105 thoughts on “Sorry Mom, I Was Wrong About The Holocaust (Video, 5.51 mins)

  1. How sad it is to feel ashamed of your heritage. However that said, the only people who should really feel ashamed of being who they are are the Jews. This is why I have always been against immigration simply because the culture that the indigenous will force upon them is not theirs, nor will it ever be and the culture they wish to live by is not those of the people’s of the land they choose to migrate too. The result of this is a timebomb waiting to explode, as the immigrant population grows. I think we should give Jews their own land and then wall them in. Don’t allow them out and keep strict surveillance on any nuclear activity, should they decide to let them loose upon their neighbours.

    It is the Germans, upon knowing more and more about WW2 whom I truly feel sorry for. A proud people, with a rich culture, a vibrant and honourable history, polite, honest, decent and my brethren on my mother’s side, her being English, whom I realised had been almost annihilated because of the Jews, who picked themselves up after the hell that existed after the Treaty of Versailles and wouldn’t allow themselves to be beaten, only to experience WW2 and the horrors during and after the loss. It’s these horrors that have been continuing ever since.

    I can’t say I have ever met a bad German. It is because of this that I first started questioning history and then the propaganda became apparent and the demonization of them, starting with the baby, eating Bosch of WW1 moving to the demons of WW2. My only regret, when the truth comes out is that those responsible for the hell that the Germans had to endure will be long dead, having lived luxurious lifestyles. It almost makes one want to exhume their bodies, just as Charles II did to Cromwell and the other regicides.

    1. Germans aren’t bad, Nazis are bad, there’s a difference, and your dribble is both frightening and idiotic. You’re a full on moron we should find a nice plot of land for YOU and wall you in.

    1. This poster is a perfect example of the Kabbalah twisted logic forcefed to the goyim:
      Knowledge happens before proof,
      therefore, there is no need for proof.

      It is precisely what Kenneth Ellman proposed here 10 days ago: current German government tearfully “acknowledges” guilt, therefore it happened, it passes for proof by Jew standards of justice.

      Moreover, the Jew movie poster brazenly asserts that the Whole World Knows.
      What does that mean? That there aren’t any people that don’t know, ie, the “deniers” aren’t part of the world, not human or, they do know but just want to be evil and cause poor, ever suffering Jewies further grief.
      And why would the jewess need to prove it if the whole world knows?
      Are there published stats from the surveys supporting the “whole world” statement?

      No, the new and emerging truth is the reason for this rearguard action movie: the (whole or not) world is waking up, coming to its senses.
      Jewess Wiesz will spend her dotage in hiding, like the satanically persecuted veterans of the Third Reich did.

      1. Yea….it is such a shame Whole World Doesn’t Know about this sort of sadistic behaviour.
        Let Them Drink Sand: Jews Cut-Off Water Supply to the West Bank…

    2. Yup,

      They need to further implant the lies of the past and get Jewess, Rachel Weisz to play the lead role. The holocaust must remain, or Israel won’t.

  2. It’s interesting when one looks at Jewish world population figures before and after WW2. As the link states, the population actually grew from 15,315,000 to 15,753,000 between 1933 and 1948. Recently I found an article from the New York Times, from nearly twenty years ago, about the International Red Cross stating they lied about their findings from German concentration camps. Not only did it take them 50 years, but they stated that they didn’t tell the truth because the Germans would have refused access otherwise. There’s only one flaw in this story; the International Red Cross (IRRC) released a factual appraisal of the holocaust in 1948 three years after the war had ended stating the total number of deaths in the camps was 272,000 inmates of which around half were Jews. Therefore they had no need to lie then as Germany had been soundly beaten and the camps liberated.

    This is, without a doubt, one of the biggest pieces of evidence out there. World, population almanacs do not lie. The IRRC is also a non partial, international, aid organisation as you know.

  3. Excellent video. The Jews have been very successful in stereotyping Germans as mindless, obedient drones of an evil Hitler. Yet, they are the first to screech anti-semitism, when their shortcomings are addressed. Let’s list some of their shortcomings; racism/tribalism, mendacity, selfishness, avarice, cruelty, narcissism, megalomania, deceit, ingratitude, sexual depravity (Sigmund Freud and his spawn are good examples), Mammonism and so on. Everything that has been imputed on the Germans for the last 70 years are Jewish traits. In particular, the genocidal trait.
    Read biographies of major German leaders by establishment historians and they are replete with “psycho-babble” analyses of the Germans.

  4. I was born in England in 1937 and grew up during WW2. Food was rationed, no candy, very little butter or meat, not great but not bad. We were lucky because Britain is an Island with 7,000 miles of coastline, so there was no shortage of fish, and chips. There was damage to cities from German bombs but the rail and road networks were intact. Compare this with Germany. By 1944 there was scarcely an intact road, railway or power transmission line in the country. People starved, as did those in the camps.

    Regarding the Holocaust, there are too many holes in the official story:- Why would the Nazis transport Jews all the way to Auschwitz in Poland to kill them? Why use irritant cyanide gas (Zyklon) when people crowded into an airtight room will soon die painlessly from lack of oxygen? Why were there 4.3 million survivors claiming compensation from Germany? why did the Red cross only give 272,000 as the total number of deaths in ALL the camps? The Red Cross had access to the camps. Wouldn’t they have known if Jews were being gassed? Why was there a hospital, a pharmacy, a theatre, an orchestra, a choir, a library and a swimming pool at Auschwitz, in a death camp? Why were there no signs on wartime aerial photographs of the trainloads of coke that would have been required to incinerate millions of bodies? Why weren’t thousands of tons of ashes and bones ever found? The piles of bodies show emaciation typical of starvation and disease; something that would not occur if people were being gassed on arrival. It was Typhus, dysentery and starvation that killed these people, because by 1944 allied bombing had destroyed the infrastructure of Germany. When there are so many inconsistencies in a scenario we SHOULD be skeptical.

    DOUBLE STANDARDS. The holocaust has been pounded into us for 70 years, but there is never a mention of the reign of terror conducted by the mainly Jewish Bolsheviks against the Russia people; 60 million dead (Solzhenitsyn).

    The German people lost the war, and the powerful Jews won it, using their influence to get gentile boys to die for them. What a terrible , terrible mistake our leaders made. Never again.

    Great, great video. There are millions of us now beginning to learn the truth of this gigantic lie/shakedown.

    1. Another point that many people are overlooking is the number of Jews that served in the military and the SS. If Hitler was exterminating Jews, for being Jews, do people really think Jews would still have been serving? There were over 150,000 Jews in Hitler’s forces, with many high ranking officers. Moreso, he honoured over 100,000 of them.

  5. Received in email, written by the renegade bishop of the Society of St Pius X rejecting the Novus Ordo docrine in whole and in parts.
    Richard The Lionheart Williamson names the J-culprit square on, fearlessly.
    I might as well quote the letter in its entirety, since it is timely and definitely not off-topic:

    “Anti-Semitism” Trickery

    Is “antisemite” wielded like a sword?
    Just ask the wielder to define the word.

    There are treacherous words which seem to mean one thing and are used to mean quite another. One of the most treacherous words of all is “anti-semitism.” The word seems to mean opposition to all Jews purely and simply because they are Jews, and in this sense it rightly condemns something bad, because some Jews are wicked, but certainly not all. On the other hand it is often used to condemn absolutely any opposition to anything that any Jews do, and then the word is wrongly condemning something good, because whenever Jews do anything bad then opposition to them is good. But do Jews do things bad? Obviously. They created Islam for Arabs, Freemasonry for Gentiles and Communism for the modern world, all three primarily to fight Jesus Christ and Christianity, and so send souls to Hell.

    A book which all Catholics should read who wish to defend the Church against Islam, Freemasonry and Communism, now Globalism, is The Plot Against the Church by Maurice Pinay. The book was written just before Vatican II to be put into the hands of all Council Fathers, to warn them of the great danger in which the Church would find herself at the Council. Sure enough. The Council Fathers ended up praising Islam (Unitatis Redintegratio), adopting Freemasonic principles (Dignitatis Humanae) and never mentioning, still less condemning, the evil system of Communism. Here is how in his Chapter on “Antisemitism and Christianity” Maurice Pinay analyses the treachery of the word “antisemitism”:—

    Down the ages the Jews have always used vague words with a variety of meanings, writes Pinay, to snare Gentile minds and so prevent them from defending themselves against the Jewish drive towards world domination in that 2,000-year war on Christianity which he carefully documents throughout his book. So in a first stage, by three arguments they seek to prevail upon Gentile leaders to condemn “antisemitism” in its first sense, given above, of opposition to everything and everybody Jewish: firstly, Christ, by establishing the equality of all men before God, condemned any such degrading of a whole race; secondly, Christ told all men to “love one another”; thirdly, Christ and his Mother were both Jewish.

    But in a second stage the Jews, having once obtained the Gentiles’ condemnation of a vague “antisemitism,” then proceed to give the word a quite different meaning, the second sense above, of any and all opposition to anything whatsoever that Jews do.
    Thus “antisemites” become: all patriots exerting their right of self-defence against Jewish subversion of their country;
    all defenders of the family against the errors and vices of all sorts fomented by the Jews to dissolve it (e.g. abortion, pornography);
    all Catholics defending their holy religion against every form of corruption being openly or secretly promoted by the Jews to undermine it;
    all truth-tellers unmasking Jews as the originators of Freemasonry and Communism (now of Globalism and feminism, etc.);
    and all people in general opposing Jewish subversion of the Church and of Christian civilisation.

    And by their control of politics, finance, films and above all by their media, the Jews have succeeded in giving such an electric charge to this one little word “anti-semite,” that it is enough to electrocute anyone that it touches.

    But who is foolish enough to have allowed them to control politics and finance? Who has allowed them to virtually monopolise the film industry and the media? Who thinks it is so smart to have done away with all censorship and is now co-operating with them to enable them to censor the Internet? Gentile liberals in every case, who are therefore being enslaved, by the minute, in their New World Order.
    Doctor, cure thyself!
    For who that reads their newpapers or watches their television programmes has anybody to blame but himself for letting them take over his mind, and his civilisation?

    Catholics, read The Plot against the Church.
    If anybody is accusing you of being an “antisemite,” it is quite possible you have reason to be proud.

    Kyrie eleison.

    he nails it (with the exception of anti-Islamism on principle, something that I have trouble with), no one has ever heard me dodging the supposedly defamatory adjective of anti-semite.
    Because in example of triple-speak, I wear the epithet with pride.

    There should be Antisemite Pride Day, celebrated worldwide,
    revulsion that dare not speak its name.

  6. Lobro,

    “with the exception of anti-Islamism on principle, something that I have trouble with”

    Have a look at the pictures here, here and here please. Now I know that you’ll be thinking that this is a Jewish psy op but really, what will happen, in the UK, should this element continue to grow? We are continually told that these people are not true Muslims, yet they quote the Qur’an and hadith and seem to be 100% positive that they are doing nothing more than following in the steps of Muhammad.

    Surely Lobro, the solution is a simple one – stop the population increase of Muslims in non Muslim lands by not only repatriating the majority back to their ancestral lands, but keeping their population at a minimum of no more than 2%, by imposing strict birth control figures.

    Lobro, the allowing of the migration of peoples from war torn countries, many whom the west is involved in, into our lands, is suicide. Surely you can see this? There is the feeling from the liberal left that they will eventually integrate over the generations, when I’m seeing the opposite. What if the population grows to such an extent that eventually they create Islamic parties, that implement Sharia and end common law, once the Muslims tribal vote? They will then be the majority after all? They will then be able to do whatever they want while in power won’t they?

    I know you are of Eastern European origin. I know that you are sympathetic towards Islam, but surely you can see that wherever Islam has grown in non Islamic lands, it’s eventually dominated them, unless that is, there’s been a fightback from the non Muslim population?

    P.S. Admin,

    I’m sorry for going slightly off topic, but it’s in relation to Lobro’s reply above and his continuing support for Islam that many of us here clearly see as a threat to the west and its way of life.

    1. Harb –

      Correct….

      I do “clearly see Islam as a threat to the west and its way of life.” Islam was established for that purpose.

      Lobro posted:
      “But do Jews do things bad? Obviously. They created Islam for Arabs, Freemasonry for Gentiles and Communism for the modern world, all three primarily to fight Jesus Christ and Christianity, and so send souls to Hell.”

      It does not matter if it is a psy-op of any origin…. the holders of the cards agree and are emboldened as well as the other gatherers.

      The gathering is not promoting love and peace. There are laws against incitement.

      1. Pat,

        It is simple. The more Islam grows in the west, it will seek to dominate over the indigenous culture and way of life. This will ultimately bring conflict and bloodshed, something that could all easily be avoided simply by border control and the non allowance of Muslims in the west to proselytize their faith upon the indigenous.

        Islam is a serious threat to the stability of the western way of life, already under serious attack from many other elements.

    2. Of course it a psy op. They are allowed to demonstrate with all those hate filled posters (Same Font, Same Style => One Creator) to get filmed for propaganda. They are breaking British law when they incite violence which is exactly what they are doing. They are useful to the establishment and they want them to grow. The more they are allowed to run amok without being stamped upon and arrested, the more attractive they become to the ever growing number of disillusioned youth, which is exactly what the establishment wants.

      These people with these signs need to be arrested and sentenced, but that would be applying the law.

      Now try and do a peaceful demonstration against war, and you will have provocateurs and police that will corral you in tunnels and scare the **** out of you. Something does not add up. They (Islamist) are treated with kid gloves while peace activists are treated as enemies.

    3. Harb –
      Not correct …

      ISLAM, LIKE CHRISTIANITY, WESTERN OR ORTHODOX, SHOULD BE INVIOLABLE WITHIN ITS OWN GEOGRAPHICAL AND SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT.
      This sums up my sentiment toward the subject and from now on I will just link to it in response to further strawmanship.
      You keep bringing in these imputations which you cannot reference, unless quoting TROJ, that I Lobro am advocating mass migration of Muslims into Western lands – and now you seem to have added an extra detail, that because of my Eastern European ancestry, I am sympathetic to Islam.
      Yet you are educated enough to know that it was at the Croatian border that the Turkish expansion was halted and it was Croats who paid the price and their resistance bought Austria time to organize resistance to the siege of Vienna, that the greatest massacre and genocide after the WW2 was of Bosnian Muslims by Orthodox Serbs (now this is a real Holocaust that has tons of physical evidence, including almost daily discoveries of mass graves of upwards of 30 people in various woods, mountain caves, mineshafts and so on), that moreover, part of my heritage is Armenian and Armenians do love Muslims, don’t they?
      I am a Catholic born and despite all my bitching about its wayward turns in my lifetime, I will be given Catholic rites at farewell.
      So, let’s keep it civil and stick to the known facts.

      All I did say is that I traveled rather extensively in non wahhabi lands of Islam and found their populace wonderfully decent, human and warm, quite unlike the deep freeze of plasticine West where I grew up and spent most of my life.
      That statement you are free to dispute but don’t extrapolate beyond it.

      All you end up causing is strife that makes Jew ecstatic, the same Jew that created the dominant streams of Jew-serving Calvinism, the same Protestant retards that hang out of Apache cargo holds machine gunning “lower” non-Jews, your gooks and muzzies and then they come home bragging about how many raghead muds they wiped out when not whining about the influx of insanely embittered migrants that Jew is herding your way.
      And jew is laughing but for some reason you can’t hear him, the Kalergis, Spectres and all the rest, like staring crosseyed at the finger pointing at the moon.
      Find your focus, Harb, Pat, TROJ and the rest.
      I got mine and it is steady.

      If the neighbor’s dog Killer shits in TROJ’s garden and rips up the flowerbed with the owner laughing, who do you blame – the turd or the dog or the owner? Just tell me that and then try to work backward from there to your accusation.
      What do you do yell at the turd, maybe shoot it?
      do a little mental regroup and let’s move on, this is silly.

      1. Lobro –

        “Find your focus, Harb, Pat, TROJ and the rest.”

        Thanks for the hint…. the demand…

        I found my focus in 1953.

        It is the same as your referenced quote:

        “But do Jews do things bad? Obviously. They created Islam for Arabs, Freemasonry for Gentiles and Communism for the modern world, all three primarily to fight Jesus Christ and Christianity, and so send souls to Hell.”

        Now, Lobro…. YOU find YOUR focus…. sans rambling and waffling.. 🙂

      2. Pat

        Now, Lobro…. YOU find YOUR focus…. sans rambling and waffling.

        When you drive up and down your Ozarks, do you just select the point B and head straight for it, regardless of the road twists, turns, switchbacks and what have you?
        When in your submarine prowling around South China sea, do you do it in a straight line, irrespective of the seabed contours, coral reefs and rock outcroppings?

        because if you don’t, you are rambling and waffling.

        You see, actually you don’t, maybe some others might, that I am not a follower, not of bishop Williamson, not of Putin or Hitler, not even Jesus Christ, based on their fame alone but only acknowledge what makes sense and sounds true to me.
        I am a Navigator, even if it is a tiny canoe, it is mine alone and I don’t accept anyone else’s directions without my independent verification.
        No one is invited aboard nor rejected, so long as they don’t try to go for control.

        I will give due respect – wherever it is due – and that is not waffling, but in the end, I chart my own course.
        That’s the way I like it and that’s the way it will continue in future.

        So when I pay respect to bishop Williamson, that doesn’t mean I signed up to be a sheep in his flock, when he is right, he is right and when not, he ain’t, simple as that.
        I never told you that you are waffling when you don’t follow Eustace Mullins to the letter, did I?

        Read the rest of my criticism of Harbinger’s criticism of me and deal with the subject matter not some imaginary protocol.

      3. Lobro –

        I also chart my own course… with or without your demands…. and have for decades before you knew the Pharisee-Jew Bankers’ problems.

        My course is the same as your referenced quote:

        “But do Jews do things bad? Obviously. They created Islam for Arabs, Freemasonry for Gentiles and Communism for the modern world, all three primarily to fight Jesus Christ and Christianity, and so send souls to Hell.”

        Now, Lobro…. YOU stay on YOUR course. Stop being “silly..”

        Remember… you gave me orders to “focus”….. even after I repeated YOUR quote with full credit to you.

        Canoes… submarines… Ozarks… etc… are not the focus……
        ………………… You are STILL rambling. 🙂

        You made a demand upon me to focus. I demand you focus on this and stay the “course”:

        “But do Jews do things bad? Obviously. They created Islam for Arabs, Freemasonry for Gentiles and Communism for the modern world, all three primarily to fight Jesus Christ and Christianity, and so send souls to Hell.”

      4. I demand you focus on this and stay the “course”:

        “But do Jews do things bad? Obviously. They created Islam for Arabs, Freemasonry for Gentiles and Communism for the modern world, all three primarily to fight Jesus Christ and Christianity, and so send souls to Hell.”

        This is not merely circular but going around for at least the third time, i am ready to drop out.
        When I demanded focus from you and others who get confused by who the enemy is, all i am saying is this:
        JEW IS THE ENEMY and the cause of disease, everything else is just a symptom, ISIS, wahhabis, Ziochristians and Pussy Riot.
        In fact, ISIS (Israeli Secret Intelligence Service – which you mistake for Islam) is nothing but a Ziochristianity sequel, if the original was a blockbuster, the Jew Hollywood magnate is thinking, why not a sequel, called ISIS, the Zioislam, its mirror image.
        here is where i demand focus, that you see this clearly.

        As for me being obliged to buy everything bishop Williamson says, my response is, no way.
        If I go to a restaurant and see something on the menu that I like, must I eat every single item?
        So, for me, it is

        “But do Jews do things bad? Obviously. They created … Freemasonry for Gentiles and Communism for the modern world, all three primarily to fight Jesus Christ and Christianity, and so send souls to Hell.”

        Islam for Arabs? Strike that off the list, I have a problem with this statement as I said in my top post.

        Besides, i am quite unaware of a single white person killing a single Jew outside Stalin’s Soviet Union in the last hundred years (German military government may have executed a few communist agitators, terrorists and criminals, some of whom happened to be Jews but that doesn’t count since Jews weren’t targeted on their ethnicity).

        Hezbollah killed quite a few.

        Recognizing this takes focus 😉

      5. Lobro,

        You never replied to my main point – the three images I linked to showing Islamism in London.

        “You keep bringing in these imputations which you cannot reference, unless quoting TROJ, that I Lobro am advocating mass migration of Muslims into Western lands”

        The point is Lobro, you don’t criticize it. Any dialogue on the invasion of Muslims into the west is instantly met with “we shouldn’t be invading their lands” or along the same grounds. Yes, that’s common sense, but never once have I seen you criticize Islam or Muslims in their bad behaviour – Cologne article was a classic example, with you believing it was one big Jew psy-op.

        And yes, I know ALL ABOUT the Gates of Vienna. And? Your point?

        Your support of Islam, however admirable it may be does not address the problem, I have shown in my above post to the Anjem Choudarys that are springing up all over the UK and the West, promoting the Islamization of the west.

        You state you have “I traveled rather extensively in non wahhabi lands of Islam and found their populace wonderfully decent, human and warm, quite unlike the deep freeze of plasticine West where I grew up and spent most of my life.” I am very happy for you, but have you tried London UK, where there’s a growing number of Islamists seeking to impose Sharia Law and dominate the land of the Celts, Angles, Saxons and Vikings for Muhammad? You haven’t. You have seen the soft, cuddly Islam, that is the Christian Islam, so to speak whose advocates seem to forget that their prophet was a warlord who murdered many in his quest to enforce his religion upon the world.

        And then you, as usual, promote the ‘divide and conquer’ strategy, implying that I’m doing nothing but that in my criticism of Islam.

        Lobro, let’s not beat about the Bush here please. As much as I dislike Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch’s love of Israel and promotion of a Judeo Christian western culture itself being a complete oxymoron, his knowledge on the Qur’an and hadith utterly destroys the preaching of your peaceful Imams, whom he gets into dialogue with. He quotes the Qur’an. He lets people know very well what Islam is all about. The Religion of Peace as we know it, will only achieve peace once the world is Islam.

        I lived on the front line of Islamic aggression in the East end of London between 1999 and 2007. I walked down streets in London, being confronted by shawl wearing, devout Muslim zealots, who were effectively promoters of Wahabism, telling me how I and my friends should conduct ourselves, in our lands, that they were alien too.
        As the reformation of Christianity, that realised Christians were straying from the path of the teachings of Christ, which were peaceful, Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab in the 18th century reformed Islam and brought it back to the original teachings of Muhammad. And voila, today we have radical Islam or should I say, Islam in its truest form.

        In a nutshell Lobro, those radical Muslims out there, preaching Jihad, death to the non believers and the creation of the ummah, are doing nothing but promoting the TRUE TEACHINGS of Islam. Therefore, I’m incredibly sorry to state that those cuddly, Muslims you met in life, who were promoting a golden rule existence, were by no means promoting the true teachings of Muhammad.

        As I stated, we are gambling here with the growth of Islam. It leaves us with a dilemma:

        1. We allow Islam to grow and then by becoming a majority change the non Islamic lands into Islamic ones
        or.
        2. We remove the overwhelming majority and do not give them any voice of authority or change with lands, whose people and culture are not their nor theirs to change.

      6. Harb,
        Just because i don’t parrot your litany of woe doesn’t mean that I disagree with it.

        (…) those cuddly, Muslims you met in life, who were promoting a golden rule existence, were by no means promoting the true teachings of Muhammad.

        Umm … not as cuddly as you may think, against all odds, they survived 4 years of unbelievably brutal assault by a modern army and siege, the daily abominations against women and children, unspeakable tortures, starvation, mass murders – while practically unarmed, until the almost very end.
        In the beginning, the invaders and the foreign (Jew) press thought it would be over in a matter of days before the totally disorganized society collapsed.
        Not cuddly at all, every bit as tough as Hezbollah but not making a big deal about it – It was WAR, Lobro, real war, not cool Apocalypse Now images, they would say. And they don’t like to talk about it, be reminded of it and its horrors, otherwise they’d all need psychiatric help and heavy sedation.
        There are what, 1.5 million of them and they’ve been here for over 500 years, so they are not a bunch of Disneyland smurfs and Sesame Street characters – they got heavy roots, which is why they couldn’t be uprooted so easily.
        And they all mutter that there will be another war, to clear the air but then they go on with daily struggles.
        Fine people, believe me, better in many ways than my own bunch.

        As for Robert Spencer’s take on Qu’ran, I didn’t read it nor will, time short.
        Especially when he tells me one thing about Qu’ran and Lasha tells me another, guess who do i believe, Pamela Geller’s boyfriend?
        Don’t forget, Breivik was brainwashed over there and I don’t idolize Breivik either.

        Kick every single Muslim out of UK, what do I care?
        I might even cheer it on.
        But then what?
        Based on past record, your compatriots will retire back to the pub to share a pint with Jew.
        While Jew unwinds another horror upon you, even worse, and another and another as ever he did since Cromwell ushered the snakes back into the country, these snakes were resistant to St Patrick’s exorcism.
        This is where my “Focus” harangue comes in, the one that so upset St. Pat.

        And if you think in terms of the body count, the various under-the-radar machinations like the chemtrails, Big Pharma, heavily biochemically adulterated GM food, sterile crops and so forth are responsible for many hundreds of thousands of deaths ANNUALLY, maybe millions and like I said: the radar only picks out a bunch of turbans and head rags, yarmulkes get a free pass.

        Harb, you don’t have to trust what I am saying but pull out the numbers, do your own math, I would actually prefer that.

      7. Lobro,

        My cuddly reference was to the kumbaya belief you have of Islam. Those peoples you lived with (Palestinians?) are not living Islam, but a much watered down, version of it, more attuned to Christianity.

        “As for Robert Spencer’s take on Qu’ran, I didn’t read it nor will, time short.
        Especially when he tells me one thing about Qu’ran and Lasha tells me another, guess who do i believe, Pamela Geller’s boyfriend?”

        Well, as much as I have respect for Lasha, Robert Spencer is clearly far more knowledgeable on the Qur’an, hadith and the Schools of Jurisprudence within Islam. Just as we all here have dissected the holocaust, he has the Qur’an and when one looks at the passages contained within it one sees it for what it is. He has single handedly demolished Imams on debates about the Qur’an and Muhammad. Remember, these Imams are supposed to be the teachers of it. They are simply left in the wash, when he educates them on the violence and hatred within it. Don’t get me wrong, there is also love, but the bottom line is that I realised after reading it, that the fundamental, underling factor of Islam is that the we shall have peace when the world is Islam. This is a very dangerous concept Lobro.

        This is not about kicking out every Muslim. This is about establishing a code of respect, so that the current crop of Muslim youth growing up in the UK realise that this land IS NOT for removing its common law, ending its food and drink culture and liberties and being another land for Muslims to impose their doctrines upon people who do not wish it so.

        And yes Lobro, I know it’s the Jews, but I’ve continually stated times and times again; IT IS NOT THE JEWS WHO ARE HAVING MASS RALLIES IN THE UK CALLING FOR THE ISLAMISATION OF IT!!!!!
        People are seeing the growth of Islam. They are getting scared. This in turn will breed extremism to counteract it. This will lead to bloodshed.
        Now one step at a time. Deal with that which is a problem all can see. Until people are educated on the problem of Judaism, Freemasonry, Mystery Babylon, the rebuilding of Babel and the totalitarian world state, it is futile trying to do something about them when it will simply go over the heads of the profane.

        And it’s most certainly that I don’t trust what you’re saying, but you seem to just nonchalantly cast aside a serious threat to the well being of Europe and the rest of the west if the unfettered growth of Islam, in you continuing desire to destroy Jewish power. I respect that, truly I do, but at this current rate, there will be no west to destroy Jewish power and we will simply have swapped esoteric Jewish authoritarianism for exoteric Islamic authoritarianism. The result is a complete loss of our liberty and freedoms – AS IS PLANNED!

      8. Lobro –

        You demanded focus… so do I, then.

        I demand YOU “focus”… “on course”… YOUR reference:

        “But do Jews do things bad? Obviously. They created Islam for Arabs, Freemasonry for Gentiles and Communism for the modern world, all three primarily to fight Jesus Christ and Christianity, and so send souls to Hell.”

        No picking and choosing …waffling.. 🙂

        No Stalin references… As YOU do… I demand it… 🙂

    4. @ Harbinger

      I’m sorry for going slightly off topic, but it’s in relation to Lobro’s reply above and his continuing support for Islam that many of us here clearly see as a threat to the west and its way of life.

      Lobro has had the advantage of actually living among Muslims and seeing for himself that Muslims are not all a bunch of villains. We have had Muslim writers of exemplary virtue writing articles for his website: for example, Rehmat and Mahmoud El-Yousseph, a passionate advocate for the Palestinian cause.

      I myself have been falsely accused of Islamophobia for giving wide coverage on this website to the migrant crisis in Europe and discussing the “rape jihad” at great length. The important thing is to distinguish sharply between Islam itself with its vast numbers of devout and sincere adherents — people by no means given to mindless violence — and the criminal types associated with ISIS who are now doing their best to give Islam a bad name.

      The Muslims you hate are a minority. Not every Muslim is going around chopping off heads and raping white women! Only a small and disgraceful minority are. You are conflating two different types of Muslim together, the bad and the good, and are concluding erroneously that ALL ARE BAD.

      Clearly, ALL Muslims are not bad — though I agree with you absolutely that we can’t have the entire Muslim population of the world invading the West and taking over our White countries. I agree with your very reasonable and important viewpoint that Muslim immigration should be restricted sharply to no more than 2% of the host population. In other words, Muslims are no problem provided their numbers are strictly controlled.

      BTW, I have read the Quran several times and never been corrupted by it. It contains a few “unacceptable” bits, true, but the Old Testament is far worse. As for the “hadiths” you mention, various sayings of Mohammed which you rightly find very objectionable, you appear to be unaware that these sayings are NOT widely accepted as Mohammed’s own words. They were made up by various Muslim fanatics and falsely attributed to Mohammed.

      As for Muslims in the Middle East throwing homosexuals off tall buildings, this is not being done by any of the good Muslims I personally know. Or that Lobro knows. These are homophobic crimes carried out by ISIS fanatics who are Muslim only in name. Nowhere in the Quran is there anything that says homosexuals should be treated with violence and cruelty.

      Read this below carefully. It comes from a recent article written by a British scholar of Islam: John R Bradley, author of “Behind the Veil of Vice: The Business and Culture of Sex in the Middle East”:

      For more than a millennium after the birth of Islam, the relevant Koranic verses were sensibly interpreted by leading Islamic scholars as meaning that homosexuals should be left alone – so long as they did not behave in a way that would disturb the public order.

      Remarkably, from the ninth century until the 21st, almost all love poetry written in Arabic was addressed to beautiful male youths.

      And in stark contrast to Christian Europe during the same period, where homosexuals were hanged and burned at the stake even well into the 19th century, there is only one example of homosexuals in the Middle East being executed.

      Indeed, the easy-going attitude survived for much of the last century. Western gays flocked to countries like Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt precisely because, unlike at home, homosexuality was tolerated.

      So how can Islamic State, and so many internationally recognised Islamic countries, now justify the persecution, imprisonment and execution of homosexuals according to sharia law?

      Of course, Islamic State itself has shamelessly ignored the teachings of the Koran when it comes to this subject – as it does to justify the actions of its death cult generally – and instead exploits the infamous ‘hadiths’ or ‘sayings’ of the Prophet Mohammed to justify the carnage.

      But these ‘sayings’ have been shown to have been largely invented by Muslim rulers over the years.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3640081/JOHN-R-BRADLEY-Orlando-massacre-brings-tragic-focus-murderous-hatred-jihadis-homosexuals.html

      1. As for Muslims in the Middle East throwing homosexuals off tall buildings, this is not being done by any of the good Muslims I personally know. Or that Lobro knows.

        One of my friends here is a quiet, chubby guy with dry sense of humor, unmarried, lives with dentist father, both migrants from Mostar a town to the south, in Herzegovina.
        I didn’t even know that he is a Muslim because he doesn’t have a Muslim name.
        During the 1991-1995 war, he was shipped off as a teenager to Sweden from where he returned with good education.
        One day, his school friend, M, also a Muslim, asked me did I know about F’s history?
        His mother was a physician in a Mostar hospital catering mostly to Croat (Catholic) patients.
        One day during the war, a gang of rowdy Croatian paramilitaries broke into her apartment and demanded cash, which she couldn’t produce in satisfactory quantity.
        So they threw her off the window ledge to her death on the pavement 6 stories below.
        I was speechless with revulsion and asked M how did F cope with it.

        He goes, “Aw, you don’t know how it is in a war between neighbors, Lobro, people lose someone close and go crazy, commit the most horrendous atrocities, F has come to terms with this reality and holds nothing against the Catholics, you have nothing to worry about”.

        Another lesson for those with eyes to see and ears to hear, not to mention brain to think with.

        And that’s how it is here in SJJ (80% Muslim, 10% Catholic, 5% Orthodox and 5% Roma Gypsies), if you came here and started spouting that TROJean nonsense, they would just roll their eyes and call for the men in white lab coats and holding straps.
        There are Catholic cathedrals, Serb churches, even couple of synagogues, cemeteries aplenty and never any sign of defacement or any kind of vandalism and they, more than anyone have a good reason for all kinds of vandalism.
        While the West spouts “humanitarian” masonic dogma, the humans live here.

      2. Lasha,

        “Lobro has had the advantage of actually living among Muslims and seeing for himself that Muslims are not all a bunch of villains.”

        And I haven’t?
        Has Lobro lived in London where Muslims, in their Sharia patrols, stopped him from walking down the road with a beer in his hand and telling his female companion that she had to cover herself up? Has he? I highly doubt it. Do you?

        Has Lobro been attacked by a gang of Muslims, for being in a Muslim neighbourhood, in a non Islamic land, but one where they are rapidly becoming the majority, having just elected a Muslim mayor, with links to radical Islam? I highly doubt it as well. Don’t you?

        You continue to use ridiculous words regarding this topic such as – Islamaphobia. Might I remind you that a phobia is an irrational fear one has no control over? A reaction that happens out of the blue, such as anxiety leading into a full blown panic attack because of something that you haven’t a clue has just happened? On the contary, no one and I mean NO ONE can have any irrational fears of Islam, courtesy of history which showed its barbarism and rampant desire for Islamisation of non Islamic lands and enslavement of those, whose lands they conquered giving the choice of conversion to Islam or death?

        And then you use the word homophobia. How on earth can someone have an irrational fear of people who commit sexual acts upon one another that are contrary to the very existence of humanity? Do people walk down the road, as above, fainting, or having rapid heartbeat, followed by a horrendous fear, because they see two men or women kissing? Of course they don’t. There is no such thing as being phobic to homosexuality, just as there is no such thing as being phobic to Islam. It is a conscious choice one makes to either agree with homosexuality and Islam and accept it or not. You do understand that don’t you?

        “The Muslims you hate are a minority…..”

        When have I ever stated that I hate Islam or Muslims? I criticise Islam simply because of what I know of it and have experienced first hand.

        “BTW, I have read the Quran several times and never been corrupted by it. It contains a few “unacceptable” bits, true, but the Old Testament is far worse. As for the “hadiths” you mention, various sayings of Mohammed which you rightly find very objectionable, you appear to be unaware that these sayings are NOT widely accepted as Mohammed’s own words.”

        Yes the old testament is far worse but are you a Christian or a Jew? I always thought that the Christians followed the peaceful teachings of Christ.

        Islam is a dangerous, intolerant ideology that became as it is through invasion of lands, mass bloodshed and imposing its way of life on millions who never wanted it. The constant conflict between not just Christians, the world over and Islam, but Hindus, Sikhs and other religions is testament to the serious threat this religion puts upon the tolerance of freedom loving peoples. Ironically it is the radicals, whom we are told of in Islam, who are following the true teachings of Islam. They have not perverted Muhammad’s words in the slightest. It is the peaceful Muslims, who are living more under the beliefs of Christ that Muhammad. Tell me, how many people did Christ slay and many did Muhammad? Once you murder another man you cannot talk of or try to promote peace for in doing so you would be a hypocrite and Muhammad slayed many in his time as the prophet of Allah. Was Christ ever violent to another man? Did he not surrender willingly in the garden of Gesthemane? You simply cannot have any ideology whose roots are intolerance, anywhere near an ideology who roots are peaceful. You are asking for disaster and voila – mass immigration into the west from Muslims is doing just that.

        I stated that I do not hate hornets, but that said, I don’t want a nest on my front porch. This is exactly how I believe about Islam. I don’t want Muslims, growing to such an extent that they will seek autonomy in the lands of my fathers and impose their will upon those who do not wish it.
        You are either for Islam in the west or you are not. I am not, just as I am not for Judaic control and proxy wars in the middle east.
        I do not wish to see the end of Islam but Muslims need to start respecting other peoples and their cultures and stop moving to lands whose values are contrary to their own, seeking to change, over time that which is not theirs to change, so they can institute a religion that very few non Muslims want anywhere near their lands.

      3. LD

        It’s not the intention behind the writing of the Quran that corrupts. The corruption comes from its lying interpreters and those who believe the lying interpretations

      4. “peaceful teachings” should not be the focus of Jesus’ presence here, Harbinger.

        Few understand this, but that’s what I’m here for

      5. Brownhawk,

        Once you kill another and order people to be killed, as Muhammad did, you cannot claim to be a believer in peace and non violence, on the contrary, quite the opposite. From its beginnings, Islam was destined to be a violent faith, purely for the actions of its prophet.

        There are most certainly peaceful Muslims, who do not commit violence, but it’s laughable to say the least when they say that their prophet did not promote this. You will always be remembered in life, more for your actions than by your words. There was no peace within Muhammad. He was a very violent man, the complete opposite to the Christ. If Muslims are upset by this then they need to stop living in delusion and accept the truth. They do not have to follow Muhammad through a life of violence but cannot condemn others who do, especially when they are doing nothing different to what their prophet did. Muslims who want to be peaceful, need to start condemning the actions of Muhammad, but in doing so, will condemn their very faith. It’s quite a dilemma unfortunately.

    5. Now if that was the National Front (BNP) in your feeds …..just imagine the consequences.

    6. Essentially, you have imbibed, unfiltered, all the judeoexcrement that has been pounded into you via the judeomedia. Everything you see, read, hear, think or say is some content of cockroach rear. The fact of the matter is that cockroach owned Eurosavages have done far worse to the African continent, Indian subcontinent, etc, that Muslims will ever be able to do in Europe. Europe is a Judeocracy at its best. From time immemorial, Templars and other Kabbalistic creeps have ruled Europe. European Law is Talmudic Law.

      The Track Of The Jew Through The Ages – Alfred Rosenberg

      Lobro does not support Islam. He is just rational thinker, his vision is not blurred by the cockroach excrement that blinds you.

      The first savage in the Indian Ocean was a creature by the name of Vasco da Gama. You can read its history in Jewikipedia. It was or Europortuguese origin, financed by Sephardic cockroaches.

      For 500 years, eurosavages have been pillaging, plundering the resources of Africa, India, Latin America while barbarously murdering the locals. Ask the Australian aborigine.

      Yet most decent human beings that inhabit the lands of Europe and America are struggling to make ends meet. Most struggle to make it from paycheck to paycheck. Their rights have been stolen. How many pages is the patriot act? Who authored it and why? Why does Lasha have to hide her identity?

      The answers to all these questions have nothing to do with Islam.

      JEWsury was legalized in “England” before the bank of “England” came into existence, in 1694. In 1698 England became Jewland, aka, bankrupt. The Federal Reserve came into existence in 1909. In 1933 the United States became the JewKnighted-States of bankruptcy.

      In the 19th century, the “government” of Jewland and the JewKnighted States set up Israel.

      Now go read some Robert Spencer and Pamella Gellar. And watch some Larry Flint porn while you are at it. It will make you more utterly brilliant than the vessel of cockroach excrement that you embody.

      Freedom of oral expression does not equate to license of oral excretion. Please learn to think before you write. However the strain of edjewcation that has been used to flush your brains might make that beyond impossible. And you paid a hellofalot of taxes to the Rothschilds and queens to be forcefed the toxic drivel you spout. So please keep it to yourself.

      Even better, you can change your name to Schlomo Goldstein and Rothschilds will buy you a mansion in Israel where you can enjoy your pathetic nihilistic pornographic jewestern “lifestyle” while murdering the locals. Let them drink sand while you trade your stocks and make a million pounds a day.

      1. @ Eddie

        A very angry post.

        Unfortunately, we don’t know who you are speaking to. 🙂

      2. Eddie,

        You know absolutely nothing and I mean nothing whatsoever about me in this post of utter vitriol. You haven’t addressed any facts I’ve stated in my post, just gone off on a tangent, implying I’m a drone of the Jewish msm, even though I haven’t watched it for over ten years.

        You as an American have absolutely no idea what’s happening in Europe, as we are being invaded by immigrants, none of us have asked for. You are living in a multicultural and multiracial society. It is the very definition of your land, therefore you have no idea about the desire of indigenous peoples and their nations to remain so.

        I asked Lobro to comment on the images of Muslims wishing to Islamize the UK, wishing to install Sharia Law and cut people’s heads off, destroying the very laws and cultures that have turned the UK into a bastion of tolerance, unlike the dystopia these morons want to turn it into. And what have you had to say on that? You probably think that these people are part of a Jewish psy-op don’t you?

        My reference to Robert Spencer is that he is a leading scholar on Islamic jurisprudence. It has nothing whatsoever to do with whether I like or dislike him as that is irrelevant. What it does have to do with is his knowledge on the Qur’an and the hadith, of which he is well learned. He has openly debated Islam with Imams and other Islamic scholars and defeated each and every one of them with ease, simply because he quotes the Qur’an and hadith. They cannot defend it. He to Islam, using the Qur’an and hadith is what Michael Hoffman is to Judaism, using the Babylonian Talmud.

        Now, idiot, let me school you on something here shall I? The reformation of the Christianity in the west was going back to its roots because it has strayed off its path, into one of corruption. The reformation of Islam, like Christianity by Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab was going back to its original teachings of Muhammad. Now while there are many peaceful and non violent Muslims in this world, what there is however is a religion that is polar opposite in its foundations to that of Christianity. Christianity was founded on peace and love. Islam was founded on violence and hatred. Muhammad, upon not being able to convert people as Christ had, acquired an army and the rest is history. He imposed a strict, religious, way of life upon people and through the years, these practices have gone astray. It is these practices whom the ISLAMISTS, wish to bring back into being. So essentially, the true followers of Islam and of Muhammad are the Islamists. Now of course, the peaceful Muslims out there do not wish to live by the strict policies of Islam, but they are at a dilemma because they know that the radicals are right in their practices. They know that when push comes to shove, they will have to either accept the original teachings of Muhammad and push for the world ummah, or they will have to become apostates and convert to another faith.

        What you fail to see about my reply to Lobro, is that I am discussing the status quo. I am pointing out that we have a growing, angry, aggressive, alien people promoting their religious zealotry within my land. These people, fueled by hatred of westerners, courtesy of Jew created wars in the middle east, are not being challenged by any peaceful loving Muslims in their midst. No Imams are challenging their ‘extremism’ simply because they know that they are teaching original Islam, of which they know, they too should be living by.
        You have failed to realise that I am addressing a problem that is growing here in the UK and across Europe. You have done nothing less than to imply I am some Zionist/Jew shill, full of ignorance. Whether you wish to accept it or not, non indigenous immigrants are piling into Europe and the purpose of the Jews and other globalists, through them is to destroy it, bringing it down to the same level as the third world. The resultant growth of Islamism is directly due to the growth of Muslims in non Islamic lands and western aggression in Islamic lands, I have no part in whatsoever.

        Now I don’t know if you’ve been living under a rock for the last ten years or so and frankly I couldn’t care less, but if you wish to attack me in debate, at least address the points made in my argument, instead of castigating me for something I haven’t written.

        I have never said this to anyone on Darkmoon, but you have to be one of the biggest morons I’ve had the displeasure of addressing.

      3. @ Harbinger

        TO EDDIE: “I have never said this to anyone on Darkmoon, but you have to be one of the biggest morons I’ve had the displeasure of addressing.”

        Strong words, Harbinger. But a trifle over the top, don’t you think?

        Stand back a bit and view yourself for a moment as others probably view you: as an islamophobic extremist. (I use the suffix “phobia” in the secondary sense, not as someone who “fears” Islam but as one who HATES it and has no time for Muslims.)

        You are allowing your unpleasant experiences of Muslims in the UK to warp your opinions of Islam in general. Lobro lives in Bosnia where he tells us he is surrounded by Muslims who make up 80% of the population. These Muslims, he tells us, are okay guys. They smile, they are charming, they are generous. So why should he agree with you that Islam is a horrible religion when it hasn’t made all these Muslims around him horrible?

        I happen to agree with you that the Muslim community in the UK has not done very well to make itself popular. Witness the child grooming in Rotherham and elsewhere. But the Muslims in Bosnia are okay as far as Lobro is concerned.

        You say Robert Spenser has shown how horrible Mohammed was by citing various sayings of Mohammed known as “hadiths.” Pray tell me why you have chosen to totally ignore the quote given by LD in which a top Islamic scholar, a Westerner, says that the “hadith” tradition is unreliable and that many of the quotes given here are totally bogus?

        You prefer to believe in bogus quotes, do you?

        Here is the quote:

        Of course, Islamic State itself has shamelessly ignored the teachings of the Koran when it comes to this subject – as it does to justify the actions of its death cult generally – and instead exploits the infamous ‘hadiths’ or ‘sayings’ of the Prophet Mohammed to justify the carnage.

        But these ‘sayings’ have been shown to have been largely invented by Muslim rulers over the years.

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3640081/JOHN-R-BRADLEY-Orlando-massacre-brings-tragic-focus-murderous-hatred-jihadis-homosexuals.html

        Robert Spenser is not to be trusted — since he relies on UNRELIABLE QUOTES whose authenticity is in doubt.

      4. Lolicia, may I call you Lol? (LOL)

        My honest advice to you is not to get involved in a slanging match or fisticuffs with the fearsome Harbinger, a Scotsman who has terrorized the North of England and the Lowlands of Scotland for the last 40 years and struck terror into the hearts of countless Brits.

        This guy goes into pubs and starts arguments with happy beer drinkers and then beats them up with his bare hands if they dare to contradict a single word he says! He wears a proud kilt and sporran and will bash you on the head with his bagpipes if you get too close to him. So watch out!

        He has already slaughtered, singlehandedly, a nice Scottish lady on this site who lives in Norway, an entity who went by the name of “Ingrid.” Many a time he has tried to silence me, too, with his abominable calumnies and appalling aspersions! So far, thanks to my wit and ingenuity, I have survived.

        I verily believe this formidable ogre, Harbinger, is all set to win next year’s Nobel Prize for Misogyny.

      5. Lolicia,

        Firstly, you think my reply was more over the top compared to his post full of vitriol and hate?

        Secondly in my reply to Lasha I stated the following:

        “You continue to use ridiculous words regarding this topic such as – Islamaphobia. Might I remind you that a phobia is an irrational fear one has no control over? A reaction that happens out of the blue, such as anxiety leading into a full blown panic attack because of something that you haven’t a clue has just happened? On the contary, no one and I mean NO ONE can have any irrational fears of Islam, courtesy of history which showed its barbarism and rampant desire for Islamisation of non Islamic lands and enslavement of those, whose lands they conquered giving the choice of conversion to Islam or death?”

        It continues to amaze me when liberals promote their nonsense, as you are now, when you are clearly oblivious to the situation that is happening here in the UK and other nations in the west. There is a a choice that the west is facing:

        1. We address the problems with the growth of Islam. We put a halt on its growth and repatriate large numbers back to their own lands.

        or

        2. We do nothing. The Islamic population grows to that of the majority in 50 years time. It elects a Muslim party, just as it has recently a mayor and then brings Sharia law in as the law of the land over common law.

        Now what guarantee do we have that Muslims will integrate into society and not choose point 2 Lolicia? Can you guarantee this?

        What you also fail to see and I’m completely amazed that others on here do to, is that the creation of Islam was THE POLAR OPPOSITE to that of Christianity. Let me see, can you answer the following questions for me please on Islam?

        1. How many people did Christ kill compared to Muhammad?

        2. On point one, how then can you call Islam a peaceful religion when its foundations are in war, conquest and bloodshed?

        3. Is Sharia Law, like common law in that it would give all equality under it, regardless of religion, non religion and sex?

        From having been on Darkmoon for a while, I do not put Lasha on the same level of Islamic knowledge as Robert Spencer. What I see with Lasha is a Devil’s advocate between Islam and Christianity. When one states “But these ‘sayings’ have been shown to have been largely invented by Muslim rulers over the years” it is irrelevant in the overall picture. Why?
        If Muhammad could not convert people peacefully to his religion as Christ did before; If he had to amass an army and wage a war to convert people to his religion, then it proves the very actions of radical Muslims, as doing that which their prophet did.

        You call me an Islamaphobic extremist, yet what do I do that is extreme?
        Do I hunt down and attack Muslims? Nope
        Do I speak ill of Muslims? Nope
        Do I call all Muslims radical Islamists? Nope?
        Do I agree that there are many non violent and peaceful Muslims? Yes
        Do I question Islam from the verses within the Qur’an, thereby seeing that it is most certainly a threat to Non Muslims around the world? Yes

        You see Lolicia, this is where people like you and your argument falls flat on its face. “But there are violent passages within the Bible” that there are, but I though Christians followed the peaceful teachings of the Christ? Unlike the New Testament in the Bible, Islam IS the Old Testament, in that there is no New Testament in Islam. Muslims follow Muhammad, a man who murdered, who captured nations, who gave people the choice of Islam or face the sword.
        The very ethos of Islam, as created by their most unique man, Muhammad, is violence and bloodshed. Therefore, when a Muslim says to me “It is wrong to kill” one can easily then say “So your prophet Muhammad was wrong then”? How many Muslims will condemn their prophet Lolicia? How many will agree that what he did, in the founding of Islam was wrong? So some more questions to you on Muhammad, comparing him to Christ:

        Did Muhammad:

        1. Claim to be the son of God or a man?
        2. kill and give the order that people be killed?
        3. fulfill any biblical prophecy?
        4. give his life so that others could be saved?
        5. sin?
        6. own slaves?

        So then Lolicia, I’m an Islamaphobic extremist then? Because of my revision of Islam, seeing where it came from and how it came about, through the teachings of their warlord ‘prophet’ that then makes everyone else on this website a Jewphobe extremist in their beliefs on the holocaust. I have revised a part of history to which you find ill favour with and have lambasted me as one who has an irrational fear of Islam, regardless that Islam has throughout history instilled RATIONAL fear upon millions.

        Let us understand one thing here that can never be refuted; Christianity through its very creation and teachings has been one of the love and compassion for its fellow man. On the contrary, through the very creation and teachings of Muhammad, their holy prophet (who deny that Christ is the son of God btw) Islam most certainly is not. You cannot kill and have others killed and then promote peace. It’s called hypocrisy and no moral highground can be taken.
        It is because of Muhammad and his ways that Islamist do as they do. They follow in the footsteps of Muhammad and I laugh at any Muslim who says they are being un-Islamic.

        Muslims have to start seriously asking themselves some questions about their faith. They have to either condemn Muhammad for his violence and murder or forever accept that killing is an integral part of Islam. You cannot reform Islam as Martin Luther did with Christianity. For if you attempt to reform Islam you will in essence be going against the very actions of its creator, Muhammad.
        You attack Robert Spencer because he quotes the Qur’an and hadith in relation to what is happening today with radical Islam and Islamic extremism. He has quoted many parts of the Qur’an alongside the hadith. Are you thus saying that the verses he quotes in the Qur’an are also lies?

        I don’t know what I find more worrying Lolicia – the invasion of immigrants, who seek to impose their way of life upon the indigenous, or the indigenous who actively protect them which will most certainly result in a future of conflict and bloodshed.

        I have never spoken out against peaceful Muslims.
        I have never stated I hated any Muslims either (as Lasha appears to believe).
        I seek only to continue the rights of the indigenous peoples, to live in their lands by their way of life and not have to fight invaders who seek to impose their own.
        This is my stance. I am not for colonization and the imposition of immigrants’ way of life over that of the indigenous’.

      6. Madame Flutterby,

        Firstly, I would not call myself a Scotsman as the Scots people and their culture were defeated in 1745 by the English. Scotland is a globalist state, as is England, Ireland and Wales. The Scottish people no longer exist (apart from around 50,000 Gaelic speakers in the Highlands and Islands), although many people do believe they are.

        Secondly, never terrorized anyone.

        Thirdly, I don’t start arguments in pubs. The argument you speak of was with my brother-in-law who believed that the Third Reich exterminated 6 million Jews. This forum has clearly debunked this myth.

        Fourthly, I don’t beat anyone up. I have had to defend myself though, but then, as a doorman, you have to when attacked.

        Fifthly, I don’t wear a kilt (and kilts aren’t proud btw. They’re inanimate objects), as stated, there is no Scottish culture and won’t delude myself into thinking it is by wearing one once or twice a year at weddings or sporting occasions. You either live the culture or you don’t.

        Sixthly, Ingrid was banned after Sardonicus giving an ultimatum, either he goes or she does, after some disagreement. I never once called for her to be banned. We disagreed on much, most notably her condoning of the immigrant invasion. I have never tried to silence you, nor have I ever defamed you either. In fact, I believe this is probably the fourth or fifth reply to you. I’ve never really been interested in anything you’ve had to state quite frankly.

        And lastly, I confess, I am a misogynist, only because it’s definition lumps mistrust of women, with hatred of which the latter I most certainly do not.

        I find it quite sad that you should reply to Lolicia as you have about me. Although you have falsely stated I have tried to silence you with ‘abominable calumnies’, it will most certainly appear to all, reading your reply, that you have tried to with me. Talk about digging your own grave. 🙂

      7. Harb –

        I share your concerns.

        Contrary to the prez… proselytizing musselmen fundamentalists DO cut off heads in America.

        A man beheaded a co-worker at a food processing company in Oklahoma on Thursday afternoon, and stabbed another employee before he was shot and wounded by a company executive, the police said Friday.

        The suspect, identified as Alton Nolen, who has a criminal history, had just been fired from the company, Vaughan Foods, and “he recently started trying to convert some of his co-workers to the Muslim religion,” said Jeremy Lewis, a spokesman for the police department in Moore, Okla. It was not immediately clear if that proselytizing was a reason for his termination.

        After being fired, “he drove to the front of the business, running into a vehicle, exited his vehicle, entered the business, where he encountered the first victim, Colleen Hufford, and began assaulting her with a knife,” Mr. Lewis said. “He did kill Colleen and did sever her head.”

        http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/27/us/oklahoma-man-is-said-to-behead-co-worker.html?_r=0

      8. My reference to Robert Spencer is that he is a leading scholar on Islamic jurisprudence. It has nothing whatsoever to do with whether I like or dislike him as that is irrelevant. What it does have to do with is his knowledge on the Qur’an and the hadith, of which he is well learned.

        harb,
        my advice is not to let robert Spencer take you to deep waters on Islam because he will dump you there.
        Since you keep telling us how he is outstanding in his field (islam-bashing) and how many imams tapped out debating him, I decided to take a look (if there can be jihadwatch fronted by someone with nice anglo name but teeming with Jews (main sponsor is David Horowitz of “Freedom Center”), then why not a spencerwatch?
        he is a career thinktanker, a” fellow with the Free Congress Foundation, an arm of the Heritage Foundation” … well as soon as I hear these Orwellian phrases, so typical of the forked tongue of Kabbalah, I know something is up and I am very surprised Harbinger that you of all the people would let yourself get ensnared in the cheapest of Jew’s pitfalls aimed at the ignoramus next door, not someone jew wise.
        When Jew invites you you to his Freedom Center with free lunch in the next door Heritage Foundation, you would do well to turn it down.
        So let’s see (for those still not convinced that he is a crack licking shabbo at best) …

        How many Ph.D’s does Robert Spencer hold on the subject of Islam, Muslims, Islamic history, or Islamic Studies?

        Zero.

        How many Master Degrees does Robert Spencer hold on the subject of Islam, Muslims, Islamic history, or Islamic Studies?

        Zero.

        How many diplomas in Quranic studies, Hadith, Fiqh, or Shariah does Robert Spencer have from Western universities or reputable Islamic houses of learning such as Al Azhar or Qom?

        Zero.

        How many peer-reviewed academic papers has Robert Spencer published?

        Zero.

        Would you still hang your hat on “reference to Robert Spencer (is) that he is a leading scholar on Islamic jurisprudence”?

        I am quite sure that there is at least one scholar with a Ph.D. in the field of Islamic jurisprudence, why not pick him for reference?
        And if he is not fed by scraps off the Jew’s table, so much the better.

        harb, remember this one? 😉

        (…) the aspens will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them. Come back to work—and life.

        except you are no aspen, never will be, so don’t listen to the poison hiss of the Snake.

        As for Robert The Greek debating imams and wiping the floor with them,
        hm, I do not rightly know, you know?
        Salman can debate Christianity with Rev Hagee and easily wipe the floor with him.
        So that makes Salman the world’s leading authority on Christianity.
        Very impressive.

      9. Lobro –

        “When Jew invites you you to his Freedom Center with free lunch in the next door Heritage Foundation, you would do well to turn it down.”

        Great line..!!

        Cyanide might be in in salt shaker….. or Zyklon B. 🙂

      10. About David Horowitz (Spencer’s Boss)

        Horowitz is the growing anti-Muslim movement’s “premier promoter.” He not only funds JihadWatch, (paying Robert Spencer $132, 537 for blogging) but has also directed anti-Muslim campaigns such as “Islamofascism Awareness Week“, which brought leading Muslim-bashers to more than a hundred college campuses in October 2007.

        “$132, 537 for blogging”, not bad for a part time job, he must be good at whatever Horowitzes of this world want him to do.

        Lasha, how much is Monty paying you?
        I am sure way more than $132,537, you got a PhD, have read Qu’ran and are a poetry crackerjack, if you get stuck at spelling islamofascist, give me a call, I just copy and paste the damn thing.

      11. Lasha, how much is Monty paying you?

        I know you ask this question in jest. However, just let me say that Lasha has never received a single penny for anything she has written on the internet. She has received many generous offers from various people but has always turned them down.

      12. @ Lobro

        The Jews are responsible for stirring up the most virulent Islamophobia and are behind the fabrication of the vilest tales in relation to the prophet Mohammed. I receive these toxic offerings in emails on an almost daily basis from Jews and their agents posing as Christians or even as Muslims. Today I received a long post all about the “thighing” of little boys and girls by Mohammed, including the “thighing” of his 6-year-old childwife Aisha — too obscene to quote on this family website.

        Allow me to give you a relatively “harmless” sample, copypasted straight from the email received this morning:

        The prophet would do all his wives in one night

        Bukhari (62:6)

        “The prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives.”

        Muhammad also said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally – and it isn’t hard to guess why.

        Bukhari (5:268)

        “The prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number.” I asked Anas, ‘had the prophet the strength for it?’ Anas replied, ‘we used to say that the prophet was given the strength of thirty men.”

        Allah promoted this abusive sexual behavior:

        “Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will” [Q 2:223]

        Koran (2:223) likens a woman to a field (tilth), to be used by a man as he wills. In this verse, Allah also gives divine sanction for anal sex.

        According to the above, Mohammed had enough sexual energy to 9-10 women a night (and maybe 30). Forget that. Just note this:

        “Koran (2:223) likens a woman to a field (tilth), to be used by a man as he wills. In this verse, Allah also gives divine sanction for anal sex.”

        If you are gullible, you will accept this as true. However, if you do a check on Qur’an 2.223, you will see it is a TOTAL FABRICATION! At no time does “Allah give divine sanction for anal sex.” These are the kinds of lies, I believe, that are peddled by the like of Horowitz and Spencer.

        Here is the complete translation from the classic Yusuf Ali translation of Qur’an 2.223. Can you see any reference to anal sex here? (BTW, “Tilth” = a field to be plowed.” So a woman, in sexual intercourse, is likened to a field being plowed.)

        Your wives are
        A tilth unto you;
        So approach your tilth
        When or how ye will;
        But do some good act
        For your souls beforehand;
        And fear God,
        And know that ye are
        To meet him (in the Hereafter),
        And give (these) good tidings
        To those who believe.

        No reference here to “anal sex” whatsoever. A complete lie!

        The Islamophobic material I receive is full of similar hate-filled lies about Mohammed. I won’t bother to quote you the full bit about Mohammed “showing a marital interest in a crawling baby.” Another wicked fabrication.

      13. Pat,

        It is disgusting. Sure the majority of Muslims won’t do this but the sad thing is that there is a minority who will. That minority is growing and worse, they do it in the name of Islam. This automatically gets people’s backs up and as I said, they’re doing nothing different to what Muhammad did. No Christian, for example could say they are following the path of Christ by doing the same. Killing may have been committed by the Christian Zealots of the path, contrary to the teachings of Christ. There is no ‘contrary’ with Muhammad unfortunately.

      14. Lobro,

        I want to make myself clear to you and others on the stance of Islam which people on here clearly do not seem to see.

        I am simply amazed that people do not seem to see that if the prophet of your religion murdered and gave the orders to murder people in the promotion of his faith, why oh why oh why do people say “Well, these people are not true Muslims because murder is wrong and it says so in the Qur’an”. Lobro, if anyone, within the Muslim faith is being a true Muslim it is those who are following in the footsteps of Muhammad, the prophet, the embodiment of man, to all Muslims.

        There is no criticism of Muhammad. Quite the contrary. If there is any, see the links of pictures in my reply to you above. For Islam to be accepted by non Muslims it most certainly has too. They first have to condemn the violence of Muhammad, how he established Islam and the violent passages within the Qur’an. They won’t for in doing so they condemn their faith. They will not do this. And it is for this reason that you do not see Muslims out there fighting against the Islamists, or counter demonstrations to to the likes of Anjem Choudary et all. You do not, for example hear Imams speaking against these radical Imams, only the usual “we challenged their views”.

        Lobro, I would not be taking this stance were I to see Muslims admitting that the actions of Islamists is no different to that of what Muhammad did. I would have no problem with Islam were Muslims to come out openly condemning Sharia Law and stating that it has no place in the west and other non Islamic lands.
        I wholly accept that Islam state to fight oppression where it is and they most certainly did in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, but what about the Phillipines, back in 2013, for example, where Muslims forced 70,000 non Muslims out of their homes, besieged cities and attempted to create an Islamic state in its south? What of the Islamist organisation in Nigeria, Boko Harem, committing terror there on non Muslims? I accept that the west is invading lands, under Zionist support, but what on earth have Nigeria and the Phillipines got to do with it? My point, sure, fight against oppression but then don’t oppress, which is clearly happening in the above countries by Muslims.

        And lastly, again on Spencer, since when does one have to go to university, attain a degree, to become a Scholar? I always. Is a scholar one who has only attained a scholarship/degree? Can one not be scholarly simply through years of study in a certain field of expertise? Would you not agree that Ernst Zundel and Robert Faurisson are scholars of the holocaust, yet have they a degree on the holocaust?

        Yes, I disagree with Horowitz and Gellar on Israel. However, simply through study on Islamic history and Islam itself, although there may be peaceful Muslims in this world, Islam most certainly is not a religion of peace, from its track record, teachings and the behaviour of its prophet.

        You live with Muslims. I accept that. I also have lived with Muslims. However, that stated, if they are called to Jihad, would they be Muslims if they refused? What if the call comes to ‘slay the unbeliever’? How many Muslims would refuse to come to the call of Islam in whatever European city that they reside in? How many Muslims would refuse their Mosque, when they are told that they must all support the Islamic party that sought Sharia law and Islamisation of that land Lobro? Can you guarantee that Muslims, living in the west will always live under common law and the respect the cultures of the alien lands they live in? Can other Muslims give the Europeans that guarantee?

        This is the crux of the matter Lobro and one that you still appear to body swerve, regardless how many times I bring it up. Can you guarantee Muslim integration of future generations? Can you guarantee that Islamism will not grow?

        Until I know the answers for the above Lobro and until I truly know that Muslims are not a fifth column within the lands I live in, I will always be wary and question every aspect of it. This is my stance.

  7. Has Lobro lived in London where Muslims, in their Sharia patrols, stopped him from walking down the road with a beer in his hand and telling his female companion that she had to cover herself up? Has he? I highly doubt it.

    I quite sympathize, Harb and this is why London is one islamic turf which i avoid as assiduously as Doha, Qatar.
    Ask yourself who made it this way and could there be a possibility that it was made that way on purpose.

    5 dancing shlomos knows that I would greatly prefer hanging out in a peaceful neighborhood of Bab Toma, Damascus, with an ibrik of steaming coffee, where Christians and Muslims coexisted for over thousand years and will coexist for another thousand or more, once the jews are booted out for good.
    Because it was in the neighborhood of Bab Toma where in the 19th century Jews killed, bled and ate parts of a kindly Capuchin monk, Fra Tomaso and his young Muslim helper in a well researched Purim ritual murder, an ancient practice that they pursued from Christ onward, if not before.
    They tricked Fra Tomaso, who had some medical training to enter the Jew quarter after sabbath in order to minister to a supposedly sick patient, ambushed him, dragged him off to the sanctuary where they performed their satanic ceremony culminating in his martyrdom and then did the same to his Muslim sidekick who went searching for his master.
    Some Muslims are good, some are bad, some Christians are good and some are bad but for practical purposes, ALL Jews are bad, the ones that aren’t are negligible in number.

    I don’t discount the possibility that there are kind hearted scorpions but neither do I make it into a principle.

    Your UK (and West European) Muslims are such a cartoonish, insanely nasty lot that I wonder if it is just the case of bad luck or is it by some design, because outside Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait, such degenerates simply don’t exist in appreciable quantities, and if by design, by whose design?

    You are free to take Robert Spencer’s take on Qu’ran as gospel truth, your choice.
    But before I take his expertise seriously, let me ask you this.
    Spencer is very concerned about purported intolerance and violence inherent in Qu’ran and it supposedly informs and explains the behavior of an “average” Muslim, right?
    So, since Spencer is such a kind dude, did he also happen to look at the root document and dogma, namely the Torah (Old Testament) and Judaism?
    Because if he didn’t, he is a phony with an agenda, which is to promote Judaism behind the screen of the criticism of Qu’ran and his lovey-dovey with Pamela Geller confirms that.

    Look: Pamela Geller is to Islam what Barbara Spectre is to Christianity and as the former pretends to defend “white Christian” values, the latter promotes infiltration by rabid, fanatical islamic cults under the guise of DIVERSITY/RESPECT (ever watch any FIFA/UEFA soccer?)
    Still confused about the playbook? i doubt it Harb, you are too smart for that.

    Every Jew has his instructions as per The Protocols and the yeshiva briefings, every Jew is a sayan if not the outright operative and if we refuse to focus on the basics, we risk getting hopelessly confused just as in favorite Jew slapstick where Charlie Chaplin and Groucho Marx antagonize dumb goyim who swing, miss the ducking jew, connect with each other and descend into an all out brawl while the giggling Jews make of with silverware.
    That’s exactly what we are seeing and DOING.

    1. Lobro,

      The story of Sayyid Qutb and the creation of the Islamic brotherhood, after Qutb seeing the materlialist, degraded and depraved culture beginning to take hold of America and not wanting it to travel like a cancer out of America is an interesting story. So essentially he was repulsed at the Judaicisation of the USA. This is really where all this started, well certainly a big part of it.

      Imams today are defeated by these so called ‘radical’ Imams, because they remain strict and true to the Qur’an, that is. When Spencer takes on any Imam on a talk show, he destroys them, quoting Qur’an passages, that leaves the Imams chewing their words and not knowing what to say.
      Now the problem with the reformation of Islam, was when it went back to its roots as the reformation of Christianity did, we saw the complete opposite of ‘peaceful’ Islam and a much more hard-line, strict, devout, pious, religion be reborn.

      Now the lands you went to live in where Christians and Muslims had lived in peace with one another for hundreds of years, were lands where the peoples are technically the same, just choosing different religions. Here, however in the UK, not only did we have a migration of Pakistanis and Bangladeshis in the 70’s and onwards, they also brought with them an alien religion, one that is completely opposite to the Christian way of life in many of its beliefs and opposing of western cultures.
      It is these people who are growing under hard-line Islam that are going to pose a colossal problem as their population grows.

      As regarding Spencer, regardless whether I agree with his views on the ‘Judeo-Christian’ west (I don’t) and his support for Israel (I don’t either) is not in question here. It’s whether or not what he’s stating about Islam is correct or not. From having read it, from rereading the passages he quotes and from listening to him demolish Imams on their religion and its so called peaceful and tolerant ways of non Muslims simply proves that he’s stating the truth about the Qur’an and the hadith. Were it not so, Imams would be demolishing him.

      More so, the ‘radicals’ in the UK, such as Anjem choudary, Abu Izadeen and Abu Hamza to name but a few are most certainly preaching to many and many within the younger Muslim generations are listening. As this is the case and as has always been the way with intolerance over tolerance, we will not see the sheep unite together to push out the wolves. On the contrary, if they are told by these radicals that they are not being good Muslims, then they will question themselves and how they live by the tenets of their faith. They will either become apostates or become more strict in their duty to their faith.

      I simply do not want the resurgence of the warlord Muhammad teachings in the west amongst the younger generations of Muslims.
      And yes you know that I know what the Jackanory is regarding the Jews, but regardless, the Islamic fire is burning, most certainly started by Jews and unless we put it out, then it will destroy much.

  8. Harbinger is correct when he says many high-ranking officers in Hitler’s forces were Jews. Truthfully, because they were not Semites, I refer to them as counterfeit-Jews or quite simply SO-CALLED Jews because they were named that which they are not.

    The term “anti-Semitic” has taken on a false meaning because it is wrongly understood as meaning anti-Jew, but when the majority of “Jews” are not Semites, then it is a LIE. The purpose of that particular LIE is to keep hidden the true identity of true SEMITES. Distinguishing the difference between the two is as critical as exposing their Holohoax. Why? Because if all True Semites of Abraham (racially or spiritually grafted-in) were to recognize (actually remember) their identity, they could defeat the counterfeit-Jews.

    The entirely UNCONDITIONAL National Birthright – The Abrahamic Covenant
    http://JAHTruth.net/abraham.htm

  9. Admin,

    Again, I apologise for going off topic, but I was called out by Eddie, Lolicia and Madame and answered their posts.

  10. If perchance you find yourself straying and whereby ipso facto you’re going OFF TOPIC it’s always a GOOD idea to apologize profusely to Uncle, less chance Uncle will have a total nervous breakdown because you went OFF TOPIC for a few minutes and then Lasha has to stop what’s she’s doing to rush Uncle to his local mental hospital to be sedated and thrown into a straight (SIC) jacket for a week until he recovers from your straying into OFF TOPIC territory. Maybe by apologizing, you can keep a mental breakdown from happening. Maybe not, but it’s worth a try. Nothing to lose at least. We got a sensitive Uncle, so be nice to Uncle so he doesn’t turn into a complete mess.

  11. Lasha,

    “The Jews are responsible for stirring up the most virulent Islamophobia”

    Seeing as you’ve failed to reply to my first asking you of this, why Lasha do you persist in using liberal slur words to promote your argument?
    You are supposed to be a learned individual, but shall I remind you of what a phobia is:

    “pho·bi·a (fō′bē-ə)
    n.
    1. A persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear of a specific thing or situation that compels one to avoid it, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous.
    2. A strong fear, dislike, or aversion.”

    So Lasha, tell me, were those peoples of Europe, in the past, whose lands that were invaded by Muslims, who fought back against those, wishing to turn the world’s nations into Islamic nations, Islamaphobes?
    Did they have an irrational fear of Islam? Did they panic because they didn’t have a clue as to why, when they found out the Muslims had invaded their lands, or did they panic and were afraid at the thought of being murdered or taken into slavery and forced to live under an Islamic way of life and not their own? Was their behaviour rational or irrational Lasha?

    Having just watched a video, listening to Robert Spencer, speak out against the Islamic forcing of Sharia Law with two Islamists Anjem Choudary and Abu Bara I am wondering whether you would have an irrational fear at the thought of Sharia Law being implemented in the UK/USA or a rational one? I really, as a westerner, non Muslim, cannot see how any other non Muslim, in a non Islamic land could disagree with the views as given here by Robert Spencer. Do you agree with his sentiment? Do you think that we, in the west should have the choices to live our lives, or we should be restricted into doing what Islamists think? Do you think that Muslims should tell me that I can’t eat pork or drink beer, something that has been in my culture long before Muhammad existed? Do you think Islamists should tell me I can’t listen to music, write or perform it, something I’ve been doing all my life?

    It appears then Lasha, that according to you, my concerns of Islam is overwhelmingly an irrational fear, as though I haven’t the ability to think critically about it. Heck, I’m having a panic attack right now just thinking about the word Muslim! Interesting, you write articles on the Immigrant invasion, the Cologne attacks and then you call people out as Islamaphobes when they read your articles, put two and two together, come up with four, then correct them that it’s five actually.

    Lasha, I’m seriously beginning to have drawbacks about you. You are like a frog jumping from one lily pad to another. One day you’re pro west, speaking out against the invasion of Muslims from foreign lands. Then another day you’re promoting the peace and love within the Qur’an…..
    If there is peace and love within the Qur’an, then why are you concerned with the Islamic invasion of the west? It appears then that you wouldn’t really be bothered living under Sharia then? It would after all be the will of God as the Islamists tell us. Didn’t you consider converting to Islam in the past?
    I’m sure you’d just love walking about in a black tent, not being allowed to listen to your favourite music and drink your wine. Oops, forgive me, I went a little off track there…..must be my phobia coming back again to take over all rational thought.

    I hate to say it but something tells me that all is not right about this website. Things just simply are not adding up. It appears then that every concern, every defense, of every indivdiual, within the west, from whatever attacking force, has undoubtedly been the actions of one with a phobia. Silly me for thinking otherwise…….

    1. @ Harbinger

      I am absolutely against multiculturalism and mass immigration which is being promoted by the EU. So are you. I am all for Brexit. We agree on this, don’t we?.

      I also agree with you that uncontrolled mass immigration is a plague. It has to stop. And that the repatriation of large numbers of recent immigrants, especially the illegal ones, is a reasonable option for any future right-minded leader.

      When your house is invaded by squatters, eviction is the only sensible solution.

      Think about all the things we agree upon, dear Harbinger, and stop acting like an angry hornet just because Lobro and I cannot agree with you ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!

      Isn’t NINETY PERCENT agreement good enough for you? 🙂

      I am all for strict immigration controls, which includes Muslims, but I am not for indiscriminate Quran bashing or the demonizaton of all Muslims. I would regard that as extreme. So would you. Because haven’t you told us repeatedly that you don’t hate all Muslims? That you have nothing against the peaceable ones?

      We have lots in common, dear Harbinger. Please remember this. You are an excellent poster, with many original ideas and also passionately sincere in what you say. This is something we all value.

      Peace and blessings,

      Lasha

      P.S. In future I will make a point of posting less in the Comment section. It was a big mistake for me intervene when you were embroiled in a discussion with Lobro and others. I am now withdrawing from the discussion.

      1. Harbinger —

        Watch out for the video we are posting tomorrow. This is just for you. It’s all about the menace of multiculturalism and mass immigration — and who is behind it. You will agree with this 100 percent! 🙂

      2. Lasha,

        “but I am not for indiscriminate Quran bashing or the demonizaton of all Muslims. I would regard that as extreme. So would you. Because haven’t you told us repeatedly that you don’t hate all Muslims? That you have nothing against the peaceable ones?”

        How many times will I have to state my point before people take it as read? Is that a really hard thing to do? Why is it people like to put words into my mouth, putting me in camps I oppose?

        Ok, for you Lasha so you know where I stand ok?

        1. Do I hate Muslims – NO
        2. Do I hate Islam – NO
        3. Do I think Muslims and Islam should be demonized – NO

        However what I will state as I always have on Islam is the following:

        1. Muhammad, we are told, was a 7th century warlord, whom not being able to convert people to Islam, amassed an army and the rest is history. He most certainly did not go about things the way Christ did.

        2. Because of the above point, whatever murder, land theft and Islamic religion forcing is done by ISLAMISTS the so called ‘moderate’ Muslims have no grounds to denounce them, for in doing so they denounce Muhammad, their prophet. This is why there cannot be a reformation within Islam because to do so would condemn much of the life of Muhammad and his actions. It would also pretty much remove Islamic law. A reformation would be the death of Islam.

        3. Because of the above two points, it is clear to see that although there are peaceful verses within the Qur’an, there are also verses that preach violence to non Muslims. Now while we can say that there were also violent verses in the Bible, Christians follow the teachings of their prophet Christ, within the New Testament. There is no New Testament within Islam, only the Qur’an and the hadith. You are comparing apples with pears when comparing violent verses within the Qur’an and Old Testament with the teachings of Christ.

        4. And lastly, if people choose to live within a Theocracy and live by the law of God, in this case, Islamists and Islamic law, then they should move to a country that enforces this way of life. I’m sure Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Pakistan and all others would happily accept them all. If however people do not want to live under a Theocracy and instead a land where the state and religion are not one, then they too should have that right.
        I believe first and foremost in freewill of the individual to live their life however they see fit. I may disagree in their lifestyle choices, but it is not for me to tell them to do otherwise. I am not an authoritarian.
        Therefore, that all stated, I am greatly concerned with the rise of the Islamic population in Europe. I am concerned in just how many of the so called ‘moderates’ are moderate and would oppose Sharia Law, should Imams call for it to be implemented when the Islamic majority reaches that of the non. The election, as mayor of London, of Sadiq Khan greatly concerned me. It proved that most Muslims are still very tribal. It sets a dangerous precedent for the freedoms of peoples within the UK in the future, as the Islamic population grows.

        I lean far more to the teachings of Christ than I do Muhammad. I believe in freewill and for the individual to choose their path in life, not told how to live by other men and women. This is wrong, completely wrong and for Muslims, or any other religious peoples to believe this way is simply deplorable to say the least. Do not force your way of life upon those who do not wish it. It’s called respect and something that Islamists most certainly don’t have.

      3. Toby,

        I tend to agree on the pretty much everything that is posted and written here. However, I understand very well when Islamists behave as they do and most certainly do not condone, moderates who tell me that they’re being un-Islamic. These moderates need to understand how their prophet lived. They have to either accept that he was a man who instituted a faith by killing and conquest, or they have to condemn it, thereby denouncing the actions of their prophet. Sadly, to condemn the killing and conquest of Islamists, wherever in this world they are would be to condemn the very foundations of their faith and overall goals of Islam (conquest with a world under Islam). If I am to disagree with Lasha and admin on this, then so be it, but what I have proven is while Islam may have many peaceful Muslims, it most certainly is not a peaceful religion. It does not promote freewill as God is supposed to have given man. That being the case it also proves that the God of Islam is most certainly NOT the God of the Christians.

        Now all that written I’m bowing out of this debate. I apologize again for going off topic, but show my gratitude to allowing this debate to happen and to those who partook within it.

      4. Pat,

        Why then is it so hard for people to NOT be able to understand what I’ve written? Why on earth are they calling me an ‘Islamaphobe’ and a ‘hater’ when all I’m doing is stating historical fact about Muhammad and Islam? Are they not behaving towards me as holocaust believers do towards holocaust revisionists?

      5. Harb –

        “Are they not behaving towards me as holocaust believers do towards holocaust revisionists?”

        I would describe it that way.

        Most Goyim are very easy prey. They’ll turn the other cheek when attacked.

        And…. Why anyone would follow a murderer who promotes women as slaves is beyond me.

        I guess mostly it is because of promotion of the foolish notions of liberty…. for all…. in the West… which is an impossible position to attain.

      6. Pat,

        “Most Goyim are very easy prey. They’ll turn the other cheek when attacked.”

        Interesting. Always something I say to people when I tell them that I can’t quite get with the full Jesus, religious program. I don’t believe in turning the other cheek. In fact I don’t believe in allowing someone the opportunity to give me a choice of turning the other cheek.

        You know I’m 100% behind liberty, but that said, “do unto others as you expect to be done unto yourself”. Feel free to live how you so choose, but do wrong and expect to be wronged back.

      7. Harb –

        You and I, and others here…. do not come under the umbrella of ‘most’ I mentioned. ‘Most’ never engage in any form. They keep heads down and slave away….. and vote. 🙂

        A single person living as a hermit – alone – without any human contact, in the wilderness, is about as close as anyone will ever get to touching liberty. Then enters the beast or an angry critter.

        A family man has scant liberty. Rulers have even less.

    2. I hate to say it but something tells me that all is not right about this website

      I hate to say it but something tells me that in your HATE (and there is no beating around that bush), you’ve gone off the deep end and are perfectly willing to make common cause with Talmudist witchdoctors that have put a spell on you. I am truly sorry to see that Harb but it does seem to be true.
      Let me show you who you support while dissing Lasha.

      The world’s greatest scholar on the questions of Islam (who does not speak Arabic) says:
      (interestingly, the link is being redirected away from the original:
      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/05/2-men-in-new-york-and-florida-charged-in-qaeda-conspiracy.html)

      I have written on numerous occasions that THERE IS NO DISTINCTION IN THE AMERICAN MUSLIM COMMUNITY BETWEEN PEACEFUL MUSLIMS AND JIHADISTS

      Lasha, if you disagree with this, something is not right about you.

      How about this: Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer fundraise on Norway attack
      America’s most virulent anti-Islam bloggers continue attacking all Muslims, accuse terror victims of anti-Semitism

      Anders Breivik, the anti-Islam terrorist who killed 77 people in Norway on July 22, read a lot of American anti-Islam bloggers, many of whom he cited in his lengthy manifesto. Breivik’s favorites included Robert Spencer, a self-proclaimed expert on Islam whose “Jihad Watch” blog was quoted and cited in Breivik’s manifesto, and Spencer’s ally and collaborator Pam Geller, whose “Atlas Shrugs” was similarly recommended by the killer.

      They are now actually fundraising on the fact that they helped inspire a massacre.

      And you figure that Spencer is a more trustworthy source than Lasha, that “something is wrong with Lasha”?
      But Spencer-Geller dynamic duo is just fine.

      So, when Spencer says that:
      (Debbie) Schlussel and (Pamela) Geller are freedom fighters, warriors for human rights
      he truly means it (here is a pic of the two lovebirds in heat, aren’t they just made for each other, huh?)
      What next, that Holocaust is all true because Spencer says so?
      Harb … I ask you to come to your senses … FOCUS, come out of this judeohypnosis.

      It is JEWS who as per age old plan ensured that the worst of the faux-Islamic rabble were herded into Europe, this was foretold by Kalergi, the Protocols and so on, all along, in order to destroy Christian societies and foment the war between non_jews, all for the jews profit.
      JUST LIKE THE WW1 AND WW2.
      You are acting exactly like the brain washed Holobabble believers who wear jewskin lampshades on their heads.
      And you’ve been got at by the same satanists who cooked up the Holocaust, in fact, Netanyahu now claims that Palestinians are to blame for Holocaust, while funding, supplying and directing ISIS, the same ISIS he pretends to criticize.
      Now I totally doubt that Spencer ever debated anything publicly with a legitimate Muslim, it was a staged event arranged by Jew propagandists (and they are masters of the art) using a phony ISIS jihadist “imam” who knows less about Islam, Qu’ran and Mohamed than even I, who never read a line of Qu’ran nor intend to.
      It would never occur to Spencer or his owner Horowitz to have him face a legitimate Islamic theorist like sheikh Imram Hossain or someone of that stature.
      Nice company you got yourself there Harb.
      LYING LIARS, every one of them, it is their one and only religion, John 8:44

      You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out his desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, refusing to uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, because he is a liar and the father of lies.

      And you will answer with, yeah, they are liars, they say Kol nidre at Yom Kippur but just now they are saying the pure, unbiased truth.

      Dump Spencer, Geller and all the rest of them Harb, this is the road to Talmud, to perdition, who lies with dogs gets up with fleas.

      And I am not asking you to worship Mohamed or observe ramadan or Sharia.
      Just stick with the truth and kol nidre is not the truth.
      FOCUS on the real Enemy, I’ve now been telling you this for years.

      1. Lobro,

        What on earth has everything you’ve written above got to do with what I’ve written? I suggest that you reread my post above Toby, to Lasha, to see where I stand.

        I disagree with your views on Islam and so you call me a ‘hater’. Are you not being somewhat childish here? Is this not the buzzword now, for everyone on social media, the Social Justice Warriors, who will shout it out at those with a differing opinion? Where have I ever and I REPEAT ever stated I hate Islam, moreso, brought emotion in my arguments?

        Now Lobro, how about I ask you some questions on Muhammad the holy prophet of Islam?

        1. Do you agree that Muhammad killed and forced people, under pain of death to convert to Islam?
        2. Was he a warlord who conquered lands in order to institute Islamic way of life upon them?

        You see Lobro, where on earth is the hate above? Is telling the truth now hate…wait a minute,,,do they not do exactly the same to holocaust deniers? Are they not haters because they revise history and come up with truths that people do not want to hear?

        And then to finish your drivel, you lapse into shaming, implying next I’ll be agreeing that the nazis exterminated 6million Jews in death camps, in WWII.

        Really Lobro? I mean really?

        Anyone with the slightest modicum of common sense, who has read history knows that Muhammad was a warlord who murdered many and ordered the murder of many. This did not come from the direction of Robert Spencer, Pamella Gellar or Horowitz. It came a long, long time ago, from recorded pages of history.
        Muhammad fought his way, killing, converting and enforcing Islamic law upon all. This is history.
        What are Jihadists doing? Are they not killing, converting and enforcing Islamic law upon all? Or do you deny this?
        What you are failing to see, in my argument is that I AM NOT CALLING MUSLIMS VIOLENT, AGGRESSIVE, JIHADIS who want to murder everyone and enforce Islamic Sharia upon all. Do you see this, or do you want to continue putting words into my mouth? What I am stating is simple and you don’t have to be intelligent to understand it so here goes:

        IF MUHAMMAD KILLED, CONVERTED PEOPLE TO ISLAM AND ENFORCED ISLAMIC LAW UPON THEM, THEN, JIHADIS ARE DOING NO DIFFERENT TO THEIR PROPHET AND THEREFORE ARE BEING NOTHING MORE THAN TRUE MUSLIMS.

        Are you able to understand the above Lobro?
        Yes, there are Muslims and in what I am about to state, use the word with a pinch of salt, who are incredibly peaceful, prefer to live in a democracy, not a theocracy and wouldn’t say boo to a mouse, but in that, by not spreading the world of Islam and not creating the global caliphate, bringing the world under Islam, are in fact, going contrary to the teachings of their prophet Muhammad.
        This Lobro is where Islam and their continued BS mantra Islam is a Religion of Peace falls flat on its face.
        Seeing as you have failed to read what I have written, AGAIN, I will tell you straight. People in life are judged by their actions. Christ was peaceful. Muhammad was not. Christ promoted love and peace. Muhammad killed and killed many then decided to promote love and peace. It however, doesn’t really work does it? When you’ve killed and murdered many, you will never be looked upon as a peaceful and loving individual who had compassion for others would you? People die in prison for murdering far, far less than Muhammad did. What does that say about Muhammad? However, he is worshiped in Islam and yet they tell us it is wrong to kill? So, if its wrong to kill, does it therefore not mean that Muslims should be condemning the actions of their prophet? Or by not condemning him does it mean that they condone his behaviour? Does it mean that they secretly believe that his way is the right way and in all those non Islamic lands where they frequent, are they just waiting until their numbers grow to seize power through Jihad and installing Islam?

        I never got any of the above from Robert Spencer Lobro. I used a little bit of critical thinking, something, it appears, you have completely lost within this debate. I have been told on many occasions of my prescience, but I merely look at history, weigh up the situation and say what I have to say.

        I could be wrong about Muslims in the west Lobro.
        They may very well, with future generations integrate within society and not wish to create a Theocracy.
        Then again, I could be right, moreso, when one understands the very foundations of Islam and the actions of Muhammad, as stated in this reply.

        So Lobro, is it not better to be cautious? Is it not better to keep the Muslim population to 2% in the non Muslim west, thereby bringing about a far higher probability of integration and far less probability of radicalisation? Or should we just allow the Muslim population and continue believing the moderate Muslims, who in 50 years will laugh in our faces, tell us what a bunch of gullible idiots we all are and elect an Islamic party that will institute Sharia Law and turn the western nations into Islamic Theocracies?

        You see Lobro, the first scenario will not harm Muslims whatsoever. It will not give them their Sharia law if they so secretly desire it, but for those who do they will always have the freedom to go and live in Islamic lands that do have it.
        On the contrary Lobro, the second scenario will greatly harm non Muslims. If the west is Islamized, where will the non Muslims be able to go, to live in a freedom loving society, who do not wish to live within an Islamic Theocracy? Unlike the Muslims in the first scenario, who will always have that choice, where is the fairness of doing the like to non Muslims, should they get their global caliphate?

        What I see Lobro, are two scenarios where one of the two clearly has respect for the other to live its way of life as it so chooses. Shall we play Russian Roulette with the freedom of our future generations Lobro?

        Instead of throwing puerile insults, look at what’s being written. There is no hate in my thesis. I have not brought emotion into any of my debate. You, on the contrary have. And for your information, I read Robert Spencer, before I found out about Judaism and Zionism. I don’t just believe all of someone’s views, because I agree with some of them. Surely by now you will have seen this?

        I’m disappointed with you Lobro, to say the least. We disagree with each other on Islam, I for the freedom of peoples who do not wish to be under Islamic rule. I have seen the Jihadist, Sharia wishing aspect of Islam and the violence that it brings a well as the peaceful side of it. You haven’t. You have only seen the peaceful aspect of Islam, so I’m afraid to say, although you are educated to speak of one, you are most certainly not on the other. I suggest you leave that to those who have, don’t you? And stop behaving like a big kid – “hater” really Lobro? I mean really?

      2. Here is my answer to you, Harb, a short and a more detailed one.

        Short: you raised my ire pretty seriously by casting Lasha and this site in negative light in comparison to Robert Spencer as a more trustworthy source of both historical facts and analysis, in fact you said:
        “something tells me that all is not right about this website”.
        Because, Robert Spencer is Ilya Ehrenburg clone
        and you are basically saying that Lasha and her website come up short in comparison.

        Details – let me elaborate on what I just said in case you think i exaggerate needlessly:
        Just like Ehrenburg, Spencer is a LIAR, HYPOCRITE and ACCESSORY TO MASS MURDER/GENOCIDE (ie, the murder is directed at an identifiable group of people).
        Let’s itemize:
        he is a lying liar s.o.b. by selling himself to unwary as a world renowned expert on a subject on which he has neither academic credentials nor peer reviewed publication – this is a LIE, pure and simple (and just one of many lies that he peddles).

        He is a hypocrite because in defaming one group, he studiously avoids rubbing a much worse group because this group pays his keep- to wit: he resorts to frequent use of terms like anti-semite, fascist, islamofascist, nazi, he freely (and I am certain mendaciously) slags one religious document, Qu’ran while avoiding comparison with Torah/Old testament about which he never in his traitorous career said the tiniest thing that might be construed as unflattering.

        He is an inciter and accessory to mass murder because Breivik states very clearly that the HATRED (you won’t argue this point, will you) that propelled Breivik to methodically gun down over 70 WHITE ARYAN young people was engendered by the writings of Spencer and Geller, his Jewess mentor, for which they were both completely unapologetic and ALL of Israel exploded in mass celebration the following day (just read the comment board in Jew papers unless it got scrubbed like so much other stuff).
        And in fact, I state that Spencer is WORSE than Ehrenburg.
        because, Ehrenburg, in his lie-riddled critique of Hitler’s germany could at least read German while Spencer cannot say hello in Arabic and yet presumes to teach us all about Mohamed and the meaning of Qu’ran.
        Secondly and more importantly, Ehrenburg was not a traitor to his devil race whereas spencer is, he sold his ass and worthless soul for $132,354 fiat dollars, not even silver pieces – ever ask yourself why does Horowitz pay Spencer for blogging?
        because he wants us to be well informed, naturally, what else does a jew want in life.

        harb, i believe that you are a regular at jihadwatch, so why don’t you do the following.
        ask Spencer for his opinion on 9/11, did 19 jihadis do it? what about dancing Mossadists who said:
        we are not your problem, Palestinians are your problem
        (you are aware of course that Spencer hates palestinians and applauds the jews’ daily murder scoresheet, right?)
        But even assuming the 19 jihadi tale, is it not true that most of them were from saudi arabia, few from jordan, Egypt, maybe Tunis, Morocco or Qatar.
        Did Spencer ever call on wiping out the snake nest that is Saudi arabia, like he should on every single count, be it 9/11 or ISIS? Tell me why not, after all the Evil prophet Mohamed hails from there, doesn’t he.

        Woe to you scribes, Pharisees, HYP-O-CRITES!!!

        I now place that ugly greaseball (just look at his pictures with crocodilian geller) near the top of my list of the world’s most worthless creatures.

        And as for arabic language and its importance to Qu’ran.
        I once commented to a local here in SJJ how much I enjoyed “singing in arabic” at the minarets calling the faithful to prayer x5 daily and he laughed: “don’t say that to them Lobro, singing is frowned upon in the faith, it is chanting” – and it is truly enchanting.
        In every mosque in the world, the call goes out in Arabic only, some standard Qu’ran sayings.
        Because it is said that Qu’ran is the world’s finest poetry in the melodious sound it produces, the balance, the emotion and so on.
        To rely on somebody’s translation, especially if that somebody happens to be a Jew as Spencer’s Qu’ran most likely is, is a travesty.
        all devout Muslims strive to learn enough Arabic to at least read Qu’ran aloud.

        And finally: Qu’ran names all men as equal, brothers-in-arms yes, a warlike religion for warlike men.
        Torah names jews the Chosen, everybody else just slave material, jews being the c**ts-in-arms.
        Guess which is Spencer’s adopted book and which is the Enemy book.

        So there, harb, believe me, if i didn’t hold you in such high regard as a person, i’d go much heavier on you but all i wish is for scales to come off your eyes.
        And at no time am I actually defending Mohamed or Qu’ran above, see for yourself, all i am saying is your priorities are deformed and inverted, starting with how you regard Lasha and this site, which after all allows everyone to say their piece – because it deals in truth.
        Try quoting any of my arguments above at jihadwatch or ask Spencer about his opinion of 9/11 or Holocaust and tell us what happens.

        You are a goy, lost in the maze jew designed for goys, running around and colliding with yourself in their hall of mirrors, like the M.C. Escher ant crawling along the Móbius strip.
        You start off with a lengthy rectangle, mark one side “Truth”, the other, “Lie” and they are clearly bounded and separated.
        But then, take the opposite ends, twist one and stick together, you end up with a single surface endless loop, no more truth, only kol nidre and hasbara and the ant wonders what went wrong.
        When you buy into their program, you are a fly caught in a spiders web, struggle as you might, he will suck your life juice out, nice and slow and you will end up desiccated and soulless, just like Spencer, your maneuvering room demarcated by no-go regions, the third rails that constitute the cobweb.
        Thus, you are free to rant against islam but not saudis or wahhabis or ISIS lest it bring you into conflict with Netanyahu or Barbara Spectre preaching diversity, multiculturalism, RESPECT.
        You are free to rant and rail against Christianity but not against Ziochristianity of hagee and Pope Francis – and so on and so forth.

        Mind those Third Rails, harb and you’ll be okay in jewland – Spencer shows how it’s done.

        and don’t look at any figures, numbers, stats, eg, how many Muslims in the world, where do they live, which kind, where do they cause mayhem lest you realize the proportions, how it is precisely the ones cloned, bred and prodded by JEW that are the source of all your grief.
        No no, blame Mohamed, the qu’ran in yiddish for education.

        Please don’t tell me that you didn’t understand the above.

      3. Lobro,

        I haven’t been on Jihad Watch since 2009. That was seven years ago. It was Islamisation that woke me up to the whole shingbang I’ll have you know. Then I understood about Judaism.

        Again Lobro, you’ve gone off on a non sequitur without answering my argument. Regardless what I state you simply don’t get it. So again, just for you:

        1. Do I hate Muslims? No.
        2. Do I hate Islam? No.
        3. Do I agree in Zionism? No.
        4. Do I support Robert Spencer’s views outwith Islam and Liberty? No.

        Robert Spencer is a Zionist, for that I won’t deny. That stated however, the history that he speaks of regarding Muhammad is true. He was a warlord. He did enforce his religion by the sword. And yes he murdered many people.
        This Lobro is the focus of my argument. I’m not interested how moderate and good Muslims behave as it’s completely irrelevant to the argument that I’ve made.
        Why?
        Simply because Lobro, a shit will always be a shit, regardless how much cream you cover it in.

        Christ promoted an ideology through love and peace.
        Muhammad, on the contrary, did not.

        Ergo, the very actions of Islamists/Jihadis is condoned in the Qur’an, simply because if the man who founded the faith did so, then one is doing no wrong who does the same.
        “But there are passages within the Qur’an that speak of not killing….”
        Yes, I wholeheartedly agree but here’s the problem – if Muslims DO NOT condemn the actions of Muhammad, the wholesale slaughter and forceful conversion of non Muslims into Islam, not forgetting the enslavement of those who would not (and their deaths) then those passages are meaningless. They may have well been written upon the sea.

        They won’t, for in doing so they condemn the very faith that they preach. It will, in fact become defunct. You cannot build a religion of peace upon a mountain of violence and bloodshed. I’m simply amazed that you choose to nonchalantly dismiss this.

        Lobro, there are good Muslims and there are bad Christians, but there can never be a good Islam or a bad Christianity, if one goes by the actions of its creators.

        This is where you are completely missing the wood for the trees and still won’t recognize what I’ve been writing since day one. All of those good Muslims you know need to think about their religion. Many need to consider Christianity.

        Your hatred for Judaism (and you most certainly do, there’s no doubt on that) has greatly clouded your love (and judgement) for Islam. You see through blinkered vision where it is concerned.

        My only interest in what Robert Spencer states upon Islam is if it is correct or not. He does not attack moderate Muslims, but is a proponent of western democracy, that is the choice of the individual to choose to be within a religion or not and to live their life under the law of God, as in common law. Unlike Sharia Law, where there is no separation between the state and religion, one does not have the choice to live as they so choose.
        Although I am no fan of democracy, knowing it to be a banker controlled haven, I would always side with that as it would give me far more freedoms than any Theocracy would. This is the crux of the matter here as regards to liberty.
        He has stated nothing wrong when it comes to the life of Muhammad and the choice of people in the west to not have to live under a Theocracy should they so choose. Islamists have no respect for those who do not wish Islam upon them. This is Islamic law. It is the law within the Qur’an.

        You need to pull off your blinkers when it comes to Islam Lobro.
        You may wish it in the west, but there are many, myself included who simply do not trust the religion for its history, whether it be the actions of Muhammad or those who came after him. Let it exist where it is and let exist where it is, but in non Islamic nations be no higher than 2% of the population where it has no chance of radicalisation and enforcing its faith on those who do not wish it so.

        Now this reply is simple to understand. It promotes liberty for Muslims and non Muslims to live how they so choose, up to a point. That is, should Muslims wish a Theocracy, they will not find it in the west and will need to move to an Islamic land that can cater for their needs.

        If Islam is not a threat Lobro, then we would not have the history that we have of it.
        You know that I know Judaism/Phariseeism/Talmudism/Mystery Babylon is the real threat that we face. I simply ask Muslims to question their faith; to question the actions of their ideal man and to not condone his violent and wrongful behaviour. For in not doing so, they will continue giving the Jihadi Islamists the right to enforce their Theocracy upon the rest of the world. This is simply common sense Lobro. You fail to see this because you’ve living within Islam for a long time that you are beginning to become out of touch with the non Muslim west.

      4. “Pure Islam is first and foremost a political movement – a quest for political power.”

        Islamic Politics 101
        By: Vernon Richards, author of  ”Islam Undressed“
        Any review of the Qur’an and history shows that Muhammad taught and led a totalitarian movement (enforced by the sword) strikingly similar to those led by other fascists and despots in recent history.

        Political Islam compares very well to any totalitarianism system of government including fascism, communism, and imperialism.

        It is simply indisputable that Islamist fundamentalism shares with other totalitarian movements a commitment to centralization of political power and economic control. Islam, by its own definition and design, is a growth industry designed to mobilize the masses and score political victories, subvert host governments, and establish Islamic domination.

        Although it attempts to appropriate a particular religious tradition and garb, all forms of Islamist totalitarianism are not, at bottom, religious movements.

        Pure Islam is first and foremost a political movement – a quest for political power for the express purpose of using it to subjugate all people everywhere.
        http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/VernonRichards50207.htm

      5. Pat,

        You do realise that Lobro will just come on and state that Vernon’s connected to Robert Spencer, Pamella Gellar, Frontpage and a Zionist and rubbish what you’ve stated as nothing but Islamaphobic propaganda, there to castigate Islam and Muslims?

        We are not allowed to say anything negative of Islam Pat. We must continue to attack the Jews and see the Muslims as peaceful people, who follow the peaceful teachings of their holy prophet and wish nothing more than to live in the west peacefully.

      6. Harbinger,

        You are forcing me willy-nilly to research something in which I have absolutely no interest outside this everongoing argument.
        As much as i feel it is a waste of my personal time, because i have other, more significant (to me) interests, I will, for the sake of not just yours but of the present silent audience, look into it and carefully.

        because I simply don’t believe a word that a Zionist and already proven liar says, especially a well paid talmudic shill.
        This is my principle regardless of the topic and it is doubly emphasized now, when the issue is so significant to Jew.
        So, I would second Lolicia’s request that you furnish sources for claims that Mohamed insisted on wholesale slaughter of whoever refused to convert to islam (and while at it, try to explain why is it that both Christianity and Talmudism flourished over a wide geography under the Islamic rule, from Spanish Maghreb to Mughal India and China and points in between).
        From say, 1200 AD onward, would you say that there were more mosques under the Western powers or churches and synagogues under the Muslim governments?
        Am I really promoting non-sequiturs here and if so, what is your main problem, that some book somewhere says something that you disagree with even though it had no effect on the situation on ground for over 800 years? Until NOW, when I state without equivocation that it is a special kind of “Muslim”, a Jew creation, that is the cause of all the trouble in Europe.
        JEWSLEMS.

        So let me do my research and give us links to your statements about Mohamed’s homicidal ways.

      7. Harb –
        Lobro –

        Just one place… out of many……

        The author of the Quran stated to “kill/slay” disbelievers.

        But since Mohammed could not read or write he could not have written/authored it or ‘proof-read’ any of it. 🙂

        ….

        “…kill them wherever you find them..” because “Fitnah”… disbelief “is worse than killing.”

        Quran (2:191-193)

        191. And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-al-Haram (the sanctuary at Makkah), unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

        193. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah) and (all and every kind of) worship is for Allah (Alone). But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)

        http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/noble/sura2.html#191

        …..

        Sahih International
        And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

        http://quran.com/2/191-193

        …..

        Sahih International: And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- îaram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

        Pickthall: And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

        Yusuf Ali: And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.

        Shakir: And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

        Muhammad Sarwar: Slay them wherever you may catch them and expel them from the place from which they expelled you. The sin of disbelief in God is greater than committing murder. Do not fight them in the vicinity of the Sacred Mosque in Mecca unless they start to fight. Then slay them for it is the recompense that the disbelievers deserve.

        Mohsin Khan: And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-al-Haram (the sanctuary at Makkah), unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

        Arberry: And slay them wherever you come upon them, and expel them from where they expelled you; persecution is more grievous than slaying. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, slay them — such is the recompense of unbelievers —
        http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=2&verse=191

      8. Oh ffs Lobro,

        Do some research please?
        Muhammad had over 100 expeditions of which 27 of these were battles.

        Now, common sense prevails when one realises that Muhammad not only fought in these battles but he also ordered other battles. Now Lobro the following is really simple, to understand – HOLY MEN DO NOT WAGE WAR NOR KILL OTHERS. Understand?

        What I find interesting is that Islamic scholars, in order to try to lessen the fact of Muhammad and his conquest and killing/ordering the killing (through waging warfare)say this:

        “The Prophetic approach to war can be better appreciated by looking at some figures. The Messenger of Mercy was forced to defend himself militarily on many occasions, yet the amount of human loss that resulted is surprisingly low given similar battles and wars in human history. From a total of 28 battles and 38 campaigns, the total casualties from those wars, including both sides, amounted to approximately 1 284 lives.

        Someone can argue that the reason for the decreased numbers of causalities is because of the smaller number of combatants that participated in the various campaigns. But a careful examination shows that the percentage of people killed in these wars relative to the number of the people who participated in them amounted to about 1.5 percent. Since the Messenger of Mercy was victorious in most of these battles, the numbers of casualties indicate that he is not to be counted among the ruthless and barbaric warlords, conquerors, and military generals of human history – and in fact, far from it.

        Compare the above numbers to other wars in human history. For example, in the Second World War alone, the relationship between the amount of people killed (including civilians) to the amount of combatants who were involved in that war was 351%. That is, 10 600 000 participated in that war yet the amount of human deaths were as high as 54 800 000.”

        Islamic scholars like to tell us that because the death count then was far less than WW2, for example, it showed Muhammad’s compassion and mercy. People really do believe this crap.

        Notice Lobro, in the links I’ve used they’re PRO Muhammad and Islam sites, with nothing whatsoever to do with Spencer, Gellar, Horowitz or Frontpage?

        Now let’s look at some classic hypocrisy from Qur’anic verse 5:32

        “Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one – it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.”

        But wait a minute didn’t Muhammad wage war and kill people in those wars?

        Lobro, what you continue to miss, regardless of how many times I tell you, over and over and over again…. There is no absolution in killing, ordering the killing of and waging war in the name of peace. You cannot call yourself a holy man/woman if you kill.
        This is important. Again, I’ll tell you why. The Qur’anic verse above (5:32) is not ascribed to Muhammad. Because he is their holy prophet his warfare and subsequent killing/ordering of killing through command is absolved. He is not judged. This is wrong. It is terribly wrong. But moreso, as I’ve told you umpteen times now – Islamist Jihadis, who commit murder in the name of Islam, fighting to instill Islam, in non Islamic lands and install sharia, ARE FOLLOWING IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THEIR PROPHET BY DOING EXACTLY WHAT HE DID – wage war and kill.

        Do you understand that? Are you capable of understanding that? Do you not see that unless Muslims condemn the warfare and conquest of their prophet, Muhammad, stating that you cannot conquer any land in the name of a religion, then you CANNOT condemn the actions of those, within Islam, who follow in his footsteps?

        THIS IS MY WHOLE ARGUMENT LOBRO. An argument that you fail to see and instead shout me down as a hater of Muslims, following Jewish propaganda…blah…blah…blah…..

        Once you order warfare; once you lead armies to conquer lands in the name of your faith you lose ALL moral highground when it comes to promoting peace and compassion to your fellow man. Therefore, all of those passages within the Qur’an that promote such, are no different to decorating a shit with cream. It will always be a shit, not matter how you try to disguise it.

        So to finish lobro, what do I see? I see lots of peaceful people around the world, following a hypocrite, whom they have never condemned for the wrong that he has done to others, yet promoted exactly the opposite ethos to that which he did in his life.

        What else do I see? I see people, living in the west, growing up with Islam, who know that one day, courtesy of low western and high Muslim birthrate, along with unfettered Muslim migration, from Islamic lands in Asia, Africa and the middle east, they will turn every non Islamic nation into an Islamic nation as so many Imams promote around the world.
        I see them as a fifth column, who are simply biding their time, until they become the majority and use our democracy to create their Theocracy.

        Judaism and Islam are the greatest threats to freedom of body, mind and soul. You do not see this because you are blinkered with your hatred for Judaism.

        Focus lobro….focus.

    1. Harbinger —

      I want to ask you a simple question. Please answer honestly.

      Have you ever read the Qur’an? From beginning to end?

      If so, what translation?

      1. Lolicia –

        This man did… and he proves all Muslims should convert to Christianity.

        “The QuRAN Made Me BeCOME CHRISTIAN”

        “Mary is only woman named in Quran.”
        “Jesus lives… Mohammed does not, as he was ONLY a prophet.”
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJr8tcqvuMg

        His dad said he will kill him. Out of love.. 🙂

      2. Lolicia –

        We all know that…. I think.. 🙂

        Don’t mix the fruit.

        You did not ask about Christ and the bible…. in relation to Islam.

        I wonder if their parents threatened to kill them for dropping out.

  12. You are wrong, Lobro, to suspect the Jews of hate.
    The Jews don’t hate Islam. Look how hard they are working to depose the Tyrant and dismantle Syria, a secular state. Look how hard they worked to get the US to liberate the oppressed shias from the Butcher in Iraq and how hard they are working now to empower the sunnies to put down the bad shias in Lebanon. They want to unify Islam. Look how hard they are working (see Barbara Specter) to free Europe from its bigotry, to get the Europeans to become tolerant and multicultural and accept the millions of Muslim migrants coming their way
    The Jews don’t hate Christians either. Look how hard they are working to stimulate (in fact they invented it) interfaith dialog klatches. Look how well they get along with the millions of American Christian zionists.
    Jews are not about the hate, they are about LIght. Light unto nations.

  13. All organized-religions (every single one of them) are a stepping-stone for Lucifer to promote Satanism; and the organized-religion resembling Satanism the most is found in the Talmud. The second runner-up in resembling Satanism is Roman Catholicism. Judaism would have been in third place, but because of the counterfeit-Jews, Judaism (Talmudic Judaism) ranks as number one making the issue that much more confusing. Mohammedanism ties third-place with Judaism (non-Talmudic) in disobeying Father.

    All organized-religions are now in first place because they’ve been influenced by the counterfeit-Jews’ love of their Talmud warping The Holy Koran into The Hadith and further warping ever other organized-religion; getting people further and further away from The Lord. A man wisely once said to me: don’t let the devil in your house/mind. The Devil loves confusion. It is his forte. Organized-religions cause war and divisions among people; when religion in the true sense is supposed to bring about peace / unity.

    Jesus abolished animal sacrifices, organized-religion, and the priesthood (beginning with the Levitical priesthood) with the exception of Him, Christ Jesus, as the only King and High Priest.

    Mohammed – http://JAHTruth.net/dates.htm

    The Truth About The Hadith – http://JAHTruth.net/hadith.htm

  14. Oh dear, oh dear, oh deary me…….. Lolicia,

    Another one who is simply incapable of seeing the wood for the trees. Whether I have read the Qur’an is irrelevant to the argument that I have made that cannot AND I MEAN CANNOT be refuted. Have a read what I have written to Lobro:

    “Simply because Lobro, a shit will always be a shit, regardless how much cream you cover it in.

    Christ promoted an ideology through love and peace.
    Muhammad, on the contrary, did not.

    Ergo, the very actions of Islamists/Jihadis is condoned in the Qur’an, simply because if the man who founded the faith did so, then one is doing no wrong who does the same.
    “But there are passages within the Qur’an that speak of not killing….”
    Yes, I wholeheartedly agree but here’s the problem – if Muslims DO NOT condemn the actions of Muhammad, the wholesale slaughter and forceful conversion of non Muslims into Islam, not forgetting the enslavement of those who would not (and their deaths) then those passages are meaningless. They may have well been written upon the sea.

    They won’t, for in doing so they condemn the very faith that they preach. It will, in fact become defunct. You cannot build a religion of peace upon a mountain of violence and bloodshed. I’m simply amazed that you choose to nonchalantly dismiss this.”

    Now Lolicia, are you capable of understanding the above?
    Are you capable of seeing that there is a clear difference between the life of Muhammad and that of Jesus Christ? One promoted love and peace while the other, although writing the same in the Qur’an, just happened to hop onto his horse and wage battles across Arabia, North Africa and the middle east.
    You do not create a peaceful religion through war or do you disagree?
    What you and amazingly a large number on this website, fail to see is that you can write as much as you want of showing love and compassion to another human being, but once you take the life of another and Muhammad did, not only that but conquered many lands, your words are hollow and you are nothing more than a hypocrite. As I stated “may well have been written upon water”.

    Companies, built on blood money and wrong, today don’t tend to survive courtesy of uproar from the people. Only the mega corporations survive that buy off the media. Yet people remain silent on Islam.
    Interesting, the Roman Empire are decried for their imperialism, their conquest, their subjugation of millions under Rome. The same too can be said for Britain and its empire. In fact all European empires are decried for their imperialism. And yet people continue to remain silent on Islam and worse attack those who speak out against it, as I have been here.

    It is not the case that Muhammad merely sat in Arabia and converted people peacefully. I suppose one may forgive him and his followers were they attacked mercilessly by neighbouring peoples, but you see, it didn’t happen like that did it? It’s most certainly not the case, as with Christ, that he turn the other cheek is it? Good lord no. What Muhammad did was no different to what Rome did and every empire did before and after. The only difference being that every other empire, other than Muhammad’s didn’t have the common sense to create a religion to absolve their crimes.

    Now Lolicia, you can either shoot the messenger and continue believing the utter BS that Islam is a religion of peace or you can see it for what it really is – a religion of of over 1.5 billion people, who follow the teachings of a murdering warlord imperialist.
    I will always see it for what it is and all those Muslims, who do not condemn the actions of Muhammad, are a serious threat to the peace, stability and continuing freedom of the non Islamic lands that they reside in and are emigrating too. Those who do not see this and continue to promote Islam as a religion of peace are deluded, blinkered idiots, who obviously have no care whatsoever for the future of their people, lands and most of all their freedom to live their life as they so choose. They are no different to the twits who attack the historical revisionists and ironically, as I’ve seen on this site, most of these revisionists are also Islam lovers, captivated by the words within the Qur’an but forgetting the one main flaw within it all – it’s creator, Muhammad was not a peaceful man by any counts.

    1. Harbinger —

      I am discovering, like Lobro, that arguing with you is a thankless task and I will not attempt to do so any more. Your condescension — “Now Lolicia are you capable of understanding the above?”— is equalled only by your pigheaded ignorance and complete contempt for the rules of logic.

      You admit in the above post that you have never read the Qur’an and that you don’t need to do so because it is totally irrelevant. Why? Because you happen to know that Mohammed is an evil warlord who, unlike Christ, killed many, many people. That’s all that matters. Because it makes Mohammed a demon psychopath, unlike the gentle Jesus.

      May I ask you if your knowledge of history, from which you get your anti-Mohammed views, is as extensive as your knowledge of the Qur’an? In other words, non-existent!

      You don’t need to actually READ the Qur’an, do you Harbinger? Because, as you say, it’s irrelevant! So what history have you read exactly, hmm? Have you graduated in history? Name ONE history book you have actually read from which you derive your dubiously abundant knowledge of Mohammed’s demonic evil?!?

      Ever heard of Henry Ford’s contemptuous dismissal of history — “History is bunk.” (?)

      I suspect that your anti-Mohammed views, like your anti-Qur’an views, all come from the same bigoted source: Robert Spencer and David Horowitz! And from other similar Jewish habara agents like Jihad Watch.

      Lobro is wasting his time arguing with you.

      1. Lolicia,

        ““Now Lolicia are you capable of understanding the above?””

        Why did I state that? Could it be that no matter how many times I have made my argument, you have continued to remain indifferent to everything that I have written?

        “You admit in the above post that you have never read the Qur’an and that you don’t need to do so because it is totally irrelevant.”

        Yes, reading the Qur’an is completely irrelevant in the argument that I make, although I have read it.

        And yet again for the umpteenth time, I’ll quote to you what I have just written above to Lobro, so as to see my whole argument:

        “Lobro, what you continue to miss, regardless of how many times I tell you, over and over and over again…. There is no absolution in killing, ordering the killing of and waging war in the name of peace. You cannot call yourself a holy man/woman if you kill.
        This is important. Again, I’ll tell you why. The Qur’anic verse above (5:32) is not ascribed to Muhammad. Because he is their holy prophet his warfare and subsequent killing/ordering of killing through command is absolved. He is not judged. This is wrong. It is terribly wrong. But moreso, as I’ve told you umpteen times now – Islamist Jihadis, who commit murder in the name of Islam, fighting to instill Islam, in non Islamic lands and install sharia, ARE FOLLOWING IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THEIR PROPHET BY DOING EXACTLY WHAT HE DID – wage war and kill.

        Do you understand that? Are you capable of understanding that? Do you not see that unless Muslims condemn the warfare and conquest of their prophet, Muhammad, stating that you cannot conquer any land in the name of a religion, then you CANNOT condemn the actions of those, within Islam, who follow in his footsteps?

        THIS IS MY WHOLE ARGUMENT LOBRO. An argument that you fail to see and instead shout me down as a hater of Muslims, following Jewish propaganda…blah…blah…blah…..

        Once you order warfare; once you lead armies to conquer lands in the name of your faith you lose ALL moral highground when it comes to promoting peace and compassion to your fellow man. Therefore, all of those passages within the Qur’an that promote such, are no different to decorating a shit with cream. It will always be a shit, not matter how you try to disguise it.”

        Read the reply to Lobro, with the links. There are no ANTI-ISLAMIC ones within. All pro.

        Don’t worry Lolicia, this will be my last reply to you (on any subject) as well. All you have done, in every reply to me, is constant ignoring of my arguments, my stance upon reality and berating of in every reply. Trying to help you understand the hypocrisy within Islam and it being far from a religion of peace is like a blunt pencil – pointless.

      2. @ Harbinger

        OK, OK, keep your hair on! I apologize if I’ve hurt your feelings! Allow me to say one thing nice before I bow out and go get dinner: I think you are one of the most interesting posters here and this site would not be the same without you.

        Believe me, that is sincerely meant.

        Let me quote the epitaph on Hilaire Belloc’s grave which I think is relevant to you:

        “When I am dead I hope it may be said:
        His sins were scarlet, but his books were read.”

        It’s the same with you, Harbinger. Your sins may be scarlet, but at least your comments are read! 🙂

  15. I will apologize to Lolicia and Lobro for my conduct.
    It was rude to state “Do you/Can you understand this”.
    It was demeaning.

    That said, I have written my argument over and over and still it has been ignored. I wrote what I did out of frustration, but still, as I am, out of respect for the forum, its posters, lobro, Lolicia, Lasha and Admin I apologise. It is not how one should conduct themselves in civil debate, even if they are ignored.

  16. Eddie: “The fact of the matter is that cockroach owned Eurosavages have done far worse to the African continent, Indian subcontinent, etc, that Muslims will ever be able to do in Europe.”

    As the resident Sinologist at Darkmoon, I would be remiss not to qualify your “etc.” as being a very big et cetera, if not a very big oversight, indeed. I am, of course, referring to China.

    Please, no hate mail from White Imperialists or British Raj apologists, but it is my learned opinion that the real “jewel in the crown of the British Empire” was not India but China. India may have holy Hindu cows but China was the Holy Jewish Cash Cow!

    “Prior to 1810 Western nations had been spending 350 million Mexican silver dollars on Chinese porcelain, cotton, silks, brocades, and various grades of tea.” — Philip V. Allingham, Contributing Editor, England and China: The Opium Wars, 1839-60

    To those who think China is a pushover and think Chinese make perfect drones in the Jew World Order, here are some pertinent facts to consider and mull over:

    China only conceded “treaty ports” after losing the First Opium War in 1842 but never gave up its sovereignty. I would argue China is still resisting the kikes today and this is why it has been targeted and demonized, along with Russia. India, however, had been totally subjugated almost one hundred years earlier than China in 1757, after the Battle of Plassey.

    Ostensibly, India was no more than an inexhaustible source of slave labor and rather conveniently — but more likely by strategic design — became the manufacturing base of Jewish opium for Cash Cow China, just a stone’s throw away from Bengal, where the opium was grown and which was then ruled by the Jewish East India Company!

    Although exact figures are difficult to ascertain and verify, I estimate Sassoon and Rothschild opium sucked 2 billion dollars in today’s value from Chinese drug addicts alone during the 19th Century. If we include the war reparations from the Opium Wars and the cost the Chinese Government expended to fight drug trafficking, the figure of 3 billion dollars would be closer to the mark for just the 100 years from 1800 to 1900. Folks, keep in mind that we are talking about 3 billion dollars of real money from yesteryear (i.e. gold and silver) not the phony Jewish fiat paper money of today!

    In actuality, the kikes started lacing cigarettes with opium in order to hook the Chinese as early as the late 1600s, which makes the period of Jewish infamy and degradation in China exceeding over 300 years. The damage done by the evil jews and their white shabbos goys to the Chinese is incalculable. There is no way it can be measured accurately in monetary terms, any more than we can accurately measure the human misery and degeneracy or so-called ‘collateral damage’ done to China and Chinese families as a result of the jews’ vile opium.

    And if I am right about Fetal Opium Syndrome, the damage done was irreparable and at the DNA level. The Chinese of today are the result of 10 or more generations of an insidious dysgenics program that I’m afraid the kikes are now conducting in the West with their illicit as well as the prescription drugs. Insofar as Communism was Jewish and inasmuch as Mao was a Jew Stooge, one could make the argument that the kikes never left China and still can’t leave it alone today.

    What the kikes did to Germany and the Germans in the 20th Century, they first did to China and the Chinese in the 19th Century.

    Sadly, I have come to the conclusion that China and the Chinese, more than any other country or people, were and always will be vital and indispensable to the Jew World Order. Like the Germans, the Chinese are too industrious and too intelligent and also too tolerant and therefore too easily manipulated and too easily fooled by the scheming jews. We certainly make a big target and fat host for jew parasites. They’re coming around for greedy seconds.

    Indeed, China plays the same key role to the Jewnited Snakes of America today as it did to the Jewknighted Kingdom during the early 19th Century, and if history repeats itself, it will be disastrous for the Chinese. Today China is a Creditor Nation, albeit with junk bonds, to the Jewnited Snakes of America, just as in the early 19th Century China was a Creditor Nation to the Jewknighted Kingdom.

    Believe it or not, two hundred years ago, practically all of England’s gold and silver went to China to pay for tea, silk and porcelain made by despicable ching chong chinamen. Go figure.

  17. Seventy five years ago today the bloodiest war in history broke out when Germany launched a pre-emptive strike against the Soviet Union. Another lie exposed, namely Adolf Hitler’s responsibility for WW II. From David Irving’s website:

    REMEMBER: June 22 is the 75th anniversary of the start of BARBAROSSA, the historic operation launched by Adolf Hitler, which is now known to have thwarted the Judeo-Bolshevik plans to invade Europe. On June 13, Soviet radio broadcast an odd, panicky Tass announcement denying rumours that Germany was about to attack. Since April 1941, the Russians had moved rifle divisions and airborne corps under cover of darkness and camouflage right up to their western frontier. Eight new armies were being created, of sixty-nine tank, motorised, and rifle divisions, the entire Ural Army District and the army’s first and second Strategic Echelons (an operational military formation created only when an operation is imminent) were secretly brought westwards and hidden in forests near the frontier in Byelo-Russia and the Ukraine. Their target was western Europe.

    They had better maps of Berlin than the Germans. By June 17, one hundred and seventy Soviet divisions were secretly in place, right on the frontier; it was “the biggest troop movement by a single state in the history of civilisation.” The due date for completion of this build-up, which was irreversible and could not be undone, was July 10, 1941. By then Stalin had twenty-three armies and more than twenty independent corps in place to attack the Germans. But the Germans attacked first, on June 22, 1941. This is now confirmed by Soviet military archives seen by East German historians, but still ignored by their embarrassed colleagues in the west. Millions of airmen and soldiers died in the resulting military holocaust. By October 1941 Hitler’s strike had nearly succeeded. Then Stalin regained his composure and flung the tattered survivors of his armies at the weakened enemy, and with the help of Britain and the United States.

    http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/07/08/Stalins_warguilt.html

    Hitler’s War – a documentary made with guidance from David Irving (made before the lies of Auschwitz were exposed in the late 1980’s, early 1990’s)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2-_sHMpZOE

    1. Thanks for Peter.
      It is highly unfortunate and tragic that the Germans came up short, not because I have anything against Russians.
      All my thoughts are on eliminating Jew from geopolitical, social and economic equation, whoever shows promise in bringing this about has my full support.
      Right now it is Putin-led Russia and so they have my allegiance, there is no one else on the global scale.
      Rock throwing intifada or backwood hunters in doc martens are just floaters in the retina, no matter how many.

      1. I now view WW II as a war between Europe, led by Germany and the Jews. I have had a Russian girlfriend and Russian friends for years. My former Russian girlfriend, although proud of her country, is aware of the Jews role in creating the USSR. I showed her articles from this blog after we started talking about that.

      2. Lobro –

        “Floaters” are in the vitreous humor not “in the retina.” They are mostly debris… remnants of the hyaloid artery which dissolves at birth. It furnishes nutrients to the lens in the eye of the fetus. Their correct name is ‘muscae volitantes’ which means flittering flies.

        You learn every day, on here. But… not enough about Putin sticks with you yet. 🙂

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