Trump Presidency Ends In Ruins — ‘It’s All Over!’

“It’s over for Trump and the hopes of millions of people in the USA
and the rest of the world.  I see very dark clouds on the horizon.”

By THE SAKER

Less than a month ago I warned that a ‘color revolution ‘ was taking place in the USA.  My first element of proof was the so-called “investigation” which the CIA, FBI, NSA and others were conducting against President Trump’s candidate to become National Security Advisor, General Flynn.  Tonight, the plot to get rid of Flynn has finally succeeded and General Flynn had to offer his resignation.  Trump accepted it.

GENERAL MICHAEL FLYNN, TRUMP’S NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR
forced to resign after exactly three and a half weeks in office,
proving Trump is not in charge and is controlled by his ‘Controllers’.

Now let’s immediately get one thing out of the way: Flynn was hardly a saint or a perfect wise man who would single handedly saved the world.  That he was not.  However, what Flynn was is the cornerstone of Trump’s national security policy.

For one thing, Flynn dared the unthinkable: he dared to declare that the bloated US intelligence community had to be reformed.  Flynn also tried to subordinate the CIA and the Joint Chiefs to the President via the National Security Council.  Put differently, Flynn tried to wrestle the ultimate power and authority from the CIA and the Pentagon and subordinate them back to the White House. 

Flynn also wanted to work with Russia. Not because he was a Russia lover, the notion of a Director of the DIA as a Putin-fan is ridiculous, but Flynn was rational, he understood that Russia was no threat to the USA or to Europe and that Russia had the West had common interests.  That is another absolutely unforgivable crimethink in Washington DC.

The Neocon run ‘deep state’ has now forced Flynn to resign under the idiotic pretext that he had a telephone conversation, on an open, insecure and clearly monitored, line with the Russian ambassador.

And Trump accepted this resignation.

Ever since Trump made it to the White House, he has taken blow after blow from the Neocon-run Ziomedia, from Congress, from all the Hollywood doubleplusgoodthinking “stars” and even from European politicians.  And Trump took each blow without ever fighting back.  Nowhere was his famous “you are fired!” to be seen.  But I still had hope.  I wanted to hope.  I felt that it was my duty to hope.

But now Trump has betrayed us all.

Remember how Obama showed his true face when he hypocritically denounced his friend and pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.?  Today, Trump has shown us his true face. 

Instead of refusing Flynn’s resignation and instead of firing those who dared cook up these ridiculous accusations against Flynn, Trump accepted the resignation.  This is not only an act of abject cowardice, it is also an amazingly stupid and self-defeating betrayal because now Trump will be alone, completely alone, facing the likes of Mattis and Pence – hard Cold Warrior types, ideological to the core, folks who want war and simply don’t care about reality.

Again, Flynn was not my hero.  But he was, by all accounts, Trump’s hero.  And Trump betrayed him.

LD: I know some diehard Trump supporters who will refuse to accept this stark verdict: that Trump is a traitor. They will argue that Trump had no choice, finally recognizing perhaps that his powers were strictly limited . That he had to do what he was told. If so, then Trump become a figurehead president from now on: one with no real power, who simply obeys the diktats of the powerful oligarchy in whose hands he is a mere tool or puppet. In other words, the Jews and their shabbos goyim mercenaries are the ones who are really in charge. As they always have been.  [LD]

The consequences of this will be immense. 

For one thing, Trump is now clearly broken. It took the ‘deep state’ only weeks to castrate Trump and to make him bow to the powers that be.  Those who would have stood behind Trump will now feel that he will not stand behind them and they will all move back away from him.  The Neocons will feel elated by the elimination of their worst enemy and emboldened by this victory they will push on, doubling-down over and over and over again.

It’s over, folks, the deep state has won.

From now on, Trump will become the proverbial shabbos-goy, the errand boy of the Israel lobby.  Hassan Nasrallah was right when he called him ‘an idiot‘.

The Chinese and Iranian will openly laugh.

The Russians won’t – they will be polite, they will smile, and try to see if some common sense policies can still be salvaged from this disaster.  Some might. But any dream of a partnership between Russia and the United States has died tonight.

The EU leaders will, of course, celebrate.  Trump was nowhere the scary bogeyman they feared.  Turns out that he is a doormat – very good for the EU.

Where does all this leave us – the millions of anonymous ‘deplorables’ who try as best we can to resist imperialism, war, violence and injustice?

I think that we were right in our hopes because that is all we had – hopes.  No expectations, just hopes.  But now we objectively have very little reasons left to hope.  For one thing, the Washington ‘swamp’ will not be drained.  If anything, the swamp has triumphed.  We can only find some degree of solace in two undeniable facts:

(1) Hillary would have been far worse than any version of a Trump Presidency.

(2)  In order to defeat Trump, the US deep state has had to terribly weaken the US and the AngloZionist Empire.  Just like Erdogan’s purges have left the Turkish military in shambles, the anti-Trump ‘color revolution’ has inflicted terrible damage on the reputation, authority and even credibility of the USA.

The first one is obvious.  So let me clarify the second one.

In their hate-filled rage against Trump and the American people (aka “the basket of deplorables”) the Neocons have had to show they true face.  By their rejection of the outcome of the elections, by their riots, their demonization of Trump, the Neocons have shown two crucial things: first, that US democracy is a sad joke and that they, the Neocons, are an occupation regime which rules against the will of the American people. 

In other words, just like Israel, the USA has no legitimacy left.

And since, just like Israel, the USA are unable to frighten their enemies, they are basically left with nothing, no legitimacy, no ability to coerce.  So yes, the Neocons have won.  But their victory removes the last chance for the US to avoid a collapse.

Trump, for all his faults, did favor the US, as a country, over the global Empire.  Trump was also acutely aware that ‘more of the same’ was not an option.  He wanted policies commensurate with the actual capabilities of the USA.  With Flynn gone and the Neocons back in full control – this is over.

Now we are going to be right back to ideology over reality.

Trump probably could have made America, well, maybe not “great again”, but at least stronger, a major world power which could negotiate and use its leverage to get the best deal possible from the others.  That’s over now.  With Trump broken, Russia and China will go right back to their pre-Trump stance: a firm resistance backed by a willingness and capability to confront and defeat the USA at any level.

I am quite sure that nobody today is celebrating in the Kremlin.

Putin, Lavrov and the others surely understand exactly what happened.  It is as if Khodorkovsy would have succeeded in breaking Putin in 2003.  In fact, I have to credit Russian analysts who for several weeks already have been comparing Trump to Yanukovich, who also was elected by a majority of the people and who failed to show the resolve needed to stop the ‘color revolution’ started against him.  But if Trump is the new Yanukovich, will the US become the next Ukraine?

Flynn was very much the cornerstone of the hoped-for Trump foreign policy.  There was a real chance that he would rein in the huge, bloated and all-powerful three letter agencies and that he would focus US power against the real enemy of the West: the Wahabis.  With Flynn gone, this entire conceptual edifice has now come down.  We are going to be left with the likes of Mattis and his anti-Iranian statements.  Clowns who only impress other clowns.

Today’s Neocon victory is a huge event and it will probably be completely misrepresented by the official media.  Ironically, Trump supporters will also try to minimize it all. 

But the reality is that barring a most unlikely last-minute miracle, it’s over for Trump and the hopes of millions of people in the USA and the rest of the world who had hoped that the Neocons could be booted out of power by means of a peaceful election.  That is clearly not going to happen.

I see very dark clouds on the horizon.

— The Saker

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82 thoughts on “Trump Presidency Ends In Ruins — ‘It’s All Over!’

  1. Thanks to Karen, S.W., and Harold Smith for bringing this truly sensational article to our attention. My head is still reeling! I don’t know whether to commit suicide or pour myself a stiff drink. Instead, I intend to compromise and go for a cross-country run. 🙂

    1. @ LD

      Good luck on your cross-country run. I’d love to join you, but I reckon I’d slow you down! Probably trip over my walking stick! 🙂

      @ Harold Smith

      I would take issue with his implied position [in the Saker article above] that Trump’s presidency started out on the right foot, but Trump lost the battle to the neocons and has now become “castrated”. I believe Trump was either a calculated fraud right from the beginning, or so unprincipled, morally incompetent and generally clueless, that he had no chance to accomplish anything good, right from the beginning.

      This is an interesting thesis, Harold, but it will not endear you to the Trump supporters. So you need to develop this idea and expand on it a little. Is there any evidence that the Donald was an outright scoundrel right from the beginning? I don’t think Lobro or Peter would accept that.

      1. I can’t help wondering what Putin will make of this new situation. I’m also dying with curiosity to know what spin the mainstream media will put on these events. Will they make out that for Trump “it’s business as usual” and that he is simply following in the noble footsteps of George W. Bush and Obama?

        Is this the new scenario: Trump the Tamed Beast . . . the Good Little Boy who is now listening to Mommy and doing what he’s told.

      2. Jewish pressure from outside the White House and Jewish “advice” from inside the White House by son-in-law, “nice Jewish boy”, Jared Kushner, who could resist that ?

        It is impossible to work with Jews. Humans cannot coexist with anti-humans.

      3. @ Sardonicus

        I’m at a low ebb right now…almost at the point of giving up on trying to convince anyone of anything. After all, if they can’t accept what their own eyes are trying to show them, what good can my mere words do?

        Speaking of that, when I look around, e.g. on youtube, it seems like the Trumpster fraudster is a big hit with the “Christian Zionist” crowd, and nothing that happens seems to shake his popularity with Gary Franchi @ “The Next News Network” and loyal followers.
        To these people, Flynn is guilty of “treason” and the Trumpster is hitting the “deep state”, hard, right in the fist, with his face…then he finished them off by smashing them right in the knee with his powerful groin…

        Oh well, I think just like Lasha I’m going to go do some exercise for a while.

      4. Harold Smith :

        You say you supported Trump during the campaign year, you say you’re now opposed to Trump because of his stance on Iran, you’re morally and ethically disappointed because of Trump’s stance on Iran and you now have to withdraw your support of Trump you’re so morally and ethically disappointed about Trump’s stance on Iran. Yet, throughout the whole campaign year Trump was always antagonistic towards Iran.

        So if you feel you have to withdraw your support Trump now because of his stance on Iran, why the f*ck did you support him in the first place?

        Because throughout the whole campaign year Trump was anatagonistic towards Iran and now you say you’re morally opposed to Trump’s stance on Iran. How come [? ] you weren’t morally and ethically opposed to Trump’s antagonistic stance towards Iran during the campaign year when Trump was making antagonistic noises against Iran and you were supporting him then during the campaign year.

        U stupid asshole.

      5. Harold –

        “I’m at a low ebb right now…almost at the point of giving up on trying to convince anyone of anything.”

        Oh, don’t give up. Religions don’t give up. It works for them. Let it work for you. Watchtowers never quit… nor do LDS…. or Pharisee-Jews.

        I have been in the fray since 1953 or so. Showed Protocols back then. Nobody on the submarine believed me. It takes decades for most to come around by observing what you tell them.

        Argument is necessary for learning..!!

        I recommend that you stop trying to “convince” others. Just keep callin’ it like ya see it. 🙂

      6. @ Sister Monica

        That’s a good point.

        The “deep state” seems to be making a big deal out of it. If he’d been on the phone with Satanyahu, instead of an “evil Russian enemy”, and the subject was more money for Israel, and he got “caught”, it’d either be dismissed as a technicality or he’d be deemed a selfless American hero, for trying to help an American ally, or some such BS.

        I think you could be right. I’d be surprised if they didn’t use this “incident” as political cover to drop the last vestiges of the Trumpster’s increasingly burdensome “cooperate with Russia” facade.

      7. @ THEREALORIGINALJEW

        You completely misrepresent what I said, and then you call me a “stupid asshole”? ROTFL!

        You’re supposed to be looking at your monitor, not your mirror, as you type your cartoonish Jew drivel, goofball.

  2. And Petraeus is expected to replace him.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/david-petraeus-michael-flynn-resign-donald-trump-a7578806.html

    Well, it seems that Nafeez Ahmed and the Saker are right.
    https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-trump-regime-was-manufactured-by-a-war-inside-the-deep-state-f9e757071c70#.4e0s9gnl3

    “Hassan Nasrallah was right when he called him ‘an idiot‘.”
    Nah, Putin is an idiot, Trump is just a class A pussy playing the madman for the alt right.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madman_theory
    The Madman strategy was also used by Vladimir Putin. Absolutely not Wikipédia.

    I am moving to the Swiss Alps.

      1. Pat,
        I was joking as Swiss is always neutral in the conflicts. Even German Swiss was not invaded by Germany during WWII, strange thing since it was in the doctrine. Don’t you have those wealthy survivalists in USA preparing for a global conflict in their bunkers? A lot of those in Switzerland.
        Worst come to worst I’ll move back to my Cotentin, i have vegetables, apple trees and people I trust. And it’s close to England.

        Battles will be in Philippines, Indonesia and Australia.
        All of Australia will be a big base.
        http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/19/france-australia-sign-off-major-37-billion-stealth-submarine-deal/ Aussies are tooling up, where is Max Bilney when you need him.

        Maybe Pat, but also in Middle Est, Balkans and Eastern Europe. You may have not noticed since we always talk about Palestine but there are armed conflicts in Ukraine and Yemen as we speak, plus all the conflicts in Africa. Anyway the only enemy of Anglo-Americans is Europe.
        Nobody knows the scale of the conflict that is about to come, if it comes, and the displacement of population that will follow with the restructuration of The World BoE Company.
        Could you send me a machinegun with DHL?

      2. Phil-

        Correct. I’ll repeat some of what I wrote to Gilbert Huntley, below.

        I kept it short. The ME and African attacks will continue. The Yugoslavian area is not out of danger, nor is Ukraine.

        My purpose was to show that there are plenty of areas besides the US, Russia and China…. for the military debts to increase over the next 100 years. China is moving to them now.

        There is always UN Agenda-21 rolling along behind the battles and crusades… for global compliance…

        AND… STANDARDIZATION..!!

  3. Saker…!! WOW..!!!!

    “GENERAL MICHAEL FLYNN, TRUMP’S NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR
    forced to resign after exactly three and a half weeks in office,

    proving Trump is not in charge and is controlled by his ‘Controllers’.”

    I remember that some ‘entity’ wrote that in every thread here since November….

    Trump is a ‘made for TV Buffoon’ and perfect to be pulled around like a puppet.

  4. WOW!

    One No Such Agency Yankee doesn’t get to sit at the oval office and the entire Trump administration, as in administrating death, disease and destruction for Jews, is ALL OVER!

    Such insightful geopolitical analysis from the Faker!

    Lasha, step away from the cliff! A healthy dose of realism and geopolitical common sense is needed!

    1. @ David Chu

      I think it’s just that everybody has their own subjective “tipping point” or “last straw”. (And for some, that point might not come until “Trump” brings the missiles down on us.)

  5. ADMIN: COMMENT DELETED. OFF-TOPIC.
    WE DON’T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE SUPER BOWL.

    Ok, no more posts today. You’ve had your three posts today and two of them have been off-topic.

  6. While we’ll never really know, the very telling part will be when we see the upshot of Putin’s subsequent demeanor. If TPTB are so pervasively strong and omnipotent (as some here believe), what Pat said, above, about confrontations being isolated to venue of the Philippines, Australia, and Indonesia will be the rule. Russia and China will not ally against America, and neither will Russia come to the rescue of Iran. The monetary control octopus prevails in all nations. The parasite has proliferated too far to allow for its own undoing. Only “exercises” in sabre-rattling will be witnessed for everyone’s excitement and debt bondage. No ‘nukes’…

    1. Gil –

      Correct.

      I kept it short. The ME and African attacks will continue. The Yugoslavian area is not out of danger, nor is Ukraine.

      India is already totally controlled. Mumbai Stock Market is up and running, and so is Central Bank.

      My purpose was to show that there are plenty of areas besides the US, Russia and China…. for the military debts to increase over the next 100 years. China is moving to some of them now. No need to destroy Siberia.

      TPTB will not destroy usurious areas of US, EU, China and Russia. They will create more of them. Their nature. 🙂

      There is always UN Agenda-21 rolling along behind the battles and crusades… for global compliance.

      1. Pat –

        Thanks. However, not discounting your illustration of alternative venues, Philippines, Indonesia, and Australia are seemingly appropriate (if somewhere just HAS to be chosen for a battle exercise). (Not much of consequence, there.)
        No need for Darkmoon readers to get too alarmed! 🙂

      2. What I meant, Pat, is that most everything there can be rebuilt and improved AFTER the demolition process of a war… If the usurers finance the process of rebuilding to suit their wants. Job creation – both for military/industrials AND construction sector. It sounds cold-hearted, but that is how TPTB think. All of us are “expendables”. No exceptions (though we’d like to believe otherwise).

        Even though many clues point toward suspicion of Trump being compromised, he’s what we have (he may be a sumbitch, but he’s MY sumbitch – or something like that), and he’s sure-as-hell better than having KILLARY in our White House. For that reason – if for no other – I contend that any thinking American had better think to stand with him, and support him. Many of us rallied ourselves to vote for him. We’re invested!

  7. OMG, people snap out of your reverie. This is an article that exposes what happens when people mix creative mystery writing, false-fake conjecture, fear, paranoia and half-truth worrying. Actually, I think this article is childish and smacks of a troll in sheep’s clothing

    Trump has been in office 3 + weeks, still doesn’t have his complete cabinet in place, is awaiting the confirmation of a superb Supreme Court nominee and needs time for his teams to get up to speed. It is a normal series of events when you are building a team. I have started several companies (and sold them all for a profit) and during the set-up and beginning stages I have let numerous people go in the early stages, if IN THE LONG run they look to being a possible liability. It is easy: “Your fired. Here is your paycheck. Thanks for your time”. Cut your losses and move forward or, in this case, perhaps Trump wound wind up wasting time and effort trying to put the proverbial square-peg in a round-hole. Cut your losses and move on. There are other candidates who can fill that slot easily. In fact, pop some popcorn and watch Nancy Pelosi & Chuckles Schumer all flip-flop like barnyard animals who have had too much sun.

    Another thing I learned in business (and government IS a business) is that you’ll “know right away if you hired a good person, where as, it will take you 18 months to discover it you hired a BAD person”. So, whatever are ALL of the weights-and-balance and conditions that led to Flynn having to step down…..it’s ALL OK and we can move on…..NEXT!

    I am appalled and really disappointed that SO MANY people, including a large number of people here ( I still like you all), seem to have forgotten the stunning importance of Trump’s victory in the election. It was NOT a fluke. It was well planned and had been in the works for a long, long time. In the end, he destroyed Bush, Cruz, Rubio, Christie and 19 other republican challengers. THEN, he spanked Hillary Clinton who, up until election night, was SURE she was going to waltz into the White House and finalize the Great Rape of America. On top of that, he crushed the “Main-Stream. Left-Wing-Socialist-Commie Media” (we ALL KNOW who run it, right?) and those in the so-called Center Media, too. Moreover, he took on the Republican Establishment, the so-called Deep-State, the embedded Muslim spies and on and on and on and on…..and still won!

    Why? Because he had and has a plan that is much broader, thought-out, deeper, more concise than anything most people can comprehend or consider.

    So, to all these folks grabbing your shovels to bury him in first 3 weeks in office, you clearly expose your OWN lack of insight, wisdom and knowledge of what is coming…..so grab those shovels and start digging your own holes and jump in. And NO NEED to cover you up, as the winds of change will arrive and bury you.

    Please, please, please……quiet yourselves and watch and wait….before making ANY assumptions. It quite alright to not be a know-it-all and respond to questions about events in the world with a simple…..”I am pondering. Waiting and watching”.

    You all need some “tough love” and a glass of cold water in the face……wake up, calm down, be smart. You all are starting to sound like left-wingers….which I am beginning to wonder about.

    Bottom line is that smart people, wise people are neither left-or-right. We simply “are”…..and if you really sit back and watch Trump, the man is in “the zone” and a lot of good is on the horizon…..give the man some space and support….. I KNOW he has things planned that, in the end, will drain the swamp and usher in a new perspective that will crack the shell that people are trying to create to smother our bright, bright futures.

    http://www.theliberist.com

    1. @ Redmond Walker

      Thanks for that. I know I’ll feel a lot better now when the Trumpster fraudster and his gaggle of Jewish-supremacist handlers finally bring the missiles down on us.

    2. Yes Trump beat all of his adversaries. They were all jews like him, so what, jews bitching with each other and using the stupid whites/masses for their internal strives. Sick and tired of all these stupid whites who still don’t understand that this is the old jewish game. Trump is no saviour, he is a crypto-jew, a zio-nazi.

    3. @ Redmond Walker

      OMG, people snap out of your reverie. This is an article that exposes what happens when people mix creative mystery writing, false-fake conjecture, fear, paranoia and half-truth worrying. Actually, I think this article is childish and smacks of a troll in sheep’s clothing…

      Maybe you’re right, Redmond. I hope you are! On the other hand, isn’t it strange that the Saker should have anticipated squawking noises of protest from diehard Trump supporters such as yourself? This is what he says in the concluding paragraphs of his thought-provoking article:

      Today’s Neocon victory is a huge event and it will probably be completely misrepresented by the official media. Ironically, Trump supporters will also try to minimize it all.

      That’s exactly what you’re trying to do — “MINIMIZE IT ALL.”

      Good try, Redmond, but wishful thinking is no substitute for hard facts and logic! 🙂

    4. Redmond Walker
      you gave yourself up bonehead ,your weak ideology of hate and fear mongering is so easy to spot ,it’s the talking points of idiots ,just like your psychopath clown savior , the moron have no brain or the intellectual abilities to play any games ,he is simply said is the game .
      by the way cretin , there is an embedded Muslim spy under your bed ,stupid cunt

      1. Hey Who,

        I respect your right to speak your mind, and I usually respond with some degree of respect, IF the person making the statements says something pertinent and on topic. But, you lose me, and others, when you revert to calling people names and trying to demean them. It shows a couple glaring inabilities. First of all, name calling screams “liberal troll” because, instead of contributing to the discourse, you stoop to name calling. Second, when people revert to name-calling and don’t contribute with an contributory demeanor, it smacks of someone who can’t comprehend the topic at hand and offering anything of value to the discussion. Moreover, it exposes the kind of people who doesn’t understand the basic principles and processes needed to be part of an open forum of discourses. When you are part of a forum, you share perspectives. You act as if you are or have been personally attacked. I did not do that. Moreover, we are “talking here”….NOT debating. Debating and discussing are two different and distinct forms of communication.

        Probably best if you head on over to CNN or MSNBC and ping your megaphone there. As a new visitor to DarkMoon, I am drawn into the unique depth and triangulation of the topics and a lot of the writings. Sadly, someone with your motivation and perspectives only muddy the waters.

        Here’s your hat back.

  8. Trump expects Russia to ‘return Crimea’

    “Crimea is a part of Ukraine. Our Crimea-related sanctions will remain in place until Russia returns control of the peninsula to Ukraine,” Haley said at the UN Security Council meeting on February 2.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/377346-spicer-russia-return-crimea/

    US President Donald Trump has been tough on Russia and expects Moscow to “return” the Crimea peninsula to Ukraine, the White House spokesman told reporters.
    Addressing the resignation of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn – hounded by the media over his contacts with Russian diplomats prior to Trump’s inauguration – Spicer pointed out that Russia “seized” Crimea under the Obama administration and that the Trump-appointed ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley has “strongly denounced the Russian occupation.”
    “President Trump has made it very clear that he expects the Russian government to de-escalate violence in the Ukraine and return Crimea,” Spicer said at the daily news briefing on Tuesday. “At the same time, he fully expects to – and wants to – get along with Russia.”

    1. @ Pat

      “President Trump has made it very clear that he expects the Russian government to de-escalate violence in the Ukraine and return Crimea,” Spicer said at the daily news briefing on Tuesday. “At the same time, he fully expects to – and wants to – get along with Russia.”

      How could a reasonable person even respond to such deceitful, incomprehensible nonsense? I think the only purpose for this rhetoric is to ramp back up to confrontation.

      1. Harold –

        How could… anyone..??

        It is the ‘same old song’ ….. just like the ones Ari Fleischer(Pharisee-Jew) gave for 911…. and war on Afghanistan as he did when he was White House Press Secretary…. In office January 20, 2001 thru 2003. HE fed us a dead guy… Bin Laden… every day..!!

        DAMAGE CONTROL..!!

        But, the Trump followers have blinders on … and want us to wait….. while Trump lies to us.. thru Spicer…!! 🙂

  9. Pretty funny responses. Is that the best you have?

    Really, folks, you have got to simmer down and don’t get drawn into the chitter-chatter of all the fake news and comments…..you are reaching and over-heating. Slow and steady now.

    So, I’ll leave you with this…..sit back and watch Trump. He is NOT want anyone thinks. In the end, all of you will be smiling as we watch him disassemble Zionism once-and-for-all.

    You read it here first……

      1. I am right….bank on it, bro …..and once we all see that what I’ve said is true…..I’ll take everyone out for dinner…..except Harold. I’m gonna fix him up with Katy Perry…..

  10. I don’t know much about the political arena in the US but I gather nobody is irreplaceable as lots of reliable patriotic politicians are out there, ready to help Trump…at least avoid an all- destructive war with Russia.

    Flynn was but a straw, blown by a phone call (his own!). Trump may also have his own “phone call” secretly kept until needed, though he might be harder to dethrone as an elected President. My guess is that he will be stripped off his power by finding faults in the staff he chose and providing him (in a way or another) with “faulty” ones.
    Anyway, if Trump only manages to curb the cabal urges for preemptive wars during his first term it would be a success. Let him “make America great again” later on, during a second Presidential term (Wow!).

    You might not imagine the power of the Shadow Government that opposes his program..

    This video by Paul Hellyer is about false flag but it incidentally gives an idea about the mightiness of the deep State, at least in the first 20 minutes I have just watched.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sza0WuB6l_U

    PS
    “… the real enemy of the West: the Wahabis.”
    The Seeker seems to miss the woods for the trees.

  11. Entertainment….. Pharisee-Jews are really good at shoah-biz…

    The Republicans are eating each other… AND the BIG FAT Republican – Rush – just shored up more damage control.. 🙂

    Senate Republicans Demand Investigation of Trump and Russia

    https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/02/14/lindsey-graham-demands-investigation-of-trump/

    “The Senate’s second-ranking Republican and other GOP senators are calling for an investigation into connections between President Donald Trump and Russia, and want former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn to testify. Sen. John Cornyn, who has called for an investigation into Trump’s tie to Russia before Flynn resigned, told reporters Tuesday that the Senate standing committees with oversight of intelligence need to investigate Flynn. Sen. Roy Blunt, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, also told KTRS radio he wanted to speak with Flynn. Blunt told KTRS radio that an investigation ‘needs’ to happen.

    “‘I think everybody needs that investigation to happen,’ he said. ‘And the Senate Intelligence Committee — again, that I serve on — has been given the principle responsibility to look into this, and I think that we should look into it exhaustively so that at the end of this process, nobody wonders whether there was a stone left unturned, and shouldn’t reach conclusions before you have the information that you need to have to make those conclusions.’

    “Sen. Lindsey Graham also said he wants an investigation into Flynn’s conversations with a Russian ambassador about sanctions. ‘I think Congress nees [sic] to be informed of what actually Gen. Flynn said to the Russian ambassador about lifting sanctions… And I want to know, “Did General Flynn do this by himself or was he directed by somebody to do it?”‘” So it turns out that I was right about all of this except for one thing: It’s the Republicans now that are demanding this. Senator Graham thinks that Flynn was discussing the lifting of sanctions with the Russian ambassador, Obama sanctions on Russia for hacking the election.

    So I guess the Republicans are content with that premise to survive, that the Russians hacked the election, and that maybe is why the Democrats lost and then Flynn went and made a call to the Russian ambassador in December. Now Senator Lindsey Graham wants to know if Flynn made that call on his own or if he was directed to make that call by somebody — and if so, who, and did they talk about the lifting of sanctions that Obama had slapped on the Russians?

  12. “LD: I know some diehard Trump supporters who will refuse to accept this stark verdict: that Trump is a traitor. They will argue that Trump had no choice, finally recognizing perhaps that his powers were strictly limited . That he had to do what he was told. If so, then Trump become a figurehead president from now on: one with no real power, who simply obeys the diktats of the powerful oligarchy in whose hands he is a mere tool or puppet. In other words, the Jews and their shabbos goyim mercenaries are the ones who are really in charge. As they always have been. [LD]”

    wow, really, ya think? It’s had to believe and I for one, am truly shocked. Close the coffin lid would ya’, it’s cold in here.

  13. i like your attitude, Redmond-the red-blooded-guy.
    our Agent Orange is neither down nor out.
    flynn was a mixed bag and though he had CIA in his sights and thought he could remake them in a more patriotic mold, he failed the state drug cartel won the day.
    on the other hand, he was bizarrely anti-iran so i don’t think his tanking from public view will leave anyone in tehran in tears.

    so, to most of the rest of this screamatorium: save your breath, wake me up when the fat lady sings.

    1. Here’s a wake-up call fer ya, brother lobro, from a half-redman

      *In contributing to an understanding of the cycles of time and passing through it’s yugas, I bring to the readers attention an interpretation suggesting that the planet has actually been out of the kali yuga since the time of William I in 11th century England. Upon his conquest in 1066, the seeds for the political principles of self-government were planted, signaling the beginning of the end of the punitive feudal system in W. Europe, thus marking a paradigm shift to the ascending dwapara yuga and mankind’s gradual awakening from his slumber in returning to spiritual empowerment.

      In response to this “breakthrough” has been the ever-present jews and their freemason proxies whose subterfuge is featured by overseeing a SUBLIMATED version of feudal servitude running concurrent to what has essentially been an awakening period for the planet and all it’s inhabitants.

      Although the last 950 years may not have given the APPEARANCE of an awakening, looks are nothing if not deceiving

      Satan’s reign is near the end
      no one knows exactly when

      From Brownhawk’s lips to God’s ears

      *I enjoin writers on this site to expand on this observation, and perhaps Admin. would think about spinning it off to the posting of a pertinent article for further discourse.

  14. This “editorial” and it’s assumptions are flawed. My first time to this site.
    Not coming back. Lack of truth and intelligence.

    Some things are not what they seem. Time will reveal.

  15. What the psychopath clown legacy is that he brought the Antisemitism and Islamophobia and Immigrants-phobia From The Shadows, .The bigots have found each other, and they encourage each other, these are the basket of deplorable and their antics of fear and hate.porn.
    America has been kind and generous toward minorities since its inception, and will continue to be so . despite these basket of deplorable hillbilly characters.
    People are ignoring this basic truth about the righteousness and the essence of the true American creed ,Land of the Free and home of the Brave ,the bigots are simply said are cowards so their hero the clown, the true America is might with kindness that might fill you with wonder one day, self-doubt the next. the vast majority of Americans of all backgrounds aren’t racists or bigots, they are kind and God loving and finding each other, every day ,again and again.in opposing the clown bigot in chief , this is what love in America looks like.

  16. “It’s over, folks, the deep state has won.”

    The Saker has spoken! So, now Trump gets a break from Darkmoon commenters and the usuals can go back to bashing Putin. Ahh, the good old days.

  17. Ungenius
    The White House has also spoken, demanding Russia “return” Crimea to Ukraine. A very short lived detente between the USA and Russia, indeed. I confess I had hopes of something better from Trump, but it’s time to admit I was wrong. By accepting Flynn’s resignation Trump has signed the death warrant of his Presidency and that of his country.
    I know this is difficult for Americans to accept, but all physical things are impermanent. You, yourself, will not be an American forever. Death comes to us all. Look to the long term, no Empire has lasted forever and the same applies to the USA. Many pundits predict the break up of the USA before the end of the century. The same applies to the UK.

    1. Felix,
      note that trump is in damage control mode, having fired Flynn, everyone is now yelling that it is smoking gun proof that they are all a bunch of Russians with fake US passports, sort of Obama-the-Kenyan in reverse.

      So, to prove that he is not a Russian (I am sure jew speech experts are already out to prove that Trump speaks with a heavy russian accent), he is “demanding return of Crimea” (or “Korea”, according to maxine Waters, what’s the diff to most Murriguns).
      Putin can always say, “we’ll return Crimea when you return Alaska”.

    2. @ Felix

      “The White House has also spoken…”

      If we are to believe those that say Trump is a fraud/liar, then no credence can be given to the statement by Haley concerning Crimea. What is the real reason for the Crimea statement? There could be a few from keeping the jewish media in an endless tither to appearing to go along with the Congressional jewish whores. I do recall the big flap about the “One China” policy and Trump reversing his supposed stance so that Chinese face could be preserved by giving them back what they already had while Trump maintained his desired unpredictability.

      Rest assured, Felix, that I do not operate under the illusion that the jewish/Freemason coup of 1789 will last forever. I am American only because I was born here, not because I believe in the jewish coup of 1789 that was sold by propaganda to be something wonderful rather than what it really was. I know that the function of the USA under the jewish Constitution was/is to accomplish the Jew World Order and I have been surprised that it has lasted as long as it has since things jewish normally have a short lifespan because of the destructive, evil nature of the jews.

      I would point out that the longest lasting Empire of 1,200 years was a Christian theocracy, the Byzantine Empire. Their longevity was due to their suppression of the jews. Obviously, they were not Judeo-Christians as most of the misguided today. The Byzantine Empire is a testament to good keeping evil at bay.

      I view Trump as a thorn in the side of the Jew World Order/Globalism. Trump was opposed by all western governments except Russia while he was campaigning, as President elect, and as President. A lot can be said about a person just based on who his enemies are, both foreign and domestic. I favor anyone that deters evil even it does not result in a complete victory.

      Western societies are jewish programed to have no patience. Declaring Trump’s Presidency a complete failure after less than one month is merely jewish programing at work in the minds of those who do not think that they are programed. Living where you have chosen to, you know the value of patience.

  18. Trump is in a struggle of epic proportions. He undid the Republican fools in the primaries ,and revealed what a fraud the ” Left ” ,is upon taking power . Both part of the Talmudic Dialectic or Left / Right Matrix . In his entry on the political stage so much of the Judiac system has been revealed . No ,he is not perfect ,or the NS Revolution I. Germany 1933 ,but is good as it gets within limits . International Jewry declared war on Trump, when he wiped out Trans Pacific Partnership ,and blocked, block head Shahbaz Goy creep; John Bolton from becoming Deputy Secretary Of State ,and evil Trotskyite, ‘ Rightist ‘ ( former aide to Democrat US Senators Scoop Jackson ,and Pat Monihan ) for that job as Zionist controller of his Secretary Of State Tillerson . The removal of General Flynn is a big warning to Trump . Come to heel,or more furious attacks await . We are also seeing what the sharp observer knew since the GOP convention . Mike Pence the Zionist Christian ‘ conservative ‘ ,and ambitious Hoosier hick is no Trump loyalist . He ditched Trump ,and the debate ,to the media’s glee ,and this starchy poposity, salivated openly , when there were calls for Trump to step aside over the Billy Bush interview revelations . Pence is anti Putin’s Russia ,and helped push Flynn out . Take note: Trump has done all he could to placate the system . Establishment GOP cabinet choices , Jew Advisers ,and making a big thing out of putting Rothschild’s puppet ,that most evil of men’s bust Churchill back into the Oval Office . This Breitbart ‘ Alt Right’ Zionist apologetics as a shield ,as proved cardboard . At the UN his silly token , unqualified Ambassador ,Nikki Haley ,is now following the Neoconservative/ Obama / CFR Rothschild’s line on Crimea . This with Trump’s blessing . Is it ” over ? “. That’s only if Trump can stop the confusion in his own mind . Adolf Hitler once said ,” If the Jews are going to hate me ,I’ll take advantage of it “. If Trump takes on his enemies fully ,he and the world has a shot . If not ,the lineal march of the ” eternal Jews ” ,system to enslave this planet for their Sumerian Tribal diety continues until Armegedden.

    1. It’s good to see a comment from you on here Dante. This is Peter, refugee from The Ugly Truth.
      Ariadnatheo said she misses you too. There are some people on here that completely mischaracterize Trump’s rise to power and his strong will to overcome the opposition. I also think there are some, that no matter who the President of the US is, will attack him and hope he fails. Regardless, I think you put things in the proper context.

      Does he have the will he showed during the presidential race and will he stand up for what he believes or will he cave in to the Jews? I too, hope he fights. But I personally believe Trump may only be the beginning of the struggle to wrestle the west back from Jewish control. If Trump continues to fight, I think he will be rewarded with strong support from his supporters, in particular the Alt-Right, and if he doesn’t fight it will be a lost battle but I don’t think the struggle is over. I believe the Alt-Right is here to stay and that it will get stronger, even if Trump capitulates. And the next Trump equivalent might not be in the US. It might be Le Pen in France or someone from AFD in Germany.

      At this time all these people struggle for the survival of whites, while being careful not to confront the Jews directly, but down the road that will be the next phase. Step by step, as when AFD’s Björn Höcke called the Berlin Holocaust Memorial an insult to the German people a few weeks ago.

      1. “Björn Höcke called the Berlin Holocaust Memorial an insult to the German people.”

        That’s a bald and pithy statement. I didn’t know Mr Höcke, all I know is Frauke Petry born in Dresden, since it is hard to follow the news in Germany, while France and Germany are supposed to be a couple.

        So I go to his Wikipedia page and surprise, not really, he is from a family of heimatvertriebene. I fully agree with him, this monument is an insult but not lost for anybody

      2. By the way, last update of Thierry Meyssan about Trump.

        Thierry Meyssan invites us to observe Donald Trump without judging him by the same criteria as his predecessors, but by trying to understand his own logic. He notes that the President of the United States is trying to restore peace and relaunch world commerce, but on new foundations, completely different from the current system of globalisation.
        So ExxonMobil Tillerson is a friend of Putin.

      3. yes phil, i was speculating that with “bomb iran” flynn out of the way, Tillerson gets maneuvering room and a bigger share of the decision pie.
        i keep wondering about the lack of reaction from Putin and even the mullahs, i guess they are not hysteria junkies like 99% of America and the west.
        must be the fluoridated h2o dusted over with chemtrail residue that breeds this electrified reaction, jew twiddling the knobs at the control panel.

      4. Lobro –

        Russia’s “hysteria junkies” and Putin ARE.. making noises..!! 🙂

        “We don’t give back our own territory. Crimea is territory belonging to the Russian Federation,” Maria Zakharova, spokeswoman for the Russian Foreign Ministry, told a news briefing on Wednesday.

        The 2014 annexation prompted the United States and the European Union to impose sanctions on Russia, plunging Western relations with the Kremlin to their worst level since the Cold War.

        White House spokesman Sean Spicer said on Tuesday that Trump expected and wanted to get along with Russia, but was expecting Moscow to hand Crimea back.

        Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, when asked about Spicer’s comments, said President Vladimir Putin had already explained why Crimeans had turned to Russia.

        “The theme of returning Crimea will not be discussed … Russia does not discuss its territorial integrity with foreign partners,” Peskov told a conference call with reporters.

        http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-ukraine-idUSKBN15U0U0

        And… related:

        U.S. President Donald Trump knew for weeks that national security adviser Michael Flynn had misled the White House about his contacts with Russia but did not immediately force him out, an administration spokesman said on Tuesday.

        Trump was informed in late January that Flynn had not told Vice President Mike Pence the whole truth about conversations he had before Trump took office with Russia’s ambassador to the United States, White House spokesman Sean Spicer said.
        http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-flynn-idUSKBN15T226

      5. @ Peter

        “But I personally believe Trump may only be the beginning of the struggle to wrestle the west back from Jewish control.”

        You can’t be serious, can you? If so your babe-in-the-woods better start doing something before the advent of the Jew-inspired nuclear war, not after.

      6. Great to here from you Peter ! Here we are refuges from TUT ! I miss you ,and Ariadnatheo very much . You are both brilliant people ,and contributed do much . I will be back on a blog coming soon ; Podcast and all .Free and uncensored to defend against,and expose the eternal enemy . We must stay vigilant ,and not tire . A ” Triumph Of The Will ” ,of the mind ,and heart . You ,and dear Ariad are welcome to contact me anytime: danteardenz@gmail.com

      7. @ Dante Ardenz

        Ariadna is more than welcome to return to our website. She was not banned but chose to leave voluntarily after a serious misunderstanding. She thought a comment of hers had been deleted “unfairly” because far more offensive comments had been allowed by other people.

        She failed to understand that it was not the toxicity of the comment that mattered to us. It was the fact that her toxic comment had been addressed to a particular AUTHOR on our site, Israel Shamir. Our published authors belong in a special category and, though they may be criticized for their views, they must on no account be DEFAMED or subjected to SCATALOGICAL ABUSE!

        Ariadna was guilty of this — guilty in spades! — and so her comment was justifiably deleted.

        Toby has explained the situation below. This is copypasted from a comment on another thread:

        ADMIN TOBY: CONCERNING ARIADNATHEO (aka ‘Ariadna Theokopoulos’)

        Ariadnatheo failed to understand that her post had to be deleted because it was in clear breach of one of the most important rules of our website: that our article writers need to be protected from defamatory and scatalogical abuse. She failed to distinguish between vile abuse directed at other commenters on the site (permitted) and writers we do NOT publish (also permissible within reason) and vile abuse directed at authors we publish on our site, in this case, Israel Shamir. (NOT permitted).

        Thus if Aradnatheo had attacked any commenter on our site or Writer X (never published on our site), her abusive comment would NOT have been deleted. But if she were to attack Kevin MacDonald or Mark Glenn with similar ferocity, writers we happen to know and whose articles we have published, she would NOT have been allowed to indulge her taste for scatalogical abuse.

        Israel Shamir would certainly have deleted Ariadnatheo’s abusive comment had he been monitoring the comments. We did it for him, since we were acting on his behalf in publishing the article. Ariadnatheo completely failed to understand the situation and thought she had license to scream scatalogical abuse at anyone she chose. Not on our site she can’t!

        # 10. WRITERS PUBLISHED HERE. Feel free to find fault with the writers we publish and offer constructive criticism of their work, but please refrain from vilifying them with crude, offensive, and defamatory language. Commenters are free to abuse and insult other commenters if they wish, within reason, but for legal reasons they must not apply the same level of invective to the writers we publish. Treat our writers with the same degree of respect you would like for yourself. If you can’t do that, keep silent; or go to some other website where scurrility and scatology are standard practice.

        https://www.darkmoon.me/site-policies-and-guidelines/

        As far as we are concerned, Ariadnatheo crossed the red line as soon as she started addressing the administrators of this site with insolence and contempt, after we had kindly offered her the hospitality of our site and were even prepared to consider publishing her articles. She is always welcome to return here if she wishes, but she must understand that we do not expect commenters to lecture us high-handedly on our policies or get us to rewrite the rules of our website to suit her.

        That is a fair comment. We have no reason to discriminate against Ariadna unfairly. Why should we? She was one of our best posters and we were extremely sad to see her go.

        In any case, Toby is no longer the monitor here. I am. And so I invite Ariadna to return. (Toby has no administrative rights here whatsoever and posts here only as a private individual … only very occasionally, too!).

      8. @Phil – I come from a family of expellees also. My mother fled from a city given to Poland after the war. It is probably more likely that expellees and their descendants are more nationalistic.

        @Dante – Thank you. I look forward to hearing more from you, including your podcast. I will send Ariadna your e-mail address and your best wishes. She hasn’t been feeling well, but will hopefully be feeling better soon.

  19. Lobro.
    I hope you’re right, but the forces of evil are already attacking Trump for contacting the Russians. Read the headlines of the Guardian and Independent. Even if he is sincere and rides this out, he is now too weakened to make any changes to US foreign policy. He is now a lame duck. It’s going to be death by a thousand cuts, like Nixon, and then Pence will take over. The first time I set eyes on Pence and the way his unsmiling visage gazed at Trump, he reminded me of a vulture waiting for a piece of carrion to die.

    1. @Felix

      Interesting observation

      Trump is similar to Reagan in many respects, and it was ex-CIA chief George H.W. Bush (Schiff) who was the de facto president in those years (in spite of Hinkley’s bullet missing Reagan’s heart by what, a quarter of an inch?)

      just sayin….

  20. if i was trump, i would aim for the martial law and polish that guillotine to a high gloss.
    i think it’s the only way forward or else be swallowed by the same python that corrupted the original garden of eden.
    at least fail like a man instead of forever running and hiding before ending up like a cornered rat.

    1. Yes Lobro, the zither music begins. Of course I knew Trump was only the lesser of two evils, but I hoped he would be less belligerent than his opponent. I thought he actually might join hands with Putin. But now – Russia must “return” Crimea? Preposterous, and the last straw for me.
      Now it appears that there will be no escape from escalation.
      There is a silver lining though, in that there will once again be an anti-war movement, since it’s not the golden negro dropping the bombs.
      Another benefit is that the left has become fractured, since stung so badly by the electoral loss some of them begin to wonder why they ever abandoned worker solidarity for identity politics racism/white bashing.

      1. SW –

        Russia said today it would not hand back Crimea to Ukraine or discuss the matter with foreign partners after the White House said U.S. President Donald Trump expected the annexed Black Sea peninsula to be returned.

        Moscow says an overwhelming majority of Crimeans voted to become part of Russia in a 2014 referendum wanting protection from what the Kremlin cast as an illegal coup in Kiev.

        http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-ukraine-idUSKBN15U0U0

      2. @ Pat

        Thanks for that link.

        I believe that the Trump administration’s demand for the return of Crimea was a calculated insult, part of the overall plan designed to anger the Russians and prevent any kind of improvement in diplomatic relations.

        And from Maria Zakharova’s somewhat patronizing statement, “[we] don’t give back our own territory…” , it seems the plan is working, as the Russians are apparently getting a little irritated with the Trumpster fraudster and his petty BS.

        And the statement by Vyacheslav Volodin although polite as always, implies serious doubts about Trump’s honesty and integrity (IMO at least):

        “Let’s wait for some first-hand words from the U.S. president,” said Volodin. “When people get elected by voters it’s not merely for warm words and the ability to speak, but for concrete promises … that will be fulfilled.”

        If innocent babe-in-the-woods Trumpster can’t even prevent his own people from making preposterous and damaging statements (that make him look like a fool and undermine his “foreign policy”), how’s he ever going to stop the “deep state” from doing anything worse?

  21. Apologists should KNOW….

    Trump is not getting rid of his circles or kickles… 🙂

    Trump praises Pharisee-Jew at Bloomberg…!!

    Donald J. Trump Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump
    4:28 AM – 15 Feb 2017

    “Thank you to Eli Lake of The Bloomberg View – “The NSA & FBI…should not interfere in our politics…and is” Very serious situation for USA”

    1. Trump the Buffoon must not have figgered out YET 🙂 that he is in charge of NSA and FBI..

      …. and he can have Sessions charge them…
      ……. and his US Marshals can arrest them..!!

      STOP THEM..!!

      All his intelligence and offices…. and not a brain to be found..!! 🙂

      It “IS ALL OVER”… before it got started..!!

    1. Lobro –

      Koch brothers are in Trump camp. I doubted it at first, but know better, now (due to close family connections).
      There is, indeed, a powerful silent faction of Americans who would please your preferences. 🙂

      1. Gil –

        I followed Koch Brothers’ MASSIVE corruption and bribes in 2011.

        Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker: Funded by the Koch Bros.

        1) Koch Brothers get their puppet Governor Walker in power
        2) Governor Walker gins up a crisis
        3) Democrats and Progressives take the bait and counter-protest on collective bargaining
        4) Governor Walker will compromise on collective bargaining if the rest of the budget is passed as is
        5) Bill passes, with trojan horse give-a-way to the Koch Brothers nested in
        6) Koch Brothers will buy Wisconsin state-owned power plants for pennies on the dollar in closed unsolicitated bids for which there will be no oversight
        7) Koch Brothers get the best vertical monopoly in a generation

        http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/21/947947/-The-Koch-Brothers-End-Game-in-Wisconsin

        Thanks to Kochs’ poodles on the Supreme Court, this sort of activity is now legal. Poor Tom DeLay, bet he feels stupid for bribing the wrong people. Anyway, through the use of propaganda and corporate influence, the Kochs’ money got their pigeon into the Governor’s office.

        What they wanted was…. To get power plants for pennies. They wanted…

        State of Wisconsin SENATE BILL 11 to read….

        “…with or without solicitation of bids, for any amount…”

        SECTION 44. 16.896 of the statutes is created to read: 16.896 Sale or contractual operation of state−owned heating, cooling, and power plants.

        (1) Notwithstanding ss. 13.48 (14) (am) and 16.705 (1), the
        department may sell any state−owned heating, cooling, and power plant or may – contract with a private entity – for the operation of any such plant,

        with or without solicitation of bids, for any amount

        that the department determines to be in the best interest of the state.
        Notwithstanding ss. 196.49 and 196.80, no approval or
        certification of the public service commission is necessary for a public utility to purchase, or contract for the operation of, such a plant, and any such purchase is considered to be in the public interest and to comply with the criteria for certification of a project under s. 196.49 (3) (b).

    2. Yes, Kucinich laid it out ‘quite nicely’! It all boils down to $$ and the job security of the military/industrials – about which we have been warned FOR YEARS. CIA, et.al., are demonstrating their desire to return to their Cold War status.

  22. meanwhile, i interpret “crimea demands” in a completely different fashion.

    It only serves to portray Trump as distanced from Putin because of all the judaic screeching about how they are working in tandem (i seem to recall someone here fully claiming that Trump was a Putin stooge after election) and using this as a crowbar to dislodge Trump loyalists from the white house.

    this “demand” creates an appearance of friction rather than smooth lockstep cooperation that the jew press goes on about 24/7 and it provides a bit of shelter for the next set of victims, such as Kellyanne Conway and steve bannon.
    who is in charge of fbi, still comey?
    can’t really trust him but the thing is that trump needs to lean on FBI to start the process of arresting pizzagate baby eaters, starting with Hillary and Sessions hand out indictments.
    That would surely take heat off trump’s people and put it where it belongs – JUDEA.
    no better way to reverse the momentum.

    1. Lobro,
      What good is it if Trump proves he is a ‘strong man’ here in the USA if he does not castrate NATO, befriend the Russians, and bring an end to senseless overseas wars?
      What good is it if he stops immigration while attacking Iran and risking nuclear war with China? America must abandon it’s imperialistic dreams of world hegemony. And they are dreams, unrealistic, that cannot be maintained for long.

      Yes, I’d love to see Trump start the arrests of domestic riot leaders and financiers, the intel leakers, and the pizza perverts. But how does that avail us when the nukes go off and the grid goes down?

      1. SW

        What good is it if Trump proves he is a ‘strong man’ here in the USA if he does not castrate NATO, befriend the Russians, and bring an end to senseless overseas wars?

        Let me tell you what good it is: 1 comes before 2, ie, we must have our priorities in order.
        who set up NATO, made enemies of russians and is fomenting endless wars?
        It is that “who” who must be neutralized, the pit that spews forth unending evil must be plugged up tight – eliminated with extreme prejudice.
        Watch what is happening: hour on hour, slime belches forth about how trump team cozies up to ‘enemy’.
        So what is the said trump team supposed to do, cozy up to “enemy” in full view of Jews lined up outside Sderot with binoculars?

        Without jews, we have no enemy.
        Without jews, no one really has an enemy.
        Think about it.

  23. AND… The hits just keep on comin’.. 🙂

    Donald J. Trump Verified account ‏@realDonaldTrump
    5:13 AM – 15 Feb 2017

    The real scandal here is that classified information is illegally given out by “intelligence” like candy. Very un-American!

    Whew..!!

    As the highest law enforcement officer in the US, and since he KNOWS it was “illegally given out..” he should learn HOW TO lock down the doors to the “candy” stores.. and arrest the criminals..!!

  24. It was a done deal before it even began. Trump IS part of The Deep State. He’s a billionaire so he’s already in “The Club.” You HAVE noticed how he has backtracked on EVERY promise he has made. He knew he couldn’t repeal Obamacare, that’s why he promised he would. He knew he couldn’t build a wall and make Mexico pay for it, that’s why he promised he would. He knew he couldn’t stop Muslim immigration into America, that’s why he promised he would. He has FAILED at everything he has attempted because he KNEW they were impossible tasks to accomplish, but his supporters would vote him into office if he just stated that he would.

    He used his supporters just to get into office, now that he’s there he is positioning himself to be massively enriched through memberships in his Mar A Lago Club and other personal business interests around the globe. I’m sure you’re not deceiving yourself, but noticed how quickly he gave up Michael Flynn to the wolves to be eaten alive. Trump sacrificed Flynn because his “handlers” commanded him to do so. If Flynn was innocent then why did Trump fire him so readily? Why didn’t Trump stand by his National Security Advisor and declare his innocence to the world? Trump threw Flynn under the bus faster than you could wink an eye. TPTB didn’t want Flynn trying to gain control of the White House and commanded Trump to get rid of him.

    Trump is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Before the election he said he was against NATO. Now he is praising NATO and telling us how wonderful it is. He said he like Putin and Russia and we should not have sanctions on them. Now he’s saying the sanctions will stay until Russia gives up Crimea. He said he would slap tariffs on China and Mexico. He Tweeted threats to both countries and he got punked. China nor Mexico gives a hoot about Trump’s threats because if Trump slaps tariffs on their products, China and Mexico will simply slap tarriffs on American products. 1+1=0. We both get nowhere. Or…you’re telling me you haven’t noticed all of Trump’s backtracking? No? Yes? Are you on this planet?

    If Trump was so pro-American jobs at home why does HE manufacture some of HIS products in China, Mexico and Taiwan? If you people can’t see the obvious hypocrisy here then you deserve to be lied to.

    Trump has done nothing but tick people off since he’s gotten into power. He knows it takes teamwork to get anything accomplished in this world, but he’s not seeking it because he is sowing chaos. America doesn’t have the power it once had. Other countries are now bypassing “The Dollar (U.S. Dollar)” in international transactions for things like oil which normally are transacted in dollars. They are trading in their own currencies and trading goods for goods directly. World economies are all inter-related and what hurts one country invariably hurts the other connected ones. BRICS and NATO countries are all interconnected economically and Trump just doesn’t have the power to bully his way into forcing these other sovereign nations into bending to his will.

    Taiwan is NOT a country. Taiwan is a province of China and Trump wanted to think of them as two nations. China told Trump they would have none of that talk and now Trump has backed down and is talking the “One China” policy. Trump seems to be eating his words….turning tail….doing 180’s…backtracking constantly because he has no clue about diplomatic norms are or any understanding of basic economics. He needs to leave all that to his handlers. That’s why his handlers have had to constantly reign Trump in and explain to him the fineries of American foreign policy and Trump has effectively capitulated…even to the point of betraying a member of his own team, Michael Flynn. You saw how quickly Trump betrayed Michael Flynn and you STILL love and trust Trump? Hahahahahaa. You deserve to get screwed by Trump.

    1. NWOH –

      I agree with most of what you wrote.

      I claim ALL National Leaders ARE LIARS..!! 🙂 ONLY liars get (S)elected…!!

      I have been criticized for my views every day.

      The most appalling thing about Trump to date to me… is the fact that he has spent 10 times as much time calling out the media and their fake news…. than he has spent telling us about his meetings with foreign leaders, such as from Japan and Israel. He has spent almost NO time telling us about his plans with any foreign leaders like Putin.

      He has spent no time on explaining his new tax plan.

      The fake news will not stop…. no matter what HE says to them.
      HE IS NOT THEIR BOSS..!!

      Arguing with the media is a “YUGE” distraction. It is very “BIGLY” a distraction.. 🙂

      He should give more time to filling his cabinet… and less on hollering and grandstanding..!!

  25. I am reminded about my complaint to a history teacher that history was idle speculation. How does anyone really know why a general on the eve of such and such a battle decided on a particular tactic. For all we know, his piles might have been playing up that day. (The teacher said that an incident like this was actually known.)

    We have too little data to go on. I like the attitude of REDMOND WALKER. I base this on subjective judgement of the character of Trump as viewed in recent speeches.

    On the other have we have this glaring stupid and aggressive declaration about Crimea. As far as I know this is only talk. The physical actions of economic sanctions, siting missiles and troops near Russia were acts of devils Soros-Obonga. The proof of the pudding will be military actions commanded by Trump. Maintenance of the status quo is not an action.

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