The Talmud Controversy: A Storm in a Teacup

As an amusing diversion, please consider this brief exchange of emails between Lasha Darkmoon and Dr Michael Hoffman, an erudite revisionist expert on the Talmud in the same tradition as the scholarly Elizabeth Dilling. The emails were forwarded to me by LD and I decided to publish them unedited. The pictures have been added later. — Editor John Scott Montecristo  

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Email from Lasha Darkmoon to Dr Michael Hoffman @ 11.42 am

Dear Dr Michael Hoffman,

We have been in touch briefly in the past. I value your work.  Please take a quick look at the various comments below published on my website in which your name is mentioned as someone who has made an exhaustive study of the Talmud. The first comment is by me, refuting the suggestion that all the Talmud quotes provided by Elizabeth Dilling and yourself are “fakes” and that the actual Talmud is a totally innocuous work of Jewish spirituality.

The second comment is a response from ‘Rousso’ who purports to be a non-Jewish Russian who says he has read the Talmud in the original Hebrew (Soncino edition) and that all the Talmud citations you and Elizabeth Dilling provide in your exhaustive works are either fabrications or mistranslations.

If you have the time, Michael, please write me your email response to these ridiculous allegations that you and Dilling are both frauds and I will post this exchange of comments on my website as a feature article. Alternatively, you could check out the comments on my website and make a direct response HERE.

Sincere best wishes,

Lasha Darkmoon

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LD  (Lasha Darkmoon)  :

@ Rousso

[TO LOBRO] : “You perhaps read a couple of quotes [from the Talmud] on some sites, but not the real thing. I read it. I read almost all of it. I compiled a brochure, 60 pages of Talmud. You can trust me or not but most of these quotations that can be found around the Net are either fake or misreported.”

At my request, Lobro visited Toronto Central Library a couple of years ago and put in a request for the Soncino Edition of the Talmud in 30 volumes. This was to verify internet quotations. He spent several hours poring over the volumes and even photographed several pages. So I don’t think this comment of yours would appeal to Lobro: “You perhaps read a couple of [Talmud] quotes on some sites, but not the real thing … You can trust me or not but most of these quotations that can be found around the Net are either fake or misreported.”

Ask Pat to tell you what Elizabeth Dilling did during a court case in which she wheeled a trolley into the courthouse containing 20-30 volumes of the Talmud. She would hardly have done this if all the quotes in the volumes had been fakes, as you say they are.

Here are some verified Talmud quotations. Please let us know if you think these are are all fakes. They are all apparently found in the Soncino Edition:

(1) “It is permitted for Jews to cheat Gentiles. All lies are good.” (2) “If a Jew has stolen something from a Gentile and the Gentile discovers it and demands it back, the Jew should simply deny it all. The Jewish court will stand by the Jew.” (3) “A Jew need not pay a gentile the wages owed him for work.” (4) “When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.” (5) “Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth. Gentiles prefer sex with cows.” (6) “Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.” (7) “A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old … When a grown-up man has intercourse with a litte girl it is nothing.” (8) “A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated … A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl.” (9) “A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.” (10) “When the Messiah comes, every Jew will have 2800 slaves.” (11) “Jesus is in hell, being boiled in hot excrement.” (12) “If a Jew is tempted to do evil, he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.”

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(For all these quotes and more, see Elizabeth Dilling’s The Jewish Religion: Its Influence Today. (Formerly titled “The Plot Against Christianity”). See also Michael Hoffman’s monumental 1100-page Judaism Discovered: A Study of the Anti-Biblical Religion of Racism, Self-Worship, Superstition and Deceit.)

RESPONSE FROM ‘ROUSSO’:

LD,

You don’t need to go to libraries to read the Talmud. It is accessible on the Internet. Full Soncino Edition.

The commentaries are omitted, but all tractates are complete.

Perhaps Lobro spent several hours poring over the volumes, and even photographed several pages. But I spent several hundred hours poring over the text, and even compared the translation with the original.

So I don’t know if this will appeal to Lobro, but I corroborate the assertion that these quotations are for the most part bullshit. False or exaggerated statements made to impress the reader rather than inform.

Elizabeth Dilling was a liar, a fascist and a crackpot bitch. I open her book on a random page and I am reading a lie. She was a monomaniac, a propaganda artist and a trickster, albeit a talented one. But a fraud it is.

I can expand this comment and refute all these fake quotations.

MY RESPONSE TO ‘ROUSSO’ :

@ Rousso

To LD: “You don’t need to go to libraries to read the Talmud. It is accessible on the Internet. Full Soncino Edition. The commentaries are omitted, but all tractates are complete.”

You fail to understand me. I am well aware that the Talmud exists in an online edition. If I asked Lobro to check out the Soncino edition in a major reference library, it is precisely because the internet is an unreliable source of information and mistrusted by many. It is for this reason that an online edition of the Talmud — produced by Jews whose veracity cannot always be trusted — needs to be checked for accuracy by consulting the actual volumes of the Talmud that are available for inspection in a public library. (See picture HERE)

All the Talmud quotations I provided in my previous long post are to be found in the actual Soncino edition of the Talmud. That’s all that matters. These quotations are not mistranslations or fabrications, as you astonishingly assert.

If you say that these quotations are mistranslations or fabrications, you simply have to be lying.


MY RESPONSE CONTINUED IN A FURTHER COMMENT:

@ Rousso

Elizabeth Dilling was a liar, a fascist and a crackpot bitch. I open her book on a random page and I am reading a lie. She was a monomaniac, a propaganda artist and a trickster, albeit a talented one. But a fraud it is.

I can expand this comment and refute all these fake quotations.

If Elizabeth Dilling is a liar, a fraud, a trickster, a crackpot, and a monomaniacal propagandist who has deliberately mistranslated or fabricated quotations from the Talmud in order to disparage the Talmud and demonize the Jews, then the same charges would obviously apply to Dr Michael Hoffman who has followed in Elizabeth Dilling’s footsteps and written a magisterial 1100-page expose on the Talmud and its evils Judaism Discovered: A Study of the Anti-Biblical Religion of Racism, Self-Worship, Superstition and Deceit.

Please confirm that the 12 Talmud quotes provided in my comment above, all to be found in the voluminous writings of Elizabeth Dilling and Michael Hoffman, are fakes, fabrications and frauds. Are we to mistrust our own eyes if we have actually checked out the quotations in a public library, as Lobro has, and seen for ourselves that the damning quotations are all there?

Are these two infamous quotations from the Talmud “fake quotations” or are they actually to be found in the Talmud:

(1) “Jesus is in hell, being boiled in hot excrement.” (2) “If a Jew is tempted to do evil, he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.”

You say, “I can expand this comment and refute all these fake quotations.” I invite you to do so.


Email response from Dr Michael Hoffman @ 1.14 pm 

Dear Lasha Darkmoonhoffman2

Thank you for your letter.

I have a policy of not responding to Internet trolls. They are time-wasting exercises.

Anyone who writes like this is one such troll: “Elizabeth Dilling was a liar, a fascist and a crackpot bitch.”

Please see my blog: http://talmudical.blogspot.com

Sincerely,

Michael Hoffman

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59 thoughts on “The Talmud Controversy: A Storm in a Teacup

  1. According to the saying audiatur et altera pars let’s listen for a change what Jewish rabbis have to say about the accusations of immorality in the Talmud. On the website The Real Truth about the Talmud ( talmud.faithweb.com/) there is an answer to the accusation that the Talmud incites to “kill the best of the gentiles” and that sex with a three year old child is allowed. It appears that the relevant passages are taken out of context. The “killing the best of the gentiles” refers to the Egyptians who pursued the Israelites in the Exodus story, while the passage about sex with a three year old is about dowry for virgins. If a girl of three years old has been sexually violated she is still considered to be a virgin and thus entitled to a higher dowry at marriage. This rule is about dowries, not about the permission to have sex with little children. See for yourself at talmud.faithweb.com/ :

    “Killing Gentiles”.
    “The Talmud does not permit sex with a three year old”.

    Now these are only two examples. I cannot vouch for the rest of the Talmud, but I think a serious discussion should also include the defense of the opponent.

    1. Franklin,

      This is the oldest trick in the book: to say, “I have been quoted out of context.” This is what the Talmudists can be expected to say in defense of their evil ideas. If the two example you cite were the only examples where the lovable Chosen Ones had been “quoted out of context”, we could perhaps make allowances for them. But it gets a bit silly, doesn’t it, when almost every outrageous statement they have made has to be excused on the grounds that it has been “quoted out of context”.

      I am sure your argument that we should allow the Jews the option of defending themselves is a noble impulse on your part. Congratulations for showing such tolerance and wisdom. However, allow us, too, the option of rejecting the Jews’s specious arguments as unconvincing and rooted in their infinite capacity for lying.

      Since when is it possible to give any credence to the reciters of the Kol Nidre prayer?

      1. @Sardonicus: Why do you reject out of hand the possibility that some of these quotes are taken out of context?
        First of all quotes by definition are FRAGMENTS and therefore out of context. Can’t be avoided.
        Second, this quote, for example:
        “(2) “If a Jew is tempted to do evil, he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.”
        does not strike me as complete at all and I am saying this based on empirical observation and common sense. It seems obvious to me that this behavior is enjoined upon the Jews only before and until they are in power.

    2. Apart from this, there is the side issue: is Rousso a troll?

      Well, readers must decide that question for themselves.

      It seems to me that anyone who defends the Talmud so vigorously as Rousso does, in a way that would delight any Jew and warm the hearts of the world’s philosemites, has got to be a Jewish or shabbos goy troll.

      Rousso’s angry denunciation of Elizabeth Dilling as “a liar, a fascist and a crackpot bitch” has not impressed Talmud expert Dr Michael Hoffman. Dr Hoffman has dismissed Rousso as an “internet troll” in a few crisp words. I am behind Dr Hoffman 100 per cent in his assessment of Rousso.

      If anyone has a word to say in Rousso’s defense, I challenge that person to prove Dr Hoffman wrong.

      1. Rousso has much to say that is of genuine interest. His views on the Kabbalah and the false Jewish messiah Sabbatai Zevi have been fascinating and given us an insight into the darker workings of the Jewish mind. All this has had an appeal to certain posters on this site, myself included, who have a taste for the esoteric.

        However, this does not prevent me from seeing that Rousso is a hasbara agent. A troll if ever there was one. Those who have been attacked by Rousso have seen through him right from the beginning and have managed to resist his seductive charms. I refer to Sardonicus, Pat, Araidnatheo, Peter, Flopot, Bradley Arnold and a few others.

        The only ones here who will put in a good word for Rousso are the ones whose defenses have been breached by flattery. These are the ones who have encouraged Rousso by entering into dialogue with him, egging him on, and hanging onto his words of “wisdom” — all in exchange for the grossest flattery.

        Flattery has disabled their jewdars. I feel so sorry for these individuals who need flattery more than truth. I won’t name them lest they attack me.

        The important thing is that they knew who they are, and they also know that we know who they are. 🙂

      2. If you call a person a “liar” you will have to quote him/her and demonstrate that it is a lie.

        As for the argument “taken out of context” often used falsely, yes of course that happens, but that doesn’t mean it couldn’t be right. In the two examples I gave, it was indeed taken out of context. As I said, I cannot vouch for the rest of the Talmud, but each statement has to be judged in the context. The Talmud is a kind of law book, one has to investigate for what purpose those laws are made.

      3. Franklin,

        You are a reasonable person, but those particular accounts are more or less correct. Though, “kill the best of the gentiles” refers to the combat tactics at war, but it is indeed said in this book that a girl might be betrothed by intercourse. It is said more than once.

        Our Rabbis taught: It is related of Justinia the daughter of Aseverus son of Antonius that she once appeared before Rabbi. “Master,” she said to him, “at what age may a woman marry?” “At the age of three years and one day,” he told her. “And at what age is she capable of conception?” “At the age of twelve years and one day,” he replied.

        Madame,

        I haven’t flattered no one here. Please, can I see an example of that?

      4. @ Rousso

        Franklin,

        You are a reasonable person…

        Madame,

        I haven’t flattered no one here. Please, can I see an example of that?

        How about, “Franklin, you are a reasonable person…”?!?

        (One of many examples of your fawning flatteries).

        Don’t you think Franklin will now glow with pleasure at being complimented on his “reasonableness” and will respond to you with similar kind words of welcome?

        FRANKLIN: “Hey, thanks Rousso! Few people like to admit I am a reasonable person, but I’m delighted to see that you have identified one of my principal virtues!”

        See what I mean?

        Flattery, flattery! How many more posters here will you seduce with your flattering words? Soon, they’ll all be shouting, “Hey, let’s have more Russian Jew trolls! This guy really know how to smother you with praise!”

        Little do they know that flattery is one of the techniques Jews are taught by their Mamas from the cradle onward. It’s how they make their way in the world. Flattery and bribes are the carrots they use to get their way in the world, threats and blackmail are their sticks.

      5. I don’t know where you are from, Madame, but certainly not from Russia. It isn’t flattery in my world, to call a reasonable person a reasonable person. What kind of ego should a man have to glow with pleasure at being complimented like this?

    3. Franklin, Franklin, Franklin … when will you learn to steer through these toxic waters of Kol Nidre.

      The Real Truth about the Talmud ( talmud.faithweb.com/) there is an answer to the accusation that the Talmud incites to “kill the best of the gentiles” and that sex with a three year old child is allowed.

      So, trust Jew on Talmud, right?
      Well, how about that Yossi Gurvitz video that I linked maybe dozen times and refuse to do again, it is becoming downright offensive to me.
      Lasha devoted an entire article to it, where Gurvits, the undisputed authority on Talmud, having studied it in an Israeli rabbinical academy (yeshiva) as a budding rabbi, he up and walked out on them in disgust, says that yes indeed, a rabbi can rape a 3 year old virgin (plus a day, wow, otherwise she is underage or what) without incurring a penalty (it is supposed to heal anyway like an accidental poke of finger in the eye, a few tears and done).
      So now Jew @Talmud.com takes precedence in the credibility stakes.
      i also believe in giving the opponent an even break, which is why i never attacked Rousso and maybe never will, though he may be a jew.
      Let them speak their bit in peace and examine the evidence, does it conform to known facts, does it run into internal contradictions, logical inconsistencies?
      If not, set it aside, the truth will out.
      And maybe they ARE speaking the truth, you don’t know until you know.
      But that doesn’t mean that i will take Jew @Talmud.com as the ultimate authority on a subject very damning to Jew @Talmud.com.
      That is not an act of heroic impartiality, standing up for the bullied underdog.

  2. @ Franklin Ryckaert

    If you call a person a “liar” you will have to quote him/her and demonstrate that it is a lie.

    Absoloutely! I couldn’t agree with you more. So listen carefully to what ‘Rousso’ says about Elizabeth Dilling:

    Elizabeth Dilling was a liar, a fascist and a crackpot bitch. I open her book on a random page and I am reading a lie. She was a monomaniac, a propaganda artist and a trickster, albeit a talented one. But a fraud it is.

    Right. So it’s now up to Rousso to prove that Elizabeth Dilling is lying.

    Ball’s in your court, Rousso.

  3. Madam,

    The only ones here who will put in a good word for Rousso are the ones whose defenses have been breached by flattery. These are the ones who have encouraged Rousso by entering into dialogue with him, egging him on, and hanging onto his words of “wisdom” — all in exchange for the grossest flattery.

    Flattery has disabled their jewdars. I feel so sorry for these individuals who need flattery more than truth. I won’t name them lest they attack me.

    The important thing is that they knew who they are, and they also know that we know who they are. (smiley)

    Recursive words of defense on behalf of those who are either dead or too brain-dead to defend themselves directly.
    Let me put in a word of defense on behalf of the tarred and feathered quisling.
    First and foremost, who was it that first put in a word of defense on behalf of Elizabeth Dilling (note the timestamp of September 13, 9:38 am, just 2 hours after Rousso’s original calumny of the dead lady – 7:30 am)
    No one else even spotted the offending line, “a liar, a fascist and a crackpot bitch“.
    The cravenly appeaser did not just express outrage that Mrs Dilling should be spoken of in this tone, which is easy enough.
    The said traitor, though bowled over by cheap flattery nevertheless managed to PROVE that Mrs Dilling was a highly trustworthy source, her integrity beyond reproach as Pat recognized on the spot, namely, that the highly antagonistic US court, presided by a Jew judge could find no fault in her sworn exhibits supporting her statements.
    What more could you ask for, Madame Butterfly?
    Other brave souls, though quick to heap charges of trollery upon Rousso nevertheless did not find time to look up the easily verifiable truth.
    First things, first – of course, it depends on your prioritizing scheme, does the shrill racket take precedence over fact-checking? Does sentencing take precedence over trial? Up to you, Madame.

    One more thing: perhaps I see more than I am willing to discuss publicly (let those who know, know that maybe I do to).
    Therefore … 😉

    1. @ Lobro

      I have no idea why you are addressing me since I never mentioned you by name. It appears that you believe you are under attack when, I repeat, the finger of blame was never pointed at you.

      If you feel I am getting on your nerves, the answer is simple. Have nothing more to do with me. I have addressed none of my comments to you, either positive or negative. I have picked no quarrel with you, as far as I can remember. I have attacked many other people here, but not you.

      So what exactly is your problem?

      1. If you feel a certain dislike for me growing in you, as your comment would seem to indicate, I feel very sad about that. But let me assure you of one thing: your dislike for me is not reciprocated.

        I love everyone and you are included in that all-embracing love. I know that sounds laughable but it happens to be true. So put aside your paranoia and your irrational animosity toward me and try your best to cultivate a more mature attitude toward the female sex.

        Take your cue from the subtitle of this article: “storm in a teacup”, and try and see things in perspective and not get wound up over trivia.

    2. ok, no need for escalation.
      As for why i thought this was not only aimed at me but aimed at me exclusively, one need only re-read the blockquoted text (again).
      i honestly see no one else who fits the bill, only myself, however superficially.

      that and maybe a thing or two about penchant for flattery but let’s drop that, ok?

      and by way of an original idea, a fresh start so to speak, i think I shall try my best to cultivate a more mature attitude toward the female sex … as soon as i figure out what that means, being rather immature in that regard.
      let’s see whether i have anything on or by Plato on my kindle … nope, must remedy this embarrassing failure of class.

      1. @ Lobro

        I like Michael Hoffman and I’m hoping he starts Revealing the Truth about the TRUE and REAL Nature of the Universe, The Universe is Geocentric and we live on a Flat Earth. That got corrupted around the time Usury started to be accepted by The Church. Hoffman should know THE CHRISTIAN TRUTH OF THE GEOCENTRIC UNIVERSE AND OUR FLAT EARTH, GOD’S GOOD EARTH. And he should know the Heliocentric theory is from the jew’s satanic Kabbalah and is a MEGA PSYOPS AND GIANT LIE.

        I hope Hoffman is NOT hooked-up with Darkmoon, that would be extremely disappointing to me, sayin’. He should know the word “Darkmoon” is code-word for the jew’s satanic Kabbalah “goddess” “Lilith”. If I know IT, Hoffman DEFINITELY KNOWS IT AND KNOWS MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DO. AND HE SHOULD KNOW WHERE THE HELIOCENTRIC THEORY COMES FROM AND KNOW IT’S A GIANT LIE, IF I KNOW IT, THAN HOFFMAN KNOWS IT AND HE KNOWS MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DO, sayin’.

      2. @ Lobro

        Honestly, even if I was referring to you, which is silly because I wasn’t, what’s the big crime? If you’re a guy who likes a bit of flattery, is that a hanging offense? If that’s the extent of all the evil in your life, that you like someone sucking up to you and pouring syrupy words of praise into your ear, so what, eh? Big deal!

        I’ll let you into a secret. Most women like flattery. Me included. It can be quite an addiction. So please, I beg you, never make the mistake of praising me for anything in future or you’ll just feed my addiction. If ever you are tempted to praise one of my posts, which you wouldn’t dream of doing anyway since I’ve never known you to praise anyone, ever, even slightly, with the shadow of a compliment, please, please never say “Well done!” to me … because such a compliment would only go to my head and spoil me for ever!

        Understand what I’m saying?

        One can but hope. 🙂

      3. I’ll let you into a secret. Most women like flattery.

        And I’ll let you into a secret. I am not a woman. 🙂
        And another secret. I am uncomfortable with flattery for the following reason:
        i like to be my own judge and whatever someone thinks of me does not change my fundamentals, good or bad, so that my private judgment of myself remains unaffected.
        The reason one may be misled into thinking that I am moved by flattery (if that’s what it is) is that I am quite confrontation shy and will never initiate hostilities unless I see someone else, a defenseless victim unjustly persecuted.
        Or if i am attacked directly, then i will respond forcefully.
        i mentioned this once before and must repeat for your benefit, however much i don’t like public disclosures:
        in my late teens and early twenties, i was an amateur boxer who reached a degree of local recognition by being a talented counterpuncher … i never, ever led, never could lay into someone’s face full force unless previously provoked.
        Don’t mistake this attitude for being flattery prone.

        As for women enjoying flattery, of course they do – they are women, it is part of their inheritance and it is right that they should enjoy it.
        Women are flowers, right?
        Or butterflies, be it Himalayan variety or otherwise 😉
        I am sure you are beautiful in appearance and quite self-aware, it shows in your language, i got an ear for these things, girldar functioning as well as jewdar, but just like I don’t spill the beans on my suspicions of the latter, I also hold back on the flattery of the former – my bad, both ways.

      4. And TROJ. Serious.
        whereas i can’t quite accept that Earth is flat (lest Madam again mistakes it for flattery 🙂 ), i do have my own reasons, partly based on my understanding of physics (pretty spotty) and geometry (somewhat better) that the geocentricity of the universe is quite an arguable proposition – thus, I do not deny it.

        It also has quite profound moral or religious if you will, implication and for this same reason I reject the notion of the multiverse theory (parallel universes, be it just one extra or an infinitude of them), this being a thoroughly Jew-favoring concept.
        you might say that my understanding of the physical world is driven by my innate anti-semitism.

        salute.

      5. Lobro
        you got under Madame B skin somehow.
        she snapped got drunk and posted a detailed pornographic torrents
        of bitchy angry rabid ravings
        the ex nun upon reading the madam’s horny hocus pocus
        her face flushed red and then deleted the comments
        I have screen shots of the comments
        if you want it ,let me know

      6. no thanks, i happen to know that madam never drinks, that was only a ruse she used at the spur of the moment and has undoubtedly regretted having said it even in jest.

    1. “We live in the age of Judaic supremacy. In such an age Judaics cry “Holocaust!” when they stub their toe on a fire hydrant and Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of the Christ” is that fire-hydrant. ”

      Lol. Just started reading the review. What an opener.

    2. @HP Thanks for posting that. It’s very interesting. I think a movie (a documentary) could be made on the Jews attacks on Mel Gibson while he was making the movie, attacking him in the media and having him change the movie to their liking. It was their repulsive behavior towards him that led to him making remarks critical of Jews when he was arrested years ago, although what he said was really nothing. But with their power in the media they were able to smear him as an “anti-Semite”, a term I think a lot of people are tired of and might include themselves as one themselves.

      And now that they’ve ruined Gibson’s once great image and career, they deny playing any part in what they alone have done. The other day a Jewish rag had an article accusing Gibson of blaming them for the fall of his career. I can’t imagine he said much of anything. Everyone knows that the Jews cannot be criticized unless you’re willing to be crucified in the media. But of course anything he said would have been 100% accurate. The Jews did destroy Mel Gibson’s great career and they have done the same thing to others.

      This is what needs to change. Instead of them running western countries, they need to be pushed out of power so the real people of a country determine what is, or is not acceptable to say.

  4. To understand what the Talmud truly is, you need to understand the word PILPULIST.

    Literal Defintion: One who uses Talmudic dialectic.

    In laygoy’s terms: Excessive hair-splitting argumentation unto dizzying heights of sophistry. To put it more concisely, it is an overdose of argumentation from ALL sides to effect rhetorical rationalization and justification for any desired outcome.

    Never forget Vladimir Lenin’s most insightful pronouncement and it’s unmistakable connection to the long history and tradition of pharisaical talmudic pilpulism: “The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.”

    It is how the Pharisees ‘manufacture consensus’ and “…make the laws of God to no effect.” as Jesus publicly called them out on during his ministry on Earth.

    There is a reason why the Talmud has so many tractates. It is a literal two millennium-plus record of Pharisaical rabbi’s arguing over every single side of every single law or issue so as to offer justification for any and everything convenient for the rabbis to justify or condemn at any given time, for any rabbi who is interpreting the law.

    Hence the 613 Laws for the frum and 7 Noahchide Laws for the goyim…620 laws total, with each one open to two or more interpretations at every reading. All that, derived from the original 10 commandments. Call it legalistic inflation via 2,000+ years of rabbinical pilpulism.

    Thus the Talmud both condones and condemns pedarasty. It says to kill the best of gentiles and it says to be a light unto the gentiles. It is full of such seemingly contradictory passages and an endless array of cognitively dissonant argumentation.

    In short, the Talmud is the ultimate training manual in becoming THE Devil’s Advocate.

    On any and every issue for which a Pharisee has the power to enforce a ruling, he can find something in the Talmud to justify what he or she wants.

    It is the “Tradition of the Elders” a.k.a. Priestcraft. Posing as an intermediary between man and God to gain absolute power and tyrannical control over the people.

    While the Jews still have their orthodox and radical fundamentalist sects like Chabad Lubavitch who still practice Rabbinical tyranny on their local communities of haredi, for the rest of us gentiles, we the average citizen in today’s brave new world suffer in bondage to their machinations through their central banking usury cartel and control of the mass media and educational institutions. They use this control to endlessly manufacture consensus to promote their lies of athe-ism, femin-ism, rac-ism, enviromental-ism, and all the other ‘-ism’s and schisms they create to divide and conquer We the Sheeple.

    The Talmud was the original impetus for Medieval-era book burnings, which is why book burnings are so vilified and denounced by today’s judaized historians, journalists, pundits and academics.

    Of course, I only came to understand this all after having read both Dilling’s and Hoffman’s works. May God bless them both for their service in shining the light of truth on that damnable book of lies and blasphemy.

    1. Ram Bam,

      Excellent comment. As you say, the Talmud was the book most often burned on the bonfires of the Middle Ages. Several cartloads of Talmuds were burned in the public squares of Paris and other European cities. The idea that those people got angry with the Talmud because of quotations “taken out of context” is rubbish. The books were burned because their contents gave offense. Very, very few people know Hebrew in those days but a small minority did and they found the Talmud blasphemous and obscene. Some of those who denounced the book were learned Jews who had converted to Christianity and knew Hebrew backwards. To pretend that the Talmud is totally “inoffensive” is an argument that only a Talmudic Jew could make.

    2. ” we the average citizen in today’s brave new world suffer in bondage to their machinations through their central banking usury cartel and control of the mass media and educational institutions. They use this control to endlessly manufacture consensus to promote their lies of athe-ism, femin-ism, rac-ism, enviromental-ism, and all the other ‘-ism’s and schisms they create to divide and conquer We the Sheeple.”

      Well said…written.

      Meanwhile, Ro. denies this Jewish power and its ramifications. The denial is pathological and leads to their ruin.

  5. Well, I found this exchange interesting, but not surprising. When confronted with something they don’t like, they lie. Although this is a fact, I wouldn’t repeat it here except that they accuse others of horrible things constantly and when they’re caught up in their own lies they pass laws to jail people that expose their lies. They are reprehensible.

    Anti-Semitism is a normal reaction to hateful Jewish behavior. I read that and it makes perfect sense.

  6. Rousso :

    So, what do you think about the Kabbalah? Do you like the Kabbalah? Do you think it’s a Truthful, Highly Spiritual, Very Inspiring, religious book? Transcendent even? The Epitome of Raised Consciousness, or what?

  7. Dear LD,

    Please, explain how could this statement turn into the ones published in the post.

    “You can trust me or not but most of these quotations that can be found around the Net are either fake or misreported. I am not proposing to consider all of them an absolute lie, but indeed this book is not such as most people think it is. Much more ominous, in fact. But not in a fashion that people are inclined to imagine.”

    In the post it is implied as if I suggested that “all the Talmud quotes provided by Elizabeth Dilling and Dr Hoffman are fakes”. But in fact I said, “I corroborate the assertion that these quotations are for the most part bullshit. False or exaggerated statements made to impress the reader rather than inform.” For the most part.

    You said, instead of that: “all the Talmud quotes provided by Elizabeth Dilling and Dr Hoffman.”

    Please, explain how could this statement turn into the one published in the post: “This book is not such as most people think it is. Much more ominous, in fact. But not in a fashion that people are inclined to imagine.”

    In the post, it is said that I am calling the Talmud “an innocuous work of the Jewish spirit”.

    Please, confirm the statement suggesting that I said I read the Soncino translation of the Talmud in Hebrew. Because it is an English translation and the original is in Aramaic, as I said in the response to Lobro’s comment.

    1. Rousso,

      Please stop trying to draw Lasha Darkmoon into a head-on verbal collision with you. She is not even here, and if even if she were available for discussion (which she is not), she has better things to do with her time than enter into tiresome controversies with attention-seeking commenters like yourself.

      Every comment of yours was copied and pasted into that article exactly as you wrote it. Not a single word was added or subtracted. You were not misquoted, as you appear to be suggesting. What LD said about you in her introductory thoughts to Dr Hoffman, these were her own words and reflected her own opinions. What you said in your quoted emails were your own words too, and not a single word was altered.

      Try and understand that Dr Michael Hoffman refused to enter into dialogue with you because he had reached the conclusion that you were an internet troll. We share his opinion that it is a complete waste of time arguing with such trolls. And we regard you as one such troll.

      Make no further attempt to embroil us in your noisy arguments. You are an uninvited guest in our house and we are displeased with your bad manners. Any further attempt by you to lecture us on how we should treat you will result in your instant eviction.

      1. Toby,

        I am addressing LD because she said things that people started talking about. I had no intention to drag her into a collision. I am not seeking her attention.

        LD and Lobro asked me to expand this topic and I spent all of my free time tonight to do just this on their polite request.

        Of course what LD said about me in her introduction were her own words and reflected her own opinions. I understand that.

        I don’t understand the reason for such an opinion. For example, I said that Talmud is a more ominous book than people think it is.

        But at the present moment people are talking about me considering that I said the opposite of that.

        Dr Michael Hoffman is an eloquent writer and I speak four languages. English is my 3rd. I am still in the process of learning it.

        To me it is interesting to explore its various forms and techniques of polemics. For this I sometimes use strong expressions.

        If I knew that humble comments of mine would be sent to him I’d have used much more moderate lexicon for a fact and I am a bit embarassed.

        But I think that he wouldn’t have been interested in a dialogue all the same. People who publish 1000-pages books don’t participate in forums.

        Besides, I apologize for bad manners. This site is almost unmonitored, as Sister Monica said. I had to respond in perhaps a rude fashion to some people who insulted me.

        You weren’t here then, I guess. Not I started it. For instance Lobro and I never quarrel in spite of disagreements. As long as he is polite, I am polite too.

        But you can ask me to depart and I will not come back.

      2. But you can ask me to depart and I will not come back.

        I have no ultimate control over this website, though it is true I have some influence, so I am not responsible for the views and decisions of my cousin John Scott Montecristo and the 2-3 voluntary monitors. Speaking for myself alone, I have no wish to see you depart. I apologize sincerely if I did wrong in making a feature article out of your comments, but this is common practice here.

        Accept the fact that you have antagonized several good posters on this site and are under suspicion of being a Zionist infiltrator. The people who think this may be wrong, but you have said things that make them all think this way. Dr Michael Hoffman can hardly be dismissed as an unintelligent man, but even he reached this conclusion after reading a few comments of yours: that you were an “internet troll”.

        I myself am in two minds and am driven to the hypothesis that you may actually be a serious and well-intentioned Jew who finds it useful to come onto an “anti-Semitic” site like this and try and understand what makes people here have these anti-Semitic attitudes. Most Jews would stay away from sites like this because reading the articles and comments here would cause them genuine outrage and pain — in short, cognitive dissonance.

        You have perhaps decided (if you are a Jew, as I suspect you might be) to plunge into these stormy waters and investigate the root cause of these storms. I think we would all breathe a sigh of relief if you simply said, “Yes, I am Jewish. So what if I am? Am I not entitled to express my views on this free speech site?” And you would then be told by Admin: “Yes, go ahead, express your views, but you may have to be evicted if things get out of control.”

        That’s the way I honestly feel: that you have a right to express your views here as long as you cause no trouble.

      3. “Dr Michael Hoffman is an eloquent writer and I speak four languages. English is my 3rd. I am still in the process of learning it.

        To me it is interesting to explore its various forms and techniques of polemics. For this I sometimes use strong expressions.”

        Lol. “Today I am mostly learning how to troll in English”.

    2. Good try, Rousso. But it won’t work. Ever since you came here, you committed the cardinal sin of over-posting. Such attention-seeking narcissism is one of the characteristics of you Jews. You know no moderation, do you? You always thrust yourselves into the limelight, hungry for attention and evangelical in your fervor to ram your opinions down everyone else’s throat.

      I have no idea why you need to infiltrate his site when the whole world is the Jew’s oyster. All your opinions would be greeted with rapture in the mainstream media. Nothing you’ve said here could not be said in the New York Times or Ha’aretz or the Jerusalem Post. Your views are the views of a typical Russian Jew who has made aliyah to Israel.

      Why don’t you admit you’re a Jew rather than try to keep up this self-demeaning deception? Many would welcome you here, including me, if you were honest enough to out yourself as a Jew. Why don’t you, since all your views are the views of a Jew?

      That YouTube video you linked about that Jewish girl and her mother in Israel, it was simply an advertisement for the glorification of Israel. Anyone seeing that video would have thought at once, “These Israelis are lovely people, just like that lovely young girl talking about her life in the Holy Land!” No mention in the video that these lovely Jews were living on stolen land or that 95% of these lovely people approved of the genocidal liquidation of the Palestinians in the latest Gaza bloodbath.

      By all means advertise your gorgeous country of orange groves and olive orchards, but at least have the decency to tell us how you love killing Palestinian children and stealing their organs.

      Not such nice people, after all.

      1. COMMENT DELETED!

        I’m sorry, MB, if you go on like this I’ll have to ban you. This is not a whorehouse. And alcoholism is no excuse.

        Sober up, will you.

        — Sr Monica

      2. Why don’t you stop attempting to provoke me and instead of that introduce yourself as normal people do and then ask a personal question?

        Why don’t you stop judging my views not knowing me at all and insisting on presumption that these are the views of a Jew about which you know not much also?

        Why don’t you stop insulting me Sardonicus though I am as you see ignoring it and not responding to your insolent and foolish diatribes?

  8. Talmudic Sephardic Jews in America – before 1615 – North Carolina:

    On September 15, 1615 (Julian calendar) a man and woman of Sephardic Jewish heritage followed the ancient teachings of Judaism to legitimate their marriage.  The place is Hoopers Bald at about 5,400 feet above sea level in the Great Smoky Mountains of North Carolina.  From ancient times, when a priest or rabbi was not available,  a couple could marry before YHYH “on a high place sacred to YHWH” by announcing their betrothal to those assembled and praying together.   The inscription on a sacred stone became their wedding certificate.  

    Some locals knew about the stone and assumed it was “Latin or something” but could not explain the early date.   The director of the Department of Anthropology at the University of Tennessee was shown a photograph of the inscription by Frank McClung, head of the historical society in Robbinsville, NC.   The famous archaeologist said that the words were Latin and meant “Land we hold”  He said that they were inscribed by Spaniards as claim to the all the lands in sight.” 

    https://peopleofonefire.com/why-you-could-have-no-native-american-dna-but-still-have-ancestors-who-called-themselves-cherokee.html

  9. My two cents:
    I cannot speak for Sardonicus, Arnold or even for Peter (although I have been following his comments on other sites and know he has a sensitive J-dar).
    For myself I can say that I suspected “Rousso” very early on because of his typical Jewish troll behaviors:
    — He collects/elicits personal data on the other posters which he then uses in his attacks/”arguments” (“you’re more cosmopolitan than I”) but he never gives many on himself, while reacting with fury when asked (even politely) if he is a Jew.
    — He studies the site where he plans to become a settler to determine who has local authority. Someone says “Circassian was banned because he insulted Lobro,” or so-and-so was banned because Pat asked for it. So he will snivel by Lobro, claim to retract insulting Pat, pretending he was using “metaphors.” Peter is still new around here so he can still insult him–or at least what passes for an insult in JewView: “fascist,” “Nazi.” The only thing he knows about me is my age because I wrote it in a comment so I get off easy… I am “stupid old maid.”
    This is the behavior amply described by Israel Shahak as Jewish strategy over time everywhere: get close to “power,” make yourself accepted by it, as a lender, flatterer, whatever it takes, and you may safely despise and strike the low “nations.”
    — He never misses an opportunity to defend Judaism and the Jews and in fact exalt them and disguises his hatred of Christianity as a philosophical (sic) view from above all religions, all derived from Judaism, while he, supposedly is entranced by Buddhism.
    — Jewish hypocritical humility (“my English is not so good”) mismatched with his outsized Jewish arrogance of knowing better than anyone everything there is to know about marxism (of which he knows only slogans), Russia and the Balkans (because he… “lived in all those countries”).

    I don’t think Lobro was deceived by his flattery. I think he believed, at least for a good while, that “Rousso” was a misinformed “young Russian guy” whom he was going to educate… Otherwise he would have applied his own rules about not giving an inch, a moment, an even break, to the Jew because the Jew is impermeable to Truth and only means to deceive.

      1. Rousso
        You are an intelligent person ,no doubt about that
        I don’t care if you are a Jew or not ,you are an intelligent
        human being.
        this site is the least tyrant among the alt-right ones
        try posting and engaging people at daily stormer ,the Occidental observer
        or niqnaq etc.
        the reason here is more open minded site ,is that the owner and editor
        are highly educated and scholars and have been exposed to different
        cultures and people of different backgrounds.
        here they have larger picture ,the others have the tinniest narrow
        look at the world.
        of course no body is perfect
        here and anywhere else, you will find among the posters
        the Good ,The Bad and The Ugly

      2. You are obviously trying to flatter us by saying we are more broad-minded than other similar websites (“a more open minded site”), but the truth is we are not trying to be superior in any way. In fact, the other sites you mention are far more discriminating and properly organized than we are. The Darkmoon site, in comparison, is culpably disorganized and chaotic and there is little overall control over what gets published here. For these genuine faults we are to blame.

  10. these people don’t just hate the Jews
    they hate any one who doesn’t look like them or doesn’t think like them
    these people are racists pure and simple.
    they are anti humanity
    and this site is an outhouse
    a gutter like no other
    the irony it’s an Israeli owned and operated

      1. Sean –

        Good posting. Thanks. I saw this many years back. I had forgotten all about it.

        Amdocs…. has grow since this report, and monitor – spy on – all calls in the world through satellites being operated by Israel Most by IAI.

        http://www.iai.co.il/2013/22031-en/homepage.aspx

        Airbus to operate IAI’s Heron 1 UAS for Germany also in Mali

        Cognitive dissonance will cause dismissal by most.

  11. Email response from Dr Michael Hoffman @ 1.14 pm Dear Lasha Darkmoonhoffman2, Thank you for your letter. I have a policy of not responding to Internet trolls. They are time-wasting exercises. Anyone who writes like this is one such troll: “Elizabeth Dilling was a liar, a fascist and a crackpot bitch.” Please see my blog: http://talmudical.blogspot.com Sincerely, Michael Hoffman

    This statement about responding to trolls is definitely true and good advice to all.

    Lee… on September 16, 2016 at 9:04 am: Talmud is word of man of rabbis, not of God. I believe the Jews should only used Torah and other Kabbalistic writings.

    I used to ponder the meaning of God giving those who dishonour him over to homosexuality in the Bible, Romans Chapter 1. Now it all makes sense. The Apostle Paul had this to say:

    (Romans 1:16 [NHEB]) For I am not ashamed of the Good News, for it is the power of God for salvation for everyone who believes; for the Jew first, and also for the Greek. For in it is revealed God’s righteousness from faith to faith. As it is written, [1]“But the righteous shall live by faith.”

    1. Habakkuk 2:4

    Christ’s coming as the suffering lamb was foretold of in various portions of the Old Testament, for example,

    (Isaiah 53:3-6 [NHEB]) He was despised, and rejected by men; a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering; as one from whom men hide their face, and we despised him and we did not value him. Surely he has borne our sufferings, and carried our sorrows; yet we considered him plagued, struck by God, and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgressions. He was crushed for our iniquities. The punishment that brought our peace was on him; and by his wounds we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray. Everyone has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

    The Jews continue to reject Jesus, disbelieving that he is their promised Messiah. Then Paul makes a statement,

    (Romans 1:21 [NHEB]) Because, knowing God, they did not glorify him as God, neither gave thanks, but became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless heart was darkened.

    which basically describes the current day Jew. Does this not describe the secret worshipping habits of the Illuminati, and perhaps other Jewish secret societies?

    (Romans 1:22-23 [NHEB]) Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and traded the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed animals, and creeping things.

    It goes further to say,

    (Romans 1:24-25 [NHEB]) Therefore God also abandoned them in the lusts of their hearts to uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

    which results in

    (Romans 1:26-31 [NHEB]) For this reason, God abandoned them to their degrading passions. For their women changed the natural function into that which is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural function of the woman, burned in their lust toward one another, men doing what is inappropriate with men, and receiving in themselves the due penalty of their error. Even as they refused to have God in their knowledge, God abandoned them to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil habits, secret slanderers, backbiters, hateful to God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, unmerciful;

    Are not certain wealthy Jews behind the pornography industry, also pushing the gay agenda? And banking?

    The chapter ends with

    (Romans 1:32 [NHEB]) who, knowing the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but also approve of those who practice them.

    This must speak of none of that the Jews, because they know the ordinance of God but then behave contrary to it, preferring to defame, kill and maim Palestinians contrary to what God commanded them to do in:

    (Leviticus 19:33-34 [NHEB]) “‘If a stranger lives as a foreigner with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. The stranger who lives as a foreigner with you shall be to you as the native-born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you lived as foreigners in the land of Egypt. I am the LORD your God.”

    1. György,

      Thank you for this excellent comment with its many supportive quotations.

      “If a stranger lives as a foreigner with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong.” (Leviticus)

      It’s funny how the Jews quote this comment in Christian countries so that they can blackmail the Christians into treating them kindly at all times, irrespective of their behavior, but meanwhile they completely ignore the advice in Israel/Palestine.

      Like saying: “You must treat us Jews well, but we can treat you badly if we want.”

      And they do.

      1. leviticus-bullshiticus.
        i think this was slapped on after Christ when rattus iudeus started his westward spread, infesting italy, spain, germany and france.

        i wouldn’t touch any part of old testament without hazmat suit.

      2. lobro on September 18, 2016 at 11:16 am: leviticus-bullshiticus. i think this was slapped on after Christ when rattus iudeus started his westward spread, infesting italy, spain, germany and france.

        Leviticus written before Christ was substantiated in the Dead Sea Scrolls find.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Leviticus

        Subsequent tradition

        Leviticus, as part of the Torah, became the law book of Jerusalem’s second temple as well as of the Samaritan temple. Evidence of its influence was found among the Dead Sea Scrolls, which included fragments of seventeen manuscripts of Leviticus dating from the third to the first centuries BCE.[44]

        44. Watts (2013), p.10

  12. Leviticus, as part of the Torah, became the law book of Jerusalem’s SECOND TEMPLE

    It may have been written BC but the lovey-dovey part is so atypical, so contrary to everything jew stands for that it doesn’t make any sense, which is why i postulated that it had been inserted at a later date for political reasons.
    As for the mythical Second Temple it ain’t second nor was there a first, the head banging wailing Wall was a Roman legion fortress,

    While it has not been widely published, it assuredly has been known for more than 40 years that the 45-acre, well-fortified place that has been mistakenly called the “Temple Mount” was really the Roman fortress—the Antonia—that Herod built. The Dome of the Rock and al-Aqsa Mosque are contained within these walls. The area is called the Haram Al-Sharif in Arabic.

    The discovery that this area had once been the great Roman fortress came as a shock to the scholarly community, which had believed for many years that this ancient fortress was the place where the temple had been. This news was preceded by another shock, when the English archaeologist Kathleen Kenyon discovered in 1962 that the entire City of David in the past had been only that little rock ridge on the western bank of the Kidron Valley. Less than 10 years later the historian Benjamin Mazar learned that the Haram had undoubtedly been the Roman fortress.

    In biblical times the Haram was not a sacred place. Instead it was the place that Orthodox Jews considered defiled and the most despised place in the world. Within these walls were found no remnants of any of the earlier temples but rather an image of Mars, the Roman god of war. The 1st century Jewish Roman historian Titus Flavius Josephus said the Romans always kept a whole legion of soldiers (5,000-6,000) there, and that there were stones in its walls that were 30 feet long, 15 feet thick, and 71/2 feet high. While excavating the area, Mazar found these very stones there in the Haram—not in the temple.

    He and the local Muslims also discovered there three inscriptions, honoring the Roman leaders in the war of A.D. 66-72—Vespasian, Titus, and Silva—and Hadrian in the war of A.D. 132-135, for their success in defeating the Jews in the wars. Appropriate inscriptions for a Roman fortress, but impossible for a temple that had been destroyed in A.D. 70—65 years before the inscriptions had been made.

    even the ultra-Jew York Times is walking on eggs around it
    Hectored by Zionist wannabe archaeologists, ‘NYT’ recasts article on Jewish temples

    In fact, it is close to becoming “Hate Crime“, ie, TEMPLE DENIAL

    Yeah, so allow me my tiny smidgen of skepticism re. kind, humane Leviticus, so generous and hospitable to the visiting goyim.

    1. The inverted Ewige Jude rules of inference:
      in order to prove the existence and validity of some jew construct, simply claim that (your choice of destroyers): nazis, Romans, islamofascists destroyed any vestige of evidence in a typically efficient, coldblooded thoroughness characterizing the hate-filled, jackbooted Germans/Romans and anyone questioning the existence of something non-existent is a DENIER, eg, holocaust Denier, temple Denier, jew-Genius Denier, Beauty-of-Jewesses Denier.

      And because you a Denier, this preceding “Something” must have existed, otherwise you wouldn’t be Denying it, would you.

  13. But most of us (including Jews) cannot see what Dostoyevski saw 140 years ago. When WWIII begins, we should know the real reason we and our children are going to die.

    “… it is not for nothing that over there the Jews are reigning everywhere over stock-exchanges; it is not for nothing that they control capital, that they are the masters of credit, and it is not for nothing – I repeat – that they are also the masters of international politics, and what is going to happen in the future is known to the Jews themselves: their reign, their complete reign is approaching !” (p. 650).

    by Fyodor Dostoyevski

    A Writer’s Diary, 1877 p. 645

    (Excerpt by henrymakow.com)

    Mankind’s last word on this great tribe is still to come. However, without fathoming the essence and depth of the subject, it is possible to outline, at least, certain symptoms of that status in statu, [state within a state Jews maintain] – be it only externally. These symptoms are: alienation and estrangement in the matter of religious dogma; the impossibility of fusion; belief that in the world there exists but one national entity – the Jew, while, even though other entities exist, nevertheless it should be presumed that they are, as it were, nonexistent.

    “Step out of the family of nations, and form your own entity, and thou shalt know that henceforth thou art the only one before God; exterminate the rest, or make slaves of them, or exploit them. Have faith in the conquest of the whole world; adhere to the belief that everything will submit to thee. Loathe strictly everything, and do not have intercourse with anyone in thy mode of living. And even when thou shalt lose the land, thy political individuality, even when thou shalt be dispersed all over the face of the earth, amidst all nations, – never mind, have faith in everything that has been promised thee, once and forever; believe that all this will come to pass, and meanwhile live, loathe, unite and exploit, and – wait, wait….”

    Such is the essence of that status in statu, and, in addition, there are, of course, inner and, perhaps, mysterious laws guarding this idea.

    You say, gentlemen – educated Jews and opponents – that all this is certainly nonsense, and that even if there be a status in statu (i.e., there has been, but at present, according to them, only the dimmest traces of it remain), it is solely because persecution has brought it about; religious persecution since the Middle Ages, and even earlier, has generated it, and that this status in statu came into existence merely from the instinct of self-preservation. However, if it continues, especially in Russia, it is because the Jew has not yet been given equal rights with the native population.

    But this is how I feel: should the Jew be given equal rights, under no circumstance would he renounce his status in statu. Moreover, to attribute it to nothing but persecution and the instinct of self-preservation – is insufficient. Besides, there would not have been enough tenacity in store for self-preservation during forty centuries; the people would have grown weary of preserving themselves for so long a time. Even the strongest civilizations in the world have failed to survive half of the forty centuries, losing their political strength and racial countenance.

    Here it is not only self-preservation that constitutes the main cause, but a certain compelling and luring idea, something so universal and profound that on it, as stated above, mankind is perhaps still unable to utter its last word. That we are here dealing with something of a pre-eminently religious character – there can be no doubt. That their Providence, under the former, initial name of Jehovah, with his ideal and his covenant, continues to lead his people toward a firm goal – this much is clear. Besides, I repeat, it is impossible to conceive a Jew without God.

    Moreover, I do not believe in the existence of atheists even among the educated Jews: they all are of the same substance, and God only knows what the world has to expect from the educated Jews! Even in my childhood I have read and heard a legend about Jews to the effect that they are supposed to be undeviatingly awaiting the Messiah, all of them, both the lowest Yiddisher and the highest and most learned one – the philosopher and the cabalist – rabbi; that they all believe that the Messiah will again unite them in Jerusalem and will bring by his sword all nations to their feet; that this is the reason why the overwhelming majority of the Jews have a predilection but for one profession – the trade in gold, and at the utmost – for goldsmithery; and all this, so it is alleged, in order, that, when Messiah comes, they should not need to have a new fatherland and to be tied to the land of aliens in their, the Jews’ possession, but to have everything converted into gold and jewels, so that it will be easier to carry them away when

    The ray of dawn begins to shine:

    Our flute, our tabor and the cymbal

    Our riches and our holy symbol

    We will bring back to our old shrine,

    To our old home – to Palestine.

    All this – I repeat – I heard as a legend, but I believe that the substance of the matter unfailingly is there, in the form of an instinctively irresistible tendency. But in order that such a substance of the matter might be preserved, it is, of course, necessary that the strictest status in statu be preserved. And it is being preserved.

    Thanks to Peter Myers for transcribing Fyodor Dostoevski on the Coming Jewish Reign – “their Complete Reign”

    http://www.henrymakow.com/

    Crap. We’re fecked! No, no no. Must remain calm and positive — we’re slightly fecked. Just as long as Putin is the real deal and China is also free of the Jewish shackles and shekels….no way man..we’re fecked I tell ya….gibber…blub…gibber.

    Cognitive dissonance chiming fear in me head.

    1. Note that the magical Dostoevsky published this in 1877 – before The Protocols were discovered by the Tsarist agents in Paris.

      Look at some highly significant insights he presented:

      But this is how I feel: should the Jew be given equal rights, under no circumstance would he renounce his status in statu. Moreover, to attribute it to nothing but persecution and the instinct of self-preservation – is insufficient.

      Moreover, he now openly rejects equal treatment but insists on vastly elevated status – using his monstrous lie of Holocaust as the primary weapon of blackmail.
      Equating Jew with the rest amounts to antisemitism and “hate crime”.

      Fyodor was never for a heartbeat misled by the “Good Jew” fable that easily overpowers the weaker minds.

      Moreover, I do not believe in the existence of atheists even among the educated Jews: they all are of the same substance

      He clearly sees the shadow of Devil that falls over the entire Jew entity and binds it in an utterly unique way, where atheism has a different meaning from the usual one.
      The wealth accumulation is not an end, merely means to the end.

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