US to Snowden: ‘Hand yourself in — we promise not to torture you!’ (Video)

0Lasha Darkmoon says :  This 29-minute Panorama video shows the BBC interviewing Edward Snowden in a room at the Hotel Metropole in Moscow. The video is new and mint-fresh. Don’t miss it! It is electrifying.  

According to the mainstream media, Snowden is the ultimate traitor who betrayed his country by revealing to the world how Big Brother spies on us all incessantly: reading our emails, monitoring our phone calls, and snooping on all our internet activities. ‘They’ve said they won’t torture me,” Snowden reveals. Meaning that if Snowden hands himself in to the torturers of Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib for “debriefing”, they will treat him with kindness.

For obvious reasons, Snowden doesn’t believe them.  

GCHQ, incidentally, is the British equivalent of America’s National Security Agency (NSA) which is based in Utah. I have given details about both these sinister spy agencies in an article elsewhere:

If Big Bother is based in America, Big Sister hangs out in the UK. The Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) is located in Cheltenham, England. It is now commonly acknowledged that Britain is the world’s intelligence superpower. This is partly due to Britain’s advantageous  Atlantic location between the US and Europe.

“The UK has a huge dog in this fight,” Snowden told the Guardian recently.“They [GCHQ] are worse than the US.” By ‘worse’ he means better at invading the privacy of people, without any moral qualms or legal constraints.

— See Secret Surveillance.

116 thoughts to “US to Snowden: ‘Hand yourself in — we promise not to torture you!’ (Video)”

  1. Mark Giuliano, FBI Deputy Director, stated at 20:55, that the social media “have to stay competitive in a global market.” Government snooping takes a ‘back-seat’ to profits.

    I say… “Hooray for profits..!!”

    1. I recall reading about the UK and Canada involvement in monitoring every phone call in their respective country’s.
      They were and still are way ahead of American’s.
      And that was in 1993.

  2. And, looking into the darkness one can make out the gleaming red eyes of the Synagogue. Quietly manipulating their Neo-Judas class. Payment to buy their fealty all laid out in pre-counted – neat…. little …. stacks of thirty pieces of silver. The “Christian” perpetrators (NSA-CIA-FBI _DEA etc.), anxiously waiting with their gleaming blades turned to the side to avoid catching on a pesky rib, waiting for their masters’ order to insert and rotate for maximum effect on their fellow citizens/country. All the while anticipating that pat-on-the-head and an extra coin or two in their stack.

    “No Rothschild is English… No Baruch, Morgenthau, Cohen, Lehman, Warburg, Kuhn, Kahn, Schiff, Sieff or Solomon was ever born Anglo-Saxon. And it is for this filth that you fight. It is for this filth that you murdered your Empire. It is this filth that elects, selects, your politicians.”

    – Ezra Pound, March 15, 1942 radio broadcast

    1. Great quote from Ezra Pound, who was imprisoned for far less than what Mr. Snowden has done, Mr. Snowden is a hero; under the fisa requirements Intelligence agencies were required to comply with certain legalities, though of course anyone who believes that snooping wasn’t going on extensively is very naive. Years ago “the Spotlight”, derided as a rag publication (which it may have been to some extent – but detractors missed the vital nature of the occasional whistleblowers that could not find publication anywhere else) revealed the existence of Echelon, the arrangement by which the UK would snoop and share with the USA, and the USA would reciprocate, with the other members of the five eyes (Canada, Australia, and New Zealand) participating as well. Today, they’ve run wild. Still. it’s nice to see Gary MacKinnon was not handed over to the USA from the UK, a small but significant observance of one of the last shreds of national sovereignty (He should have been given a medal for revealing security flaws, and there were other hackers from China, Thailand and elsewhere he noticed electronically who were doing exactly what he was and possibly never caught. His hacking exploits are truly worth reading and available online. Mr. Snowden’s lesser known public revelations regarding UFO’s are most interesting, though by no means a complete picture.

      1. Winston –

        The original Spotlight – Liberty Lobby – blew the whistles as much or more than Snowden..

        Here is an example of Pharisee takeover of opposition and whistle blowers over a few decades.

        I subscribed to the Spotlight when it was first printed as “Liberty Lobby” on stapled mimeographed sheets with blue ink in 1960.

        When it changed name to Spotlight and became hugely popular, the Pharisees took it over. They started publishing stories by the likes of… Pharisee DC lawyer Mark Lane and Pharisee Chicago lawyer Sherman Skolnick….. so we never got the ‘whole’ story.

        It is now AFP….. American Free Press.

        AND… Mike Piper is dead…!!


        Liberty Lobby was an American political advocacy organization founded in 1958 that went bankrupt in 2001. It was founded by Willis Carto and described itself as “a pressure group for patriotism; the only lobby in Washington, D.C., registered with Congress which is wholly dedicated to the advancement of government policies based on our Constitution and conservative principles.” Carto is noted for his promotion of antisemitic conspiracy theories and Holocaust denial.

        Liberty Lobby described itself as a conservative political organization. Its founder, Willis Carto, was known to hold strongly antisemitic views, and to be a devotee of the writings of Francis Parker Yockey, one of a handful of post-World War II writers who revered Adolf Hitler.

        Yockey, writing under the pseudonym of Ulick Varange, wrote a book entitled Imperium: The Philosophy of History and Politics, which Carto adopted as his own guiding ideology.

        Many critics, including disgruntled former Carto associates as well as the Anti-Defamation League, have noted that Carto, more than anybody else, was responsible for keeping organized antisemitism alive as a viable political movement during the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, when it was otherwise completely discredited.


        Lawsuit by E. Howard Hunt got Pharisee lawyer Mark Lane deeply involved.

        On August 14, 1978, The Spotlight published an article by Victor Marchetti linking former CIA agent and Watergate figure E. Howard Hunt to the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Headlined “CIA to Nail Hunt for Kennedy Killing”, the article said: “In the public hearings [of a pending Congressional hearing], the CIA will ‘admit’ that Hunt was involved in the conspiracy to kill Kennedy.” It also claimed that the United States House Select Committee on Assassinations had received an internal CIA memo from 1966 that stated the agency “will have to explain Hunt’s presence in Dallas on November 22, 1963”

        Hunt testified that he was in Washington D.C. with his wife and son when he first heard of the assassination. Snyder told the jury that Hunt had already been cleared in the assassination by various commissions and inquiries.
        Attorney Mark Lane, author of Rush to Judgment and a leading proponent of the theory that the CIA was responsible for the assassination of Kennedy, represented Liberty Lobby.
        Lane successfully defended Liberty Lobby against the defamation charges, which became the basis for Lane’s book Plausible Denial.


        The Spotlight ceased publication in 2001 after Liberty Lobby was forced into bankruptcy as a result of a lawsuit brought by former associates in the Institute for Historical Review. Willis Carto and OTHER PEOPLE involved in The Spotlight then started a new newspaper, the American Free Press, which is very similar in overall tone.

        An August 2, 2002 court order in the Superior Court of California transferred the assets of Liberty Lobby, including The Spotlight, to the judgment creditor, the Legion for the Survival of Freedom, Inc. who maintains an online archive of Spotlight articles from 1997 to 2001

      2. Pat (and interested parties)- Sorry for my above sloppy punctuation. Great overview of Willis Carto’s “The Spotlight”, I’m a longtime reader too, though not as far back as mimeograph days. I like Mr. Carto’s “The Barnes Review” as well. I’ve read all of Mark Lane’s work, it certainly is interesting how he nailed E. Howard Hunt (jewish, apparently, like Mr. Lane) in a court of law. You probably saw Hunt’s son video tape of his father’s death bed confession admitting conspiracy in the assassination. Another great read on same is “Regicide” by Gregory Douglas (Peter Stahl). This book provides information alleged to have come from the late CIA employee and Cold War author Robert Crowley; it seems certain very high level intelligence was being leaked to the Soviets, and the agency determined it came from a regular briefing report available only to a handful of people at the very top of the US government. Mr. Crowley suggested altering the reports ever so slightly to give each report a unique individual signature, and the result pointed directly to the President as the source of the leak, probably because of JFK’s mistaken altruism. The question is what exactly did that leaked intelligence refer to that necessitated killing the President? Mr. Clinton’s notable remarks about ‘winding up like JFK’ for probing too deeply into the ‘UFO’ phenomenon suggest one very likely possibility. Mr. Clinton’s associate Mr. Podesta is still very publicly vocal in demanding ‘greater openess’ on this subject (good luck!). Sometimes extreme measures may be necessary, but replacing JFK with the jewish criminal LBJ (this has been established though concealed for quite some time, not the criminality that is, which is still continously being exposed and was broadly known for a long time – the length of the SOB’s career, in fact) was without a doubt one of the greatest disasters in US history. The need for secrecy on some matters is very necessary, but allowing a cabal of neo-con criminal incompetents to run policy (and murder US and UK citizens) is leading to greater and greater disasters. Now there is a case for a large variety of both judicial and if necessary, ex-judicial measures ! I can never understand why so many people express their slavish subordinate admiration for Khazar mentalities (especially the unpaid) surrendering intellectual sovereignty to a criminal gang with a track record of hundreds of years of multitudes of disasters is suicidal. Admiration for gifted individuals of any morally honest stripe, sure, but lately the Khazar indoctrination has passed all limits. Likewise, castigating individuals like Snowden, Schlomo Sand, and others because they’re jewish doesn’t show much depth of vision or intellect, does it ? Snowden may not know very much about 9/11 (or as I mentioned, the broader aspects of the UFO phenomenon from professional experience) but one must keep in mind the compartmentalization of Intelligence as standard procedure – who would put all the ‘crown jewels’ at easy access to a relatively low ranking employee with little seniority? I’m grateful for the little pieces we are given by Mr. Snowden, Mr. MacKinnon, and others who have taken a lot of risk and sacrificed much for humanity (though in Mr. MacKinnon’s case, that wasn’t the original motive) like anyone else they and we have flaws. Flaws like Mr. Cheney’s (and LBJ) however, need addressing, preferably by very public trial and humiliation. Leaving them at liberty is a serious uncorrected mistake. Likewise with allowing self appointed experts like the Bilderberg group to dictate criminal world policy based on greed and self enrichment. What a totally bankrupt visionless enterprise for people with the means available to achieve great things, and the best they can do is mass murder on 9/11 and 7/7 to further pipelines and more filthy lucre, chipping individuals, racketeering in medicine, etc., etc. Keep up the good work Pat, LD, and others.

  3. the bbc is a rather convoluted complex
    tavistock mi5 operation
    from the dawn of man and his ass sents
    civilisations histries and all that
    from darwin 2 hawkins 2 bloodied mason dawkins
    stephen frie and his fried mind.
    jimmy saville lord non disclosure should be enough
    lrabbi alan yentob commisions laurence rees for nazi history programming to saturn
    tv gladio warnings fantasy and story casting of talmud spell by north london clever jewisher.

    was it always so most certainly.
    mi5 had office in tv centre for 40 years what what.

    far be it for me
    to too comment on the validity and
    uprightnousnuss and human decency
    of snowblow and ass ange.

    jane stanley the bbc lady half an hour to early
    said to me once.
    one can define a man
    and his disposition
    by three things
    his view on what happened
    in dealey plaza grassy knoll
    9 and 11
    and london
    netanyahoo 7 and 7.
    i would add another
    the utter silence of these here ho
    on the crime syndicate corpse
    called isra hell

      1. @Justice for Chinese. I agree. Charlie Drake knows what he’s talking about.

        What do you think about the news today? From the Telegraph and others.

        The attitude of the British Government “exceeds the past boundaries of China’s diplomatic relations with the West”, the editorial said, adding that it indicates, “a new political norm between China and the West is about to be kicked off.”

        But it aired a word of caution on whether Britain’s close relationship with the United States would be a barrier to closer ties.

        “How far China and the UK can go beyond their ideological divergences and how much freedom London can get from Washington in terms of maintaining a friendly relationship with Beijing, will become the focus of attention with strategic values in future Sino-British ties,” the editorial said.

        The Telegraph’s France correspondent Henry Samuel brings me this take on Xi Jinping’s visit to the UK from the French media:

        “London waits on Xi Jinping hand and foot,” heads Le Monde, in its morning briefing.

        “In David Cameron’s eyes, nothing is too much for Xi Jinping,” writes the daily, adding that the welcome is one “reserved for very close friends and crucial commercial partners.”

        “The Conservative government is counting on Chinese investment to fill the state gaps in infrastructure,” it writes. “It also wants to turn the City into the Chinese financial bridgehead in the West.”

        And talking China JFC, I thought it very odd that AM brought forth a story in relation to the missing Malaysian Airlines flight, about Philip Wood, an IBM employee who sent a message via his cell phone that the passengers were being held in Diego Garcia. He said he stuffed his cell phone down his pants! His girlfriend Sarah Bajc, who graced all the Jewish media is allegedly a Mossad agent. She worked in China as

        Economics & Business Teacher, 6th Form Tutor, Head of Curie House,
        Harrow International School Beijing

        As per her Linkedin Profile.

        Strange stuff eh … or am I mad?!

      2. I missed her too. She’s a bit touchy, but then, so are all the most interesting people I know.

        “Am I mad?” she asks.

        Honey, you are mad! Take that as a compliment. I’ve yet to meet a genius who wasn’t a bit crazy.

      3. You’re Mad as a Hatter, RO… that’s why I love ya.

        I’ll get back to you later when I’ve had a chance to fully digest your post… but in the meantime I’m sure Pat will give you his 2 cents worth…… 🙂

  4. It seems, everywhere throughout the world,National Security Agencies turned out to be just Elite Security Private Agencies.

  5. “911 was an anglo-american job” … sorry snowden and putin … no sale here

    snowden is just theater
    mossad cia mi6 kgb is all the same organization
    kgb st. putin is leading the faux deconstruction of zionism

    jews are better off coming clean

    1. i wonder what snow job and ass ange
      think of kosher artists running amok
      all over usa from 1998 -2001
      i wonder what they got to disclose.

      i often wonder about the b thing and gelatine.

      electronic words in high rise windows
      same positions as later demolitions
      can a word be a shaped charge weapon
      spooky plane shapes
      no no that theory is not kosher.
      the cohen is innocent in the trained
      eyes wide shut
      minds of snow done and
      ass ange julien

    2. @ Flyingcossack. “911 was an anglo-american job” … sorry snowden and putin … no sale here.


  6. I saw a picture today of a wild-eyed Putin flashing the masonic hand sign. Was it real or superimposed? What was the context? Was he being facetious? Was there some temporary possession thing going on? (don’t laugh – it happens – I’ve seen it – a battle of consciousnesses)

    I’ll say this about that:

    For Putin to be in his position as national leader INFERS, not implies, I’ll repeat, INFERS a masonic affiliation at the outset of his rise to power. But things change along the way.

    It’s like JFK. He got elected President, largely because of his father living vicariously through him, and shortly thereafter he learned how the game is played and who and what controls it (at least on the worldly level) The question for him became, are you gonna be on board with it having the indifference of an Obama? Maybe hoping like Stalin for someone like Hitler to bail ’em all out (Sorry, Circ, I think you’re too close to the action and not seeing the forest for the trees on that score) Or do you come to the conclusion like Kennedy that it’s all bullshit and decide to be your own man, in whatever chosen manner?

    While I agree with Pat, and don’t see a US-Russia war, per se, that being probably the greatest act of posturing in history, “wars and rumors of wars” ensures war by proxy. And with wildly unexpected Alliances, I might add. These proxy wars will continue a recurrent theme – The Khazarian dominated CFR pushing pushing pushing. With Putin and Russia pushing pushing pushing back.

    A 1,000 year-old grudge match in the final rounds

    1. “A 1,000 year-old grudge match in the final rounds”
      The first great dispersal of Jews by St. Vlad

      “”The Khazar Jews came to the court of Prince Vladimir and said: ‘We have heard that Bulgarians (Muslims) and Christians came to teach you their religion… We, however, believe in the one God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.’ Vladimir asked them: ‘What kind of law do you have?’ They answered: ‘We are required to be circumcised, we may not eat pork or hare meat, and we must observe the Sabbath.’ And he asked: ‘Where is your land?’ They answered: ‘In Jerusalem.’ And again he asked: ‘It is really there?’ They answered: ‘God got angry with our fathers and therefore scattered us all over the world and gave our land to the Christians.’ Vladimir asked: ‘How is it that you can teach people Jewish law even while God rejected you and scattered you. If God had loved you and your law, you would not be scattered throughout foreign lands. Or do you wish us Rus’ians to suffer the same fate?'” – The Russian Chronicle, describing a visit of Khazar missionaries to Kiev in the year 986″

      1. @Jack Harper
        “Do you wish the Russians to suffer the same fate.” Good Point! Will the Anglo-Saxon powers suffer for the blood curse on the Jews?

      2. Amazing what happens when Goyums employ logic – Jew suffers a setback, oy gevalt!

        And along comes Vlad The Second a millennium after and pulls another such act on the poor, luckless Jew suffering so terribly the vampire pangs of lust and craving for the global dominion.

        Is there no justice? The anguished cries ring off Wailing Wallet, tears of Job gooeying up the ball point pen, Nadzee officers smirking behind monocles.

      3. Jack –

        I am surprised that the Prince did not ‘axe’ why their god wanted their millions to be stacked up in just one little city…. Jerusalem.

        The myth would have been better if they had used Palestine.

      4. @Pat

        Maybe “Jerusalem” is simply synonymous with Palestine. The old “lost in translation” factor

        And where “myth” = guess

      5. B-Hawk –

        “Maybe” is correct.

        The myth came from a visit in 986. Jerusalem had been a city for 1900+ years.

        City of David – Jerusalem – dates to the tenth century BC.

        Yes… translations and ‘guesses’ are tricky. 🙂

  7. the way i heard it, assange took a big chunk of money from the new your times to hold back all the dirt on israel. it is true that eliminating secrecy in government is the key to moving the human race forward into the next paradigm, and in that case him and snowden could be considered heros, if they don’t turn out to be shills put into place in a calculated move to control the opposition. it would be typical. even if they don’t know it. snowden does say it’s impossible for the nsa to hack encryption. so does the fbi creep, who thinks they can come up with a “solution”.. you believe it? the facebook guy says different. the intel henchmen try to stay out in front of these deals. assanga and snowden aren both heros of amy goodman and that whole left gate-keeper crowd of jewish zionist operatives. that should clue us all in somewhat. the super spies on america say snowden did irreparable harm to the security state, but the insight is that the security state no longer serves the public interest. it’s only the tool of the elite, who always program war and poverty, and who will never get us to the wholistic state. “espionage is all about doing things that would normally be against the law”. uhh yeah. and what do we suppose might be the end game on all this surveillance? just where is all this leading to in the next fifty or one hundred years? there is no way the public can be surveilled like this and retain a free society. what do you get then? society will not be allowed to evolve democratically from here. that means it goes backwards. any progressive movements that would render the security state obsolete will be sniffed out and aborted in their embryonic stages, using the ndaa assassination protocol. you won’t know if they read your emails and you won’t know if they gave you the cancer that’s killing you, in case you happen to be a genuine leader with a real progressive plan. it isn’t as if the security state is required to inform the public of who they put the hits on, though as the bodies pile up it’s getting pretty hard not to see the patterns. look at all the dead filmmakers, writers, inventors, wholistic doctors, anti vaccine activists, etc.. to what extent are your local police involved in all this? do you think it likely they’re given tons of tanks now without also being given all these smurfy spies too? are you keeping track in your county of who’s being roughed up? so the war on terror itself has done irreparable damage to the privacy and therefore the freedom of the common man, with how many trillions spent on all this apparatus and bureaucracy, without anyone up there asking the basic question – why do these people hate us in the first place? hard to believe, isn’t it? obviously the security state isn’t interested in real peace. that should give you pause. and who the hell is general hayden kidding about snowden getting a fair trial in front of a jury of his peers? nobody gets that unless the jury is put back in charge of the proceeding. freeing the jury is the key to returning political power to the people, in which case the failure of the state could be considered justifiable cause. snowden will never be allowed to tell his story to a jury. nobody is. the judge will decide what the jury hears and the jury will be instructed that they can’t nullify. and snowden’s “attorneys at law” will obey. there is no constitutional american courtroom anymore. you lost that when you got the admiralty flag. the question now is, who among the current candidates might see things snowden’s way, and have the courage to take on this surveillance state monster?

  8. Something strange happened while I was watching the video, a new tab button appeared at the bottom of the screen, the screen went blank, sound was still present, after a while, the picture returned, the tab button disappeared. What happened? was I hacked?

    1. What happened? was I hacked?

      Yes, you are now in our power!
      A helpless puppet in our hands.
      We have gained access through your computer
      to the interior of your residence.

      Right now
      we can see you sitting
      in front of your computer screen.

      Abandon hope.
      Give up the will to live.
      Resign yourself henceforth
      to slavery
      under Satan.

      1. We have gained access through your computer to the interior of your residence.

        Hey Zak:

        Can you help me find my watch?

  9. I see Snowden as a courageous patriot. I believe he did the right thing. You can see that there is a very slanted view of what the government considers terrorists. I guess they assume that they are so perfect about identifying the terrorists that they don’t need a justice system. This flies in the face of hundreds of years of common law. Why aren’t these NSA spy machines just exactly the same as any secret police like occurred in the Soviet Union, like occurred in Iran, that is brutal enforcers of a program of control. So if there are occasional incidence of terrorism or crime, then that for me is the price of freedom and privacy. Almost everything those creeps consider terrorism is suspect. ISIS, for example, might just be the U.S. Israel and Saudi Arabia and possibly others making covert war on the ancient land of Syria and the chosen government of Assad. It has nothing to do with my personal security or anyone else I know. All the terrorist groups they named are suspect, invention of Western espionage and shadow regimes. These surveillance agencies have agendas that don’t mesh with the nation state but with multinational corporations and Zionists—so sorry that I have to say that because I am afraid they collect metadata on so called anti-semites. In other words, if they don’t agree with you in any way, shape, or form then you get picked up in the scan and scrutinized. You might not have done anything illegal, you might only have an opinion or a belief system that they don’t like. This is total tyranny. I agree with Snowden it has to be stopped at all cost.

    1. I recently re-united with my sister, per e-mail, after years of estrangement. She was under the impression that Iran started the Iran/Iraq war. I tried to correct her, but was told that she knew best, since they had worked for a multinational company in Iraq. I asked her if it was one of the multinational companies which swooped into Iraq, once the country was destabilized, to steal Iraqi oil. I also asked if she`d considered that her husband`s cancer might have been due to the DU with which the US polluted Iraq. She never did address these issues, and now we have severed ties, again. It seems she is married to someone who declared that he is “proud to be an effing jew”, and she is extremely judaized. She e-mailed me one last time, to tell me that their jewish daughter in laws father, had died an agonising death, and that the daughter in law subsequently miscarried, and that she thinks I am to blame..

      1. Ingrid, what is the chronology here, is it like this?

        1. (a) sisters reunited,
        2. (b) sister’s “jewish daughter in laws father, dies an agonising death, and the daughter in law subsequently miscarries, and she thinks Ingrid is to blame”
        3. (c) sisters separated again.

        Because if (b) predates (a), why would your sister ever bother reuniting, knowing that you are responsible for Judaic agonies?

        Maybe there is something to it, how do I go about reuniting with a bunch of Jews?
        Maybe contact Yad Vashem for some blind dates.

      2. Lobro, she blames her misfortunes on my “hatred of everything jewish”. Is that not the ultimate hallmark of jew, to blame others for their misfortunes? btw, b did not predate a..

      3. I had a sister like that, it married a half N.Z. Jew. When it comes to politics and
        just about everything else, she wouldn’t know shit from clay. As the saying goes,
        we cant help who is part of our family. But we don’t need to converse with them either.:)

  10. that’s right kapoore. you said it pretty well. there’s no definition of terrorism and no proof required you are one. that’s not america. snowden looks genuine, but i guarantee they’re using him somehow. and that’s right, anybody criticizing israel will be put on the hit list. it’s now just a question of when they think they can make the big sweep. the adl has been running the fbi since before they did the okc bombing. the war on terror is all about controlling domestic dissent.

    1. and now the Egyptians are once more voting to legitimise the military noose round their necks, which controls domestic dissent, big time..

    2. Exactly the same as here in Oz. The media and government are having a field day as they
      report their propaganda and institute more of their Big Brother anti terrorist laws which I
      can already see they are aimed right at Whitey.

  11. As good as trusting a rattle snake. America born of England is the Biblical Beast represented by its congress consisting of the Rep. & Demo, The Bible spoke of two utter destruction from God. The first at the time of Noe due to the prevailing ‘Violence” then & the second at the time of Lot due “Sodom”. Even as the Bible Prophesizes of the days of Noe & Lot to befall, which truth is found in the way of the ‘Trigger” happy republicans & the “Sodom’ loving democrats respectively, like then.

    1. The most important part is to know the spirit behind these, points to the many hindu alters “Figured” in the British Freemasonic Israeli Supreme court(in the absence of the temple) Lo Egypt, for, then a “mIxed multitude” “Figured” a golden calf through which they made a feast unto the Lord, ended up worshiping the holy cow then & now & its many gods, the gods of the golden calf are what is revealed in the Israeli Court, defines the worship of the created instead of the Creator, that leads these.

  12. No point discussing this video within its self-defined framework, while ignoring the bigger picture.
    BBC is now a fully controlled tentacle of Rothschild-Reuters mind shaping media empire, so it behooves us to examine their motives for putting this out.

    The show purportedly weighs in an impartial manner the “competing” interests of public privacy and need to combat “terrorism”.
    As if the Luciferian elite didn’t know what the real definition of terrorism encompasses.


    (Protocol 9)
    This is exactly what you are seeing here, not just In the video but the video itself.

    The bewigged (8:53), aloofly smirking David Anderson QC, Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation, the Queen’s Counsel telling us that in order to fish out that one sliver of information pertinent to “terrorism”, the dragnet must reach for every last bit of information about each and every individual on planet.
    Or at 15:00, pious bleating about Islamic State, how Snowden’s spilling the beans on NSA and GCHQ alerted IS about whate their “enemies” (more like paymasters) might be thinking.

    This is why the whole thing seems to me like a grand puppet show, doesn’t smell fresh.
    Why doesn’t Snowden, who as per own claims had unlimited access to everything have anything to say on the subject of the true masters?
    Russians are stuck with him, like it or not and I am sure that they long ago figured him out.
    But not to offer him “asylum” would make them villains in the eyes of the liberals, now wavering toward Russia, everywhere.

    As the dark wisdom of the Protocols figures, after so much terrorism and confusion and suspicion of phony governments, the Unthinking Mob (Goyim) will beg the Masters to benevolently take over the role of the Global Shepherd.

    Step by step.
    Unless in the last stand of true resistance, Russia and allies throw the wrench into the wheels of the juggernaut.

    1. @Lobro

      This is why the whole thing seems to me like a grand puppet show, doesn’t smell fresh. Why doesn’t Snowden, who as per own claims had unlimited access to everything have anything to say on the subject of the true masters?

      Very perceptive.

      Russians are stuck with him, like it or not and I am sure that they long ago figured him out.

      You bet. They figured him out even before he crossed the Russian borders.

      But not to offer him “asylum” would make them villains in the eyes of the liberals, now wavering toward Russia, everywhere.

      Bingo! Putin, with his unique brand of wit, has compared engaging with “human right activists” like Snowden and Assange to shearing a piglet: it produces a lot of squealing, but little wool.—eto-kak

    2. @ Lobro

      Good observation.

      I bailed at the 15:00 episode when I grew tired of my bullsh*t meter being repeatedly pegged.

      In my view, all Snowden did was to instill more fear that the “masters” know everything everyone does which is completely dumb. There are not enough people to look at all the results of whatever computer programs that may be spitting out potential candidates for monitoring from around the world. Everyone should remember that the top priorities for government employees are breaks, lunch, leaving early to make up for arriving late, and bullsh*ting the boss about what they have done while pretending to be smart enough to make it in the real world of accomplishment. Only those without objective observational abilities and reasoning would embrace fear from this group of weasels.

      So what if they record everything. They have been doing that since 1948 with Project Echelon with the Five Eyes which has changed names a few times. Only the names, media, and tools have changed, same crap, different day.

      There is always a wrench in the jews’ works from power competition to the truth or they would have already accomplished their world tyranny instead of continuing to lose control as they have done over the past 25 years.

      1. Yes Ungenius, their power is mirrored in our ignorance and despite all the theatrics, their power is ebbing away because the goyums are catching on in ever increasing numbers.

        All the weepy piety of Spielberg’s schmaltz cannot disguise the stench at the root.

  13. Well, there’s a half hour of my life I’ll never get back. @24.08 he agrees it’s technically impossible to devise a backdoor to encrypted comms, then flatly contradicted by the Facebook guy who says it’s no problem for them.

    Maybe Snowden actually believes it all, he’s the Manchurian whistleblower. Who knows, bottom line who cares? Is there anything of substance or verifiable in all his schtique? Just a pinup boy for the thinking woman, may I suggest.

    1. pinup boy for the thinking woman

      about sums it up.
      Well, it’s hitting more than half of goyim, emotional and aesthetic hit at the emotionally and aesthetically vulnerable audience.

  14. Another thing: just what has this video accomplished apart from convincing us of their omnipotence, something we have our own, in-house zakie to remind us of.

    A qualified benevolent omnipotence, with a suitable dose of menace, divine carrot and stick waved before the goy donkey beast of burden to train it into hopeless, unquestioning obedience.

    “Even when we hurt you, it is for your own good, so be grateful for pain and ask for more” – Kabbala For Dummies.

  15. “This isn’t about fucking money, you morons. They want us gone.” (Scott Roberts with his most potent delivery to date)

    I too get fed up with people thinking it’s all about money. Money, money, money. All money does is get the low minions to play along. They own the central banks, they have a monopoly on money creation, and they use money to manipulate human behavior. That’s it.

    Scott is one of the few with a crystal clear conception of what is going on right now.

    Sometimes you don’t have to look far to find something to talk about. You don’t have to wait for the voice in your head, it just shows up and throws it in your face. Part of your mind, or someone’s mind says that every one of these creatures should be rounded up and put on trial, followed by the quick and speedy execution of capital punishment, or life in prison, without hope of parole. That includes the oilmen performing it; the politicians permitting it, the oversight and enforcement agencies ignoring it, those explaining it and those… –

    -those only concerned with milking the greatest rent from their railroad flat apartments, greasy spoons and whatever side of the road, cash hijacking machines they’ve set up to wring some temporary vermin profit from it, can be left to the fate of vermin, once the plunder leaves town and all that remains are wide wastes where nothing grows and deep pits of wet, stinking, death assured, hot weather swimming pools for their stunted, hillbilly heroin addicted, children.

    Corollary incidentals always appear in tandem with these things and even members of the socio-political retard army can see the connection …but what’s the fun or profit in that? Isn’t it just better to let this shit go on and get all righteous and weepy about the backend, drowning in a rain of hypocritical tears, as you bemoan the loss of so many things, caused by global hand-warmers at fixed football games?

    The people doing these things are the spiritual offspring of serial killers and mass murdering psychopaths. They know what they’re doing and they know what happens but it just doesn’t matter and… maybe, at this point it doesn’t. Most of the population is in bed with it on some level; some are just sleeping in better accommodations, some of them even have their own idea of environmental awareness and a love of Nature and some of them are into consciousness improving retreats, where they can take a few minutes to rationalize it all and come to peace with it. Of course, whether it comes to peace about it, with them, is another story.

    Once the sleepwalking, wide load, expando-pants, shit for brains, consumer zombies can really, absolutely, no longer put “food on their families” and the ones who haven’t yet been matriculated to another world, by their murderous and insane progeny, or the temporary berserker status of the head of the household, or some relative come back from foreign killing fields, who can’t live with themselves or you anymore; once it finally dawns on them that they have to go live in their car and they can’t afford the gas to run the heater in their car, when winter comes, in order to take a nice carbon monoxide nap, prior to a morning that never arrives, when they meant, with all good intentions, to head down to the Slurpee factory, to see if they were taking on part time, day laborers, it’s possible… it’s possible that enough of them will get together and storm their houses of government and drag the toads, lampreys and pigs from their paneled offices and dispense the justice they should have gotten a long time before but… there’s no telling how it will all sort out. It won’t sort out well in most places, that’s pretty much a given.

    The above goes with this video, (“The Roach Motel at the End of the Universe”)

    1. Thanks for the segue, Baxter


      “They” are the ultimate materialists whose chieftan couldn’t bribe Christ in the wilderness. A pathetic attempt that didn’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell of succeeding with a man having intimate knowledge of the illusory nature of a world straddled with matter. A world removed from its etherealness. A burden to be endured by those who would listen to the exemplary one but would not hear. Those charged with upholding the moral ground yet being OF the world instead.

      And don’t be fooled, friends. Rationalizations rear their ugly heads in many ways to upset what would otherwise mean having proper perspectives. It isn’t LOVE of money which is the root of all evil. It is money in and of itself. Love of money and usury merely exacerbate a condition which is flawed to begin with. “Love of” denotes a verb, but only a noun, “money”, can signify the “root”. The “evil seed” is the disorientation called “matter”.

      “…money, a malignant root which has spread a disease throughout the whole world, and produced materialistic blooms littering a desecrated wasteland.”

      1. And ya know, Pat, I don’t mean to denigrate money, necessarily. It’s just that it’s so uninteresting….mundane is the word

      2. B-Hawk –

        Yes, I know.
        The leaders are counting on lack of excitement and interest on your part, concerning debt.
        It was important enough to get Jesus mad enough to use a whip and kick asses… and to include it in his prayer. “Forgive us our DEBTS.”

        Many do not even do their own taxes and checkbook balancing.
        So…. Forget understanding the debt control reasons…..
        ….. the real force pushing the immigration issue….
        …. into US, Canada and EU.

        At the same time pushing out white folks…. who are not reproducing.

        We are culling ourselves.
        No need for mass exterminations, with White reproduction rates at 1.6…!! DONE DEAL!!

      1. Ya know that breakfast you mentioned earlier?

        Out in the boondocks where I am…

        In the Spring I tap the maple trees and make my syrup
        In the Summer I stalk the wild blueberries
        I barter for the flour and butter (I have a horse, not a cow) and mix it with natural spring water that I bottle myself
        Any time of the year I cook the pancakes on an open wood fire drawing from my stockpile of wood that I’ve gathered
        That breakfast is beyond delicious. Maybe because I’m older now, I’d say it’s better than sex. Although I think I might have come to that conclusion even when I was a young man!

        I go without money as much as I’m able, but the bastards still pull their extortion bit called property taxes on me so I have to come up with at least some of the illegal tender.

        And that will be the real tipping point – making the stuff so difficult to come by, and then justifying removing you from your land when you don’t.

        That’ll be my cue to either go out with guns a blazin or hop on my trusty steed and ride off into the sunset!

      2. BH, I picked a quarter peck of hickory nuts this very day. Big ones. A good year!
        They’re top tier treasure on the menu!

      3. hp

        I hear alot of nuts are falling from the trees this year. The trees’ instincts are telling them there’s a need for more saplings to replenish the dwindling numbers

        The squirrels are all over the place with alot of work to do. You might say they’re goin’ nuts! 😉

    2. @Baxter

      I almost feel sorry for your guy Scott Roberts. Just listen to this

      He is completely lost in the woods comprised of two trees, and he does not even know it! In the meantime, I have very little doubt that he is sincere in his raving. That’s what makes it so fascinating.

      What are these two trees? The first one is Putin is for the Jews against the whites, and the second one is Putin is for the whites against the Jews. And he goes on and on to prove that the “white nationalists” are barking up the wrong tree.

      It does not even occur to the poor guy that the whole discourse hinged on this dichotomy is so out of touch with reality as to become almost meaningless. Truly amazing!

  16. Hurrah for anyone who makes life more difficult for the Evil Empire (i.e., Israel and its toadies in the U.S. Congress). Stay in Moskva, young man, until the scum dogs in Washington give up the ghost. God willing, you may be able to return home in freedom and safety long before you are an old man. Meanwhile, enjoy your free time in Mockba; tomorrow, you may meet the woman who will change your life and strip you of any desire to return to a state at the brink of collapse. We, who are about to die, salute you.

  17. Do you think that those who post to sites like this are being profiled at the data repository in Utah so that when the Pharisees attain world domination they have a ready list of those who ought to be tortured and murdered with the highest priority to erase from human consciousness knowledge and exposure of the real history of humanity? I’ve observed how they like to erase cultures and write history to line up with their mythologies. It seems to me a matter of time before everyone on the planet has no knowledge of real history, only the myths made history by their Pharisee masters. They want to be creators of reality do they not? And those of any thinking capabilities who know things damaging to their Glory have got to go, do they not? I looked at torture methods used in places like Bolshevik Russia and it seemed to me that they sadistically delight in inflicting the most extreme tortures. Is that in store for Darkmoon posters, or am I fearmongering?

    1. “Do you think that those who post to sites like this are being profiled at the data repository in Utah so that when the Pharisees attain world domination they have a ready list of those who ought to be tortured and murdered with the highest priority to erase from human consciousness knowledge and exposure of the real history of humanity?”

      Probably not. The massive data collection is used primarily to blackmail or control politicians and diplomats that aren’t Jewish Khazars, It’s why the second a politician gets out of line he is exposed for being a homosexual or having an affair or insider trading. But when a politicians is so obviously corrupt but stays in line you see literally nothing happen to them. The spying is meant for people who are in politics or the military or are entering those fields.

      There are millions of people who hate Jews and Satan. They can’t round all of them up no matter how hard they try. That’s why the Antichrist will appear as Jesus Christ to the unsaved masses. They will WILLINGLY accept Jews as the “chosen ones” with no need for violence. And many dumb people on this site who deny God will think “wow this Jewish ruler really is God….I was wrong” because they have never read the Bible.

      “I’ve observed how they like to erase cultures and write history to line up with their mythologies. It seems to me a matter of time before everyone on the planet has no knowledge of real history, only the myths made history by their Pharisee masters.”

      They can’t erase the Bible according to God. And they’ve done a piss poor job at maintaining the Holocaust narrative not to mention a million other lies. They did such a poor job in the 1800s of telling lies that Hitler predicated that the Jews would go overboard with their “Big Lie” technique in the upcoming century. The Bible’s been around since Adam and Even and hardly anyone bothers to read it. Like it takes any skill at all to get people who worship the NFL and Soccer and Hollywood to ignore history books.

      “They want to be creators of reality do they not?”

      The Talmud teaches that when their messiah, Satan and the Antichrist, are ruling that all Jews will live forever and all gentiles will be nothing but slaves. And that Earth will become Heaven. Where did they get this from? They literally made it up with some influence from Satan. The early false Jewish gods are all named as versions Satan in the Old Testament. They want a world ruled by Jews that somehow magically transforms Jews into immortals and the goyim recognize the great “chosenites” and obediently serve them. Jesus said that when he returns to Earth he’ll actually force the Jews to kneel before him and all Christians, before he casts them into Hell and that it will be the worst moment of their lives.

      ” I looked at torture methods used in places like Bolshevik Russia and it seemed to me that they sadistically delight in inflicting the most extreme tortures.”

      People are tortured all of the time. Serial killers kidnap and torture people for their own fun. Fathers rape their daughters. Our military tortures people to get them to sign false confessions. You could be captured by some insane monster and immediately shot in the head. Or tortured for years by cancer “specialists” that make your last years an endless series of radiation blasts and headaches.

      Bolsheviks? Just call them the Synagogue of Satan. No different than Red China with its Dragon worship. Or Israel with its Star of Moloch flag. Or America with its New World Order money and Freemason and Illuminati founding fathers. They all serve the devil.

      1. Do you people really believe that Snowden is some super patriot who just happened to be able to steal all these NSA secrets, make it out of the US to Asia and then fly to Russia where he sits and exposes them without being murdered? Really? Really?

        Dr Parker

        What you wrote is basically true but they do round us up and murder us. Do they get everyone? No, some survive unto the end. People like Snowden and other false opposition operatives say the things they do (sometimes with much truth) to get people to respond so the “Jews” know who to target and not when the time comes. Drudge, for example, recently came out saying a SCOTUS judge told him that internet freedom is going to die. How, why? Because they are corralling everyone on the net into select spaces to monitor and study and this is to do 3 basic things.
        1. Destroy independent sites
        2. Restrict unapproved speech
        3. Identify resisters

        I am becoming even more convinced that the first revolution against the “Jews” control will be completely controlled by the enemy and out of this will appear the main Anti Christ. Remember, when he comes on the scene he WILL fool the whole world and even the elect if that were possible.

        When the perfect storm hits (collapse of dollar/military invasion of our lands/”Gov” alphabet agencies coming after all dissenters in coordination with all whites/Europeans-believers external enemies) they will first target all leaders and potential leaders. Then they will round up the organizers. Lastly they will come for the foot soldier. This rounding up of the opposition to “Jew” rule will happen days, a day or hours before the perfect storm hits.

        My comments in brackets

        Mark 13 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives (Mount Zion) over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately, 4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled? 5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you: 6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet. 8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows. 9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them. 10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations. 11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. 12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. 13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (the 3rd Temple yet to be built) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains: 15 And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house: 16 And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment. 17 But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 18 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter. 19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be. 20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. 21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not: 22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. 23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. 24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

        Mark is relaying the things that must come to pass before the true Jesus returns. I believe whites/Europeans-believers/resisters will elect their own leader and march on “Israel” from the 4 corners where our nations are. Either that leader or someone else after we have taken the “Jews” JWO will arise , standing in the to be built 3rd temple. He later sits where he ought not sit upon the Ark/Throne)saying that he is God/Jesus/Buddha, Allah etc, . This man will unleash hell upon those inside of Judea and the whole world (including whites/Europeans-believers), thus everyone who believes is instructed to run for the hills and true believers will head for the Mount of Olives. Then the true Christ returns gathering up our other elect brothers/sisters at the four corners left in the nations and transports them to meet their kinfolk at Mount Zion (Mount of Olives). Christ then unleashes his 144,00 from Mount Zion upon the land of Israel as he deals with the Anti Christ himself. When the “Jews” and all who opposed his rule are slaughtered, the real new millennial Kingdom of I AM/Jesus begins

    2. Just heard on Press TV that big brother is alive and well in the jewish “state”. A guest on top five told of a young Palestinian woman named Asma, who tweeted her parents, declaring her willingness to become a martyr for Al Aqsa. She was immediately arrested, and is being held in detention.. Is this what awaits us?

  18. I can’t be bothered to read the comments. I can’t be bothered to give you links. Why on earth has this site put up this story? That is the question, isn’t it? What is going on?

    Snowdon doesn’t think Mossad has anything to do with 9/11. Julian Assange is false opposition. Charlie Drake knows. Why does Ass ange support the TRANSGENDER girlie freak Chelsea Manning. Get a life Lasha or whoever is running this “show”.

    1. @Red Onions

      Whoever is running the darkmoon show is simply putting articles up for readers to make of them what they will. Some articles I don’t even bother to read, knowing I’ll probably read commenters like yourself who sometimes know the score better than the writer of the article.

      Often you miss the best part when you stop reading the comment threads.

      1. @Brownhawk.

        “Often you miss the best part when you stop reading the comment threads.”

        Not on this occasion Brownhawk. Assange and all that jazz is DISINFORMATION. Don’t you know that? He thinks the US Government was complicit in 9/11, but he has NEVER MENTIONED US Jews or Mossad, Israel. By deception, thou shalt do war. That’s what the Talmud says … agreed or not?

    2. @ Red Onions

      Perhaps you should take the trouble to read and assimilate our website policy statement.

      1. This website accepts no responsibility for the opinions expressed in its Comments section; nor does it accept responsibility for the views expressed by any of its article writers, with the single exception of Lasha Darkmoon.

      2. Though we tend to agree with the broad assumptions of most of the writers we publish, we occasionally publish articles we disagree with strongly. Such articles are published to stimulate discussion and in the interests of free speech, not because we approve of them.

      This is the second time we have had to put up with your insolence and disrespect. If you don’t approve of the way we run this website, go elsewhere. We are not forcing you to post here.

  19. Deuidonne came to my door this evening.. It was one of our Congolese asylum seekers.. He was collecting for a just cause, rain forests, I think.. He is musical, so we discussed music.. Recently they brought home their new baby, so we discussed that.. I asked him his name, and he said it was Deuidonne, so we laughed about that.. He said they are arranging a concert here soon, so I hope we will be able to attend.. Will keep you posted..

    btw, I like red onions, he/she would be a big loss.. but, maybe, you have so many posters that one little loss is insignificant..

    1. @ Ingrid B

      btw, I like red onions, he/she would be a big loss.. but, maybe, you have so many posters that one little loss is insignificant..

      Posters tend to come and go. There is a constant turnover. Our best posters have never complained about our policies or given us needless insolence and disrespect.

      1. It’s part of the FUN of reading your site, Mr. Toby! 🙂

        Don’t be offended by the insolence and foul manners. Those make the comments more colorful and interesting (and the comments ARE, for the most part, very edifying). Yes, some of the commenters take it over-the-top, but they’re really no skin off anyone’s ass, because you’re not forcing any of us to tune-in. 🙂

        Anyhow, for for my two cent’s worth, I am inclined to agree with the train of thought that Snowden is ‘controlled opposition’. (In fact, Mr. Lobro, IMO, came closest to the context when he cited The Protocol alignment…)

      2. Toby/Tobias,I could be wrong, but I don`t think red onions meant to be insolent, or disrespectful, I think he/she is probably at a point many of us reach, where everything just seems hopeless, and we wonder why we bother. However, most of us are resilient and bounce back. Not sure if that`s always a good thing..

    2. @ Ingrid B

      btw, I like red onions, he/she would be a big loss..

      The only reason you like her is because she hasn’t insulted you. If she spat in your face, would you like her? It seems she makes a habit of spitting in people’s face. She spat in MY face when all I was doing was teasing her and pulling her leg gently . . .

      Personally, I don’t like the women on this site. I prefer the men. The men are more fun. They have a sense of humor. They know how to crack a smile. Above all, they know how to combine serious commenting with politeness and panache.

      1. I had blueberry panaches with maple syrup for breakfast.

        That’s damned serious good stuff… 😉 🙂

      2. @ Ingrid B

        “A faceful of spit in Osaka..”

        Tut tut! you show your anger and ill-feeling toward me quite plainly by this sneaky little comment, don’t you? OSAKA, as we all know, is where Sardonicus says he is based. So you are suggesting, are you not, that Sardonicus and I have a close connection, right? You are either suggesting that we are the same person or that we are intimately connected in some way.

        I’m not sure if Sardonicus will be pleased with this defamatory suggestion. I certainly am not. This isn’t the first time you have said this.

        Would you like to ask Toby if Sardonicus and I have the same IP number? That would settle the question. IQ numbers also reveal the country of origin of the poster. So if Sardonicus and I were posting from the same location, that too would be revealed.

        1. Sardonicus and Madame Butterfly have completely different IP addresses. Different locations. There is no indication that these two posters are connected in any way.

        1. @ Ingrid B

          You are obviously sincere in your belief that MB once signed off from Osaka, as did a poster called ‘Avenger’

          However, a google search on the internet will reveal that you are mistaken on both counts! 🙂

          Firstly, we have never had a poster called “Avenger”. If you google “Avenger, darkmoon comments”, no comments from anyone called Avenger can be found on this site.

          Secondly, your belief that Sardonicus and Madame Butterfly both signed off from Osaka is definitely based on confusion. I found this out by googling “Madame Butterfly, Osaka, darkmoon.” All I got was this link:

          You will note that Comment 1 is by Sardonicus. He gives his address as “Osaka, Japan.” Comment 2 is by Madame Butterfly, but nowhere in her comment is there any mention of “Osaka.”

          In your haste, you mistakenly thought that both of them were posting from Osaka. Only Sardonicus was. Their IP numbers, in any case, are totally different and belong in different parts of the world.

          Surely you can see that both Sardonicus and Madame Butterfly have every right to be angry with you for attacking them so needlessly with false accusations?

      3. Toby,

        You are wrong to say I am “angry” with Ingrid for getting me mixed up with Madame B. I was a bit baffled, wondering why she should make such a false allegation, but I was definitely not angry with her — though I think Madame B is.

        Ingrid is an excellent poster and has made some of the best comments on this site. Her sympathy for the Palestinians and her moral outrage against Israel make it very hard indeed for me to get angry with her. If it gives her pleasure to attack me, let her feel free to do so. She has my full permission! 🙂

      4. One second thoughts, I’m not even all that sure that Madame Butterfly is angry with Ingrid for accusing her falsely of being me . . . or of having some kind of close association with me. Madame B, though she has a foul tongue and can come across as Miss Legs from Hell, has two redeeming features: above-average intelligence and a sense of humour. It would be interesting to know what she thought of feminism.

      5. @ Ingrid B

        All I know is, MB once signed off from Osaka, as did Avenger..

        I have never signed off from Osaka. If had, there would be proof for this on the internet. You can offer no proof, can you? So you are lying!

        This website has never had a poster called ‘Avenger’, let alone a person with this name writing from Osaka. If there had been such a poster, there would be a record of his posts on the internet. Again, you can offer no proof of this, can you? So you are lying!

        Do I mind? Yes, I do! I don’t mind being hated and attacked for good reason, but I get kind of angry when people like you make up completely false stories about me and make out that Sardonicus and I are the SAME person or that we’re sharing the same bed in Osaka. Aren’t you ashamed of making up such malicious lies?

        Why do you do it? Personal problems? Can’t get a man? Your family hates you? You’re growing old and one step closer to the grave with each day?

        Yeah, well we all have these problems darlin’ . . . but we don’t need to tear other people’s eyes out because we happen to be desperately unhappy.

        GET A LIFE!!!

  20. I’m glad Snowden doesn’t trust that he won’t be killed. He would absolutely be killed because the rulers of the U. S. are thugs and killers. Shocking how much of our tax dollars go to these criminal activities.

    I can’t help commenting on the drift of conversation to religion because it has been on my mind as well. I am a practicing Christian, yet I am very disappointed in my religion for wimping out and being such sycophants to the criminal elite. They disappoint at every turn–hmm they would probably turn Snowden in because they never stand up for truth.

    Overall this has been a wretched year for organized religion:
    1. Judaism ranks the worst with their low grade war over the Temple Mount where the “settlers backed by the military” are pushing to rebuild the Third Temple on what according to archeologists was a Roman horse stable. Couldn’t they find some vacant piece of land somewhere that isn’t an Arab village or a Muslim Holy Site to rebuilt the Temple? Why a Roman horse stable.
    2. Christianity managed to grovel to the power elite over practically everything from fetal tissue in vaccines, which they push on their parishioners to the sale of aborted body parts, which they totally ignored. The Pope practically endorsed everything the global elite wants including population reduction to accommodate the global warming hoax and agenda 21. Hmm Insisting on everyone taking in a family of refugees(???) who desecrate Christian buildings. He is the perfect Pope to push a thoroughly anti-religious, neo-liberal agenda.
    3. Islam distinguished itself with a stampede at Mina during the Hajj. Crowd control is somehow unholy I guess.

    Those of us who still belong to religions have to winch because what else can we do… it’s all too stupid.

    1. @ Kapoore

      I am a practicing Christian, yet I am very disappointed in my religion for wimping out and being such sycophants to the criminal elite…

      Me too. But it’s not the religion that has wimped out. It’s the people running the religion.

      1. Religion is nothing but a spiritual government.

        And like any other government, it is run by cliques unconcerned with needs of the stated beneficiaries.

      2. “Religion is nothing but a spiritual government.”

        And, as government, it fails without financial support.

    2. …and you could add, it wasn’t the Jooos who killed Jesus the Christ, it was the Romans. Projection at its best by the followers of the Demon. Even the the silly arse pope spouts this nonsense…

      1. In fact, he was killed by an assortment of nails, gravity, hyperthermia, crown of thorns, shortness of breath and similar nasty stuff.
        Moneychangers were only minding their business.

    3. ” Islam distinguished itself with a stampede at Mina during the Hajj.” :

      Kapoore, by all accounts, mostly from survivors, there was no stampede at the hajj, it was described as a crush, and was probably engineered by the saudis, who blocked off roads, thereby causing a massive pileup. The saudis are unIslamic, and are responsible for the deaths of many Shia Muslims, in Iraq, Syria, and now Yemen. Many of the pilgrims who died at Mina, were Iranian Shia, and many are still “missing”..

      1. Quite true and believable, I think it was a false flag against Iranian pilgrims by the Saudi Donmeh cryptos in power.
        Disgusting pigs, ain’t no Muslims any more than ISIS and their Avatar groupie dealing dope in Venezuela … what’s he doing there anyway, some Mossad subversion of Maduro government?

    4. @ Kapoore
      @ Lasha
      @ Lobro

      There is a big difference between religion and organized religion relative to Christianity. The Christian religion is about personal beliefs (spiritual), and personal actions pertaining to the teachings of Jesus. Organized religion is not personal. Organized religion is structural and, therefore, not spiritual which makes it of this world and susceptible to corruption just like any organization.

      Jesus did not teach organization in the Gospels. There was no head or in-charge Apostle. Jesus did not identify or sanction any title in an organization like deacon, priest, pastor, minister, bishop, cardinal, pope, etc. in his church because Jesus is the church, not a group or building. Paul was the one that established organizational titles and hierarchy in organized Christianity. It should be remembered that Paul was a “reformed” Pharisee and sometimes old habits die hard.

      There is no need to feel disappointed that any organized Christian religion you may be affiliated with does not represent your views. There is no such thing as any organized Christian religion that reflects the views of all of their paying members just like there is no such thing as group salvation.

      I personally gave up on organized Christianity decades ago and became free to develop my personal understanding of the teachings of Jesus in the Gospels without interference or influence from organizational dogma and doctrines. I not longer sit in a congregation disagreeing with most everything said by the “leader” of the congregation. I view churches primarily as social clubs since there is little to no conversations between members about the teachings of Jesus for fear of disagreement and chastisement. Instead for the past 9 years, I participate in a weekly conference call with people separated by considerable distance with the understanding that honorable disagreement is perfectly fine and that no money ever changes hands. No one is in charge and moderation is by a different person each week.

    5. The Roman horse stable has to do with what flies are attracted to.

      Some sort of law of attraction retrogression going back 2,000 or so years 😉

  21. @Lobro, and other pro-Russia folks, interesting article on The Truthseeker, with reports by Thierry Meyssan in Damascus and Stanislav Byshok in Moscow describing “Russian Secret Weapon Deployed in Syria”, which effectively protects designated areas from attack..

    1. Thanks, Ingrid, will look it up.
      I love secret weapons, kung-fu ninjas running on side walls and all that stuff.

    2. Read it, all perfectly true and well known to the US military, they learned first hand last year when USS Cook was left as blind as a boatload of refugees in the Black Sea after buzzed by SU-24 that first jammed them then did a dozen simulated missile attacks.

      The officers tendered their resignations upon return to Romania, not wishing to be sitting ducks and waste lives of sailors needlessly.

      1. It made me laugh, must have been tough for the poor saps, who had to sit helpless, whilst being made to look foolish, and so it should be, disarm the warmongers, and make them look foolish..

    1. Very good article Rehmat, and excellent video of Philip Giraldi. It seems there are those in the US who are sick and tired of their “best friend”..

  22. rita
    my life already
    speel burgs son isis jihad die john.

    not quite but close another yahudi pretending to be a mussel lim

    The white British son of a film director has converted from Catholicism to Islam and become an al-Qaeda fighter in Syria, the MailOnline can reveal.

    an old favorite
    Fake Al Qaeda Actors EXPOSED! Adam Gadahn & Yousef al-Khattab

    1. @charles drake, yes, I`d say the daily mail piece is just another attempt at demonising Islam. The mother is a little strange, took her two years to worry about her son..

  23. Just so it is clear: it is a one way hourglass that cannot be reversed.

    All of us came out of ignorance and there is no going back.
    How many Holohoax doubters have rejoined the herd of believers?
    Has anyone all of a sudden accepted the 911 dogma?

    Just like Amazing Grace … I was blind but now I see … I see the Jew behind the curtains.

  24. his father is mossad and worked as cia
    5 Reasons That Snowden Is Probably A PsyOp…
    EDWARD SNOWDEN IS MARK ZUCKERBERG’S COUSIN Snowden Documentarian Laura Poitras, Like The NSA, Claims TOR Protects Citizen’s Privacy The Theater of Media Operations: Snowden Analyzed The Real Snowden – John McCarthy! Jullian ASSange & Snowden Are CIA / Mossad Assets. NSA Hoax – Edward Snowden Edward Snowden’s real last name is Greenberg. He is a cousin to Jacob Greenberg (aka. Mark Zuckerberg). They’re grandsons of David Rockefeller. see comments sect. ‘Spy services feed info to whistleblowers to keep tabs on site visitors’


    An outstandingly comprehensive article about the massive data repository in Utah.

    When communism is a global tyranny overtly I suspect that data repository will come in real handy when decided what kind of tortures to dole out upon the pathetic goyim.

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