Fear and Trepidation in Tel Aviv: Is Israel losing?

By RAMZI BAROUD

Israel, which has played a precarious role in the Syrian war since 2011, is furious to learn that the future of the conflict is not to its liking.

The six-year-old Syria war is moving to a new stage, perhaps its final. The Syrian government is consolidating its control over most of the populated centers, while the Islamic State Group is losing ground fast – and everywhere.

Areas evacuated by the rapidly disintegrated militant group are up for grabs. There are many hotly contested regions sought over by the government of Bashar al-Assad in Damascus and its allies, on the one hand, and the various anti-Assad opposition groups and their supporters, on the other.

With IS largely vanquished in Iraq – at an extremely high death toll of 40,000 people in Mosul alone – warring parties there are moving west.

Shia militias, emboldened by the Iraq victory, have been pushing westward as far as the Iraq-Syria border, converging with forces loyal to the Syrian government on the other side.

Concurrently, first steps at a permanent ceasefire are bearing fruit, compared to many failed attempts in the past.

Following a ceasefire agreement between the United States and Russia on July 7 at the G-20 meeting in Hamburg, Germany, three provinces in southwestern Syria – bordering Jordan and Israeli-occupied Golan Heights – are now relatively quiet. The agreement is likely to be extended elsewhere.

The Israeli government has made it clear to the US that it is displeased with the agreement, and Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, has been leading strong efforts to undermine the ceasefire.

Netanyahu’s worst fears are, perhaps, actualizing: a solution in Syria that would allow for a permanent Iranian and Hezbollah presence in the country.

In the early phases of the war, such a possibility seemed remote; the constantly changing fortunes in Syria’s brutal combat made the discussion altogether irrelevant.

But things have now changed.

Despite assurances to the contrary, Israel has always been involved in the Syria conflict. Israel’s repeated claims that “it maintains a policy of non-intervention in Syria’s civil war,” only fools US mainstream media.

Not only was Israel involved in the war, it also played no role in the aid efforts, nor did it ever extend a helping hand to Syrian refugees.

Hundreds of thousands of Syrians have perished in the merciless war; many cities and villages were totally destroyed and millions of people become refugees.

While tiny and poor Lebanon has hosted over a million Syrian refugees, every country in the region and many nations around the world have hosted Syrian refugees, as well. Except Israel.

Even a symbolic government proposal to host 100 Syrian orphans was eventually dropped.

However, the nature of the Israeli involvement in Syria is starting to change. The ceasefire, the growing Russian clout and the inconsistent US position has forced Israel to redefine its role.

A sign of the times has been Netanyahu’s frequent visits to Moscow, to persuade the emboldened Russian President, Vladimir Putin, of Israel’s interests.

While Moscow is treading carefully, unlike Washington it hardly perceives Israeli interests as paramount. When Israel shot down a Syrian missile using an arrow missile last March, the Israeli ambassador to Moscow was summoned for reprimand.

The chastising of Israel took place only days after Netanyahu visited Moscow and “made it clear” to Putin that he wants to “prevent any Syrian settlement from leaving ‘Iran and its proxies with a military presence’ in Syria.”

Since the start of the conflict, Israel wanted to appear as if in control of the situation, at least regarding the conflict in southwestern Syria. It bombed targets in Syria as it saw fit, and casually spoke of maintaining regular contacts with certain opposition groups.

In recent comments before European officials, Netanyahu admitted to striking Iranian convoys in Syria ‘dozens of times.”

But without a joint Israeli-US plan, Israel is now emerging as a weak party. Making that realization quite belatedly, Israel is become increasingly frustrated. After years of lobbying, the Obama Administration refused to regard Israel’s objectives in Syria as the driving force behind his government’s policies.

Failing to obtain such support from newly-elected President Donald Trump as well, Israel is now attempting to develop its own independent strategy.

On June 18, the Wall Street Journal reported that Israel has been giving “secret aid” to Syrian rebels, in the form of “cash and humanitarian aid.”

The New York Times reported on July 20 of large shipments of Israeli aid that is “expected to (give) ‘glimmer of hope’ for Syrians.”

Needless to say, giving hope to Syrians is not an Israeli priority. Aside from the frequent bombing and refusal to host any refugees, Israel has occupied the Syrian Golan Heights in 1967 and illegally annexed the territory in 1981.

Instead, Israel’s aim is to infiltrate southern Syria to create a buffer against Iranian, Hezbollah and other hostile forces.

Termed “Operation Good Neighbor,” Israel is working diligently to build ties with various heads of tribes and influential groups in that region.

Yet, the Israeli plan appears to be a flimsy attempt at catching up, as Russia and the US, in addition to their regional allies, seem to be converging on an agreement independent from Israel’s own objectives or even security concerns.

Israeli officials are angry, and feel particularly betrayed by Washington. If things continue to move in this direction, Iran could soon have a secured pathway connecting Tehran to Damascus and Beirut,

Israeli National Security Council head, Yaakov Amidror, threatened in a recent press conference that his country is prepared to move against Iran in Syria, alone.

Vehemently rejecting the ceasefire, Amidror said that the Israeli army will “intervene and destroy every attempt to build (permanent Iranian) infrastructure in Syria.”

Netanyahu’s equally charged statements during his European visit also point at the growing frustration in Tel Aviv.

This stands in sharp contrast from the days when the neoconservatives in Washington managed the Middle East through a vision that was largely, if not fully, consistent with Israeli impulses.

The famed strategy paper prepared by a US study group led by Richard Perle in 1996 is of little use now, as the region is no longer shaped by a country or two.

The paper entitled: “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm”, saw a hostile Arab world masterfully managed by US and Israel.

For a fleeting moment, Tel Aviv hoped that Trump would bring about change to the US attitude.

Indeed, there was that euphoric movement in Israel when the Trump administration struck Syria. But the limited nature of the strike made it clear that the US had no plans for massive military deployment similar to that of Iraq in 2003.

The initial excitement was eventually replaced by cynicism as expressed by this headline in the Monitor: “Netanyahu puts Trump on notice over Syria.”

In 1982, taking advantage of sectarian conflicts, Israel invaded Lebanon and installed a government led by its allies. Those days are long gone.

While Israel remains militarily strong, the region itself has changed and Israel is not the only power holding all the cards.

Moreover, the receding global leadership of the US under Trump makes the Israeli-American duo less effective.

With no alternative allies influential enough to fill the gap, Israel is left, for the first time, with very limited options.

With Russia’s determined return to the Middle East, and the decided retreat by the US, the outcome of the Syria war is almost a foregone conclusion. Surely, this is not the ‘new Syria’ that Israel had hoped for.

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72 thoughts on “Fear and Trepidation in Tel Aviv: Is Israel losing?

  1. the receding global leadership of the US under Trump makes the Israeli-American duo less effective

    THIS is the big secret in plain sight (apparently only the jews see it clearly), Trump’s core strategy, the dagger sticking out of judea’s back … i’ve been saying this all along.
    make america great translates into make judea small and i mean judea, not just israel.
    This is the Rosetta Stone of jew’s boundless fear and hatred of trump, why the mindless, demon-possessed gadarene swine of the Congress strapped the russia sanctions onto trump’s back, to slow him down – the reason for the treason.

    because judea’s true strength, reach, kahal and messianic greed is global, not regional, subduing the goyim (nations) is an international project, which is why judea’s spores are embedded in a distributed fashion in all corners of the planet.
    without US swinging the scourge, the “nations” will run to the safe haven of the big anti-jewish project of the new silk road, the axis of the honest workers, not the temple of holocaust moneychangers.
    It is happening.

    1. @ Lobro

      Thanks for sending LD the link to this article. Full acknowledgements to you for this. Also for the article that is scheduled for publication tomorrow… which in a sense is a continuation of this article by another author.

    2. Lobro,
      I think that Baroud’s thesis is way too optimistic. Regarding those ridiculous new sanctions that Congress voted against Russia (and other countries), Trump did not have to sign the bill. He could have vetoed it and let them override if they chose to. Then, as they are an abrogation of executive authority, he could have taken it to court. By signing it, he foreclosed that possibility. Every time that the going gets tough, tough guy Trump always seems to back down.

      1. Folly –

        You wrote:
        “… ridiculous new sanctions Congress voted against Russia…”

        Congress voted for sanctions against specific criminals, oligarchs and their companies in Russia.

        The rest of Russia is business as usual. GE is doing fine along with Honeywell, Boeing, IBM, HP, Apple, American Express, CITIBANK and Halliburton….. and over 500 other MEMBERS of the American Chamber of Commerce in Russia:
        http://www.amcham.ru

        Western Sanctions have very little effect on Russian economy…. If ANY at all.

        The sanctions are placed ONLY on OLIGARCHS who are Putin’s buddies, and CERTAIN “YUGE” defense companies.

        Sanctions are focused on a limited number of Russian businesses, mainly:
        1–construction giant Stroytransgaz and Bank SMP, which belong to Putin’s judo trainer Arkady Rotenberg;
        2–the state-owned energy firm Rosneft, which is controlled by former Putin’s longtime aide Igor Sechin;
        3–and some well-known defense giants.
        ONLY these named businesses are no longer able to borrow on international markets and are prohibited from owning assets in Western countries.

        And… Western sanctions also prevent a – SMALL GROUP – of Russians from traveling to those countries or doing business with them, and FORBID the transfer to Russia of DUAL-USE military technology and advanced oil exploration equipment ONLY.

        NOW, in weak – “Made-For-TV” – retaliation… ‘Big Bad Vlad’ will put hundreds of high paid Russians out of work at the US Embassy..!! Maybe some big US CORPORATIONS will hire them for cheap.

        That was likely the plan discussed between ‘Put-On’ and the Buffoon…. to help reduce US payrolls there…. And claimed it was about “adoptions.”

        “Adoptions” discussions have been a theme in the Oval Office lately…. since sanctions were “adopted.”

        Adoptions = Sanctions = Adoptions, in ‘White House-speak.’ 🙂

      2. “Trump did not have to sign the bill.”

        Yeah, he kind of did. It is political – avoiding entrapment.

        “President Trump’s Signing Statement makes clear he regards sanctions law as unconstitutional and will challenge it in the Supreme Court rather than have his veto overridden and risk impeachment by trying to veto it.”

        “ … the Presidential Statement published in connection with US President Trump’s signing of the new sanctions law passed against his wishes by the US Congress clearly pointed to an intention to bring a future challenge against the sanctions law to the US Supreme Court.”

        You can read the whole article here:

        http://theduran.com/trump-sidesteps-impeachment-trap-sanctions-law-prepares-challenge-supreme-court/

      3. “Trump did not have to sign the bill.”

        from Dmitry Medvedev’s facebook page, i quote the entire thing for those without access:

        The US President’s signing of the package of new sanctions against Russia will have a few consequences. First, it ends hopes for improving our relations with the new US administration. Second, it is a declaration of a full-fledged economic war on Russia. Third, the Trump administration has shown its total weakness by handing over executive power to Congress in the most humiliating way. This changes the power balance in US political circles.

        What does it mean for them?
        The US establishment fully outwitted Trump; the President is not happy about the new sanctions, yet he could not but sign the bill.
        The issue of new sanctions came about, primarily, as another way to knock Trump down a peg. New steps are to come, and they will ultimately aim to remove him from power.
        A NON-SYSTEMIC PLAYER HAS TO BE REMOVED.
        [Aha! So, the Russians see the game clearly]

        Meanwhile, the interests of the US business community are all but ignored, with politics chosen over a pragmatic approach. Anti-Russian hysteria has become a key part of both US foreign policy (which has occurred many times) and domestic policy (which is a novelty).

        The sanctions regime has been codified and will remain in effect for decades unless a miracle happens.
        This legislation is going to be harsher than the Jackson-Vanik amendment as it is overarching and CANNOT BE LIFTED BY A SPECIAL PRESIDENTIAL ORDER WITHOUT CONGRESS’ APPROVAL.
        [so yes, let’s blame Trump, right?]

        Thus, relations between Russia and the United States are going to be extremely tense regardless of Congress’ makeup and regardless of who is president. Lengthy arguments in international bodies and courts are ahead, as well as rising international tensions and refusal to settle major international issues.

        What does it mean for us? We will steadily continue our work on developing the economy and social sector, take efforts to substitute imports, and solve major national tasks, relying mostly on ourselves. We have learned to do so in the past few years, in conditions of almost closed financial markets as well as foreign investors’ and creditors’ fear of investing in Russia upon penalty of sanctions against third parties and countries. To some extent, this has even been to our advantage, although sanctions are meaningless overall. We will cope

        You can bet that Medvedev didn’t just write this into FB on his own without Kremlin’s vetting.

        From Gilroy’s link

        President Trump’s Signing Statement makes clear he regards sanctions law as unconstitutional and will challenge it in the Supreme Court rather than have his veto overridden and risk impeachment by trying to veto it.

        it doesn’t hurt to deal with facts instead of emotions.

      4. @ Gilroy Kelly,
        I don’t know. You and the article from the Duran may be right, but Trump did have the option of a “pocket veto.” Just let the bill become law without his signature. I’m no lawyer, but it does seem that Trump may have hurt his chances to challenge the bill after he signed it. In any case, why would Congress. with a GOP majority in both Houses, attempt impeachment when all they had to do was override Trump’s veto in the first place? I know that Princess Pelosi, Max Maxine Waters, and Insane McCain are chomping at the bit to impeach Trump, but impeaching him for simply vetoing such a horrendous bill would set a dangerous precedent. And it would probably cost the GOP their majority after the mid-terms.

      5. Lobro –

        You have fought Medvedev bitterly over the years ever since I have been here. When I quoted him, YOU wrote that he was not trustworthy…. and he had Ukrainian jews in his genealogy.

        But, now… since he agrees with YOUR narrative.. he is the expert… and is honest.

        Waffles for the house..!! 🙂

        Here is HIS very EMOTIONAL bloviating quote from you:

        “The US President’s signing of the package of new sanctions against Russia will have a few consequences. First, it ends hopes for improving our relations with the new US administration. Second, it is a declaration of a full-fledged economic war on Russia. Third, the Trump administration has shown its total weakness by handing over executive power to Congress in the most humiliating way. This changes the power balance in US political circles.”

        And it is NOT a “full-fledged economic war on Russia” at all. It is a limited-restraint on his oligarch-banker buddies… and partners with ‘Put-On’… and the $Millions that ‘Put-On’ hustled from the Russian Government thru his buddies’ banks.

        The Act:
        https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/284/text

        The good Russian people only felt it when ‘Put-On’ forced HUNDREDS of them to lose their high-paying jobs at the US Embassy. Totally needless… except for show. Fear the mouse that roars..

        If he takes out enough thugs, and stops stealing, himself… the economy of Russia just might get as “YUGE” as New York’s in a few decades.

        You might want to Tweet to Medvedev:

        “it doesn’t hurt to deal with facts instead of emotions.” 🙂

      6. Pat, speaking of FACTS, what you linked
        a) does not mention “Russia”,
        b) is from 2015.

        so, let’s get back to FACTS

        The US House of Representatives approved by a 419-3 vote on Tuesday a new version of a bill that would impose sweeping sanctions on Russia, Iran and North Korea, and limit President Donald Trump’s ability to lift the restrictions on Moscow.
        The measures target Russia’s defense, intelligence, mining, shipping and railway industries, and restrict dealings with Russian banks and energy companies.
        The proposed bill also considers Russia’s Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project as a threat to Ukraine’s and the European Union’s energy security.

        meanwhile you said:
        “Western Sanctions have very little effect on Russian economy…. If ANY at all.

        The sanctions are placed ONLY on OLIGARCHS who are Putin’s buddies, and CERTAIN “YUGE” defense companies.”
        compare your version (got link?) to the actual case

        German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel and Austrian Chancellor Christian Kern have condemned the draft of new US sanctions, which, they said on June 15, were about “selling American liquefied natural gas and ending the supply of Russian natural gas to the European market.”

        right … buy american LNG shipped over at several times the cost instead of piping it in overland, how very generous, unselfish and protective of European welfare (what was it that the American icon of liberty and democracy, Victoria Nuland said?)

      7. @ Gilroy Kelly

        “‘Trump did not have to sign the bill.’

        Yeah, he kind of did. It is political – avoiding entrapment.”

        No, he kind of didn’t.

        Trump took an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution. He swore to something along the lines of:

        “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

        His lawyers tell him that the sanctions legislation is most likely unconstitutional, so he signs it anyway?
        He’s supposed to PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND the constitution, but he willingly goes along with the effort to trash it?

        He could’ve and should’ve vetoed it, making it publicly known that if he is to be true to his oath of office and the people who elected him, he cannot willingly go along with any legislation that openly defies the constitution.

        He could’ve said something like: “I’ll be happy to work with congress in matters involving sanctions blah blah blah, but I can’t go along with such seriously flawed legislation that sets a dangerous precedent by seriously undermining the critically important feature of “separation of powers” built into our constitution, etc.”

        How is he going to correct any problems, “drain the swamp”, save America, etc., without angering anybody anywhere along the line? He thinks he can accomplish anything without being guided by any kind of principles? Without taking any kind of stand on anything of importance? Without taking any kind of political “risks” whatsoever? Seriously?

        Let’s face it, the bill was so obviously constitutionally questionable that the issue had to be addressed, so he was basically forced to admit that the flaws were recognized, but he obviously did the wrong thing. And that’s because Trump is a complete fraud, IMO.

      8. Follyofwar,

        I do not know how it all works. I suspect either a veto or a “pocket veto” would have led to knocking Trump down a peg. It seems obvious to me he did not want to sign the bill, but he did, so there has to be a good reason for him doing it. I do not understand it all. But, I agree with Trump’s conclusion the bill is unconstitutional.

        ——–

        Pat,

        There is a good read that just went up at The Duran concerning Putin’s comments and Medvedev’s comments that Lobro reference above.

        http://theduran.com/russia-giving-up-on-us-and-trump-administration/

    3. thanks toby,
      in general, no acknowledgments needed, i did not write it, only spotted it and flagged it for your attention … will continue, if that’s ok.

      folly …
      what you suggest is a symbolic protest action, all bark, no teeth, because it has been passed with overpowering majority.
      what i see trump doing is to yield symbolic theatre to jews and that way he coats himself protectively against the incessant jew press attacks, he can say, “look, i am on your side against evil russkies” wink, wink, just as with charges of genocidal sarin attacks by assad against assad, we must punish assad for what he did to assad, here is a cluster of dumb-a-hawks landing in your precious cow pasture.
      But as for the facts on ground, the real action – another story.
      How many times have we seen this duality of action cancelling the talk?
      russia, NK, Syria, China … yes, Iran too, throw in the jew embassy, holo-slipups and omissions, oh, so sorry to have dropped a paperweight on your left toe, oh no, the precious stone vase on your right toe! the horror, the horror …

      the russian sanctions are insane and show how desperate jew really is, he is in a ballistic freakout zone now, must have war tonight, no, yesterday … because they don’t just cover the US firms that might do business with russia but also the EU, which is basically a declaration of war against europe: “acknowledge a suicidal slavery status or else …”, else what? go with BRICS.
      Putin is well aware of the tight spot trump is in and is maneuvering accordingly, he can act instantaneously, whereas jew must push his agenda through media and the retarded congress before seeing action, lots of ways of erring or falling behind the fast moving game.

    4. @Lobro

      THIS is the big secret in plain sight (apparently only the jews see it clearly), Trump’s core strategy, the dagger sticking out of judea’s back … i’ve been saying this all along.
      make america great translates into make judea small and i mean judea, not just israel.

      Pardon the nitpicking, but apparently you should have said “apparently only the jews + Lobro see it clearly” for apparently you can see “it” as clearly, whatever that “it” is.

      If I understood you correctly, “it” is: Tramp’s “make america great translates into make judea small”. That is definitely an interesting read of Tramp’s mind, but, personally, I think that Tramp’s make America great translates into make America great again.

      Let me elaborate. When and what was the highest point of the Anglo-American Empire? We can say precisely when and what it was. It was the period from the collapse of the USSR in 1992 till the point when Putin took the office at the dawn of 2000. During this period of absolute domination in the entire world, America has swallowed something so big that it could not digest. The domination seemed so profound, so unchallengeable, so absolute, and so final that it prompted some jubilant minds to write a book titled “The End of History”. That’s when America has decided that it can do whatever it wants to with the world. No one could challenge it; no one could doubt its superiority.

      But shit happens. It took only 7 years before Putin came out in the open and declared in his Munich speech in 2007 that Russia does not, and will not accept unipolar world with one suzerain, with single center of decision making in world affairs:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_speech_of_Vladimir_Putin

      Now you should understand what make America great again means. America wants to go back to where it was 17 years ago. It is hard to believe today, but back then, in Bill Clinton’s days, America had no budget deficit, as opposed to mindboggling deficit over 10 trillion dollars today, which keeps growing exponentially!

      That’s where Tramp wants to go, dear Lobro. And he is hell bent to do whatever it takes to squash Russia – and everyone else, who has the impudence to challenge America – so that she will never rise again. But that is not a job that can be done with orangutan’s brains.

      Trump will fail, like so many others did before him, who was stupid enough to go against the nature. There should be no doubt about that.

  2. Good article with good news for humanity according to the universal rule :

    “What is good for humanity is bad for Jews, what is good for Jews is bad for humanity”.

    After the battle is over we should have a serious discussion about the return of the Golan Heights to Syria.

    One minor point of criticism :

    Israel’s repeated claims that “it maintains a policy of non-intervention in Syria’s civil war,” only fools US mainstream media.

    This is of course not true, the US mainstream media are nearly for 100% controlled by Jews and therefore simply spread Israeli propaganda.

  3. If and when the Zionist Entity collapses the Jewish interlopers will go scuttling back to their countries of origin like sewer rats emerging from a flooded drain. Most will scurry to the US, or poor unfortunate Germany, who will receive them out of a sense of misplaced guilt.

    1. They are not welcome in any country on our planet. They should embark on a spaceship and search for “a planet without a people for a people without a planet”, to paraphrase a well known Zionist phrase. Let’s hope the universe will not be anti-Semitic too !

      1. Tsk tsk, you are going too far! If you go on like this, you’ll soon give people the impression this is an anti-Semitic site. 🙂

      2. MUNDUS VULT DECIPI — ‘THE WORLD WANTS TO BE DECEIVED’

        It’s been my experience with most people I meet that people WANT to be brainwashed and want to be lied to. Try to tell them The Truth about anything, see what reactions you get. You will come up against a solid wall of stubborness and an absolute refusal to want to hear The Truth. This goes for all subjects, all topics, political, cultural, you name. It goes for BOTH sexes, male and female BOTH. It goes for all races, ethnicities, cultural and religious groups.

        If one is Catholic or familiar and knowledgeable with the Catholic world, one then knows how quick so many Catholics, the great majority, bought into the LIES of the Vatican Second Council. It’s as if they just couldn’t wait to be LIED to, it’s as if they were sitting around just itching to be lied to, how much they loved and still love the LIES of Vatican Two.

        The jews are not the only LIARS around, the jews are not the only ones who LOVE LIES. The jews are very successful spreading their lies and having so many believe their jew lies because so many love LIES and UNTruth. The NON jews who spread lies also have it very easy in that so many are so quick to believe the lies of NON jew LIARS.

        That most people want to be lied to is not a NEW phenomenon from the last 100 years or so. It goes way back in time, the love of lies and the wanting to be lied to, the wanting to be deceived:

        Mundus vult decepi, ergo decipiatur! — “The world wants to be deceived, so let it be deceived!”

        So yes, we can blame the Jews for being LIARS. And they are LIARS. But one also must blame all those who LOVE to be lied to, who love the brainwashing, who want to be deceived, who love Un-Truth, who want UN-reality, who want Falsity and actually demand it.

        That’s why politicians are LIARS: because very few would vote for them if they told the Truth.

      3. @Toby

        Thank you for giving TROJ the credit he deserves. I have to admit that you are better than I have thought of you. Everyone can be mistaken.

        TROJ: As you can see, Uncle is willing to meet you halfway. Please keep it to the point, don’t make Uncle’s life difficult – and yours too, btw – when there is no need for that. Personally, I would like to hear more from you, but you have to meet Uncle the other halfway, so that he can make it happen.

      4. I know I can certainly talk sense, Uncle, that’s why I always talk about the Flat Earth Geocentric TRUTH…..

        (SNIP)

        WE know I am certainly capable of talking sense. That’s EXACTLY why I’m either BANNED OUTRIGHT or under very very intense “Moderation” all over the so-called “Truth” media. I don’t need nor do I want your complIments. I don’t care for compliments. Fuck you and your compliments.

      5. @ Circassian

        MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, Circassian. Take a hike. I’m quite capable of figuring out if Uncle is trying to meet me half way or not. Get lost.

        All these years I’ve been so hassled here at Darkmoon for sharing FACT BASED TRUTH and being treated like garbage for sharing TRUTH and many many times being sent to Spamblinka for sharing FACT BASED TRUTH [ complete with solid source references ], and you NEVER had one word in my favor, not one word in my defense.

        Now Uncle says one little good thing about me and you write in telling me to meet Uncle half way? Go eat shit and go fuck yourself, or go fuck Uncle, you LERV him so much. Show Uncle how much you LERV him, go FUCK him and then shut the fuck up.

      6. (Y)our planet? No, it is not.

        https://youtu.be/ScLDmJF7hRQ

        Planet Earth belongs to its Maker / Creator. Too bad most people do not listen to Him.

        Genesis 1:1 By periods (headships) God created the heaven and the earth.
        1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

      7. Hmmm let’s reason this out. According to Maurice Samuel, they do need a world of their own, but unfortunately they impliedly also need their subhuman goy slaves to build everything for them…but since goyim are not “people” in the eyes of the chosen, you’re technically correct that they need a planet without “people”.

        “We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers forever. NOTHING that you will do will meet our needs and demands. We will forever destroy, because we need a world of our own, a God-world, which it is not in your nature to build.” (Maurice Samuel, “You Gentiles” p.155)

      8. @TROJ

        and you NEVER had one word in my favor, not one word in my defense.

        This is not true Joe. I cannot go back now and search for that comment of mine where I have expressed my take on you as being like the Big Bad John:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdIHBaQ9eJs

        If you took that as some kind of insult then you and I have, certainly, a different understanding of what is good and what is bad.

        Now Uncle says one little good thing about me and you write in telling me to meet Uncle half way? Go eat shit and go fuck yourself, or go fuck Uncle, you LERV him so much. Show Uncle how much you LERV him, go FUCK him and then shut the fuck up.

        Well, I am sorry you feel that way. Be well, brother.

      9. Still laughing Mr. Ryckaert, so spot on is your reply.

        The only thing I might differ with is “Let’s hope the universe will not be anti-Semitic too !” …If it is, then these past ‘masters of deception’ will possibly never return to earth?

      10. I’m all for exiling the jews to a planet in another galaxy far, far, far away from ours. Hopefully we will be able to read about their final (((Exodus))) on our screens in a style similar to the opening titles to Mr Lucas magnum opus. (((John Williams))) score would also be apropriate.

    2. Felix, et al

      Consider that the collapse of the zionist entity is part of the long-term plan. It’s AFTERMATH is what should be of concern.

      In keeping with a common theme I’ve been writing about

    1. FYI – Kissinger denies ever saying that. But a minister of some department of the Egyptian government did say it.

      1. So did Monica Lewinsky and Tzipi Livni, darling: ” I never had sex with that dirty sex manic.”

        On October 14, 2014 Professor Susannah Haschel (Jewish Studies, Dartmouth College) again defended Bill Clinton-Monica Lewinsky sex affair based on Jewish law at The Jewish Week.

        One of 10,000 documents released from the Clinton Presidential Library on Friday last week, one belongs to Haschel, then senior aide to Sen. Hillary Clinton who submitted to the White House: a Talmudic interpretation proving president Bill Clinton was not guilty of adultery.

        “From the perspective of Jewish history, we have to ask how can Jews condemn President Clinton’s behavior as immoral, when we exalt King David? King David had Batsheva’s husband, Uriah, murdered. While David was condemned and punished, he was never thrown off the throne of Israel. On the contrary, he is exalted in our Jewish memory as the unifier of Israel,” Haschel wrote in 1999.

        “According to classical Jewish law, President Clinton did not commit adultery; adultery is defined as a married man having intercourse with a married woman, and Monica Lewinsky is single. At worst, President Clinton is guilty of the common sin of onanism (masturbation), a sin that probably afflicts the consciences of most Jewish men at one time or another,” said the Jan. 27, 1999, e­mail that ended up with White House adviser and political fixer Sidney Blumenthal (father of the ‘self-hating’ US journalist Max Blumenthal).

        Haschel’s interpretation of Jewish law, later helped several American lawmakers, such as, Sen. John Ensign of Nevada who confessed to an extramarital affair with a female campaign staffer married to one of his top Senate staffers.

        https://rehmat1.com/2014/10/19/clintons-monica-adultery-and-strange-jewish-laws/

      2. ‘Kissinger said Israel won’t exist in 10 years’

        New York Post gossip columnist Cindy Adams reports she was told that former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said Israel will not exist in 10 years • Kissinger staffer denies the report, according to Jewish Telegraphic Agency.

        http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=5907

        ——–

        ‘Israel will fall within 10 years, Jewish occupiers must leave’

        Dr. Essam el-Erian, a senior Muslim Brotherhood official and adviser to the Egyptian president, has called on Jews who left Egypt to return, as “Israel will be destroyed within a decade”

        http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=6915

  4. “Fear And Trepidation In Tel Aviv: Is Israel Losing In Syria?”

    My answer is… Israel can only gain.

    Ramzy Baroud wrote, “Without a joint Israeli-US plan, Israel is now emerging as a weak party.”

    There is a ‘JOINT’ Israel-US-Russian plan in the Mideast.

    The CHOSEN Bankers’ plans are unfolding “BIGGLY” in Syria.

    “With Russia’s determined return to the Middle East”… and ‘Put-On’ building a port in Syria and with equipment supplied by the US from its “YUGE” air force base in Adana, Turkey….. Incirlik AFB….
    http://www.incirlik.af.mil/

    …. the CHOSEN Bankers in Israel gain..!!

    Bulldozers and wrecking balls operated by US and Russian civilian ‘contractors’ will clean up places like this in Syria… and put the ‘21st century compliant’ banks and stock trading centers in place of the rubble, with satellite dishes galore to reach Google Clouds:

    (DEFECTIVE LINK DELETED. DESTROYS FORMATING.)

    Russia’s PRIVATE military companies – PMCs – which train in US… can help guard the operations.

    The December 9, 2016 Kremlin celebration of the Fatherland Heroes’ Day brought attention to one of obscure components of Russian clandestine paramilitary capabilities, when a photo featuring President Vladimir Putin and the leadership of the so-called Vagner Private Military Company (VPMC) surfaced on social media.

    The precursors of the current Russian PMCs arose spontaneously, in response to market demands, as it were, both around Russia’s borders and around the world, and which tapped into a large pool of trained veterans of Afghanistan and Chechnya.

    Russian PMCs owe a lot to the United States or other Western powers which used Russian “privateers” in a variety of operations, including in Iraq.

    Pic of ‘Put-On’ with PMC Officers:
    https://www.sott.net/article/341049-Russian-private-military-contractors-in-Syria-and-around-the-world

    Sadly…. Big business – WAR – is STILL good for Israel’s CHOSEN BANKERS..!!

  5. As long as the US gives billions of taxpayer dollars to Israel every year. And as long as the US of I is willing to fight for Israel regardless of how much it destroys our own country, Israel will remain THE major player in the Middle East. Russia may be fighting to preserve the Assad government in Syria, but I don’t see them fighting with the same ferocity AGAINST the Zionist state. Of course, that calculus could change if the US of I moves against Iran.

  6. “Moreover, the receding global leadership of the US under Trump makes the Israeli-American duo less effective.”

    U.S. “global leadership (sic)” will continue to decline under any Jew-puppet president, e.g. Trump, because failure is simply built into the fabric of evil. Evil is insatiable and reckless and ultimately can’t help but destroy itself.

    The decline will probably be faster under Trump than under Obama, because while Obama (in retrospect) showed some modicum of “restraint”, Trump seems to be giving his handlers all the rope they need to quickly hang themselves (and the rest of us too).

    It’s like a parent who can’t say no to a child with an insatiable sweet tooth. The more candy the parent gives to the child (not out of “kindness” but weakness), the faster the child’s teeth will decay. So if the goal is to stop the child from eating so much candy, the weak-willed parent will almost certainly succeed – eventually – but only when the child’s teeth are all decayed to the point that he can’t eat anything. This is the kind of pyrrhic “victory” we will get from Trump, IMO.

    I hope I’m wrong, but I believe that Trump will stop the Jew parasite by cleansing America with nuclear fire.

    1. @ Harold Smith
      ” will stop the Jew parasite by cleansing America with nuclear fire.”
      You are spot on Harold, and it won’t only be the US, but also the contemptible, jackal races in Europe and elsewhere that fawn and grovel to America. Arundhati Roy, the Indian author called it unseemly. And I’m surprised at how many Americans believe that they are actually liked, and are taken in by this flattery. Real friends would tell you when you’re doing wrong. I’m filled with disgust when I encounter young Reagan or Thatcher baby, university graduates babbling their ignorant, platitudinous crap about economics and history. However I have met some who have managed to remain immune to what passes for modern education. So let’s get the nuclear war over with, so the remnants of humanity can rebuild anew.
      You know in your heart of hearts, there is no other way for this narrative to end.

    2. @ Harold Smith

      “Trump seems to be giving his handlers all the rope they need to quickly hang themselves…”

      It appears to be working along with a little slick help. The maneuver to dump Preibus was a classic. First Trump dumbs the WH communications director, a known leaker, with the Mooch. Then Trump rearranges the chain of command so that the Mooch reports straight to him instead of Preibus. The Mooch acts like a loose cannon and fires Preibus while supposedly insulting several others. Trump replaces Preibus with Gen. Kelly. To fix the Mooch “bull in the china shop problem,” Trump fires the Mooch and reverts the chain of command back to the way it was initially as the only way to make Kelly happy. Trump eliminates two leakers, one being the recent past head of the Republican Party and part of the system trying to defeat Trump, and no one blames him for doing so. That’s clever.

      What I am curious to watch is what’s going to occur with Mueller and his assembled group of anti-Trumpers doing the Russian interference investigation con job. Is Trump letting them cluster together for a planned group hammering? Is Trump really frustrated with Sessions or is that to make the Mueller group feel more secure to take more rope? Since Trump hasn’t fired Sessions, I’m thinking it’s the more rope plan.

    1. I hope he doesn’t ask Congress to declare War on Iran and/or North Korea and/or Russia in tonight’s upcoming “Very Big Announcement”.

    2. not a chance, joe, our man trump is better than that.
      in fact, even this 17 day “vacation”, while they are “renovating” (ripping out mossad bugs) WH puts him on his private property, out of assassin’s reach.
      Trump Is Set To Go On A Long Vacation As WH Undergoes Renovations
      i think that if he’d been some benighted renter someplace, they would have got him long ago but with so many giant properties and private security, they can’t draw the bead on him, not like shooting preschoolers in gaza.

      1. @ Lobro

        In addition to what you are saying, I suspect that the potential for serious blowback from the well armed American public is also a consideration. According to a non-establishment pol taken by Fox News during the past few days where each of their pollsters polled 500 people, Trump has 81% support. Interestingly, that is within about 3% of a pol conducted in a similar fashion by a college in Kansas a year ago during the campaign. All things considered, Trump is about as bullet proof as any President can get.

        @ Gilroy Kelly

        Trump addressing the VA horror show is a good way to ensure continued troop support especially if he has to use them to keep the swamp in check when the swamp forces his hand with an engineered economic collapse.

    3. Radio news just announced it. It has to do with the VA and aid for mental health issues. Too many veterans committing suicide. The fat freak in the North with the bad haircut can now come out from under his bed.

  7. sleep tight while YOUR Congress watches over you: 50 Senators Want to Make It a Crime to Boycott Israel

    circassian:

    When and what was the highest point of the Anglo-American Empire? We can say precisely when and what it was. It was the period from the collapse of the USSR in 1992 till the point when Putin took the office at the dawn of 2000. During this period of absolute domination in the entire world, America has swallowed something so big that it could not digest. The domination seemed so profound, so unchallengeable, so absolute, and so final that it prompted some jubilant minds to write a book titled “The End of History”. That’s when America has decided that it can do whatever it wants to with the world. No one could challenge it; no one could doubt its superiority.

    in vain do i search for the word “JEW” in that paragraph, which you seem to consider so fundamentally true.
    Am i to take it that it was the Anglosaxons and true blue Americans who dominated the Russian politics and economy in those days of “Anglo-American” apex?
    Arrogant, drunk on hubris of omnipotence oligarchs with names like Gilbert Huntly, Gilroy Kelly, Harold Smith, someone jubilantly wrote “Anglo-Saxon Century” … which someone?
    Well, the same someone who wrote Project for a New American Century
    Those damn anglos, eh?
    If only they crawled into some hole and died, wouldn’t it be a great world … 😉

    1. There is a great read up on Mondoweiss:

      “Debunking the 2 claims: anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism, and BDS unfairly singles out Israel”

      “Is anti-Zionism a form of anti-Semitism? If it were, then that would mean all Palestinians were morally obligated to endorse their own ethnic cleansing.”

      “Does BDS single out Israel unfairly? This will take a bit more discussion. No, it doesn’t, because Israel is singled out for billions of dollars in U.S. aid each year and singled out for absurdly one sided praise by our politicians and singled out for diplomatic support by the US when it commits war crimes.”

      http://mondoweiss.net/2017/07/zionism-semitism-unfairly/

      1. BDS movement is not anti-Israel. In fact, it legitimizes pre-1967 Jewish occupation of 78% of historic Palestine.

        At Mondowiess you’re not allowed to criticize Judaism or Holocaust.

        Last month, the so-called Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement celebrated its 12th birthday party.

        I have always considered BDS as a Zionist diversion front to fool the nine million Palestinian to end their rights of armed struggle against the Jew terrorists occupying their ancestral homeland since 1948.

        Israeli-born British author, Gilad Atzmon also agrees with my opinion. And so does German philosopher Ludwig Watzal.

        https://rehmat1.com/2017/08/04/bds-turns-12/

    2. @Lobro

      Am i to take it that it was the Anglosaxons and true blue Americans who dominated the Russian politics and economy in those days of “Anglo-American” apex?
      Arrogant, drunk on hubris of omnipotence oligarchs with names like Gilbert Huntly, Gilroy Kelly, Harold Smith, someone jubilantly wrote “Anglo-Saxon Century” … which someone?

      I am glad that you are in good humorous mood today. You are not calling me a Jew anymore – that’s a huge progress in itself.

      The ability to match the name with the ethnicity of the person is undoubtedly a sign of intelligence, Lobro. And, undoubtedly, you have that intelligence. But do you really think that this kind of intelligence is enough to figure out who “dominates in politics”?

      Let me make it easy for you. You wouldn’t deny that the Russians dominated the Polish, the Bulgarian, the Eastern German and all other Eastern European politics during the period from the end of WWII till the collapse of the USSR, would you? They not only dominated it – they completely controlled it. Now, with your name-matching kind of intelligence you would have hard time figuring out who really dominated the politics of those countries at the time, because you wouldn’t find any public figure there with a Russian name.

      Lobro, are you that naïve, or just playing dumb?

  8. American Jewish academic and former UNHRC special rapporteur for the Palestinian Territory occupied by the Zionist entity since 1967, Richard Falk (2008-2014) is the most hated Jewish diplomat by Tel Aviv and Washington. The end of his 6-year mandate was celebrated by no other than US former ambassador at the United Nations Samantha Power.

    Falk in his July 29 blog post, entitled, Geopolitical Dirty dreams: Israel’s ‘Victory Caucus’ – claims that regardless of Donald Trump public rhetoric about his intention to resolve the Israel-Palestinian conflict once for all in order to establish peace and security for Israeli Jews – he is not in the position at home or in the region to election-pledge without Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s blessings.

    “It seems likely that Trump, assuming against all reason and evidence that his presidency survives and settles down, will likely do what Netanyahu and his son-in-law tell him to do; leave Israel free to maintain, and as necessary, intensify its policies of oppression towards the Palestinian people as whole that are cruelly subjugated beneath an overarching structure of apartheid. At the same time the US government will continue to give credence to the Big Lie that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East,” wrote Dr. Falk.

    https://rehmat1.com/2017/08/02/ex-un-envoy-trump-takes-orders-from-netanyahu/

  9. tried to match oligarchs faces with names, not sure i got it right …
    Gilbert Huntly, Gilroy Kelly, Harold Smith
    … somehow it doesn’t seem to fit but at least they do look typically Anglo and i can tell you that each one of the pictured Anglos scooped $ billions from Russia on investment of, oh, maybe $5 and now are busy making the life miserable for Russians through their ownership of the US Congress.

    “Is it good for Anglos?”, is the only thing that the US Congress is concerned with, as it should be.

    1. i wish, if i did, i’d return 99.9% and keep a tiny bit by way of commission, so i can fund some of the well deserving anti-jew sites.

      anyway, i can’t pretend that Lobro is a typical anglo, wasp name, can i.

  10. Gilroy –

    Thanks for the link, Medvedev’s statements buttress the points I have made all along.

    The US will do whatever it takes, to increase tensions, indefinitely, now – and fuel the military $$DEBT for the US and Russia.

    Secondly, this is a way to get Pence in without being elected.

    ‘Put-On’ got in without an election the first time. Appointed ‘Head of State’ by Yeltsin.

    ‘Put-On’ is a willing paid player….. watching it just out of reach…
    …..on a big screen. 🙂

    Medvedev all but told it outright:
    “What does it mean for them? The US establishment fully outwitted Trump; the President is not happy about the new sanctions, yet he could not but sign the bill. The issue of new sanctions came about, primarily, as another way to knock Trump down a peg. NEW steps ARE to come, and they will ultimately aim to REMOVE him from power. A non-systemic player HAS TO BE REMOVED. Meanwhile, the interests of the US business community are all but ignored(lie), with politics chosen over a pragmatic approach. Anti-Russian hysteria has become a key part of both US foreign policy (which has occurred many times) and domestic policy (which is a novelty).

    “The sanctions regime has been codified and will remain in effect FOR DECADES unless a miracle happens. This legislation is going to be harsher than the Jackson-Vanik amendment as it is overarching and cannot be lifted by a special presidential order without Congress’ approval. Thus, relations between Russia and the United States are going to be extremely tense regardless of Congress’ makeup and regardless of who is president. LENGTHY arguments in international bodies and COURTS are ahead, as well as RISING international TENSIONS and refusal to settle major international issues.”

    …..

    They ALL know exactly what they are doing…. scripted…. and we aren’t told. We watch it unfold with ‘Put-On’ and the Buffoon laughing up their sleeves.

    ALL national leaders are LIARS… I saw that, just today, from TROJ..!!

    I guess he’s onto something there..!! 🙂

  11. ADMIN: COMMENT FOUND IN SPAM. Best not to refer to TROJ by name, as you did below, or your comment will go automatically into spam. Refer to him in future as “TROJ”, not as TheRealOriginalJoe.

    MUNDUS VULT DECIPI — ‘THE WORLD WANTS TO BE DECEIVED’

    therealoriginaljoe, your essay is based on the premise people have been given a choice … when borrowing rates are higher than lending rates, jew knows a certain % of population will be economically depressed … then they join the army or police or whatever to serve as jew lackeys or sacrifice in blood rituals … is choosing between democratic and republican a choice? … is choosing between fast food and gmo supermarket a choice? … is choosing between public school and catholic school a choice? … is choosing between atheism and the devil a choice?

    you aren’t evading karma … the devil has you fooled – not even the devil tries to fool god … if y’all are so smart, why do you have to cheat to “win” … why can’t you innovate and create to succeed

    ALL national leaders are LIARS

    goes without saying … but i suppose as long as people are making excuses for their lies, this needs to keep being repeated

    so what if israel gets blown up … jews will pretend to be russians and get reparations for their “suffering” at the hands of the anglo-american military industrial complex that runs the world … u.s.a. is being thrown under the bus

    1. Gosh, I didn’t realize I wrote my “Mundus Vult Decepi” post in order to try to “evade my Karma”. I didn’t know I was being “fooled by the devil” and that’s why I wrote my post. I didn’t know I was “winning”. I didn’t know I was “winning” so I guess I didn’t know the only reason I’m “winning” is because I’m “cheating”. I didn’t even realize I was “cheating”. I didn’t know I was claiming to be “so smart”. Gee, I didn’t realize there was so many things going on in my post when I wrote it. I’ll be careful from now on not to have TOO many things going on at one time in my posts. I hope that allievates your concerns, 🙂 . Thank You, TROJ.

      1. the theatre knows its actors … i was addressing the entire theatre, not just one actor … as i always do

  12. from a syrian comedian Treka, miles and miles and miles better and sharper than anything homegrown, for those with access to facebook, i suspect he’ll end up the way of mourned dieudonne, but his analysis of trump is bang on: he calls it The Biggest FUCK YOU Ever Recorded in Human History !
    Treka the Syrian Comedian Exposes the American media and Politicians in his new video “The Donald Trumps Presidential victory”

    well, the syrians KNOW.
    and moreover (thanks, Ungenius for the “81% support”), ordinary Americans KNOW.
    i guess that the remaining 19% are jews, libtards and collegiate bovines.

    Alright, a few quick items.
    Circassian, athough the history of post-jew Warsaw Pact is poorly researched, i don’t see the relevance of your comment to the fact that it was JEWS, JEWS, JEWS responsible for the infernal depredations once Gorb opened the doors wide to the plague rats, “great Anglo-America” it was not, what exactly did a street American gain from any of these wars and disasters, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, Syria, Yemen, rape of the former East Bloc, disintegration of the USSR, huh?
    Well, Israel sure did … until just now, when it is collapsing onto their yarmulkes.

    Anyway, the topic is how Jews are losing the grip on the fantasy of word dominance, starting with the Middle East backyard and (additionally) that they blame squarely Trump and Putin and that the russia sanctions is an act of revenge (Egyptian 10 plagues) on both as well as an attempt to slow down the rapid decline of the Jew Century witnessed since Jan 21.
    Somebody demonstrate otherwise, how due to “Zionist puppet Trump”, the last 8 months have been triumphal for Jews.

    Gilroy, Ung: directing the funding largess on the veterans is a very bright and decent move and it will be seen as such by the 81%.
    Vets, dumb though they be, are essentially innocent, “a soldier does what soldier is told” and what JEW did was to have tossed them into compost heap once the meat was spoiled by IED’s, PTSD, DU+other poisonings, treated worse than garbage, like the cow “downers” on the way to slaughterhouse.
    Trump changed this, showed that he is a compassionate American and JEW can’t say anything in public, though they hate him for diverting what they see as their money to something that is not Good For JEW.

    1. @Lobro

      Circassian, athough the history of post-jew Warsaw Pact is poorly researched, i don’t see the relevance of your comment to the fact that it was JEWS, JEWS, JEWS responsible for the infernal depredations once Gorb opened the doors wide to the plague rats, “great Anglo-America” it was not, what exactly did a street American gain from any of these wars and disasters, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, Syria, Yemen, rape of the former East Bloc, disintegration of the USSR, huh?

      Again, I am grateful that you are willing to debate important issues while keeping it in civilized and respectful boundaries.

      You have great hopes for Trump. I wouldn’t blame you for that – we all have hopes. My point is rather that your hopes are misplaced. Who is right, and who is wrong? Only time can tell – none of us has a crystal ball.

      I see that you do not see the relevance of my comment. Let me draw then another parallel.

      As evidenced from this Aha! moment of yours:

      A NON-SYSTEMIC PLAYER HAS TO BE REMOVED. [Aha! So, the Russians see the game clearly]

      you place a great importance to the fact that Trump is a non-systematic player. Hitler was also a great non-systematic player, was he not? Hitler and Stalin signed a non-aggression pact, and it seemed that they have been working hard towards the same goal – to make judea small, in your parlance – did it not? Then Hitler turns around and attacks Stalin. Why? We already know your take on that “why?”

      I would suggest, if I may, you start working on your answer to the question “Why Trump did turn around and attack Putin?” when he does, lest you end up again with an answer “Trump was a good man but a dreamer, idealist, terrible psychologist, easily misled”.

      In fact Tramp has already attacked Russia with sanctions, and it will only escalate; you just did not notice that. Putin is not about to make a mistake like the one which is considered by some as the biggest mistake by Stalin ever – to believe that Hitler was reasonable enough not to commit suicide by attacking Russia.

      Toby: please note that this comment is not about Stalin – this is about Trump and what he is up to.

      1. circassian:
        i’d like to take you seriously but then, you must try harder, the following is so transparent as to be laughable

        In fact Tramp has already attacked Russia with sanctions

        is there another person on this globe, out of 7+ billion, who would repeat this joke in full honesty of belief?
        there are solid trump haters here and not one would agree that it was Donald Trump who conceived the Russia sanctions and pushed them through the US Congress as you claim (“In fact Tramp has already attacked Russia with sanctions”).
        Why not say that gilbert huntly has already attacked russia with sanctions, since you also claim that as an anglo-american, he enriched himself through the economic rape of post soviet russia?
        Go on, say it, same thing.

        i will nor even debate this further, only to add, yes, Hitler did mistake the EVIL OF JEW INFILTRATORS (got that, i said JEW, not Stalin, the bolshevism exporting trotsyist jews) who made him think that Stalin was behind it – just as you now, in the reverse direction insist that Putin is to blame Trump for the EVIL OF JEW INFILTRATORS AND AGITPROP directed against russia.
        So yes, the same game, run by the same JEW viper as the last time, only in the reverse direction.
        Thank you for pointing out this “curious” fact.

        the devil’s chosen serpent of eden slithered from russia (7+ million jews in russia pre-1917, less than 200,000 in the States, now the exact opposite, got an explanation? i do) to the united states, made them into jewnited states, shed the skin, grew new one and is now reversing direction to attack russia anew.

        Like some horrible parasitic worm that after growing to 12 foot length in the guts of some cud chewing ruminant is expelled in excrement, spread around in grass and its larvae waiting to be consumed by another animal.
        JEW in a nice little metaphor.

        anyone wishing to deflect the ignominy from jews to trump must try harder, much harder.

      2. Simultaneously defending Putin from one section and Trump from another … all in a day’s work.
        Jobs Report Beats Wall Street Expectations As Unemployment Rate Returns To 16-Year Low
        And instead of crowing about it, the TRUE AMERICAN PRESIDENT does not rest on laurels, he is concerned about all of his people, not just his Elite Base like traitor Bush was

        “But don’t forget, and I will never forget, the millions and millions of people out there that want jobs that don’t register on the unemployment rolls because they gave up looking for jobs.”

        Which is another striking similarity between Trump and Putin, fight for the little, heretofore powerless, voiceless guy and don’t hide from the truth.

      3. @Lobro

        the following is so transparent as to be laughable

        In fact Tramp has already attacked Russia with sanctions

        is there another person on this globe, out of 7+ billion, who would repeat this joke in full honesty of belief?

        The answer is yes, there is. Here is one, his name is Harold Smith – one of the most intelligent commenters around here IMHO (I got the impression that Sardonicus rates his intelligence very high too):

        Comes now the apparent congressional effort to give political cover to Trump’s increasingly hard line on Russia.

        Do you read Harold’s comments, Lobro? I think you, and everyone else here for that matter, should:

        https://www.darkmoon.me/2017/russia-must-die-the-deep-state-has-spoken/#comment-959518

      4. circassian,
        surely you are not trying to widen the base by drawing me into a personal conflict with smith and sardonicus.
        No, you would never do that, it is not in your character as we remember it – so why now? 😉

        This is the true, tried and denounced tactic of the jew troll Gombrich, he was outed as such and banned from further comment – for clearly trying to incite an internal conflict and lasting hostility in the commentariat and administration by appealing to a segment of either in order to trigger a takedown of a particular contributor – me – and it came pretty close to success.
        And then Gombrich would do the honors of debating you instead of me – or would there be a complete agreement?
        Only those in a parallel universe know.

        So, why are you doing it now or is it purely accidental, coincidental and unintentional?
        If Harold Smith is right simply because of his extraordinarily high IQ, then by the very same argument, not only am i wrong but my IQ is rather low – again, you would never, ever say that, would you, we don’t debate at the jungle level, i thought we agreed on that.
        So, rather than letting rumors of someone’s IQ determine the outcome of debate, why not focus on the events on the ground?

        My position is quite simple, if occam’s razor is still a valid approach.
        you claim (appealing to Smith’s contention) that senate and Congress were arm-twisted into backing Trump’s secret plan to attack Putin, pushing incredible unanimity of 98-2 and 419-3 in favor of the sanctions.
        No problem, huh, Circassian, 98 senators and 419 congressmen, Trump grabs them by the throat when no one is watching and tortures the consent out of them – your pure, simple logic, not to mention proof of astronomical IQ.

        sorry, but it takes me time to digest, especially with this …
        and these same congressmen have openly called for Trump’s impeachment

        Warren, one of the country’s leading progressive lawmakers, has good company in Congress. Counting Warren, 26 members of Congress have now mentioned the prospect of impeaching Trump, according to a CNN tally.

        What’s a little impeachment among friends, right?
        Just another example of

        Comes now the apparent congressional effort to give political cover to Trump’s increasingly

        … mm, what, LIKELY IMPEACHMENT that Trump is secretly pushing on himself.

        Auto-impeachment, you could be credited with a new term, Circassian, a revolutionary idea.

        Or, speaking of the “revolutions”, maybe not so new, for example, the murder of the Imperial Romanov family and household, so unfairly blamed on Jews, only a sworn jew hater like me would ever dream of something like that, was not really a murder because it was a mass suicide pact by the crazy royals, they did it and the kind jews rushed in trying to stop it.
        Just as with Trump auto-impeachment.

        Whoo, i feel my brain growing, must have gained a few inches circumference with that discovery, let’s hear the ‘likes” and accolades that i can quote 6 months from now in a similar debate.

      5. additionally, circassian, your prime minister, dmitry medvedev said in a tweet:

        The US establishment fully outwitted Trump; the President is not happy about the new sanctions, yet he could not but sign the bill.
        The issue of new sanctions came about, primarily, as another way to knock Trump down a peg. New steps are to come, and they will ultimately aim to remove him from power.
        A NON-SYSTEMIC PLAYER HAS TO BE REMOVED.

        Given your stated position of a major collusion between trump and the congress, whereby trump dictates to the congress how to vote and considering medvedev’s statement (no doubt carefully considered and filtered, if not ghost-written by kremlin) –
        what is Medvedev, according to your informed opinion, is he a LIAR, a RETARD or a TRAITOR for having said something diametrically opposed to your position?

      6. @Lobro

        circassian,
        surely you are not trying to widen the base by drawing me into a personal conflict with smith and sardonicus.
        No, you would never do that, it is not in your character as we remember it – so why now?

        No, Lobro, I would never do that, it is not in my character. And I cannot think of a better way to prove it to you than promise that I will not respond to your comments, or reference your comments, or even mention your name in my comments in any way – good or bad – if that’s what you would like to happen. Is it good enough?

        Be well, Lobro. I have no hard feelings towards you.

    2. Lobro –

      You wrote:
      “…the topic is how Jews are losing the grip on the fantasy of wor(l)d dominance,”

      1-What IS the grip made of? What is the grip in the question?

      2- Obama enacted the sanctions in 2016, not the Buffoon in DC today. That was the original bill introduced in 2015 and passed in 2016….. Magnitsky Act. The Buffoon renewed it.

      S.284 – Global Magnitsky Human Rights Accountability Act
      https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/284/text

      This tells what is really happening with ‘Put-On’ and the $230 Million he hid in his friends’ BANKS in Russia…. and the mafia thugs:

      Bill Browder’s testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee on Russia, Magnitsky Act
      FULL TEXT: July 26, 2017
      https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3901780/07-26-17-Bill-Browder-Testimony.pdf

      1. Pat,

        This tells what is really happening with ‘Put-On’ and the $230 Million he hid in his friends’ BANKS in Russia…. and the mafia thugs

        i’ve said … MANY, MANY, MANY times:
        • Browder is a jew who stole many $ billions from russia, until putin put a stop to it – is a jew happy with mere $ billions stolen when he could have easily had another hundred or so?
        • his grandfather, Earl Browder was the Trotskyite president of the American Communist Party, a clear and present jew spy and a traitor who deserved hanging for non-stop collaboration to ensure the world spread and victory of bolshevism (i guess he put his pennies aside so little Bill would get a head start and through honest investment acquire multi-billions as an oligarch in the same land where earl “fought for liberation of the proletariat from capitalism“),
        • Magnitsky was a Jew who agitated for all of the above, if Putin didn’t order his killing, he neglected his duty

        and yet, you are so eager to dump all over Putin that you will repeatedly link arms with these evil, lying, hypocrite mutants, just in order to score cheap, totally unverified points – false news at its worst, like taking the word of Caiaphas and the Sanhedrin in order to crucify Christ.

        you are supposed to be the oldest, smartest, wisest, most knowledgeable of us all, to teach us, and not to maneuver us into the Pharisee’s camp.
        How many times did i quote the Protocol 15, where the jew correctly, perspicaciously concludes that the STUPID GOYIM will always sell their brethren downriver in order to score these cheap personal, transient victories, that jews will make the best use of that?
        How many times did i say: NEVER SIDE WITH JEW AGAINST HIS ENEMIES.

        all in vain, it seems, in vain due to myopic vanity.

        in some years time, we’ll both be gone from this and other earthly forums, i try to ensure that the history will not count me as a miserable laughing stock.

        If i err, let it be an intelligent, understandable error, an error of misinformation, rather than a blind refusal to see the obvious trap, or so help me, pulling on the same end of the rope as jews … will you extend downward a tender, helping hand Pat, wait for me to score a violin from our favorite pawnbroker, recommended by Magnitsky-The-Maggot Act?

        ***Browder and Magnitsky, my best buddies, helping me with quotable stuff in the hour of my need***
        LOL

      2. Lobro –

        You wrote:
        “I’ve said … MANY, MANY, MANY times:”

        But NEVER, NEVER, NEVER under oath… in a sworn written statement… to the US Senate… as did Browder..!!

        You took Medvedev’s side just yesterday… Last year he was as evil as Browder in your eyes.. Pass the syrup.. 🙂

  13. Boo hoo hoo
    Poor Netanyahu

    I got news fer ya, pal. Israel is not destined to be a beneficiary, just a means to an end.

    Jews are said to be the “chosen ones”. But this doesn’t mean they are chosen in the sense of being a favorite child. The demiurge doesn’t play favorites. That’s not how the game is played. Rather, they are chosen FOR their suitability as useful idiots in service to a dark master who they don’t VIEW as such in keeping with a shared sociopathic mindset. In the end, though, they ALL outlive their usefulness

    Satan he chooses
    who it him uses
    what for the jews is
    just doin bizness

    what he don’t tell em
    just who is the golem
    for that it would be him
    and they too the goyum

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