9/11 Destroyed America

By Paul Craig Roberts

The events on September 11, 2001, changed the world. It was the excuse for the US government to launch military attacks on seven Middle Eastern countries, causing civilian casualties in the millions and sending waves of Muslim refugees into the Western world.

The US government wasted trillions of dollars destroying countries and murdering women and children, while public infrastructure in the US deteriorated, Americans’ homes were foreclosed, and American health needs went unattended. 9/11 was also the excuse for the destruction of the protection that the US Constitution provided to ensure the liberty of the American citizen. Today no American has the protection of the civil liberty that the Constitution guarantees. 

On September 11, 2001, when a neighbor called and told me to turn on the TV, I stopped what I was doing and turned on the TV. What I saw was the two World Trade Center Towers blowing up. I had often enjoyed lunch in the rooftop restaurant in one of the towers across the street from my Wall Street Journal office.

A miniscule by comparison frail aluminum airliner hit one massive steel tower and then another aluminum airliner hit the other. There were some plumes of orange outside the buildings. Then approximately after one hour, less in one case, more in the other, the two towers exploded floor by floor as they fell into their own footprint.

This was precisely the way the news anchors described what I was seeing. “It looks exactly like a controlled demolition,” the news anchors reported. And indeed it did. As a Georgia Tech student I had witnessed a controlled demolition, and that is what I saw on television, just as that was what the news anchors saw.

Later that day Larry Silverstein who owned, or held the lease on, the World Trade Center, explained on TV that the free fall collapse in the late afternoon of the third WTC skyscraper, Building 7, into its own footprint was a conscious decision to “pull” the building. Pull is the term used by controlled demolition to describe a building wired with explosives to be destroyed. Building 7 had not been hit by an airliner, and suffered only minor and very limited office fires. Silverstein’s statement was afterwards corrected by authorities to mean that the firemen were pulled from the building. However, many videos show the firemen already out of the building with the fireman stating that the building was going to be brought down.

As there is no doubt whatsoever that Building 7 was wired for demolition, the question is why?

Because Americans are an insouciant and trusting people and confident of the inherent goodness of their country, years passed before even experts noticed that the official story stood in total contradiction to known laws of physics, was in total contradiction to how buildings collapse from asymmetrical damage, and could not have collapsed due to being hit by airliners as the buildings met all code requirements for withstanding airliner collisions. Many did not even know that the third skyscraper, Building 7, had collapsed.

Professor Steven E. Jones, a professor of physics at BYU, was among the first to see that the official story was pure fantasy. His reward for speaking out was to have his tenure contract bought out by BYU, many believe under orders from the federal government backed up with the threat that all federal support of science at BYU would be terminated unless Stephen Jones was.

Cynthia McKinney, a black woman who represented a Georgia congressional district in the US House of Representatives was either much brighter or much braver than her white colleagues. She raised obvious questions about 9/11, questions begging to be asked, and lost her seat.

Approximately five years after 9/11, San Francisco architect Richard Gage noticed that the three WTC buildings did not fall down in any way consistent with the official explanation. He formed Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, currently about 3,000 members. This group includes high rise architects and structural engineers who actually are experienced in the construction of skyscrapers. In other words, they are people who know what they are talking about.

These 3,000 experts have said that the official explanation of the collapse of three skyscrapers stands in contradiction to known laws of physics, architecture, and structural engineering

In other words, the official explanation is totally impossible. Only an uneducated and ignorant public can believe the official 9/11 story. The US population fits this description.

A&E for 9/11 Truth is gradually gaining assent from architects and engineers. It is very difficult for an architect or engineer to support the truth, because the American population, which includes patriotic construction companies, whose employees fly American flags on their trucks, don’t want to hire architects and engineers who are “enemies of America aligned with Arab terrorists.” In America, if you tell the truth, you are in great danger of losing your customers and even your life

Think now about physicists. How many physics faculties do you know that are not dependent on federal grants, usually for military-related work? The same for chemistry. Any physics professor who challenged the official story of 9/11 with the obvious fact that the story contravenes known laws of physics would endanger not only his own career but the careers of his entire department.

Truth in America is extremely costly to express. It comes at a high cost that hardly any can afford.

Our masters know this, and thus they can dispense with truth at will. Moreover, any expert courageous enough to speak the truth is easily branded a “conspiracy theorist.”

Who comes to his defense? Not his colleagues. They want rid of him as quickly as possible. Truth is a threat to their careers. They can’t afford to be associated with truth. In America, truth is a career-killing word.

In America, truth is becoming a synonym for “Russian agent.” Only Russian Agents tell the truth, which must mean that truth is an enemy of America. Lists are being prepared of websites that speak truth to power and thus are seditious. In the United States today people can lie at will without consequence, but it is deadly to tell the truth.

Support A&E for 9/11 Truth. These are heroic people. 9/11 was the manufactured excuse for the neoconservatives’ 16 years of war crimes against millions of Muslims peoples, remnants of which now seek refuge in Europe.

Neoconservatives are a tiny number of people. No more than a dozen are of any consequence. Yet they have used America to murder millions. And now they are fomenting war with Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea. The world would never survive such a war.

Are Americans so insouciant that they will stand aside while a dozen neoconservatives destroy the world?

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51 thoughts on “9/11 Destroyed America

  1. The following quote is generally attributed to George Orwell: “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” Who could reasonably argue that we are not now living in such time? Only the (((deceivers))) themselves and their Shabbos goy accomplices have the audacity to proclaim that black is white, good is bad, and up is down. And so far their deception has worked masterfully.

    Another quote I find particularly relevant to the current state of our (dis)union is: “It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society,” by Jiddu Krishnamurti.

    1. Believe this or not, Toejamicus had just finished reading James Bamford’s “BODY OF SECRETS” (2001) the night before 9/11. TJ knew at once that 9/11 was an false flag inside job with a little help from our friends from that shity little country in the Middle East and their good friends in America.

    1. indeed, even worse than “not mentioning them” is this

      Neoconservatives are a tiny number of people. No more than a dozen are of any consequence. Yet they have used America to murder millions. And now they are fomenting war with Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea. The world would never survive such a war.

      Are Americans so insouciant that they will stand aside while a dozen neoconservatives destroy the world?

      which translates to something like
      12 jews are bad.
      13,999,988 jews are good.

      Truth is a threat to their careers. They can’t afford to be associated with truth. In America, truth is a career-killing word.

      In America, truth is becoming a synonym for “Russian agent.” Only Russian Agents tell the truth, which must mean that truth is an enemy of America.

      in fact, it should read like this:
      In America, truth is becoming a synonym for “ANTISEMITE”. Only ANTISEMITES tell the truth, which must mean that truth is an enemy of America.
      where “antisemite” stands for the one who on principle does not like or trust jews, ie, more accurately, “anti-judaist”, such as yours truly.

      And this is the dangerous truth, the same truth that had Christ nailed to the cross.

      1. Lobro,
        I’ve read it before, but I’m convinced that their stat of only 14 million Jews in the world is another Jew lie. It’s impossible to believe that they have been breeding for at least 4 thousand years and still have such small numbers. There are at least 14 million Jews in the US & Israel alone. Plus millions of Jews have intermarried with gentiles and many are atheists, so how do you get an accurate count anyway? It’s obvious to me that they are deliberately undercounting their numbers, just as they deliberately way over-counted the number of Jews who died in the gas chambers.

      2. Folly,
        i share your concern and hope it is not true, which is to say that
        the fewer jews, the better,
        i will never regret a shortage, no matter how severe.

        Now, let’s suppose that your suspicion is correct, namely that apart from true cryptos, the ones tasked with specific activities in order to perilously undermine the goy world and bring it to messianic destruction, there are other “ordinary” jews floating around in large numbers.
        These are presumably true jews following the age old talmudic program – and note that the “Atheist” jews fully qualify for synagogues since by all sorts of yardsticks, ALL JEWS ARE ATHEISTS – and somehow these large numbers of jews evade our scrutiny.
        So that instead of 14m, there may be something like 200m globally and maybe half of them (?) in the states.

        the reason i have trouble with this is because except for cryptos who adhere to a strict underground network of pseudo worship of the same Devil as the overt ones, these masses of “ordinary invisibles” MUST be exposed to almost daily reinforcement of core input in order to continue functioning as satanically viable particles – which precisely what makes jews Chosen, chosen to do a macabre job.

        How do other jews recognize and acknowledge them as their own? there must be records and archives in rabbinical sewers but the recognition must also exist on everyday basis because they always promote each other in quotidian life. In which case we should be able to spot them just the same.

        Something else: yesterday i had to drive thru dense traffic across toronto and consulted google traffic to spot the quickest route.
        It took me through the part of jew-dense Bathurst-Eglinton-Chaplin Cres neighborhood and it was a veritable Jew safari, they were so obvious with their hunchback sickly gait, shakes, lurches, uncoordinated skips, sallow faces … no way could these hide in a general populace.

        bottom line: i don’t know, it is an important question worth careful research.

      3. Folly
        Lobro –

        There are 100 million at least.

        Since 1970 anyone married into Jews for two generations can be an official Jew. Blood relation not needed:

        See Law of Return.

        The 1970 amendment of the Law of Return stated that, “The rights of a Jew under this Law and the rights of an oleh under the Nationality Law… are also vested in a child and a grandchild of a Jew, the spouse of a Jew, the spouse of a child of a Jew and the spouse of a grandchild of a Jew.”

        Furthermore, the clause in Amendment number 2, 4a, states:

        The rights of a Jew under this Law and the rights of an oleh under the Nationality Law, 5712-1952***, as well as the rights of an oleh under any other enactment, are also

        vested in a child and a grandchild of a Jew, the spouse of a Jew, the spouse of a child of a Jew and the spouse of a grandchild of a Jew, except for a person who has been a Jew and has voluntarily changed his/her religion.

        http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/mfa-archive/1950-1959/pages/law%20of%20return%205710-1950.aspx

      4. Pat,

        except for a person who has been a Jew and has voluntarily changed his/her religion

        this excludes everyone who is not a declared Jew or convert to judaism in addition to the above links, ie, by blood or marriage.

        who done bar shmitzvah is eligible to return where he’s never been.

        basically, back to square one, i am not denying the 100m figure, maybe, maybe not and i am more afraid of 100m jews than any number of nuke headed icbm’s.
        Icbm’s are not chosen, not supremacist, don’t particularly hate Christ and christians or caucasians.
        There are more good ICBM’s than good jews, look at all the thousands of icbm’s that lived their lives and were scrapped to rocket heaven without ever doing anyone any harm.

      5. @Follyofwar

        “There are at least 14 million Jews in the US & Israel alone.”

        Well that doesn’t differ much from their own estimation. According to the website Jewish population by country
        ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country ), there are 6,399,000 Jews in Israel and 5,300,000 – 7,039,000 Jews in the US. World wide there are an estimated 14,200,000 – 20,000,000 Jews.

        Significantly higher estimations (by non-Jews) are inspired by paranoia or the distorted impression of “Jews are everywhere”, because Jews are indeed overrepresented in key positions of society, but not among the rest of the population. The idea that there are hundreds of millions of Jews and that the Jews keep that secret is a typical example of goyish paranoia.

      6. Lobro –

        It is NOT “back to square one”….. since that “square” was for blood related only. Specifically the mom had to be jew.

        Maybe…”square 8″.. 🙂

      7. @ Lobro

        “There are more good ICBM’s than good jews, look at all the thousands of icbm’s that lived their lives and were scrapped to rocket heaven without ever doing anyone any harm.”

        Truly classic!

      8. Toejamicus brought this up some time ago on these pages that there is a vast under count of the Jewish world wide population. TJ was somewhat poo pooed for this. However, it looks like this demographic undercount is gaining more currency.
        TJ’s theory is that there is a world wide battle, that has been going on for centuries, between modern human beings, descent from the Cro-Magnon, and those who carry a strain of Neanderthal DNA.
        The musings of the Old Testament and the Talmud/Cabbala and their tribal “God” are good indications of the mind set of those who’s blood may be running with the DNA of the Neanderthal. Jesus the Christ evidently did not carry these primitive genes, therefore, was and still is the enemy of those who do.
        Neanderthal Sarah Silverman says: “I’m glad we killed Jesus. If he were alive I would do it again”. Or, words to that effect. Also Sarah Silverman called for a military coup against President Trump on Wednesday night in the midst of violent riots in Berkeley, California.

  2. The conclusions drawn from this article might make an ordinary, patriotic American change his mind about his own country. Considering Mark’s comment regarding PCR’s omission of Jew suspects (above), it occurs to me that a very effective strategy against America is to frustrate and disenfranchise its patriots. Many are almost at a point where they don’t give-a-damn, anymore, about the continuity of their government, or its victories abroad. (They may be “ignorant”, but they know something is very wrong…)
    America is being defeated from within – without firing a shot (as was promised, long ago).

    1. I met Cynthia McKinney during Larken Rose’s IRS trial around the same time she was in the spotlight for her considerations of 9/11, and I was very encouraged to meet a black, female Congressional representative of such articulate means and sincere personality. It is hard to forgive a government which would destroy her for her honor and integrity and fortitude! (We were cheering for Larken. 🙂 )

    2. @ Gilbert Huntly

      “Many are almost at a point where they don’t give-a-damn, anymore, about the continuity of their government…”

      There is a saying I use frequently, “The only thing worse than a bad idea is sticking with it.”

      The government of the USA is a fraud for many reasons and it started out that way in 1787 when the founding whores hijacked an Articles of Confederation meeting on trade and came up with the US Constitution. The meeting was made completely secret after the hijacking. Articles of Confederation delegates from the 13 Nations were forbidden to communicate with their respective Nations. About half of the delegates left in anger, but the whores continued on their mission. One delegate from Maryland, stayed just to keep notes on activities.

      How do you know that the US Constitution was jewish banker’s (Rothschilds) idea? Less than three years (1792) after the Constitution was forcibly ratified, Pennsylvania is a good example, the First Bank of the United States (central bank) was chartered by the whore Congress and George Washington. Twenty years later (1812), the whore Congress approved a recharter of the the First Bank, but Thomas Jefferson refused to approve it at the end of his term. Britain invaded as the Rothschilds said they would without recharter and did so right after James Madison (The Father of the Constitution) took office. The war last about four years to 1816 when peace was achieved and the Second Bank of the United States was charters by the whore Congress and the whore James Madison, the Father of the Constitution. Madison came through twice for the jewish bankers. How’s that for being a real patriot? Propaganda was the only thing that made Madison anything other than a political whore.

      The other clue that the US Constitution was a jewish banker’s idea is the Protocols that clearly stated that they would use Constitutions to gain control. They did. The US Constitution was infected from the very beginning.

      How can I be a patriot to the jewish US government? I can’t. After finding out the truth, I became a patriot to Jesus which is where I should have been my whole life. Jewish bankers are in no way worthy of anyone’s patriotism.

      1. Ungenius –

        FYI, James Madison is known as “the father of The Bill of Rights” (not of the Constitution). Moreover, that, itself, was patterned from George Mason’s Declaration of Rights of Virginia. Nothing “Jewish” about it. 🙂

      2. It should be further noted, Ungenius, that Madison was leaning toward “anti-Federalism”, and only involved himself at the Philadelphia convention to see to it that a particular bill-of-rights was attached to a Constitution which would have been otherwise a document as you say. Because the Constitution had hidden caveats, Thomas Jefferson, George Mason, and Patrick Henry would not present themselves in favor of it, but supported James Madison in his effort to ensure it would not become too much an instrument of tyranny. All these “founders” – including George Washington and Benjamin Franklin – expressed their reservations. In fact, Franklin and Jefferson EXPRESSLY petitioned against allowing Jews citizenship in the new republic.
        I agree. In retrospect, The Articles of Confederation were quite enough. ((The Bill of Rights is what has protected us from blatant usurpation of our liberties.)

      3. @ Gilbert Huntly

        “FYI, James Madison is known as “the father of The Bill of Rights” (not of the Constitution).”

        Madison being considered the Father of the Constitution has been preached and appears in many writings. Even Wikipedia admits to it.

        “He is hailed as the “Father of the Constitution” for his pivotal role in drafting and promoting the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Madison

        “The Bill of Rights is what has protected us from blatant usurpation of our liberties.”

        Obviously, it did not work since every right contained in the Bill of Rights has either been severely suppressed or totally crushed.

        I left off the most important clue that the US Constitution was the jewish bankers’ idea. There is no requirement for the US government to operate within its means which only benefits the usurious jewish bankers that loan the money to the government as it goes into debt.

        I rest my case. 🙂

      4. Ungenius –

        Welcome to the 21st century.

        You have briefly popped out of the new testament times. 🙂

        That is a great Pharisee-Jew source link…. for someone who claims to never use or want links or footnotes…!!

        I provide this reference because you criticized me and Gilbert for doing what you have done here.

        ….

        Ungenius
        December 29, 2016 at 7:41 pm
        @ Gilbert Huntly

        “Mullins’ work would have been more archival had he footnoted his assertions.”

        You have touched upon something that has bothered me ever since high school English classes a long time ago. After about 35 years of water under the bridge to become jew-wised, it dawned on me why my gut bothered me about having to provide footnotes in my youth.

        Footnotes of specific past references is a control mechanism designed to give control of the narrative to the jews and to prevent common sense narratives by the hordes of un-ed-jew-cated.

        The true judge of the value of any literary research work should not be whether it is adequately sourced according to the “rules” (guess who makes the rules), but rather, whether the work makes sense given the knowledge of how something has turned out in reality. Opinions that make sense should become a source, not discarded due to “rules” violations.

        The reason that jews have infested academia is because it gives them control of the narrative. Just as this excellent article addressing Eza Pound reflects, any work not consistent with the designed jewish narrative is buried or eliminated from sourcing over time regardless of how accurate/true the suppressed narrative is. In its place is the jewish desired or created false narrative, so footnotes reflect the later controlled narratives and reality is tossed into the dustbin of fake history.

        As few years back, I started researching the commonly promoted idea that the US Constitution was based on the Iroquois Federation. There was one work done in the latter part of the 19th century that wound up being the common sourced document. I started reading it and was immediately struck with the realization that it read like a modified version of the Old Testament concerning straying from the Federation, not following the rules. I stopped reading the work and started investigating the author. It turns out that he was a European jew. Bang! John 8:44 (jews are liars and murderers) immediately came to mind, so I categorized the document as a fraud and returned to my past undocumented research that revealed that the US Constitution was the jewish bankers’ idea.

        Note, I have not provided any references or footnotes to the above paragraph. Those who do not believe me can stop being lazy and do their own research, provide adequate jewish footnotes, and come to the wrong conclusion without rational thought as designed. Those who do believe what I wrote can accept it and move on to other items of interest to themselves.

        The exchange between John Kirby and Pat above is another example.

        ….

        You called me a “deceiver” and a liar last year:

        Ungenius
        August 2, 2016 at 1:39 am
        @ Pat

        [….]
        This reply is not intended for you since I have known you to be a deceiver for more than a year. It is intended to hopefully cause people to think that might be easily deceived by your perspective. All lies do matter, even yours.

        …….

        I now call you a hypocrite… I won’t use “LIAR”.. 🙂

      5. Pat –

        Ungenius doesn’t realize his links to “wikilinks” are not much compared to my own links to Virginia history (and Eustace Mullins, too). I grew up steeped in history, and have farmed and hunted the very ground of Madison’s home, Montpelier. All my life, I have read and heard stories of our founders (several of whom I can call “ancestors”, including Thomas Nelson, Jr., King Carter, John Buchanan, and Carter Braxton). I am also connected to the Custis family.
        Furthermore, one of my sisters was a junior associate in Eustace Mullins’ uncle’s corporate law firm, and thru her and my shared Alma mater, Washington & Lee, Eustace and I became good friends.
        Ungenius,
        James Madison may be regarded as “father of Constitution” by your Yankee Jew sources, but we who are truly connected with his homeplace and history know he was friends with George Mason enough to be only instrumental in assuring the convention would endorse The Bill of Rights (which, despite your onorous accusations, HAS ensured our well-being from tyranny).

  3. At least I don’t see the “military industrial complex” euphemism anywhere in the article, which is an improvement. I think PCR may be coming around to the view that there is no satisfactory worldly explanation for the evil that’s taken over the “West”, even though the word “Jew” never appears in any of his works.

    Speaking of evil, I believe 9/11 and its aftermath may be the subject of some Biblical prophecy.

    The prophet Daniel apparently saw the same “end-times” “beast” that John saw. That is, the fourth beast of Daniel 7 is apparently the same entity as the first beast of Rev 13.

    Assuming that’s the case, then the “little horn” of Daniel 7:8 may be the same entity as John’s second beast, the beast from the earth, described in Rev 13:11.

    This puzzled me for quite a while, but I did eventually come up with a plausible explanation. Assuming that “horns” are “centers of worldly power”, the fact that the beast has ten horns must mean that the beast is in control of ten distinct centers of worldly power. (Apparently the horns can represent a center of political power, economic power, military power, etc.)

    If the U.S. (although not mentioned anywhere by name) has a prominent role in end-time prophecy, then it’s reasonable to assume that at least some of the horns are associated with it.

    With this in mind, compare Daniel 7:8 and Rev 13:11:

    “I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things” (Daniel 7:8).

    “And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon” (Rev 13:11).

    I believe that what Daniel and John are describing is the post 9/11 consolidation of power into the executive branch of the U.S. government.

    Under the Constitution, we were supposed to have three separate co-equal branches of government that would ostensibly act as “checks and balances” on each other, thereby preventing abuse and limiting government power. But as a direct consequence of 9/11, the three branches have merged into one branch, creating the office of a super-executive, the most powerful and unaccountable seat of worldly power the world has ever seen.

    Thus Daniel’s “little horn” which takes the place of three formerly existing horns is apparently a reference to the post 9/11 office of “president” of the U.S. now transformed into that of a “super-executive”

    And this is apparently the same thing that John saw, only he described it as a beast with two horns; the beast being the office of the super-executive whose two horns represent the legislative and judicial powers which have effectively been ceded to him.

    John tells us:

    “And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed” (Rev 13:12).

    Remember the first beast was given Satan’s “power”, which I believe is the power to deceive. And both Daniel and John tell us about the “mouth” of the super-executive; he speaks “great things” (Daniel 7:8); he speaks “as a dragon” (Rev 13:11).

    In other words, the “president” of the U.S. is a prolific liar. He is an accomplished liar. What did Obama promise? Hope and change. And many people were fooled. What did Chumpster fraudster promise? Diplomacy; non-intervention, America first, etc. And many people were fooled.

    Accomplished liars, all of them, as they MUST BE.

    “(13) And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men (Rev 13:13).

    (Possibly a reference to cruise missile attacks, “hellfire” missiles from drones, MOAB, etc.)

    (14) And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

    He does his “miracles” while in the “sight of the beast”; in other words, the super-executive is a political puppet ruler who takes orders from the first beast. And what is the agenda of the super-executive? The forcible imposition of the Satanic, messianic, Judeo-communist “New World Order” on the whole planet. The goal is a world government (the image of the beast), which would be the fulfillment of Isaiah 14:13,14.

    Speaking of Isaiah 14:14, we see that Satan mocks God; “I will be like the most high”. When I look at everything going on in the world deeply enough, I think I can see many examples of this “mockery”; e.g., God is all powerful – but the beast invented and stockpiled nuclear weapons; God is all-knowing – but the beast created and operates the NSA, etc.

    And 9/11 is an important example: Just as John the Baptist prepared the way, spiritually, for Jesus’ ministry, the beast, by way of 9/11, prepared the way (politically) for the kingdom of the anti-christ.

    (Of course all of this is just my own speculative personal opinion and I could be wrong about any or all of it).

    1. Harold, there may be something to what you say, but only because history always repeats itself. And the paradigm has indeed been set by God. Read your Hegel and understand his concept known as the cunning of reason.

      Now why do you think that PCR, or anyone else, who has mainstream street cred, does not mention the Jews?

      I would argue the reason is that they are not very good Christians in the first place. How can anyone have a beef with a Jew if he doesn’t stand with Christ? After all, everything is permissible if their is no God.

      The Book of Revelation, or as I refer to it, The Book of the Apocalypse is really about the destruction of Jerusalem and Rome and the rise of Christianity. But even that is kind of a ham fisted interpretation. Notice the talk about lamp stands and other furnishings. These are liturgical furnishings. What the Book of the Apocalypse is really about is the Mass. And remember, Apocalypse means unveiling. It does not mean destruction. Too many movies on people’s minds and other societal junk food has caused people to forget what words actually mean. Or, perhaps more correctly, never learned the proper meanings in the first place.

      That Book, is really about the growing pains between the Temple and the Synagogue and the rising Church. Being a Catholic I don’t memorize Scripture to pull it out of my ass when necessary. But remember the part about the 24 elders and the angels consistently bowing down to praise God and the Lamb and consistently crying out, “holy, holy, holy? That’s the Mass. Specifically the Sanctus. This has been prayed at every Catholic Mass since the Resurrection. And it prayed right before the Consecration of bread and wine into the Body and Blood of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. In other words right before the Eucharist. Which is the same Sacrifice of God the Son to God the Father, done in an unbloody manner every day on every altar of the Catholic Church for almost 2000 years. God is outside of time. And every Mass brings Calvary to the present. Because it is the present.

      Most Catholics never really understood all that. As we were poor peasants for the most part. But this was basic stuff to any educated Catholic until very recent times.

      Of course the New Heaven and the New Earth are discussed. But what that Book is really about is the means to that end which requires cooperation from God’s creatures. And that is the Church and the Mass.

      Now if you, not you specifically Harold, but you understood. If you fall into modernist goodly de gook vis a vis the Protestant Heresy, how can you stand up to the Jews? And why should you even identify them? They are simply actors in a drama in which all things are permissible.

      1. The book of Revelation is not about the Mass. Catholics shouldn’t engage any of the prophetic books of Scripture, as this is the most challenging genre, and you need to be Biblically literate to even attempt it.

        Moreover, part of it blows the notion of the Roman Catholic Church out of the water, which is problematic for the RCC’er.

      2. Rich –

        “How can anyone have a beef with a Jew if he doesn’t stand with Christ?”

        Pharisee-Jews lie, cheat and steal. The TALMUD and especially KOL NIDRE give them license there.

        Christians are not the only ones who hate that… or will kill someone for committing crimes like those..!!

        The Pharisee-Jew mafia members themselves, who hate Christ, will kill one of their own for less than $5,000. Bugsy Segal did it for fun…!! He was one of the founders and leaders of Murder, Inc.

        Even atheists don’t appreciate being cheated…!! 🙂

    2. @Harold Smith
      While reading your post of the beast having 10 horns it occurred to me that the UN could represent the beast; the beast being the hidden jew power behind the UN and the 10 regional groupings of the world under Agenda 21 could represent the 10 horns of power.
      Through the 10 horns of power the beast will control the world population and resources. If it is true that the UN represents the beast then the 2nd beast is yet to come: the new false multi polar, multi lateral UN…… coming around the corner. Thank you for your interpretations of the verses, very insightful.

      1. @ SEEB

        You have to make a distinction between the beast itself and the “tools” it may use in pursuit of its agenda. For example I’m quite sure the beast uses the UN when it can to get political cover for its aggression, e.g., a UN Security Council resolution authorizing force supposedly to protect civilians, which is then twisted into authorization for “regime change”.

        In Rev 13 the prophet John gives us several identifying features, so any candidate for the position of first beast (aka “beast from the sea”) would have to fit the description. Thus if it is suggested that “X” is the beast, a plausible argument would have to be proffered explaining in what sense “X” can be seen to have: “feet…as the feet of a bear”; a “mouth, as the mouth of a lion”; a “deadly wound (that) was healed”; etc. (Rev 13:1-3).

  4. The jews indeed follow a script. First they have invented this script. And someway they have forgotten that the script was invented by them. A psychotic mindset.

    1. I believe there are many details of Biblical end-times prophecy that the Jews, clever as they may be, did not “invent”. IOW, there is a divine signature involved here.

      1. “How odd of God to choose the Jews,
        It wasn’t odd, the Jews chose God”

        I do not want to offend the religious people here but the whole religious approach to today’s problems is bizarre. It is mumbo-jumbo. I don’t think the Jewish Lobby Elite are taking a religious approach. I think they are just taking liberties, and they will continue to do so until we stand up to them and says “Enough of this self-serving claptrap”

        The idea that a small group claims to be chosen by some all-powerful supernatural being is ridiculous. If we discovered some unknown tribe in the Jungle who came out with the same line we would be kind and say they were deluded, but Jews are not deluded. They know they are onto a good thing, and religion has very little to do with it. They are like spoilt children, but with lots of money and nuclear weapons.

        They have been exploiting their host countries for 200 years, and probably long before even that

      2. I don’t think the Jewish Lobby Elite are taking a religious approach.

        Oh but they do, they do
        Those Chosen Few…

        “Surely there is no need to seek further proof that our rule is predestined by God? Surely we shall not fail with such wealth to prove that all that evil which for so many centuries we have had to commit has served at the end of ends the cause of true well-being – the bringing of everything into order?”

        “This Chosen One of God is chosen from above to demolish the senseless forces moved by instinct and not reason, by brutishness and not humanness. These forces now triumph in manifestations of robbery and every kind of violence under the mask of principles of freedom and rights. They have overthrown all forms of social order to erect on the ruins the throne of the King of the Jews; but their part will be played out the moment he enters into his kingdom. Then it will be necessary to sweep them away from his path, on which must be left no knot, no splinter. ”

        Etc etc etc

        From their favourite script
        That’s says they’re it.

      3. “I do not want to offend the religious people here but the whole religious approach to today’s problems is bizarre. It is mumbo-jumbo.”

        First, you’re not offending me.

        Second, I’m merely taking some Biblical prophecy that was written a long time ago, and giving one possible interpretation of it, in light of current events. It’s certainly not for everybody. All I can do is lead you to the water; I can’t make you drink.

        Third, what I’ve stated here is not an “approach” to anything, but merely a viewpoint, based in part on my belief in the existence of a spiritual realm in which originate the spiritual forces of “good” and “evil”; forces which affect human behavior.

        “I don’t think the Jewish Lobby Elite are taking a religious approach.”

        They most certainly do take a “religious” approach (to achieve their agenda of world domination and control). For a start, look into some of Karl Marx’ poetry.

        “I think they are just taking liberties, and they will continue to do so until we stand up to them and says ‘Enough of this self-serving claptrap'”.

        The Jews are relatively small in number and generally cowardly. How can you explain their smashing success at enslaving practically all of Western civilization? I generally see it and explain it in terms of a “spiritual war”, in which (to put it simply) the Jews are using their mastery of the spiritual force of evil against us. Thus if you cannot accept the existence of any kind of “spiritual realm”, then any further discussion of the subject is pointless, and you’ll have to be satisfied with “worldly” explanations; e.g., it’s all about “oil”, a “pipeline”, etc.

        “The idea that a small group claims to be chosen by some all-powerful supernatural being is ridiculous.”

        Or so say we goyim, from our vantage point underneath the Jewish boot… Actually the Jewish “God” is Satan.

        “They know they are onto a good thing, and religion has very little to do with it.”

        They use calculated evil (“devil worship”) to destroy us, but they themselves are consumed with the spiritual force of evil, i.e., they’re “demon-possessed”. Such evil is insatiable, and it will lead to the end of their evil empire and the world as we know it. Candid statements from Jewish leaders imply that they’re fully aware of the situation.

        “We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers forever. NOTHING that you will do will meet our needs and demands. We will forever destroy, because we need a world of our own, a God-world, which it is not in your nature to build.” (Maurice Samuel, “You Gentiles” p.155)

      4. I have many times said that christianity is a jewish invention to slave the white goyim with the jews as their pontifices.
        Your last comment shows me that even posters who know the jewish problem have been more brainwashed than they know. My motto without ‘christianity’ there is no judaism, just a cult with a political aim.

      5. @ Mark

        “I have many times said that christianity is a jewish invention to slave the white goyim with the jews as their pontifices.”

        And, every time you have been incorrect.

        I have witnessed and performed healings, controlled the natural elements, and have close friends that have raised the dead and cast out devils. You obviously have no exposure in this arena. Jews do not do these things, so there is no way they could have invented these things that are part of Christianity.

        Judaism/jews were around before Jesus appeared in the flesh as indicated by these quotes from a first century B.C. Roman statesman and writer Marcus Tullius Cicero, “Softly! Softly! I want none but the judges to hear me. The Jews have already gotten me into a fine mess, as they have many other gentleman. I have no desire to furnish further grist for their mills.” (Oration in Defense of Flaccus)

        And, on another occasion Cicero wrote:
”The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how numerous this clique is, how they stick together and what power they exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals and deceivers.”

        Judaism certainly existed before Christianity, so Judaism is not dependent upon the existence of Christianity.

        Every time you make your statements about Christianity being invented by the Jews, you are displaying your ignorance to the world.

    2. @ Mark

      “I have many times said that christianity is a jewish invention to slave the white goyim with the jews as their pontifices.”

      You’ve got it backwards. Christianity (i.e. real Chistianity, not “Zionist” Christianity) is actually a way of resisting Jewish subversion.

      “Your last comment shows me that even posters who know the jewish problem have been more brainwashed than they know.”

      Can you be more specific? Please point out what I said that implies my “brainwashing”.

      “My motto without ‘christianity’ there is no judaism, just a cult with a political aim.”

      But their “aim” is obviously NOT “political”, it is “spiritual”. Their goal is to destroy God’s creation.

      1. @ Harold Smith

        Well said, Harold! Anyone with the slightest intelligence knows that Christianity has provided the main bulwark and core of resistance to Jewish attempts at takeover and world domination. There is now a resurgence of Christianity in Russia. This has increased Putin’s popularity and angered the Jews.

        Anyone who indulges in constant Christ bashing on this site, like the immature and Jew-brainwashed Christ hater Mark, is either a Jew or a Useful Idiot for the Jews. One must treat such subintelligent vermin with utmost contempt.

        Christ-bashing, in my view, is simply a substitute for masturbation.

      2. “One must treat such subintelligent vermin with utmost contempt.”

        I shouldn’t have said that. That was wrong, utterly wrong, and I take it back. I need to rephrase: “One must treat such misguided individuals with compassion and pray for their enlightenment.”

        “Christ-bashing, in my view, is simply a substitute for masturbation.”

        That comment on masturbation is also deplorable. As a penance,
        I won’t post any more comments for the next week.

      3. @ Sardonicus

        As a penance, I won’t post any more comments for the next week.

        Tut tut, you’ve just broken your promise. There are several comments from you today on the new thread…

      4. Sard –

        Russia and Chabad Lubavitch Pharisee-Jews are doing very well thanks to Prezzy ’Put-On’ and the Russian oligarchs.

        Berel Lazar, the Chabad chief rabbi of Russia IS a Putin ally.

        Russian President ‘Put-On’ greeted Russia’s CHABAD Chief Rabbi Berel Lazar in Moscow:
        http://www.jta.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Putin1.jpg

        There is a web of connections with Vladimir Putin and a vast network of Chabad-Lubavitch benefactors and their associates.

        It’s long been known that a set of Russian oligarchs are also Chabad mega-donors, helping seal a mutual admiration society between Chabad leaders in Russia and Vladimir Putin.

        There are personal links between the Russian oligarchs and Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner — who also support Chabad.

  5. LIHOP (Let it happen on purpose)

    This section hypothetically concedes, for the sake of argument, that the events of Sept 11 happened more or less as we were told, and then goes on to show that if this were so then the Govt must have had full foreknowledge and taken conscious and deliberate steps to ensure that the attacks were successful, because they wanted them to happen.

    The second can be called MIHOP (Made it happen on purpose) which demonstrates that in fact, the official version of events is almost complete fiction, and that the atrocity was entirely orchestrated by the Govt and media.

    Within each of these two sections, I will divide the points into those which are major points of evidence and those which are more circumstantial or minor when viewed in isolation, but when taken in total context , act cumulatively to add more weight to the case.

    LIHOP – MAJOR POINTS.

    1.The failure of the US air force to even attempt to intercept any of the allegedly hijacked planes, and the later attempts to cover this up is powerful evidence that if we were being told the truth about the timeline of the alleged hijackings, then the air force must have been ordered to stand down from routine interception procedures.

    2. The movements and actions of GW Bush on the morning and the subsequent lies about where he was, what he was doing and what he knew in the crucial period between 8.45 and 9.45 AM indict him as having foreknowledge of the event and conspiring to deliberately avoid taking any action which might have minimized the impact of the attacks. Similar evidence exists against Acting Chaiman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Richard Myers, Vice President Cheney and Defense Secretary Rumsfeld.

    MINOR POINTS.

    1.The invasion of Afghanistan – supposedly in retaliation – had already been planned prior to Sept 11.
    2 Financial transactions surrounding the soon to be gone WTC towers indicate foreknowledge on the part of certain business interests.

    MIHOP – MAJOR POINTS.

    The WTC towers and WTC 7 were brought down with controlled demolitions, and there is evidence that highly advanced technology was used – not just conventional explosives alone.

    No large aircraft struck the Pentagon. And the flight alleged to have been involved – AA 77 did not even exist.

    No plane crashed in PA. And the plane which flew UA 93 that day was still registered as valid in the FAA aircraft registry for more than 4 years later.

    The object which hit the Nth tower was not a large passenger jet, nor any kind of conventional aircraft. The flight alleged to have been involved – AA 11 – did not exist. The media published faked passenger lists for this non existent flight.

    The footage we were shown on TV of a large plane apparently hitting the WTC Sth is faked. On close examination, the video is a crude animation, and the many different videos all radically contradict each other in the approach to the tower. The plane which flew this flight on the day was still registered as valid in the FAA aircraft registry for more than 4 years after.

    There is no evidence whatsoever that any of the alleged hijackers were aboard any of the flights ( even ignoring the fact that two of the flights did not exist). There is evidence that several of them are still alive, or at least were immediately following Sept 11, and protesting their innocence.

    The alleged “confession tape” of Osama Bin laden is a fake.

    MINOR POINTS.

    There are too many to list here, but as a way of generalization, there are many points presented as evidence for the official story which can only be described as bad cartoon scripts. They are so implausible as to be laughable. There are too many to list here fully, but for example:

    Supposedly , four large planes crashed that day, but the wreckage and the bodies of the occupants were never found, supposedly effectively vaporized by the impact. But somehow, the passports of the alleged hijackers were miraculously found nearby in good enough condition for the FBI to name the suspects within a few days. In addition, although the mythical hijackers had supposedly completed their flight training well before the operation, they somehow found it necessary to take flight manuals in Arabic to the airport and leave them in cars which they had been rented in order to be quickly found by the FBI. As if that wasn’t enough, the luggage of the ringleader Mahommed Atta, was fortuitously left behind at Logan, and just happened to contain instructions to his fellow hijackers. Add to that the ridiculous idea that a plane could be taken over by people with little knives, without the crew first getting the chance to punch in the four digit hijacking code. Not just once – but four times out of four. On the mythical flight 11, they are alleged to have gone on a lengthy shooting and stabbing rampage before gaining entry to the cockpit, and somehow the crew still didn’t activate the code.

    I could go on, but this is just a small sample. In summary – even with evidence positively to the contrary, the official story of the hijackings is intrinsically ludicrous. Such a thing simply could not happen in real life. It’s easy to say “they took over the planes”, but not so easy to describe exactly how this would be possible in real life.

    Perhaps this list of absurdities can be examined in more detail, bit it is more logical to examine the major points first. If there were no hijacked planes to begin with, then the *entire* Govt and media story collapses – without the need for more detailed deconstruction.

    Demonstrating even one of the major points above demonstrates either Govt complicity or orchestration – depending on which point one was to demonstrate.

    Depending on the point which is demonstrated, other parts of the official story might still stand, or they may all collapse, because their founding assumption is gone.

    For example – if one were to demonstrate only the LIHOP evidence, this would still demonstrate treason and mass murder on the part of the administration, even if the demolition argument were to fail.

    If one were to demonstrate only the demolition, this would have a similar effect.

    But if one were to demonstrate the TV fakery in relation to the Sth tower, then the *entire* official story collapses, without the need to individually examine the other points, and it would also directly indict the media in a generic sense.

    Also a note about standards of evidence.

    Weight of evidence is not a yes or no question.

    It is not as if something is either proven or baseless. There are many shades in between. There is such a thing as proof and where it is demonstrated , it is appropriate to call it as such. However there are also situations where one can demonstrate weight of evidence which may stop short of proof but be sufficiently strong that a reasonable person might accept the case as probable truth. There are even situations where the weight of evidence is less than overwhelming but still of sufficient strength to justify strong suspicion that the case may be true.

    By contrast, we see that the official story provides *no* evidence for itself whatsoever. It is an illusion propped up by mere blind faith that if the Govt and media tells us such things, surely they would not lie on such a grand scale.

    This is a case of critical analysis vs blind faith.

    If we apply equal burden of evidence/proof to both sides it is non contest.

    Even the heavily skewed playing field of demanding proof of my case and no evidence whatsoever for the official story will still yield the proof required.

    1. So does everybody here accept that no planes were used on 9/11?

      Or are you all dumb idiots that pretend that remote controlled aluminum planes destroyed 220 floors of concrete and steel?

      Somebody should have an answer other than…It’s not important.

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  6. 9-11 offers great hope. Israel did the deed, and they made a huge mistake and left _evidence_. The evidence that the Twin Towers (and Building 7) were brought down by controlled demolition is amazingly strong. There is no such evidence in the Kennedy assassination, for instance. 9-11 evidence really is in a special class. This evidence is the Thermite Argument. It is irrefutable. To see this argument go to: http://www.bollyn.com/9-11-archive-2013. The Thermite argument is second from the bottom in the Bollyn site’s 2013 archive. That the Jews were the culprits is another argument, but here there is also strong evidence.

  7. How did the massive central cores of the twin Towers vanish? There is a photograph taken before the dust had settled showing the outer cladding leaning outwards, but the central core of the building missing. How could that happen?

    It could not have been any normal explosive or even thermite. The energy required to vaporize that amount of concrete and steel would be way beyond any normal technology. There was something going on there that is still a complete mystery.

  8. The attack on 9-11 was horrendous…. This is much worse… Globally… This is an example of how 9-11 was justified by Pharisee-Jews.

    There are quite a few biblical quotes tossed around here on DM. Most are not from the old testament…. which is where the real dangers still reside.

    The Chabad Lubavitch and Noahide Laws originate there in the Torah.

    Every year – under the radar – since 1978 – Jimmy Carter – Chabad Lubavitch has been officially recognized by Presidents’ Proclamations and Congressional actions. Trump did so this month.

    http://www.chabad.org/therebbe/article_cdo/aid/1167630/jewish/Proclamations.htm

    Pharisee-Jew Chabad members rule the courts.

    Noahide is the lawful(sic) origin of the criminalization of denying the holo-hoax… In US and Russia..!!

    An ‘officer of the court’ tells the world:

    An Open Conversation with Alan Dershowitz
    By Alan Dershowitz

    Influencing the future
    By Alan Dershowitz
    Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz tells of his interactions with the Rebbe since 1951.

    Dershowitz at Chabad
    By Alan Dershowitz
    Professor Alan Dershowitz fields questions on diverse topics ranging from his relationship with the Lubavitcher Rebbe to whether or not international law would permit a preemptive strike against Iran. This Q&A session was filmed at the Chabad House in Miami.

    Refocusing Our Perception
    By Alan Dershowitz
    There are differences. We don’t focus on the differences. We focus on what we have in common.

    Address by Professor Alan Dershowitz
    “Chabad taught us how to have Judaism without the “oy,” but with the joy.”
    By Alan Dershowitz
    International Conference of Chabad-Lubavitch Emissaries – Cheshvan 25, 5766 – November 27, 2005 at the New York Hilton.

    http://www.chabad.org/search/keyword_cdo/kid/12523/jewish/Alan-Dershowitz.htm

  9. Just for clarification, Cynthia McKinney lost her House seat twice. The first time was because she refused to pledge allegiance to Israel as all Congress whores are required to do to maintain their position. She was completely aware of what happened and spoke of it more than once.

  10. Mark –

    “…there is no judaism, just a cult with a political aim.”

    That is 100% CORRECT..!!!

    That’s how they win.. with the lies about race.. while goyim are busy FIGHTING SPIRITS..!!

    They are not a blood-line group. They accept almost anyone. Even Sammy Davis Jr.

    Even spouses of children(any sex) and grandchildren(any sex) are considered Pharisee-Jews…. and could have been prosecuted as such. They seek pity….. an edge for them.

    The 1970 amendment to Law of Return proved it.

    See Law of Return.

    The 1970 amendment of the Law of Return stated that, “The rights of a Jew under this Law and the rights of an oleh under the Nationality Law… are also vested in a child and a grandchild of a Jew, the spouse of a Jew, the spouse of a child of a Jew and the spouse of a grandchild of a Jew.”

    Furthermore, the clause in Amendment number 2, 4a, states:

    The rights of a Jew under this Law and the rights of an oleh under the Nationality Law, 5712-1952***, as well as the rights of an oleh under any other enactment, are also vested in a child and a grandchild of a Jew, the spouse of a Jew, the spouse of a child of a Jew and the spouse of a grandchild of a Jew, except for a person who has been a Jew and has voluntarily changed his/her religion.

    http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/mfa-archive/1950-1959/pages/law%20of%20return%205710-1950.aspx

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