As conflict in Syria between Israel and Iran threatens to spiral into WWIII, the big question we need to ask is: “Who started it?”
By DARKMOON COMMENTERS
IF THERE’S A BIG, BIG WAR ON ITS WAY
WE’LL KNOW WHO STARTED IT
LD : I apologize to contributors whose comments have not been included here. We have had to select for publication only the on-topic comments relevant to the question, “Who started it?” and have had to omit all other comments, however brilliant and perceptive, that had no bearing on this central issue. Needless to say, the Darkmoon commentariat is now in the forefront of the AltRight movement, ever since it achieved a dubious notoriety last year with the inclusion of its name on the list of the 200 most dangerous websites in the world! — sites allegedly specializing in “fake news”.
FRANKLIN RYCKAERT : None of the parties in this conflict want an all-out war with Iran, especially not Israel. Israel cannot attack Iran on its own and would need the US to do so, but for the US a ground war in Iran is excluded. The US can only bomb Iran, but if it does so, Iran would retaliate with its missiles on US troops and installations in the Gulf and on Israel itself, which is within its reach. At the same time Hezbollah in Lebanon would rain its estimated 150,000 rockets on Israel, against which it has insufficient protection with its Iron Dome system (success rate only 20%). To instigate an all-out war with Iran would be suicide for Israel.
Thus the only thing that could “escalate” is more limited attacks by Israel on Iranian troops and installations in Syria and Iranian attacks on Israel from Syria. That may become nasty but will not lead to a war with Iran itself. The conflict may last long and prevent the rebuilding of Syria. The ultimate loser would be Syria, which would once again become a battlefield for foreign powers.
At best Putin could broker a deal between Israel and Iran : the Iranians leave Syria in exchange for Israel no more attacking Syria. Perhaps a chance for Putin to earn the Nobel Prize for Peace?
HAROLD SMITH : You say: “None of the parties in this conflict want an all-out war with Iran, especially not Israel.” But I think the murderous orange demoniac and his Jewish-supremacist handlers DO want “all-out war with Iran.” Don’t forget we’re dealing with devil-worshiping, demon-possessed madmen here. You never know what such sub-human creatures will do.
PASCHN : I wouldn’t trust ANYTHING the racist/supremacist Jews spew. Or their hole of a nuclear rogue state in the Middle East, any more than I would believe all those organs harvested from Palestinians were “donated”.
Washington has been “servicing” AIPAC/Israel far too long. One look at what more than 100 years of Jew “advisers”, screeching into the ears of their oval-office puppets, would make intelligent observers take notice. This human sewage? Not very much!
Thanks to “common core” indoctrination and “Safe” kosher pharmaceuticals, most Americans couldn’t find the middle east on a map, let alone have an objective opinion on the Self Chosen.
This is a nation of fools ruled by Satan’s synagogue; it’s a true marriage made in hell.
HP : Sheesh, the very first lie came with the very first alleged opening volley of some 20 MLRS rockets deploying thermobaric and/or cluster munitions, fired at Israeli positions in the Golan. This allegedly resulted in ZERO casualties for the Israelis. Is this what we’re supposed to believe?
Anyone who knows what these weapons from Hell are really like, also knows full well that zero casualties would be practically impossible. So, with the very first volley of missiles, the truth was virtually annihilated at the same time.
The rest, as they say, is history…
KAPOORE : Trump’s downfall is Israel’s rising up. That’s for sure. I am still a Trump fan, but… he will get to drown in the swamp of the Middle East if he doesn’t watch his step! He has picked the wrong alliance. We should be allied with Iran and Russia, not with Israel and the Saudis.
On the other hand, I wouldn’t be surprised if he has some kind of knife to his throat from the so called “Deep State”. Those putting pressure on him are probably Jewish occultists and their minions. This has apparently been going on since the time of the French Revolution…
Still, if Trump gets us involved in a war in the Middle East, he’ll get impeached — and he’ll deserve it!
UNGENIUS (to Kapoore) : Trump is going to remove US troops from Syria which is not in Israel’s best interest for expansion via war. The process is in motion with Trump pulling out of the Iran deal that stops the $500-billion annual US payments. Iran is now threatening the EU players with exposure for all the bribery that took place for the “deal” if they do not fill in the cash void. The UK, France, Germany and the EU are in a panic. With US sanctions to be reinstalled, there is now talk of the US punishing EU countries with sanctions if they do not comply. The EU has the most to lose by the Iran “nuclear” deal falling apart. The global Deep State plans are unraveling, including a big war in the Middle East.
Trump does not have the Deep State’s knife at his throat. He is too well protected. In fact, he is in hot pursuit of the Deep State. Since the Deep State is global, there is close coordination between Trump, Putin and Zi to eradicate the Deep State.
This is why there will be no WWIII.
According to Qanon, Israel is the last name on the list for Deep State cleansing. There could be a lot of unemployed Jews in Israel one of these days, given that most of Israel is part of the Deep State.
HAROLD SMITH (responding to Ungenius) : You say, “Trump is going to remove US troops from Syria…”
Is there any actual evidence suggesting this—other than the cheap words of a shameless serial liar?
UNGENIUS : The word “going” is a future tense word. Of course there is no proof. However, the future does prove the past, so wait and see.
HAROLD SMITH : You go on to say, “…which is not in Israel’s best interest for expansion via war. The process is in motion with Trump pulling out of the Iran deal that stops the $500-billion annual US payments.”
But is there any evidence that the U.S. government is giving the government of Iran any money above and beyond its own money? I refer to money previously invested in U.S. accounts that were subsequently “frozen”.
UNGENIUS : If you can find an official copy of the Iran Deal, you will notice that Iran never signed it. Since the Iran Deal is not legal, would you expect to find official payments?
CURMUDGEON : Trump is pulling out of the Iran deal, because Iran, like Iraq under Saddam, stopped using the US dollar as the basis for selling oil. As for the “cash”, just how much would Iran’s assets, seized in 1979, be worth in today’s market? Sure they returned the assets, but not at their real value.
HAROLD SMITH : You say, “Trump is pulling out of the Iran deal, because Iran, like Iraq under Saddam, stopped using the US dollar as the basis for selling oil.”
No he isn’t. Trump is pulling out of the JCPOA agreement because that’s what his Jewish-supremacist masters are telling him to do. The petrodollar theory of U.S. aggression has been thoroughly debunked many times.
UNGENIUS : Iran stopped selling its oil in dollars years ago, opting for the Euro instead. They even sold some of their oil to India for gold. If what you say is true, then certainly the puppet Obama would have fixed it for the Jewish banksters before Trump arrived.
Since there were kickbacks and bribes associated with the Iran Deal, Iran did not get even its initial monetary value back, much less the current value.
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Is Trump (top right) being controlled by Netanyahu (bottom right) ?
Or is it the other way round? Is Trump the Master Gamesplayer?
LD : There are two other alternatives to consider, taxing our ingenuity to its utmost: (a) Are Putin and Trump Zionist stooges, both working for their shadowy master, the International Jew? Or an even more bizarre idea from the wilder shores of the Sea of Insanity: (b) Are Putin and Trump secretly in cahoots, both working undercover to pull the rug from under the feet of Big Jewry, bomb Israel to smithereens, and usher in a new Golden Age in which all Jews are resettled in Antarctica — provided the penguins agree. 🙂
DR. DOOM : Netanyahu is fighting to stay where he is. It’s not strategy at all. Trump is still stuck in Korea. Netanyahu is about to be kicked out. This is his attempt to stave off being thrown out.
Trump is an idiot. He knows zip about what’s going on. He makes many promises to everyone. Stupid he is, yes.
The US Military is no longer an effective force. It’s a quota hire goof troop that has had a major string of accidents lately. It looks like Launchpad McQuack is running the US military nowadays.
Netanyahu cannot afford to wait. Trump has no idea what he’s doing. Most of the combat readies are parked in Korea. Trump is probably making all sorts of promises he cannot keep — yet again!
It’s what this idiot always does.
BARKINGDEER (to Dr Doom) : I don’t think Trump is nearly as stupid as people who hate him like to make out. His Korea deal just might turn out big and good.. like he said, it could have been done years ago. if anybody had even tried … but they’ve been all pretty much deep state MIC puppets for the last few decades. Obama was a total plant. George W Buch an obvious fool…
The big reconstruction money coming up in Syria, way on top of the billions already transferred out of the military action, is probably the trade-off required in order to move Korea forward, with which Kim understands the USA can make North Korea prosperous, up to South Korea’s high standards, and Kim can then be the hero of that.. either that or things get a lot worse the other way. That was Trump’s deal with Kim, I guess.. either Kim takes the deal or we wipe his nuke program out, and his palace full of gorgeous young stuff… he doesn’t want that! 🙂
Trump got the hostages returned… ok good… maybe conditions are now improved in Kim’s torture prisons, the same way they did in red China when Nixon visited there…
Lots of jewish people want Netanyahu gone. I talked to one lady the other day… Netanyahu’s pushing hard for the war on Iran before Iran can get nukes, but it’s really because Iran feeds Hezbolla. And that’s what’s been stopping the Jews from invading Lebanon and grabbing the Litani river… they need the water, and the Zionists always want to expand their borders…
As we all know, Israel has no borders… how convenient!
I know the situation looks pretty bad, but I’m not sure we should worry too much about Trump killing Obama’s Iran deal… he’s just re-opening the negotiating process, which was locked out with Obama’s deal. And the Obama deal was a Deep State production with all the rotten giblets. Yes, you can bet on that.
Does Trump have something up his sleeve to eventually out the jews and put them back in their place? Let’s not give up hope on that!
Of course, the real story is, the Iranians aren’t even TRYING to build nuclear weapons. Though they do want reactors. Meanwhile Israel has hundreds of nukes and could be making a new one every month or so.
Iran is halfway Westernized… it’s the Zionist Jews who are the real cancer in the area.
CARNAPTIOUS : In the fog of war it is very difficult to say what is really happening. Information available to most of us is second, third or fourth hand, and every reporter or author has some kind of bias. There have been stories about Putin giving Israel a “green light” to attack Syria. There have been other stories, far more rare, that report a Putin/Nutty meeting in which loud shouting was heard through a closed door. I wasn’t there, so I don’t know what happened.
THORBY (a troll making his first appearance) : Putin and Trump have one thing in common. They are both Israeli puppets. It would appear that the Darkmoon site is one too!
SISTER MONICA (acting in her capacity of moderator) : My first reaction to your stupid comment was to spam it. On second thoughts, I decided to approve it so that our readers could see what a brainless blockhead you are. Off you go, Crackhead, and don’t bother to return! 🙂
We’d hardly publish your cretinous comment if we were afraid of being “outed” as crypto-Zionists.
Geniuses are rare on the ground, but an idiot is born every minute.
MARK GAFFNEY : The author of this article states that Iran started the exchange by firing twenty missiles at Israel. But this now appears to be another lie—one of so many—initiated by Israel and spread via the servile western media. Check out this report at Information Clearing House. It proves that Israel was in fact the instigator.
UNGENIUS (responding to Mark Gaffney) : I happened to be online the night of the attacks and caught the first non-MSM reports. The first report was that Israel was artillery shelling a location in Syria, I forget its name. Yes, it certainly appeared to me that Israel was the instigator of the exchange.
PAT : Of course Israel tossed numerous shells into Syria. Whether first, middle or last… they are among the ‘Deep Demolition Team’, razing the old buildings for new buildings to be raised. 🙂
LD : Any further insights on the question “Who started it?”
CURMUDGEON : It’s important to remember that the Golan Heights IS Syria, It has been occupied by Israel since 1967. Israel and Syria are still in a state of war.
It’s also important to remember that NO ROCKETS WERE FIRED AT ISRAEL, but there were rockets fired at the IDF in Syria.
ISRAEL HAS NEVER BEEN DIRECTLY ATTACKED BY IRAN — NOT YET!
The other point that is always ignored, is that Israel still occupies a small part of Lebanon, Sheba’a Farms. Israel occupied this foreign territory and refers to it as its own, as part of Israel. This is never mentioned in the mainsteam media.
The lack of honesty, even in “alternate” news sources, is truly astounding.
LD : Thank you, everyone, for an excellent debate! It’s hard seeing through the fog, but you’ve managed to throw light on many murky issues. So once again, many thanks!