Emerging from the fog


Transcending the lies 
we continue to believe



Do you believe we have an honest government? Do you believe you are an honest person? Where is the disconnect? Are we all doomed to take the bribes and keep our mouths shut?

All writing is but the making of maps. Teaching everyone how to get from here to there.

Though separated from his product, man is more and more, and ever more powerfully, the producer of every detail of his world. The closer his life comes to being his own creation, the more drastically is he cut off from that life. — Guy Debord, The Society of the Spectacle, 1968

That dire assessment is verified by the number of other species we continue to kill off. Can you see the connection between the thoughtless genocide of all wildlife on this planet, and your own scheduled departure?

Do we kill because we need to deny our own deaths? Because this is forbidden to think about, we are blocked from the seeing the root of many of our problems. The invention of a foolproof escape mechanism — muttering a magic formula that guarantees eternal life — has merely anesthetized the patient, but not really cured the disease, and much wrong continues to be wreaked in the name of the various holy scriptures.

We never signed on to this ridiculous deal when we were born. Somehow the fact that we don’t live forever is responsible for most of the wonderful things we DO have, notably, love, which comes in an infinite variety of flavors, and as any child will tell you is the best thing. As I have said before, without death, the possibility of love does not exist.

But we’ve turned death into some kind of candy store fantasyland. Millions of Muslims will kill on demand for the specific X-rated items promised to those killed in noble battle against the infidel when they reach the Islamic afterlife. (I guess before they die they want to practice on European girls.) This stupid orientation is right up there with rising from the tomb after three days and sitting at the right hand of God. They are merely embellished prognoses from the formula most religions have used since the dawn of time.

Cut the crap! These stories are fairy tales for children! The trouble is, down through history, the adults have never realized that killing other adults over they way they say their prayers is the absolute height of insanity. Humans have internalized these childhood make-believes and convinced most of the planet to believe in sacred fantasies that totally ignore the natural world and all the creatures in it. Only this invention called a soul, as Nietzsche put it, delegitimized all of human history, and made all of reality secondary to what the priests told us.

Totally suppressed in this debate was the knowledge that the less we follow the suggestions of nature the more likely it is that we will destroy ourselves prematurely. In both the world and ourselves, this process seems well advanced. Our ability to believe we can construct a better life than nature has provided for us has led to the trashing of the planet and the poisoning of all species with profit-making gimmicks, the worst of which is religion, which invariably says everyone who doesn’t follow their exclusive formula is evil, making it the No. 1 generator of wars.

It is a barometer of our failing health that American mainstream popular music for the past 57 years has failed to mention any significant social problem, or suggest any solution to the negative influences that seem to descend upon us BECAUSE of our government, rather than DESPITE our government. This kind of talk has never been allowed on U.S. airwaves; or, not since before World War II.

That should tell us something is wrong, but the population at large has become too estranged from the actual reality of their own lives to recognize it. We should have known something was really wrong in 1913. It should have told us a hundred years ago but the power of public relations was harnessed by Freud’s nephew — who got women to smoke! — and the artificial reality was well under way.

You don’t need to be religious, you need to be principled, something the Jews can never be because they are taught from the time they are 8 seconds old to hate the world around them before they learn how to steal it.

You’re not only responsible for everything that does happen to you; you’re also responsible for everything that could happen to you.

News you might have missed

The human, it turns out, is the most well developed lifeform in the universe. At least as far as we know. Other than the large sea creatures in the ocean, the only lifeforms who are thus far more advanced than humans are those characters imagined by humans and placed in a fictional context that seems real. Sometimes more real than real.

With capabilities unmatched by any other species. humanity’s great fault is its failure to realize the gifts it has been given and the powers that it possesses.

Until this fact is overturned, you should proceed as if it is true. And when and if that fact is ever superseded by new knowledge, let our mature understanding of ourselves realize this would be great because the universe contains more knowledge that we can comprehend, so it would be wonderful to learn new things from creatures of great wisdom whom we in fact aspire to emulate. As long as they didn’t want to eat us.

Which is the great fear of most of the animals on Earth.

If we are now the highest lifeform in the universe, we really should start acting like it.

Let the children lead, for they are us in our best sense. When we stop working for them we’ve stopped working for ourselves.

Will we wake up and discover what it is we really have to do, knowing that the promises of religion are mind control hoaxes? Our survival depends on it.

If we don’t emerge from the fog, we will disappear forever in the useless rubble of our own creations.

The very principles on which we base our lives are based upon an illusion. Nietszche was right. When Saul/Paul invented heaven, he destroyed the previous history of humanity and created a mindlock situation in which nothing you can do in life is as important as gaining eternal life in heaven.

This made our reality totally unreal, forever and ever, Amen.

On the road to a poisoned nirvana
(See here)

The danger in all this is that when you declare heaven does not exist, does it release the hounds of hell upon the world? Or are the Pope and John Hagee really those infernal dogs? Better we should determine why and how these hellhounds exist and eliminate the conditions of their creation. Many of them hide in churches and mosques, but far more lurk in synagogues, eager to snatch your money AND your soul.

The lies our holy men have told us are reflected in the secrecy of government decisions. Executive privilege, they used to call it when I was covering various municipal councils. It enabled them to do things in secret that the public would be very upset to know, but when push comes to shove the business world has no ethics, and government is really just another business.

When there is no moral authority to oversee its behavior, government will commit any kind of crime to preserve itself long past the time it should be thoroughly cleaned out and consigned to an infamously bloody and misguided history. Everyone already knows that the psychopaths who control it now are not going to give back the country they have stolen from us, so it’s up to us to get it back.

The early odds from Vegas on this bet are not good.


41 thoughts to “Emerging from the fog”

  1. This invention called a Soul. In the past 25 years governments, security services and notably the BBC have, undeniable, proof that a human can work in unity, on Earth, with his Soul Person. Over the years there has been numerous occasions in which the Soul person has intervened, two being, The Kings Cross Station fire and the Brighton bombing. The human counterpart has performed a number of miracles, however, the decision was made to assassinate him, unsuccessfully, the present Christian King of Kings, Revelation, Chapter 19.

  2. Kaminski’s writing is the divine truth – I know of no other inspired writer able to communicate in such a powerful way – straight to the heart of the matter and of the reader.

    I believe it was Kaminski who coined the term ‘pension plan religion’ – the Abrahamic religions that promise a relaxing retirement in heaven in return for INACTION on Earth.

    How does one get through to a pension-plan believer?

    Please contribute to Kaminski’s up keep by a donation.
    @ADMIN What are the details?

  3. Again Kaminski ignores the obvious. It is not the Jew who uses religion to steel from the poor the sick and hopeless and prey on the elderly. How many Jewish Evangelists with Sunday Morning television shows are there begging for your donation in God’s name ? Oh Glory Glory send me $5 or $10 so that I can spread his word! Hallelujah Hallelujah! Yea right, then most of these Sunday morning infomercials on morality end up like Jim Baker & Tammy Fae!

    How much wealth does the Catholic Church have? Well they need it to settle all the pedophile lawsuits don’t they? Religion is all BS and without the religious concept of a heaven or hell what difference would there be with what one does with their life on this earth?

    Religion was created to control the masses. Because the Masses are Asses. One needs to live by a moral code found. Most Jews do and are good people. You can see that Jews are the largest contributors of secular charity by comparison in the USA https://nonprofitquarterly.org/2017/12/19/americas-jewish-community-leads-per-capita-giving/ How would Mr. Kaminski explain this?

    1. Thanks Ralan,
      Let the truth be told. The World is full of liars and most aren’t Jewish. Would any decent Jew want to share his dinner-table with Cheney, Bush or Trump? Don’t think so. Enough said. 🤫

  4. The Abrahamic religions are the worst thing that has happened to the world in the last 5000 years or so. And, in my mind the single most destructive idea that came out of these religions is the idea that Man somehow has dominion over nature, the animals, and the earth. This idea gave license to all those psychopaths out there that they could damn well do anything they wanted with the planet and everything on it. They ‘OWNED’ it. Unless we as a species finally come to the realization that we all exist in this vast interconnected energetic system we call ‘reality’, and we respect the Earth and ALL the other life forms on it……we’re toast.

    1. QUOTE; “The Abrahamic religions are the worst thing that has happened to the world (and)……we’re toast.”

      Fine words and exactly right. We are toast because the Abrahamic religions allow psychopaths to have dominion over nature and the natural reality that sustains us. Trees and cows became dollar signs, not living things needing our respect. Case in point is kosher process of making the animal suffer before you kill them, maximizing the fear in the animal by cutting it’s throat and watching it bleed out a bewildering death instead of just killing it instantly with a airgun designed for a quick merciful death. Why Jews do this is unknown but I suspect that they hate the natural world and want to see everything suffer. So when Jews destroy us they like to do by a slow means to make us suffer for the longest time period. Such a drawnout horrible fate awaits the Zionist controlled United States. This was stated explicitly by Satanyahu himself:


      This is what Bibi Netanyahu said while sitting at the head of that private table in Fink’s Bar (transcribed from a secretly recorded audio of Netanyahu at that meeting – words that few Americans, Israelis or others have seen or heard until today):

      “If we get caught, they will just replace us with persons of the same cloth. So, it does not matter what you do. America is a golden calf; and we will suck it dry, chop it up, and sell it off piece by piece until there is nothing left but the world’s biggest welfare state that we will create and control. Why? Because it is the will of God, and America is big enough to take the hit; so, we can do it again and again and again. This is what we do to countries that we hate. We destroy them very slowly and make them suffer for refusing to be our slaves.” [Confirmed by an “attendee” during a debriefing.]

      Now we are moving at light speed toward a completely artificial reality of Ai, transhumanism, and robots with consciousness. In other words we as a specie are moving toward a completely unnatural computed reality, which will probably end up being a worse hell than the one we imagined in religion. Why, you ask, are we doing this to ourselves? Because those that hate us are in charge of the world. Jewish control of the world means that the world will suffer until the Goyim figure out what is going on and end them once and for all time. But that will never happen because so many of the gentle people have been converted to a Jewish based religion like Christianity. The passiveness preached by the Jewish Christ will be the primary cause of our extinction.

  5. Often, trying to “transcend the lies” emphasizes the old saying “ignorance is bliss”. The Proverbs state “…with much knowledge cometh much sorrow.” At best, it is well to be aware that many lies ARE foisted upon us, so don’t take every little word so seriously. Stay simple in your own life, and remove yourself from the complications of others.

  6. “Are we all doomed to take the bribes and keep our mouths shut?”

    So it would appear. But as I’ve written before, of which certain writers will take serious issue with, a German victory on the battlefields of WW2 would have averted this. This would have made for a smoother transition to what’s coming anyway, which is the dissolution of this material realm, now sooner than later.

    There are two choices, in my view. Dissolve with it and remain in a desultory state, or move on from it and into one of true abundance….what should always be the case WHEREVER we exist.

    1. Well said Brownhawk.
      There is one choice. To leave illusion behind or continue the same old circle and addiction to individuality and superiority and ever repeating death/beginning. Today’s reality has positives that arise from negativity. The choice has become a lot clearer then ever before.

  7. Addressed to him, John forwarded a “Dear John” letter to correspondents, written by a certain Jack Heart. You can find Jack Heart’s site through Patreon. Very thought-provoking response to John’s thoughts, including those in the essay above.

    1. BC, The Matrix is not only apparent and subtle, but more apparent and subtle than we can imagine, or even dream. So supremely perfect and fair,
      everyone gets whatever they want, forever..

      1. Jesus’ reporting of reincarnation doesn’t imply his condoning of its reality. What would constitute certainty, given that the act of dying means losing control of your bodily vehicle? A means of control we don’t possess anyway by virtue of our chemical and biological makeup as human ticking time bombs. And if WE don’t have command of our Being, then who DOES? Some “Supreme” Being, or a genie who grant’s us our wishes? How do we know “they” can be trusted? Why would we want to trust an other with this ANYWAY?

        Blind faith in a continuation of existence comes from belief in dubious doctrine.
        True faith sees with a knowing heart

      2. hp
        WHATEVER they want? I’ll venture to say that no one wants to go through the aging process, grow old and decrepit and then die. Whaddup widdat? Shouldn’t we ALWAYS be able to sustain that which transcends the material? If not….WHY not? Sure, we have to accept this inevitability, but this doesn’t mean we should FIND it acceptable.
        Again I’ll ask the question: Under what authority does the responsibility for this reality lie?

      3. “Jesus’ reporting of reincarnation doesn’t imply his condoning of its reality. ”
        Huh? That’s nonsense.

        Same as if I were to say;
        Jesus’ reporting of his Father doesn’t imply his condoning of the reality of his Father,
        would also be nonsense.
        So I wouldn’t say it.

      4. So what is the true identity of this “father”?
        This could be seen as being at the heart of my question

      5. OK I’ll amend that, “Jesus reporting of reincarnation, whose source if information is called the “father”…”
        So I see Jesus as being an “agent” for the Light. What he saw told him that this father is a usurper, a Creation thief passing himself off as the “Supreme Being”…..the cheek of this rascal!
        Sounds to me like this is the kind of father who says, “I brought you into this world, and I can take you out”!”…..Just warns the cockles of yer heart, don’t it? 💔
        Oh I forgot, it’s just the way it is, so that makes it legitimate…..talk about yer nonsense😝

  8. I have read articles by John Kaminski and some are good and some not. This essay confuses mind more than clears it. But why he has to drag Muslims in this essay saying:
    ‘millions Muslims will kill on demand for the specific x-rated items promised to those killed……’
    He is referring to same cliché of 72 Virgins fabricated by defeated Crusaders when they went back to Europe and recycled time and time again by defamers of Islam and Isamophobes. And writing a sarcastic comment that ‘they want to practice on European girls before they die’ is not a sign of a serious scholar. Concept and reality of afterlife in Islam is vastly richer than killing an infidel which is not even part of achieving afterlife or Paradise. It shows the complete ignorance of religion of Islam.
    Please watch a short video by Lseley Hazleton here:

    1. Hoshu –

      Maybe Kaminski should have mentioned…

      Yemen and other countries descend into chaos, hunger and disease…. because sunni & shia kill each other over religious beliefs.

      The so good sunni & so good shia chop each other to pieces in wars globally!!

      I do not see musselmen in a religion of peace(sic) that is any better than the rest.

  9. Most likely I think, to the extent that the Jews are able to get over on everyone else, it’s largely because of the way they were ostracized and persecuted by so-called Christian society for all those centuries..
    They were public enemy #1 for so long..
    They learned to work together against everyone else…
    And it’s probably accurate to say that Christian’s (unreal ones) wreaked every bit as much havoc on the planet and its people as the Jews have done…
    I almost said ‘more’ until I thought of the bolsheviks, communism and Mao’s work…
    But really, islam, shinto, buddhism, Hinduism, they’ve all transgressed, on the typical religious idea that they’re the chosen, with the obligation and duty to eliminate everybody else… with the kicker – that the real reward awaits in the eternal paradise.
    And if you wind up with the other guy’s property after you’ve wiped him out, well then that’s just the way it goes…
    That’s capitalism too..
    A man subordinated functions as the agent of somebody else…
    You get that message big in basic military training…
    Religion sells people on the idea that we are all agents basically…
    And I remember it well, they want to put a religious designation on your dog tags… my company commander made it real clear – all his recruits WILL put the name of one of the know religions on the dog tags.. ‘athiest’ or ‘pagan’ will NOT be accepted…
    Look, all these establishment religions have had all the time in the world to ameliorate the difficulties…
    But they do all generally have the wrong idea, which is that life on earth in the corporeal state is secondary in value and importance to the existence in the Eternal Paradise.
    I’m not sure how good that belief is for the game plan while we’re here, trying to avoid war…
    Much less likely are such ‘acolytes’ to have a plan to preserve the biosphere… they don’t.. animals you see, do not have these souls, so they have no value… basic sentience doesn’t get you there… as for the planet – it’s just dirt… these things have no value except as commodities…
    With real ‘soulless’ corporations in control of that, we are in a fix…
    So now we see clearly the need to return to the original connection, to God the Universe…
    Religion as we know it is dying out… But there’s no guarantee that humans will ever find that real spirituality again, especially not in the electronically smoggy transhumanist 5G AI mind-fk state planned for us all by those who aspire to supremacy.

    1. At the risk of another lambasting by certain commentators as a self-identified “new-age guru”, or, better or worse, type-casted as (((Donelson))) — no offensive comment there, eh Admin? I be a member of The Club!

      ADMIN: Will you STOP referring to Admin please. We don’t appreciate these snide and facetious references to Admin in almost every comment you make. STOP IT right now.

      — may I humbly recommend, again, the work of Yogi Bhajan, who addressed as coherently as anyone I have encountered over 50 years of researching this kind of stuff, the issues you raise concerning “religion” and “spirituality”. Both “The Master’s Touch” and “The Mind” reveal a perspective that cuts across the diagonal of the plane you de-scribe!

      Still leading horses to water, I don’t teach how to drink! This watering hole worth a visit, that’s all I say.

      1. @ (((Alam Donelson)))

        Another off-topic comment I see.

        You really know how to wind people up, including Admin.

        Well done!

    1. Although I often say that mosques and madrassas are factories of hate and that Islam is a religion of hate with the muslims out to annihilate the infidels, it doesn’t apply to all but the most extremist muslims. I suppose many pity the infidels as they feel their religion is superior and cannot understand why anyone would refuse to be converted when given the opportunity, as the superiority of their own religion is so obvious to them (but then this applies to all religions). So they see all infidels as potential muslims and this video shows that. Didn’t you know that everyone is born a muslim, they just don’t know it yet?

  10. “The human, it turns out, is the most well developed lifeform in the universe.”

    AUA, that hurts already reading. What an arrogant statement of underdeveloped superority! This seems to be just a hand picked theory of the current management of an encapsulated Mental asylum mob stacked away safely in an out skirt of the universe. Quarantined seems more appropriate then well developed.
    It doesn’t really matter what one thinks as only a few handful of these “overdeveloped” species think for the under developed herd. In the meantime the mass of these highly intelligent species even have lost their ability to use 10 % of their highly developed brain which soon will be replaced with an implanted chip as the grey mass of useless pudding either dwells in highly educated useless intellect or in illusionary universal laws and confusion while the brain decays in uselessness. Genitalia and sex are already accepted changeable goods, all for the horrific future that will face the “developed” and dependent brainless psychopath. IT will be glad not to think in confusion any more as the chip will do everything for him.
    This is no development. Just plain and simple a well planed design.
    Not that the bible is an very authentic document, BUT the problems of man are still the same and have become much bigger then they were 2000 years ago.
    “One that calls evil good, and good evil, or puts darkness for light, and light for darkness or uses bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter” has become OUR REALITY – if John Kaminski and Nietzsche’s great grand children and followers like it or not does not matter at all. The “most well developed lifeform” will consume itself for a greater good that seems just the plain opposite.

    1. JO –

      You wrote:
      “One that calls evil good, and good evil, or puts darkness for light, and light for darkness or uses bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter” has become OUR REALITY – if John Kaminski and Nietzsche’s great grand children and followers like it or not does not matter at all.”

      That is surely the case for me…. since I have seen mankind, including me, GUESSING at reality more than KNOWING reality. That is the reason for the abundance of different religions & political groups. GUESSING!!! 🙂

  11. Barkingdeer:

    The lady in video is Sharifa Alkhateeb, and American born writer, researcher and teacher. She is daughter of a Colored Muslim man and a White Christian woman. She was involved in feminist causes, domestic violence prevention, as well as interfaith and educational organizations. I don’t’ know her and I have never heard about her but recently through pages of darkmoon.

    Whatever she’s saying she is saying in public and not in secret. Therefore there is no conspiracy here. She is preaching what Christian missionaries preach all over the world. In year 2000, according to the Study of Global Christianity there were 440,000 missionaries all over the world. The number must have been grown sine then. They are preaching Christianity to people of the world to save their souls through Jesus. And that’ fine with me. If they can convert people peacefully to the message of Christ, then good for them. Similarly she’s trying to convert Americans to peaceful message of Islam through education and as long as she does not use violence, coercing or force she had the right under US constitution. I don’t see any wrong here.

    1. Hoshu –

      You wrote:
      “…she had the right under US constitution.”

      Since the US Constitution grants NO rights… there are NO rights “under the US Constitution.” There are a few limited rights ‘PROTECTED BY’ the Bill of Rights….. which actually contain qualifications. That is why you can be arrested for falsely shouting “FIRE!” in a crowded public place. That is an abuse of speech.

      Some could rightfully claim that messages from religious leaders of any faith who are attempting conversion of others is an abuse of speech in America….. the same as it would be in an islamic country if the conversion were judaism or any other religion.

      I see islam, dutifully, not wanting to ‘take part’…. but to ‘take over’ all countries.

  12. HOSHU
    you’re correct, the woman has the right to convince others to join her religion
    .but in this case the purpose of her religion is to replace us Republican Constitutional Law with Sharia…
    In the USA we have freedom of religion, yes, but the same amendment also guarantees the public be kept free from religion…
    The separation of church and state must be maintained… to me that means they get no special treatment, exemptions or compensation.
    I understand all religions are false to begin with as matters of fact..
    But fact is not what religion is about, and can never be…
    Religion is a matter of faith, it has to be..
    And religions are too readily coopted for political purposes, which is why they still exist…
    Islam is clearly subversive, because it seeks negation of constitutional government..
    All Muslim immigration should be stopped…
    We do not oppose immigration because we are ‘white supremacists’…
    That’s a religious meme in itself…

  13. Kaminski is right, and I’m sure he has it on good authority, that death and the fear of it is plenty of good reason for people to need counseling, and that’s where religion comes in…
    I know Catholicism promotes the idea of Hell, which to me is about the prospect of being dead and aware that you are dead, totally trapped at nowhere with nothing forever, other than a real bad feeling…
    As far as they’re concerned, we’re all railways aware, and it can be every bit as bad as it can be good…

    1. Isn’t the idea of hell the same what “our world” is slowly but surely changing to? Dead and soulless people in living bodies without any conscience for anything else other than oneself?
      When a church is built on an image of a traitor called Peter “the rock” that gave up all that his masters teachings in order to save his own identity and life, One can surely expect it is not him at heavens gate judging the direction the eternal soul will take. The Egyptians idea of reaching the afterlife was that one’s conscience was to be judged against the weight of a feather. A very scary idea for “Peter the rock” and the majority of the employees and some evangelical followers of the “holy church” and Christianity.

  14. I see islam, dutifully, not wanting to ‘take part’…. but to ‘take over’ all countries.
    This perception is true as far as perceptions go, but is it a reality or in another way, is it true? One could argue that this is what the mass media has presented as the real image and intent of Islam. One could argue that the Muslims themselves have also contributed a lot to this.

    I guess one would have to consider what does ‘take part’ really mean? Does it mean one should be ‘gung-ho’ to join up and take part in military conquests on behalf of the present ‘Godless European-Jewish’ order?

    Does it mean one should be all for the political process as it currently stands?

    Does it mean being vocal to defend the constitution……?

    Muslims themselves have contributed to this image of not taking part by misapplying their genuine feelings of distinctiveness and coloring it with various dress customs from their home countries. This by itself is immediately a significant barrier, which ironically is opposite to what the Prophet did himself. He did not try to bring out the differences in people but rather the commonness and so if he had a delegation from Yemen, he dressed like them and spoke their dialect, his aim was to bring people closer and not separation.

    The neighbourhoods that look like ‘little India’ is going against this principle. That being said, most of these countries have no problem with ‘little China’ in every city, in fact it is almost mandatory!

    Distinctiveness was in matters of belief and even in this, Islam is very pluralistic, perhaps it is the most pluralistic of all of the big religions. In the past, Jews and Christians had their own mini legal systems inside the bigger Muslim framework, and this was not just for the ‘Abrahamic’ religions but that was extended to the Zoroastrians and in some cases to the Hindus also.

    After all, Islam does not claim to be Abrahamic only, but it claims to be the innate religion of man from the beginning. I am not in favour of Mughal imperialistic conquests of India, but as bad or ‘religiously’ fanatic as Aurangzeb was supposed to have been, it is a fact that he built Mandirs and temples for the Hindu population under his rule.

    Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve. [Quran Baqara:62]

    Let the people of the Gospel Judge by what God hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what God hath revealed they are (no better than) those who rebel. [Quran Maida 47]

    Perhaps it is because of this type of consciousness that some Muslims expect to have or desire to have some measure of a Sharia mini system inside the bigger framework; this ought not to be seen as a desire to take over. They see it as a truer form of the expression of democracy, which Muslims have in theory, and have implemented somewhat in the past. I am not saying that I agree with the mini Sharia’ system, I am simply stating their position. I am closer to the opinion that the present system already has measures in place to accommodate this without some ‘formal’ system. Having a ‘formal’ system in effect is another barrier and separation, which is not helpful in my opinion.

    The idea that Islam is about converting everyone to ‘Islam’ is in a sense, not truly Qur’anic. Yes, a Muslim has an obligation to follow the sacred law and to invite people to the way and yes, it expresses that everyone will be accountable; that the Qur’an was revealed for everyone but it does not express Islam as a singular expression, especially in a historical context; the idea of conversion is completely un-Qur’anic, only God opens hearts, the Qur’an is replete with verses confirming this.

    To thee (Muhammad) We sent the Scripture in truth confirming the scripture that came before it and guarding it in safety; so judge between them by what God hath revealed and follow not their vain desires diverging from the truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have We prescribed a Law and an Open Way. If God had so willed He would have made you a single people but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to God; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute. [Qur’an Ma’ida 48]

    To each is a goal to which God turns him; then strive together (as in a race) toward all that is good. Wheresoever ye are God will bring you together. For God hath power over all things [Qur’an Baqara 148]

    From the above verses it is clear that had Allah willed he could have made us one community, and so the idea to have different expressions of Islam is so that we compete in striving to develop ourselves to be a medium of grace and virtue in the world.

    [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right – only because they say, “Our Lord is Allah.” And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might. [Qur’an Al Hajj: 40]

    Here again, it not only mentions Mosques but Temples etc as legitimate expressions of mentioning God. There are some folks here blaming religion for everything and the first part of the above verse expressed what happened to believers of the past because they said, “Our Lord is Allah”.

    How wrong Kamenski is, on so many fronts! The New Godless age has brought more destruction than anything before it, perhaps even combined. The new Godless, European-Jewish, Zionist world take over is not reflective of true Judaism either, not at all.
    Most of these Jews are open or closet atheists, they hate religion; they are hedonistic nihilists who seem to revel in everything that takes man away from God.
    In reality, the new Godless order likes to pitch religion as each claiming to be the only truth and salvation and each wanting everyone in their camp but in reality that is their very ‘religious’ program.
    Same with Jihad, they peddle that religion was all about jihad, whether Muslim or Christian, when in reality that is their main pillar, they have never left it and never will, until the earth is absolutely spent and destroyed, because that’s what they’re after: complete Lordship.

    And this is because of religion! Quite the opposite. In fact it’s a proof for the role of religion, This is the result of constant projection and inversion, over and over and it begins early, that’s what schools and universities are made for, it’s their Mosques and Temples, Kamenski’s ideas are only a by-product of it.

    Their Lordship is our servitude and that is what Islam will always oppose. In reality when someone acknowledges Islam, he or she says, “There is no god but God”, this simple statement has within it its own understanding of liberty. Man is a fusion of two parts, the physical and the spiritual and he ought not to have any intermediaries between him and God in either realm.

    Anytime you interject someone or something in between man and God it is seen as a fundamental violation that takes man away from God and his true purpose. And so yes, liberty is intrinsic to the human constitution as Rousseau so eloquently stated. This is one of the reasons why idols are forbidden in Islam, they are not a ‘means’ to God, they are something in between. Man communicates instinctively with God without anyone or anything in between; this is La ilaa ha ilalaah – there is no God but God.

    This is the eternal, natural call to freedom. It is the same in the physical world, we don’t need Popes or Pundits or Imams or Rabbis to interpret the word of God for us. This is why it is mandatory for every Muslim to recite the Qur’an everyday; it empowers you so no one ‘lords’ himself over you; and that has always been a dangerous idea to the establishment, even more so these days considering the reach of the Godless oppressors.

    1. Seeb –

      Thanks for the thoughtful reply, as usual.

      You wrote:
      “Does it mean being vocal to defend the constitution……?”
      Only government office-holders and their agents are required to defend the constitutions of the US and the states.

      However, RIGHT NOW…. there are followers of mohammet holding offices in the US who are determined to implement sharia in ALL of the US and states.

      You also wrote:
      “The idea that Islam is about converting everyone to ‘Islam’ is in a sense, not truly Qur’anic.”

      Just as you question what “take part” means when I wrote that – so I now question what “in a sense” means. I also question what “not truly Qur’anic” means.

      All in all…. what you have written leads me to believe that, using your criteria, a woman can be ALMOST pregnant with child.

      You wrote this:
      “This is the eternal, natural call to freedom. It is the same in the physical world, we don’t need Popes or Pundits or Imams or Rabbis to interpret the word of God for us. This is why it is mandatory for every Muslim to recite the Qur’an everyday; it empowers you so no one ‘lords’ himself over you; and that has always been a dangerous idea to the establishment, even more so these days considering the reach of the Godless oppressors.”

      “mandatory”???? That means someone is MANDATING religious law!!
      Someone “….‘lords’ himself over you” in islam. Someone is an islamic “oppressor” in that case as well.

      Without written rules there is only mob rule. Praying five times a day does not give anyone power to do as they wish…. unless that one person is on his island and always alone.

      Since I do not believe in the writings of mohammet…. I do not want islamic “OPPRESSORS” in any government positions either. I want NO ONE MANDATING islamic law, sharia law in America.

      NO sharia for me!! 🙂

      Thanks again!

      1. I wrote earlier that I see islam, dutifully, not wanting to ‘take part’…. but to ‘take over’ all countries.

        That is particularly true in America!!

        Somali musselmen are NOT assimilating in America. They want sharia law in America.

        Somalis not assimilating in America – from 3 years ago – worse today:


        This week:

        Somali Teens Attack Victims with Hammers in Minnesota. Mainstream Media Remains Silent.

        A group of about ten male Somali teenagers armed with hammers attacked and injured several people at a light-rail station near the University of Minnesota and the infamous Little Mogadishu neighborhood. A witness said, “It was a group of Somali young males with hammers and bars. They were attacking anyone who looked like they had money or were white.” The incident took place on Friday, May 17 and has yet to receive coverage by any mainstream news outlet other than Fox News.

  15. SEEB
    “There is no god but God”,
    I’m afraid that’s a totally nonsensical statement, double-talk really…
    if you can give us an actual definition of your god, we may be able to continue the discussion…
    otherwise you are dismissed as just another religious fanatic…
    we are not irreverent and deserving of death because we want real answers…
    in the meantime, the aggressive history of islam is clear…
    yes we know all about how christianity has done the same thing…
    we want neither now…
    we say establishment religions, those that wiped out the naturally occurring environmental spirituality, are generally archaic at best, a drag, and islam is particularly toxic among religions…

    It’s the middle of the night. Do you know who your iPhone is talking to?

    It’s 3 a.m. Do you know what your iPhone is doing?

    Mine has been alarmingly busy. Even though the screen is off and I’m snoring, apps are beaming out lots of information about me to companies I’ve never heard of. Your iPhone probably is doing the same — and Apple could be doing more to stop it.

    On a recent Monday night, a dozen marketing companies, research firms and other personal data guzzlers got reports from my iPhone. At 11:43 p.m., a company called Amplitude learned my phone number, email and exact location. At 3:58 a.m., another called Appboy got a digital fingerprint of my phone. At 6:25 a.m., a tracker called Demdex received a way to identify my phone and sent back a list of other trackers to pair up with.

    (much more):

    A-I at work!!

    1. (A.I.’s making a list, Checking it twice; Gonna find out who’s naughty or nice)

      It knows when you are sleeping, It knows when you’re awake,
      It knows if you’ve been bad or good,
      so be good for goodness sake!

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