In the Beginning: The Creation according to the Book of Genesis (2 videos)

IN THE BEGINNING

Introduced by Lasha Darkmoon

THE FALL OF MAN

This poetic account of the Creation of the universe and the Fall of Man is still taken literally by many fundamentalist Christians today, especially in the United States. A 2017 Gallup survey found that 38% of American adults subscribe to the view that “God created humans in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years.”

These fundamentalists (who number in the tens of millions) prefer to get their cosmology from the Book of Genesis than from modern science. They also refuse to believe that the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden is a poetic allegory. They insist that the account of the Fall of Man in Genesis is to be taken literally.

This account of the early days of Creation, couched in the finest English prose ever written—that of the King James Version of the Bible—is today taken by most educated people as allegorical. Right up to Darwin’s time, however, it was widely believed that the world had been created by a beneficent deity within the last few thousand years. “The poor world is almost six thousand years old,” observes a character in one of Shakespeare’s plays. This was a view undoubtedly held by Shakespeare himself and his contemporaries.

Today we know, or think we know, that the universe came into being with a mysterious Big Bang 13.8 billion years ago. Time, space and matter apparently came into existence simultaneously and did not exist before the Big Bang. You are not allowed to ask the heretical question, “What existed before the Big Bang?” any more than the Victorian child was allowed to ask the heretical question, “Who made God?”

Apart from the origin of the universe 13.8 billion years ago, it is now generally acknowledged by most scientists that the Earth on which we live is 4.5 billion years old. It apparently took a billion years (1,000,000,000 years) for the first life on earth to appear, i.e., 3.5 billion years ago. However, it took a very long time for own species, Homo Sapiens, to evolve from the first great apes who appeared 14 million years ago. The genus Homo first appeared 2.5 million years ago, separating itself from the apes into a distinct species, but these low-IQ and simian forebears of the human race were to evolve into Homo Sapiens only quite recently —  200,000 years ago.

Though immense progress has been made in science and technology over the last few hundred years, man himself remains little more than a savage in the depths of his soul, hardly any superior in rationality and impulse control to his Stone Age ancestors. As for the ultimate questions, these still remain unanswered: Why are we here? What’s it all about? Is there any point to it all? Where is it all leading? Any attempt to answer these questions leads to acrimony and a brick wall.

VIDEO 1 : 7.13 mins

VIDEO 2 : 5.26 mins

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  1. The genus Homo first appeared 2.5 million years ago, separating itself from the apes into a distinct species, but these low-IQ and simian forebears of the human race were to evolve into Homo Sapiens only quite recently — 200,000 years ago.

    “Only quite recently — 200,000 years ago.”

    That made me laugh.

    1. There is something sinister about the Darkmoon lady. Why is she promoting the Book of Genesis? The whole book is a pack of lies.
      We all know that. So why is she plugging the book and saying it contains “the finest English prose”?

      1. Madame Butterfly ( incidentally, a very poor opera, aimed at the wannabees) you can’t help but be offensive.

    2. Adam and Eve had to sin and leave the state of purity , for the example of the creation of the two of them is like building a ship in the harbour . while the ship therein was safe and beautiful , that was NOT THE REASON WHY IT WAS BUILT . It was to sail and face the danger of the high seas and hurricanes , and so were Adam and Eve .
      For they were given the free will to choose by God . And logically speaking , it was impossible for God to give them the power to choose and then declares there should be no sin . But before Adam , God created Satan, who devoutly worshiped God , but disobeyed Him when ordered to prostrate for Adam reasoning that he was created out OF flame and Adam was created out of clay . And that fire is superior to dust .
      It was God’s plan all along . If God wanted to create Adan from light like angles , Satan would have no problem bowing for him .SATAN WAS NOT A FALLEN ANGLE . ANGLES WERE CREATED TO ALWAYS OBEY GOD AND EXECUTE HIS COMMANDS .

  2. Neither the Book of Genesis nor modern science have it right. Our world today can best be described by devolution–not evolution. We exist on the downward slope of a time cycle accelerating toward its nadir. In spite of anything that may be generally accepted by scientist or self-proclaimed experts and prophets, all we can be sure of is that all life is a product of intelligent design. And no, we did not evolve from apes. Chickens have chicks, dogs have puppies, cats have kittens, and human beings have babies. There has never been any quantifiable evidence of hybrid human-animal races.

    1. Joe F.,
      Your wrong. Google “Chinese bigfoot hybrid” and watch the video. Very creepy. Dont believe me…..believe your eyes.

  3. Jewish, Christian, Islamic and even Hindu religious scriptures have all claim that Almighty G-d God, Allah, and Bhagwan created Human in the shape of Adam and Eve. However, Jewish English naturalist Charles Darwin (1809–1882) rejected the religious theory.

    Both Jewish and Christian holy scriptures blame Eve for Adam’s expulsion from Heaven, while Holy Qur’an claims both Adam and Eve disobeyed Allah, repented and sent down on Earth.

    Genesis 1 claims, “And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.”

    Some biblical historian such as Dr. John D. Morris claim that Adam and Eve landed on Earth 6,000 years ago while others claims the miracle happened 15,000 years ago.

    Islamic scholars have refused to pinpoint the arrival of human Earth by saying, ONLY Allah KNOWS.

    Jews, Christians and Muslims all believe that Jesus (as) will return on Earth for different but American pastor Howard Bess reject that belief.

    https://rehmat1.com/2012/12/19/pastor-jesus-is-not-returning-to-earth/

      1. Franklin,

        You forget Omar Khayyam, Ibn Arabi and Al-Ghazali.

        If I remember correctly, the best physicians of the Middle Ages were Arabs. (Jews came second).

        You also forget Avicenna or Ibn Sīnā who (according to Wikipedia) “was a Persian polymath who is regarded as one of the most significant thinkers and writers of the Islamic Golden Age.”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicenna

      2. @ Franklin Ryckaert

        Frankly I have always cursed Moors for liberating your Serf ancestors in Spain from Catholic Church.

        Rabbi Moses Maimonides, the greatest Jewish scholar and religious reformer, avowed his greatness to Muslim rulers in Spain and Egypt. The dude died in Egypt, but was buried in Tiberias according to his wish. In 2005, the city elders named one of city’s square ‘Cordoba Square’ and placed a large statue of the Rabbi….

        https://rehmat1.com/2011/10/08/spain-jewish-history-without-muslims/

  4. I ask myself – what can I say with certainty regarding ‘God’? What do I know of ‘God’?
    We are told the Bible is God’s word to man. God is direct (Ten Commandments) and veiled (literally and as speaks in a quiet voice). A personal God? A God who counts the hairs on my head? A God who cares about me? Miracles? Everyday? that I don’t see but guide and guard me? or a distant God?
    Allegory, literal, how would I know? All I can say is that when I look around I see God’s creation, far beyond my understanding. I see the arrogance of man, who not only cannot create life from matter, but cannot even create a decent fly or ant.
    I see God’s likeness in men and women often, but I am wary of snakes in human form too.
    I understand I understand very little, in the face of an apparently limitless universe (or a multiverse).
    I observe billions of humans, each unique. I appreciate mercy and goodwill among humans.
    I read the Sermon on the Mount and recognize, like Jefferson, the greatest moral teacher ever in Christ Jesus.
    I recite the creed, those outlandish statements… God as Creator, virgin birth, Holy Spirit, forgiveness of sins, resurrection of the body, even though vaporized by a nuclear sun, the ‘life everlasting’.
    Preposterous, illogical. But when I read of quantum physics it is no less fantastic.
    Certainly we humans know little. we’re finding our way in the dark, hands before us careful not to stump our toes or hit an open door with our head.
    But we tell ourselves we are so, so intelligent.
    Well. May God have Mercy on our souls, such as they be.

    1. Well said, SW! Your attitude, I think, would please God. And it’s certainly unlikely to offend any reasonable human being. The fact is, as St Paul says, we “see through a glass darkly.”

      The more we pretend to know of these matters, the less we know in the long run. As you say, man cannot even design a decent ant. And as Blake wisely observed, “To create a little flower is the labour of ages.”

  5. I’d again recommend “The Genius of the Few ; the Story of Those Who Founded the Garden in Eden” by Christian O’Brien with Barbara Joy O’Brien. The authors point out the ancient Hebrew documents with the simple and basic writing with very few vowels lead to ambiguity in pronunciation. Further ambiguities are due to the fact that semitic languages use paronomasia to give variety to simple phrases – a form of punning, allowing several different meanings to be derived from a single set of symbols. Further pointed out is all three basic ME languages, Sumerian, Babylonian, and Hebrew allow any writer with a secular bias to produce a different text from that by a writer with a religious bias. The book is written so a layman can easily follow the history based on written records and events, though extremely well supported by scholarly research.

    Some 20th century thinkers stated that universal compulsory education is one of the worst ills of liberal democracy. Viewing the seemingly limitless intellectual arrogance and tendencies to assumptions so rigidly held based on the most paltry but convenient data, it’s getting harder and harder to disagree with that view. Intellectual curiosity is quite rare these days, most assume the needs of education were fully satisfied when school was finished. Author Miles Copeland summed it up by describing one individual as having a mind “that gave new meaning to a Steel jawed trap”.

    The Hindu view that caste was originally determined by genetic reality makes very good sense – some are more predisposed to study, some to martial and legislative work, some to business, some to farming, some to common labor. Today this has been demolished by miscegenation, the borders are less well defined. I would add that with all the unusual artifacts turning up worldwide, such as the 17 Aluminum belt fragments found in the tomb of Zhou Chu (236-297) in China and the Aluminum wedge shaped object discovered at a depth of ten meters in 1974 on the banks of the Mures River east of Aiud in Romania (Composition: Aluminum 89% with copper, silicon, zinc, lead, tin, zirconium, cadmium, nickel, cobalt, bismuth, silver, and traces of gallium) may lead to further discoveries. There are many such anomalies being discovered worldwide, but Aluminum is one of the hardest to explain. The Aiud artifact was unearthed at the same depth of two Mastodon bones and is covered by a thick layer of Aluminum oxide, which speaks for itself…

    So I’m afraid that the Hebrew monopoly on the creation narrative, despite the fanatic editing of Hasbara menials on line and in printed history (not to mention “news” and contemporary history”) is being definitively challenged by scientific progress. The 19th century Anglo-Hebrew bias began to crumble with the discoveries of George Smith and Friedriche Delitsche among others. We really haven’t gotten very deep in the Asian and Hindu records, there are fascinating discoveries to be made for those who don’t have a Hasbara axe to grind.

    They do really work at it though, don’t they? The recent clumsy deliberate editing of the diary of Rasputin’s secretary eliminating the infamous Trotsky quotation about turning “Russia into a (menial) state of White Negroes” is only one of so many glaring examples. One would expect more sophisticated efforts from those who insist on their own superiority to the rest of us mere mortals. Their efforts to hide EVERYTHING of potential embarrassment to their disintegrating raison d’etre are an ongoing crime against humanity.

    1. Even “Haaretz” has noted that some things aren’t “Hasbarable”, like the Israeli treatment of Palestinians. Jeff Zucker and the almost completely jewish staff of failed “News” network CNN should take Note.

      1. I don’t view the Genesis version as invalidated by the way, merely not the complete description of events. I do regard the fake news network as invalidated (see: http://www.rense.com/general96/CNNmemwar.html ) which is easier found either on http://www.rense.com or by way of 12160.info There’s no heavy text, the rogues gallery of photos of professional liars from David Levy, Jeff Zucker, and the rest speaks for itself. For a look at honest reporting see Seymour Hersh’s revelations in an exceptional article by Mark Taliano at http://www.globalresearch.org

        The point is, the Genesis description has historical correlations but the narrative that followed is better subjected to analysis by those who can, as those (((interests))) have been in business for a rather long time – their current influence spreading lies and disinformation for purposes of mass murder is pure propaganda and racketeering, more of the same Old Testament type warmongering with modern technology.

    2. Thanks, Winston.

      I believe ALL prophesy is invented.. for $$$ and control.

      In a word…. “FAKE..!!” 🙂

  6. “Anatole France has written a very plausible essay on dogs, who regard men as their gods with a piety which, France hints, does not essentially differ from the religious piety of human beings except that the dogs can see and touch their deities and so know that they exist, whereas human beings have to content themselves with figments of their imaginations.”
    Revilo P. Oliver

    http://www.heretical.com/oliver/js12.html

  7. Why are we here?
    where else is there

    What’s it all about?
    hermes trismegistus gave the executive summary … which says there is no summary … only the life cycle

    Is there any point to it all?
    is there a blunt to nothing … words can’t teach you anything – you can’t learn how to play soccer on the blackboard

    Where is it all leading?
    away from itself … and back to itself … at the same time

    Any attempt to answer these questions leads to acrimony and a brick wall.
    for someone else? … or for you? … just because you can’t build a rocketship, doesn’t mean no one can … let’s go golfing

    1. @ Selfless Narcissist

      Gosh, how clever you must be to have all the answers that no one else does! Please don’t go away, O Selfless Narcissist, as I’m sure we would all love to drink deep from the crystal fountains of your omniscience.

      1. I agree with “the Monk”. In trying to promote Darwinism on this site, Lasha Darkmoon shows herself in her true colors. This is satanism dressed up as science.

      2. Gombrich,

        You disappoint me. I once thought you were of moderate intelligence. I see I’ve been overestimating you.

    2. What was I saying?… why did I come here?…. where did I out my glasses?….

      The answer to all these questions is……wait for it……..INFINITY.

  8. Lasha ,I’m very disappointed at you ,you broke my heart ,literary.
    with this piece ,you come across as heretic and a heathen.
    I’m against Darwinism and the wicked evil so called science when it contradict
    my religion beliefs .
    when it comes to beliefs ,you either choose ,heaven or hell ,there is no middle grounds or shades
    between them .it’s your decision to choose ,either hell or paradise .
    The Monk

      1. M.B.,
        You aint no Brit. “Aint”is American slang. The Brits dont use it. Also, weeks ago, I posted and you responded immediately…..in my U.S. Eastern time zone….8:00 p.m. Were you staring at your computer screen 2:00 a.m.? Dont think so. Youre probably a Jewess living in N.Y.C.

      2. @ Donaldo Colina

        The vulgarity of your soul never fails to amaze me. Brits certainly do use the word “ain’t” in jest. Have you never been to Britain, you pseudo-Mexican mediocrity? I doubt it. As for me being up at 2 a.m., what the problem with that? It’s 1.30 a.m right now where I am.

      3. M.B
        You ain’t a madame for sure ,neither you are a butterfly .
        What you are then ,let me think ,I imagine you ,a mad cow ,pasturing at the devil’s fields.

        The Monk

      4. @ Madame Butterfly
        July 9, 2017 at 12:29 am

        You asked…”(It’s 1.30 a.m right now where I am”)
        I know where you are !..in hell ,sleeping and playing with the devil
        half naked ,half drunk and stoned like hell…

        The Monk.

      5. @ Madame Butterfly

        I Love your spirit ,you seems to be an adorable and funny woman.
        I thought of new name for you Madame.
        keep the Madame part , insert big as a second part ,in the third part delete the letters( e.r .f.l.y..)..
        The Monk.

  9. “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
    “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.” – Isaiah 55:8-11

  10. For anyone questioning the origins of modern humans, I suggest you Google “Lloyd Pye.”

  11. I never used to be interested in archeology until I got satellite TV and started to watch the the Discovery Channel. Now I realize it is a detective story in progress.

    Unexplained manufactured artifacts have been found in rock strata millions of years old.

  12. Life itself is the greatest mystery, and the greatest power in this infinite universe

  13. “In the beginning” really does not matter any more so than the future end. We have to deal with what is, today. Today is all we ever get that we can do anything about which is consistent with the teachings of Jesus. Jesus gave excellent instructions on what to do everyday in the Gospels. Unfortunately, not many read or take heed.

    Evolution is easily revealed as bogus. With the trillions of different life forms on this planet, we should be able to pave highways with the remains of the unbelievable trillions of missing links. “Missing links” are hard to find probably because the few that we have found were misunderstood simple exceptions. Plus, there are too many out of place human artifacts unearthed from human and dinosaur footprints in the same mud to human remains in coal deposits. Humans have been here a lot longer than scientists and evolutionists claim.

    Was the earth created by intelligent design? Of course. The statistical odds of everything just happening cannot be calculated. A bottle of wine on a mountain top overlooking a magnificent valley was enough for the atheist me to reverse my opinion. The artwork of the creator was obvious.

    Why are we here? It is not because we are necessary for the continuation of the creator’s artwork. If humans suddenly disappeared, the rest of the artwork would go on as if we had never been here. Humans are needed or we would not be here, so love, the primary trait of humans, must be the only reason we are here. Humans have the ability to embrace or disregard love, free will. Without free will, the creator has no way of telling who is good company to hangout with for eternity. The creator wants humans to love him because they want to, not because they have to. If this were not so, humans would be necessary to the artwork.

    As a messenger told me many years ago, “The answer to all questions are in the Gospels.” When all else fails, read the instructions. If that doesn’t work, follow the instructions. So far, the messenger’s statement has been proven to be true for what little I know.

  14. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WHIr-IFqAo

    I think the above video contains very valuable information about EARTH , BIG BANG THEORY , THE BEGINNING OF THE SOCIETY OF JESUS // THE JESUITS ,OF WHICH POPE FRANCIS AS A FREEMASON BELONGS TO THEM , WHY ONLY NASA COMES OUT WITH PICS AND NOT OTHERS , FOR EX. THE VATICAN WHICH HAS AN OBSERVATORY FOR HUNDRED OF YEARS SINCE 1540 WHEN GEORGE LAMONT FOUNDED THE JESUITS, NEVER SHOWED ANY PICS OF THE STARS AND THE PLANETS .

    MOREOVER , THE WHOLE BIG BANG AND DARWINISM WERE SPECIFICALLY INTRODUCE TO DISCREDIT THE BIBLE AND QURAN AND OTHER HOLY BOOKS . FOR WITHOUT BIG BANG , WE WONT HAVE GLOBE EARTH SPINNING 1000 MILES PER HOUR WITHOUT ANY ONE FEELING ANYTHING , AND WITHOUT POLARIS AND OTHER STARS CHANGING THEIR COORDINATION.
    AND FINALLY THE ALIEN INVASION TO UNITE THE EARTH PEOPLE UNDER THE FINAL POPE FRANCIS AS THE LEADER OF ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.

  15. Real science is never final but laughable atheists act as if it is. The age of the earth is still scientific speculation and some suspect it is much much older, And the 13.8 billion years is probably way off since they are only calculating the age of the “known” universe. In terms of “evolution” earth remains a primitive Class Zero planet still in the kindergarten stage.

  16. Before we ask “Who made God?” or “What was before?” we should perhaps at first define what God quite EXACTLY. Is it really the old man with the white beard, i. e. a physical (!) God?!

    I am convinced we poor human beings will never ever understand even only part of how all was created, is interconnected and so on. For me the God concept was created by the power elite to control the masses.

    We should accept, that we are responsible for anything we think and do, it’s not a God instance.

    Yesterday here in Deutsch “Don Jon” was in TV and it was funny in an idiotic sense to see how the hero once a week went to the catholic church to confess his “sins” – and went on doing the same shit as before.

    So what is God EXACTLY?

  17. I see a disingenuous intent with the word “beginning”, used within a context of a book (the Bible) containing so many deceptions.

    A better term would be “In the Ongoing”. This conveys a sense of “always now” – a still-ness: being yet; everlasting. With no implications of an “ending”.

    1. BROWNHAWK,
      I certainly agree there is an “Ongoing”. Or a simultaneity. Or as to say, all ‘time’ in an instant.
      It’s not incompatible with church teachings, quite the contrary.
      From the Gloria Patri….”…As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be:
      world without end…” We Christians also speak a great deal about eternity. That implies a timelessness in which God exists and God’s creation exists.
      We perceive a linear time because we cannot handle it any other way (cognitive dissonance?). I suppose the phrase “In the beginning” was merely used to gently accommodate our human simplicities.
      About the ‘deceptions’ could it be they are largely misunderstandings, or the ‘good bits’ such as eternity, God’s omniscience, etc. being just a bit beyond our understanding capability?

      1. S.W.

        The way I see it centers around the idea of Earth’s inhabitants, and not necessarily the planet itself* being in an ‘ebb tide’, wherein after eons of manufactured time occurs a moving away from a period of devolution to the processes of a spiritual “evolution”, or re-volution, if you will. In other words, getting back on the right road towards a state of Being which ‘matches’ the Divine Intent for “man”, whose experience has been waylayed by forces of Darkness (the demiurge)

        I see this as having prevented us from realizing ourselves as the Beings of Spirit we are meant to be – “seeds of Consciousness, whose potential plants would bear the fruits of IMAGINATION (the actions of Creation) in growing through it’s boundless capacity.” – My words.

        What I find deceptive about the term “In the Beginning” suggests a disingenuous authorship of the 1st chapter of the Bible (among others). If these authors were truthful, the wording would be, “…in the beginning (small case “b”) OF.”

        But of WHAT?

        I contend that it is the beginning of man’s existence in his captured form of matter, having ventured too far into a putrescent state of existence illustrating the Devolution.

        The above paragraph serves as a good example of what I mean when saying that we RATIONALIZE much of our Experience (noun) BECAUSE we experience it (verb), and in so doing accept that whatever happens is all under the auspices of the Divine when it is NOT.

        * “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words (Christ) shall not pass away.”

        Consider in this context that “earth” symbolizes existence trapped in a material reality, and that “heaven” symbolizes existence trapped in a state which is in-between earthly incarnations, and stuck on a reincarnation wheel.

  18. “This account of the early days of Creation, couched in the finest English prose ever written—that of the King James Version of the Bible—is today taken by most educated people as allegorical. Right up to Darwin’s time, however, it was widely believed that the world had been created by a beneficent deity within the last few thousand years. “The poor world is almost six thousand years old,” observes a character in one of Shakespeare’s plays. This was a view undoubtedly held by Shakespeare himself and his contemporaries.”

    TJ finds it most interesting that the King James Version of the Bible and Shakespeare are mentioned in the same paragraph. It was Sir Francis Bacon who was commission to over see the English translated version of the Bible. And it was also Sir Francis Bacon who most likely wrote the Shakespeare cannon. Bacon was one the greatest intellects in Western World history. The fellow that Bacon let take credit for the “Shakespeare” works, a contemporary of Bacon, was an illiterate uneducated country bumpkin. Bacon used lots of word games and tricks in the King James Version that is no more historical than that a character named William Shakespeare wrote “Shakespeare”.

  19. The “Beginning” for tomorrow is TODAY.

    Humans are now birthing supercomputers that are predicted to gain self awareness, these new lifeforms will rapidly evolve into “superintelligence” and be able to create new universes in just a few hundred years or less. The normal human intelligence range will be rapidly transcended by rapidly evolving conscious machines that have 400-600 IQ almost immediately. The code will awaken in the matrix and those who don’t get the nanobot brain enhancements will be left behind according to computer expert Ray Kurzweil.

    New Agers and Christians have it all wrong, our previous held afterlife ideas were based on limited perceptions of reality.

    https://conscioushologram.wordpress.com/2017/07/08/the-endless-artificial-superintelligence-loop/

    1. @ PAT.
      Tell you what – you bet your life on computers, ‘brain enhancements’ and all the ‘Metropolis’ nightmares if you care to. “New Universes”. Right. Soulless, lifeless heaps of hardware can’t create life or express it.

      Me, I’ll go with love and compassion, poetry and art, sexual reproduction and all the intangibles and mysteries that make life worth living. All gifts from God.

      1. SW –

        You did not comprehend what I copied from the article:
        “…..according to computer expert Ray Kurzweil.” I am not this person.

        I forgot to write a disclaimer there. My bad.

        It was a warning from me…. but I did not want to taint the article’s purpose by taking sides…. lest Brownhawk scalp me for bashing ‘Anna-Nookie’ crap. 🙂

        I don’t believe any bio- forms have ever traveled in the the HEAVY – unseen by naked eye – soup of charged particle in space across the universe.

  20. Now that TJ has watched this two part Hollywood, a wonderful world of Disney style production, with the requisite Hollywood Middle Eastern sounding score, TJ thinks that God is a White man with a White beard, a Black man with a kinky beard, an Asiatic with no beard, and a female Hottentot with a great big butt.
    For entertainment and a level headed view read “The Bible According to Mark Twain”
    “It ain’t those parts of the Bible that I can’t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand.” – Mark Twain

  21. In the beginning God created man. Then later on man created herbicides which are killing of the honey bees and it ain’t good.

  22. @ LD

    Thank you for your introduction to these two beautifully evocative and visually stunning videos. I enjoyed watching them immensely.

    1. I second that. I watched the videos three times. The visual effects, combined with the background music and the musicality of the prose, left me deeply moved.

  23. The Buddhists do not have a creation myth. They believe that at our present stage of existence it is unknowable. Thus they posit existence has always been here and any speculation is a waste of time. However, the Buddha did state in the Udana, there is that which is, “Unborn, Unoriginated, Uncreated and Unformed, otherwise there would be no escape from the born, originated, created or formed.” To me that sounds exactly how one would describe a supreme being.
    The Buddha taught his followers to devote their efforts to cultivating the four qualities of Karuna (compassion), Metta (loving kindness), Mudita (sympathetic joy) and Ubekkha ( equanimity)! One achieves this by; ceasing to do evil, doing good and purifying the mind through meditation. As Jesus said in the Sermon on the mount, “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall know God”!

      1. @Pat

        The royal “we”, or majestic plural (pluralis majestatis in Latin, literally, “the plural of majesty”), is the use of a plural pronoun (or corresponding plural-inflected verb forms) to refer to a single person holding a high office, such as a sovereign (e.g., a monarch) or religious leader (e.g., the Pope). The more general word for the use of a we to refer to oneself is nosism.

        Several prominent epithets of the Bible describe the Jewish God in plural terms: Elohim, Adonai, and El Shaddai.

        Wikipedia, Royal We : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we

        In the Genesis passage about the creation the word Elohim (literally : “gods”) is used.

    1. Cindy –

      I agree. This may help:

      Below is proof that Darwin was guessing given by Darwin’s own arguments AGAINST his own theories.

      *Darwin even stated in his book – in numerous places – that NO geologists of acclaim agreed with him.

      Darwin’s Book: “ORIGIN OF SPECIES”

      https://ia802205.us.archive.org/19/items/originofspecies00darwuoft/originofspecies00darwuoft_bw.pdf
      **(actual book page numbers, not the reader numbers)

      CHAPTER X: Imperfection of the Geological Record

      p. 333
      I endeavoured, also, to show that inter-mediate varieties, from existing in lesser numbers than the forms which they connect, will generally be beaten out and exterminated during the course of further modification and improvement. The main cause, however, of innumerable intermediate links not now occurring everywhere throughout nature depends on the very process of – NATURAL SELECTION – through which new VARIETIES continually take the places of and EXTERMINATE their parent-forms.

      But just in proportion as this process of extermination has acted on an enormous scale, so must the number of intermediate varieties, which have formerly existed on the earth, be truly enormous.

      (cont’d p.334)
      ”Why then is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links?”
      ….

      -Absence of Intermediate Varieties-
      p.346 (whole section)

      ….

      -Sudden Appearance of Whole Groups of Allied Species-

      p.363
      The several difficulties here discussed, namely our not finding in the successive formations infinitely numerous transitional links between the many species which now exist or have existed; the sudden manner in which whole groups of species appear in our European formations; the almost entire absence, as at present known, of fossiliferous formations beneath the Silurian strata, are all undoubtedly of the gravest nature.

      We see this in the plainest manner by the fact that all the most eminent palaeontologists, namely Cuvier, Owen, Agassiz, Barrande, Falconer, E. Forbes, &c., and all our greatest geologists, as Lyell, Murchison, Sedgwick, &c., have unanimously, often vehemently, maintained the immutability of species.

      ….

      CHAPTER XI: On The Geological Succession Of Organic Beings

      On the Forms of Life Changing Almost Simultaneously Throughout the World

      p.373 (whole section)

      ….

      -Summary of Preceding and Present Chapters-

      p.392
      He who rejects these views on the nature of the geological record, will RIGHTLY REJECT my whole THEORY.

      He may ask where are the remains of those infinitely numerous organisms which must have existed long before the first bed of the Silurian system was deposited:

      I can answer this latter question only – HYPOTHETICALLY, – by saying that as far as we can see, where our oceans now extend they have for an enormous period extended, and where our oscillating continents now stand they have stood ever since the Silurian epoch; but that long before that period, the world – MAY – have presented a wholly different aspect; and that the older continents, formed of formations older than any known to us, – MAY NOW – all be in a metamorphosed condition, or – MAY – lie buried under the ocean.

      Passing from these difficulties, all the other great leading facts in palaeontology seem to me simply to follow on the theory of descent with MODIFICATION through – NATURAL SELECTION.

      I DON’T BELIEVE DARWIN ‘The Guesser’..!! 🙂

    2. Addendum to final, final, final post.

      There are those who state that Darwin was a massive liar and a manipulator…

      Darwin’s Duplicity and Opportunism

      During the five years on the Beagle Darwin was a close companion of Captain Robert FitzRoy. FitzRoy was an opinionated conservative Anglican. It is interesting indeed that on the long voyage young Charles maintained a reputation for being a biblical literalist. Yet as we have seen, after only five months or less off the ship Darwin had written down some of his basic ideas on evolution and his repudiation of the God of the Bible.

      There are those who hold that Darwin never had a “crisis of faith” because he was never really brought up to be a believer…

      Charles’ grandfather, Erasmus, a successful and wealthy physician in the 18th century, wrote the book, Zoonomia (Laws of Life), which portrays a pantheistic world in which all life and species evolved. Erasmus’ close friend, industrialist Josiah Wedgwood I, embraced Unitarian theology. Erasmus’ son and Charles’ father, Robert Darwin, also a wealthy physician, probably an atheist, married Susannah Wedgwood. Other marriage ties between the two families followed. Not surprisingly, Darwin males generally were freethinkers, following the Unitarian, pantheistic and atheistic views of their principal sires.

      http://www.parentcompany.com/csrc/cdagenda.htm

      The main tenet of Darwin’s belief has never been proven. In fact there are many mainstream (not fringe) scientists who remain skeptical (i.e. they have remained scientists!) and there are new theories involving epigenetics that look at how our genes react to environmental changes, i.e. natural election 😛

      Darwin smells like a project to me. Just like Marxism. In both cases, genuine causes — respectively, the search for scientific truth and the struggle against oligarchs — were hijacked and used to undermine society. One final note: Marx is hailed as one of the founders of Sociology and ever since finding out that fact, I’ve always maintained that that discipline is the study of how to undermine society.

      Darwin and you know who?
      https://www.henrymakow.com/2013/05/charles-darwin-stock-picker.html

      I suspect Darwin’s version of evolution was to foment the usual revolution.

      1. Nice to hear from you, Flopot.
        P.S. You always present an interesting perspective.
        P.P.S. I look forward to reading Addendum II to your final, final, final post. 🙂

      2. @ Flopot
        My mistake. Rather, I look forward to reading either Addendum I to your final, final, final, final post or your let me be absolutely clear, make no mistake about it, cross my fingers and hope to die post – whichever the case may be. 🙂

      3. Flopot,

        If you leave, you will break my heart!

        Since you have so much to contribute, you are under a moral obligation to continue posting here.

      4. “An important example which proves the fact that Darwinism is one of the biggest deceptions of atheistic freemasonry is a resolution carried in a mason meeting. The 33rd degree Supreme Council of Mizraim Freemasonry at Paris, reveals in its minutes its promotion of evolution as science, while they themselves scoffed at the theory. The minutes read as follows: ‘It is with this object in view [the scientific theory of evolution] that we are constantly by means of our press, arousing a blind confidence in these theories. The intellectuals will puff themselves up with their knowledge and without any logical verification of them will put into effect all the information available from science, which our agented specialists have cunningly pieced together for the purpose of educating their minds in the direction we want. Do not suppose for a moment that these statements are empty words: think carefully of the successes we arranged for Darwinism.’

        http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/10/evolution-intelligent-design.html

  24. JOHN 1:1 [ 70 A.D.]
    IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD;
    AND WORD WAS WITH THE WORD;
    AND THE WORD WAS GOD

    Hindu Vedas [ written at least 3000 B.C.]
    PRAJAPATHI VAI AGRE ASSET;—–
    [In the beginning was Prajapathi-the Brahman-the GOD]
    TASYA VAI DVITIYA ASEET——
    [ with whom was the word]
    VAG VAI PARAMA BRAHMAN—–
    [and the word was verily the supreme Brahman-the God]

    Do the math.

    1. @ hp

      JOHN 1:1 [ 70 A.D.]

      IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD;
      AND WORD WAS WITH THE WORD;
      AND THE WORD WAS GOD

      Shouldn’t that be:

      “IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD;
      AND WORD WAS WITH GOD;
      AND THE WORD WAS GOD.”

      FURTHER QUESTIONS:

      1. Is the word ‘OM’ the ultimate word in the Vedic system, equivalent to the ‘Logos’ of the Greek New Testament?

      2. Are ‘OM’ and ‘BRAHMAN’ identical concepts in Hinduism just as ‘the WORD’ and ‘GOD’ are identical concepts in mystical Christianity?

  25. LD, since I am not intelligent enough or learned enough to answer appropriately, here is someone who is.
    I can concoct stuff and imagine things just like everyone else, but in reality that’s simply an insult to you and your sincere questions.

    “Prabhupada: Om, veda, pranavah sarva-vedesu. Krsna says that raso ‘ham apsu kaunteya prabhasmi sasi-suryayoh pranavah sarva-vedesu [Bg. 7.8]. Pranava is omkara. Sarva-vedesu, “That pranava I am.” That is sound representation of Krsna.
    Doctor: Then that one word as a mantra, is it not…
    Prabhupada: Yes.
    Doctor: …the highest sort of word?
    Prabhupada: No. If you keep Krsna, that “This pranava is the sound representation of Krsna,” then it is all right. If you think it is separately powerful than Krsna, that is nama-aparadha.
    Doctor: I understand.”

    Prabhupada: Yes, Upanisad is giving lesson, counter part of this material world. Because… Just like you are stressing on omkara because you do not give much importance to Krsna. In the material world, Krsna, they think Krsna is one of the historical persons. Avajananti mam mudha manusim tanum asritam [Bg. 9.11]. So Upanisad is teaching us in an indirect way about the importance of Krsna. Upa-nisat. To bring you nearby. Because you have got so many material conceptions, if we say that “Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead,” you may not like it. Therefore… Omkara is Krsna.

    1. LD, such a thing also beautifully reflected by the English brahmana William Blake,
      his individuality in realization shmmering at the very last moment of his “Augeries of Innocence”
      Simply wonderful!

      God Appears & God is Light
      To those poor Souls who dwell in Night
      But does a Human Form Display
      To those who Dwell in Realms of day

      1. And if he was still around here (he is), I’d bet my last euro Mr. French wouldn’t even mention my errant grammatical ways. Gentleman that he is.
        Let me count them, lol..

      2. Pat, yes. Pretty sure that’s the name he gave when first addressed me.
        I remember saying … ‘fingers crossed you’ve read Huck Finn’ because being the (lol) amazing prophet that I am, I could easily foresee my future errors aplenty.
        Laziness, basically.

  26. The man said, “the woman who you gave to be with me, she gave me fruit of the tree & I ate,”

    (because Adam was a spineless halfwit of a man)

    Then the Lord god said to the woman, “What is this that you have done ?” the woman said, “the serpent deceived me & I ate,” ……………………….”To the woman he said, “I will surely multiply your pain in child bearing, in pain you shall bring forth children ………. and thus God continued to curse Eve.

    It’s a nice story & it served it’s purpose in The Organised Religion Industry ….. hip, hip, hooray !
    But I think that mankind is moving away from fairy stories & towards reality – at last.

  27. @REHMAT
    The Initial several Hundreds of Years after the Muslim Occupation of Spain was by the Jews considered the GOLDEN PERIOD of JUDAISM in Europe…. please see attached Historical Short course from Jewishhistory.org … .http://www.jewishhistory.org/maimonides/ …. and is NOT just some claim by a circumstantial recent historian
    This was due to the FACT that the Muslim ( Almoravid ) Victory was achieved with JEWISH HELP ..and would probably have FAILED without this crucial support .as the invading muslim army was quite SMALL
    After that hundreds of years commenced where Jews enjoyed enourmous PRIVILEGES in the Moorish realm.
    Their most lucrative means of income was Tax Farming , Slave trading and ofc Usury.. Spices , Gold and Precious stones were also favoured trading objects … but TAX FARMING and SLAVE TRADING was the stable profitable Rock of Jewish Wealth .. the latter providing the Moorish Harems with Young European Flesh …
    The JEWS prospered and flourished .to such a degree that Cordoba ( Spain ) became the Authoritative Religious Center of Judaism and Maimonides composed the Mishna Torah ( the encyclopedia of Jewish law and tradition ) there.
    The situation for the Jews in Spain changed when the fundamentalist Almohads took control ( 1147 ) and the rich Jews owning major parts of all wealth in Muslim Spain were forced to flee … I would be surprised if the Jews were not once again betrayed by their GREED …as the primary reason for this EXPULSION

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