What Russia Hopes To Achieve In Syria: The Saker’s viewpoint

downloadThe Saker has dismissed as “crap” the story we published a few days ago entitled “Exclusive: Russia Threatens To Shoot Down Israeli Jets Over Syria,” a story that went viral all over the internet.  The Saker seems anxious to present Israel in a more favorable light as a responsible nation that is far too “smart” and “pragmatic” to get itself into a humiliating imbroglio with Russia.

He writes: “Moscow has no hostile plans towards Israel whatsoever and, by all accounts, the Russians and Israeli officials get along famously, if only because both sides are smart and pragmatists (they don’t need a love fest, they need responsible behavior).”

In the following article, the Saker presents an overall picture of the current situation in Syria with the practiced eye of a military expert.  (LD)

08R_RUSSIAN CRUISE STRIKES NARROW

. . . by The Saker

A lot has happened in the last few hours. Putin spoke at the UN, the Russian Parliament has approved the use of Russian military forces in Syria and Sergei Ivanov has given the Russian media a detailed explanation for the reasons which made the Kremlin request such an authorization. The picture has finally become much clearer.

What will not happen:

There will be no “ Most Anticipated Showdown in Recent History ”: no Russian ground operation, no Russian imposition of a no-fly zone (especially not against the US or its allies!), no MiG-31s, no Russian Airborne Forces, no Russian tanks on the frontlines, no Russian SSBN (nuclear weapons carrying) submarines and probably no significant Russians military presence around Damascus. In fact, there will be no Russian unilateral military operation of any kind. All that nonsense can now finally be put to rest.

What will happen:

The Russian military operation will be legal on all levels: the Russians have received a formal request for military assistance from the Syrian government, the Russian Parliament has given its authorization, and Russia will seek a UN Security Council authorization. The Russian military operation will be officially limited to air operations including bombings and close air support. The main hub of the Russian operation will be in Latakia.Crucially, Russia will act as a part of a broad coalition.

It would be a mistake to focus primarily on what will happen next. I would argue that what has already happened is far more significant.

What has already happened:

Putin has basically forced the USA to accept the Russian plan. Kerry has told CNN that the US policy for Syria will be “adjusted” – in other words the US is giving up on the notion of ousting Assad, officially temporarily. NATO has declared that it would welcome a positive role for Russia in Syria. The Pentagon has followed the Israeli example and has decided to open a special communications channel to coordinate Russian and US operations. Considering the above, I suppose that the US will give its Bulgarian colony the order to stop closing its airspace to Russian aircraft.

Finally, I will make some guesses as to what might happen next.

What might also happen:

First, I would not be surprised if the Russians did declare that it was their standard operating procedure to protect their military installations with air defense systems. And then would finally bring in their S-300s (I am aware of rumors that the S-300s are already there, but I have seen no confirmation so far). I would expect the Israelis to feel particularly miserable about that, and I would not be surprised if the Russians offered guarantees that these systems would remain exclusively under Russian control. What is already certain is that Netanyahu did fly to Moscow to address issues of Russian-Israeli is not “cooperation” then at least “non-interference”.

I would add here that Moscow has no hostile plans towards Israel whatsoever and that, by all accounts, the Russians and Israeli officials get along famously, if only because both sides are smart and pragmatists (they don’t need a love fest, they need responsible behavior).

Second, the official Russian military presence in Syria will give the Russians the perfect cover for all sorts of covert efforts including the delivery of equipment, joint intelligence operations and even direct action missions. I don’t think that this will be a major part of the Russian effort, but now the option is definitely here.

Third, and this is admittedly 100% my own speculations, I believe that the entire Russian military effort will be a cover for something else: a larger Iranian and Hezbollah involvement. Why? For one thing, there is only that much any air operation can achieve. There is no reason to assume that a very small Russian Air Force contingent will significantly change the course of the war.

The total failure of the NATO airforces over Kosovo has proven that air operations are, by themselves, of very limited capability, and, unlike the NATO in Kosovo, Russia will send a rather small contingent of aircraft. However, the presence of the Russian Air Force in the Syrian skies could conveniently “explain away” any sudden military reversals for Daesh, especially if the real reason for such reversals would be a beefed up Iranian intervention. Again, I have absolutely no information confirming any of that, but I personally expect a sharp rise in the Iranian and Hezbollah efforts to bush back Daesh.

Evaluation:

In purely military terms this is a rather minor development. Yes, the Syrian Air Force badly needs some modernization (the fact that they are using helicopter-dropped 500kg barrel bombs is a proof that they don’t have enough aircraft to deliver guided or even unguided 500kg aerial bombs) and the Russians will be bringing some very capable aircraft (SU-24s and SU-25s for sure, and in some specific cases they could even use Tu-22M3s and SU-34s). But this will not be a game changer. Politically, however, this marks yet another triumph for Vladimir Putin who has forced the US Empire to renounce its plans to overthrow Assad. Because, and make no mistake here, the Russians are now there to stay: a limited Russian military presence will now turn into a major Russian political commitment. Furthermore, not only will Tartus continue to serve a fairly limited but not irrelevant role for the Russian Navy, the airbase in Latakia will become a hub of Russian military operations and, in effect, a forward operating base for the Black Sea Fleet.

Conclusion: a game changer after all?

Yes. But not because of some Russian military move. Consider this: for the United States the main purpose of Daesh was to overthrow Assad. Now that the US is declaring that they “don’t plan to arm the Syrian rebels at the moment” and that Assad will not be overthrown, the utility of Daesh to the AngloZionist Empire has just taken a major hit. If the Empire decides that Daesh has outlived its utility and that it has now turned into a liability, then the days of Daesh are counted.

Of course, I am under no illusions about any real change of heart in the imperial “deep state”. What we see now is just a tactical adaptation to a situation which the US could not control, not a deep strategic shift. The rabid russophobes in the West are still out there (albeit some have left in disgust ) and they will now have the chance to blame Russia for anything and everything in Syria, especially if something goes really wrong. Yes, Putin has just won another major victory against the Empire (where are those who claimed that Russia had “sold out” Syria?!), but now Russia will have to manage this potentially “dangerous victory”.

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46 thoughts on “What Russia Hopes To Achieve In Syria: The Saker’s viewpoint

  1. IF this is reliable conjecture, it seems the situation in the ME is finally going to be more responsibly managed, even in terms of improving the lives of the common folk, there. It seems that Russia is bringing a breath of Maturity to the squabbling factions (STABILITY!), and I hope Mr. Putin lives long enough to help it settle into an acceptable lifestyle for awhile. That is a good thing for Peace and Prosperity. The United States has mismanaged its functions there as referee, and needs to concentrate on cleaning up its OWN house rather than policing the rest of mankind. In terms of ‘business’, energy hegemony must be foremost of Putin’s concerns, and we can WITNESS, now, the steady positive trend (for big corporate interests) in gas and oil (depending on your $ interests), and Russia will have to behave itself for that very reason, if for nothing else. 🙂

  2. Why on earth would Putin seek approval from the UNSC? Russia would not get it, and thus, if Russia continues to aid syria, would be open to criticism as a rogue state who disregards the authority of the UN. It is sufficient justification for Russian presence in Syria that is it was invited by the legitimate Syrian government.

    As for Israel and its “pragmatism” – it is possible that Israel will nbot get involved, but the Saker did not consider or cover the fact that Israel and the Jewish Supremacist mindset group has been getting others to do the fighting on their behalf for sometime.

    I can already hear the bottles of Yenta Valley Whine being opened in Tel Aviv.

    1. What this does (for my way af thinking, a POSITIVE move!) is to further subordinate the influence of the UN. As an American, I have come to despise its multi-cultural influence on my country – and if my country allows itself to be ruled from thence, it is time for a CHANGE. If it takes the Russian Putin to bring us to our senses, so be it.

    2. Taras –

      “Why on earth would Putin seek approval from the UNSC?”

      Easy answer….

      Putin has said many times he will do whatever the Zionist run UN wishes him to do. He is a ‘Company Man’ there.

      From his mouth:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFMQz6AN3B0

      Wants to fight ‘terrorism’ just like Bush started. (numerous times)

      Would continue to support Bush’s work in the Middle East. (7:20)

      SUPPORTS ALL decisions of the UN. (10:41)

      1. Could it be that Putin is merely going through motions? The wise man (or perhaps the weak man) says only time will tell. I do not mind being called weak if I honestly saya that I do not know what will happen or what Putin’s game is. So far he does not appear to be part of the NWO.

        Have you/anyone seen this?

        http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2673254&tid=107576 (use google translate)

        The gist is

        QUOTE: Russia asks Britain for assistance in establishing contacts with the Syrian free army to coordinate efforts in fighting “Islamic state”. “Russian side would be grateful to British partners for assistance in establishing contacts with the “Free Syrian army” (FSA) on the subject of coordination between it and the armed forces of Syria in fight against ISIL, as well as the possible involvement of the SAA in the political process”, — stated in the message on the website of the Russian Embassy in London. Russian Ambassador “expressed interest in receiving from the British side available information regarding the infrastructure of extremists to increase the effectiveness of air strikes”. ENDQUOTE

        THIS looks like the Russian Bear is toying with a potentially weak link in the rusted chain armour of Nato. Russia does not expect Britain to help, but by asking and Britain not helping, Russia’s request will further expose the Nato hypocrisy.

        If only Russia could manage to expose Nato’s Pharisy (sic), so that the Nato citizens would GET THE FUCK OUT THERE – and yes I am shouting (not at the posters here) but at ordinary people who have yet to awaken.

  3. Gee, you would think jews didn’t even exist when reading ‘the saker’. Anybody took a look at what’s on ‘the saker’? A quote from an 80’s movie came to mind when I did: “…. you niggerlovin’ commie jew boy”. And that, in a nutshell, is ‘the cointel saker’, ladies and gentlemen.

    1. @1138. Thanks. I don’t know much about “The Saker”, but I’m going to look him up. Something not right here.

  4. He writes: “Moscow has no hostile plans towards Israel whatsoever and, by all accounts, the Russians and Israeli officials get along famously, if only because both sides are smart and pragmatists (they don’t need a love fest, they need responsible behavior).”

    israel and jews don’t want “responsible behaviour”, only when it suits their bank accounts. What a load of absolute SHITE.

    Don’t sue me, don’t jew me, they don’t really care about us.

      1. I was told that Mike Jackson, Mike Jordan and Bill Cosby, among other prominent black Americans had a private seminar with Louis Farrakhan and the author of “Secret Relationship Between Blacks And Jews”, to understand who the enemy is, ie, who brought all the African slaves to the New World, at what cost to people and what gain to Jew-thing.
        Well, look at what happened to Jackson and Cosby.

        There is only one enemy who understands perfectly the principle that Divided We Fall.

      2. Hell Pat, these days everyone wants a medal.
        From Bronze Stars awarded to supply troops in Topeka, to medals and even statues for cops who crash and burn racing around like maniacs.

        I’m thinking about applying for one!

    1. The message I got was that a “false flag” incident is being planned, which will be blamed on Russia..

  5. Dear Mister Saker,

    Duh?! ISIS = Greater Israel as per the Yinon Plan vis-à-vis the TalMUD

    Any strike against ISIS by the Russians is a Strike and Extreme Act of Hostility against Israel and kikejews!

    Dear Admin,

    Love the photo of the sleek Russian Sizzler… a rocket scientist’s and Antisemite’s (like moi) wet dream.

    PS
    So far there have been 26 Russian sizzling missile strikes against ISIS that we know of. I say the more strikes the merrier.

    BTW, Mister Saker, I’m the bloke who keeps posting anti-Semitic comments at your site and I thank you for not censoring me. When you refer to “Jew-Haters” you are no doubt referring to me. Thanks, I’ll take that as a compliment and validation of my efforts to tell the Truth and nothing but the Truth, so help me God.

    So long for now, I’m off to eat an American Sizzler. https://bkdelivers.com/#

  6. “I would add here that Moscow has no hostile plans towards Israel whatsoever”

    Big duh kimosabe! Considering how Jews have been strutting around and bragging for years about how they are the third, or maybe even second, largest nuclear power on the planet.

    When it comes to these internal matters, I discovered long ago, virtually everything I thought I knew about the situation was wrong. Invariably, there is too much information lacking to make any accurate assessment of the situation – and that is exactly the way Jews want it. Therefore, I have reverted to the role of questioning observer in such matters.

    1. – addendum to the above comment

      This is nothing more than Jews spinning us round and round on matters of which we have no understanding and no control over. Matters of minutiae that only serve to distract and misdirect away from the real issue. One may as well watch Oprah or Jerry Springer for comparable conjecture on these matters. Stick to the real issue – the Jew.

  7. Two things,
    Whoever approves the attack by Russia on Syria`s brave resistance fighters approves also … in a more subtle way…the attacks by the Jews on Gaza … ; there is no other way to put it, thats how we muslims see it.
    I am not gonna defend the undefendable… i am with the mayority.
    deep in our hearts -and not so deep- …
    we muslims love ISIS
    Two-
    Condolences to the people of Doctors Without Frontiers whom the “glorious, brave, proud, heroic, democratic, liberty spreaders, freedom bringers”, cheap toilet paper with shit on it United States Air Force just got through slaughtering in afghanistan
    what a joke of a race whites are
    I AM THE AVATAR, I AM A PALESTINIAN

    1. i am avatar
      its my avatar
      i am cohen
      son of kleinfelt
      gold smelter
      counter of trinkets i
      call my treasure.
      i am avatar
      sayanim hasbara
      my life already

  8. @LD

    Hello Lasha. I’ve been following the Saker for quite some time now and I can say with a high degree of confidence he either does not understand, or pretends not to understand Jewish power.
    Gilad Atzmon, for one, during an interview with him, pointed him in the right direction but still…

    That said, he is hostile to Zionism, make no mistake about it. He has also stated very clearly to be a fan of the lebanese militia Hezbollah. And notice he calls the empire the anglo-zionist empire.

    The saker is generally correct that Russia does not seek confrontation with shitty little israel but the fact of the matter remains that its independent foreign policy in the Middle East IS COMPLETELY at odds with zionist goals.

    Although the war in Syria has many fathers, the main daddy is zionism and this is absolutely clear from the record.
    There are wiki cables which confirm this.
    Basically, after the idf humiliating defeat in Lebanon in 06, the zionists decided they had to disrupt the arch of resistence to israels hegemony by targeting Syria. This would also completely destabilize the fragile new Iraq, which had naturally(since its shia majority and Iran is a strong regional power) shifted towards Iran. This was a disaster, given the original zio plan was to take out Iraq and Afghanistan quickly and move on to the next targets. If one looks at a map, Iran was being encircled with US forces positioned on Irans Western and Eastern borders and in the Gulf Arab emirates. Unexpected armed resistance in both Iraq and Afghanistan totally upset all zio plans. The end result was a strenghtened “Shia crescent” challenging Israels hegemony.
    That is the reason for the proxy war on Syria;
    1- Deny Hezbollah the strategic depth that Syria provides it. Surround it, including in Lebanon itself, with various Waahabi millitant groups. This would also make weapons deliveries from Iran to Hezb much more difficult.

    2- Create reason for ZUSA TO interfere in Iraq again, by propping up ISIS/DAESH.

    3- If all had gone according to plan, all of Irans few regional allies would be either destroyed or severely weakened. Iran itself would remain totally isolated.

    But the Zio plans have not gone according to the script. The US led coalition had expected the Syrian government to collapse quickly. They badly underestimated the support level Assad has and the resilience of Syrias armed forces. The Syrian government and military, which, unlike what msm presstitutes claim, is sunni majority, have continued to resist and function. They control most of the governorate capitals, in part or in total; 12 out of 14.

    I generally agree with the saker that the russian military footprint in Syria will remain a limited one. It’ll be probably mostly done through air power/cruise missiles/intel to support the Syrian ground forces operations. This has already started, with the syrian army launching offensives in the Hama governorate and elsewhere.
    Iran may send some of its ground forces into Syria, but even if this happens, i expect most of the heavy lifting to be carried out by the Syrian army and paramititaries.
    Hezbollah has already been fighting in Syria since 2013, and very successfully, i might add.
    But given its small population base and the risks of the israelis taking advantage of the thinning out of hezbollah troops in Lebanon, there is only so much they can contribute to the Syrian war effort. So far, the most reliable sources report that at no given point in time has Hezbollah deployed more than some 6,000 men to Syria.
    The syrians will do most of the fighting on the ground and with Russian air power, sat. intel, etc, i expect they can succeed.

  9. saker took a break after these comments below.
    he got it wrong instead of moving on he went on holiday.
    i like his site maybe like jones tarpley and all the others he gives the rabbi an easy time because he does not want to make an enemy of the mossad kidron suicided crews.
    he gets a lot right
    but

    from saker

    Now I want to make something unambiguously clear: I am NOT, repeat, NOT affirming that there is no Russian military operation going on. It is *possible* that there is some kind of Russian military operation going on. But what I am saying is that there is a huge conceptual distance between “possible” and “likely” and that, at this point in time, there is exactly zero evidence for such an operation.

    Now I want to make something unambiguously clear: I am NOT, repeat, NOT affirming that there is no Russian military operation going on. It is *possible* that there is some kind of Russian military operation going on. But what I am saying is that there is a huge conceptual distance between “possible” and “likely” and that, at this point in time, there is exactly zero evidence for such an operation.

  10. On the 27th April 2015, the Saker site ran this story, by Russia Today.

    “The Jews of Russia must realize the dangers inherent in the possible collapse of the Putin government, understand the rules of the game and be aware of the limitations,” the head of Russian Federation of Jewish Communities Aleksandr Boroda said at an annual Jewish learning event, which was organized by Limmud FSU.

    The conference, which saw around 1,400 participants attend, opened on Friday at the state-owned Klyasma resort in the Moscow region.

    Boroda mentioned that Putin’s government provides more guaranteed support for the Jews than those in Europe and the US, adding that Russian religious institutions are better protected against anti-Semitism, while other countries don’t provide enough security.

    “In Russia, there is virtually unlimited freedom of religion and the Jewish community must ensure this situation continues,” Boroda said. “We do not have the privilege of losing what we have achieved and the support of the government for the community.”

    All Russian Jews, especially those who oppose Putin and his administration “must understand the grave dangers that they take upon themselves and the potential consequences,” he added.

    The acting government has supported the renovation of dozens of synagogues and funded the establishment of a large Jewish museum in Moscow.”

  11. The ADL says anti-semitism is down in Russia! Yeah, I hate polls and the ADL, but here it is anyway.

    “The 2015 poll reported increases in anti-Semitic views beyond the margin of error in Romania (47 percent in 2015, up from 35 percent), in Italy (29 percent in 2015, up from 20 percent), and in The Netherlands (11 percent in 2015, up from 5 percent). Decreases in anti-Semitic views were found in Poland (37 percent in 2015, down from 45 percent), in RUSSIA (23 percent in 2015, down from 30 percent, and in Ukraine (32 percent in 2015, down from 38 percent).”

    http://www.adl.org/press-center/press-releases/anti-semitism-international/new-adl-poll-anti-semitic-attitudes-19-countries.html#.Vha6EG7aWBo

  12. ews—breaking news — breaking news — breaking news—-breaking news — breaking news — breaking news-……..breaking news — bre
    —————————————————————————————————
    A number of cruise missiles launched from a Russian ship and aimed at targets in Syria have crashed in Iran, two U.S. officials told CNN Thursday.

    Monitoring by U.S. military and intelligence assets has concluded that at least four missiles crashed as they flew over Iran. One official said there may be casualties, but another official said this is not yet known.

    It’s unclear where in Iran the missiles landed. The Russian ships have been positioned in the south Caspian Sea, meaning the likely flight path for missiles into Syria would cross over both Iran and Iraq.

    The Russians have been firing a relatively new cruise missile called “Kaliber,” using it for the first time in combat.”
    THANK GOD ALLMIGHTY THANK GOD!!!!
    ALLAH U AKBAR!!

    1. Ingrid [ really Madjewess-Shelly Rubin] loves ragheads so much, that’s why the jew supremacist “Ingrid” NEVER has a word of complaint about JEWS in JEW Israel nursing wounded ISIS jihadist ragheads from Syria back to health in JEW hospitals in JEW Israel. Yes, ISIS jihadists who are wounded in Syria are taken to JEW Israel in JEW owned ambulances and are nursed back to health by JEW doctors and JEW nurses in JEW hospitals in JEW Israel and then sent back into Syria to carry on the ISIS Jihad against Syrian Christians and Syrian Muslims opposed to Jihad. “Ingrid” never has a word of complaint about JEWS in JEW Israel nursing wounded ISIS jihadists back to health. That’s how much jew supremacist “Ingrid” loves Islamic Jihad. Especially as ISIS Is JEW-owned-and-controlled. No wonder “Shelly Rubin-Madjewess-Ingrid” loves ragheads so much. She even said her best dining companions are takfiri Muslims, the exact kind of “Muslims” who are ISIS jihadists. She even said these type of “Muslims”, “takfiri” Muslims, make the best kind of American citizens. Truly, a dirty filthy rodent diseased jew cunt in every one of her jew cunt DNA stands. Truly detestable jew rodentess cunt is your Darkmoon “Ingrid”. Of course, Lasha and Monte and lobro and Kaminski and the other DM actors don’t know “Ingrid” is really the jew supremacist blood thirsty warmonger “MadJewess-Shelly Rubin”. “takfiri” Muslims means jews pretending to be “Muslims” and committing terrorist acts under the guise of being “Muslims” : To Darkmoon, this is the best kind of American citizens. May all of you at Darkmooners burn in Hell you filthy detestable deeply diseased in your DNA, in your minds, your spirit, reprehensible nauseating feral rodents from some sewer. May you all return to your diseased sewer in Hell when you all drop dead. Go burn in Hell, you detestable kikes and “takfiri” “Muslims” and all of the other DM characters in your DM stage production.

      Search Term :

      “Israelis Take Care Of Wounded ISIS”

      Yes, your DM “Ingrid” truly does love ragheads. So does your lobro. His best friends are also “takfiri” “muslims”. Just like your “Madjewess-Ingrid-Shelly Rubin”, lobro’s and “Ingrid’s” best friends are jews pretending to be “Muslims” and committing never-ending acts of violence against Christians and against Muslims opposed to jew-owned ISIS — but I’m expected to believe your DM is really opposed to the jews and the jew agenda of fomenting unending war. Go fuck yourselves, you filthy snakes in your snake pit in Hell.

    2. A senior Russian military official has vehemently rejected US allegations that Russian cruise missiles launched from the Caspian Sea and aimed at Daesh positions in Syria have crashed in Iran.

      “Any professional knows that during these operations we always fix the target before and after impact. All our cruise missiles hit their target,” Russia’s Defense Ministry spokesman, Major General Igor Konashenkov, said in a statement on Thursday.

      “Unlike CNN, we don’t report quoting anonymous sources, but we show launches of our missiles and the targets they hit in real-time mode,” Konashenkov said.

      1. All should go well there for Putin with US help with planes and engines from GE.

        GE-Russia has already – in the past – made many engines for Putin’s planes.

        From GE Russia’s website:

        http://www.ge.com/ru/b2b/o-ge-aviation

        О GE Aviation

        GE Aviation, профильное подразделение GE – ведущий поставщик реактивных и турбовинтовых двигателей, компонентов и интегрированных систем для бизнес-авиации, военной авиации и авиации общего назначения. Подразделение располагает глобальной сервисной сетью для технического обслуживания своей продукции.
        GE Aviation ежегодно инвестирует более 1 млрд долл. США на научно-исследовательские и опытно-конструкторские разработки в авиационном двигателестроении. Такой подход доказывает приверженность компании развитию новейших технологий, максимальному удовлетворению потребностей клиентов по всему миру, а также подтверждает тот факт, что компания является одним из первых создателей реактивных двигателей.
        С 1992 года двигатели GE успешно эксплуатируются на самолетах российских компаний “Аэрофлот”, “Трансаэро”, “Сибирь”, “Волга-Днепр” и других авиалиний. Подразделение GE Aviation сотрудничает в области инженерно-конструкторских разработок c российскими предприятиями и научными институтами, в их числе – ЦИАМ, ВСМПО и НПО Сатурн.

        ENGLISH:

        About GE Aviation

        GE Aviation, operating unit GE – a leading provider of jet and turboprop engines, components and integrated systems for business aircraft, military aircraft and general aviation. The division has a global service network to the maintenance of its products.

        GE Aviation annually invests more than $ 1 billion. US research and development activities in the aircraft engine. That approach proves the company’s commitment to the development of the latest technologies, meeting the needs of customers around the world, and also confirms the fact that the company is one of the first makers of jet engines.

        Since 1992 GE engines have been successfully operated on the aircraft of Russian companies “Aeroflot”, “Transaero”, “Siberia”, “Volga-Dnepr” and other airlines. GE Aviation Division is working in the field of engineering and design development c Russian enterprises and research institutes, among them – CIAM, VSMPO and NPO Saturn.

        Основные двигатели, находящиеся на стадии выпуска или разработки
        С 2007 года GE Aviation непрерывно наращивает производство коммерческих двигателей по ранее поданным заявкам. В 2011-м GE Aviation выпустила около 3000 коммерческих и военных двигателей. В 2012 году эта цифра достигла 3552 двигателей, а в 2013-м – примерно 4000. Основная часть этого количества – заказы на крупные двигатели, GEnx и GE90, а также на самые продаваемые двигатели компании CFM International, CFM56.

        English:

        Main engines are at the stage of manufacture or development

        Since 2007, GE Aviation is continuously increasing its production of commercial engines of the previously filed application. In 2011, GE Aviation has released about 3,000 commercial and military engines. In 2012, this figure reached 3552 engines, and in 2013 – about 4000. The bulk of this amount – orders for large engines, GEnx and GE90, as well as best-selling engines of CFM International, CFM56.

        ……

        The CFM International CFM56 (U.S. military designation F108) series is a family of high-bypass turbofan aircraft engines made by CFM International (CFMI), with a thrust range of 18,000 to 34,000 pounds-force (80 to 150 kilonewtons). CFMI is a 50–50 joint-owned company of SNECMA, France and GE Aviation (GE), United States. Both companies are responsible for producing components and each has its own final assembly line. GE produces the high-pressure compressor, combustor, and high-pressure turbine, and SNECMA manufactures the fan, gearbox, exhaust and the low-pressure turbine, and some components are made by Avio of Italy. The engines are assembled by GE in Evendale, Ohio, and by SNECMA in Villaroche in France. The completed engines are marketed by CFMI.

  13. @the avatar “The Independent cites two anonymous US officials as a basis for this claim, who in turn are quoting unspecified, uncorroborated, and unverified ‘military and intelligence information,’” Dankof said.

    1. Sure, and somebody tell me that either,

      it has nothing to do with Vlad pulling the trigger in Mother Russia, and/or,

      Jew-entity has no problem with Obama pulling the plug on ISroel.

      I say that Rothschilds haven’t seen a defeat like this since the Czar shot the NWO idea down at the Congress of Vienna.

      Can fallen dominoes get back up? Worth hanging around to find out.

      1. the cia rabbi and the queers at mi6 are not finished yet.

        remember frank kitson and david sterling wrote the rule books on these bestial demonic operations.
        zion will not stop

        Qasem Soleimani’s right hand man taken out hit and rabbi run

        Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani has offered his condolences on the killing of Brigadier General Hossein Hamedani, a senior commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC), by terrorist groups in Syria.

        http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/10/09/432643/Iranian-commander-Syria-Major-General-Hossein-Hamedani

      2. If there is one condolence there for the rest of us, it is that Iranians don’t lie, they speak the plain truth, wherever it hits.

  14. Let’s not forget the imminent release of the “findings” of who shot down M 017 over Ukraine.
    The timing of this report and the events in Syria, IMO s not a co-incidence. The US/Israel/Great Britain/Russia & others must know from satellite technology who was responsible. What’s the secret?

  15. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKb96xhcM7c
    I presume Scott Roberts knocks it out of the part with this one. He addresses the Putin As Savior crowd in what must be his best, most focused effort to date.

    He says the puppet masters create a build up nurturing a special narrative for what they want to carry out.

    Consider getting people to fluoridate themselves. If you go to fluoride-history.de you can see that they thought to link fluoride poisoning with tooth benefits and therefore got people to want to brush twice daily with fluoride and to want fluoride added to their water supplies. A poison became a coveted mineral. Likewise with vaccines: you don’t want to get X so they hype it up and you get your prophylactic vaccine, which gives them needle access to your body to administer what they please.

    1. TPTB cannot stand people like Scott Roberts….

      Now…. they would hide valid testimonies… outlined in TPP.

      …..

      Intellectual property rights chapter appears to give Trans-Pacific Partnership countries’ countries greater power to stop information from going public.

      One chapter appears to give the signatory countries (referred to as “parties”) greater power to stop embarrassing information going public.

      The treaty would give signatories the ability to curtail legal proceedings if the theft of information is “detrimental to a party’s economic interests, international relations, or national defense or national security” – in other words, presumably, if a trial would cause the information to spread.

      http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/oct/09/wikileaks-releases-tpp-intellectual-property-rights-chapter

  16. “the saker” is a false controlled opposition in the so-called “alternative media” like rense.com, zerohedge.com, infowars.com, etc. They all hide behind the kosher terminology allowed by Jews to call them “Zionists” and not “Jews.”

    He has invented a new term for the Yankee Shabbat Goyim that he calls “AngloZionists”! Most thinking people would associate the word “Anglo” with the British, but “the saker” is trying his darnest to convince (or is it to obfuscate) his readers into believing that Yankee neocons and the Pat Robertsons of that “great land of GMO milk and fake honey” who just love Israel and Jews are “AngloZionists”!

    He dismissed my latest article in its entirety (that was featured on Darkmoon.me on July 23, 2015) by trying to corner me on the single issue of whether Jews are a race or not, which I would not allow him to do. Here was his email to me dated August 7, 2015 when I gave up and told him “you win!”:

    ///I know. I told you that very clearly from the first email. I do not want to challenge your arguments because I chose to challenge your assumptions. If your premises are wrong, then your entire argument is wrong. To go after the premises of an argument is a totally honest and logical way to challenge a thesis. This is absolutely not tossing the baby out with the bathwater. In fact, when tossing the baby out with the bathwater the person acting is assuming that the two cannot be separated. Thus in order NOT to toss out the baby with the bathwater you have to challenge this mistaken assumption.

    I am surprised at the vehemence and hostility I sense from you. Why are you angry with me? All I did is something basic: I look at a key assumption of your argument. I even allowed you to chose (for your argument) whether Jews are a race or not and then. You then chose to act EXACTLY like they do by refusing to make that choice. Instead, you said that I did not understand Satanism (you did fail to substantiate that claim, by the way).

    Dear David, in this discussion it is crucial to have logic and truth on your side. And you cannot win by using the exact same obfuscations as your opponent does. You criticize Jews by using typically Jewish pseudo-logic and that is something I refuse to do. Jew say “we are different and better” and you say “Jews are different and worse”. To both sides I say “define ‘Jew'”.

    My thesis, and Gilad Atzmon’s, is that Jews are a tribe. Shlomo Sand proved beyond doubt that there is no such thing as a Jewish race or ethnicity (if only because Ashkenazim are mostly Khazars!). As Gilad correctly says “Jews are not a race, but they are racist”.

    You also fail to realize that your position gives no choice and no hope to any Jew who would want to reject the Jewish tribal ideology. Since you consider him/her as the enemy by birth, by genetic makeup, you will never accept him as your brother so your position forces him to fight. That is a very bad tactic.

    I have known enough “Jews” in my life (here I mean “Jews born into “Jewish” families) to know that they are not in any way more prone to evil than Gentiles and that given the choice they chose good over evil in the same ratio as Gentiles. This is why Saint Paul wrote “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms”.

    So your stance is as morally wrong as it is logically flawed. If my words offend you and you cannot cope with my criticism, then don’t send me your articles. If you do, then expect me to fully use my moral right to challenge their contents.

    Kind regards,

    The Saker///

    He concluded our email exchanges with the following:

    ///I suggest you calm down and think about it in a logical way. I don’t disagree with you that there is a “Jewish question” (even Sartre wrote about it!) and I consider Zionism one of the three most evil ideologies out there (along Wahabism and National-Socialism). So we agree that there is a problem. Where we disagree is on it’s nature and, therefore, on the correct way to deal with it. But can’t we disagree and continue to seek the truth without getting upset about it? What would you prefer – that everybody simply give you a standing ovation or that we have a friendly but honest discussion about these issues?///

    1. “the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms”.
      That’s not something one sees or hears very often, or ever.

      Struggles and battles with the demons in the heavenly realms.
      Why would anyone expect or believe in peace on earth, if even in heaven demons make trouble? The Vedas say the King of Heaven, Indra, spends many sleepless nights tossing and turning in fear of the demons.

      Peace on earth? A rumor, a myth, a Utopian pipe dream.
      Individual peace, however, is obtainable whether in heaven or on earth.

      1. HP –

        Lucifer was in heaven..

        Is 14:12
        “How art thou fallen from HEAVEN, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!”

        There were always fight there… wherever ‘heaven’ was… good v evil. Archangels v demons.

  17. Unless the Saker give us his identity so that we can check his background, see that he is not trying to deceive us all – unless we can see that he is not jewish, pretending to be an orthodox christian, so as to fool us into his Anglo-Zionist nonsene, then I for one, will have to assume that it is very probably that The Saker is in fact jewish, posing as an orthodox christian (seeing the impact of Brother Nathanael for instance) to charm and fool you all.

  18. To give some further insight into one key aspect of the background of “the saker” (which is also the singular common denominator among 99.9% of all the so-called “alternative media”), I offer the following information that was my brief involvement with “the saker” blog.

    I became one of his blog moderators just after the fallout of his article “I am not Charlie!” which came out in early January 2015.

    During this time period, his blog was in the midst of a delicate transition from vineyardsaker.blogspot.com to its current and more slicker format at thesaker.is .

    When his Charlie article came out, it was widely distributed and read. It went viral. So much so that the backlash was tremendous. Then shit hit the fan. Some of his close supporters left him including key financial support and, more importantly, some key individuals took the domain names of other “saker community” websites with them and removed those blogs from the Internet. In short, “the saker” was “up the creek without a paddle” and his new website (the current one) was on the verge of collapsing.

    It was at this time he desperately appealed publicly for any and all help forthcoming, i.e., financial, technical, moderating, etc. I emailed him on January 10, 2015 and offered to be a moderator for his blog which he accepted. [BTW, he never even had the courtesy to thank me for being one of his blog moderators from mid January 2015 through the end of April 2015. Because I had to move and since early May 2015, I don’t have internet at home. . . thanks to the local Jews of my area declaring WW3 against me, but that’s another story which you already know or can find out. . . .]

    From this dire experience when they almost destroyed his beloved blog and henceforth, let’s just say that “the saker” got the message loud and clear: he understands implicitly how he needs “to play along to get along” for the survival and popularity of his blog, if he already didn’t understand that before.

    The issue is “Jews” and what he conveniently invents from the thin air and calls “AngloZionists.”

    Just like 99% of the so-called “alternative media” like rense.com, zerohedge.com, infowars.com, realzionistnews.com, etc., they ALL play along WITHIN the Jewish-sanctioned playpen (or Jewish “free speech zone”) of “Zionism” or “Zionists” or “Zionist Jews” and they will never ever venture out of that “playpen” and call out Jews as “JEWS” because that would be “racist” or “anti-Semitic”! Or some such lame excuse or bullshit.

    What they are ALL worry to death about is the drying up of their sources of income, i.e., MONEY, via the disruption or banning or outright elimination of their websites. Such are the implicit and explicit means by which Jews control the “alternative media.” Just as they control the lamestream media.

    Jews control the ENTIRE spectrum of the media with their tacit “mark” of approval.

    Isn’t all this prophesied in Revelation 13:16~13:18 of the Holy Bible?

    And he [the second beast coming out of the earth that “had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon”] causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man [I wonder who this man could have been?!?]; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

    We are living in “interesting times” as the Chinese would say!

    Mayer Amschel Rothschild an “AngloZionist”?!?

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