, but a little bold could be large: ‘that which I was afraid of is come unto me – there is a man child – trouble came’. Wonder why, say what? ‘Trouble came’ link another ‘first and most’ – the smart and scathing, but reluctant to never touch these controversial, consensus-dismissed collection of books.

    Thinkers (not-believers) into-bible fave ground? The jolly KJ. Held up coz of prose. Understandable in cultural circumstances. On m’horse though: Those who put this translation on its own in some supposed anti-corrupt bubble and call the rest Babylon-others, not less-than, but a head-spinning ‘defunct and poison’,are gnat straining in a knicker-twist. Are KJ-onlyites implying God cannot, or doesn’t do what God wants, through other translations? As if God’s in their Reformation-only vision? Barking so loudly about accuracy, when the scholar most experienced and reputable wouldn’t agree with this. Overall, say KJ vs my particular sword-maker the NIV – hands-up/hands-down – y’right on. But y’daft. What about access to Hebrew/Greek? Steam enough out and on this sidelining, sideshow. (But does fool some who should know better). And on gain/lose aesthetics and so on, KJ power and beauty? Again fair consideration but overstates value at least for activists.

    Third way in the porch Those agnostic about corresponding culture and the book as literatue. Still-hard-core-no-no-no ain’t-no-god’ers though. Connect in with Vaughan Williams, whose delightful self-description is that he ‘softened into’ – much to Ursula/Mrs disdain and despair – ‘a cheerful agnosticism. Bridges with bells, smells and what Vaughan, more than anyone did for the church out of England, hymns ‘n organs and – some one, easily a bridge on his own, JS Bach. Fourth bridge, the ‘Fifth Evangelist (his selfie sort of nickname).

    Fifth? How-about? Desire to debate said book of god? For remote as the stars, doubts about: never-no-doubts, rock-solid no-orthodox. But there’s exploring to be had and done on the inadvertent classics? Feb ‘15, first barged in on Lightmoon (oops typo). Honest up, deeply moved and stunned that Lasha (‘n uncle ed.) – did the O.T. ‘Puts in a good word for…’. Oh yes, oh yes, yes, yes. Leave it there but highlighter out bold up: God was, and is, well pleased with this Bible-talk platform, the direction and movement that sought rigorous dismissal with some advocates.

    And to those, who can’t help themselves giving it the large and nasty about such publishing and the comment-ers, who dare ponder if divine is credible? When I read; get on God is dead, or Jesus made-up, or of course something with some conceded positive. Here – or them other three – my first thought is “keep going, don’t be put off’. To those with voices that make it clear they’d rather we leave this book o’ lies in the wastebin, unless we’re having a ‘untrue-myths exposure time – seek-n-destroy fest’? M’wd to ye: Love from God and those on this mission, because… And because, hostile ones, sure un-wantingly (not y’care eh), end up bridging, once they utter, in our case, type something.

    Those comfortably to hang about J-myth by-products are more likely conciliatory overall, backing down fron top-to-bottom war. If lingering in brim fulls, at best, God-insired stuff it would involve some kind of disconnect. Firmly confess the ‘no-way-but-no-side’ still opens participators to inevitable vulnerability. This if opportune dynamics exists and some/where/one is reaching over. Environment/atmosphere, potentially attracting consideration could stimulates. Fascinate someone off the page. If/maybe – but most necessarily – they have felt-need enough not even about God, a calling to connect and collide is more likely. What and – could be who – other is faith. Have that, and…

    Quiet through to struggling-loud seekin’ is all that’s asked. Heaven rejoices on a turning around a new meeting up with God. Along this way, whispers, often barely perceived, quietly flicker change that could appear unrelated – and certainly not require adjustments in believing, this or that is true or not. Interest, questions, taking in bits and bobs from the Bible. Talking out loud to walls, trees… ”who knows what?”. Touchpaper. Or scream mad angry, (any kind of faith, address this unknown), or go-meet a Monk or summit… Y’know, do stuff. One goal with God: this whatever, makes you wanna look more and again, at least not less. Hearty, strong need-to know, sincere desire, aching to encounter – and I would expect invasion from the Live one a-comin. (Praying, going on for you should… will, sort it. Certainly if you get to the point of asking someone.Welcome to write me?).

    Get to the: want to know if God is and this bothering me stage. Go: no conditions or restraint, or any pre-figuring expectations what and how this will look or work out. Only one hope tha’s the one over and underiding promise: Jesus-like/is present miraculous and loves one-on-one. If this is God, he’ll manage some way, some how, to meet with ya.

    No room for God? Not a doubt, without as smidgen of faith, so beyond doubt not only “there isn’t a…” but never, could, ever, can… Or will. Add, theories the Bible’s not only a terrible and wicked book but made up to destroy, without any last-redeeming benefit. And care, that much, this the case. Well of course a good person will oppose with all their heart, mind, soul and strength.

    Here’s something written to the pledged to and promised ones. Originally specific to a local church, the assembly of the Laodiceans. Prophetic room for wider merit, for the… what-90+percent is it? All Jesus done died for in love? (My “rubbish” ol’ NIV keeps it mild and goes ‘spits’ and loses tone and strength. Ok… lemmie do what I like to reserve, so to value – and bible-quote). Go – as norm – ‘Youngs’. Literal enough trans. for KJ-heads?)

    This Risen-claiming-Christ, reapplied to in-betweenies not pushing the, what’s-it-matter and true or false, through in investigation this begs:

    ‘I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.’

    God cold to the core, correspondingly truth-ers, understandably protest the obscenity of a gushing wobbly – wobblers – and their flimsy-bleedin, lovey-dovey, ‘Jesus lives’ racket. Because… where’s evidence, intellectual or testimony, plus plenty more reasons and devastating details therein?

    Lukewarm could be seen as hyper-ambivalence holding a questionable basis that transmits into irrational respect and support. We shouldn’t re-negotiate something untrue of such social magnitude because we say there’s admirable ethics, beautiful poetics and emphasis its good not ill socially. Or “well, if it isn’t true, did me know harm believing on a said follow-on…etc etc” is an acceptable postion or higher ideal. If ain’t got it, so no reason tis legit, until otherwise persuaded, confess reasonable icy anathema. For this reason, because why or what’s the matter? Jesus prefers it because paradoxically, more likely to meet, if ya colder than lukewarm.

    Identified ‘Christian’ has me burstin’ with qualifiers and cries, believers stop turning skeptics whys into confirming all the reasons to run from us. In among evangelical mainstream are a critical handful of primary truths that the slow growing flow of change is changing the theological kandscape. Those diggin and dug in, can’t countenance these new perpectives. One major block is around who and what Christians did, tey held these doctrines, in the past. This over and above, about a century compelling and convincing challeges otherwise. The other thing is saints of old lived without these doctrines being so popularly pushed to their consistent conclusions. With some, they went the other way and used them to galvanise. In our soft and domesticated West-world they can’t help being interpreted it into a widespread and deep, care-less attitude. Let alone the dilemmas about God; the who, how, what or why and thinking, if explained is a ‘come to Jesus’ spanner in the works. If all I’d ever heard and received about God were these overturned but still prevalent beliefs – surely would run a mile or go anywhere near. I show respect when meeting or communicating, stand on common ground but shake my head, can’t imagine why or how, someone can carry on with such a views of God. Of course, truth in the pews is, they are more likely to say-do on a push but can’t carry the conviction. What’s this do? Ramp up disconnect and disempowerment.

    I don’t know how far this explains all the manner-less, cliche, honesty-low, nut and can be nasty? And/or self-awareness is out the window.

    A year ago (to the week) I started up. Over-wordy (this by far gets the prize for that), earnest, try-ons that sure can bore some in the over-laboured intensity. Begs skipping in frustration. Squeezing and confusing, forgetting I lost the reader who’s following. Wrote here fairly recently that a Markmoon soon come, did, came, and went.

    Now m’blessed with two starts; on launch pads, engines charging and depending on weather, take-off‘s all but there. Binoculars out Monday and next week. Doing trouble for trouble and good for the good. ‘No published articles yet…’ but a year of blabber-me links are listed on the – to be written – bio. Wasn’t planning t write all this -”heaven no” – or whatabouts. Apologies again, goin on and on, very close not to publishing embarrassed at the pompous overload. And one response to Job and Lasha intended, ain’t done. Wasn’t so theo-intellectua more personal, on some angst and cries. Be glad if you look me up, the daily’s have to be quicko. Image whamo, one quick slap away. Gotta be, got stuff to do.

    One before I publish. In for a penny… Never thought to write this/person publicly. Premable and excuse to plug: Truthscoop.net is a collaboration with James Robertson of Crimes of Empire. Came out in comments between us on ‘Crimes’. More moderate intentions, turned into t’scoop. James and I are now good friends and said to him, the one person who I get inkling would be someone to invite to write, (not necessary expect an accept) – if ever such gleaming platform was constructed – is beloved Lasha. With Truthscoop shorter commentary, couple or more posts a day aggregator, not an obvious guest writer space. Plantaseed.org.uk aiming all God/me indulgent, again… Sister Lasha, be my guest but not forum with this intention or profile. Recently all-changed, the former track was more LD-likey, hence the ask. Me shut-up eh. Hey ho, let’s go. There’s ‘Crimes’ of course, obv. not mine to invite but am commissioned up for a series of articles, fitting in but not mainstay. James, having one – if he behaves himself – guest?

    Thanks much Lasha and co for having me. Job for a Daily Bread soon. Sooner the fresher, now stirred. Still curious on highlights? Perhaps do a version excursion?

    Mark

  17. When an evil-doer has a lightbulb moment where he truly understands his evil ways and figuratively or literally falls to his knees overcome with grief at the thought of what he’s done, he becomes viable in Christ. Forgiveness arrives and all the debts are paid off IN THAT INSTANT. Darkness’s loss is the Light’s gain, with no illusory “past” in accounting for one’s actions that reflects the imposing illusion of time.

    What Darkness loses is another soul to be claimed and chained to the bogus cycle of life and death, to be experienced in yet another round of incarnating until they GET IT, if they ever do in averting baleful consequences, and where “getting it” could occur at any illusive “time or place”. ‘Here now’, or ‘there then’ – in an eternal moment.

    Regarding the story of Job, for Creator there is no intention for expressions of Itself (Man) to be put to the test in a corruptible Existence like this. It is a completely illogical action for a loving God. This is entirely the work of Darkness – the extortionist of Creation, and what is to be expressed in any unencumbered reality involves only “tests” of Imagination.

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