The Fire Sermon of Gautama Buddha

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Everything, O Jatilas, is burning.

The eye is burning, all the senses are burning, thoughts are burning.

They are burning with the fire of lust.

There is anger, there is ignorance, there is hatred, and as long as the fire finds inflammable things upon which it can feed, so long will it burn, and there will be birth and death, decay, grief, lamentation, suffering, despair, and sorrow.

Considering this, a disciple of the Dharma will see the four noble truths and walk in the eightfold path of holiness.

He will become wary of his eye, wary of all his senses, wary of his thoughts.

He will divest himself of passion and become free.

He will be delivered from selfishness and attain the blessed state of Nirvana.


— Sourced from The Gospel of Buddha,
complied from Ancient Records by Paul Carus, p.58


NOTES  BY  LD.  ‘A disciple of the Dharma’ means, loosely, anyone who follows the Buddhist path to salvation and wishes to know the rules of right conduct and achieve self-mastery. The Four Noble Truths, or basic insights of the Buddha, which were arrived at after a long and intense period of asceticism and meditation, are as follows:

(1) The doctrine of Dukkha or Suffering, which states that all existence is suffering and that there can be no existence without suffering. (2) The doctrine of Samudaya, which states that the source of all suffering is ‘craving’ or egotistical desire. (3) The doctrine of Nirodha, which states that the elimination of Desire brings a cessation of Suffering. (4) The doctrine of Magga, which states that the elimination of Desire can be achieved systematically by following the Noble Eightfold Path.

The Noble Eightfold Path, leading to enlightenment and release from suffering, is made up of eight constituent parts: Right views, right motives, right speech, right action, right pursuits, right efforts, right mindfulness, and right contemplation. Basically, these are the spiritual disciplines common to all religions: in Christianity, the via sancta (Holy Way) or vita divina (the ‘Life Divine’).

The root problem is desire or the thirst for sentient existence: Trisna in Sanskrit or Tanha (often pronounced Tanya) in Pali. Getting down to specifics, we are talking here about the two great desires that occupy the minds of men and women throughout their lives: lust or sexual desire, on the one hand, and the thirst for wealth and power on the other. The Hindu sage Ramakrishna would often refer to these twin desires, the root of all our problems, as “Woman and Gold.” Obviously he shouldn’t have used the sexist term “Woman” when what he meant was “Lust”— a passion that darkens the mind of both sexes and can only lead to enervation and endless addiction.

Here are the famous words of St John about Trishna or Tanha, the craving for sentient existence, or lust for life.  The great Gautama, if he had been around to hear these words written several centuries after his death, would have understood and approved:

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

1 John, 2:15-17, KJV

The Fire Sermon was delivered by the Buddha to his first five disciples at Benares, roughly 500 years before the Christian era.

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58 thoughts on “The Fire Sermon of Gautama Buddha

  1. Samdaya should be samudaya (sam-ud-aya). Taṇhā (not tanya) is the correct Pāli form, derived from Sanskrit tṛṣṇā which means literally “thirst” and is akin to that word.

    The Buddhist Doctrine teaches that desires are never fulfilled. So when a person dies his unfulfilled desires drive him to yet another incarnation. There with a fresh material body he tries to fulfill his desires again untill he dies, after which he is driven to another incarnation again, and so on and so on. The key is the insight that satisfaction of desires is an illusion. The whole world is in reality a kind of addicts clinic, where the “drug” is sexual desire. Most patients in this clinic need countless incarnations to get over their addiction. The average person you meet in this world is “sick” without knowing it (the socalled “normal people”). Buddhism like other genuine spiritual disciplines is a way of escape, but by its very nature only attractive to the very few.

    1. @ Franklin Ryckaert

      Thank you for your corrections. ‘Samdaya’ was simply a typo (or careless omission) for ‘samudaya’; the ‘u’ after ‘m’ has now been inserted.

      “Tanya” was clearly wrong, but I think this was an attempt on LD’s part to give the pronunciation of the word as she heard it pronounced at an ashram in South India when she was there last (tan-YA). These Indian words can be pronounced in a variety of different ways in different parts of India. Here is one way in which “tanha” is pronounced, but this is the American way and I have never heard it pronounced like this myself:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzMX1EXOJC8

    2. @ Franklin Ryckaert

      “The whole world is in reality a kind of addicts clinic, where the “drug” is sexual desire. Most patients in this clinic need countless incarnations to get over their addiction. The average person you meet in this world is “sick” without knowing it (the socalled “normal people”). Buddhism like other genuine spiritual disciplines is a way of escape, but by its very nature only attractive to the very few.”

      As one who has dabbled much in Buddhism myself, I thank you for these highly illuminating comments. LD had much more that she wanted to say but decided this was not the place to say it. Firstly, that there are two schools of thought about the nature of reincarnation; secondly, that there are two schools of thought about the nature of nirvana.

      Most people, for example, think that ‘nirvana’ means the supreme bliss of passing from personal identity consciousness into union with the Ultimate Reality, but there is another more pessimistic school of thought that insists that nirvana simply means annihilation — the total extinction of consciousness and the entrance into Non-Being.

      1. Do I hear three Nirvanas?! I sure do!
        (and this one’s a Duesey)

        “Nirvāṇa means ending the process of materialistic life. According to Buddhist philosophy, there is only void after the completion of this material life, but Bhagavad-gītā teaches differently. Actual life begins after the completion of this material life..”

        brahma-nirvana

      2. Buddhism is a spiritual path that describes reality in psychological terms, i.e. in states of mind. Ultimate reality therefore is not described as unity with a Being (“God”) or stay in a certain place (“heaven”), but as an absolute state of mind in which the three fires of passion, aversion and ignorance are extinguished or “blown out” (the literal meaning of nirvana).
        Following quote from the Wikipedia article on Nirvana (Buddhism) is exactly right :

        “Within the Buddhist tradition, this term has commonly been interpreted as the extinction of the “three fires”, or “three poisons”, passion, (raga), aversion (dvesha) and ignorance (moha or avidyā). When these fires are extinguished, release from the cycle of rebirth (saṃsāra) is attained”.

        Because this absolute state of mind cannot be described in conventional intellectual terms, Buddhism only says what it is not (this is called the via negativa in mysticism). To the uninitiated it therefore might seem that nirvana is a wholly negative state or even annihilation. Even one of Buddha’s monks wrongly understood it in that way. He was severely rebuked by the Buddha for this misconception.

      3. @Franklin

        Would Christ “severely rebuke” one who merely seeks to learn from whom he perceives as a master?

        Unless of course the “master” is just another type of wolf in sheep’s clothing

      4. @Brownhawk

        Jesus did rebuke his disciples : Mat 16 : 23, Mark 8 : 33, Luke 9 : 54-55, Mark 16 : 14.
        Wolf in sheep’s clothing?

      5. @Franklin

        the word “severely” threw me.

        I’ll get back to you on something more important pertaining to the “Demiurge”

        stay tuned

  2. Where do the flames go, when the fires are extinguished? Because the concept of Nibbana is so difficult to comprehend in our deluded state, the Buddha spoke in negatives. The three basic injunctions of Buddhism are; Cease to do evil, do good, and purify the mind. Ceasing to do evil and doing good are relatively easy. Purifying the mind is extremely difficult. Hence the Buddhist emphasis on meditation. Once, one embarks on such a course one realises how much “junk” lurks inside the mind. It’s akin to polishing an Indian public lavatory, albeit a spiritual one. It’s a slow process divesting oneself of defilements. Some people give up. However, either in this life, or the next rebirth, one will eventually be forced to fight. You have all the time in eternity.
    Christianity used to teach meditation ( The Desert Fathers). Now it’s a rare Christian that meditates or even prays properly. Although the Eastern Orthodox have the “Jesus Prayer” and the Catholics their retreats. Evangelism is a form of mass hysteria and is totally at odds with “going into the closet to pray alone where nobody can see you.”

  3. For an impression of what the experience of nirvana really is one should read the book Nirvana by Theosophical leader G. S. Arundale (1878-1945). You can read this book free on line in : Online Library of Resources & Books on Theosophy ( under : Index of all books in this web site) at : http://www.anandgholap.net/
    Instead of “annihilation” the author experienced an immense expansion of consciousness.

    1. @Franklin

      maybe so, but I’d be wary of where theosophy may take you

      “masters of the universe” crap doncha know

  4. Does liking it so much the first time and wanting to do it again constitute a bad habit??

  5. According to Rabbi Dr. Michael Laitman the Buddhists are, in the spiritual sense, on the same level with insects, like ants and bees. I heard it on TV.

  6. @ Lasha
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    I must point out the obvious. Without sexual desire this discussion would not be happening and the Buddha would have never existed. The last time I checked, no one gets pregnant from drinking water.

    Sexual desire between a man and a woman who love each other is how loving families are made. Sexual lust, not so much since lust and love have nothing in common.

    The Heavenly Father obviously intended a loving man and woman to have sexual desire or he would not have provided the equipment for it.

    If the term “sexual lust” were used instead of “sexual desire,” it would make more sense.

    @ Franklin Ryckaert

    Assuming what you said about Buddhist Doctrine is true (I really have no idea), it’s not just the Jesus hating jews creating evil plaguing mankind regardless of the evidence, it’s ALL the endlessly recycling assholes that didn’t figure things out properly in the previous lives. This seems to be the perfect distraction and cover for the diabolical jews.

    1. “The Heavenly Father obviously intended a loving man and woman to have sexual desire or he would not have provided the equipment for it”.
      –Correct.

      But IF you believe in re-incarnation or re-birth or recycling (i.e., if you logically believe), then how long are you going to fiddle or play around with your “sexual desires” (along with other desires too)?
      100 re-births (or re-incarnations)? 500?? 1000??? More?????

      What if (IF) our Creator (or our holy Father or holy Mother) wants us to come back Home after we have enjoyed (enough) His/Her creations (maybe somewhere far away from our eternal home)? 😉

      Possible? No???

      (BTW, https://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/2016/03/20/1005-attacks-in-germany-against-jewish-genetic-engineering-centers-molech-continues-to-work-the-human-genome-sarkozy-announces-out-breeding-as-government-policy/ …just sharing)

      1. @ Crisscross

        “But IF you believe in re-incarnation or re-birth or recycling (i.e., if you logically believe), then how long are you going to fiddle or play around with your “sexual desires” (along with other desires too)?
        100 re-births (or re-incarnations)? 500?? 1000??? More?????”

        If I were of an evil nature, the answer would be, as many recycles as I could get since there is no time limitation on pursuing my lusts, no penalty for pursuing my lusts, and therefore, no reason to change my ways. I would care less what the “holy Father” or “holy Mother” wanted of me. If I were jewish, this would be the perfect system.

        Thanks, but no thanks. I do not do Dublin Dude. He used to post at Darkmoon. I had more than my fill of his writings.

    2. “…The Heavenly Father obviously intended a loving man and woman to have sexual desire or he would not have provided the equipment for it…”

      That idea is based on the (common) assumption that this world with all forms of life on it was created by a “Good God”. If that is the case, why then did that “Good God” create an animal kingdom whose life is based on mutual cannibalism ? Not to speak about the truly monstrous life forms one find in nature : scorpions, poisonous snakes, bats, all kinds of parasites, the dinosaurs of yore… If that “Good God” created the sexual instinct in man, then he is also responsible for the instinct of aggression. Merciless war among men is then just as much the intention of “God” as it is among animals.

      Gnosticism assumes that the material world is not the creation of a good God, but by an evil one, called the “Demiurg”. Human souls have “fallen” from a spiritual world into this evil material world, from which they need to be liberated. Sexual desire is the main addiction that keeps human souls chained to the material world. Of course worldly people will try to find any excuse to keep their addiction going. The majority of humanity needs countless incarnations to overcome their material addictions. For them “world confirming” religions or philosophies are therefore the natural excuse.

      “…it’s ALL the endlessly recycling assholes that didn’t figure things out properly in the previous lives. This seems to be the perfect distraction and cover for the diabolical jews…”

      That seems to be an argument of a mono-maniac. Of course there are many criminal people besides Jews. Jews are only a group of intensive criminality. Part of their success is that they manage to have other criminals work for them, but those other criminals already existed in the first place.

      1. @ Franklin Ryckaert

        “That idea is based on the (common) assumption that this world with all forms of life on it was created by a “Good God”…” Based on your subsequent questions, obviously you accept that the Creator was a “Bad God.” Congratulations! Looks like you are a prime candidate for synagogue attendance, conversion to judaism, and a beanie.

        “That seems to be an argument of a mono-maniac.” No, it is not an argument. It is a result of many years of rather intensive research. BTW, the remained of your paragraph coincides with my statement. Thanks for your support.

      2. @Ungenius

        Gnosticism is opposed to Judaism (et vice versa). The Gnostics identified the Jewish Yahweh with the Demiurg, the creator of this lower material world. Above that, in the spiritual world, they believed in a truly spiritual “Unknown God”.

  7. Firstly, Buddhism teaches the Middle Way, moderation in all things. Buddhist laity are enjoined to follow five precepts:
    1. To refrain from killing
    2. To refrain from taking anything not given.
    3. To refrain from sexual misconduct. So, Buddhism recognises the need for procreation and sex is good when performed between a loving couple, husband and wife. Only monks (bhikkus) and nuns (bhikkunis), following the 227 precepts for monks, or 311 for nuns will be defrocked for having sex. Although masturbation is forbidden, one will not be defrocked. However, one must inform one’s preceptor. Usually that will result in a severe rebuke.
    4. To refrain from false speech
    5. To refrain from taking intoxicants, to the point of heedlessness. Room for a bit of casuistry here. Some people never become heedless, some, one beer and they begin to babble.
    The Buddha compared our current state to being wounded by an arrow. Therefore speculation as to who shot the arrow, what it’s made of, what the feathers are made of, are futile and a waste of time. First and foremost one must remove the arrow and treat the wound by purifying the mind. Another way of putting it is to seek the permanent. To paraphrase the Buddha in the Udana, everything born, created, originated or formed is impermanent. Seek the Unborn, Uncreated, Unoriginated and Unformed.
    The Buddhist cosmology teaches that universes arise, exist and end. Some believe that the Jews are entities that could make no progress in a previous existence and have been sent to redeem themselves in this existence, so far without much success.

    1. “…Some believe that the Jews are entities that could make no progress in a previous existence and have been sent to redeem themselves in this existence, so far without much success…”

      That is exactly what I believe. Jews are an ancient “stubborn” group from another world, inclined to material greed and destructiveness. They were allowed to incarnate among us to mend their way. So far only a few of them have done so. The religion that they created, according to which they are “chosen” to rule over and exploit humanity, is a typical expression of their mentality.

      1. @Franklin
        @1138
        Yes, Buddhism is a very rational religion. I grew up without any religion, although I did attend a Catholic boarding school and learnt a lot about Catholicism. I first became interested in Buddhism when I was 16, but only began to study it seriously in 1977. My first preceptor was an Australian monk in the World Fellowship of Buddhists in Bangkok. He was a former colonel in the Australian army, very highly decorated I learnt later. There is absolutely no coercion in Buddhism and they do respect the teachings of other religions, except where barbaric practices cause extreme suffering to animals i.e Kosher slaughter. When you are ready to become a Buddhist you will. Although, they do acknowledge that mystics in other religions achieve nirvana. I was once reading a copy of “Dark night of the Soul” by St. John of the Cross in a library of a Buddhist Temple, I used to frequent. I was amazed to see the jottings in the book by an obviously very erudite monk saying this corresponds to such and such a state in Buddhist meditation.
        Buddhists have 4 qualities they must strive for:
        Metta, or loving kindness
        Karuna, compassion
        Mudita, translated as Sympathetic Joy. When something good happens to someone you are happy for that person. It’s the opposite of schadenfreude. A quality, alas, which I possess in abundance.
        Ubekkha, equanimity.

      2. @Brownhawk

        By the spiritual authorities of our planet, also called “the Hierarchy” by Theosophists.

    2. @FELIX

      The ‘middle way’, is total confusion, reality is about absolutes.
      What Buddhism teaches is impossible.
      Man is a fallen angel, his mindset is an absolute, irrational, unless he dies(spiritually), he cannot become a rational human being. This is the message according to the Gospel.
      Those who are caught in between(middle way) are disorientated, and as a rule are kept in mental institutions.
      For a irrational human being to adhere to the 5 precepts mentioned by FELIX is an impossibility.
      About the consciousness gurus:
      http://goo.gl/Z56eTz
      http://goo.gl/44sIe6

      The faithful witness

      1. @Duke

        From your link :

        “…It is not possible for a sinner to ‘open their eyes and discover
        the light within’, there is no light within, only darkness…”

        Countless mystics from various paths have experienced otherwise. I’m sorry to say to you, but among those were also Christian mystics. Your view of man is needlessly pessimistic.

      2. @Duke
        Thank you for those links. I must confess that although the author uses quotes from the Gospel, he failed to refer to “the kingdom of heaven is within you” or “If you would follow me, sell what you have, give it to the poor and follow me.” Please allow me to suggest some books for your edification should you desire to become a real Christian.
        Thomas A. Kempis. “The Imitation of Christ.”
        St. John of the Cross. “Dark Night of the Soul.”
        St. Theresa of Avila. Any book, but “Interior Castle” is an excellent read and most edifying.
        An excellent Christian meditation is the, Jesus Prayer used by the Hesychasts to purify themselves. It’s a Christian mantra.
        It’s very simple, one repeats it constantly, “Oh Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Have mercy upon me. A sinner.”
        Really think and mean it. If you find the mind beginning to stray, gently bring it back to the task at hand. Above all, don’t force yourself.
        BTW, The 5 precepts that I follow were given by the Buddha.

      3. @ Duke

        “Man is a fallen angel, his mindset is an absolute, irrational, unless he dies(spiritually), he cannot become a rational human being. This is the message according to the Gospel.”

        Apparently, the Gospels you read are not Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. You may have the Gospels confused with the Old Testament. What Jesus teaches in the Gospels is completely rational, uplifting, empowering, and you do not have to die to benefit from doing as Jesus teaches.

        @Franklin Ryckaert

        “Your view of man is needlessly pessimistic.”

        I agree. Far too many religions establish their control over people with pessimism and the resulting fear.

        @ Felix

        Your comment to Duke is short, sweet, and to the point along with good advice.

        Concerning the Jesus Prayer that you quoted, I’ll pass on what I have discovered. Simply put, pray once and be repeatedly thankful that what you prayed for is. Repeating a prayer is a confession of faith that the times before were not effective. As an example, say the Jesus Prayer and then say, “Thank you Heavenly Father for your love and mercy.” Being thankful is acknowledgment of every gift and can be repeated as often as desired. Jesus advised against repetitions in prayer saying that is what heathens do in Matthew 6:7.

        However, I would tell anyone that if something is working for them, just keep on.

        Although we may not agree on things, I look forward to reading your posts. You offer reasonable perspectives and come across as sincere.

      4. @ Ungenius
        Regarding “vain repetitions”, the Jesus Prayer is nothing like that, its purpose is to focus the mind (heart) on Jesus in order to purify or polish it. To remove impure thoughts if you will. This is also the purpose of Hindu and Buddhist meditation. You learn to control your mind by thinking what you want to think, not like most minds that leap from one thought to the next, like a monkey scampering through the trees. Once the heart (mind) is pure one will know “God” as stated in the Beautitudes. Many people argue about, “the meek shall inherit the earth”. Quite frankly, I don’t want to inherit the earth. Knowing “God” or becoming enlightened is enough for me. Another way of putting it, is to watch oneself and observe each thought as it occurs.
        Check out the Hesychasts. They are part of very rich tradition in the Eastern Orthodox. As is the Starets in Russia, prior to Communism. They were wandering holy men living an ascetic life. Most of them, anyway. Some would, like Rasputin, become debauched. Some of Tolstoy’s writings dwell on the subject. Beautiful writing exuding profound spirituality.

      5. Felix, on the mark! Mantra meditation, chanting, singing, praying, rosary .. These are all us modern age pipsqueaks can handle, but it’s certainly enough to receive the message.
        How could it not be?
        Universal. Nonsectarian. Personal and impersonal.

    3. @ FELIX

      ‘Please allow me to suggest some books for your edification should you desire to become a real Christian.’

      Will these books edify Christ to become ‘a real Christian’ ?

      The faithful witness(Rev 1:5)

      1. Duke.
        Yes! They help you to become pure. Remember, “Blessed are the pure in heart; for they shall KNOW GOD.”

      2. @ Duke
        “It is judgement time.”
        Indeed it is. The human race is going to reap what they have sown. I notice from a perusal of your site that you are big on Revelations. It may interest you to know that the Buddha made a similar prophecy. In Revelations you have the 4 horsemen wiping out most of humanity. The Buddha predicted the same. I will grant you Revelations goes into more detail. The current war on cash, which will no doubt lead to the Mark of the Beast. Chapter 18 is very interesting, as I believe that it refers to the Judeo-Anglo-Saxon axis of Israel (where-ever there are large agglomerations of Jews) and of course the USA and UK. The Anglo-Saxon elite are big on Freemasonry, another indication of evil. I remember as young boy in Ireland walking past a Masonic Hall and experiencing a palpable presence of evil about the place. I sensed a similar soulless evil, when I first visited Washington D.C. Later on of course, I learned the city was built in accordance Masonic designs.
        Thanks again for the links to your site. Although we may not agree with one another about religion, there is no reason for us to be uncivil.

      3. I trust [ but not so much, not really] “Catholic” Lasha and her “Catholic” family won’t find the following TOO OFF-TOPIC, TOO much of a distraction, from Buddhism [ At the beginning of Christian Holy Week, “Catholic” Lasha presents a feature piece on Buddhism. During Holy Week in the Christian world, “Catholic” Lasha promotes Buddhism and says NOT one word about Christian Holy Week, not one word on Catholic Spirituality. I don’t know why Lasha even bothers to call herself a “Catholic”. I would have more respect for her if she simply came out and honestly said she much prefers Hinduism/Buddhism, that she’s really a Hindu-Buddhist, and that she’s really NOT a Catholic. That would be honest, and I could respect that. Lasha misrepresents herself as she mendaciously labels herself a “Catholic”. She spits on Catholicism as she labels herself a “Catholic”. It’s disgusting, it’s very unfair to the Catholic Faith, AND Lasha knows it too, that’s EXACTLY why she mendaciously labels herself a “Catholic”. An underhanded way to disparage the Catholic Faith, an underhanded way to heap disdain and scorn on the Catholic Faith, she spits on the Catholic Faith as she mendaciously calls herself a “Catholic”. Videre Licet on this Holy Thursday of Holy Week in the Christian world ] :

        Today, March 24th,2016, Holy Thursday of Holy Week in the Christian world, St. Padre Pio receives The Body and Blood of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ God. “Verbum Caro Factum Est”. Holy Thursday, the day Our Lord and Savior gave us the Great Gift from Heaven, the Blessed Sacrament. Soon after, of course, He was betrayed and suffered in The Garden. Tenebrae, Darkness Fell Upon The World.

        A Hymn from the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Faith, In Celebration of and in Honor to, In Gratitude for, In Reverence to, The Blessed Sacrament of Holy Thursday. Saint Padre Pio receives Holy Communion ; The Body and Blood of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ God. Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ God is a CATHOLIC, and NOT anything else BUT A CATHOLIC. NOT a jew, NOT a hindu, NOT a moslem, NOT a buddhist, NOT a new-ager, NOT any kind of hippie, NOT a lutheran , NOT a mormon, NOT a protestant of any kind ;

        Christ is Catholic, and all the bullshit and all of the muddying of the waters in the world can NOT change Christ’s Holy Faith, the Catholic Faith, God’s Faith, the One Real True Religion in the world. A Hymn In Gratitude to THE One True and Real God :

        “Verbum Caro Factum Est” :

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nzffJsVmBk

    1. @ Felix :

      You say you grew up without religion, but your parents sent you to a Catholic boarding school. Were your parents without religion also? And if so, why would they want you to go to a CATHOLIC boarding school? If you were without religion when you were growing up, why didn’t you simply go to public schools? Or, does that make TOO much sense?

      1. TROJ
        My mother was an atheist and my Father areligious. I was never baptized. The reason I attended a Catholic boarding school was because they gave a better education than public schools. Stricter, more discipline according to my Dad. He was an ex-Fallschirmjager, so none of the liberal, namby-pamby, no corporal punishment of a public school. Most of my teachers were ex-war veterans. They weren’t afraid to smash students to the floor or bash them over the head. This was Australian education in the 60s. Nowadays, in the west, one can’t lay a finger on kids, hence a generation of cretinous morons.

    1. NO, HP, nothing is happening here. Darkmoon, which is supposedly “ANTI NWO”, always promotes those religions which can be, and are, very easily incorporated into the religion of the NWO. Buddhism and Hinduism do NOT have any Spiritual power to defeat, or even slow down, the NWO. Quite the opposite, Buddhism and Hinduism fit neatly into the NWO’s One World Religion. That’s exactly why “Catholic” Lasha promotes Buddhism and Hinduism.

      ALL the White Americans I know who call themselves Buddhists and/or Hindus are full-on-board with the NWO Communist agenda. They’re extremely Leftist, they support the whole Leftist agenda of the NWO.

      Maybe in the lands where Buddhism and Hinduism are indigenous, the religions have merit [ they’re not totally without merit ], but in the West, Buddhism and Hinduism appeals to the Leftists who are full-on-board with the NWO’s agenda. Buddhism and/or Hinduism can NOT save the West. If Darkmoon is promoting Buddhism and Hinduism as a way to save the West from the NWO , then Darkmoon is lying, and Darkmoon knows its lying [ it wouldn’t be the first time that Darkmoon is lying ]. sayin’.

      I don’t know why Lasha even bothers labeling herself a “Catholic”. NOT once has she ever presented a Darkmoon feature article on Catholic Spirituality. This Buddha piece is her 666th piece on the religions of the East. Buddhism and Hinduism , TWO religions that fit into the NWO religion perfectly, neatly, seamlessly. How the NWO ilk LERVS Buddhism and Hinduism. How “Catholic” Lasha, supposedly “ANTI-NWO”, LERVS the TWO religions the NWO ilk LERVS. How “Catholic” Lasha hates the very religion the NWO hates THE MOST, namely Catholicism. [ How Lasha LERVS IT the Catholic Church now is so usurped it’s called the “Novus Ordo” Church, the New World Order “church”. ]

      Lasha’s a “Catholic” and I’m “The Dalai Lama of Tibet”. sayin’.

      1. Joe, don’t you want to know who the Father of Jesus (and every living entity) is?
        The Supreme Person Jesus goes on and on and on about? (still is)

        “YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.”

        Job #1, Joe.
        You’re lagging..

        St. Augustine of Hippo (354-430 AD) wrote: “This, in our day, is the Christian religion, not as having been unknown in former times, but as having recently received that name.”

        Eusebius of Caesarea (circa 283-371 AD) said: “The religion of Jesus Christ is neither new nor strange.”

        Christ was at once a Koresh, a Hebrew, and a Yehudi.
        Krishna was at once a Kurus, an Abhira, and a Yadava.

        Christ had a female admirer named Mary Magdalene.
        Krishna had a female admirer named Marya Maghadalena.

        And on and on and on.. ad infinitum…..

    2. HP –

      “Something is happening here..”

      Here, too….

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjSpO2B6G4s

      SSDD… 🙂

      There’s something happening here
      What it is ain’t exactly clear
      There’s a man with a gun over there
      Telling me i got to beware

      I think it’s time we stop, children, what’s that sound
      Everybody look what’s going down

      There’s battle lines being drawn
      Nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong
      Young people speaking their minds
      Getting so much resistance from behind

      I think it’s time we stop, hey, what’s that sound
      Everybody look what’s going down

      What a field-day for the heat
      A thousand people in the street
      Singing songs and carrying signs
      Mostly say, hooray for our side

      It’s time we stop, hey, what’s that sound
      Everybody look what’s going down

      Paranoia strikes deep
      Into your life it will creep
      It starts when you’re always afraid
      You step out of line, the man come and take you away

      1. @ Pat

        Welcome back. Glad it was only a computer virus. I was afraid that the computer virus might have been a cover story for you choking while eating your yard. 🙂

      2. Ungenius –

        HA!!

        Thanks. All good here. Crawled around yard and garden…. even pruned the crepe myrtle trees back to 6 ft high again while leaning on our wooden fence. Weather great for it. They sprouted anew three days later.

        Built some small tables and plaques in my woodworking shop. Great fun. I’m addicted to table saws and routers. Veritable ‘Wood-Butcher’…. as they say…. I know I’m alive when I have splinters and scrapes and bruises. Luvit…

        Actually, I have choked many times eating the yard…. especially on the raw chickweed. I just shake off the bugs as best I can and enjoy the graze. 🙂

      3. Pat, good show!
        Spring causes us northerners a little giddiness.
        One of few things remaining, which does.
        I reckon the Buddhists (and I) call that progress!

  8. A favorite question of mine, “Would you want to do this again; same movie, but different sets and actors?”

    I am astonished by how many people respond positively: “Oh yes, I’d love to live life over again.”

    “You mean with all the pain and suffering, you would want to go though this again? Birth, the pain, agony, and suffering of growing up, then more so growing old and then death once again?”

    “Well I tend to think of the good times.”

    “And forget the bad?” What good times? Those times you got what you wanted? And how long did the pleasure last before you were off seeking yet another new pleasure?

    Somehow the mind creates a disconnect that masks life’s suffering. Most only remember the “good times,” unless of course there is overwhelming trauma involved, like actually believing you saw Aunt Esther being marched off to the gazzzzz chamber.

    I had a friend who recently ended another life cycle. He was a Christian who “had his beliefs.” He was so attached to this life, it’s hard to believe he ever left. He was beset with all the frivolous, trivial pursuits life dangles in front of the unsuspecting soul; job, money, fame, the adoration of others, and various vices. Worse, he blamed everybody else for his problems. He was never at fault and almost everyone he was in contact with rained on his parade. He reminded me of that Al Capp character Joe Btfsplk with the dark cloud over his head, but his only jinxing came back upon his own head.

    My friend saw himself as the benighted white knight, charging on against all odds in the name of truth, justice, and the American way. Along the way he had lost various body parts, much like a worn out Chevy. I told him “Don’t worry, you’ll be back soon enough to try again.” But no, he was going to heaven to spend eternity with Jesus. It’s amazing how many who claim to love life, steadfastly refuse to believe it’s a repeat process.

    The most liberating moment in life is when one loses everything. Hopefully this occurs before the moment of death. When one washes up on the beach like a Gulliver, with nothing but what was taken from the shipwreck, they suddenly see the world in a far different perspective. The efforts of men seem somehow lilliputian in scale. The perspective comes from realizing where one truly stands in this universe.

    I had a few desires that brought me back and I finished fulfilling those desires cut short in a previous life. I have a few things left to do, but I am methodically resolving what remains to be resolved. I cannot think of anything that would bring me back for another go around, but of course one can never be certain.

    Forgiveness is a critical key to release. Forgive others, those whom you believe have wronged you. After all, it wasn’t personal, you just happened to be there in the way when it happened.

    And forgive yourself for being such an egoistical, self-serving jerk who spent life chasing self-serving pursuits .

    Above all, let go. Let go of everything this world has to offer. Grabbing the brass ring most assuredly means another ride on the Merry-go-round.

    It is said that earth is but one school for the soul, there are others, scant few, but others. Hopefully as one moves up the spiral of life, a transfer to a higher school will be in order. Perhaps there is one where the inhabitants act more like humans than animals.

    1. @ Arch Stanton

      Well stated and written, indeed. This particular post on reincarnation, like so many of your posts, is both serious and humorous. I am reminded of Zhuangzi’s dictate: “To the most trivial actions, attach the devotion and mindfulness of a hundred monks. To matters of life and death, attach a sense of humor.” — Zhūangzi (庄子 or 莊子 Chinese philosopher, c. 369 BC – c. 286 BC)

      Another favorite Zhuangzi quotation of mine is:

      “Once upon a time, I, Chuang Chou, dreamt I was a butterfly, fluttering hither and thither, a veritable butterfly, enjoying itself to the full of its bent, and not knowing it was Chuang Chou. Suddenly I awoke, and came to myself, the veritable Chuang Chou. Now I do not know whether it was then I dreamt I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly dreaming I am a man. Between me and the butterfly there must be a difference. This is an instance of transformation”

      Zhuangzi espoused a holistic philosophy of life, encouraging disengagement from the artificialities of socialization, and cultivation of our natural “ancestral” potencies and skills, in order to live a simple and natural, but full and flourishing life. He was critical of our ordinary categorizations and evaluations, noting the multiplicity of different modes of understanding between different creatures, cultures, and philosophical schools, and the lack of an independent means of making a comparative evaluation. He advocated a mode of understanding that is not committed to a fixed system, but is fluid and flexible, and that maintains a provisional, pragmatic attitude towards the applicability of these categories and evaluations. (Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

    2. @ Arch Stanton

      “Forgiveness is a critical key to release. Forgive others, those whom you believe have wronged you. After all, it wasn’t personal, you just happened to be there in the way when it happened.

      And forgive yourself for being such an egoistical, self-serving jerk who spent life chasing self-serving pursuits.

      Above all, let go. Let go of everything this world has to offer. Grabbing the brass ring most assuredly means another ride on the Merry-go-round.”

      Good advice whether a person believes in reincarnation or not.

    3. Arch –

      Good going there.

      Next trip I’ll avoid submarines and slaloms…. too much hospital time.

  9. About 50 years ago I was introduced to both sex and the 4 noble truths.
    For decades I could not even get past the first noble truth.
    I wondered why my lover wanted to escape the wheel of rebirth. Life was a bitch at times but also had moments of pure bliss.
    When I heard finally that some substitute the word ‘unsatisfactory’ for ‘suffering’ then I understood.
    Please also see James chapter 4, which begins “Where do wars and fights come from among you? Do they not come from your own desires for pleasure….”

    1. S.W.
      “When I heard that some substitute the word ‘unsatisfactory’….”
      You’ve got it. Think why things are unsatisfactory. They are impermanent. Even those who experience the happiest of lives must eventually leave it.

  10. Payment Is Due

    Home in the valley
    Home in the city
    Home isn’t pretty
    Ain’t no home for me

    Home in the darkness
    Home on the highway
    Home isn’t my way
    Home will never be

    Burn out the day
    Burn out the night
    I can’t see no reason to put up a fight
    I’m living for giving the devil his due

    And I’m burning, I’m burning, I’m burning for you

    Time is the essence
    Time is the season
    Time ain’t no reason
    Got no time to slow

    Time everlasting
    Time to play B-sides
    Time ain’t on my side
    Time I’ll never know

    Burn out the day
    Burn out the night
    I’m not the one to tell you what’s wrong or what’s right
    I’ve seen suns that were freezin’ and lives that were through

    Well I’m burning, I’m burning, I’m burning for you

    Burn out the day
    Burn out the night
    I can’t see no reason to put up a fight
    I’m living for giving the devil his due.

    And I’m burning, I’m burning, I’m burning for you

    All Paid & Free To Go

    Blue Oyster Cult / Burnin For You

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