Facebook Boss: ‘Holocaust Deniers should be allowed to spout their nonsense!’ — Deborah Lipstadt: ‘No, they shouldn’t!’

LD:  There are two articles here. The second is more interesting and should not be missed. This is Deborah Lipstadt’s angry rebuttal of the view put by Facebook boss, Mark Zuckerberg, that Holocaust deniers should not be denied a limited platform for their views—views that, although offensive and obviously ridiculous, are sincerely held  by a bunch of honest crackpots who like to call themselves “Holocaust revisionists” rather than “Holocaust deniers”.  Lipstadt takes a sterner view. Anyone who denies the Holocaust, she believes, is a dangerous criminal who would like to see all Jews exterminated. The only way to treat such malefactors, she argues, is with zero tolerance. 

ARTICLE 1 : 

“Holocaust deniers are deeply offensive . . . “

” . . . but I don’t think they’re intentionally getting it wrong.”

Facebook will continue to offer a platform to Holocaust deniers, Infowars, and other publishers of hoaxes on the assumption that they are sincere in their beliefs, CEO Mark Zuckerberg said.

Speaking to Recode’s Kara Swisher on her podcast, Zuckerberg, who is Jewish, said that Holocaust deniers are “deeply offensive.” “But at the end of the day, I don’t believe that our platform should take that down because I think there are things that different people get wrong,” Zuckerberg continued. “I don’t think that they’re intentionally getting it wrong.”

Swisher said that, in fact, Holocaust deniers likely were intentionally misleading people. Zuckerberg said that Facebook could not understand the intent of those publishers and would not try:

It’s hard to impugn intent and to understand the intent. I just think, as abhorrent as some of those examples are, I think the reality is also that I get things wrong when I speak publicly. I’m sure you do. I’m sure a lot of leaders and public figures we respect do too, and I just don’t think that it is the right thing to say, “We’re going to take someone off the platform if they get things wrong, even multiple times.”

What we will do is we’ll say, “Okay, you have your page, and if you’re not trying to organize harm against someone, or attacking someone, then you can put up that content on your page, even if people might disagree with it or find it offensive.” But that doesn’t mean that we have a responsibility to make it widely distributed in News Feed.

This is not a new position. Facebook has been defending the rights of Holocaust deniers since at least 2009 when it faced criticism for hosting a variety of anti-Semitic pages. At the time, a spokesman said, “We want [Facebook] to be a place where people can discuss all kinds of ideas, including controversial ones.”

Zuckerberg’s comments on the podcast came a day after a hearing in which his global head of policy management was called before Congress to explain its content moderation policies. While the hearing was originally intended to investigate the false idea that tech platforms systematically suppress conservative viewpoints, it ended with a bipartisan group of lawmakers pressuring Facebook to ban more accounts, including Infowars.

Last week, CNN’s Oliver Darcy questioned how Facebook could be sincere in its stated efforts to reduce the spread of false news stories while it also offered sites like Infowars a place to develop a large following and routinely distribute hoaxes.

Zuckerberg said one of Facebook’s core principles is “giving people a voice,” and it preferred to limit the distribution of hoaxes rather than ban them outright.

There are really two core principles at play here. There’s giving people a voice, so that people can express their opinions. Then, there’s keeping the community safe, which I think is really important. We’re not gonna let people plan violence or attack each other or do bad things. Within this, those principles have real trade-offs and real tug on each other. In this case, we feel like our responsibility is to prevent hoaxes from going viral and being widely distributed.

The approach that we’ve taken to false news is not to say, you can’t say something wrong on the internet. I think that that would be too extreme. Everyone gets things wrong, and if we were taking down people’s accounts when they got a few things wrong, then that would be a hard world for giving people a voice and saying that you care about that. But at the same time, I think that we have a responsibility to, when you look at… if you look at the top hundred things that are going viral or getting distribution on Facebook within any given day, I do think we have a responsibility to make sure that those aren’t hoaxes and blatant misinformation.

Infowars, which has nearly 1 million followers on Facebook, routinely denies the reality of mass shootings and promotes the idea that the FBI and other institutions are plotting to overthrow President Donald Trump. In 2016, Mother Jones found seven cases in which Infowars fans had committed acts of violence.

Update, 4:43 p.m.: Zuckerberg sought to clarify his remarks with an email to Swisher later in the day:

I enjoyed our conversation yesterday, but there’s one thing I want to clear up. I personally find Holocaust denial deeply offensive, and I absolutely didn’t intend to defend the intent of people who deny that.

Our goal with fake news is not to prevent anyone from saying something untrue — but to stop fake news and misinformation spreading across our services. If something is spreading and is rated false by fact checkers, it would lose the vast majority of its distribution in News Feed. And of course if a post crossed line into advocating for violence or hate against a particular group, it would be removed. These issues are very challenging but I believe that often the best way to fight offensive bad speech is with good speech.


ARTICLE  2

Deborah Lipstadt: Holocaust Deniers Should be Censored and Punished

LD:  Holocaust denial should be banned, Lipstadt believes,  because denying the Holocaust sends the wrong message. It suggests that all the eyewitnesses and survivors are lying, which of course is just not possible. And why on earth would Germany admit its guilt and pay compensation to survivors if the Holocaust never happened? 

DEBORAH  LIPSTADT

Holocaust deniers are bad people

Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook’s CEO, recently described Holocaust denial as people who have simply gotten things “wrong” but not “intentionally” wrong. After all, he insisted, “I [also] get things wrong.” He will not remove their posts from Facebook, “if they get things wrong, even multiple times.” In the same interview, he points out that he himself is Jewish and he will not ban Holocaust deniers, just as he has not banned the conspiracy site InfoWars.

While Zuckerberg later clarified that he “personally” finds denial “deeply offensive,” regarding deniers, he has gotten things about history’s best documented genocide wrong, very wrong.

What Zuckerberg fails to understand — even though he claims this was not his aim — is that by saying deniers aren’t “intentionally” getting things wrong, he leaves open the possibility that they could be right. For someone with Zuckerberg’s massive profile and platform, this is breathtakingly irresponsible. Holocaust denial relies on such a robust set of illogical untruths that it is only possible to be a denier on purpose.

For deniers to be right, who would have to be wrong? Survivors would have to be wrong — as well as bystanders, those non-Jews who lived in the cities and villages in eastern and western Europe and watched their Jewish neighbors being marched away to be shot and killed in freshly dug ditches in the woods. The scores of historians who have studied the Holocaust since 1945 would either have to be part of a massive conspiracy or have been completely duped.

But, above all, the perpetrators, some of whom have admitted their guilt, would have to be wrong. How can deniers explain that in not one war-crimes trial since the end of World War II has a perpetrator of any nationality denied that these events occurred? They may have said, “I was forced to kill,” but not one asserted that the killing did not happen.

Finally, why has Germany shouldered the enormous moral and financial responsibility for the crimes committed in the Holocaust, if it did not happen? According to deniers, there is a simple answer to this question: German officials were forced into a false admission of guilt by “the Jews,” who threatened to prevent Germany’s reentry into the family of nations.

But this, too, makes little sense. German leaders knew that admitting to genocide would impose upon the nation a horrific legacy that would become an integral part of its national identity. Why would a country take on such a historical burden if it was innocent, under any circumstances? Moreover, it’s now been 70 years since the end of the war and Germany is now a global political and economic leader. It could easily say now that “it’s not true; the Jews made us say this back in 1945.” Instead, the German government created a massive memorial in Berlin to the murdered Jews of Europe that opened in 2005.

Deniers rely on yet another bit of illogic. Often they demand to be shown Hitler’s written order authorizing the murder of all of Europe’s Jews. In all likelihood, there is none. Hitler realized the folly of affixing his signature to such an order, which, had it become public, might have caused him many problems. More important, historians are untroubled by the absence of such a document. They never rest their conclusions on one document, particularly in this instance, when there is a vast cache of evidence attesting to a government-directed program of mass annihilation. Deniers, of course, insist that “the Jews” have forged these documents. But if that were the case, why didn’t they also forge the Hitler order?

The list of illogical arguments goes on.

Deniers contend that had the Third Reich, a regime they describe as the epitome of efficiency and power, wished to murder all the Jews, it would have ensured that no witnesses remained alive to testify about the death camps. Therefore, the fact that there were survivors alive at the war’s end constitutes proof that there was no genocide and that the survivors’ testimonies are lies. The fallacious nature of this argument is self-evident. The Third Reich was also intent on winning the war, which it did not do. Therefore, the assumption that the Third Reich succeeded at all it set out to do is false. Anything based on that premise is equally false.

 Deniers are a new type of neo-Nazi. Unlike previous generations of neo-Nazis — people who celebrated Hitler’s birthday, sported SS-like uniforms, and hung swastikas at meetings where they would give the Sieg Heil salute — this cohort eschews all that. Wolves in sheep’s clothing, they don’t bother with the physical trappings of Nazism — salutes, songs, and banners — but proclaim themselves “revisionists” — serious scholars who simply wished to correct “mistakes” in the historical record. This is extremism posing as rational discourse.

His statements suggest that Zuckerberg has been duped by them into thinking that they’re any different than someone who proudly wears a swastika.

People generally differentiate between facts and opinions — as the saying goes, you can have your own opinions, but not your own facts. But in the case of deniers, there are facts, opinions, and lies. In 2000, when I was on trial in London for libel, having been sued by David Irving — then one of the world’s leading Holocaust deniers — for having called him a denier in one of my books, my defense team tracked all of his “proofs” back to their sources and found that imbedded in each of his historical claims was a falsification, invention, distortion, change of date, or some other form of untruth. Once these lies were exposed, his arguments collapsed.

Holocaust denial is not about history. A form of antisemitism, it’s about attacking, discrediting, and demonizing Jews. The deniers’ claims — that the Jews planted evidence, got German prisoners of war to falsely admit to crimes, and forced post-war Germany to shoulder a tremendous financial and moral burden — are predicated on the notion of the mythical power of the Jews, which was extensive enough to realize this vast conspiracy. These assertions rely on classic antisemitic tropes, some of which are over 2,000 years old.

Deniers, who today clearly feel more emboldened than ever before, are not the equivalents of flat-earth theorists, nor are they just plain loonies. As a person who created and provides a platform for the dissemination of information on an awesome scale, Zuckerberg must recognize that theirs is not a cognitive error or a regrettable misinterpretation or failure in judgment that can be rectified by showing them documentation or evidence.

They are white supremacists and antisemites. Their agenda is to reinforce and spread the very hatred that produced the Holocaust.

HOLOCAUST REVISIONISM IS NO JOKE

(So why is she smiling?)

45 thoughts to “Facebook Boss: ‘Holocaust Deniers should be allowed to spout their nonsense!’ — Deborah Lipstadt: ‘No, they shouldn’t!’”

  1. … preferred to limit the distribution of hoaxes rather than ban them outright.

    Limit distribution means information search engines will provide no reference. Given that all communications are snooped on and people jailed and lives ruined for their thoughts, this means only if someone were to write down an interesting URL correctly on a piece of paper and hand it to you, and then you transcribed the URL into your browser correctly, then and only then would their be no “ban”.

    Zuckerberg is obviously a fan of Monty Python extremely absurd sketches.

    1. Zuckerberg,
      Aaaaaaahhhhh….yes. Absolutely no fashion sense. A billionaire wearing $10.00 Walmart brand t-shirts. Definitely not to be trusted. 🙂

  2. May I ask what “holocaust” does he have in mind? The 6 million Jews, alleged victims of Auschwitz where no Jew died because the concentration camp for Jews was several kilometers away in Brzezinka and according to official publications, for instance of the Museum of Auschwitz, less than 1 (one) million Jews died there during WW2? Perhaps Zuckerberg has in mind holocaust of Poles, because just before WW2 there were 35 million Poles in Poland and just after the war only 20 million Poles stayed alive, so 15 million have vanished. Given that there were 3,5 million Jews in Poland before WW2 (from this number most Jews left Poland before WW2), there are still 11,5 million of Poles murdered both by Germans and their Jewish Bolshevik confederates of USSR during WW2.

  3. Oh. Some Germans admitted their ‘guilt’, did they?
    If someone were to crush your balls or to threaten rape/torture to loved ones Ms. Lipshitz, a person might say da**ed near anything at all.
    But you got one thing right, admitting to efforts to genocide would indeed impose upon a nation a horrific legacy.
    I think most everyone will soon know who have been, and are, the masters at genocide. And perhaps the civilized nations of the world will find a promised land for them, an island for instance, where they can be humanely and permanently separated from the rest of the world.

    1. it was my honest searching for “the vast cache of evidence”
      that opened my eyes to this fraud in the first place.

  4. What bothers me the most is not the comments of Lipstadt. Such people will always be with us. My ire is directed at those “bipartisan group of lawmakers” who pressured “Facebook to ban more accounts.” Aren’t those elected officials supposed to be defenders of the First Amendment, not the voice of one particularly powerful pressure group that wants no debate on their pet issue, which has served them so well over the years?

  5. It’s all part of the NEW INQUISITION:_

    THE HOLOCAUST
    ISRAEL’S EXPANSION
    AMERICA FIGHTING WARS FOR ISRAEL
    MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING
    LGBT
    IMMIGRATION

    If you disagree with the official line you’re in trouble.

  6. zuckerberg is just doing damage control. they’ll listen for a while to what the revisionists have to say about it, because they need to keep abreast of the subject… if people aren’t talking on his site they’ll be talking on someone else’s, which will give him less control…
    alex jones? that shill? he’s handling the perimeter…
    ms. lipstadt is as FOS as every other brainwashed jew. and i wonder how much compensation money she gets?
    “It suggests that all the eyewitnesses and survivors are lying, which of course is just not possible.
    right, there’s no such things as BIG LIES.
    And why on earth would Germany admit its guilt and pay compensation to survivors if the Holocaust never happened?”
    uh, maybe because germany was badly defeated in ww2, totally wrecked without any real germans in authority over its immediate future, and had NO CHOICE but to do what its conquerors wanted?
    “Holocaust denial relies on such a robust set of illogical untruths that it is only possible to be a denier on purpose.”
    ILLOGICAL TRUTHS? does she mean like this statement from E-LIE WIESEL – “some things are true that never happened”…
    https://www.eliewieseltattoo.com/elie-admits-his-true-stories-never-happened/
    of course, everybody who questions the jewish media’s holocaust narrative has to be a white supremacist, only doing it because he hates jews… never mind the nazi method the jews use – jailing professors and writers for questioning the bullshit…
    there’s a volume of dissonant information out there now. everybody who’s looked at it can see clearly the holocaust is an overhyped jewish media myth. it serves as the excuse for ashkenazi aggression in palestine, a mythical theme to equal the current crime… and absolute belief in the holocaust is mandatory in jewish circles – holocaustianity, no questions asked…
    https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v21/v21n3p24_weber.html

  7. Slander is when you don’t care whether the allegation you are making about someone is true. You are just making an allegation that you know will hurt a person, and the truth of the matter doesn’t matter to you. Slander does not apply to Holocaust revisionism. It is a sincere and reasoned belief that the Holocaust was not a real event. The people making this allegation wouldn’t make it if they didn’t think it were true.

    The basic idea of free speech in America is that it is a right given to the human individual by God which is recognized and protected by American law.

    Holocaust revisionism is an extremely clear case of American free speech.

  8. What Lipshit doesn’t mention is a certain Kaufman and Morganthaw (sp) wanted to exterminate the German people and turn Germany into a cow pasture. What she doesn’t realize all her so-called logic and reasoning is based on a false premise. Maybe she should read “Hellstrom” by Thomas Goodrich to get a more balanced take on WW2 and after. “Hellstrom” and “The Summer of 1945” also by Goodrich put the kabash to the so-called “Greatest Generation”

  9. Libstadt’s statement to the effect that the evidence supporting Holocaust revisionism is so flimsy that only a person who hated Jews could give it credence is so far off the mark as to make me wonder. It is a matter of objective reality that the evidence supporting Holocaust revisionism is extremely sound. Could Libstadt not know this? Is she saying that this is a belief requirement for Jews? Is she saying that this ought to be a belief requirement for everyone? God knows!

  10. I am an anti-Semite and I am proud to be such. Nevertheless, if I did not think Holocaust revisionism were not true, I would not subscribe to it. Does Libstadt not know that Holocaust revisionism is the truth? I think she knows this very well. I think she is speaking from a totalitarian perspective. I think she is talking about what people (slaves) should be required to believe. Truth means nothing to these people, in my opinion. Truth, to them, means what they can force people to believe, in my opinion. That is mainly why I oppose them.

  11. Michael Hoffman (Judaism Discovered) showed so clearly the template for Talmudic “disputes” and, situationally appropriate, politically correct choices — call the extreme portions of the two poles what you wish (names quickly suggested for your consideration). IMO, Hegelian dialectic in play for an off-broadway play to see how the outliers distribute on a KNOWN skewed probability distribution. Question: Who’s who at the zoo on the tails? More simply, I judge the issue raised as an experimental psy-ops, the internet reactions measured, parsed,and assessed for the next experiment.

    Comments welcome along this line of thought about the posts.

    1. @Alan Donelson

      I wish you would speak in plain English. As for Hegel, I think he is a charlatan.

      1. He’s saying that Zuckerberg doesn’t give a s**t about free speech. Zuckerberg’s role was to play the part of an introduction to the main act, i.e. those calling for restrictions on free speech. It is not really “Hegelian” because there is no thesis/anti-thesis here…there is just a fake problem, “Holocaust Denial”, which needs a “solution”, i.e. censorship. Same old scam: fake an event or a conflict so that you can get what you really want.

        Hegelian dialectical bollocks calls for a “resolution”, a problem-solving answer to two conflicting arguments (the thesis and anti-thesis”) which gets us the synthesis…but I agree with you that it seems a rather complicated way of stating the obvious. That’s as far as my understanding of Hegel goes, i.e. kindergarden level. However the Edward Bernays school of propaganda techniques (basically faking an event to justify your later actions) is not even a false-dialectic because there is no “resolution”, just one side of the fake-debate wins. It is a Zero-Sum charade.

        I don’t even know what I’m talking about now 😛

  12. ad – for all anybody knows this site is about trolling for radicals, whatever, for various reasons…
    and the time may came when things said freely here will be used against commentators after the rules of speech have been changed…
    if the jews like the above ever have their way, holocaust deniers or revisionists will be given the firing squad, or stuck in a swiss model ox-dep cell until they get their minds right…

      1. KB,
        You may have every right to be scared to death. If a Mao like psychopath gets his hands on the levers of power in America and/or Western Europe, this and any other info will be used for population reduction, big time. The Western world has become fractured just as China was fractured between the commies and the nationalists leading to the rise of Mao. Mao was a inhuman monster, most likely the worse in all human history. As mentioned, if a Mao like clone who doesn’t give a shit about right or left, Marxist commie or otherwise or anything in between, gets into power, it will be Katie bar the door. If anyone thinks it can’t happen in the West or anywhere else for that matter in this day and age, think again. The true psychopath is in it only for him or her self. Any convenient Ideology is only a prop for that end.

    1. i think about these things every time I post,
      but wtf, my card is well marked now, and there’s nothing I can do about it
      I don’t have them living in my head anymore,
      and I have a whole portion of brain un atrophied.
      I stand on the promise that I shall know the truth and the truth will set me free,
      it has.
      beyond neck shots, prison bars and pain for a while, there is nothing can touch me
      nor anyone else that stands in Truth.

  13. ADMIN: Comment rescued from Spam. No idea why it went in there…

    Anyone who denies the Holocaust, she believes, is a dangerous criminal who would like to see all Jews exterminated.

    Okay! Okay! Debbie ya’ got me here, least part way. While I’m no dangerous criminal, I would like to see all Jews exterminated. Hey we can dream can’t we? Or is anti-semitic dreaming now illegal in these Jewnited Snakes of ‘merica?

    For deniers to be right, who would have to be wrong? Survivors would have to be wrong

    To be wrong is to be mistaken. Holocaust “eyewitnesses” are not wrong, they have made no mistake; they are intentional liars. In fact, the lying has become so bad there are even goyim trying to pass themselves off as Jewish holocaust survivors.

    as the saying goes, you can have your own opinions, but not your own facts.

    Fact: Germans had concentration camps
    Fact Jews were incarcerated in those camps as enemies of the state in the very same manner Japanese were incarcerated in America as enemies of the state.
    Fact: Jews, along with many non-Jews, died in those camps of various identifiable causes like malnutrition, typhus and other diseases.
    Fact: Nowhere has a single victim of gassing been positively identified anywhere in any of the German camps.
    Fact: In the 1960s, Jews claimed the German people were all guilty of the Holocaust because German “death camps” like Dachau were located in their “backyards.”
    Fact: After many years of maintaining this story, Jews quietly changed the entire venue of their “death camp” story, shifting the locations of the “death camps” inside communist Polish territory.
    Fact: There are Jews who still maintain Dachau was a “death camp” even though this story has been officially denied by Jewish authorities.
    Fact: Jews never offered any explanation for this major change in the story, nor have they explained how it could have happened they were so badly mistaken in their initial claims.

    Finally, why has Germany shouldered the enormous moral and financial responsibility for the crimes committed in the Holocaust, if it did not happen?

    Maybe its because Jews won the war and forced the Germans to pay them reparations under military duress in the same manner as they did with the Versailles treaty after WWI. Or was the Versailles treaty just another denier fantasy? How can anyone be stupid enough to entertain the Jew’s whitewashing bullshit?

    Deniers rely on yet another bit of illogic. Often they demand to be shown Hitler’s written order authorizing the murder of all of Europe’s Jews. In all likelihood, there is none. Hitler realized the folly of affixing his signature to such an order, which, had it become public, might have caused him many problems.

    Demanding written orders from a military leader regarding a military situation is illogical? Where-oh-where is that Jew Mr. Spock now? Lets see now, since the Germans had no need for written orders, the rank and file German soldiers, like say Captain Mengele, must have taken it upon themselves to “holocaust” the Jews eh? That’s logical isn’t it? Especially considering it was Germans doing this dastardly deed. Yes, those hidebound Germans with their slavish penchant for detailed orders of such an intensity, it became a standing joke even before the war. Is it logical to think Germans ~ GERMANS! ~ would conduct an entire military campaign with no orders to do so? Really? All right then, name one ~ one ~ other military campaign conducted anywhere, by anyone, in Europe from 1933 to 1945 with no orders issued for its execution; or were Jews really just that special? And why wouldn’t Hitler be terrified at affixing his signature to such an order? Knowing even before the war began, he would lose, he just took the proper precautions by leaving no trace of orders, let alone those with his signature. Yeah, that sounds logical all right. In all likelihood, “there is none?” Gorsh Debbie, ya think?

    “are predicated on the notion of the mythical power of the Jews, which was extensive enough to realize this vast conspiracy.”

    So then dear Debbie how do you explain the fact that the central banks that issue the American dollar, under the auspices of the treasury department’s front, are all Jewish owned, meaning Jews do in fact have total control over America’s debt and finances. Are you aware dear Debbie this was exactly the case in post WWI Germany that brought Hitler to power?

    Perhaps you remember Nathan Rothschild’s criminal financial machination that allowed your Jewish brethren to buy up the English stock market along with the Bank of England more than two hundred years ago, or that of late Jews now admit controlling the American media. “Vast conspiracy” my dying ass, termites don’t “conspire,” parasite don’t “conspire” and Jews don’t have to conspire because they have a genetically directed hive mind, instilled by thousands of years of psychopathic, murderous, sacrificial bloodlust. They all focus towards those goals that benefit their hive and do so without openly communicating their intent.

    Say, isn’t that exactly what the Jews claim Hitler did with the Hallowedhoax? Have not Jews claimed the entire Hallowedhoax was a “whispered campaign?” Can you say “Jewish character projection” boys and girls? Are the stupid, gullible goyim ever going to tire of having Jews dictate what they can and cannot think and say? Isn’t it about time for goyim to rise up once again and shut the Jews’ mouths – permanently?

  14. It’s unproductive to get too fired-up about someone else’s conclusions about something that MAYBE did/didn’t happen decades ago. What if it did? What if it didn’t? How would either conclusion make any of our lives different, right NOW?? The best way to negate the damage is to simply IGNORE all “Holocaust” (hoax) hoopla. Don’t go to the “museums”. Exclude yourself from arguments about it. There’s nothing we can do to erase the damage suffered by the German people – including martyrdom for the cause of historic correction. Don’t perpetuate the argument. Ignore it.

    1. “There’s nothing we can do to erase the damage suffered by the German people…”
      Actually, there’s a lot that CAN be done to allow for healing . . .
      Only the truth (and nothing less) will make us free.

      “How would either conclusion make any of our lives different, right NOW??”
      It’s the difference between freedom (in its true meaning) and enslavement.
      You can’t just IGNORE the shackles – nor is it good advice to do so . . .

    2. What about “productivity”. Are you kiddin? Who do you suppose is goin through the “Tribulation” NOW, hmmm, If not people like Monika Schaefer who don’t know HOW to ignore it?

      There’s no MAYBE about it. Didn’t happen That’s the truth! And the TRUTH is ALWAYS productive

    3. Excusez-moi! How do you suggest ignoring the poison gaz Jews have been gazzing the world with since the end of WWII? Perhaps you have just grown used to the smell.

      “Jeeezuz Manny! Was that you passing Hallowedhoax gaz?”
      “Yep, I’m testing a scene for my new movie, ‘The denier who thinks our Holocaust stinks.'”

      Worse, (((they))) are ramping up the insanity with each passing day, whipping their sacred mythical Hallowedhoax into a frenzied scream. And you know what they say – “screams goith before, during, but never after, a fall.”

      “Noah! Noah! Noah! Ya’ jes’ gotta believe! I tells ya St. Elie had a vision! It wuz jest before his seventh execution – geysers of blood, colored smoke, bars of soap, it was all reet there in his vision. Why thet St. Elie was just like thet there Saul in the Bible, he had a vision and presto! Before ya knew it, it became law.”

  15. arch – good observations… they really have no argument.. it’s just fundamentalist lunacy… then there’s the reparations money…
    i would stop short of recommending extermination though…
    KB – seriously darling?

  16. America fought against Schicklgruber in WWII. He’s the Goldstein from 1984 by the way.
    Did you know there are about 6 Million in America?

    See, God does have a sense of humor.

    1. America has been used as GOLEM (GOYLEM) for the Jews to fight their Zionist wars (two world wars in order to get Palestine to create a Jewish state Israel) The GoldmanSUCKS and Goldsteins from ‘1984’ are the Zionist Jews and their “Jew World Order”.
      Hitler was duped by them but he was not their stooge. You have it wrong “Dr Doom”

      1. You are obviously unfamiliar with The Legend of Golem. Frankenstein by Mary Shelley was a tale of revenge. The movies are more like The Legend of the Golem. It amazes me the level of sheer ignorance that is passed as “sophistication” and “education” nowadays. Due to “Public Education”, it seems most “educated” folks nowadays seem less informed and erudite than itinerant peasants in the Middles Ages. Even they would at least have known such famous legends better.

    2. Dr. Doom the hasbara shekel-troll:

      Tell your superiors to give you some better material.

      The goyim are not so easily fooled here.

      1. CIA is busy I see. Such lousy disinfo. What kind of cheap rabble are they that send such lowly and cheap insults to try and stop the Truth? Uncle Shammy must be running low on monopoly money. You and your cheap insults are hardly the kind of criticism that would be worth it if they were hiring skilled underlings.

  17. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYk0y9HlTdc
    A legendary clay man brought to life by a Jewish magician . . .

    Don’t you think the Jooish magicians of Joomerica use the “Goyim” military and might as their “Golem”? Of course they do!

    . . . and it’ll be those with honest hearts (‘inner child’) who will take away the Golem’s destructive force

    What is it you can’t understand?

  18. I’m no Holocaust denier!

    I don’t deny any of the Holocausts Jew supremacists are responsible for.

    1. Some example of real destruction by fire…

      Dresden
      London
      Hiroshima
      Nagasaki
      Much of Vietnam
      Mt Carmel – Waco – just 2+ decades ago
      Baghdad
      On & on…

      1. https://de.metapedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gomorrha
        July 1943, Royal Air Force firebombed Hamburg called “Gomorrha” where all the “evil Nazis” lived – nobody deemed innocent – all guilty to die in the most horrible way
        Any such scenes in London too?

        The point I’m making is: Attacking defenseless civilians is NEVER EVER justifiable.
        Certainly no “heroic deeds” but the worst cowardice imaginable.

        Just imagine – without the Jewish Zionist interference – Rotschild-Balfour Deal (1916, signed in 1917) to bring the United States into the war on Britain’s side to defeat Germany and to get Palestine in return – there could have been PEACE in Europe – as early as 1916! … and a completely different history could have ensued (no WW II etc)

  19. Yes, Ms. Lipstadt is smiling because she has forgotten what really happened during the “Holocaust” which is, in fact, “The Jewish Fable of the Twentieth Century”. (A play on words of “The Hoax of the Twentieth Century” by Mr. Arthur Butz.) However, she has not yet forgotten the many “Jewish fables” as told by the “Holocaust survivors”. That’s why she is smiling.

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