Holocaust Revisionist Scholar Germar Rudolf Interviewed

We intend to publish a 30-minute interview within the next few days, featuring three famous Holocaust revisionists. One of these is Germar Rudolf. As an introduction to this subject, please read this short interview with Germar Rudolf by the extraordinarily gifted  Jonas Alexis. (LD)

By Jonas Alexis


Germar Rudolf is a German chemist and a prolific writer. He studied chemistry at Bonn University and the Max Planck Institute for Solid State Research. Part of his academic journey is provided in this article.

JONAS ALEXIS :  The Holocaust establishment seems to put a bounty on your head by attacking virtually everything you have done or written,[1] and you have certainly been misunderstood (sometimes deliberately). David Patterson of the University of Memphis has postulated that people like you have contributed to anti-Semitism across Europe.[2] Clear that issue for us right at the outset. Are you an anti-Semite?

2ssGERMAR RUDOLF :  Whoa! That’s a loaded question. It’s like asking me whether I have stopped raping my wife yet. The answer depends on how you define an anti-Semite. And that’s more than a rhetorical question, because there are many ways of defining it. But let’s not waste time with this.

Let’s say that an anti-Semite is someone who hates people because they are Jews. I’m sure that people who know me understand that this is not the way I operate. I don’t judge people by their ethnic or religious background. I judge them by their behavior, their manners and attitudes. As a matter of fact, I hardly ever ask people I interact with whether they are Jewish or not, or whether they belong to any other group of people, for that matter. It doesn’t matter to me.

So, no, I don’t hate people because they belong to a particular ethnic group. Hate is too strong a word anyway. It shouldn’t be used when dealing with any person. I dislike or disdain certain aspects of quite a number of political or religious ideologies, yes.

Having said that, let me also say that it is typical for people who have run out of arguments, or who are too lazy to muster convincing arguments, to resort to ad hominem attacks. The accusation of being an anti-Semite is the ultimate attack on a person, the ultimate attempt to destroy his reputation, because in today’s Western society, there is little more vitriolic than the accusation of being anti-Semitic.

The sources you’ve quoted are an example for it. These authors aren’t really interested in factual questions raised about history. They are only interested in proving that someone whose views they detest is an anti-Semite. Once they have “demonstrated” that, they are done. Since they won’t debate anti-Semites, the actual facts no longer matter. In their view, an anti-Semite is always wrong.

But that’s simply not true. Even if I were an anti-Semite, that wouldn’t invalidate any of my scientific or historical arguments. Hence, at the bottom of it, it doesn’t matter what my attitude toward Jews is, or what people think my attitude is. The whole anti-Semitism debate, whenever it is brought up, is a mere smokescreen to distract from the facts.

Accusations of anti-Semitism are also a frontal attack on science and scholarship, because such ad hominem attacks are not only impermissible in a scholarly debate; they are poisonous and destructive to any debate; they are the root of a lot of evil, because they are hateful. Only factual, logical, verifiable arguments count, not emotional ones.

So, no, I don’t hate Jews. But I’m sure that I am the target of a lot of hatred emanating from some Jews—and non-Jews alike. I can even understand that to some degree, because these people have been taught all of their lives to hate people who disagree with them on certain aspects of history or ideology. They are prisoners of that narrow mindset, and that is very deplorable.

Still, as you indicated, even if I am not an anti-Semite, my works are still said to somehow contribute to anti-Semitism across Europe and beyond. I consider that a real possibility. But that is not because of what I say in my works. My works are not about Jews; they are about science and history. Jews are merely mentioned as a side note, as objects of history, if you wish. In fact, in some of my works I try to counteract any potential negative feelings people might develop against Jews. But that won’t stop some people from doing it anyway. So what?

Well, we always have to apply a rule in general to see whether it is legitimate. So, if the rule is that it is inacceptable to say something that might cause ill feelings toward Jews, that rule must be applied to everyone else, too. Let me put that shoe on the other foot to make you realize what that means.

Just think about the millions of mainstream stories spread about National Socialist Germany for the past 70 plus years. They have inevitably spread hatred against Germans and Germany. In fact, the tsunami of ethnic cleansing sweeping through Europe after World War II was nothing else but the manifestation of that hatred, nurtured by stories spread about Germans and Germany before, during and after that war.[3]

Now, should we suppress the bad news of the orthodox Holocaust narrative and other claimed Nazi crimes because it could spread hatred against Germans among some folks? No, that shouldn’t be the motivation. If the mainstream narrative is correct, let it be spread; if it’s flawed, however, then a corrected version needs to be spread.

If we generalize the rule that we spread no news which could cause anti-Semitism, this would mean that we should not talk about anything bad anyone ever did, because that could spread hatred.

But that’s not all. In fact, then we shouldn’t even talk about anything good anyone ever did or encountered either, because that could spread envy, and thus hatred. So, if we want to stop spreading bad feelings with what we say, we ought to stop talking altogether, because there’s always someone who could feel bad about something someone else says.

It’s either the same rule for everyone, or no rule at all. If we are not allowed to dig up facts that may shed a bad light on some aspect of Jewish history or Jewish personalities, then the same must apply for all other identifiable groups. Then we have to end communicating altogether. Or else we have special rules for Jews, but then these rules are the primary suspects for people developing bad feelings.

At the end of it, it depends on how we present the news. If we remain factual and unemotional, then there is no objective reason to suppress such news. In fact, it would be immoral to suppress such news, in particular if it contains facts important for people’s decision-making processes. And I consider this to be the case here.

If the Holocaust were unimportant, we wouldn’t have around 20 countries on this planet outlawing its critical investigation. In fact, this is the only historical topic that is regulated by penal law. This is proof for the fact that the powers that be consider this topic to be the most important issue to keep under their strict control. Those censoring, suppressing powers are the real criminals—not the historical dissidents they send to prison.

JONAS ALEXIS :   People of reason will have to examine some of the things you have provided here because they are right in line with rational thought. I appreciate people who build their weltanschauung on logic and reason, and you are certainly one of them. Let’s explore more.

Michael Shermer and Alex Grobman cite you in their fraudulent book Denying History saying, “The mass gassing procedures [at Auschwitz], as reported by witnesses interrogated by the courts, as established in the quoted judgments, and as described in scientific and literary publications, in whatever building one picks at Auschwitz at all, are irreconcilable with the laws of physical science.”[4] Shermer never examined this assertion in his book.

First, tell us your story, and how you came to be involved in evidence for or against the so-called gassings at Auschwitz.

GERMAR RUDOLF :  Shermer’s quote is from my expert report on Auschwitz, the current English edition of which can be accessed online at http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=2. Actually, the wording is a little different. If I may quote the last sentence of my expert report, on p. 278 of the 2010 edition:

“The procedures of mass-gassing as attested to by witnesses during their interrogation before various courts of law, as cited in judicial rulings, and as described in scientific and literary publications, in any building of Auschwitz whatsoever, are inconsistent with documentary evidence, technical necessities, and natural scientific law.”

As to how I ended up writing an expert report on Auschwitz, let me very briefly summarize the events leading to it. Readers interested in more details can visit the biographical section of my website.

I grew up in West Germany, where I studied chemistry, graduating in 1989 from Bonn University. In the summer of 1989, I learned about the so-called “Leuchter Report,” which is a study on the claimed homicidal gas chambers at the Auschwitz and Majdanek camps, written by an American expert for execution technologies. I won’t go into details here.

Fact is that I obtained a copy of this study, and after reading it, I found it highly interesting, for one thing because it contained chemical arguments which I could easily related to. But I also found a number of flaws in it, which made me skeptical as to the reliability of Leuchter’s study. But I didn’t get involved in anything yet back then, primarily because right after graduating, I was drafted into the German Army and had to do my one year of compulsory military service.

After that was over in late 1990, I started my post-graduate studies at the Max Planck Institute for Solid State Research in Stuttgart, with the aim of receiving a Ph.D. degree. That’s when I started thinking about this issue again, because the many resources which the Max Planck Institute allowed me to use could also be used to do research on some of the issues raised by Leuchter.

Around that time, I wrote a letter to the editor of a small periodical summarizing what I considered to be the deficiencies of the Leuchter Report. That was read by a number of people interested in the topic, and not even half a year later, the lawyer of a German defendant accused of “Holocaust denial” contacted me, asking me whether I could prepare an expert report for the upcoming court proceedings against his client. He basically wanted to present to the court a study which eradicated the flaws of the Leuchter Report.

I was very eager to do this, as I found such a task both exciting and challenging. So I contracted with this defense team, agreeing to writing and eventually publishing the report, while they in return would pay all the expenses.

I finished writing this expert report in late 1991/early 1992. It was subsequently presented numerous times in German court proceedings by various defense counsels, but not a single one of these courts ever accepted it as evidence. Quite to the contrary, some of the judges dealing with these cases openly threatened me with prosecution, should I testify along the line indicated in the defense counsel’s motion to introduce me as an expert witness.

Eventually, my expert report got published by the defense team I had contracted with, but not exactly the way I had wanted it: They added a rhetorical foreword and epilogue to it. Eventually, I got prosecuted for that edition, and the court denied that my expert report was scientific, because it included a rhetorical foreword and epilogue. They sentenced me to 14 months in prison.

In the meantime, I had gotten involved in a number of other historical research and publication activities in the same vein, which resulted in numerous other criminal prosecutions. Again, I won’t go into any details here. My website has a detailed section on my persecution for those who want to know details. Fact is that I had to endure a broad range of “persecutorial” measures in subsequent years.

In 1996, I finally had enough of it and decided to leave Germany and settle in England. There, I started a small publishing outlet focusing initially only on German revisionist material. When Germany asked Britain to extradite me in 1999, I fled to the U.S., where I applied for political asylum, expanded my publishing activities to include English language material, and in 2004 married a U.S. citizen.

In late 2005, the U.S. authorities recognized my marriage as valid, but instead of allowing me to now apply for a “green card” based on that marriage, they arrested me and subsequently deported me back to Germany, thus effectively and prematurely aborting my pending asylum case in violation of the 5th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, and violating a 1960 U.S. law that expressly allows married foreigners to apply for permanent legal residence – the so-called “green card.”

Back in Germany, I was put on trial for scholarly works I had published while in the U.S., where those works are completely legal: My magnum opus Lectures on the Holocaust, and a FAQ brochure. Those works were banned, and I was sentenced to 30 more months in prison. Since those “offenses” are not a crime under U.S. law, I managed to immigrate permanently to the U.S. in 2011, where I rejoined my U.S. citizen wife and daughter.

JONAS ALEXIS  (concluding the interview) : Again, I cannot detect any irrational idea here at all. We will let people of reason judge with knowledge and wisdom, not with emotion or ad hominem attack or straw man or even red herring. We need to flesh out some of those ideas further because the Holocaust establishment will not do that for us. They want us to remain prisoners in their own ideological matrix. It is high time that people of reason shout from the rooftop: let reason roll like a river, logic like a never-ending stream! Only then will people be free indeed. As the old saying goes, “And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”



[1] See for example Sarah Rembiszewski, The final Lie: Holocaust Denial in Germany (Tel Aviv: Tel Aviv University Press, 1996), 34, 87-89; Deborah E. Lipstadt, History on Trial: My Day in Court with a Holocaust Denier (New York: Harper Perennial, 2005), 292, 294-295.

[2] David Patterson, Anti-Semitism and Its Metaphysical Origins (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2015), 173-180.

[3] For historical studies on some of these issues, see for example R. M. Douglas, Orderly and Humane: The Expulsion of the Germans after the Second World War (New Haven: Yale University Press, 2012); Alfred-Maurice de Zayas, A Terrible Revenge: The Ethnic Cleansing of the East European Germans (New York: St. Martin’s Press, 2006); Giles MacDonogh,After the Reich: The Brutal History of the Allied Occupation (New York: Basic Books, 2007); James Bacque, Crimes and Mercies: The Fate of German Civilians Under Allied Occupation, 1944–1950 (Vancouver: TalonBooks, 2007); Thomas Goodrich, Hellstorm: The Death of Nazi Germany, 1944-1947 (Sheridan, CO: Aberdeen Books, 2010); John Sacks, An Eye for an Eye: The Untold Story of Jewish Revenge Against Germans in 1945 (New York: Basic Books, 1993).

[4] Michael Shermer and Alex Grobman, Denying History: Who Says the Holocaust Never Happened and Why Do They Say It? (Berkeley: University of California Press, 2000 and 2002), 129.

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132 thoughts on “Holocaust Revisionist Scholar Germar Rudolf Interviewed

  1. Let’s say that an anti-Semite is someone who hates people because they are Jews.

    Then I guess I am not an anti-semite by this definition.
    I hate Jews because they are not people.
    And i found the right term just the other day, an anti-judaist.

    Downloaded the kindle version, will paypal some bucks to Dr Rudolf.

    1. They are an anti-Christian, global supremacist cult of Asian and East European ancestry. The true genetic ancestors of the ancient Judeans (or Israelites) are currently being massacred by the so-called Jews.

      PS I just wanted to add that Jonas (with an E) Alexis is a fantastic writer and thinker on these topics. A true philosopher. Just sayin’ 😛

      1. Adam,

        I’m not so sure about this video. It doesn’t do Holocaust Revisionism any favors. I wouldn’t be surprised if the (((Usual Suspects))) were behind it.

        I have to confess I didn’t find it very funny or get any laughs out of it. 🙂

      2. Toby,

        Not everyone cup of tea, I guess. It is a joke, though the joke might be on us. Either way, such a video would anger them just like Dieudonne sketches.

        There are lots of great videos, articles and books on the Holohoax. More than enough to see the truth, it just people would rather stay asleep.

    2. Removing all Jews from a country, nation, or community is NOT anti-Semitism; it is survival and the removal of a pathogen and parasite.

    3. the copper wire was discovered accidentally when two Jews were fighting over a penny .And it should be noted that the Israelites were not lost in the Sinai desert for 40 years , they were just looking for a dime . At that time , If you happened to listen to 2 Jews conversing , you would have heard 3 opinions , and hence the third gender idea was born . The Jews produced the first suicide bomber ever, it was Sampson destroying the temple over every body starting with himself . The Jews were the first ever to be involved in currency manipulation in front of the synagogue of Satan at the time of Jesus . They never looked back since then .They know what they want and they go after it with concentration and clarity .However, if you want to confuse one of them just offer him a free ham . Because of the Jew , Satan has been on vacation for a very long time but because of the Jews rigging the stock market , his 401 k is now 201 k which forced him to move to Mexico .

      1. “And it should be noted that the Israelites were not lost in the Sinai desert for 40 years.”

        Like this?

        Josephus Flavius quoting passages concerning the Hyksos from Manetho’s Aegyptiaca

        From Book 1, section 73

        “Under a king of ours named Timaus (Tutimaeus) God became angry with us, I know not how, and there came, after a surprising manner, men of obscure birth from the east, and had the temerity to invade our country, and easily conquered it by force, as we did not do battle against them. After they had subdued our rulers, they burnt down our cities, and destroyed the temples of the gods, and treated the inhabitants most cruelly; killing some and enslaving their wives and their children.

        “Then they made one of their own king. His name was Salatis; he lived at Memphis, and both the upper and lower regions had to pay tribute to him. He installed garrisons in places that were the most suited for them. His main aim was to make the eastern parts safe, expecting the Assyrians, at the height of their power, to covet his kingdom, and invade it. In the Saite Nome there was a city very proper for this purpose, by the Bubastic arm of the Nile. With regard to a certain theological notion it was called Avaris. He rebuilt and strengthened this city by surrounding it with walls and by stationing a large garrison of two hundred and forty thousand armed men there. Salitis came there in the summer, to gather corn in order to pay his soldiers, and to exercise his men, and thus to terrify foreigners.

        “After a reign of thirteen years, he was followed by one whose name was Beon, who ruled for forty-four years. After him reigned Apachnas for thirty-six years and seven months. After him Apophis was king for sixty-one years, followed by Janins for fifty years and one month. After all these, Assis reigned during forty-nine years and two months. These six were their first kings. They all along waged war against the Egyptians, and wanted to destroy them to the very roots.”

        This would be called “genocide” today, sound familiar yet?

        “These people, whom we have called kings before, and shepherds too, and their descendants,” as he says, “held Egypt for five hundred and eleven years. Then,” he says, “the kings of Thebes and the other parts of Egypt rose against the shepherds, and a long and terrible war was fought between them.” He says further, “By a king, named Alisphragmuthosis, the shepherds were subdued, and were driven out of the most parts of Egypt and shut up in a place named Avaris, measuring ten thousand acres.” Manetho says, “The shepherds had built a wall surrounding this city, which was large and strong, in order to keep all their possessions and plunder in a place of strength.

        Tethmosis, son of Alisphragmuthosis, attempted to take the city by force and by siege with four hundred and eighty thousand men surrounding it. But he despaired of taking the place by siege, and concluded a treaty with them, that they should leave Egypt, and go, without any harm coming to them, wherever they wished. After the conclusion of the treaty they left with their families and chattels, not fewer than two hundred and forty thousand people, and crossed the desert into Syria. Fearing the Assyrians, who dominated over Asia at that time, they built a city in the country which we now call Judea. It was large enough to contain this great number of men and was called Jerusalem.

        ~ § ~

        This brings us to the rather interesting translation of the Tempest Stele, which accords so well with the biblical account, indeed it appears to be a direct quotation from the Bible. There are a number of biblical quotations and similarities inscribed on the Tempest Stele and one of them reads as follows:

        “Then his Majesty began … to provide them with silver, with gold, with copper, with oil, and of every bolt [of cloth] that could be desired. Then his majesty made himself comfortable inside the palace.”

        In the Bible, an exact equivalent of the description above is to be found. During the Exodus the Bible says:

        “This is the offering which ye shall take of them; gold, silver, and brass [copper]. And cloth of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine linen … oil for the light, spices for anointing oil and for sweet incense … and let them make a [palace] sanctuary that I may dwell among them.”

        Clearly there was an ancient tradition that indicated that the Hyksos were bought off by the Theban Egyptians with a large tribute of precious metals and materials just before their exodus from Egypt. But what of the Israelite traditions? If the Israelites were the Hyksos peoples, as the historian Josephus says, then surely their traditions should say something similar? This is not only sound reasoning, but it also seems to be remarkably correct. The biblical texts say of this same event:

        “Speak now in the ears of the [Israelites], and let every man borrow of his neighbour [the Egyptians] … jewels of silver and jewels of gold. And the Lord gave the [Israelites] favour in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they lent them such things as they required. And they spoiled the Egyptians.”

        ~ § ~

        The Jews “borrowed” the Egyptians’ gold, but then this is from their Tanakh. This is so different from reality because historically Jews steal gold as they did when they began shaving coins. Ever wonder why there all those little ridges called “reed” around the edges of coins? Jews, that’s why. Of course that was when coins actually had value as opposed to the worthless pot metal that comprises modern Jewish temple coinage illegally minted by the Federal Reserve.

        ~ § ~

        They [the Egyptians] also honoured the Hebrews with gifts; some in order to get them to depart quickly, and others on account of their neighbourhood and the friendship they had with them.

        The Israelites, like their alter-egos the Hyksos, were apparently given a financial inducement to leave Egypt; and like the Hyksos, the Israelites also set off on a great exodus across hostile territory towards the city of Jerusalem. How many coincidences do we need before it is recognised that the Hyksos were the Israelites?

        If the tributes mentioned in the Bible were really those that were mentioned on the Tempest Stele, then the reparations also seem to have included the expensive materials that were specifically required for the construction of the mobile Egyptian temple, known to Israelite history as the Tabernacle, and also for the construction of the Ark of the Covenant. It seems highly likely, therefore, that the gold, silver, oil and cloth mentioned on the Tempest Stele, was being donated to the Hyksos/Israelites by Ahmose I as an inducement for them to leave the country. Any nation as deeply religious and greedy as the Hyksos/Israelites would have needed a mobile temple with a strong box to hold their booty before even contemplating their long journey across the Sinai.

        So can we guess what the Ark of the Covenant actually held. Let’s hit it with occam’s sharpened stick. From the Book of Exodus, how the Ark is constructed. “It is to be 2½ cubits in length, 1½ in breadth, and 1½ in height (approximately 131×79×79 cm or 52×31×31 in). Then it is to be gilded entirely with gold, and a crown or molding of gold is to be put around it. Four rings of gold are to be attached to its four corners, two on each side—and through these rings staves of shittim-wood overlaid with gold for carrying the Ark are to be inserted; and these are not to be removed. A golden lid, the kapporet which is covered with two golden cherubim, is to be placed above the Ark.”

        So in this description we find the Ark is constructed with some sort of shitty wood covered with gold.Jews claim the ark held their stone tablets upon which their law was written along with perhaps some other worthless oddments. The biblical account further states that the Ark was carried by the Israelites during their 40 years of wandering in the desert. More likely however it made the trip during their beeline journey to Jerusalem. Furthermore legend has it that the Army that carried the Ark was guaranteed victory. Doesn’t matter what army, as long as they carry the ark they would be victorious. So what is it that every army in history has required to be victorious?

        Here’s a clue. Before the battle of Waterloo, Wellington’s army had become demoralized due to their lack of provisions and pay. For this reason, Wellington was expected to lose the battle. Nathan Rothschild had his gold moved through Napoleon’s battle lines to supply Wellington with the gold necessary to provision and pay his troops. So it was gold that led to the British army’s victory.

        Note also, touch the ark and you die! “On the way to Zion, Uzzah, one of the drivers of the cart that the Ark was carried on, put out his hand to steady the Ark, and was struck dead by God for touching it.” Kind of what you would expect if something of great value was being transported by a nation of thieves.

        So by these descriptions which is more likely, the Ark, made of shitty wood covered in gold, held a bunch of worthless stone or the gold the Israelites “borrowed” from the Egyptians? What better cover could be given to a portable strong box holding a fortune in gold than to say it only holds a bunch of worthless stone and oddments?

        ~ § ~

        What we seem to have in the Tempest Stele is an account of the beginning of the Hyksos/Israelite exodus and how it was organised and implemented by the two parties involved in the dispute. Although the biblical and the historical accounts of the Exodus, both hint darkly about a great deal of looting, pillaging and murder of the (Theban) Egyptians by the Israelites/Hyksos, it can now be seen that these apparently independent Israelite and Egyptian records both strongly allude to a diplomatic agreement between the parties involved; with substantial financial reparations being given to the impending Israelites/Hyksos refugees.

        The interlinked triangles, symbolizing two pyramids, that form the Star of David are symbolic of this victory by the Israelites/Hyksos cultural inversion.



      2. @ Arch Stanton

        To add to your good post, the Apostle John in Chapter 1 of his Gospel says that Jesus was here in the beginning and that Jesus is the one who did the work of creation. If John is correct, then Jesus would have certainly been aware of the Arch of the Covenant along with its contents that would have included the missing Second Commandment, “Love thy neighbor as thyself.” Isn’t it interesting that Jesus never used the word “covenant” especially if it had really contained the Laws of God on stone tablets? The only rational conclusion is that the Arch of the Covenant never existed or, if it did, it did not contain the Laws of God.
        Your point that is contained their loot would be the only logical reason for its existence if it existed at all.

  2. What do Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Israel, Italy, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Spain , Switzerland have in common?

    Well, in all of those countries Germar Rudolf would be proscecuted and convicted if he would publish or publicly discussed his work. In fact anyone telling the truth would not be safe.

    1. I thought Russia introduced holocaust denial laws in 2014? Would Rudolf be prosecuted in Russia?

      Sorry, I just noticed your inclusion of Russia in your list. This is why we need to be sceptical…hopeful and sceptical. Difficult balancing act 😛

      1. Flopot,

        Yes, scepticism is entirely justified. I am all for Putin, he has done many excellent things, including the dumping of liberal western economic policies for a NATIONAL one, but I can’t see how promoting lies and oppressing truth could be regarded as anything other than the opposite, no matter from which angle you look at it.

        ADMIN; Sorry for the off-topicness of this but Flopot, since you are Russian, could you tell me what’s the deal with nationalism in Russia? I asked Rousso the same in the previous thread. As an outsider it isn’t hard to find lots of references on internet about Russian nationalists, but I would like to hear it from a Russian. Is it substantial, are there more factions, why were they ( temporarily? ) banned?: That sort of things.

      2. Yep —

        In doing so, Russia JOINED the West when it was not necessary….. Instead of resisting the Pharisee-Jew Banker Zionists…. Putin signed the law. Action v words. Fruits known.

      3. Flopot on August 23, 2016 at 11:26 am wrote:

        I thought Russia introduced holocaust denial laws in 2014? Would Rudolf be prosecuted in Russia?

        I think not. It has been difficult to locate information on exactly what the law states. Nearly all are editorials rather than fact. I finally located an explanation of the law:


        The new law added Article 354.1 to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, making it a criminal offense:

        to deny facts recognized by the international military tribunal that judged and punished the major war criminals of the European Axis countries, to approve of the crimes this tribunal judged, and to spread intentionally false information about the Soviet Union’s activities during World War II.

        The law also made it an aggravating circumstance “to artificially create evidence for the prosecution” (whatever that means) and criminalized:

        the spreading of information on military and memorial commemorative dates related to Russia’s defense that is clearly disrespectful of society, and to publicly desecrate symbols of Russia’s military glory.

        At this point it appears that the law was to protect Russian history from being maliciously misinterpreted. According to the statement, “to artificially create evidence for the prosecution”, I imagine that Rudolf would not be vilified since he is only stating the truth, nor what he stated is disrespectful of Soviet society, nor Russian artifacts of its military.

        This is in contrast to certain individuals, who deface American historical artifacts related to various American wars (WW1, WW2, Korean, Vietnam, etc.), the American Civil War and rewrite history without seeking due process of the American people. This includes politicians who push their agendas to have statues removed rather seeking the overall support of the American people through referendum.

      4. “I am all for Putin, he has done many excellent things, including the dumping of liberal western economic policies for a NATIONAL one…”


        Moscow is one of the most expensive cities in the world. And the most expensive place in Moscow is called “Beverly Hills”. Oops… Excuse me, it is called “Barvikha Hills”. That’s the place the richest people of Russia live. Does it look like these people are up to something national, in particular, economic policies?

        I don’t think so.

    2. The following makes for interesting reading, in tune with the discussion article and the point you bring up, 1138.


      In April 2007 the European Union agreed to set jail sentences up to three years for those who deny or trivialize the Holocaust. [1] More recently, in response to the remarks of Bishop Richard Williamson, the Pope has proclaimed that Holocaust denial is “intolerable and altogether unacceptable.”

      But what does Holocaust denial really mean? Begin with the word Holocaust. The Holocaust [2] (spelled with a capital H) refers to the killing of six million Jews by the Nazis during World War II. It is supposed to be the German’s “Final Solution” to the Jewish problem. Much of the systematic extermination was to have taken place in concentration camps by shooting, gassing, and burning alive innocent Jewish victims of the Third Reich.

      People like Germar Rudolf, Ernst Zundel, and Bishop Williamson who do not believe this account and who dare to say so in public are reviled as bigots, anti-Semites, racists, and worse. Their alternate historical scenarios are not termed simply revisionist, but are demeaned as Holocaust denial. Rudolf and Zundel were shipped to Germany where they were tried, convicted, and sentenced to three and five years, respectively. Williamson may not be far behind.

      The rest of this article makes for interesting reading. Daniel McGowan brings up an interesting perspective.

      The Holocaust narrative of systematic, industrialized extermination was an important neo-conservative tool to drive the United States into Iraq. The same neo-con ideologues, like Norman Podoretz, routinely compare Ahmadinejad to Hitler and Nazism with Islamofascism with the intent of driving us into Iran. The title of the recent Israeli conference at Yad Vashem made this crystal clear: “Holocaust Denial: Paving the Way to Genocide.”

      “Remember the Holocaust” will be the battle cry of the next great clash of good (Judeo/Christian values) and evil (radical Islamic aggression) and those who question it must be demonized if not burned at the stake.

      1. @György

        Thanks for digging out the details on the law…

        “to deny facts recognized by the international military tribunal that judged and punished the major war criminals of the European Axis countries, to approve of the crimes this tribunal judged, and to spread intentionally false information about the Soviet Union’s activities during World War II.”

        In theory, this reads like it could be used to prosecute individuals on holocaust denial, i.e. those “judged” at Nuremberg included individuals found guilty of planning to exterminate the Jews, including the use of gas.

        Currently I’ve found no-one prosecuted of holocaust denial in Russia. On the other-hand, I am not aware of any holocaust denial authors/writers publishing and lecturing in Russia. Is Russia a holocaust denial free zone by default anyway?

      2. Thank you for your highly informative and well-researched comments, GYÖRGY. Your contribution to this site is, in my view, substantial.

  3. @ADMIN

    Why do some posters think I’m Russian? I suppose I’m a philo-Russian because of Russia Today, basically. A cynic would say I was propagandized by Russia 😉

    It was a breath of fresh air after years of Western propaganda. Unfortunately, I am experiencing doubts about Putin ever since the partial stand-down order. I’ll be the first here to apologize for being a doubting-Thomas if/when the Zionists are finally kicked out of Syria.

    I suspect it is like everywhere else — some nationalist groups are actually Zionist controlled opposition; some are genuine. That is why the Zios are so successful — you don’t know who is bought off, planted, compromised, crypto; or who is for real. Crazy world.

    Regarding the Russian denial laws — Lobro’s point about the sheer magnitude of Russian losses means that Putin cannot simply say the whole war was a Zio plan (which it was). So that might explain the psychology of it.

    1. Flopot,

      Oh, sorry, I assumed you were Russian because I saw Lobro mention it in one of his posts.

      That was very lazy and sloppy of me.

      Yes, of course I understand what you are saying about nationalism. But that’s more a general idea of nationalist groups in many countries. I would like the opinion of a Russian.

      Back to Rousso then 🙂

      1. Continuation;

        “the sheer magnitude of Russian losses means that Putin cannot simply say the whole war was a Zio plan (which it was).”

        On the contrary I should think. It is essential that Russians know who caused all their suffering. The Zio plan of the Zio-Bolsheviks and the Zio- western Allies are responsible for their losses, not anti-Zio Germany or the anti-Zio National Socialists. And this is why I would like to hear from a Russian about nationalists in Russia. Because one can find many references of Russian nationalists endorsing National Socialism, of which the symbols are outlawed as well. In any case, there are Russians who know the truth and want to express it. So with outlawing holo-denial these Russians are simply cast aside. Not very unifying, is it? That is no different than the outcasting of ‘neo-nazi’s ‘ in the west.

        How can any healthy society live on lies?

    2. @1138

      “The Zio plan of the Zio-Bolsheviks and the Zio- western Allies are responsible for their losses, not anti-Zio Germany or the anti-Zio National Socialists.”

      This is why it is important for me that I remain sceptical, even it if means offending others. I was shocked when I finally realised that Western Europe (the entire Western world infact) is actually occupied by Zionism. Europe is a Zionist Satrapy.

      So if the Zionists can rule the most powerful nationstates in the world; and can disguise this rule via their total control of media, politics, academia, finance and the economy…then why assume Russia is immune to this vast conspiracy?

      More importantly, Putin has overtly praised Israel and has associated with Jewish Chabad nutjobs. One would be a fool not to question these links.

    3. Flopot,

      Oh, sorry, I assumed you were Russian because I saw Lobro mention it in one of his posts.

      That was very lazy and sloppy of me.

      And by the same criteria my guilt is tripled.
      And if I wasn’t lazy, I would track down the Flopot’s post that gave me that idea but nevermind …

      1. Sorry to disappoint. I probably expressed sympathy for the Russian viewpoint. I’m still shocked that the whole Bolshevik project was just another exercise in Talmudic-inspired genocide. I am loath to see that happen again; which is why many of us hope that Putin is the real deal.

  4. Back in Germany, I was put on trial for scholarly works I had published while in the U.S., where those works are completely legal: My magnum opus Lectures on the Holocaust, and a FAQ brochure. Those works were banned, and I was sentenced to 30 more months in prison. Since those “offenses” are not a crime under U.S. law, I managed to immigrate permanently to the U.S. in 2011, where I rejoined my U.S. citizen wife and daughter.

    Ms. Darkmoon’s previous article,


    sheds more light onto Mr. Rudolph’s work:

    These statistics concerning prisoners in Auschwitz camp purport to be taken directly from Soviet archive material, now available on microfilm from the former Soviet Central Archives. Also, a good deal of corroborative material from the German Archives concerning the German State Railways has been located in the German State Archives (Bundesarchiv) and utilized. [….]

    These statistics have been collected and compiled by several people, based on microfilm copies of the original records supplied by Germar Rudolf before his arrest in America and extradition to Germany. There he will face trial for challenging the State’s Holocaust dogma. The contributors to this page have agreed that credit should be given to Rudolf who, however, is not responsible for any errors in transcription or interpretation.

    Following gives a summary and further explanation of what legal action transpired against Mr. Rudolf.


    On September 11, 2004, Rudolf married a US citizen and settled in Chicago, and they later had a child.[6] He applied for political asylum, or at least for the right not to be expelled, but this was turned down in November 2004 on the basis that the application had no merits and was “frivolous.” Rudolf appealed against this ruling, and in early 2006 the US Federal Court in Atlanta found that his application was not frivolous, but upheld the decision that it had no merit.[1] The Immigration Services stated that Rudolf did not have a right to file an application to remain with his family. On November 14, 2005, Rudolf was deported to Germany where he was wanted for inciting racial hatred[7] and “disparaging the dead”.[4] On arrival there he was arrested by the police and transferred to a prison in Rottenburg, then to another in Stuttgart in Baden-Württemberg. On March 15, 2007, the Mannheim District Court sentenced him to two years and six months in prison for inciting hatred, disparaging the dead, and libel. Rudolf accepted the verdict, and copies of his “Lectures on the Holocaust” were confiscated and destroyed. The prosecution’s initial request to confiscate €214,000 was reduced to €21,000, the total turnover from the sales of the book.[8] He was released from prison on July 5, 2009 and now lives in the US with his wife and daughter.

    The deaths that occurred during WW2 and within prison walls are tragic. Every bit of evidence sheds more light into what exactly happened, and as a result, the total truth should be made known. Untruths and partial truths should be exposed for what they are, deviations to what truly happened. Yet, there are those who would prefer to continually perpetuate these to suit their own agendas for control and destruction of others.

    It is rather sad that Mr. Rudolph should face punitive actions for simply analyzing facts and drawing conclusions from them. This is what is considered to be an objective, scientific method. Yet It seems that Germany has turned to methodologies of a quaint reminder to a dark period in US history, the Salem witch trials of 1692 and 1993 where all but one was hanged. Stephan in Biblical Acts was similarly stoned for simply expressing the truth before the Jews.

    Perhaps this why the oligarchy wants national borders removed. One can be tried for crimes against a particular nation, that are otherwise permitted in their nation of residence. In the case of Mr. Rudolph, the borders were already erased. In a similar vein, US has already pursued a direction that a US citizen’s life can be terminated abroad without due process. It is not a matter of what is right, but rather one of control.

  5. Look you two (++ because there are more out there).
    Skepticism is for the most part a healthy, protective instinct but going overboard can be harmful if not downright suicidal, like (speaking of “overboard”) a drowning man refusing a lifesaver because the crew may be pirates.
    In fact, they may, but what choice does he have, a certain death or a probable one?

    Rather than continuing to do unpaid Putin promos, let me switch the tack and take a gander at what happens if Pat is right and Putin is just another stooge in the Rothschild gallery of traitors.

    Let us assume that Jews actually WANT Assad to survive and IS to fail, that they wanted their franchise building talent like Khodorkhovsky to pick cockroaches out of his cornflakes in some rat infested cell for 10 years, that they wanted to be unable to go after Iran, all that racket was for our entertainment, including Ahmedinejad freely and publicly making fun of St. Holocaust.

    What next?
    I’ll tell you what next: We are done, stick a fork in us because there is nowhere to hide, lizards saying All Your Base Are Belong To Us.
    Shut down Darkmoon before Jewquisition comes for her and her harmless tribe, ask Sister Monica to pray for us antisemites, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death Amen.
    Because there is no escape and resistance is futile, what do you think you can do?
    Join some FBI infested posse of retired tattooed truckers airbrushing their Harleys out in Wyoming?

    They’ll drone you until you’re gone, sure sounds like something Bob Zimmerman would play at your mass grave.
    Give me another, more upbeat but non-eschatological scenario according to which we stand a chance without Vlad.

    1. “Skepticism is for the most part a healthy, protective instinct but going overboard can be harmful if not downright suicidal, like (speaking of “overboard”) a drowning man refusing a lifesaver because the crew may be pirates.”

      That’s true too.

      We all want victory for the anti-Zionist coalition in Syria; but hope is not a substitute for vigilance. I said it before — I aint gonna be brainf**ked by zios no more. So I’m staying vigilant.

    2. I aint gonna be brainf**ked by zios no more. So I’m staying vigilant.

      Good for you.
      And stick with splats (**) lest Sister M figure it out 🙂
      But … don’t overrate jew intelligence, they are not as smart as everyone thinks, i actually find them pretty stupid in the grand scheme, the guy that wrote The protocols is dead and gone – and i do think that it was just one singular mind that put that together, with able advisers on hand.
      Try as i might, i cannot see any possible benefit, short or long term that Juden would get out of pursuing the present developments if Putin was truly onboard as their lackey rather then enemy combatant.
      Maybe to suss out who from among the current crop of visibly kowtowing leaders, generals and so on would secretly jump ship and link up with him to doublecross the Satan.

    3. Lobro,

      “… Pat is right and Putin is just another stooge in the Rothschild gallery of traitors.”

      I aint saying that. The presence of large US compnanies in Russia means abslolutely nothing. And even the presence of big Jews as captains of industry doesn’t mean a thing. Even in NS Germany there were Coca Cola vending machines and jewish industrialists. And I’ve read enough articles indicating Putin wants to dump western liberal economic policies for a national orientated one. Which in my view is a colossal big deal.

      But make no mistake, Lobro, Putin – or whoever who is responsible for pushing the promotion of the holohoax – doesn’t want you, a staunch Hitler and NS admirer, as his/their friend. And there is no possible angle which could explain Iran’s take on THE LIE. That is totally genuine. That they are unable to go after Iran is because of Russian support, right? So that means they couldn’t even dream of going after Russia itself. And that means that the outlawing of the truth is Russia’s own choice and no armtwisting was necessary. It would have been different when holo-denial already WAS outlawed in Russia many years ago, before the Putin era, and that they still hadn’t changed that. But this is recently (2014) done And that means that there is still a lot of Zio influence IN Russia. Nothing else could explain such a draconian measure as outlawing the truth and deliberately keeping the Russians ignorant about who and what cuased their unspeakable suffering. And this is what bothers me. I hope you can see this.

      1. Yes I can see it and believe me, I would do that instantly in his place, play “neutral” on the question of Holoscam, because even neutrality (“let’s look at the facts and arguments impartially”) is a clear broadside against the Jew man-o-war against humanity.

        But what i suspect is going on is something along the following lines: Put and jew are playing blind man’s buff, even Saddam tried it but his desperation was obvious (“Mother Of All Wars”) and they took him down in a hurry.
        So let’s have a bit of game theoretic fun here, jew’s favorite.
        Russia is weaker, much weaker that the US juggernaut and in an open, traditional war, it would probably lose – accent on “probably” and the Jew would have his ancient dream and prophecy come fully true.
        The question for Jew is how much weaker and what would be the price of victory and in fact, what is the probability of victory, because you never know.
        Russia may have secret weaponry that they haven’t shown the world, everyone was shocked by the tiny Caspian frigates firing long range cruises, wasn’t thought possible except from giant destroyers – just one example.
        Their S-400 and S-500 systems are by far the best and nullify any idea of a first strike – WHAT WILL BE THE RESPONSE?
        Remember my insistence that the response MUST INCLUDE THE JEW, worldwide, by whatever means, correct Hitler’s great error of Zero Holocaust.
        and such a response, if thorough would mean a very hollow(caust) victory.
        Or maybe there would be a military coup attempt/P[success]? (probability) in Pentagon.
        Lots of unknowns for the Jew, many ways to commit a deadly, irreversible mistake.
        What if Russia and China, aided by Iran and even India win the great war?
        What if Germany and/or Japan jump ship? Just because they prosecute Holocaust denial is no guarantee of ultimate loyalty.
        Do you see that?
        And this is the game Putin is playing, I am sure, because he is buying time for him and his allies, they are rapidly modernizing their armed forces, economies quite healthy (he did pay off Russia’s debt, didn’t he), while the West is sinking mired in its own sewage and debt, only Germany firing as always on all cylinders.
        Because Putin will win the long game, so these are the horns of Jew’s painful dilemma.

        Unless Putin declares open war and that would be open files on 9/11 and Olocaust because at that point, Jew is finished and might as well pull every known trigger – jew simply cannot afford the truth to come out and do nothing – DO YOU SEE THIS? That would be the instant destruction of centuries of careful buildup, not only would the Jew lose every advantage but there would be hell to pay.
        And Putin obviously knows this too, knows that Jew knows … thus the blind man’s buff.

        meanwhile we are just bored kids on Christmas Eve wanting to open the gift of archived secrets, what do we care about the big game out there.

      2. The Russian People did indeed suffer mass murder and starvation at the hands of the Bolsheviks, ( 60 million, Solzhenitsyn) and today’s Russians know that the Bolsheviks were Jews. There is good reason for antisemitism in Russia.

      3. Lobro,

        “meanwhile we are just bored kids on Christmas Eve wanting to open the gift of archived secrets, what do we care about the big game out there.”

        Well, it keeps us from the street 🙂

      1. Lasha has just told me she received an email a few hours ago from a guy who claims he has information that Putin’s father was a JEW who worked as a general factotum (a kind of butler/secretary/servant) for both Lenin and Stalin who also, this man goes on to claim, were BOTH Jews. She assures me that Lenin was only one-quarter Jewish and that Stalin was a Georgian.

        There is not a shred of evidence that Stalin was Jewish, she tells me, even though this disinfo is repeated endlessly on the internet. This doesn’t rule out the possibility of course that Stalin MIGHT have had some Jewish blood in him, but this applies to almost anyone. Many of us, without knowing it, could be partly Jewish. Maybe some remote ancestor was Jewish.

      2. @Toby In my opinion if you have Jewish blood but are not aware of it, that will not affect your behavior. You won’t somehow take the Jewish side on issues because of your DNA. In other words, for practical purposes, you’re not a Jew. Hitler’s driver (and friend) was partially Jewish and he was one of the first members of the SS. Chancellor Helmut Schmidt served in the Wehrmacht during the war, became Chancellor of Germany and late in his life (in the 1990’s I believe) found out one of his grandfathers was Jewish. An illegitimate child caused this. He was always considered very German.

        People that are Jews and brought up in the Jewish tradition, which are most Jews, these are the people that act like Jews, are loyal to their people, support what their leaders support and this always includes things that are opposed to the interest of gentiles, and that is why they have problems with everyone else. One other thing I noticed is every publication will almost always claim the Jew wasn’t religious (which is completely irrelevant), “wasn’t brought up in a Jewish household” and “felt German” or “felt English” or something like that. They will do this for people like Albert Einstein, who wrote the letter to FDR kicking off the Manhattan Project with the intention of dropping the bomb on Germans. In this way, they try disassociate his actions with him being a Jew. Rousso would like to do that with the Jews that oversaw the murder of Ukrainians. I believe most Jews with even a Jewish grandparent feel Jewish to a degree. More than any other people in the world, they are loyal to their group and will support other Jews and Jewry. To use their word, when they apply it to Europeans (whites), they’re racist.

      3. Oh yes Toby this email “from a guy” is much harder stuff than what retired British intel agents and former kGB would be telling Greg Hallett.

        Stalin’s mother katrine was impregnated by Edmond Rothschild when he stopped in to party in Georgia with one of his buddies. So if Rothschild is not jewish then I guess Stalin is not either. Why such an aversion to truth? Because it doesn’t fit the party line we have been handed for decades?

        The vatican plants have been behind just about every war, WWII was no different. Stalin was trained as a British AGENT.

      4. Oh yes Toby this email “from a guy” is much harder stuff than what retired British intel agents and former kGB would be telling Greg Hallett.

        Stalin’s mother katrine was impregnated by Edmond Rothschild when he stopped in to party in Georgia with one of his buddies. So if Rothschild is not jewish then I guess Stalin is not either. Why such an aversion to truth? Because it doesn’t fit the party line we have been handed for decades?

        The vatican plants have been behind just about every war, WWII was no different. Stalin was trained as a British AGENT.


      5. I agree with you, Peter.
        I also enjoy the foaming at the mouth I cause when I tell a (((poster))) that if a baby born in a Jewish family is taken away, especially if it’s a male infant saved before “day 8”, and raised in a normal family without any awareness of his origins he has as many chances of growing up to be a normal human being as any non-Jewish baby.

      6. As a young infant Lenin was adopted by the Ulyanov family, having been abandoned by his Jewish mother. He was aware of this.

      7. @Ariadnatheo

        You are correct concerning the child.

        To be brainwashed, there has to be a brainwasher, the jewish cult. The genetic thing is just there to keep people from considering exiting the cult when they discover the cult is just a bunch of lies. If the potential escapee becomes a “jewish atheist,” that’s okay because they are still opposed to Jesus. The jewish cult uses this method of lies because it has been proven to work for their control purposes.

  6. Jewish Power is based on our fear of being accused of antisemitism, when the problem is not gentile antisemitism but Jewish antigentilism. The truth is beginning to get through. Despite Jewish control of the media many people are skeptical about the holocaust.

    Prosecuting people for asking questions?

  7. Michael Shermer is an infamous sceptic and debunker. There is nothing scientific about what he do. He is more of a troll actually. I thought he was more into debunking UFO’s and such. Obviously he is also a good shabbo goy boy too.

    1. @ Morningstar

      He has cleverly acquired some credit by debunking crazy theories of fringe figures, but then he uses that credit by debunking all alternative theories that question “official” stories like JFK, Holocaust, 9/11 etc. He is probably a CIA agent, if not a Jew himself.

  8. “Having said that, let me also say that it is typical for people who have run out of arguments, or who are too lazy to muster convincing arguments, to resort to ad hominem attacks. The accusation of being an anti-Semite is the ultimate attack on a person, the ultimate attempt to destroy his reputation, because in today’s Western society, there is little more vitriolic than the accusation of being anti-Semitic.”

    It seems to be the norm today. It’s not just a case of people who have run out of arguments, because most times, there is no argument. You state something about something and then BOOM, out comes the anti semite slur or in its more common form – <i<nazi.

    Interestingly enough, this happened to me just the other day (again). Upon debating with an acquaintance, the conversation moved into his happiness for a multicultural and multiracial Scotland. Upon me disagreeing with him, out come the ‘nazi’ slur, instantly, along with calling me ‘Adolf’. I then proceeded to explain about Hitler having dragged his country out of the depths of despair, turning Germany into an economic power house, being on the cover of Time magazine a few times and loved by his people and many. It was only when WW2 happened and the propaganda started that the hatred ensued. Laughably I stated that he actually was a socialist and worse had voted for Scottish Independence, whereas I am an anarchist, never voted and am completely against state authority. In other words I said, not only was he a socialist, but his vote also made him a nationalist, ergo, he is a nazi. Regardless what I threw at him, it was just constant ad hominems, as Germar points out. The good news is that they’ve lost the debate and it’s more ground for the honest people out there, laughing off the insults.

  9. It’s scandalous that a truth researcher be persecuted in his own country (is it?) and find no refuge in Europe or in the U.S.A. I didn’t know the plague that be was that powerful. Otherwise how come people dare question the existence of God but can’t investigate the occurrence of the Holocaust?
    It’s high time the tyranny of the f(j)ew- however powerful- lifted, but it’s essential for the German people to rid themselves of this undeserved guilt before people in other nations can discard it as irrelevant to them.
    True, brave people like Mr. Rudolf are being persecuted but they are making a dent in this twenty century myth. A bunch of Rudolfs may widen the gap and let in more discontented people who will eventually demolish this psychological wall and set Germany free anew.

    1. There are many holes in the official Holocaust story. To me the main, and indisputable, one is that 4.3 million holocaust survivor Jews applied for compensation from the German government after the war. They were paid lump sums and life pensions. New York City in the 1970s was full of them. They never did a day’s work.

      The media would never reveal that, or any other fact that did not praise and support the Jews.

      The non-Jewish media people know all this but say nothing.

      1. ” 4.3 million holocaust survivor Jews ” + 6 million “holocausted” = 10.3 million Jews in… Jewrmany?

  10. “In fact, this is the only historical topic that is regulated by penal law.”

    This alone is all that is needed to know that the Holohoax is a lie. The truth stands on its own.

  11. Franklin Ryckaert on August 24, 2016 at 6:50 am wrote:

    @Gyorgy That’s part of his “macho” image. In his case the image matches the reality. Putin is also a good judoka:

    There’s nothing wrong with that. A president who takes care of his physical self by being in shape certainly distinguishes himself as a leader and example to the people. It is interesting how the oligarchy controlled media turn it to bad with their deceptive comments.

      1. hp, August 24, 2016 at 5:19 pm: Not to mention Putin could very likely personally wring Bibi’s and/or Bill Clinton’s neck.

        Actually, HP, you are not too far from the truth.


        Vladimir Putin has declared that he might make World War 3 happen if Hillary Clinton wins as president in the U.S. Elections. The Russian president says that it’s Clinton who brings the real threat of war, not Donald Trump. His declaration has stressed out a lot of Russians and Romanians. “If it’s Hillary Clinton, its war,” the Russian president declared.

        Putin’s declaration comes after the Obama regime’s activation on the Western Front of its European Phased Adaptive Approach (EPAA) missile system. Russia warns it is a direct threat to its own EPAA missile systems — and Putin feels that a war will begin if Hillary succeeds Barack Obama as president. “I could live without teeth if there would be no war,” Putin said. “Look at Hillary, it’s clear – she is ready to storm Russia tomorrow!”

        Putin has already notified his military leaders to prepare for the potential World War 3 that’s about to happen if Clinton is elected president. He has also commanded the Aerospace Defense Forces to speed up the distribution of two or more missiles attack early warning system satellites.

        Here is something interesting. US already has boots on the ground and has already warned Russia and Syria that US will attack their positions (i.e., countermeasures) if they “feel threatened”.


        It will be interesting to see how all this will play out. NATO missiles at the bidding of US are posed on Russia’s doorstep. An arrogant US backed coalition threatens Russia for interfering with operations, when Russia has been the leader supporting Syria by attacking ISIS positions. Turkey is on the verge of leaving NATO and joining hands with Russia. (This will most likely cause US and NATO elements in Incirclik Air Base to be evicted.)

        Any more pressure applied to the Russian Federation could make Putin realise that the US is a hopeless cause. For preservation of Russia, may feel it necessary to eliminate the threat by sending a clear message to the US. The only thing is that when Russia does it, it will most likely be swift, at an hour least expected, and which the US would have great difficulty in counter attack due to destruction of its major assets, military, re-supply and financial.

        I hope this is not the case, but Russia has greater defensive and survivability capabilities than US. US homeland is a sitting duck. Once it happens, I doubt seriously that US will be able launch an air or missile strike, even if from US homeland.

  12. Jews are 1 in 500 in the world, 1 in 240 in Britain and 1 in 60 in the USA. It is ludicrous to deny that Jews have power out of all proportion to their numbers. They control the money, the media, the government and nearly every aspect of society.

    I don’t hate Jews, especially as individuals, but I am entitled point out the lies and double standards.

    1. These lies and double standards are enforced by the media, where to even comment on Jews can cost you your job. It is fine to criticize the French, the Brits, the Catholics or the Mormons, but mention the Jews and you are finished. Have you ever seen a mention in the mainstream media of the FACT that the 5 men who executed the Tsar and his young family were all Jews?

      No wonder antisemitism is growing. They are their own worst enemies.

      1. “No wonder anti-semitism is growing.”
        It is indeed. I try to stay on top of it by reading trustworthy watchers like Everydayantisemitism.:

        I was shocked the other day to read there what goes on in Russian media. OK, I understand (after it was explained by Pat) that Putin as a tool of Jewry and in order to hide it he occasionally makes some odd reference to Jewish bolsheviks and allows some expressions of anti-semitism to go unchecked, but everything has a limit. This is unacceptable:
        “Moscow’s REN-TV aired an antisemitic documentary last Friday at prime time hours.
        The documentary was a reworking of a 2012 documentary that blamed the sinking of the Titanic on a conspiracy which one commentator said was a “reanimation” of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and one viewer described as having a “clearly expressed anti-Semitic subtext”.
        The documentary suggested a “group of 300” Jews, freemasons and “illluminati” had sunk the ship to provoke an international crisis and install themselves as leaders of a world government, a central theme of antisemitism conspiracy theories.
        The 2012 version of the documentary used the past tense, suggesting that the attempt was in the past and ultimately unsuccessful. However, REN-TV’s airing of the documentary was edited to use the present tense, as well as to link the conspiracy to various more recent events, including the Chernobyl disaster, 9/11, and the collapse of the Soviet Union.
        The Federation of Jewish Communities in Russia has already expressed concern about what the rise of such ideas in Russia could mean for the Jewish community.”
        This can embolden even the Germans to show their true colors and start talking out of school.

      2. Ariadna –

        JP Morgan owned the shipyard which built the Titanic. He was scheduled to go with Astor …. but got “sick.”

        John Jacob Astor was going to stop the ‘boys at Jekyll Island’ from pushing the Fed Res Act thru Congress.

        Astor and Morgan were rivals. He went down with Titanic. Fed Res Act passed.

        Astor was a personal friend of Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis. Brandeis greatly resisted the establishment of the private Central Bank. Astor, Guggenheim, and Straus were three extremely wealthy Pharisee-Jews who went down with the Titanic.

        The RMS Titanic was insured for £1 million and placed by the brokers Willis Faber & Co. The sum was paid promptly to the White Star Line.

        J.P. Morgan was thought by many to be the richest man in the world , but upon his death it was discovered he was merely a lieutenant within the Rothschild empire owning only 19% of the J.P. Morgan Companies.

        Owner of Titanic:
        John Pierpont (JP) Morgan. American financier and founding owner of the International Mercantile Marine Company. (IMMC) This company was the controlling trust and retaining ownership of the White Star Line, Red Star Line, Dominion Line, American Transport Line, and the Leyland Line. Although Titanic was actually an American owned vessel, Morgan kept the ships of his trust under British registry with British crews. This was in order to escape being accused of violating the American Sherman Anti-Trust Act of 1890. (The act that took down J.D. Rockefeller’s Standard Oil Company)  Most of the vessels flew both American and British flags with the White Star Line burgee. Morgan also owned US Steel, General Electric and numerous banks and other financial institutions. JP Morgan and company continues to thrive today (JP Morgan Chase) Morgan had intended on accompanying Titanic on her maiden voyage but took ill. He died shortly after the Titanic disaster in 1913.

      3. Ariadna, you are a gem!
        Where are all those crying how Putin is a Judeo-pawn oppressing the truthers?
        As if anywhere in the world, aside from Iran can people not only freely say such stuff but it actually goes on TV!
        Can ROUSSO translate those signs that people are waving at that protest … i figure that “EBPEN” stands for “EVREI”, ie Hebrews (“Ebrai” in Italian as was on that plaque in Bab Toma, Damascus Capuchin church commemorating the martyrdom by cannibal Jews of some poor friar at Purim – plaque was removed at the insistence of Rothschild and Montefiore).

        Keep digging like a terrier, Ariadna.

      4. Pat, thanks on the Titanic data.
        Looks like Pierpont was an early version of Larry Silverstein and Titanic of 9/11.
        The difference being that JP Morgan was a goy and had to be disposed of, lest the remorse get the better of him, say on deathbed.
        Jews get remorse appendage clipped on Day 8, like Doberman’s tail.

      5. Yes, Lobro –

        The Siverstein types have run the insurance scam since their brethren invented insurance.
        Merchants started it. Insurance helped start UCC.
        Merchants murder for profits. Go figger.
        Glad to help.

  13. @1138: Thank you
    1. Verbatim
    Jews don’t plant bread (wheat)
    Jews deal in businesses (commerce)
    Jews used to… (? don’t know the word)
    Jews steal a lot
    2. Memorable quote: “Jews get remorse appendage clipped on Day 8, like Doberman’s tail.”
    (although a painful personal memory for me… not my fault: when I got her she was 10 weeks old, tail already docked, stub still in bandages. Curiously, the breeder was a German woman!)

  14. Ariadnatheo’s post makes it on the commentary baord, but my posts which are so much informative, compelling, interesting, intriguing, languish in Dark Moon Mother “Superior’s” convent dungeon cell. I’m living in the dark ages and the “Catholics” threw me into a dark dungeon!! HELP!

    1. Keep making your commentaries as “informative, compelling, interesting, intriguing” as these last two and you’ll make it.
      In the meantime, be a man! Don’t whine. Nobody respects a whiner.

  15. Where’s Sister Monica today? At Matins? At Lauds? At Prime? At Terce? At Sext? At None? At Vespers? At Compline? Or, an ALL day and ALL night marathon of ALL OF ‘EM?

  16. Russo: “Can you read Russian? Then check this:
    And please, stop posting idiotic remarks under my comments.”

    1. Don’t be a rude little brat (withot a myagkiy znak) if you expect a dialog.
    2. If you name the book that is in your opinion “the last good Russian book ever written” and then say you didn’t read it because you saw the movie … and if you keep listing wikipedia as your bibliography, some people may not take your reading recommendations seriously.
    3. On the other hand, re your link, get this: If MEMRI publishes a video showing some Palestinians holding signs that say “Jews, get out of Palestine” do you think it should be dismissed because the source is tainted? I am not interested in how they editorialize the event, I am interested in the event. Can you prove it did not take place? It’s not some kind of Rita Katz video, is it?

    1. I am not being rude, babe. Your remarks are indeed idiotic. Think about it: people here don’t speak Russian, so I must find a reference in English for them. And if I post it then perhaps I got a reason to be sure of its correctness?

      And I also said that the author, not the book, was the last Russian writer that deserves reading. You misunderstand simple sentences. I recommended the movie because it’s better than the book.

  17. What the Jews have done to you darkmooners ,nothing ,Nada ,zilch
    so why are you hallucinating and foaming at your unclean beastly mouths
    whats wrong with you ,you mentally diseased bigots.
    was your witch refused service by a holy kosher stud? and hence the deep seated hate and devilish envy of the chosen.

    1. yes monk these people are evil
      why are you even here ,reading their crap and posting

      [ADMIN: ‘Monk’ is talking to himself, asking himself why he is on this ‘evil’ site and ‘reading their crap’.]

      1. @ admin

        The comment interface on this site sucks. It might be so much better than this. Please, install Disqus or something else. It’s a torture to find a comment I posted earlier and check if there is a response. There are plugins like Cackle and HyperComments, free and simple to use. Please, think about it.

      2. @ Rousso

        Our technical knowledge is zero. Our technical support man has gone missing. Be grateful you can comment at all. No one else has complained that we have failed to achieve technical perfection! 🙂

  18. I think Putin is only interested in Russia’s well-being, not necessarily anything other. Except when something other happens to be a country that is of value to Russia’s well-being. Now, that only makes sense, he is the president of Russia, not another country. He is only doing his job.

    In order to let Russia thrive he has to eradicate all who want to sabotage Russia’s well-being. Many international Jews are saboteurs of Russia’s well-being. Putin already has dealt with most, if not all Russian jewish saboteurs by putting them behind bars or expelling them. These days it seems that Soros types and hostile entities like the US – basically the same thing – are his main worry.

    So he is not anyone’s boy. I am conviced he is his own man. BUT, he’s not going to be our saviour. That is, sure he will wellcome any foreign allies, if they are useful to Russia. And, of course, ANY ally would be useful to Russia. Some are more valuable than others, but still. But any allied relationship will not necessarily be based on a mutual ideology or respect for each other’s history. Not if that would mean disclose the truth about Russia’s role in WWII, because Putin will never do that. So I’m afraid any hope of him ever setting the record straight concerning the holohoax is in vain. That’s not going to happen because it would shatter the self image Russia has idealised for so long. Let’s face it, the holohoax is basically fabricated in Russia, That’s why Russia, like all western countries, is oppressing the truth albeit motivated from a slightly different angle than the latters. Putin also wants to maintain the multicultural Russian empire and will not allow any white nationalism in Russia.

    I still wellcome any opposition to the JWO, and Russia and the JWO have opposing interests, just like China and Iran, and currently Syria and a bunch of others. So that’s good. But Putin wouldn’t lift a finger to educate the world about the holohoax or Hitler, despite he knows exactly what Hitler wanted and why, which is more or less similar, well sort of, to what Putin wants for Russia and why. Never.

    1. 1. Russian Central Bank still Rothschild-run? Check.
      2. Syria on the road to partition? Check.
      3. Iran still waiting on final delivery of s-300s? Check.

      Central Banks are the primary Zio-tool of dominance; the break-up of Syria is a a key Zio-goal; and the Iran is a key regional enemy of Israel.

    2. 1138,

      That’s better. I agree, except in the last sentence there is still misunderstanding. Putin is not a nationalist and not a socialist, and he is far from being more or less similar to Hitler.

      1. Rousso,

        “Putin is not a nationalist and not a socialist, and he is far from being more or less similar to Hitler.”

        I have no clear idea about what Putin’s motives are, let alone if he is a nationalist or a socialist.
        And he is most DEFINITELY nothing like Hitler, nobody is. But he does want a sovereign Russia, and one could say that’s more or less what Hitler wanted for Germany. What ANY genuine leader wants for his nation.

        One thing that could possibly motivate him, apart from his genuine concern for Russia’s well-being, which is that as a billionaire himself – if that is true, obviously I couldn’t tell you – his personal and family’s business/financial interests – which I’m sure extend far beyond Russia’s border line – are best served by a strong and sovereign Russia. But again, nothing but mere speculation on my part. But in case he really is a billionaire with huge personal financial interests that would add to the pile of differences between him and a truly totally independant leader as Hitler who didn’t have such vulgar considerations.

      2. Yes, from an outsider’s perspective, this is it. I meant that Hitler’s internal politics and Putin’s politics are opposite poles, so a comparison like that is kind of out of place. I don’t think that he is a billionaire, but his friends are for sure.

      3. Yes, Rousso – – –

        Putin’s daughter married one of Vlad’s billionaire $$$$ friends:

        Putin’s daughter and her husband controlled assets worth about $2 billion, including a seaside villa in Biarritz, France, estimated to be worth about $3.7 million.

        The report said Katerina, 29, was the “spouse” of Kirill Shamalov, son of Nikolai Shamalov, a banker and longtime friend of the president.

        The foundation of the couple’s wealth is a stake in a major gas and petrochemical company that Kirill acquired from Gennady Timchenko, another longstanding friend of Putin.


      4. Rousso – –

        There are claims that Putin is a billionaire and thief:

        Bill Browder, the CEO of Hermitage Capital Management, formerly Russia’s largest foreign investor, and a once supporter of President Putin gives some insight. He describes the dynamics between power and wealth in Russia, claiming that during “the first eight or 10 years of Putin’s reign over Russia, it was about stealing as much money as he could. And some people, including myself, believe that he’s the richest man in the world, or one of the richest men in the world, with hundreds of billions of dollars of wealth that was stolen from Russia.”

        On Putin’s net worth:
        “I believe that it’s $200 billion. After 14 years in power of Russia, and the amount of money that the country has made, and the amount of money that hasn’t been spent on schools and roads and hospitals and so on, all that money is in property, bank – Swiss bank accounts, shares, hedge funds, managed for Putin and his cronies.”

        On Putin and his cronies:
        “These guys killed Sergei Magnitsky, my lawyer, for money. They all got rich, they all got bank accounts and villas and cars. Why should we allow them to come to America, travel to America, keep their accounts here, spend that money?”

      5. No, Pat, Bill Browder is a huge crook himself and I don’t trust him. You shouldn’t trust him too. He got kicked out of Russia and is talking shit. Putin once sold his painting at some auction for $4,000,000 and I think he is not a painter at all. But he did make his friends rich. That’s true.

      6. Rousso –

        Thanks. I trust no one at those levels. The ‘top’ is laced with crooks. ALL national leaders are crooks.

        Except Nixon.. “I’m NO CROOK..!!” Ooops… lips movin.. 🙂

      7. Rousso –

        He was taken down by Hillary Clinton’s efforts, among many others’ efforts… because he cussed and swore a blue streak about Pharisee-Jew bastards…!!!
        They had him on tape… HIS own tapes. 🙂

        These are tame in comparison to those floating around in the 70s….. put out by Nixon supporters who hated what the Pharisee-Jews did to him:

        Pharisee-Jew spies:

        With Billy Graham:

        President Richard Nixon’s recordings reveals new details on how the disgraced president felt towards women, gay people and Jews


        THIS is just one reason why Hillary is being rewarded now as next president….. for her efforts.. 🙁

    3. Good luck making contact with Sister Monica Monitor, Rousso. If she ain’t at Lourdes, she’s at Fatima, if she ain’t at Lourdes or Fatima, she’s on Pilgrimage on the El Camino de Santiago de Compostela, today she’s at The Shrine of Our Lady of Medjugorje [ The Favorite One for Novus Ordo types as Medjuorje was a false apparation], tomorrow Sister will be in England on Pilgrimage to Canterbury, she’s hoping by praying at Canterbury she will achieve :



      It just might be Our Good Sister’s LAST SUPPER, sayin’. 🙂

    4. 1138 –

      Putin welcomes, invites and needs the Pharisee-Jew Bankers and their investments in Russia. He has said so…. even with the phony embargo in place:

      Putin keeps the foreign investors interested in buying up Russia.
      More…. BIG BUCKS for London’s Pharisee-Jew Bankers.

      London’s Pharisee-Jew Bankers own Boeing.

      Putin needs help building Russia’s airplanes..!! 🙂

      “We are talking about the development of cooperation and hope that it will continue to develop further,” Putin – TOLD – Russia’s foreign partners near the Boeing stand at the MAKS-2015 International Air Show.

      Putin even issued a DECREE proving that.. ACTION..!! 🙂


      Russia’s TASS reports Putin’s – DECREE – authorizes 70% foreign ownership.

      President Putin signs – DECREE – on consolidation of Sheremetyevo Airport assets
      August 28, 2015

      MOSCOW, August 28. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on establishment of Sheremetyevo Airport joint stock company with the government’s stake in the charter capital of at least 30%. The document was posted on the official website on Friday.


      Russia hopes to boost cooperation in aviation with foreign partners — Putin
      TASS reports Boeing specialists briefed Putin on various projects….

      ZHUKOVSKY, August 25. /TASS/. Russia hopes for further development of cooperation in the field of aviation with foreign partners, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday.

      “We are talking about the development of cooperation and hope that it will continue to develop further,” Putin – TOLD – Russia’s foreign partners near the Boeing stand at the MAKS-2015 International Air Show.

      Putin is not doing what you are guessing he is. “think” = GUESS.
      “I think Putin is only interested in Russia’s well-being, not necessarily anything other.”

      Unlike your guess… Putin is FARMING OUT Russia to Pharisee-Jew Bankers for $$$$…!! 🙂

    1. My jury is out on turkey invasion of the borderlands.
      They may be actually acting in tacit concert with Assad, because they are targeting 2 groups that threaten Syria’s sovereignty, Kurds and IS. Both are supported by Jews on the other hand.
      Though I to a solid extent sympathize with Kurds, their goals are regional, viz, Kurdish ethnic independence, whereas my concerns are global, viz, solution to Judean problem.

      I don’t like or trust Erdogan but that doesn’t mean that in pursuing his goals, survival and power, his actions cannot move the ball forward.
      I also think that he got the green light from Putin, therefore Iran and Syria.
      Just guessing, so we shall see.

      1. “Though I to a solid extent sympathize with Kurds, their goals are regional, viz, Kurdish ethnic independence, whereas my concerns are global, viz, solution to Judean problem.”

        Kurdistan is a Zionist goal — THEY have a global goal with regional variations 😉

        So if Syria does get partitioned by the so-called great powers, that’s a Zionist partition. That’s why I put it down as a benchmark to prevent any hasbara brainwashing — it is non-negotiable.

      2. Flopot, please pay attention to what I am saying:
        ° Yinon plan calls for dismemberment of all the surrounding secular Muslim countries, ie, not ruled by zio-friendly Hollywood-made monarchies.
        ° Kurds want to separate from Syria, Turkey, Iran and Iraq, which is why jew supports it covertly but massively.
        ° Erdogan is invading Syria or rather “Syria” (because this territory is out of Damascus control) in order to suppress Kurds territorial ambitions, since they threaten equally or more the Turkey itself.

        So tell me what do you want to do:
        ° leave the secessionist minded Kurds to their devices, aided as they are (for the time being) by Israel and the US – which guarantees the breakup of Syria, especially as Russia cannot intervene on legal and moral grounds – they attacked bloodthirsty IS, remember, not a legitimate group like Kurds – I hope you see clearly that this greatly favors Israel’s aims
        ° let Turkey do its bit with Putin’s and Assad’s tacit/putative approval, because if Turks manage to force Kurds to abandon their separatist claims, getting these border slivers of land is a lot easier from Turkey as a UN member, internationally recognized borders, etc then from a paralegal entity such as some Kurd faction (and there are dozens).

        There is no third way, fish or cut bait.

      3. “° let Turkey do its bit with Putin’s and Assad’s tacit/putative approval, because if Turks manage to force Kurds to abandon their separatist claims, getting these border slivers of land is a lot easier from Turkey as a UN member, internationally recognized borders, etc then from a paralegal entity such as some Kurd faction (and there are dozens).”

        I hope you’re right, so we shall see. It means placing an awful lot of trust in the Turks.

        “leave the secessionist minded Kurds to their devices”

        Russia opened an administrative office for the Kurds in Moscow; allowed the Syrian Kurds to be excluded from the ceasefire talks; and openly criticized Assad when he stated he was fighting to reunite all of Syria. These actions encourage secessionist feelings.

        Benchmark: if Syria is allowed to be partitioned, that is a fatal strike against Putin being anti-Zionist. As you say, there is no third way: Syrian integrity or the road to partition. I hope you’re right.

      4. Lobro –

        I thought you said all along that Turkey is controlled by US… especially since they shot down Russia’s jet.

        We all know Turkey’s troops are led by US ‘advisors’ if not outright US military.

        So, US would “be actually acting in tacit concert with Assad..”

        Further…. showing US is backing Turkey in Syria:

        The actions by Turkey are part of “Operation Euphrates Shield.”

        It is a major U.S.-backed incursion into Syria.

        Syrian rebels backed by Turkish special forces, tanks and warplanes on Wednesday entered Jarablus, one of Islamic State’s last strongholds on the Turkish-Syrian border.

        You are switching stories ….again….. waffling…. 🙂

      5. If Syria is partitioned with Russia’s tacit approval, I will not be surprised to find some people defending that outcome. My goal is to head that sophistry off at the pass. Syrian partition is a Zionist goal and any moves by Russia to support such an outcome must be highlighted for what they are — Zionist planning and conspiring.

        I’M NOT ACCUSING the Russian regime of being Zionist — I am only highlighting events, people, associations and actions that make me suspicious. It pays to be paranoid in a Zionist World Order. 😛

  19. @Rousso

    Are you people really so naive?
    REN TV is a channel owned by a known anti-Russian Judaic troll Lesnevsky family. Except the channel, mother and son also run the ”oppositional” Russophobic magazine and Internet site “The New Times”.
    This film is a provocation and a fake.

    Slow down, Rus. The middle part is true by the looks of it but that doesn’t imply the bracketing statements.
    REN may well have aired this for the same reason that the EveryDayAntisemitism gave it space: to demonstrate the very opposite of what you regularly claim: that Putin and Russia grovel before Jews, namely, that they are openly and unabashedly “antisemitic”, Jew-haters without fear of expressing themselves.

    Because that religious demonstration is not fake – or is it.
    people carrying large signs calling spade a spade: Jews don’t work, ie, are parasites that never contribute to welfare of the society, that they are thieves and so on.
    Tv coverage is one thing, facts on the ground are another, which do you give more weight?
    And the facts on the ground is that
    such a demonstration can be legally organized, it is supported by the Russian Orthodox Church, which is supported by Putin.
    You just can’t avoid this assertion, too well evidenced.
    Therefore, any resulting logic is also firmly founded.

    I guess you guys find the true democracy and the freedom of speech it entails a novel and therefore confusing concept, namely that a Jew-run, highly Talmudophile media can be coexisting side-by-side with its moral opposite, groups openly espousing the truth.
    For those unable to get used to this idea, unipolar JeWest is a safe harbor.

    1. Point of order: the supposed founder of Zionism, Theodor Herzl, stated in his diaries that anti-semitism is Zionism’s friend. The Zionists promote anti-semitism as one of their core propaganda tactics: from old Jews in Paris spraying Nazi symbols on their property; Mossad blowing up their own embassies ( and probably massacring their sport teams); to planting knives by the bodies of murdered Palestinians.

      Zionists LOVE anti-semitism.

      Just sayin’.

    2. Herzl don’t fool me none.
      Jews are welcome to blow up their embassies and murder their sports teams, who am I to object?
      Let’s see who gets tired first, Jews killing Jews or me watching.

      (or am I an antisemite because i don’t want to stop Jews from killing Jews … tell me about catch-22 again … out of respect for Zionists, i love anti-semitism too)

      1. The goal is not to please you — it is to increase fear and self-censorship amongst Western populations; brainwash those populations into sympathizing for poor ickle Israel; allow ZOGs to introduce more Orwellian legislation (historical enquiry as a criminal act); and to distract everyone from the fact that Zionists run their societies.

      2. The goal is to be like me and see through their cheap swindles.

        If I dive for cover every time Shlomo points at some Muslim and screams “terrorist”, I deserve to eat hay out of the same trough with other cows and goats.

        I will speak the truth, whether the sheeple plug their ears or not.

    3. Dear Lobro,

      People here are too smart for their own good. You all keep on talking about Russia’s issues in such a manner, as if it’s possible to just think a little bit and figure it out, regardless of being strangers to the place.

      That ‘religious demonstration’ is a meeting of the Russian nationalists, a radical group of them, and it took place a long time ago. A long time ago. I have seen that photo before, a long time ago.

      The slogan on their banner is a poem of Boris Slutski. He describes his experience of being a Jew in Russia: ‘The Jews do not sow, the Jews sell in their shops, the Jews steal a lot and the Jews are bad soldiers’, etc. And then he goes on, ‘I heard all this from childhood’.

      Just because some Christian paraphernalia is used doesn’t mean it is supported by the Russian Orthodox Church. This group is called ‘Union of Orthodox Banner-Bearers’ and it has been banned since 2010, or so.

      And the reason the REN TV made that film, and aired it, is nothing else but their desire to make some people in Russia and outside of it anxious and to stir up a reaction to a problem that in fact doesn’t exist, but thanks to them it seems so.

      Search ‘Russian TV station blames Jews for Titanic’ and see the amount of articles that popped up just overnight: The Jewish Chronicle, Arutz Sheva, Jerusalem Post, The Algemeiner, etc.

      Listen to Flopot. He is right. His point is correct.

  20. In case you haven’t noticed,
    In every area of interest, he strives to gain absolute monopoly, often disguised as fake opposition and competition where in fact there is none, always the Globetrotters (“current owners Herschend Family Entertainment”) versus the Generals (“current owners Herschend Family Entertainment”) before the gullible public (“current owners Herschend Family Entertainment”).

    What does this tell you?
    That voicing opposing opinion spurs the search for truth, invariably fatal to Jew, like hosing a vampire with holy water.
    Therefore, allowing open dissent is the best antidote to Jew, breaking up his monopoly and it is this relization that is behind all these “hate speech laws” that are strangling oxygen supply to the Western brain.
    Nothing wrong with REN TV and Mazel Tov Chabad so long as I can also run my own programs as well as David Duke, Sheikh Imram Hosain, TROJ, Rev Farrakhan, let people make up their minds.

    1. I don’t see anyone arguing against open dissent, nor promoting media monopoly. The debate is about the veracity of certain anti-semitic protests, i.e. how do we know they are not Zionist propaganda?

    2. Flopot: if I speak the truth, how do you know that it isn’t propaganda, right?
      At some point people must grow into sentience, which implies a degree of critical analysis capability, I cannot do it for them, the old saw: you can take the horse to the water but you can’t make him drink.

      Granted that falling for Jew’s technicolor lies is easier and probably more entertaining than staying focused to arrive at truth but i can’t be blamed if someone insists on being stupid.
      You can bring every known argument and proof that Holocaust couldn’t have happened but if the guy says, I like that pole dance Rachel Weisz (can’t be bothered to look up the real one) did in Midnight Porter, what can you do?

      1. and this is why Russians seem (unfortunately for us) to be more mentally alert and they will organize and attend such demonstrations while the best we can manage is USA! USA!

      2. First of all, you can use historical enquiry to dig at the truth — you know that activity that the Zionists are banning in the West? And that not too dissimilar law in Russia?

        But if we don’t have access to information that provides more context — if we have to rely on trust — and given Zionism’s propensity to control BOTH sides of a conflict (that is another key Zionist weapon); then it is better to be sceptical.

      3. Flopot, we’ve gone around this loop more than once already

        you know that activity that the Zionists are banning in the West? And that not too dissimilar law in Russia?

        See that demonstration picture with signs saying “Ebrei Are Stealing/Lying” etc?
        It is legal in Russia and nowhere else, try to go around it, i won’t let you.
        And if it is legal, then it would also be legal for me to ask, “What do they mean by this, I’d like to investigate this topic more”.
        What can they say, call me a Denier (that Jews are thieves and liars)?
        So then, I can bring forth arguments and counterarguments:
        “All jews are pretty/All jewesses are geniuses, Einstein the greatest thinker, Harpo Marx the greatest philosopher, Karl Marx the greatest entertainer” and no, none of it is true, bring out the “Will of Canaan” by Eustace Mullins, stoke that bonfire of Jew’s vanities, split screen viewing of Saint Barber of Auschwitz Abe Bomba weeping puddles on one side, Moscow Circus star clown imitating him on the other, let people decide whether to laugh with one or cry with the other.

        this is called Dissimilarity my friend, make no mistake about it.
        How many times, how many times must I point out that NOBODY has been prosecuted or indeed persecuted for Holocaust denial in Russia?

        Russia: people publicly calling JEWS (I said Jews, not the mealy-mouthed “Israel, the apartheid Zionist state”) liars, thieves, parasites – and nothing happens.
        Russia: Femen Pussy Riot skanks prancing in church – jail time.

        West: people publicly calling jews liars, thieves, parasites – jail time, eg, Arthur Topham (or you are welcome to try if you don’t believe me)
        West: Femen Pussy Riot skanks respectfully and admiringly interviewed like Hollywood celebrities (why not, they are all whores in the same brothel) on Charlie Rose Show.

        Still see no Dissimilarities?

      4. Lobro –

        “See that demonstration picture with signs saying “Ebrei Are Stealing/Lying” etc?”

        Those are paid actors recruited off Craig’s List.. 🙂

        “if I speak the truth, how do you know that it isn’t propaganda, right?”

        How would you know… or no know…??

        We are all guessing…!!

      5. @Lobro

        “How many times, how many times must I point out that NOBODY has been prosecuted or indeed persecuted for Holocaust denial in Russia?”

        Fantastic, if true. I’ll research it myself just to be sure 😀

        Btw, you write like Lee Camp talks. He’s a funny guy.

      6. You are mistaken, Lobro.

        Anti-racist activists finally have a reason to mildly celebrate. Today, Russian xenophobe Aleksandr Belov was sentenced to six months in a penal colony for violating Article 282 of the Russian Criminal Code (“Inciting hate and enmity as well as the debasement of human dignity”). The case stems from the Russian March in fall 2007 where Belov goaded protesters “to chant anti-Semitic and anti-government slogans.”

      7. Rousso,

        Well, at least Russia has groups with names like ; ‘Army of the People’s Will’, ‘National Socialist Society’, ‘Movement Against Illegal Immigration’, ‘Slavic Union’, and the ‘Northern Brotherhood’ 🙂

        I can’t say the same for my country.

      8. Rousso, inspect the bait before going for it.
        Couple of caveats to the Belov story:

        Imprisoned Russian nationalist Aleksandr Belov (Potkin) says the FSB is persecuting him because he refused to collaborate with them to commit corporate raids and terrorist acts in Ukraine.

        We are fishing in murky waters here, it may be that they nailed Belov for something entirely different, but threw the “racist hate” thing at him just to make something stick, like jailing Capone for tax avoidance.
        Has he got a problem with the original name, Potkin?
        Frankly, the guy smells as fake as a $3 bill (or Al-Baghdadi)

        Let’s actually read and digest some of the stuff from YOUR link:

        People were wondering whether Belov would serve any time at all. The authorities were apparently afraid that jail time would turn Belov into a martyr.

        How come this consideration never helped keep Zundel, Irving, Toben, Topham, Haverbeck, Rudolf and others out of jail? Please explain, I am mighty curious, i keep hearing how Putin and Russia are just the same as we got it here in the West.

        They are certainly no more extremist than say the NATIONAL BOLSHEVIK PARTY. Yet even the mention of the latter in print can lead to a criminal inquiry as the editor of Vyatka osobaya gazeta is discovering. According to Kommersant, Nikolai Golikov, Vyatka‘s editor, is accused of “distributing” Natsbol literature because he used it in an item about their anti-crisis leaflets posted on banks in Kirovo-Chepetsk.

        NATIONAL BOLSHEVIK PARTY?1? Now we’re cooking with gas, as Jews like to say 😉
        So, the (((Bolsheviks))) are the ones who come under heavy fire and for whom this legislation seems to have been passed.
        Thoughts? Comments? Just mention Bolsheviks and you get the Chosen bunk above a gay weightlifter. Hmm? remember Putin’s: over 80% of Bolsheviks were Jews.

        Anyway, the arrest, sentencing and jailing of Belov has absolutely NOTHING to do with anti-semitism as implied, NOTHING to do with HoloDeny and everything to do with street politicking and maneuvering.
        Russians are definitely a lot more unruly than Yanks, Brits, Canucks, Krauts, all of whom hang their heads low and keep their noses to the grindstone.
        I guess that’s “civilization” for you.

        (who woulda thunk, huh? And the meme is that Russians suck up obediently to dictators while we are the free ones, they hate our freedoms)

      9. 1138,

        All of the mentioned groups are banned and considered extremist. Most of their leaders are doing time or are on the run. Some are fighting in Ukraine.

      10. No, Lobro.

        I mentioned that man, because he got sentenced to 7.5 years in prison just a couple of days ago. You should also read this:

        ‘The sentence with a warning: why did the authorities become more severe to the nationalists’

        Perhaps I should make it clear that I don’t support these people and that I consider most of them being morons, but I also don’t support the methods that ‘the people in charge’ use to suppress them. And in particular because for the time being, Chabad is celebrating Hanukkah at the Kremlin. You should read this one, too:

        ‘How a Jewish reporter celebrated Hanukkah at the Kremlin’

        That’s bad that you don’t speak Russian, Lobro. I’d like to show you some stuff from ‘Moshiach’ site. You wouldn’t believe that shit. You wouldn’t believe that it’s being published for all to see. And that the same authorities don’t have a problem with it. But trust me on this one.

      11. Rousso,

        That hanuka at the Kremlin article is really unbelievable. I mean I believe it, but that’s not good. That is pretty terrible.

      12. Rousso – Thanks

        1138 –

        Go to any Pharisee-Jew newspaper and put in search bar—-

        Putin or Kremlin or Moscow…… and it becomes apparent…. as it has to me…. that Putin loves Pharisee-Jews and filthy Chabad Lubavitchers.

        That’s how I do it.

        I showed this Hanukkah story a while back.

        Nobody commented because they missed it or did not fit their liking.

      13. Rousso, believe me when I say that I have a severe allergic reaction to these greaseballs and even looking at their pictures kills my appetite.
        But, diplomats and foreign affairs politicians must have cast iron stomach, part of the job description.
        Yeah, i read it top to bottom and I could speculate on what is going on but best to leave that aside.
        Putin only met with the head witchdoctor Lazar, who as a US born is obviously designated to keep a Kremlin watch by Chabad, same as Roman Abramovitch, both all smiles and super polite around Putin while dreaming of the day when they can sink a knife in his back.
        All part of the game.
        Lazar is Jewry’s ambassador to Russia.
        See this:

        This growth, spearheaded by Lazar and Chabad envoys willing to settle in the remotest of regions, has also exposed Lazar to passionate recriminations by liberal Russian and Ukrainian Jews that he is making Russian Jewry a fig leaf for Putin’s violations of international law, anti-democratic policies and persecution of other minorities. Lazar has dismissed the accusations, saying Jews are duty bound to restore their heritage in Russia, not to foment revolutions.

        Yeah right, to repeat: “Jews are duty bound to restore their heritage in Russia, not to foment revolutions” … can you spot a smooth lie in this sentence?
        All part and parcel of the game, including “willingness to settle in the remotest of regions“.
        They are talking Birobidjan here, the Yevreska Oblast and though there might be some Rusophile Jews there, what regular Jew would dream of even visiting some lumberjack camp in Siberia?
        Because that is Putin’s “generous” offer to Jews, welcome to Siberia and rabbis also pretend to be happy and grateful for it.
        But when domestic Jews decry the “fig leaf for Putin’s violations of international law“, we are back in the real world, because there is no such thing as “domestic” Jews they are all as international as HIV virus.
        And better believe that Putin knows it.

    3. Lobro –

      I agree when you wrote:
      “In every area of interest, he strives to gain absolute monopoly..”

      Monopolies can occur only with force from governments.

      That’s why London’s Pharisee-Jew Bankers required PATENT protections be placed in US Constitution to be administered by the government.

      It is embedded perversion of freedom…. not free market. Keeps out competition. Raises prices… DuPont takes full advantage today in AC refrigerant at $100+ per pound.

      “Congress shall have power . . . To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries.”

      Patents in the United States are governed by the Patent Act (35 U.S. Code), which established the United States Patent and Trademark Office (the USPTO). The most common type of patent is a utility patent. Utility patents have a duration of twenty years from the date of filing, but are not enforceable until the day of issuance. Design patents protect ornamental designs. Plant patents protect new varieties of asexually reproducing plants.

      To obtain protection under U.S. law, the applicant must submit a patent application to the USPTO, where it will be reviewed by an examiner to determine if the invention is patentable. U.S. law grants to patentees the right to exclude others from making, using, or selling the invention.

      1. Yes Pat, I am aware of what it takes to go through USPTO, having done it myself, 2 sets of specialist lawyers for a Canadian, one in Washington DC, another back home.
        Hefty bucks but EU is worse, because the application must be made in every member state of the Union, miss one, wasted money on the rest of them. At least that’s how it was 10 years ago, which gives big corporations a massive advantage, they can bear the cost and pass it on to shareholders and customers alike.
        But now my Cyclone-C is secure 😀

      2. “But now my Cyclone-C is secure”
        …. and known by Einstein-types.

        They modify yours and not that as ‘reference’ in their new ones…. by the dozens.

        That’s part of the deception also.

        It is RIGGED….. by Pharisee-Jew Bankers … for you to divulge how you did it.


      3. well, that’s the genius of Einstein types, what’s that sign that Ariadna kindly translated for us, “Evrei Are Thieves”.
        They have held the worldwide patent on crime for many centuries now.

        Mr Einstein, will you approve my patent application for Cyclone-C?
        Then how about Zyklon-B?

  21. @Lobro

    PS Have any prominent holocaust denial historians/speakers actually visited and spoken in Russia, i.e. presented their evidence about the holohoax? I ask this because if no-one in Russia has spoken publicly, or published material promoting so-called holocaust denial (goodness sake, you’re not even allowed to question ANY aspect of it in the West), then there was no-one to prosecute 😀

    So a lack of prosecutions is only meaningful if there are writers and speakers in Russia who go around questioning/denying the holocaust narrative 😀

    I’ll research that too. If a Zio tries to go around me, I don’t let ’em.

  22. Truth tellers keep telling the truth. It doesn’t matter which package of lies you pick, whether the Holohoax, the War of Terror, the false flags without number, or as one commentator put it, our prospective ” Vagina in Thief.” This takes my mind back to the beginning when the liars were consolidating their power.

    It was the early Seventies and I was still young. I had the unfortunate experience of attending EST. It was a group experience in programming put on by nihilists. The “it” that you were suppose to get from this “seminar” turned out to be “nihilism” as I was to find out much later with the arrival of the digital age. Naturally I did not get “it” because I was raised in a devoutly religious family where something like nihilism was beyond my comprehension. So instead I had a kind of psychotic break while everyone else who got “it” was having a big party. I walked outside into the crowded streets of downtown Los Angeles and I had a vision of the world as a giant orange where the concrete reality we experience was like the skin and beneath it was the another reality entirely responsive to thought. It seemed possible that if everyone were to grasp the truth at the same moment the world in an instant would be transformed. Now we live under the liars rule, their thought game is our concrete reality. The truth tellers are pushing under the surface of that power. One day they will peel off the tyranny like the skin of an orange. I understand nihilism better now; I see how it invariably leads to narcissism, the “me” generation. Despite self help and positive thinking, narcissism can never lead to self knowledge or actualization. I am convinced we can only be actualized in a loving relationship. We know ourselves not by what we keep to ourselves but what we give away. I can only conclude that the nihilists, and the liars will lose due to the veil of ignorance necessary to protect the lies. We will outsmart them with our passion for the truth.

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