WARNING! — Russia Must not Agree to the Partition of Syria

By FLOPOT

Regarding the following: any reference to the United States or any other Western country should be viewed as bounded within 6 brackets. What follows is a reasoned attempt to prepare some psychological tools of argument just in case Russia really does betray Syria and posters pop up to defend such a betrayal on this site.

West of the Euphrates

“Moscow said it would treat any plane from the US-led coalition
flying WEST of the Euphrates river as a potential target.”

Why not EAST of the Euphrates?
Why is Syria to be defended only on ONE side and not on the other?

I hope the Russian Federation is only referring to operational matters and not to a long-term policy, i.e. a partitioning of Syria. Is Russia preparing our minds for a Syrian Kurdistan?

Russia states it is fighting to defend Syria to prevent it falling to “terrorists” (i.e. Zionist proxies) who will use it as a base to attack Russia. If Israel 2.0 pops up “East of the Euphrates” you can bet it will be another breeding ground for such “terrorists”.

Any acceptance by Russia of a partitioned Syria will contradict its stated aim of its intervention in Syria.

Russia surely knows that these “terrorists” are US mercenaries; just as it surely knows that the Kurdish YPG/SDF forces are similar US proxies. ISIS cleared the way for a Kurdish “Syria-East-of-the-Euphrates”; this is why ISIS always moves when the Kurds show up.

LD:  Note that the Kurds are based EAST of the Euphrates and that the Kurds are supported by the US and Israel. This eastern segment of Syria could split off from Syria and one day become an independent state: Syrian Kurdistan. Both the US and Israel would like to see this partition of Syria. If Russia accedes to the plan, it has effectively betrayed Syria by agreeing to its fragmentation. [LD] 

The elephant in this particular room is always Israel — a pachyderm brandishing a document in its trunk called “Oded Yinon”. Thus any acceptance of a partitioned Syria is de facto a Zionist action. Nothing more needs to be said on this blindingly obvious point.

The real sophists will try to defend any Russian collusion in the partition of Syria with the cry that “Russia could not prevent it! Besides, Russia was only defending its own interests, not Syria’s!”

These arguments would be specious; we should reject them at once.

We can dismiss the second part of that lie by referring the sophist back to Russia’s stated intent, i.e. defending Syria is defending Russia. The first part is far harder to dismiss and that is the door through which a deluge of apologetics for Russia will flood the forums  — if the Russian Federation does indeed endorse partition of Syria.

How to pre-empt the sophistry of the first part? I really don’t know. Russia has potent allies in the region, such as the SAA, Iran and Hezbollah — surely Russia could easily lead these forces to victory over the Zionist headchoppers? I really can’t buy the argument that the Zionists are invincible, not on the field of battle at any rate. Also note that Russia has always fought two steps forward and then one step back, e.g. the partial stand-down order, the recurrent ceasefires. Of course the sophist will then argue that this is all part of a clever propaganda campaign.

Stating that you are only going to defend Syria “West of the Euphrates” — as Russa has done, sounds like a boon to the Kurds; and a piece of sophistry from Russia designed to fool the rest of us.

The nuclear argument also has no place in this debate. if nukes exist, no-one will use them out of fear of retaliation. If nukes don’t exist, then nothing will happen.

So that’s it. My final, final post.

You all know who will defend Russia if Syria is partitioned and I have consistently tried to lay the groundwork for defence against such hasbara nonsense.

And that is what is will be — defending Russia’s role in any partition of Syria will be an act of propaganda on this site, not an example of free debate. It will be an act of downright treachery!

You cannot say no-one tried to warn you.

Adios.

LD: Rest assured, dear Flopot, we have no intention of defending Russia’s role in the partition of Syria if this should ever take place. One or two of our more fanatical Putin supporters will doubtless continue to defend Putin to the last gasp, making excuses for him no matter what he does, but this will not apply to the rest of us. We will defend Putin only as long as he behaves honorably.   
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64 thoughts on “WARNING! — Russia Must not Agree to the Partition of Syria

  1. Israel is thoroughly PO that her Western lackeys, the US, Germany , France and a few others have not completely busted up Syria and turned it into a terrorist hell-hole, with armed thugs in charge, raping, murdering and causing havoc, like the ‘good old days’ of the USSR.
    By now, they ‘Coalition of the Killing’ should already be bombing Tehran for Israel, hiding that behind the War of Terror.

    If Putin was a true friend of Assad and Syria, why did he wait nearly four years and until 300,000 Syrians had been butchered by the Zionist terrorists and much of the nation destroyed from the air by the West before sending help?

  2. Any partition of Syria would undoubtedly be a major blow to Assad and the Syrian people. They will have lost a huge chunk of their territory. For Russia to allow this to happen can only mean an admission of defeat by Russia. It is in Russia’s own interests to keep Syria intact.

    1. Toby I think your remarks are insightful. However Putin does not do foreign policy out of a consideration of what is RIGHT and JUST but rather what is good for HIM.

      What he wants from Syria is a PORT.
      If he can have a port and appease the Americans and Jews then he will do it that way.

      Few people nowadays are as principled as Ms Darkmoon.

      Those of us who believe in RIGHT and WRONG are a dwindling group.
      Nevertheless I do believe in God and that He, ultimately, decides.

      Sumud is Arabic for steadfastness or perseverance.
      Let us all have that quality.

      Fear not the path of the truth because of the lack of people walking on it.

      1. “However Putin does not do foreign policy out of a consideration of what is RIGHT and JUST but rather what is good for HIM.”

        In your highly subjective opinion, that is. (BTW apparently about 86% of the Russian people think he’s doing a good job, and that seems to imply that he works for the people of Russia, not for himself).

        “What he wants from Syria is a PORT. If he can have a port and appease the Americans and Jews then he will do it that way.”

        In your highly subjective opinion, that is. Let’s hope by now that Putin’s learned a lesson about the implacable, insatiable nature of U.S. evil and that he won’t back down, accordingly.

      2. From the Saker site…
        Not to say this necessarily applies to FLOPOT…but I think it important to point out.

        “…I noticed this time again that each time the US tries to bait Russia into some kind of harsh reaction and Russia declines to take the bait, this triggers in immediate surge into the number of comments which vehemently complain that Russia is acting like a pu**y, that Putin is a fake, that he is “in cahoots” with the US and/or Israel and that the Russians are weak or that they have “sold out”. I am getting a sense that we are dealing with paid US PSYOP operatives whose mission is to use the social media to try to put the Kremlin under pressure with these endless accusations of weakness and selling-out. Since I have no interest in rewarding these folks in any way, I mostly send their recriminations where they belong: to the trash]”

        http://thesaker.is/the-latest-escalation-in-syria-what-is-really-going-on/

      3. SW –

        It actually applies more to Saker, himself, by his actions. He moved to USA to be free.

        Saker… a RUSSIAN… lives on Florida’s east coast…. where he can write on his site without ‘Put-On’ interference and censorship. His site would not be allowed to operate even for one day from Russia…

        Saker KNOWS…. President ‘Put-On’ – DICTATOR – would not allow The Saker site to exist so freely in HIS “Empire”…!! So he moved to US where his wife holds citizenship.

        http://cirilizovano.blogspot.hr/2015/11/who-is-saker.html

        ‘Put-On’ is “BIGGLY” tough on little guys..!! 🙂

  3. @ Greg Bacon

    If Putin was a true friend of Assad and Syria, why did he wait nearly four years and until 300,000 Syrians had been butchered by the Zionist terrorists and much of the nation destroyed from the air by the West before sending help?

    Maybe Putin wasn’t ready to make his move before he actually did.
    Even now he may not feel strong enough to take on the US, and he may have to back down under further American provocations. The US is always testing Russia’s mettle, looking for signs of weakness.

    Being a consummate chess master, Putin will only strike when he feels confident enough to win. The first blow will have to be devastating.

    It’s all a question of timing. As a character in King Lear says, “Ripeness is all.”

  4. @Darkmoon

    Many thanks for posting this. I was attempting to pre-empt and to prepare for any talk of Syrian partition — to head-off that propaganda meme at the pass. I wanted to highlight that justifying such an outcome is mere apologia for what would be a Zionist victory and Russian complicity (considering that it contradicts Russia’s stated goals of intervention).

    As always, I hope I’m wrong and that the SAA ride the high road to North East Syria with Russian planes as an escort. I am humbled by Darkmoon’s integrity and even chastened. Victory to the Syrian people 😀

    This is the final, final, final response of Flopot who is no more.

    1. Flopot

      You do wrong to deprive us of your presence. If you feel you have insights to share, why not share them? Anyway, it’s up to you. You will always be welcome as a visitor.

      1. @ Flopot

        For what it is worth, I too hope that you will continue to post your thoughts and opinions on this site. In my opinion, you are a valued part of the Darkmoon mosaic. Godspeed, Flopot.

      2. That’s the thing about darkmoon, Sister. A couple of years ago I left the site thinking never to return, but here I still am

        “just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in!” :>)

    2. @ Flopot

      How many “finals and commas” are you going to use before you confess to yourself that you like it at Darkmoon? Where are you going to go that offers more freedom of expression than Darkmoon? You’ve cried “wolf” too many times to be taken seriously. Looking forward to seeing your next post. 🙂

    3. Firstly, I totally agree with your stance on this.

      I saw this

      https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201706221054867138-us-coalition-syria-plan/

      and reckon it’s a done deal though fervently hope not.
      This is a monumental disaster but I’ll come to that in a minute.
      I hit on an article late last night by a US ex-military guy and though I am pro-Russian, I thought he gave a fair assessment.

      He said Russia is taking casualties, larger numbers than they are letting on.
      Additionally it’s all costing a fortune in munitions and kit and stuff for the Syrians,
      The US military/Rothschilds machine can bleed Russia to death here financially, whilst they profit and just print more money. Keep in mind this Zionist entity/cabal whatever, is rich enough to run and fund ISIS, as well as the entire US military and more.
      Russia is only a country of 140 million and Ukraine has cost billions in support already thanks to these fuckers.
      But the killer reason they want out is the massive US military build with an expanding airbase and a lot of kit now in Syria.
      There is no way to take east of the Euphrates without fighting the US military as well as their proxies, the Kurds the bloody terrorists and you name it.
      Russia will not engage US forces. The reason is they know they would be defeated badly.
      Therefore, they want to leave,
      My criticism would be levelled at the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation which describes itself as amongst other things a mutual security and defence organisation.
      Not one of these countries stood with Russia. The “Stan” countries are smallish, but China has a 2 million strong army. Two million. Do they think they are exempt from the hegemon?
      Yes, making money is fine but the fucking house is on fire
      I believe if China had deployed 2 percent of their army, 40,000 men when Russia went in they could have cleared out Syria of the terrorists fairly quickly before the west could get organised as it is now and, importantly, made a big international statement about fighting terrorism which would have caused the west to think.
      Go easy on Russia. Their men and women stood and fell – don’t you think they are disheartened too?

      Now to the disaster itself.
      Note how when Macron said removing Assad is “not a priority now” the Russian media was full of praise totally missing his point
      I don’t think that’s what he meant at all.

      If partition happens, and now with new territory East of the Euphrates, heavily garrisoned by the US, Israel 2.0 Kurdistan will be able to destroy the remainder of the Syrian State at it’s leisure,
      What Macron really had meant was “It’s not a priority, We’ll get round to in ”

      Mattis said about 10 ten days ago that regime change in Iran is still the aim of the US.
      With Russia gone they can now have a war with Iran. Iran is in extreme peril.

      China could have swung this decisively but chose not to.
      . Assad and Rouhani of course are having none of it and will fight on for the whole territory of Syria.

      So, yes it is betrayal.
      But maybe I have helped those who just want to scream at Mr Putin ( a natural first reaction ) take a broader view.
      You are right to condemn it. It is betrayal. It could become a catastrophe.

      1. @ Zena

        I hit on an article late last night by a US ex-military guy and though I am pro-Russian, I thought he gave a fair assessment.

        He said Russia is taking casualties, larger numbers than they are letting on.

        Can you give a link to this article?

        Thank you.

  5. There seems to be no benefit for Russia whatsoever to allow the Kurds of Syria to declare their own independent state.

    An independent Kurdistan in the Middle East, comprising the Kurdish parts of Syria, Iraq, Iran and Turkey, is the nightmare of all these states concerned, because of the loss of population (together some 35 million people) and territory. If the Syrian Kurds would declare independence, then the Kurds in the other countries might try to join. Turkey would never allow that *). It has the greatest number of people (20 million) and the greatest part of its territory (1/9th) to lose. Turkey would immediately invade an independent Kurdish state in Syria and of course Putin knows that.

    Whatever is the reason for Putin to keep the Euphrates as a defense border, trying – by stealth – to create a Kurdish state is not one of them.

    *) Read more at : World Affairs, Fall 2015 :
    The Trouble with Turkey, Erdogan, ISIS, and the Kurds.
    http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/article/trouble-turkey-erdogan-isis-and-kurds

    1. @ Franklin Ryckaert

      Good points worth considering.

      To add to your comment, the Kurds are not the brightest bulb in the box. They have allied themselves with US/Israel while being surrounded by enemies to what they want to do, Kurdistan. The Kurds apparently do not realize what happens to allies of US/Israel in the Mid-East, destruction for the greater longterm plan. The Kurds are just useful idiots presently.

      Russia is not going to participate in the partitioning of Syria. The “west of the Euphrates” position is wise. Conventional warfare is like eating a watermelon. It is best to slice it instead of attempting to swallow the whole melon. According to Syrian reports, the war west of the Euphrates is about done and the US/NATO/Israel effort is contained except for US/NATO airpower which Russia has just seriously threatened. Once the west of the Euphrates is better stabilized, the Syrians can concentrate on the east of the Euphrates with the help of the Turks, Iraqis, and Iranians. It shouldn’t take long.

      1. Agreed, Ung

        A few months ago I compared a partitioning of Syria to that of Poland in 1939 as part of the cat ‘n mouse game going on between the Soviets and Germany. I’ve since changed my tune due to the better insights of posters such as yourself.

        But even having said that, it would still be a “partition” of sorts in that it won’t mark the end of the US/NATO/Israel presence west of the Euphrates, just another one of those interminable standoffs.

    2. @ Franklin Ryckaert

      There seems to be no benefit for Russia whatsoever to allow the Kurds of Syria to declare their own independent state.

      Hope you’re right about this, Franklin. But the recent comment by “Zena” (above) quotes an article by Sputnik News which seems to indicate that the US is determined to bring about the partition of Syria, with the eastern section (east of the Euphrates) splitting off from the western section. This eastern section is in the Kurdish area.

      https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201706221054867138-us-coalition-syria-plan/

      Flopot may be on to something here. He is right to be concerned. And it doesn’t look too good if Putin decides to throw in the towel and say, “Too bad! We can’t help Assad any more.” As Zena points out in her comment, this would constitute a “betrayal” of Syria.

      It needn’t happen though, and I hope it doesn’t.

  6. ” The Jews are the problem, the Jews are the cause of all the problems in the world.” – Lt Gen Jerry Boykin
    ” And the big Jew has rotted every nation he has wormed into.” – Ezra Pound
    ” F***king Jews…the Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world.” – Mel Gibson

    thought these 3 quotes sum up everything said here !

  7. If I’m jumped by some porch monkeys on the street, I’d take what help I could get, and gladly.
    So I don’t think it quite right to damn Russia at this point. Syria and Assad probably would have fallen already if Russia had not intervened. Half a loaf is better than none.
    The perfect is the enemy of the good, etc, etc.

    And I always figured the cultish PKK/YPG Kurds just want their own state. They seem to only care for their own interests. If America is giving away money and arms why not take it? What makes you think the Kurds will bow to Israel or the USA?

    Russia can handle the Kurds. Look what they did in Chechnya.

  8. Turkey will not allow a Kurdish state on its border. Russia could want something from Turkey.

    1. Robert –

      “Russia could want something from Turkey.”

      Yes…. They are partners in business ventures.

      Turkey is the #2 customer of natural gas from Russia. Germany is #1 for now.

      Also:

      Gazprom begins Turkish Stream pipeline construction
      8 May, 2017

      Russian energy giant Gazprom has begun laying pipes for the Turkish Stream natural gas pipeline off the Russian Black Sea coast, Gazprom CEO Aleksey Miller said Sunday, days after the Sochi meeting between Turkish and Russian leaders.

      “Today, we started the practical implementation of the TurkStream gas pipeline project: pipe-laying within the offshore section. The project has been implemented in strict compliance with the plan,” Miller said in a statement Sunday, adding that “by late 2019, our Turkish and European consumers will have a new, reliable source of Russian gas imports.”

      https://www.rt.com/business/387528-gazprom-turkish-stream-start-construction/

  9. There is some interesting discussion on moonofalabama.org in which details are presented of the Kurds in Syria as opposed to the Kurds in Turkey, Iraq, and Iran among other elements of the situation. The situation is complex and needs extensive study, the Kurdish element is decidedly not the same in each country. I’d say the Kurds in Iraq are stronger than elsewhere, though Kurds in Iran can probably sleep better from a security standpoint. Reading the article “Syria Summary – The End of the War is Now in Sight” with comments is enlightening. The Kurds of the YPG are assessed as throwing away their gains by reaching out to Arabia, a supposedly progressive anarcho-marxist group groveling to medieval Wahabbis. It is pointed out that their position is unsustainable being completely surrounded by hostile forces.

    The real question is the Israeli attempt to salvage a buffer state in western Syria, and how far the US and others wish to go primarily from Jordan in the illegal effort of regime change. The summary states that the US may try to defend escalation near al-Tanf as a defense of ‘principle’, which is patently insane with utterly no benefit and the very real possibility of starting a much bigger war. Strategy is being driven by tactics.

  10. Russia is well aware of Zionists control of the U.S. gov and their desire to shatter the Mideast and establish Israeli control throughout the Mideast. Russia has drawn the line in Syria and will not let Syria become a victim of the Zionists.

  11. Putin is not in Syria to save Christians from US-Israel created ISIS. He is there to make sure that Iran and Hizbullah don’t create permanent military presence in Syria.

    Putin has very close personal relations with Netanyahu and defense minister Avigdor Liberman, a Russian-born fanatic Jew. Since 2016, Netanyahu has met Putin in Moscow five times – more than any other world leader.

    I’m also convinced that organized Jewry’s war against Putin and Trump is nothing but Zionist deception. Both Putin and Trump are Jewish pawns via family ties and close friendly relations with rabbis and Israeli leaders.

    On April 27, 2017, Chicago-born writer, author, and blogger Christopher Jon Bjerknes, who claims his Jewish family roots, posted an article, entitled, The Many Faces of the Putin Snake, in which he claims that Putin’s support for Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, Iran and Taliban is a smokescreen to cover his love for the Zionist entity. In order to prove his point, Bjerknes claims that Putin helped an anti-Muslim Donald Trump to occupy the White House.

    “While positioning himself as the guardian of Muslim nations Syria and Iran, he put rabid Zionist and Muslim basher, Syria and Iran enemy Donald Trump in power in the USA and is worked to elect none other than Muslim-hater Marine Le Pen in France. While hosting parades in Russia to celebrate the bolshevik defeat of “fascism”, he sponsors neo-fascism in Europe and America and is seen as their hero, by design,” he said.

    https://rehmat1.com/2017/06/08/us-author-putin-serves-israel/

    1. “Putin is not in Syria to save Christians from US-Israel created ISIS. He is there to make sure that Iran and Hizbullah don’t create permanent military presence in Syria.”

      Your false dichotomy ipso facto leaves out the most probable reason for Putin’s intervention: He’s simply not going to let the Jew-controlled U.S. government trash any more Mideast countries; especially allies like Syria and Iran; especially when he knows that Russia itself is also on the hit list.

      “On April 27, 2017, Chicago-born writer, author, and blogger Christopher Jon Bjerknes, who claims his Jewish family roots, posted an article, entitled, The Many Faces of the Putin Snake, in which he claims that Putin’s support for Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, Iran and Taliban is a smokescreen to cover his love for the Zionist entity. In order to prove his point, Bjerknes claims that Putin helped an anti-Muslim Donald Trump to occupy the White House.”

      LOL! That’s ridiculous. First, Donald Trump, with his carefully-crafted, popular campaign positions on many issues important to the electorate (which at least seemed plausibly held in good faith at the time), didn’t need “help” from Putin to get himself elected. Second, if anyone helped Donald Trump into the White House it was Obama. (Frankly I’ve come to believe that Obama’s ramping up of tensions with Russia in the fall of 2016 was designed to put Trump in the White House).

      And BTW, who says Trump is “anti-Muslim” (whatever that exactly means)? Frankly I don’t think Trump has his own original ideas, good or bad, right or wrong, on much of anything. Trump is an empty vessel who exists only to take orders from Jews, IMO.

  12. Quite a few of the above posts illustrate my point, it being that for anyone at all to stand up to jew, there will be numerous detractors who will claim that he is working for the jew and will hang onto any pretext, no matter how ridiculous, to support their claim.

    I suppose that on a broader scale, ingrates outnumber those willing to do with little, dogs biting hands that feed them, outraged panhandlers stabbing someone who only gave them couple of bucks, celebrities suing sponsors to get out of a $100 million contract, alcoholics depressed that the glass is not perpetually overflowing and so on.

    Sister Monica, do you use Procter+Gamble shampoo? Then you are just a shiksa because P+G is Jew owned.

    Myself, I think that defeatism and ironclad, immovable suspicion of everything and everybody is Jew’s finest trick, walking cadavers gleefully perusing coffin catalogues.

    1. now i expect that there will be those whose riposte is that i am a stupid, starry eyed Pollyanna who licks every turd in hope of finding nutrients and to some extent this is a valid argument in that i am often willing to be cheated in order to discover the true nature of the swindler, to me, a price worth paying provided i calculated the risk and found it acceptable.

      but in all of this, i am always aware of jew’s basic nature and it is my best guide thru this maze of deformed mirrors and smoke.
      It is that any shabbo goy traitor to his kind will be grudgingly accepted only on the condition of ABSOLUTE OBEDIENCE.
      99.9% is not enough and it will guarantee his ultimate demise and public sacrifice, no matter how many times he stabbed his own people in the back, nor how many of his own kind he murdered and destroyed.

      Nixon is an excellent example and this is why i keep bringing him, Nicklel Grass and Watergate up as the object lesson.
      Jew likewise hates Obama, because he did not deliver 100%, unlike Hillary who did (so far).

      This frame of mind stems from the foundational judaism and it is beaten into them every day, the unyielding requirement of ABSOLUTE OBEDIENCE – no exceptions.
      It is the great lesson of the Destruction of the Amalek (1 Samuel 15:3)

      Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.

      and because Saul failed to kill every single one but spared one rapable virgin and maybe a chicken got away, the Good Ziochristian protestant Lord Yahua decreed an everlasting curse on jew king Saul as a valuable lesson to his chosen vermin, that they reverently recite at each Yom Kippur, eyes upturned into their yarmulkes in ecstasy of mayhem and LAW and it is this very same LAW they apply to their faithful shabbos, to the utmost.

      And for this reason, i, lobro, take it in the opposite direction and say that any shabbo, real, fake or apparent, who deviates an iota from the LAW Of Misery imposed on us goyim, is a potential ally in fight against Jew, a potential convert, just like Brother Nathaniel, if Jesus sees potential salvation in him, so do i, i find him Potentially salvageable.

      Take it as my jew fighter’s manifesto if you will, i will not haughtily toss away a sword which is not a priceless samurai katana.

      1. “now i expect that there will be those whose riposte is that i am a stupid, starry eyed Pollyanna who licks every turd in hope of finding nutrients and to some extent this is a valid argument…”

        But isn’t it just like you to fail to consider that the turd may have some dangerous bacteria and isn’t worth licking, accordingly?

    2. @ Lobro

      Sister Monica, do you use Procter+Gamble shampoo? Then you are just a shiksa because P+G is Jew owned.

      You need to translate this. I don’t have have a clue what you’re getting at. I’ve just written a brief comment to Flopot asking him to hang around and share his insights with us. What has this got to do with using Jewish-owned Proctor & Gable shampoo and being “just a shiska”?

      1. On further reflection, I think I know what you are saying. So there’s no need for you to explain. Don’t bother.

        My views on Donald Trump, as expressed on this website in a brief response to Curmudgeon, happen to be pretty much the same as those of Harold Smith and 95% of the posters on this website. So if I’m using Jewish-owned Proctor & Gamble shampoo, so is almost everyone else on this website apart from yourself. 🙂

        So why pick on me?

      2. misunderstood again … it was just a joke that no one got (and i hoped that you might), namely that even someone as saintly as you can be found to be “jewish owned and aligned” by nitpicking at microscopic level, to illustrate how people will dump heavily on Putin because he didn’t solve world’s problems by the age of 10.

      3. @ Lobro

        OK, fine. So now to add to my troubles I am too stupid to understand jokes. You really make me feel good! 🙂

        BTW, I am an ardent Putin supporter, but my support is conditional. If Putin lets Assad down, that’s bad. I hope he give the Americans in Syria a damn good licking. They deserve it for invading Syria.

        As for Trump, let us all have the freedom of speech on this website to bash your hero if we want. By all means give Trump your unstinted support and admiration. But please, I beg you, do something about your tone of veiled hostility to anyone who fails to see Trump through your eyes.

        I will tell you the truth, as an ex-nun. Whether it is your obscurantist style of writing or some deep-seated pent-up rage against our Jewish Masters, you manage somehow to give the impression that anyone who fails to agree with you is your intellectual and moral inferior. That is something you need to correct. Your interlocutors are not necessarily stupid Untermenschen just because they say, “Sorry, you are wrong about Donald Trump — and time will tell!”

        I am talking about the impression you give, OK? I am not saying you are an arrogant bastard who thinks he’s the cat’s pajamas. You’re probably quite a nice guy. 🙂

      4. @ Sister Monica

        To Lobro: “OK, fine. So now to add to my troubles I am too stupid to understand jokes. You really make me feel good!” 🙂

        If it’s any consolation, Sister, I too interpreted Lobro’s comment to you as a straigthforward ad hominem attack. So you’re not the only one on this site who is apparently guilty of being too stupid to get a joke.

  13. daily update from Moloch’s ass-lickers convention (brought to you from Herzliya, Yishroely): British ex-spy boss says new US world role threat to security
    Just this should be enough, if willing to think a bit

    JERUSALEM: A former head of Britain’s foreign intelligence agency told an Israeli security conference Wednesday that the United States’ declining world role under President Donald Trump is today’s greatest threat.

    it is fitting that the ex-MI6 head, john sawers would deliver his final report to the real masters, crawling toward their throne on knees and elbows, complaining bitterly about a shabbo neglectful to fullfill his prescribed duties to the hilt.

  14. if i keep trying to explain my analytical method for Trump, maybe by Christmas 2020, i might win one convert, worth trying.
    So, now he is commonly called the Orange Clown and i am thinking why not, it’s a starting point.

    Obviously, my appeal to consider a bigger picture, like how does the 1st year of his presidency shape up globally, all sorts of thumbs up from Putin, Lavrov, Dutarte useless to the anti-trump marchers on both sides of the street, the recently referenced display of clothes rending grief at the (search term “Herzliya”) reptilian cabal regarding trump’s steering America away from jew’s World Cop job – just look at the mi6 creep Sawers, yes, he is very concerned with YOUR security, proclaiming it loudly all over the synagogue of Satan – has fallen on perfectly deaf ears – home, sweet delusion.
    Ok, so he is Orange Clown – but who is laughing? Hm, yeah, Dreyfus 😉

    Pretty sure this metaphor will be lost on those weaned on the (((slapstick “humor”))) of Harpo Marx, they won’t have a clue of what i am getting at, viz, that Orange clown is a virtuoso of ineptitude, so brilliant that many outside this forum are waking up to the fact it it may well be intentional, a surgeon who apologizes for amputating the leg of the wrong patient at Mt Sinai hospital then offering to fix his eye with the same scalpel before he tosses it into the dishwasher.

    the toil of Sisyphus …

    1. Lobro –

      When you get YOUR ‘anal-ytical’ excuses and explanations narrowed and focused a bit…

      US Congress “BIGGLY” needs your help.. 🙂

      One of the good guys – CHAIRMAN – wanting to jail Hillary is quitting – JUNE 30 – under duress.

      https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/congressman-chaffetz-says-trump-is-no-better-than-obama/

      Mystery Behind Suicides and Jason Chaffetz Resignation
      Published on May 2, 2017

      Why did four people raided by the agency Jason Cheffetz is trying to shut down kill themselves? Why is he suddenly stepping down?
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCdcPhFgS5E

      ONE REASON:
      Chairman Chaffetz Press Release:
      https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/2017-02-14-JEC-Farenthold-to-Kendall-DOI-OIG-Dan-Love-Investigation.pdf

      1. Trump’s reversals and ‘stone-walling’ and his Justice Department are not helping Congress to…

        “DRAIN THE SWAMP”.. as PROMISED..!!!
        “YUGE” alligators and snakes are growing “BIGGLY”..!!
        🙂

    2. “if i keep trying to explain my analytical method for Trump, maybe by Christmas 2020, i might win one convert, worth trying.”

      So, is it your position that the Jews really wanted Hillary Clinton in the White House, or is it your position that they really wanted Trump, who is masterfully betraying them, and they’re so intellectually inferior to Trump that they just don’t realize how bad he’s screwing them over?

    1. And don’t anybody DARE draw a curious connection between Trump passing highly classified Israeli ISIS intel to Russians (16 May) and the Russians rubbing out al-Baghdadi on 18 May, nothing to see there folks, keep moving.

      You are all strictly enjoined from what Pat calls ANAL-YSIS, lest it mislead the gullible-deplorable into crediting Trump and Putin with something positive, when it is blindingly, absolutely, 100% clear that they work 3 shifts round the clock for Jew.

      1. “And don’t anybody DARE draw a curious connection between Trump passing highly classified Israeli ISIS intel to Russians (16 May) and the Russians rubbing out al-Baghdadi on 18 May, nothing to see there folks, keep moving.”

        I’m sorry, but it’s hard for me to resist when someone dares me to do or not do something, so I’ll take a guess and rain on your parade: What if al-Baghdadi “knew too much”? Now that ISIS seems to be on the verge of defeat, what if team Orange Clown was worried that he could become a serious embarrassment if he were to be captured and start talking? Or maybe they were worried that he would voluntarily “turn himself in” at some point and try to make an embarrassing deal. Maybe the Russians were tricked into doing something that solved a potential problem for team Orange Clown?

      2. don’t worry about raining on my parade, i decided it is washed up anyway, so rain away.

        all i am trying to do at this point is follow your thinking, ie,

        what if team Orange Clown was worried that he could become a serious embarrassment if he were to be captured and start talking

        we do agree that al-baghdadi is a jew, don’t we – if not, let me know, so i can revise once more.

        what i said while my parade was in progress is that because trump is in (secret, inadmissible) reality not at all friendly to israelis (or possibly even jews in toto) and is on the other hand in (again, secret, inadmissible) reality quite sympathetic to Putin’s team, he ended up betraying Israelis by passing highly confidential, classified information that included al-Baghdadi’s whereabouts and plans to Russians who laid a trap to wipe out the top DAESH leadership.
        Bare bones: Trump doesn’t like jews, he likes Putin, thus betrays jews in favor of Russia, Jews feel the pain of betrayal, Russia happy.

        Ok, that was while my parade lasted, before i canceled it due to heavy rain.
        let me see if i can in all honesty switch to your parade, correct me where wrong, still learning ropes of other posters’ parade moves.

        What you are saying (yes?) is the following: Jews and Trump are tight, Trump is bonded to them for life while Vlad Putin is outside, not at all friendly to Jews and thus, neither to Trump.
        So what happens is that Trump has a problem with Mossad agent al-baghdadi (knows too much about trump’s evil) and tricks Russians into wiping him out.

        Which boils down to Mossad (being of the same hive mind that controls Trump, no secrets between them) is out to kill its own jew agent al-baghdadi and they cleverly employ the resources of their sworn enemies, the Russians, to accomplish that goal.
        Ok, got it – or did i? let me know.
        next, let me know how you want me to judge your parade as opposed to my fizzled out one, is yours more straight-forward or more colorful, more fun? Or both …

        of course, there is a parallel, competing parade, whereby Putin is also in on the deal, they are all 3 heads of the same jew hydra, ie, mossad, Trump and Put-ON, so that they all participated in elimination of their valuable asset, brother Shimon al-baghdadi in a form of joyous suicide pact.
        Or something like that, i am sure there is a large and enthusiastic attendance at this parade too, some consider this scenario as the most likely, straight forward and fun.

        whereas mine was simultaneously the most convoluted and the most simplistic and thus held no appeal, so that it had to be abandoned due to widespread lack of interest.
        So let’s strike this out: Trump is with Putin and against Jews, i will henceforth no longer subscribe to this notion as an utter impossibility of no marketing value whatsoever.

      3. “all i am trying to do at this point is follow your thinking, ie,..”

        *snip 500 word essay*

        Silly me; here I thought I was asking a simple, straightforward question. I didn’t mean to burden you by forcing you to delve into the subjects of meteorology, thermodynamics, relativistic mechanics, quantum electrodynamics, string theory, etc.

    1. Admin doesn’t need to explain why it deletes comments, but I will do so this once. I didn’t like your comment because it was a sleazy off-topic comment referring to “tits” and “hooters” and “nipples” and a waitress in a hotel room. A previous comment of yours, also deleted, referred to your penis. If you’re an aficianado of locker room talk, this is not the site for you. Understand?

      1. Toby,
        I respect you for your response. Perhaps my post was “too locker room.” But my response to “Trumpintheswamp ” was intended as a play of words and abbreviationes but in my view was very on topic. People want to blame Jews for all the Worlds problems instead of their own shortcomings. I was simply illustrating that people allow themselves to be manipulated. Tell me. With an educated and informed public, how could the Zionist Jews manipulate us? Our “sheeple” mentality and laziness to educate ourselves is our fault. In my illustration, too locker-room in your opinion, the waitress manipulates the Jew lawyer and takes everything he has. Who is more to blame? Him or her?

      2. I did you a favor by deleting your comment. It wasn’t worth publishing. You are capable of high-quality comments, so let me decide what is unfit for publication on the Darkmoon site, OK? That’s my job.

  15. @ Donaldo Colina

    If case you forgot, we are talking about the partition of Syria, not about tits. I can understand your desire to discuss your penis, but there are ladies on this site and we’d rather not hear about your “member”. Spare us the gory details, OK?

    1. M.B.
      I have never once in all my months of posting referred to “my member.” I was referring to “Orange Man” staring down at “his” Zionist-infected member which he must deal with for the rest of his political life. Its an illustration. Too locker-room? Ok. Guilty as charged. But you insult me. “Save us from the gorry details.” I wont insult you. Im a caballero. I will only say that what I have isnt gorry.

  16. Still, we’re not done yet. Oh no. The US can’t just totally go for it, not yet anyway.

    https://www.halseynews.com/2017/06/20/plays-chicken-russia-syria/

    Quote from above:

    “Both the U.S. and Russia are playing cat and mouse in Syria at the moment. Putin is compiling a list of grievances to take to the U.N. The U.S. is trying to goad the Russians into striking back in such a way that they can play the victim card.

    If Putin can get the U.N. to declare the U.S. the aggressor in any military clash between the two countries it will give Russia the color of international law to then aggressively defend Syria’s interests once the front lines coalesce in the west.

    This means the SAA pushes west from Homs (see map above) and north from Palmyra to shorten the front lines and begin the assault to push the Kurds back and retake the rest of the country.

    At the same time if the SAA encircles Raqqa and establishes control of the road from Raqqa to Deir Ezzor it blocks ISIS’s escape and seals off the southern half of the country from the U.S. and the SDF.

    Moreover, the encirclement move strands the U.S. backed forces at al-Tanf and ensures that in order to link up the two U.S.-backed factions they would have to go through the SAA and reveal themselves as the aggressor in the conflict.

    This would then allow Russia and Iran to retaliate and claim self-defense.”

    Be assured oh Russia doubters !

    Russia will do it’s damndest to stop loss of Syrian territory but please don’t expect it to start shooting at the American Air Force which can summonse up hundreds and hundreds of warplanes and mIssiles inside a few hours. Russia has less than 100 planes in Syria.

  17. Oh, and shortly after that quote above, the same author says . .

    “. . . The extent to which President Trump is involved in any of this is unknown. But, from what I’ve heard he’s left this campaign to Mattis to run.”

    So who’s running US foreign policy and who can Russia reliably deal with in the US ? Nobody.

  18. Russia’s involvement in this war is, first of all, the action needed to protect its own interests. The bases that Russia uses there are important to keep in order to ensure that the Russian fleet in the region has a place to come for maintenance. Thus, these bases are of a strategic value to Russia, since having them allows the Russians to control the entrance to the Black Sea region and not let the NATO to close it.

    Using these bases the Russian fleet can operate in the Mediterranean Sea and taking into account the fact that this base is the last one that Russia has managed not to lose so far, it is not too hard to understand how important it is for the Russians: because losing it means that the Russian fleet can be kept inside the Black Sea waters for as long as the NATO wishes, having full control of the both Gibraltar and the Turkish Straits.

    Speaking of the territories East of the Euphrates, most people there are not on the same side as Assad’s supporters. There is a number of religious groups of which the Alawites, whom represents Assad, is the smallest one. Their natural area of residence is the region of the sea cost, and to keep control of all other territories, West of the Euphrates Assad has to let go the territories East of the Euphrates.

    Russia needs Assad in power as a guarantor: as long as he rules, no one can make Russia abandon its last outpost in the region.

      1. Reply and also answer to Flopot’s initial article:

        True it takes time to gear up and get stuff printed – but this didn’t happen overnight.This build up of US forces has been going on since at least 2015 when they built an airbase.I was very struck at the time by how little Interest was shown by anybody in this.

        Yet all the time this US build up has been quietly going on, an observer could see that as ISIS were being defeated so the US military was coming in to replace them and achieve the goal of occupation.

        I cannot understand the complete media silence on this. Syria has lost a large piece of it’s land and let’s be clear – this isn’t the creation of just a harmless piece of turf for the Kurds to live on. This occupied Syrian territory will be used as a platform for even more mischief against the remainder of Syria and also Iran.

        Answer to Flopot:

        The title of this article implied that if Syria was partitioned it would somehow be Russia’s fault.

        ADMIN: THE TITLE OF THE ARTICLE WAS ADMIN’S. SO IF IT’S THE WRONG TITLE, ADMIN IS TO BLAME. SINCE FLOPOT HASN’T OBJECTED TO THE TITLE, WE ASSUME HE IS HAPPY WITH IT. IF FLOPOT WANS TO CHANGE THE TITLE, HE IS WELCOME.

        Please show us your proposals as to how one gets the US military out of a country it is determined to occupy. I am sure most folk who come here already know this but just to make clear.

        In the Syria region The US can whistle up literally hundreds of aircraft and military forces very quickly. And let’s not forget their NATO allies flying about as well. Syria matters massively to the western cabal because it is on the list of countries to be destroyed leading to Russia, China and their aim of total global “full spectrum dominance”.

        This US presence is not a half hearted thing nor is it “just” a military base but rather, enough muscle to occupy a piece of land the size of a small country.

        Russia has access to nothing like that in terms of military resources having at present some 70 (I believe)planes there. So therefore I am sure that one of your suggestions as to how to get the US out of Syria would NOT be that Russia attack the US military in Syria.

        In fact as I have lamented elsewhere Russia has been left to do all the fighting against Wahhabi terrorism with only Iran and Syria also serious about it.

        Three countries fighting a global terrorist army totally resourced, trained and funded to the tune of billions by a financial elite, and should these mercenary terrorists be defeated on the ground they are totally backed up by the military of the US, NATO, Australia, Canada and Israel.

        Of course it is a shock and the initial reaction can easily be a sense of betrayal especially since the msm and alternative media have been feeding us “Syria is winning” stories from it’s western half and a meme was got going that the Syrians are just rolling on to final victory.

        We hadn’t thought about the bigger picture because we weren’t getting told about it.

        A lot of blame can be cast here at various players – by their absence especially the SCO – but the people who should most certainly NOT be blamed are the brave defenders of freedom in the middle east – Syria, Iran and Russia. In fact they should be exalted for their efforts.

        salami

      2. @ Zena

        Flopot has left this site (I hope temporarily) and therefore may not respond to you personally. Let me assure you on his behalf that there is no way Flopot is blaming Russia, Iran or Syria for any of this. He is merely pointing out that if Syria is partitioned, then Russia will have failed to keep Syria intact. Like all of us, he is hoping that Syria is NOT partitioned — and that Russia is strong enough and determined enough to prevent this breaking up of Syria.

    1. ZENA –

      Why??? Because alt-media likes scary movies with big-ass explosions… NOT plain old occupations and remodeling and banking stuff..!! They need eyeballs..!! 🙂

      ‘Put-On’ wants it that way. He called for it..!!

      Prezzy ‘Put-On’ IS the United Nations’ MAN.. He said so..!!

      See:

      “Today it is the United Nations that continues to remain an agency that is unparalleled in representativeness and universality, a unique venue for equitable dialogue. Its universal rules are necessary for including as many countries as possible in economic and humanitarian integration, guaranteeing their political responsibility and working to coordinate their actions while also preserving their sovereignty and development models.”

      Paving the way for a ‘viable’ stock exchange and usury-based-sharia banking system….
      …Putin is now open to the idea that a – USA – federal model could apply to Syria.

      Putin has so much respect and admiration for the US that he uses US words and PLANS as an example to explain his desires a few months ago – at VALDAI..!! 🙂

      “Colossal damage requires a long-term and all-round program, a kind of the Marshall Plan to revive this war- and conflict-torn region.”

      Putin urges a NEW Marshall Plan for Middle East to see recovery and growth..!!

      SOCHI, October 27. /TASS/. The Middle East needs a present-day edition of the Marshall Plan to see recovery and growth, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday.

      “It has been said more than once that this evil [terrorism] can be defeated only through polled effort of all world countries. Russia has offered that and is offering it to all of its partners,” Putin said at a meeting of the Valdai international discussion club.
      “Colossal damage requires a long-term and all-round program, a kind of the Marshall Plan to revive this war- and conflict-torn region.”

      http://tass.com/politics/909103/

      Putin praised Trump and UN Agenda-21 on November 16, 2016:

      “We are ready to do everything to bring back Russian-US relations on a sustainable development path. This would benefit both the Russian and the US people and would positively impact the overall climate in global affairs, given the particular responsibilities of Russia and the US in maintaining global stability and security,” Putin said.

      http://www.sputniknews.com/politics/201611091047237528-putin-trump-victory/

      ‘Put-On’ loves the US…!!

      Putin admits HE NEEDS US in today’s world

      June 17, 2016

      The Russian president admitted the world needs such a powerful country as the United States but Moscow does not want Washington to meddle in domestic affairs.

      ST.PETERSBURG, June 17. /TASS/. The world needs such a powerful country as the United States but Moscow does not want Washington to meddle in domestic affairs and prevent the European Union to build relations with Moscow, Russian President Vladimir Putin told a plenary session of the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum.

      “The world needs such a powerful country as the United States. ** And we also need it. But we don’t need them to constantly interfere in our affairs and tell us how to live and prevent Europe to build relations with us,” Putin said.

      http://tass.ru/en/politics/883026

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