PARALLEL UNIVERSES: Quantum Physics says you have always existed and always will exist

Sean Martin — Daily Express July 14, 2017

“There are an infinite number of universes,
and everything that could possibly happen occurs in some universe.”
Dr Robert Lanza

Scientists are still baffled by consciousness and questions about why we have it and how we have it constantly arising remain unanswered.

One theory is that consciousness is created on a quantum, sub-atomic scale through energy which is constantly contained in the universe.

The theory is based on Einstein’s famous quote, when he said: “Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.”

Dr David Hamilton said all consciousness is and always has been in the universe through quantum particles, and when you are born, it is channelled into a physical being.

Writing for website Heal Your Life, Dr Hamilton said:

“I believe that each of us exists before we are born on earth. Each of us is pure consciousness, currently focused in a physical dimension.

Science would typically say that life is random, ultimately stemming from the random birth of subatomic particles, but I don’t quite agree with that. Mainstream science says that consciousness must be a side-effect of brain chemistry. But I believe that the brain merely affects consciousness, much in the same way that the quality of wiring in a TV affects the signal processing and thus the quality of picture you get.

The TV does not create the program, and nor does the brain create consciousness. Consciousness is something fundamental to nature – it is stitched into the very fabric of reality.

Consciousness transcends time and space. If you start with the assumption that you exist as pure consciousness, then you must have existed before you were born.

Really, you are everywhere and everywhere!”

Dr Robert Lanza shares a similar theory.

He believes our minds exist through energy which is contained in our bodies and is released once our physical beings cease in a process he calls ‘biocentrism’. As such, when our physical bodies die, the energy of our consciousness could continue on a quantum level.

Dr Lanza says that “there are an infinite number of universes, and everything that could possibly happen occurs in some universe”.

As a result, he theorises that consciousness
continues to exist in a parallel universe.

 

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74 thoughts on “PARALLEL UNIVERSES: Quantum Physics says you have always existed and always will exist

  1. So that’s how it works. There must be a parallel universe of those “Without Conscious” (title of Dr. Robert Hare’s book) that can somehow escape their “hell” and then inhabit the physical body of a new born in this “universe” of present reality so that they can raise hell among us who come from a parallel universe for those with a conscious. You know gang, it’s all very confusing.

    1. I have read a long time ago that past, present and future all exist now at the same time. All going on at once at the very same moment. So i was thinking that if this is true then it means that when we “reincarnate” we can come into any time period we want whether past or future. Imagine being able to come back to the past. I would like to go to Elizabethan England. Or we can go to the future. Not me though. It’s exciting to think this. I do believe that other universes exist at the same time and perhaps there is another us there. Like i am all alone now and only had one child. Maybe in another universe i had four children or maybe i was an actor in another universe as i wanted to be one here, but never was able to. Fascinating!

  2. Anyone who has reached samadhi , which I have twice acccidentally, once while simply walking through a field at dusk, again riding in a Tokyo taxi, relates the exact same experience, and “experience” doesn’t do justice to the revelation that Dr. David Hamilton is right. They were such overwhelming and joyous, well… raptures… that wanting it again I went off to a one week yoga camp and then a weekend meditation seminar. I even incorporated yoga exercises and meditation into my daily life, but aside from keeping fit and relaxed, nothing more, still, even once is a divine gift.

    1. @ Karen
      I am intrigued by your post. Can you describe the two experiences you had, which you refer to as “samadhi”? I am not familiar with the term or its meaning, but the older I get the more I wish to know of such things – provided it is something you are comfortable sharing with me (and the rest of the world). 🙂 Thank you in advance.

      1. Karen never experienced “samadhi”. She wouldn’t know samadhi if it hit her in the face! 🙂

        People who achieve samadhi are extremely rare and holy individuals, usually sages, and once they achieve that state they never really lose it. Thus they can slip back into that state of higher consciousness at will during meditation.

        Apart from this, people who achieve this rare and blessed state are most unlikely to boast about it on antisemitic websites! 🙂

      2. I hate to have to agree with Seymour Zak but he is right. Samadhi is often compared to nirvana, the ultimate blissed-out state of supreme consciousness in which union with God is achieved. It’s probably the same as the unio mystica or mystical union of Christianity.

        https://yogainternational.com/article/view/samadhi-vs.-nirvana-whats-the-difference

        Given that it took Gautama Buddha several years of intense meditation and a life of sexual continence and extreme asceticism to achieve this “blessed state”, the idea that a Canadian commenter on various anti-Semitic websites should achieve “samadhi” on two separate occasions is beyond ridiculous! 🙂

        I suggest that Karen is either pulling our legs or else she doesn’t really know what “samadhi” means, confusing it with a state of euphoria or general ecstasy.

      3. This is not to belittle Karen’s experience, which may well be genuine, because an illuminated feeling of being “one with God” is more common than most people suppose. Statistically it is very rare, maybe not even one in a thousand, but one in a thousand adds up to millions of people over the centuries.

        I have never experienced this state myself, but my wife has. And it changed her entire life. It came on quite suddenly, without the use of mind-blowing drugs or any preliminary fasting or meditation, and the thing that set it apart was the preternatural LIGHT that accompanied the initial experience. The entire world seemed bathed in a preternatural light, every leaf pulsating and dazzling with diamonds. The eyes of little children seemed like precious gems, and the faces of the people all around appeared to glow with an inner light.

        Believe me, I lived with this. So I’m not lying. No reason to lie. The euphoria my wife experienced was one of radiant joy and acceptance, accompanied by a generalized love for mankind and an unshakeable belief in God’s goodness.

        This condition lasted about nine months, tailing off toward the end. It has gone now. Though normal consciousness has been resumed, in the same way that normal consciousness returns after a “high”, the effects of that nine month’s of mystical euphoria have been transformative and long-lasting. My wife is no longer the person she was. The experience has left its mark on her for ever.

      4. Maybe samadhi isn’t the right term. I’m not a bitter and cynical wise-ass over-compensating know-it-all who knows very little like so many here, so I used the Sanskrit term lightly. It was the instant disappearance of self as in ego and a surge of “energy” throughout my body and the total realization that everything around me was the same energy but taking different forms. My first experience as a teenager was laughter and shouting out “It’s all one!” and looking about me in giddy wonder actually seeing that it was true. One source, and so many manifestations. As for the ugly naysayers (not you) this was before I took LSD.

      5. @ Sardonicus

        Apparently there was no reason for your wife’s experience to last longer than it did. The proper change in her occurred. Good for her.

        Rather than using the word “mystical,” the words “kingdom of God” might be more appropriate since it fits the bill for what Jesus taught. According to Jesus, the kingdom of God is what we are suppose to be preaching, but very few do. I have never heard a sermon on where the kingdom of God is even though Jesus told us where it is (it’s inside us) and I have not talked with anyone that has heard such a sermon. I’m as guilty as most which is why I’m currently working on a paper to expose it’s simplicity.

      6. @ Ungenius

        Rather than using the word “mystical,” the words “kingdom of God” might be more appropriate since it fits the bill for what Jesus taught.

        Maybe you’re right. I’m not really happy with the word “mystical” to describe my wife’s experience. I’m sure there’s a better word. Something more low-key. The best way I can describe it in a way that everyone will understand is to say that my wife “experienced a nine-month high.”

        After nine months, she settled back into normal consciousness and her nine-month euphoria then became a happy memory.

        This is not like taking LSD. That is a very acute high that can last all day, but when you wake up next morning you are back to normal.

      7. @ Sardonicus

        Being exceedingly curious about how God’s spiritual laws get initiated, I would truly like to pick your wife’s memory about what she was thinking, saying, and doing when her vision commenced. Unfortunately, we are separated by the largest ocean, plus if the vision was a good while ago, she might not remember exactly which is no fault, just the way things are. 5 years ago when my best friend raised a fellow from the dead in the middle of a church sermon with qualified medical witnesses, I was the first person he called about it. I immediately asked for all details and wrote them down because I knew that the story always changes with time and, in his memory, it did.

        Based on your short description of her experience, I assume that she is still thankful for what occurred. She is certainly blessed.

        I have no experience with LSD. The only “drug” I have experience with is tobacco which does not appear to change my conscious perspective. I get high just observing the artwork of the creator.

      1. Thinking back both episodes were identical though different circumstances and both lasted not 4 or 5 minutes but 2 or 3 minutes.
        I wasn’t bragging , I was using subjective experience to agree with the premise of the article.
        Seymour Zak, I’ve learned that there is nothing a Jew hates more than a well read woman who is thoroughly on to them, and this site is hardly antisemitic, who do you think you’re fooling?
        Sardonicus, it seems that your wife underwent a psychotic not psychic episode (children with sparkling eyes for 9 months?) If it reaccurs I suggest psychiatric help,

      2. @ Karen

        Sardonicus, it seems that your wife underwent a psychotic not psychic episode (children with sparkling eyes for 9 months?) If it reaccurs (sic) I suggest psychiatric help,

        You need to brush up your spelling, dahling, if you wish to go on pretending you are an intelligent, well-educated lady! 🙂

      3. Whatever you experienced, it certainly wasn’t “samadhi”, because samadhi would have left you a nicer and wiser person than the vain braggart you obviously are. The spiteful comment you made above about Sardonicus’s wife, who appears to have experienced a genuine life-enhancing mystical experience, sets you apart as an insensitive, low-minded boor who has learned nothing from life.

        As far as I can gather from previous comments of yours on this site, you are a Canadian dog breeder who once ran a bookshop and likes to boast how you were once almost raped in a Toronto park.

        Good thing the guy didn’t rape you or he might have ended up with the pox! 🙂

      4. @ Karen
        Thank you for the edification. I am sorry that my simple – yet genuine – question opened you up to ridicule by several commenters. That certainly was not my intention. Peace be with you.

  3. “PARALLEL UNIVERSES” serves a number of Protocol objectives:

    1.It is cultural Marxism and click-bait fodder to the MSM. With this concept, social justice is extended to universes – they must all be equal.
    2.The goy are maximally confused about “life, the universe and everything”.

    For entertaining, valid but challenging reading on physics, go to http://motls.blogspot.com/

    1. @ Flan O’Brien

      You nailed it quite well. No one seems to question (((who))) pays the bills, provides grants, and plenty of exposure for these “advanced thinkers.” Why bother loving and helping your fellowman when we’ve got Quantum everything and parallel universes? There is a deception for everyone that does not know that they in the designed rabbit hole.

      1. @ Flan O’Brien
        @ Ungenius

        I doubt if either of you are trained scientists, or you would think twice before you sneered at a scientific theory just because you personally dislike it and find it “threatening” because of the cognitive dissonance it gives you. 🙂

        Check out this picture below (which comes from the article) and it will tell you that this is more than a vague and woolly speculation. It is a scientific hypothesis that can be TESTED FOR ITS TRUTH by the two criteria of truth that all scientists accept nowadays: “it makes predictions and it can be falsified.”

        https://www.darkmoon.me/uploads/xparallel-universes-3-638.jpg.pagespeed.ic.A6Sto7gQb8.webp

        So whether you like it or not, this is a scientific theory that can actually be tested for its truth by the two criteria of PREDICTIVE POWER and FALSIFIABILITY.

        These are the three major misconceptions that critics of the multiverse theory suffer from:

        (1) This theory is in no way an attack on Free Will; on the contrary, whatever is done in parallel universes is done freely. The multiverse theory must on no account be confused with mechanistic determinism. The multiverse theory vindicates Free Will absolutely and makes Free Will a universal principle.

        (2) Jews have nothing to do with promoting this theory. Most of the people behind the theory are non-Jews, such as the Japanese scientist Michio Kaku.

        (3) Even if a Jew is behind a scientific theory, it doesn’t follow that the theory has been designed to screw the goyim and achieve world domination! Other scientists are not going to accept a scientific theory unless it passes the basic tests of truth. The multiverse theory has nothing to do with “Cultural Marxism”, which is not a scientific theory at all but a rather sinister ideological movement (mostly of Jewish origin) designed to undermine Western society.

        Dr John Porter
        (astrophysics researcher)

      2. Well said, Mr Porter. You speak good sense! I for one would never dream of rejecting a cure for cancer just because a Jew came up with the cure! The cure either works or it doesn’t. That’s all that matters.

        Even if the multiverse theory had Jews behind it, I would accept it if it had been validated by science and became an established truth.

        Given that this theory is in no way incompatible with the exercise of free will, I see no reason to reject the theory out of hand.

      3. The reason this theory is so unpopular with many people is that they have completely misunderstood it. They persist in their misconception that the Parallel Universes theory is a sinister, underhand attack on Free Will. “It makes us all robots,” they protest,” forcing us to do things against our wills!”

        Wrong! It does no such thing. The beauty of the theory is that it actually universalizes free will.

        Whatever is done, even if it is done differently in a trillion different universes, is done freely every time by the individual who does it.

        You may not like what your doppelganger does. But you are not your doppelganger, are you? Nor is your doppelganger you.

        You are two entirely different individuals living in two entirely different universes.

      4. @ john Porter,
        “trained” scientists are not the anointed guardians of truth.
        Universe, by definition is everything there is, there cannot exist anything outside that is experimentally verifiable because even if there were another universe-2, the two universes would not be able to exchange information – if they could, they would merge into a single universe by that simple fact.

        Or will the next bright theory tell us about partial universes? lol.

        the theorist (I believe British) only postulated the existence of an infinitude of universes created at every event as a way of eliminating the problem of quantum randomness, whereby an elementary particle’s total information is determined at the moment of conscious observation, thereby linking consciousness to the base layer of reality – a moment of creation as it were, the physical inextricably linked and its very existence dependent on consciousness – it sure puts a heavy burden of responsibility on our cheerful organ harvesters, don’t it.
        By saying that every possible combination of every single junction has in fact happened, thereby covering the entire infinite range of the distribution, each birthing another universe, the notion of free will, which crucially depends on the randomness, is obviated, i.e., everything is determined by the fact that every possibility is covered and a man has no choice, he is just a ball bearing bouncing inside pinball machine, his every action physically predetrmined and unavoidable.
        Thus, goodbye personal responsibility – what’s not to like for a Jew?

        This is the crux, JP, why Jews from Feynman onwards were so enamoured of the multiverse.
        Now, maybe the theory is true, i don’t claim to know because i cannot disprove it any more than you can prove it – viz, demonstrate something which by its definition cannot be demonstrated, a reality beyond our Universe-1 reality.
        IMO, a cheap substitute for the divine, the karma, the morality, man’s free choice and thus responsibility.

        Jew has dug his hole and now wants to convince us that it is not a hole because it was backfilled by the mythical Good Jew in another universe.

        i will make this prediction, Mr porter:
        science usurped religion, assuming the all-knowing mantle of the religion itself, jew theorist, well versed in the arts of legalese, symbol manipulation and chopping words after conveniently having deformed the language to suit his nefarious ends, is once again the high priest chanting inanities at the open mouthed masses – BUT,
        the Divine will yet play a joke on the science and it will end up with its foot in its mouth – Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem might provide a timely warning to the hubristic mindset of the theoretical Icarus winging to the universe next door.
        No matter how the cockroach dodges and weaves, it will not avoid the hammer of karma.

        But even assuming you are right, Mr Porter, i got the following question for all of the theo-atheists:
        given the UNCOUNTABLE (you know what the term means) infinitude of universes, surely there is at least one (no, an infinity) of universes ruled by a just God – which, in order to inject individual responsibility, requires randomness – where is our Jew going to hide in such a universe?

      5. @ Sardonicus

        I commend you for your common sense and intellectual acumen. I hadn’t expected anyone on this site to come to my defense and so I was really surprised when you did.

        Take this constant Einstein bashing you get on anti-Semitic sites like this. It’s most demeaning. Don’t these people realize what fools they make of themselves by trying to discredit Einstein for allegedly “plagiarizing” his ideas and also for being rather nasty to his wife?

        Einstein’s Theory of Relativity is either true or false. If it’s true, and the theory has been vindicated more than once by the accurate predictions it has made, then how can the theory be discredited by pointing out that Einstein wasn’t very nice to his wife and gave her a tough time?

        To be a good scientist, do you need to be nice to your wife? Silly question.

        Even if it is proved beyond all doubt that Einstein plagiarized his ideas, how can that disprove his theory? The ideas he allegedly stole, after all, could be correct. He is hardly likely to steal false ideas, is he? Not unless he’s stupid!

        Which obviously he isn’t.

        As for Einstein “plagiarizing” his idea, this is total nonsense if by this you mean making use of the great ideas of his predecessors. All scientists do his. Is Isaac Newton a “plagiarist” because he made full use of the ideas of Copernicus and Galileo?

        It was Newton who said: “If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.”

      6. uh-huh,some alarm bell going off, let’s see … will there be a scientific defense of NIST 9/11 report?

        i think that it came from another universe where such things routinely happen.

      7. Those of us in the Holograph We call Spamblinka Universe see things alot different than everyone else. We don’t see ourselves as “thought criminals” or any kind of “criminals”. We actually see ourselves as being INNOCENT. We see ourselves as just having shared FACT-BASED TRUTHFUL info and got labeled “joo” and got labeled “troll” and got labeled “trouble-maker” for sharing TRUTHFUL information. We think WE have been UNFAIRLY shipped off to this prison universe holograph called “Spamblinka” and We see ourselves as being INNOCENT, ain’t that a Hoot.

      8. @ Lobro

        By saying that every possible combination of every single junction has in fact happened, thereby covering the entire infinite range of the distribution, each birthing another universe, the notion of free will, which crucially depends on the randomness, is obviated, i.e., everything is determined by the fact that every possibility is covered and a man has no choice, he is just a ball bearing bouncing inside pinball machine, his every action physically predetrmined and unavoidable.

        Thus, goodbye personal responsibility – what’s not to like for a Jew?

        Well, I am not going to get into any fruitless discussions with you for several reasons, the chief being that you are under the false impression that the multiverse theory destroys free will when it does the very opposite.

        Sardonicus has expressed this very succinctly and neatly, though of course you are at liberty to prove him wrong if you wish. This is what he says, and it satisfies all my rational criteria as a professional astrophysicist of 30 years in academia. And no, I am not a “Jew” pushing “Jewish ideas”, since I have already taken a swipe at Cultural Marxism by pointing out this is a sinister Jewish movement that I totally reject.

        Here is Sardonicus and he speaks for me:

        I for one would never dream of rejecting a cure for cancer just because a Jew came up with the cure! The cure either works or it doesn’t. That’s all that matters.

        Even if the multiverse theory had Jews behind it, I would accept it if it had been validated by science and became an established truth.

        Given that this theory is in no way incompatible with the exercise of free will, I see no reason to reject the theory out of hand.

        He goes on to expand on this at some length, and I can see no flaw in his logic:

        The reason this [multiverse] theory is so unpopular with many people is that they have completely misunderstood it. They persist in their misconception that the Parallel Universes theory is a sinister, underhand attack on Free Will. “It makes us all robots,” they protest,” forcing us to do things against our wills!”

        Wrong! It does no such thing. The beauty of the theory is that it actually universalizes free will.

        Whatever is done, even if it is done differently in a trillion different universes, is done freely every time by the individual who does it.

        You may not like what your doppelganger does. But you are not your doppelganger, are you? Nor is your doppelganger you.

        You are two entirely different individuals living in two entirely different universes.

        That is beautifully put and it expresses my viewpoint exactly:

        This is your mistake, Lobro. You are laboring under the delusion that all those different lobros in different universes are different versions of yourself, forced to do things that you yourself would never do, thus negating free will in all possible worlds. You fail to understand that all those multifarious apparent versions of yourself are NOT carbon copies of you transplanted into different universes but simply “seemalikes” in a seemalike universe.

        Just as you are acting with free will in our particular universe, this universe we share, your seemalikes are also acting with free will in their respective universes. Understand?

        This may seem like a science fiction idea to you, but Feynman, though Jewish, didn’t win the Nobel Prize for Physics because he was a Jew trying to undermine the goyim’s preconceived ideas! He won the Nobel prize because he was a genius whose mathematical equations worked. Those equations were both elegant and beautiful, as all good equations are.

        It was Feynman who postulated the theory of an alternative universe in which time runs backwards, a possibility that many scientists (not all Jews!) have taken in their stride. Since our particular universe is one in which time only runs forward, it follows that this Feynmanian universe in which time runs backwards would have to be an entirely separate universe.

        We can’t have time running forwards AND backwards in the same universe, can we? In the same way, you understand, we can’t have a clock which runs forwards and backwards simultaneously!

        It follows from all this that there are an infinite number of possible universes, not just one universe as you like to believe, simply because it makes you feel a bit better.

        The universe was not made to please Lobro. It was made to please God! 🙂

      9. @ j. porter … um, not so fast, i am not swayed by either academic peerage nor the mass of assent and stand on my right to ask rational questions.

        Whatever is done, even if it is done differently in a trillion different universes, is done freely every time by the individual who does it.

        If so, does it mean that there are trillion different sets of morality laws so that ALL of these offshoots of what at one juncture were the SAME person end up being moral, yet act in wildly different and in fact OPPOSITE ways?
        Or if we assume a singular universality of the moral code, then in whatever the universe, the way of justice and righteousness inevitably leads to the identical judgment.
        Let’s keep our eyes on the ball, shall we.

        As for feynman’s postulate of the time running backwards, yes, but it only covers infinitesimally tiny periods, the Planck-scale chunks of trillionth-of-a-trillionth-of-a-trillionth of second, as you should well know and it has to do with statistics, damn lies and statistics, whereby some gnarly subatomic entity (a photon?) borrows energy from the future instant in order to perform its statistically mandated magic and reappear on the other side of the barrier, giving up its ghost and repaying the energy loan … something like that (did he call it “many-paths-over-one”, can’t remember), it’s been a long time and i am no physicist so i only talk in fuzzy terms.
        But the time running backwards on a macroscopic scale, a broken glass gathering itself, soaking up the spilled wine stain and jumping back onto the tabletop, we got a very serious violation of the law of entropy, don’t we … an evil man retreating down the memory lane into childlike innocence, how nice, judgment coming unglued, a child’s life unsnuffed, revirginated … a cosmic UNDO button … “I once, could see, but now am blind, amazing grace”.

        Not to mention an extra 6 million jews – rejoice! halelujah! akbar Yahweh!
        (but no repayment of shoah tax in any of the trillion universes, the Chosen are always Chosen, YHWH wouldn’t tolerate anything but the Noahide universe)

      10. Even if the multiverse theory meant that we had no free will and were just robots acting mechanically, as Lobro mistakenly believes, I don’t see why lack of free will should invalidate the theory.

        Many scientists and philosophers are determinists. They don’t believe in Free Will. They believe in randomness and chance. Who is to say they are wrong?

        As it happens, the multiverse theory is perfectly compatible with free will, as both Dr Porter and Sardonicus have argued above.
        In other words, you don’t have to give up free will to believe in the multiverse theory.

        The fact that Lobro lacks the intellectual ability to see this is regrettable, but then what is one to think of a man who finds himself in a minority of one over Donald Trump and who actually thinks that anyone who dares to criticize Trump is a fool?

      11. Lobro NEVER said nor did he ever imply that anyone who criticizes Trump is a “fool”, Mr. Scott MacDonald. And Lobro isn’t a “minority of one over Trump”. I for one appreciate Lobro’s analysis of Trump. Lobro provides much needed balance in discussions about Trump and I, too, stand behind Trump and support Trump. So I guess Lobro is a minority of two over Trump, Mr. Scott MacDonald. And who are you, Mr. Scott MacDonald? You just showed up here at Darkmoon and already you’re expert on Darkmoon commentators who’ve been contributing to Darkmoon discussions for years? Are you Pat’s cousin? You sound like you could be a cousin.

      12. @ Admin

        Thank you for publishing this offbeat article. I really enjoyed reading it and the stimulating discussion it provoked. Incidentally, I originally read the article on Truthseeker, a good anti-Zionist site, and I guess that’s where Lasha Darkmoon originally found it.

        http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=155037

      13. As a take-away from this discussion… I still see…

        Everybody has their own truth in this universe. 🙂

      14. @ John Porter
        @ Sardonicus

        Rather than getting technical, I’ll keep it simple.

        No, I’m not a trained academic scientist. I have always had to be productive with what is.

        The parallel universe theory is just that, a theory. When a theory is provable it becomes a fact, until then, as Pat likes to say, it is just a guess.

        The parallel universe theory/guess is not a cure for cancer. It is only a cure for homelessness for those that get paid, here it comes Pat, to guess.

        I am a firm believer in free will whether I believe in the parallel universe theory/guess or not. I have real experience with free will as everyone on this planet should have. Those that don’t have an appreciation for free will are those that claim their life is everyone else’s fault.

        Name just one benefit for mankind in accepting the parallel universe theory/guess. Does acceptance create more food? Does acceptance create more water? Does acceptance create better shelter? Does acceptance cause a person to get along better with their fellowman? Does acceptance allow an individual to control the elements with just their voice as I do? Does acceptance allow a person to heal his fellowman of afflictions with just their voice? Does acceptance improve the ability of a person to attain salvation for their soul? Does acceptance mean that the jews will go away? I could go on, but I won’t.

        We have enough jewish deceptions to deal with. Why would we need to add to the distractions since we were only given the keys to one universe?

        As for Einstein, I’m on Tesla’s side. Einstein is full of crap.

      15. @ scott macdonald,
        what curious creatures come out of the woodwork for a one time hatchet job; does the venom sac detach with the stinger or is it reusable?

        at no point did i express contempt for john porter, only dealt with message, never with messenger as is my wont, your case excepted since character assassination is the totality of your message.

        i simply wanted to point 2 facts out, one based on this statement, eminently mistaken

        Even if the multiverse theory had Jews behind it, I would accept it if it had been validated by science and became an established truth.

        the multiverse is NOT an experimentally established fact and never will be.
        PERIOD.
        it is nothing but a postulate, a vehicle of convenience to deal with the issue of chance, abhorrent to the large segment of atheists in the scientific, especially theoretic physicist community.
        It can be neither proven nor disproven – to drive this point home, it cannot be proven nor disproven if every sentient being in this universe became a genius physicist and they all applied their collective mind throughout the age of the universe to trying to establish the truthful answer to this question.

        maybe your centipede mind has a problem with this truth, mr macdonald so i will resort to simple english:
        “Universe” means “Everything”.
        so how can there be “Something Outside Everything”?
        if there are two or more Everythings, then they can never – by definition, Mr Macdonald – be in contact because in that case one Everything absorbs the other Everything, ie, they merge into a new Everything.
        Thus, multiverse is doomed to forever remaining a theory, without a theoretic chance of experimental validation.
        There could be (also theoretically yet with possibility of verification – a YUGE difference) chunks of universe, yes, this present universe, with strange worlds where what we consider immutable cosmic constants are not so immutable, elementary particles different from ours – considered highly unlikely by these same theoreticians, yet the probability is greater than zero.

        But the multiverse loving atheists (almost all Jew scientists are in that contingent, in fact Einstein was an exception but being a Jew, whose god is a weirdly determinist god, he had a major problem with quantum weirdness) are in position where their pet theory can never, never, never be proven yet in the safety of knowledge that it can never, never, never be disproven either.

        Unlike God.
        he can at any time choose to reveal himself and put the debate of his existence to end.
        this is the crux of jew’s dilemma, he who hedges on every bet, who runs the bookmaking operation is stuck with backing a wager with zero chance against one where the odds are greater than zero, however slightly – a very unusual position for him, the habitual winner of the 3-card monty games of crooked chance.

        Btw, mr macdonald: observe that i did not interject here in order to be a pest to the site but because Dr Porter’s argument threatened to cow Ungenius and Flan O’Brien into silence, whether his intervention had that goal in mind or not, a case of intellectual bullying, however unintended it may have been.

        as for atheism, the atheists are welcome to feast on it 3 times daily, no skin off my nose.
        The fact that it is a flypaper from which, once stuck, it is quite difficult to extricate oneself, as per another famous academic, a Doctor Faustus, is also none of my business.

        yes, Dr Porter, i enjoyed it too.

      16. Ung –

        I am glad you wrote the fact about a theory being a guess. I did not want to toss it into the mix. I started to do that, as you know I am want do, but I was already flippant enough for the thread with my input. 🙂

        Many very smart people have called me out for telling them a theory is a guess. That lets me know they did not take good notes or were absent the day that the SCIENTIFIC METHOD was discussed in physics and chemistry and physical sciences classes. You paid attention.

        Einstein just rewrote F=ma where he substituted a(acceleration) with c times c, where c is a constant, the speed of light….. which is the reason for using c. A small ‘k’ is the norm for denoting a constant…. so that Newton’s second law is written as F = kma to allow transforming among different measuring units.

        I agree with Tesla’s guesses about Einstein, also. 🙂

      17. @ Ungenius

        I’m not trying to get you to change your mind. By all means continue in your present beliefs if they give you comfort. My comments are addressed to others on this site who might wish to benefit from a larger and more scientific perspective.

        These are the points I wish to make:

        [1] The Many Worlds theory may be a “theory” right now, but like all theories it can be tested for its truth by science. If it fails these tests, then it is a discarded theory. Until then, only the intolerant and stupid will dismiss it out out of hand.

        [2] The Many Worlds theory is perfectly compatible with Free Will. If it were NOT compatible with Free Will, I would myself be more inclined to reject it. As things stand, I neither accept it fully OR reject it. I’m just defending the right of people on this forum to discuss the theory in a civilized manner — without being shouted down by unruly anti-Semites with a smattering of scientific knowledge.

        (I am not referring to you personally, so relax). 🙂

        [3] I totally reject the cheap, undignified, below-the-belt argument that the Many Worlds theory should rejected because it has something “Jewish” about it. That is not science. It is psychopathology. This is a way of winning arguments by appealing to basest of all human instincts: “Ah, Jews are behind this theory, so it has to be wrong!”

        (Pathetic. Lower than this you simply cannot go.)

        I repeat: the people behind the multiverse theory are mostly non-Jews, especially the Japanese physicist Michio Kaku. (But facts like these never stood in the way of a diehard anti-Semite).

        [4] By all means sneer at Einstein if it makes you feel superior. What are your own contributions to scientific knowledge, may I ask? Do you have higher degrees in Physics or Quantum mechanics? If not, maybe it would be wiser to take refuge in the Christian virtue of humility, don’t you think? 🙂

        [5] I find it easy to accept Einstein AND Tesla. You appear to think that acceptance of the one implies rejection of the other. You are wrong. Sugar and salt, though they might appear to be opposites, often occur in the same dish.

        [6] Finally, let me thank you for this discussion. You have been one of the few “civilized” ones on this site with whom discussion has been possible. Your only problem (from my point of view) is your reluctance to entertain a scientific theory that you regard as a serious threat to your Christian beliefs and your belief in Free Will.

        Let me assure you that I myself am totally sympathetic to Christianity and was brought up a Christian — a religion that is based on the assumption that we are all morally responsible individuals endowed with Free Will. So if a person like me has no difficulty in reconciling Christianiity and Free Will with the Many Worlds hypothesis, why are you and Lobro having such problems?

        I suggest you are creating imaginary problems — a frequent phenomenon found in older people with set views and suffering from cognitive dissonance.

      18. @ Lobro

        what curious creatures come out of the woodwork for a one time hatchet job; does the venom sac detach with the stinger or is it reusable?

        You certainly are an irate little man with an anger management problem, as your above comment illustrates. If there’s any “venom sac” here, it surely belongs to you. You see, I had no intention of insulting you at all, since you are simply not important enough to me to justify the expenditure of any such venom.

        In fact, I am venom free. What I said was measured, cool, rational. You will find here nothing but a factual statement:

        As it happens, the multiverse theory is perfectly compatible with free will, as both Dr Porter and Sardonicus have argued above. In other words, you don’t have to give up free will to believe in the multiverse theory.

        The fact that Lobro lacks the intellectual ability to see this is regrettable, but then what is one to think of a man who finds himself in a minority of one over Donald Trump and who actually thinks that anyone who dares to criticize Trump is a fool?

        You call that “a venom sac” with a “stinger”? How strange!
        I thought that was an extremely mildly put factual statement.

        Aren’t you in a minority of one over Donald Trump? And haven’t you repeatedly given the unfortunate impression that anyone who disagrees with you on Donald Trump is intellectually deficient in some way? That you alone have some secret knowledge, some special faculty of extrasensory perception into the true nature of Donald Trump that all us lesser mortals are lacking in? Indeed, haven’t you just now — with your usual flair for verbal hooliganism — referred to my “centipede mind”?

        If this is “character assassination” on my part, as you foolishly prattle, then please accept my sincere apologies, Mr Lobro. I will trouble you no more and leave you to your customary role on this website — that of Class Bully.

        I really do feel sorry for you. You need to start up your own website so that you can play King of the Dungheap there. This is no longer the place for your unseemly theatrics.

      19. @ j porter,

        i am disappointed that you completely miss the point i am making.
        it has nothing to do with my beliefs but a lot to do with the universal principles of morality insofar as they are steamrolled by the multiverse theory, in particular the one engendered within the QM, as a hypothesis it does nothing to advance the state of the science as it applies to daily life.

        now please bear with me, don’t insult my age or mental agility without a complete proof of its failure – this is another attempt that i will keep as straightforward as possible.

        the very first thing one learns in introductory QM class is the double slit experiment – remeber that one, j porter?
        what theory immediately ensues from it?
        that the wave like nature of the photon is best represented as a gaussian probability distribution, so that any possible status has a certain point probability associated with it – NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE – until the act of observation, the event called “wave packet collapse”, when this infinitely broad potential wave becomes a singular little particle registering as a hit, like a bullet striking a target.
        This is what gave Einstein fits, the seemingly random nature of the result, such that no matter how carefully the experiment was replicated, the result was not guaranteed, only expressed as a probabilty.

        So, to get around this randomness and back to the safety of determinism, the Everett “Many-worlds” postulate says that “no, every possible state occurs but in a different, unique universe” that branches out from the moment of observation, therefore THERE IS NO RANDOMNESS, it is only apparent to an observer isolated in his own lousy universe that he believes to be unique, where he believes that he has the power of choice, the Free Will.
        Which he in fact does not posses, he is just fitted into his particular pigeon hole, i.e., Free Will is an illusion, every event is predetermined and occurs in some universe identical to ours but for that single event, the divergence increasing preciptously with every quantum moment (and each of the infinitude of observers fools himself into thinking he’s got freedom of choice).
        And that means, guess what: Chosenness, not Choice, because only Yahweh has the choice and he made it at the origin of the world.

        You are not Chosen. I am not Chosen but at least i can register my objection, my free will in a non-Yahweh universe.

        i hope you do get it this time, Dr Porter, it is all based on nothing but logic, the good old common sense, no Jeebus mumbo jumbo that is such an entertainment hit in Israel.

      20. macdonald,
        here we go again.

        i did not invite myself back onto the site, i was challenged by the likes of donaldo colina, ungenius, greg bacon, pat and others not to go off sulking into the night, that it is cowardly and unbecoming, hence i was shamed into returning, i apologize if it upset your digestive processes.

        previously, i did feel that having been the site’s sherpa with the most posts over the longest period, my retirement at least merited a cheap timex, not having your likes gobbing at me on my way out the door.

        believe you me, i get no pleasure anymore out of posting, i get all uptight at the thought.
        and i do try to limit it to as few topics, carefully ON-TOPIC, as possible.
        Like i said, it did look like ungenius and o’brien’s views were dissed so i thought to try and clarify a couple of matters as it relates to the clear preference of judaists for the multiverse.

        i don’t need you to tell me how intellectually challenged i am, it might be a mild remark to you – as long as you are pitching and i am catching.
        I tend to think it was uncalled for.

        and the less you provoke me, the less i will post, a win-win for both of us, so please, let’s desist.

        As for trump, yes, your views are in an overwhelming majority.
        In your world, majority equates to truth, so be it, in fact, feel free to recruit the infinite universes to affirm that truth.

      21. @ Lobro

        what curious creatures come out of the woodwork for a one time hatchet job…

        Just to let you know that I’ve posted about 20 comments on this site but I’ve been a “silent reader” for about three years, so I’m aware of all the background gossip and undercurrents that have been going on here for a long time.

        I don’t wish to drive you away because I think your posts on the whole are pretty good and do you a lot of credit. So what I intend to do is to fade away once again into the background and resume my status as a silent reader.

        Your last post showed great restraint. It shows you are sincere and have many admirable qualities. Console yourself with the undeniable fact that you have more people on this site who like and respect you than the other way round.

        Take care, Lobro. And if I return again in the future, it may very well be to spring to your defense rather than attack you.

        Cheers! 🙂

      22. I want to leave you with a parting gift, as a sign of my goodwill.

        Someone sent me this 59-minute video a few hours ago and it seemed to me that here was a video that you might like to see.
        I haven’t had time to view it all yet, just the first 10 minutes or so, but this appears to present Donald Trump in a favorable light and explain what he is trying to do. In short, it seems to be a vindication of Trump.

        Anyway, check it out and see what you think.

        As I say, I haven’t had time to watch this to the end, but maybe the Trump haters will be able to see Trump in a new light if they watch this video.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmhfRi5j8aA&t=320s

      23. @ scott macdonald,

        PAX, i am all for it, taking pleasure in conflict and bitching is very much against my nature.

        thanks also for the trump video, as the sign of goodwill that you called it.
        i feel that Trump is a potential lifesaver flotation device thrown to the fast sinking USS Liberty, aka America and as such should not be spurned, absent anything else.
        i may yet prove to be wrong, ie, outside my parameters of what might constitute an elaborate fencing duel he is having with judea and its servitors, the deep state and assorted betrayers of their people, surely the material fit for the deepest circles of hell.
        But so far, i feel that he has performed very well indeed and the indicators are almost too numerous to list.
        Anyone is free to disagree and i really don’t mind, so long as in any argument they address the points i raise, rather than blithely rolling over them, like i was a deaf mute guppy inside a fishbowl.
        As John porter will tell us, if a theory stumbles on a single confirmed, replicable observation, that theory must be instantly ditched as not possibly true, no matter how well it conforms to other observations and how elegant the math – this is strictly equivalent to what gives rise to my anger and frustration – in search for truth, be it scientific, philosophical or political, there cannot be jumping the shark, this is only good for hollywood and other jewish fabrications.

        Okay, enough.
        notabene: your writing is so spotless that I could have sworn you are in fact also known as Grammar Fiend … not that it matters to me in the very least, just sayin’ 😉
        what would i do with my life if i wasn’t spinning conspiracy theories …

      24. (Off-topic…but not quite)

        TO SISTER MONICA IN A PARALLEL UNIVERSE

        I want to follow in the footsteps of Sister Monica
        I want I should go to India
        and together with Our “Catholic” Mother “SUPERIOR”
        on a Lotus petal
        starting off from Benares
        with a prayer of Gratitude in Our Hearts for Teilhard
        float down the Ganges
        Monica and Me
        ~ Harmony and me.

        We were pretty good company
        Harmony, gee I really LERV you
        and I want to LERV You forever
        and dream of never never never leaving Harmony ~
        and when We reach the Indian Ocean
        We shall lose Ourselves
        in Cosmic Bliss
        In ONENESS with the Great Ocean
        of Collective Consciousness
        and lose Our identities
        and for Eternity be free of Ego issues, *grin*
        ~ Looking for an island
        in our boat upon the sea ~
        We shall find Our Heavenly Haven Rest
        WE’RE THE BEST!

        immersed in Nirvana
        Translucent in The White Light!
        Divine Fulfillment!
        GODHOOD AT LAST!
        Me and My m00n Goddess Mother
        Monica and Me
        ~ You’re NOT unlucky knowing me
        Open up your Heart, [ maybe? ]
        and let your feelings flow,baby ~ *grin*

      25. @ Lobro

        I see nothing wrong with your logic concerning parallel universes.

        Getting very basic, it does not matter if they exist or not because we are stuck in this ONE. What really matters is what are we going to do while we are here?

        I also see nothing wrong with your logic concerning Trump, in which case time will tell for sure. I came across a YouTube video by a pro-Trump lady that explains the Russia-phobia being so passionately pushed. It has to do with PizzaGate/PedoGate.

        “Many Elite Headed to Prison-Liz Crokin” – 48 minutes
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-veJufKDS4

      26. once again i seem to have laid a home run on the comments piñata, welcome or not.
        in order of appearance, thanks TROJ, you are and always were my favorite poet (of “back to the earth” style), pat (i started watching the video but i do get quite antsy with them, feels like back to school where i must sit and listen … the guy in the beginning has funk+wagnalls encyclopedia behind him … hm), ung (same thing, i am like peter sellers in “being there” who switched the channel from watching his own presidential speech to some cartoon).
        like i said or maybe i didn’t, can’t remember … the everett version of multiverse, viz, that
        ***everything that could possibly have ever happened and could happen in future MUST have and will have happened – an infinite number of times***, so that taking the sum total of every particle and subparticle’s availability of states, each state must happen in conjunction with each state of every other such particle in the universe at every Planck-ular junction, knocks the freedom of choice dead, because tho universe is big, it is finite as regards mass, ie, # of particles.
        Imagine if you will, a pool table with just 2 balls and the customary 6 pockets: how many possible ways are there in choosing your shot in order to sink the balls? If you take every one of these shots (after resetting the original config), you will have exhausted all the permutations and that’s your Everett.

        It may be true but i don’t like it … not in this universe, in some other, i am forced to like it, the 2 universes being absolutely identical except for this tiny, insignificant to you, very significant to me, detail.

        Which is not to say that after sending everett back to his academic cubicle, i don’t enjoy the idea of some other cool universe, flying horses and rainbow suns, breathable oceans, great fragrances wafting through the lavender atmosphere, 3-headed mermaids and so forth, i was a great consumer of science fiction before deciding that good science fiction died with jack vance.

        so, though not knowing who wins in the end, i am cheering for vance and god of christ against everett and the god of jews – the OBEY LAW crowd.

        as for sister monica scooting off to the far indies, hm, why did i think it might have been a cruise on the ionian sea … brain playing tricks on me … down boy! sit! i said: sit and stay on-topic.
        certainly nothing beats injun food.

      27. as for sister monica scooting off to the far indies, hm, why did i think it might have been a cruise on the ionian sea … brain playing tricks on me … down boy! sit! i said: sit and stay on-topic.

        Check your Atlas, and you will find
        that the Mediterranean Sea is en route to India.
        Ever heard of a stopover?

  4. Through meditation one can experience what Buddhists describe as the void state, where consciousness is present, but there is no sensory input. This is a stage of awareness where the manifest physical universe is revealed to be infinitely different than what we have been conditioned to accept and rigidly believe. There are fascinating descriptions of certain localities where the fabric of time space thins out considerably, and visits to and from parallel dimensions are reported to have occurred with no intent at all. Eyewitness accounts both historic and contemporary from locales in Russia, Ukraine, Poland, South and North America, Thailand and many other countries are more extensive than most people would find comfortable. I would add that not all these experiences are positive and spiritually uplifting, there are some places that are best avoided. Listen to the what the locals say if you are wise if and when you go looking…

    It is man’s nature to explore and discover. Exploring inner realities through traditional meditation or more modern methods used by US government personnel, among other explorers, The Monroe Institute’s hemi-sync program and RV training are relatively safe routes, but there are no guarantees. The late Apollo Astronaut and the sixth man to walk on the Moon, Edgar Mitchell collected a good deal of reputable scientists views in his book “Psychic Exploration; a Challenge to Science”, highly recommended though published in 1974, with surprising revelations as to what was then only beginning to develop in the scientific community. Shamanic training with indigenous native traditions is incredibly fascinating, there are many accounts that are eye opening to put it mildly.

    Devotion to your Deity is another time proven avenue to access personal experience – centuries of mystical experience speak for themselves… Yoga, as a method mentioned by Karen, is certainly one of the best. At any given moment there are approximately 12 million persons in religious orders in India alone, this figure of course doesn’t include the daily devotions of lay persons. By studying contemporary accounts of westerners who immerse themselves in practice and achieve you begin to get an idea of the majesty of the Universe, and looking at ever advancing spectacular stellar Astronomy, a glimpse of the limitless grandeur of the Universe. It’s even better when you go somewhere away from urban lights and look up at the stars and see it first hand, knowing that many of those lights went out millions of years ago while new born lights have yet to reach us.

    1. Winston –

      I have been thru the Monroe Institute’s RV (remote viewing) program. It is very real, and I have experienced the out-of-body travel to access remote views. The institute grounds are in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia, and accommodate V.I.P.s from all over the world. My impression is that it is a testing facility to recruit talent for black ops – or a place to school high-ranking bureaucrats and executives in mind control. None of this fascination is comfortable, and should be left alone by us sane folks. 🙂
      That being said, the experiences reinforced my belief that reincarnation is a reality, and lends credence to
      “The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which
      shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.”. – Ecclesiastes 1:9

      1. Gilbert – I’m very happy to hear that you looked first hand. One of the American Indians observations is modern people are satisfied to get things like this second hand. There is no substitute for direct experience. The program is available through mail order for those who want to avoid the kinds of persons you mention, though not all are bad, but there is no question many are “ethically challenged’ exactly as you say.

        In my case, I started Hatha Yoga at age 17. I was reasonably healthy but like many I’d get a cold or flu once or twice a winter when it was going around. Then it would often put me out of action. My mother gave me two yoga books when I was out of action and missing school one time, and I was totally amazed to completely cure myself in less than two days. That hooked me, and led to some very strange places, both in and out of the USA.

        I’ve recommended the work of Ingo Swann, a pioneer in this field. In April, 1973 while participating in Psi research at SRI (Stanford Research Institute) he psychically observed the Gas giant planet Jupiter. Up to this point, experiments were more local in nature, both at SRI and the Society for Psychic Research in NY. NASA had launched Pioneer 10 and Pioneer 11 which were due to fly by in September, 1973. The raw data he collected in April yielded thirteen (and only thirteen) unknown factors, all of which were scientifically unanticipated before being later confirmed (some took years) by scientific analysis. Mr. Swann was what is known as a ‘natural’, a psychically gifted individual. By 1975 six of those factors had been confirmed, which alerted CIA that the program was producing tangible results. See: “Penetration” as well as Mr. Swann’s other published and unpublished works, and the exciting work done and published by Lyn Buchanan, Mel Riley, Joseph McMoneagle, Angela Thompson Smith and many others, all who participated in the program and many of whom offer instruction in RV.

      2. Winston –

        Sounds like you, too, have ‘delved’ into that scenario. 🙂
        The thing is, we must always ‘return’ to THIS reality. I remember a group discussion with Joe McMoneagle
        when he admonished us about being ‘lured’ off-course by enticing interests encountered in our “travels”….
        Yes, I admit I found the whole thing to be quite a feeling (out-of-body experience), and felt refreshed and relaxed when I “returned” – but I am careful to remember that we always must return. Your Yoga meditation is much more conducive to peace. 🙂
        The fact is, the quantum world DOES exist, and is beyond most of our abilities to ingest.
        “My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are my ways your ways, saith The Lord” – Isaiah 55:8

  5. “Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.”

    Don’t ascribe this to Einstein. It is simply the First Law of Thermodynamics, which dates back to the early 19th century.

  6. Certainly both blessing and curse to live in a Theatre of All Possibilities.
    Our naïve and limited intellectual capabilities necessitate a perception of time and space as linear, a ‘walk toward death’ as it were. That is a pity, as it precludes consideration of alternate concepts, perhaps more useful.
    Infinity itself begs the question of divisibility of time and space. There can be no series of steps or moments since it is impossible to divide or quantify the limitless. Without beginning or end, origin and destination, there can be no measurement except an arbitrary one.
    Alternatives to linearity might include simultaneity *, that is, time and space existing in a single instant and point in which all exists, including all possibility and outcomes.
    You’d have to agree that would be a pretty trick for sure, to fit all that into such a small Fibber McGee’s closet.

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=fibber+mcgee%27s+closet+youtube&view=detail&mid=4ACFE8B6E04447C905314ACFE8B6E04447C90531&FORM=VIRE

    * Not a ‘simultaneity’ as expressed in Relativity Theory.

  7. The universe may be finite but space is infinite.

    Life is a quantum phenomenon and we have not even started to understand it. A blade of grass is miraculous, but human embryology is mind-blowing. In 12 weeks most of our body is formed.

    Francis Crick, (one of the people who worked out DNA structure) did not believe that the DNA double helix could have occured by random chance.

    1. @ John Kirby

      Francis Crick, (one of the people who worked out DNA structure) did not believe that the DNA double helix could have occured by random chance.

      Interesting. I’m not doubting this statement of yours, I’m just wondering if you can supply a supportive quote or link which helps to reinforce the statement? Thanks.

    2. John Kirby – Some of Crick’s most interesting and lesser known work involved his later life investigations into the Claustrum, the thin irregular sheet of neurons located under the neocortex (Center of the brain). Dr. Crick and Christof Koch have likened it to a orchestra conductor for it’s role in regulating consciousness. I regret to say this knowledge may be being abused by some parties.

  8. I know, to debunk Einstein’s Jewish lies about anything is anti-Semitism – but their is no denying to the fact that since Karl Marx to Gen. Ariel Sharon most political Jew leaders called themselves “atheists” or “humanists”.

    The religious text of Jews, Christianity, Islam, Hindu, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism and Zoroastrian – all claim that God Almighty created everything found in the Universe. That’s why, I made a principle as a youth never to debate with the followers of the so-called “Quantum Physics”.

    Having said that – I like to narrate the story of a Hindu atheist Makandey Katju, former Justice at India’s Supreme Court, who wrote on his personal blog in 2015:

    “I am an atheist, but if I had to choose my religion, I would have chosen Hinduism. That is because while in other religions there is only one God, in Hinduism there are 330 million gods. So you can choose the god who suits your temperament as your. If you are fond of drugs and alcohol, you can choose Lord Shiva ( he is said to be fond of bhaang, dhatura, etc ). If you are fond of many women, you can choose Lord Krishna ( the gopis of Vrindaban were very fond of him and he allegedly married 16000 women at a time ), but if you are devoted to one single woman, which you should be ( ‘ek hi naari sada brahmachari’, as I used to say in court while deciding bigamy cases ) you should choose Lord Rama.”

    Now what can I say more ……

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/12/19/ex-sc-justice-why-i-am-hindu/

  9. I never read before about PARALLEL UNIVERSES and don’t know much about Quantum physics.
    BUT believe me ,I have had personally and physically lived in some other realm , traveled into it,through a light passage. I never told anyone and I will never do.
    it all began in the vast Arabian desert ,as an ancient Arab nomadic custom ,the coming of age ritual ,require that youngsters aged 19 to 21 years old of both sexes to go on a solo desert hunting trip for 3 weeks.
    On that trip, one night I was mediating and voices lead me to a light tunnel in the distance ,even my horse was aware of this ,Horses are very sensitive creatures,so I rode Lilith ,my horse,and off we went toward that tunnel.
    the other Universe or realm ,was serene and peaceful and I could see myself in a completely different world.
    my take on this ,is that in our life in this realm ,we face choices and come upon cross roads on our lives.
    based on our choice ,we shape our future life ,the other choices we didn’t make ,take shape on the other PARALLEL UNIVERSES.

  10. Quantum physics is weird and does not really present a complete picture of reality.

    life itself is a mystery.

    In my humble opinion there is something going on that we do not understand, or even are aware of.

  11. The topic is about Eternity, and from Earth’s point of view, it might seem like a parallel universe. But is it really? We’ve descended so low from reality we hardly know reality. Jesus taught about being born-again (first was a physical birth) meaning born Spiritually. From birth we are born into so many factors that limit us from being born again in Spirit. Planet Earth is hell and the sooner people realize that the better off everyone else will be. Anything that interferes with what Jesus said to do is witchcraft and it should be avoided.

    Celestine “Synchronicity” Experience
    http://JAHTruth.net/redfield.htm

  12. Hi Duke,
    Don’t dismiss quantum theory. It started by a serch for explaining the weird results of the double slit experiment/ This is where light is shone through 2 parallel slits onto a screen and prodces interference patterns that could only be the result of wave-form light. But we can show that light consists of bhotons. So how would the photons know where to go to on the scren

    It gets even weirder when much bigger partcles, such as ions, are projected ONE AT ATIME throught the slots, but still form interference patterns. Again, how could these particles know where to go to form an interference pattern.

    It gets even weirder with the phenomenon of entanglement.

    1. Hi JKDEVON,

      You have been taken for a ride 🙂
      Read the explanation for all the weird conclusions that they make in the link on my posting.

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