PART 2 : THE MAKING OF A PEDOPHILE
An Online Conversation with ‘Don’,
a Self-Confessed Pedophile
Edited by Lasha Darkmoon
JonBenét Ramsay . . . beauty queen groomed for pedophilia.
Strangled to death on Christmas Day 1996, age 6.
38 sex offenders were living within a 2-mile radius of her house.
Her murderer was never found.
NOTE : In Part 1, which serves as an introduction to this interview, we revealed that self-confessed pedophile ‘Don’ was interviewed online in our Comments section almost three years ago by a poster called “Balthazar”. At that time, at any rate, the interviewer bore the user name “Balthazar” and claimed to be a clinical psychologist. This person gave his full permission to publish the interview below on condition that we used his real name, “Dr David Green”. (For more details, see Part 1).
We should like to take this opportunity to warn readers that there is some upsetting material here, both in the sexual revelations that follow and in the two videos produced by the late Dr William Pierce that serve as useful commentaries and codas to the discussion, one video at the end of Part 2 and the other at the end of Part 3.
Discretion is advised and those of a delicate disposition should perhaps avoid reading the articles. (LD)
DON: Not all pedophiles who are attracted to children want to hurt them. Being attracted to someone is one thing, meaning harm towards them is something totally different.
From personal experience, I have been around kids who have attempted to touch me and play with me in ways that are NOT appropriate. I’ll give an example. I have a female friend who has a daughter who attempted to sit on my face one day while we were play wrestling. She is 6-years old. Her mom saw it and became angry and told her that she did not like that behavior. She has attempted to sit on my face more than once. She actually tries to put her crotch in my face. Not only that, she tries to raise up my shirt at times. She loves to sit on my lap for some reason … and while on my lap she will attempt to lick my ears or my neck.
I think that vaginal or anal sex with young children is wrong and should never ever be legalized, because it could cause harm to their body. But other forms of sex or intimacy such as oral, masturbation, kissing etc. are not mentally or physically harmful so long as it is not forced or coerced onto the child.
DR DAVID GREEN: Since you don’t think mutual masturbation or oral sex with a child is harmful in any way, assuming that the child is happy to go along with it, may I ask if you have ever had this experience yourself with a child?
DON: Honestly, I think young girls are GORGEOUS. But I have NEVER touched a child in any sexual way. I am attracted to ALL females of all ages. Shirley Bassey is 75 years old and I think she is hot and I would date her without even thinking about it and I am only in my early 30s … so with that being said …I can easily get my needs fulfilled by an adult woman without having to mess with children. But I admit … I am attracted to them.
I have had many chances to mess with children, but I choose not to do so. I respect their bodies. So even though I look, I would not cross the line.
When I have had fantasies about young girls, it is never penetration sex, like when I fantasize about adult women. I only fantasize about kissing on them, or playing in their hair, rubbing and other intimate things that do not involve penetration of any sort. I have never thought about hurting them. Penetration sex with someone so small is not a turn on to me at all.
I do believe there are other ways that adults and youngsters can enjoy intimacy and affection with one another… such as kissing, cuddling, masturbation and oral sex.
This particular little girl [6-year-old daughter of a female friend] does things that are hard to ignore. Like one day she was sitting on my lap while I was playing my video game … and she started playing with herself. I have never witnessed a kid masturbating… so I didn’t really know what she was doing at first.
At first I thought she was scratching an itch … but after a while she started moving her hands faster … I didn’t know how to handle the situation … I didn’t know if I should tell her to stop or what … I walked out of the room and I went and splashed water on my face because I was stunned by what I saw. She even left a wet spot on my pants leg because she had a dress on.
Honestly, I think young girls are gorgeous … I do believe there are other ways that adults and youngsters can enjoy intimacy and affection with one another… such as kissing, cuddling, masturbation and oral sex.
I know that sounds crazy that a 6-year-old can make a 30-plus-year-old man feel uncomfortable. But I have never been in a situation like that before. Ever since that day I have two chairs in my game room so that she doesn’t have a reason to sit on my lap … but sometimes she will sit on my leg when I have my feet propped up on the foot stool as I sit in my chair and she will rock back and forth…
I would never do anything to her. I love her to the point that I would give my life for her. She shows me more attention than any person in my life, so she means the world to me. I love her more than I love myself.
Yes, it is a bit of a turn on, but I love her too much to do anything like that… I can take my small urge and direct it in a more positive way…. Maybe I do have a pedophile mind … and yes it does get to me … but when you love someone, it’s easier to resist the urge…. No amount of pleasure is worth losing the respect she has for me.
DR DAVID GREEN: Well, you are certainly very candid in your disclosures and I read what you have to say with great interest. I am a clinical psychologist, but I can’t say I’ve come across many individuals like you before. You admit to having pedophile tendencies, but I think you would hesitate to call yourself a “pedophile” because of the derogatory connotations attached to that term.
Okay, so I am going to ask you a few questions now in the hope that your replies will be honest and truthful. I urge you to tell the truth because, let’s face it, it’s a complete waste of your time to enter into conversation with me otherwise. I ask these questions because I am genuinely interested as a psychologist. If you can be truthful, please answer. But please, I urge you, don’t lie. That would be a complete waste of your time as well as mine.
Feel free to ignore any question you consider needlessly intrusive or over-personal.
DON: You’re welcome … I see no sense in lying …
DR DAVID GREEN: Right. Here’s Question 1. If you could have non-penetrative sex with a beautiful little girl, aged 9 or less — kissing, mutual masturbation, oral sex — or full penetrative sex with a beautiful adult woman, which would you prefer to have? Imagine a world in which both forms of sex are equally legal.
DON: Well, I would prefer the beautiful little girl to the adult woman.
DR DAVID GREEN: Question 2. What age range attracts you in a little girl? In other words, when do they become too old to turn you on sexually in the same way? Also, what age would you regard as too young?
DON: My favorite age range is 5 to 11. As far as too young … hmmm … I don’t start to feel an attraction for little girls until they are around 5-years-old.
DR DAVID GREEN: Question 3. Since you think sexual fantasies about little girls are permissible, providing the child is never penetrated, have you ever masturbated in private over the mental image of a little girl, including the 6-year-old girl you say you love so much?
DON: Yes, I have. I regularly think of little girls when I masturbate, including the one I love.
DR DAVID GREEN: Question 4. If it ever became legal for underage children to offer their sexual services to adults in state-regulated “houses of pleasure”, i.e., non-penetrative sex involving no more than heavy petting and mutual masturbation, would you yourself welcome such an innovation and would you consider visiting such a temple of Adult-Child Love?
DON: My answer is : Yes, I would welcome such an innovation. And yes, I would definitely visit [such “houses of pleasure”, i.e., child brothels].
DR DAVID GREEN: Thank you for these answers. I believe you are telling the truth. I would like to ask you a few more questions, so hang on and don’t go away. I’ll write again tomorrow when I have some more time.
DON : You’re welcome, there’s no point lying . . .
Pretty 6-year-old girl . . . the same age as Don’s little “girlfriend”.
6-year-old Jersey Bridgeman, from Arkansas, was found raped and murdered a few doors from her mother’s home in November 2012. (See here). Question: Why does a 6-year-old girl need to wear lipstick?
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DON (next day) : To be honest I was kind of shocked that you asked so many questions. When you first started asking me questions, I could sense that you had a high interest level about people who are attracted to children. That’s why I opened up the way I did.
I never really told anyone that I have those thoughts. So it was kind of nice to be able to open my thoughts for a change. So I guess I should be thanking you for taking the time to read what I had to say. It’s not like I can go and tell all of this to my family and friends. I have a rather large circle of people in my life because I am well liked.
I also have a daughter with whom I have a great relationship … many friends and even a girlfriend. None would ever suspect I am a “pedophile”! ☺
DR DAVID GREEN: Let me explain that, as a clinical psychologist, I am intensely interested in ALL the “paraphilias”, i.e., sexual aberrations, and that pedophilia is simply one of them.
I think you will admit, if you are honest, that your pedophilia is a sexual addiction and it is one that has grown over the years and is now fully rooted and become part of your character and identity. In your case, I perceive no desire to change or shake off your addiction. You appear to like being what you are. You experience no guilt. You don’t say with a sigh, “Oh, if only I could be normal!”
You have actually admitted that, if given the choice, you would rather have a sexual encounter with a beautiful 9-year-old girl than with a beautiful adult woman. That admission itself, together with the admission that you actually masturbate to mental (or even photographic) images of little girls, makes you a full-fledged pedophile—not just a guy with “pedophile tendencies” whose primary interest is adult women.
You will notice that my tone is completely non-judgemental. This does not mean that I sympathize with pedophilia or think it’s a good thing. Frankly, I would be horrified if child brothels were ever legalized.
Obviously there is a wide range of pedophile activity. At one end of the spectrum, I believe, you will find men who are sexually attracted to children only on a very occasional basis but who are primarily interested in adult women. They have had sex with adult women and masturbated over them, but they have never done this with children and they would feel guilty about doing that.
Confusing the issue is the fact that puberty is now being reached at a far earlier age than in past times; even girls of 8-9 are now having babies or abortions. In a state of nature, among animals, any female capable of reproduction becomes a valid sexual object. Animals don’t discriminate over age differentials or quibble about the age of consent!
In the Middle Ages, child brides were common and a girl of 12 could find herself legally married to a man in his seventies. The “age of consent” is arbitrary and no one knows where to place it. This is all very confusing.
I will tell you this in advance: according to my theories, in nine cases out of ten all these aberrations (including homosexuality) have an environmental cause and are not genetic—though in the case of homosexuality, a small minority are definitely born that way and are in no way to blame for their orientation, though maybe they are for their lifestyles. [Phrase in italics added later at the request of Dr David Green. — Ed]. I do not think you were born a pedophile, I think you became one at some stage. It gradually grew on you, I believe, until one day you became aware of it.
Let me know if I am correct in this supposition.
My next question follows from the above: Can you explain the circumstances that made you evolve into a pedophile?
I am assuming that there was once a time when you were not a pedophile, when you were not conscious of any sexual desire for children. But of course I could be wrong.
DON: I knew that would be your next question. Okay, I’ll do my best to answer it…
LD : If you can spare a few extra minutes, please watch this important video produced by the late Dr William Pierce about the grooming and sexual corruption of children. This will prepare you for the chilling revelations to come in Part 3 : Child Porn and the Sexualization of Children.