Gee, wouldn’t it be great to have a sane president again?

A New Year message from our Muslim correspondent 
MAHMOUD EL-YOUSSEPH

Today in the United States, we have government shut down, no Secretary of Defense, no White House Chief of Staff, no Attorney General, and no clear authority at the Department of Justice.

Sanctions on Russia have been practically lifted and our 2,300 troops in Syria found out they will be withdrawn ASAP through social media rather their from their field commanders.

Half of the top jobs in Trump’s State Department are still empty and the United States does not have ambassadors in Ankara, Riyadh, Islamabad, Cairo, Mexico City, Canberra, and Amman. No ambassador in South Africa or Singapore either.

As a result, those US allies feel under-appreciated.

The president made it a habit of abusing friends while appeasing America’s adversaries. He insulted Germany and other NATO members by accusing them of cheating on their dues, denounced the EU as a plot against the United States, and called Canada’s Prime Minister “dishonest.”

President Trump conducts foreign policy with foreign leaders while ignoring the advice of his cabinet and closest advisers.

The President ordered the government shut down because he did not get funding for his long-promised wall along the US-Mexico border.

This has affected hundreds of thousands of federal employees and contractors. Shutting down the government at Christmas is callous enough but doing so in order to build a “very beautiful” (his term not mine) wall  at the cost of $25 billion is insane.

Gee, wouldn’t it be great to have a sane President again?

59 thoughts to “Gee, wouldn’t it be great to have a sane president again?”

  1. Parasitic forces are now under control as the president rules in the nations best interest. Essential services are working as freebie distributors and their lackeys are sent home. Trump is a street wise business man who was educated by Jewish real estate moguls in NYC. He was taught to cut the fat and oil the machinery. The rest of the world can drop dead as long as the US thrives. Trump hates parasites even if they are kings or queens.

    1. It’s a rare occurrence, but for once I agree with a lot of what Melvin says, although I suspect his multi-millionaire German father had more influence on him than New York Jews. “Cut the fat and oil the machinery” is a very German trait too. Given that, no doubt Jews also had a great affect on him. His Jewish daughter proves that. Money, a successful business career and becoming a multi-millionaire would not have been possible if his father had spoken out for Germany in the 1930’s while Jewish thugs were bashing heads of people like that. In the thirties already, the Jews in NY were probably as powerful as the WASP’s, maybe more so. By the 70’s when Donald Trump started his career, the Jews ran NY completely, and certainly now the whole USA. So it can’t be argued that Jews didn’t have a great affect on him and as a former New Yorker, I can say on everybody. You can’t be extremely successful there if you don’t bend to them. People appear to be working on changing that.

      Jews also have a great talent for taking over what others build. They have taken over the USA and similarly, while ethnic Germans built and once owned much of the industry in South America, Jews bought them out. The difference is, when Germans had more influence, countries like Argentina were much wealthier and had a much higher standard of living. Now Argentina, Venezuela and others are basket cases. Jews have a habit of doing that to countries. I believe it’s their ethnocentrism and the hundreds of organizations they have around the world that they use to advance themselves. Others may choose to stop tolerating it.

      This is Blumenau, a city of 125,000 people. It’s the wealthiest city in Brazil.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCSPikNe5UY

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7dG3rNPmpg

      Trump deserves credit for this too. You could call it the Trump effect, Elizabeth Warren now claims she wants American troops out of Syria and Afghanistan now too.

      http://www.unz.com/video/thejimmydoreshow_elizabeth-warren-supports-trumps-syria-withdrawal/

  2. Mahmoud is back! Back from (((his))) JEW Israel and more determined than ever to have us believe (((he))) is “really” “a Muslim”. It’s funny how Mahmoud’s worldview and his take on things is the SAME EXACT worldview and the SAME EXACT take on things as that of the JEW COMMUNISTS. A funny COHENcidence. Mahmoud is a JEWISH cartoon character!

    ADMIN: Pay no attention to this, Mahmoud. ‘Joe’ is our resident joker, widely suspected of being Jewish himself and often accused of being the resident of a mental institution in Florida. Right, Joe?

    1. I myself don’t picture Mahmoud in a mental institution in Florida. I picture him in Israel, sometimes I picture him in Washington D.C., and sometimes I picture him on (((Dick Cheney’s))) ranch in Waco, Texas. Mahmoud sounds like a “Muslim” version of John McCain , except John McCain is no longer with us and Mahmoud is. I bet (((Dick Cheney))) and the Bush family, Hillary Clinton, Angela Merkel and the (((MEGA jewess Barbara Lerner Spectre))), all of them LERV Mahmoud “the Muslim”. I myself find him annoying.

      1. First of all, nice to be back here with the old crew. Secondly, Joe’s insult is a badge of honor for me. Third, Dick Cheney’s ranch is in Wyoming and not in Texas, dude! Finally, If Joe is implying that I am pro-Israel, then it must be cold in Hell. After all, you truly have received several death threats over the years from JDL and from ISISrael lovers.

        @ Lasha, thanks for caring! I learned one thing over the years; never wrestle with a pig. You just get dirty and the pig enjoys it.

    2. Joe knows way too much about Catholicism to be a Jew.

      It’s especially evident when he throws in casual tidbits while discussing other topics.

      1. Rich,

        I absolutely agree with you on this point. But anyone who thinks Joe is a defrocked priest who has lost his marbles and is housed in a Catholic institution for demented clergy, is probably wrong also. The reason I can say this is that I have full access to Joe’s unpublished comments in Spam. Hundreds of them. These unpublished comments are extremely obscene, sometimes involving bestiality with horses. They also involve female members of our staff who are fantasized over as using vibrators and so on. So we have a genuine nutcase here, a nutcase with an above-average knowledge of Catholicism…. An enigma in every way.

  3. ME-Y –

    “Today in the United States, we have government shut down…”

    Not enough ya can tell it! JUST 25%…
    ……………….only 75% left to go!! 🙂

      1. How about Tricky Dick? This one was a joke!

        Actually the names of the first, the second, the third, the 16th, the 35th, and the 39th presidents come to mind. Could you name who they are?

  4. God bless Putin and Russia and Assad and Syria for standing against the Zionist NWO in Syria and protecting Christians and people of all religions!

    As for the Zionist controlled U.S. government , I wish it could be shutdown FOREVER!

    1. uncle, Mahmoud, and sundry Darkmoon commentators :

      Say whatever you want about me, it rolls off my back like water. I’m On Top of The World right now, uncle finally kept THE AGREEMENT and THREE of my posts were featured yesterday! 3 in a row! I’m on a roll! I’m going to the horse races today, I’m feeling lucky, I might even win ¡The Trifecta! 3 in a row! I’m a ¡WINNER! I’m on a roll! 😊

      1. Good luck, TROJ… Take Mel witcha!!!

        Don’t climb over any WALLS of the gated communities and synagogues along the way!! Nobody has a problem with WALLS around gated communities….
        …. like Trump’s and Oprah’s properties!! 🙂 🙂

  5. The sooner the jewsa falls, the better, finally over to live in a jewish dictatorship. It gives the Goyim the possibility ty to be free again. Don’t tust Trump a jewish piep piper, he wants to become the jewish dictator in the jewsa. don’t ever trust a jew,

    1. I think you will find that Zionists already control most of the governments in the World. If the US “falls” it will be a bullet-time, slow-motion, all-cameras-rolling, totally fake-show of a kabuki bulls**t collapse, leading to some new bulls**t multipolar world order. With the banksters still in charge. Learn to love the free speech clause of the US: it is the last line of defence for the truth, no matter how compromised.

  6. “Sanctions on Russia have been practically lifted…”

    To the extent that’s true, you’re implying it’s bad? How so?

    “…and our 2,300 troops in Syria found out they will be withdrawn ASAP through social media rather their from their field commanders.”

    If so it may be because the troops won’t actually be leaving Syria, anytime soon at least.
    Orange clown and his jewish-supremacist handlers may just be scamming everyone again. It’s looking more and more contrived/scripted to me and following a familiar pattern: Orange clown makes a dramatic announcement, publicly giving himself credit for trying to do the right thing by following through on a campaign promise (the man of character that he pretends to be) and then, unfortunately, he gets talked out of it again; as usual.

    Perhaps the whole point of this latest Syria withdrawal vignette was to create a diversion; a “fig leaf” to cover the “constructive termination” of Mattis (so he can be replaced with an even more unreasonable person)?

    1. I hope the withdrawal in Syria and Afghanistan isn’t to build up in Ukraine,HP

      ADMIN: If you intend to comment here again, please change your name. We already have a poster called Hp. Can’t have two posters with near identical names (HP and Hp). Too confusing for most readers

  7. President Trump may be unpopular with the elites, but he could be re-elected in 2020. He is trying to get the wall built, and that guarantees millions of votes.

    It is hard to make out any guiding principle in his policies. He promised America First then pushed Israel First.

    I think he is out of his depth on the economy. Trade wars harm the common people.

    1. I just have a feeling that an electoral revolution is sweeping the world. People are now more aware of how stupid and arrogant our leaders are, and they want big changes.

      1. I would post a cynical response but I still believe Brexit was a genuine result, so here’s hopium you are right.

      2. John –

        “….and they want big changes.”

        They got big changes with the iPhones/Androids and apps galore.

        Voting with a phone app in all venues is coming.

        The folks will be satiated even easier & quicker….. or else…. they will have their phones turned OFF!!! A fate worse than death!! 🙂

      3. It isn’t just the stupidity and arrogance of our ruling elites, it is their cowardice in the face of the militant PC crowd, (Led by the BBC). Only one British political party has dared to state the truth, that mass immigration was allowed without the consent of the British people, and that allowing large numbers of people from a different cultures has been a disaster, mainly for the ordinary working class native Brits.

        That party is the National Front. I haven’t voted for them, but when I read their manifesto I agree with every word of it, and I am sure there are an increasing number who would agree.

  8. can’t find people to fill slots in dc?
    so what… better none than more of the same swamp things…
    not enough ambassadors?
    i can’t believe we’ve run out of jews already… they’re the ones who get those spots, and about 90% of the rest of federal government appointments…
    sanctions on russia?
    the idea is to normalize relations and open trade with russia, not continue the deep state bs cold war, so well loved by the super wealthy warmongering beltway crowd… white americans are sick to death of being told the russian people are their enemies, when everybody has known for decades the truth of the pentagon/bankster munitions contracting scam… we want peace with russia, whether intel creeps, theirs and ours, keep engineering adversity incidents or not… trade not sanctions…
    withdrawing troops from syria?
    good, that’s what he said he was going to do when he was running for office… not saying we should walk straight away from everything, but anything the ZOG doesn’t like sounds good to the real americans…
    insulting germany?
    he insults merkel, and he should… real germans wish to god they had somebody to save their country from the immigrant invasion…
    nato?
    nato is at best a sponge that sucks up money, whereas what the world really needs is a peace and cooperation mechanism to take its place… at worst it’s a tool of the culprits, way overextended to the east, on purpose to recklessly aggravate tensions with russia… and no, the europeans don’t pay their fair share…
    ignoring advice?
    hey, it’s lonely at the top… real leaders know that… president tyler fired his whole stinking cabinet…
    border wall?
    a measley 25 billion is a drop in the bucket compared to the national debt… besides, the wall will save us money, even in the short run… illegal aliens have cost california alone a lot more than that already… and the wall will restore order on the big crime scene, blocking the cartels, halting the hard dope flow and human trafficking, saving a lot of innocent lives, like the one below…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HARqWNlRII4
    this story a hoax?
    some say so… if it is true you can bet it would be suppressed anyway…
    sane president?
    maybe it’s the ZOG swamp that’s nutts… the guy is the closest thing to a real president we’ve had in half a century… the border wall is the sanest thing anybody’s come up with in decades… get this – the jews are behind the border chaos, de-nationalization immigrant invasion. so are the catholics… what’s that tell you?
    if you’re going to push people like mahmoud and lee camp, no wonder people think this is a jew troll site…

    1. “border wall?
      a measley 25 billion is a drop in the bucket compared to the national debt… besides, the wall will save us money, even in the short run…”

      Does anyone really believe that all the brouhaha over “the wall” is for real? I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it’s nothing but more of the same embarrassingly disingenuous dialectics.

      Orange clown’s foreign policy has us perhaps one incident away from planetary extinction, yet the actors on the stage keep pushing the wall…the wall…the wall…in front of our faces at every opportunity.

      Vladimir Putin repeatedly warns that “Trump” is trashing the framework of nuclear arms control and putting the whole world at risk, but all we can do in this country is fixate on “the wall.” The wall – which seems to have effortlessly replaced every other standard by which we should be judging orange clown – has taken on an almost supernatural significance, and I am simply in awe at the ease with which “the people” have allowed themselves to be distracted.

      In fact if the-world-as-we-know-it still exists when the next fake presidential election campaign is upon us, I predict that presidential poseur orange clown will finally “win” his fake battle with his fake enemies over the fake wall, and the fake president will triumphantly ride that fake issue to another fake electoral victory over his fake opponents, and all will be well again in the fake universe that our fake masters have created for us.

      “the guy is the closest thing to a real president we’ve had in half a century”

      LOL! (Either that or perhaps he and his handlers operate at a depth of dishonest depravity so deep that most people can’t go there; thus they give him credit for being something that he is not).

  9. Mahmoud :

    Your opinion piece sounds like it was drafted and written-up in Nancy Pelosi’s office. So Mahmoud, tell us what it’s like to work for Nancy Pelosi. Is she a good boss? She pay well? Do you get medical and dental coverage? Paid vacations? If you work past 5 do you get overtime? Does she let you stop what you’re doing 5 times a day so you can pray to Allah and ali baba? Sounds like Nancy Pelosi has, lol, The Highest Respect for Muslims and sounds like the Muslims, or at least one Muslim, you, has The Highest Respect for Nancy Pelosi. Is it true, does she really suffer from dementia and alzheimer’s? 🙃

    1. Joe, you are a Bagel Dog! I told you my affiliation with Nancy Pelosi suppose to be a secret between you and I.
      You betrayed me, Mr. Not So Funny Guy! But, since you spilled the beans I might well tell the rest of the story for the sake of accuracy and in fairness to others on this site who do not know me. It all began about six months before I met Lasha Darkmoon and Sardonidus at The Ugly Truth back in late 2008. That is when I stumbled into the first woman in US history to hold the office of Speaker of the House Now for your reading pleasure, see below who I felt about Plastic Face, Nancy Pelosi:

      https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2007/1/9/288693/-

      https://mail.yahoo.com/d/3/edit/7015985223

  10. carny – thanks..
    harold – maybe so man, but the fact is that securing the border and saving the usa from immigration extinction is real loyal american common sense policy without a doubt, and sound infantry principle as well… make sure your own perimeter is secure and you have control over all the territory inside before you go elsewhere…
    look, i understand people hate trump for his personal style.. i don’t, but i do get it… it’s evident all over the place – people hate the donald so bad they’ll never give him credit for anything, not even for his correct intentions, which in this case harold tries to pretend the whole wall idea is just fake and only a distraction…
    i ain’t buyin that…
    i’d be much more inclined to believe the whole cold war was fake and still is, though it isn’t the case that putin and trump are really part of that deep state plot… i think despite their jewish ties they still both want the whole cold war bs over with, in favor of normalized relations and increased trade… it’s a plot jfk would have put a stop to, and one that never would have gotten off the ground if general patton had survived to be president…
    deep state intel creeps murdered them both, real american heros… now you get the likes of obama…
    what i’m wondering about you harold is – do you want the border secured?
    do you want an end to the immigrant invasion of europe?

    1. @ BARKINGDEER, I believe in giving credit where it is due. You made several valid arguments in your two posts. I was delighted when Trump called for the US troops to withdraw from Syria. I don’t like to see young men and women die in a senseless wars in oversees. If God is in ISISrael’s side, then why does she need the US or NATO to fight its enemies. I happy to see that ISISrael is now a meltdown. No more dirty wars for ISISrael.

    2. “look, i understand people hate trump for his personal style..i don’t, but i do get it… it’s evident all over the place – people hate the donald so bad they’ll never give him credit for anything..”

      I actually don’t know of anyone who hates orange clown for his “personal style.” I hate him because he’s an ignorant, arrogant, lying, mass-murdering, traitorous anti-American jew puppet ruler who had to steal votes to win the election, and who’s now gambling with my life and yours. (BTW I DO give him credit for what he’s done; e.g., taking the world back to the most dangerous days of the cold war for the sake of his handlers Satanic zionist agenda).

      “…not even for his correct intentions, which in this case harold tries to pretend the whole wall idea is just fake and only a distraction…
      i ain’t buyin that…”

      How do you know what his “correct intentions” are? IIRC orange clown stated or implied during the campaign that he was going to make peace with Russia and China; quit the imperial nation-building and warmongering; pull out of NATO; bring the troops home from Afghanistan and Syria; investigate 9/11; put Hillary Clinton in jail; build “the wall”; and just generally make America great again, etc.

      Has he done ANY of it? No; instead he’s made many things worse. Yet you’re going to pick out one thing from this laundry list of hot button campaign issues that the shameless liar used to get himself elected and claim to know he’s sincere about it? After he’s proven himself to be a liar in front of the whole world? Seriously?

      Of course he may ultimately see that “the wall” happens (to some degree, or in some form), but if so it won’t be because he personally gives a dam about “border security”, it’ll be because he thinks it’ll do something for him politically.

      “i’d be much more inclined to believe the whole cold war was fake and still is, though it isn’t the case that putin and trump are really part of that deep state plot… i think despite their jewish ties they still both want the whole cold war bs over with, in favor of normalized relations and increased trade… it’s a plot jfk would have put a stop to, and one that never would have gotten off the ground if general patton had survived to be president…”

      Seriously? How can you possibly suggest that orange clown wants “normalized relations and increased trade” with Russia when every single thing he’s done over the last two years proves that the opposite is the case?

      “what i’m wondering about you harold is – do you want the border secured?
      do you want an end to the immigrant invasion of europe?”

      LOL! That’s like asking a terminal cancer patient what his retirement plans are. Hmmm let’s see, how can I say this emphatically enough? Okay I know: unless orange clown reverses course on foreign policy – as he said he would during the campaign – we’re f***ing doomed. Period. The end. Dead and dying people in a post-apocalyptic nuclear wasteland no longer have a need for a “secure border.”

      But let’s say for the sake of argument that orange clown has some kind of a spiritual epiphany, tells his handlers to get lost, quits the provocations and makes peace with Russia and China. It would then make sense to start looking at things like improving border security, etc.

      That said, Trump’s “wall” seems to be extremely impractical if not a practical impossibility.

      https://www.usatoday.com/border-wall/

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/27/trumps-arguments-about-wall-are-mostly-exaggerated-or-false/?utm_term=.60f76bd59214

      1. When the jews wanted a WALL around Israel, NO BODY said a WALL around Israel would be “extremely impractical” and NO BODY said it would be a “practical impossibility” — and NO BODY said it would be racist. And NO BODY said it would be too expensive.

        And everybody — certainly everybody in Hollywood and Washington — everybody who is opposed to building a WALL on the southern border with Mexico fully supports THE WALL around JEW Israel, and the lawmakers in Washington complaining that a WALL would be too expensive gave the jews BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to the jews so the jews could have a WALL around Israel. Money wasn’t an issue, racism wasn’t an issue, NO BODY said “we should be building bridges NOT walls” — when the jews wanted a WALL around JEW Israel.

      2. The Washington Post is THE MOUTHPIECE for THE DEEP STATE, the very same DEEP STATE that wants a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT with Jerusalem as the political capital of the world, and the whole world should be ruled over by jew mass-murdering mobsters and criminals, warmongers, slave-mongers, thieves and embezzlers, drug pushers and satanists, as per the DEEP STATE — and the Washington Post is THE MOUTHPIECE for the DEEP STATE. USATODAY is full of nothing but tripe and bullshit and lies [ no different than any other newspaper in America ].

      3. First, I’m very, very sorry for posting a link to the Washington post. Being that I was kind of in a hurry, and I didn’t see anything facially unreasonable in the piece, and 2 + 2 = 4 even if a jew says it, I made the foolish decision to cite it rather than pick any of the hundreds if not thousands of similar articles from many different sources saying essentially the same thing.

        That said, Trump is a shameless liar; Trump is a total fraud; at the very least, Trump’s wall is utterly impractical and stupid; that’s because Trump’s wall is just another political hot button that he used to steal votes.

        https://www.cato.org/blog/border-wall-impractical-expensive-ineffective-plan

        https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-wall-impossible-build-architects-2016-11

        https://www.texomashomepage.com/news/local-news/texas-border-city-says-trumps-wall-is-impractical/272819827

        http://www.nationalmemo.com/an-engineer-explains-why-trumps-wall-is-so-implausible/

  11. Regarding the wall, wouldn’t rolls of barbed wire be an effective barrier at only a fraction of the cost of a wall? It worked well in Germany. There was a wall in Berlin, but across most of Germany it was rolls of barbed wire, just laid on the ground.

    1. I like your idea John Kirby! It is much cheaper and more cost effective. I lived in West Berlin in early 1970s and saw the barbed wire separating the city into East and West. Even a dog could not sneak in. I do remember when a dog one time managed to get through, he was shot dead with an AK- 47. It was front page story allover West Berlin. Besides, you can always did a tunnel under the wall or use a ladder to get to the other side.

    2. John –

      Three rows of razor wire at the border works for Koreans….TODAY!!

      US Gov & Trump do not want illegals stopped!!!

      That would decrease debt, Fed Res needs MORE debt!!

      1. Pat, as if today’s drones alone (in reality) can’t monitor, patrol and even defend the entire border with half their rotors, thrusters, Hellfires, M-50’s and Lasers tied behind their back..

  12. Sane like Homo Obama and the First Tranny? Surely you jest. Personally, I think that having a First Lady without balls is a sane thing.

    The US government shuts down rather regularly only for nonessential personnel who get a paid vacation with delayed compensation. It’s no big deal. A really good big deal would be if Trump told all the nonessentials, “Your fired.”

    I see nothing wrong with the Commander in Chief speaking directly to the troops. It keeps everyone on the same page and eliminates the jewish media fog.

    Would it be better that Trump call Trudeau an honest pedophile?

    Trump stated the fact that NATO members are not and have never contributed appropriately.

    There are not trade wars, just fair trade breaking out instead.

    Trump only asked for $5 billion, not $25 billion and then only to expose for everyone to see the Demonrats supporting the UN illegal invasion agenda instead of legal citizens. It’s all show. The Army Corp of Engineers is already working on the wall and are not constrained by a nonexistent budget. Just as in the Obama regime, spending bills were passed, not budgets. Spending bills allow the President to spend the money as he desires.

    Unplug from the jewish media, buy popcorn, and watch the show. A great global awakening is in progress and the New/Jew World Order is getting kicked in the groin as a peaceful tri-poplar world rapidly approaches without the jewish money cartel.

      1. It really is an excellent comment; especially the last paragraph. So the 4D chess player, orange clown, is kicking the jew collective in the groin while Benny Netanyahu and Lindsey Graham sing praises to him? ROTFL! I don’t think I’ve ever laughed so hard. Keep ’em comin’!

      2. So the 4D chess player, orange clown, is kicking the jew collective in the groin while Benny Netanyahu and Lindsey Graham sing praises to him? ROTFL! I don’t think I’ve ever laughed so hard. Keep ’em comin’!

        This is a reasonable comment which Trump’s supporters need to address. If Trump were the new messiah, Trump’s supporters need to explain why Netanyahu is so pleased with him. And they need to explain why Lindsay Graham showers Trump with praise.

        @ Carnaptious

        Addressing a serious comment by an ad hominem insult — “Stupid comment” — doesn’t make the comment stupid.
        It makes YOU stupid.

    1. “Trump only asked for $5 billion, not $25 billion and then only to expose for everyone to see the Demonrats supporting the UN illegal invasion agenda instead of legal citizens. It’s all show.”

      If orange clown and his handlers and fellow travelers in congress were serious about “the wall” they would be doing things like commissioning a serious study on the subject, at least a cost-benefit analysis (by the GAO or something like that) that they could then use to make their case.

      But they’re not doing that. Why? Because they already know that it’s nonsense. Can you imagine a massive government program that involves confiscating a huge chunk of private property from people – involving something like 1200 miles of riverfront property (some of it Indian tribal land which will be seriously contested) – and making the taxpayers pay for it? It would be a catastrophic political blunder.

      This is apparently why they waited until the democrats took control of the house before making a fake issue out of it; they want the democrats to get the blame for no wall.

      As far as orange clown and his handlers and enablers are concerned, the wall was never intended to be anything more than something to talk about – disingenuous campaign rhetoric (just like all the other hot button issues that were exploited) – intended to influence a certain subset of his target audience thought to be susceptible to such manipulation.

  13. harold –
    “If orange clown and his handlers and fellow travelers in congress were serious about “the wall” they would be doing things like commissioning a serious study on the subject, at least a cost-benefit analysis (by the GAO or something like that) that they could then use to make their case.”
    spoken like a true bureaucrat harold…
    and what division of government are you retired from?
    we don’t want a study… we want a secure border… now, not after some study…
    and you might cut the guy a little slack, considering he’s about the only mfer in dirty city who even says he wants the gd wall… how easy for him do you think it will be now.. he was the only candidate to even address the issue, which is why he won, and without him where the hell would we be now? none of the typical corporate predators want the wall, none of the big religious cheeses, none of the corporate politicians want it, nobody in mexico, not the banksters, definitely not the jews… the only people who want the wall are real americans…
    i think trump told his handlers to get lost when he jacked the wall…
    you don’t trust politicians, ok fine… but you sound more like someone who just hates trump because he’s trump…
    you say he doesn’t really mean it about the wall, it’s just a distraction…
    well, that sounds to me like somebody who doesn’t really want the wall either, doesn’t want to admit it’s feasible or even possible…..
    is it?
    and give me a direct answer this time, don’t just throw the russian ww3 threat at me… that’s so tired…

    1. @ barkingdeer

      Harold – “If orange clown and his handlers and fellow travelers in congress were serious about “the wall” they would be doing things like commissioning a serious study on the subject, at least a cost-benefit analysis (by the GAO or something like that) that they could then use to make their case.”

      spoken like a true bureaucrat harold…

      and what division of government are you retired from?

      we don’t want a study… we want a secure border… now, not after some study…LOL!

      I just can’t believe the outrageous comments I’m seeing here. Do you realize what you’re saying?

      So what do you propose, sending the army in to kill all the Indians who won’t voluntarily give up their land? And what are you going to do, dam up all the creeks and tributaries that empty into the Rio Grande? And what about all the animals that depend on the Rio Grande for water? Just kill them? I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but these are legitimate concerns.

      But for the sake of argument let’s forget about all the practical problems for the moment. Do you want “government” throwing your money away without even knowing what it’s buying? Or to put it another way, if you need a new car, do you go out and buy the first one you see, at the asking price, without even looking under the hood?

      I bet you wouldn’t. I bet you’d first try to figure out exactly what you want, then you’d look around and comparison shop to try to get the best deal you can. Yet for some reason here you’re claiming the only legitimate way forward is to mindlessly start throwing money around. You imply there’s no such thing as valid criticism, which is ridiculous.

      Moreover, I’d bet that there are some democrats from the Southwest who really would like to have better border security. And they are probably wondering things like: Why should we go through all the trouble and expense of building a wall when we can hire 250 more border patrol agents and buy 50 million dollars worth of IR equipped drones and get better results?

      How does orange clown respond to a reasonable question like that without having anything to back up his position? He can’t. And that should be a clue that “the wall” is just more of his disingenuous bullshit.

    2. Bark –

      The United States Naval Construction Battalions, better known as the Seabees, which form the Naval Construction Force (NCF) of the United States Navy… could build a 30 foot high wall all long the border in a jiffy. They work while fighting off all armed forces at the same time. Bombs & bullets just encourage them.

      Americans want to be walled in and have the illegals walled out….

      But government lackeys and Fed Res need the crowd… legal& illegal…. to build MORE debt in thousands of ways. Even crime increases debt!!

      Trump is a lackey. All presidents in BIS countries around the globe are!!

      1. They probably could if the money was available, if the property owners were willing to give up the land, if they had physical access to the building site (i.e. roads they could use to deliver the hundreds of thousands of tons of building materials necessary), and if there were no such things as cattle ranches that need access to the Rio Grande, etc.

        I’m having trouble understanding why orange clown’s refusal to defend his assertions (or even to properly define the problem he proposes to solve) in the face of reasonable criticism, should reflect poorly on those who raise the legitimate concerns, and not on orange clown himself.

      2. HS –

        “if the property owners were willing to give up the land”

        No one owns any property here. A deed is a contract to rent via taxes.

        Eminent Domain allows the taking. He stated just that an hour ago in Rose Garden.

        AND… he stated that thru EO he can take it…. if he calls for National Emergency.

        Done deal if he wants it. He does not want it.

  14. ok, i guess we’ve settled that – harold smith doesn’t want the wall..
    i don’t want a wall either, not my first choice…
    and there are lots of good reasons to not actually build a barrier wall, great wall of china..
    but, i do want the border secure… all the hard dope and human trafficking stopped, dead…
    no more bullshitting around with it…
    then watch the heroin panic in san francisco, where the mafia obviously has control of the city politics..
    because – when was the last time you heard of a heroin bust in san francisco, or anywhere?
    i guess it’s still true what was said about the politicians in san francisco 100 years ago, back at the time of the time of the big quake “so crooked they would eat the paint off the side of your house”…
    no wonder they want rid of ice… an open border means continued dope traffic…
    i also want all vicious gang members rounded up in country and deported, if not shot on the spot…
    no more murdered cops…
    trump did some of that, but not nearly enough…
    look – either we build a solid barrier that can’t be breached, or we put the army on the southern border, declare martial law and use deadly force against trespassers… that’s my first choice…
    when the army captures illegal aliens at the border – read them the riot act in whatever language, making it plain they will be shot next time they come across… then burn a brand on the back of their hand, so you’ll know next time you catch the guy, and they’ll know you mean business.. take fingerprints, a dna sample if you want…
    the question is – does harold want the border secure?
    you notice he won’t give a straight answer on that, speaking of politicians…
    i think the answer is – no… harold’s an anti-nationalist globalist, probably an antifa thug…
    as such, his hatred for all things trump makes sense, because trump is not an anti-nationalist globalist, and harold knows it…
    trump may be a stooge for the jews in foreign policy, he may be a jew himself, but it’s possible he still wants the border secure, and sincerely believes – if we have no border we have no country… true enough… i didn’t hear anybody else say that… as long as he’s acting like it, i have to support him on that at least..
    and yes he’s right about equalizing tariffs with china..
    he’s right about bringing the manufacturing back to the usa….
    he’s right about getting rid of nato, or at least making everybody pay up equally…
    and he’s right about detente with putin, making friends with white russia, moving past the deep state lock…
    he’s right about killing obamacare, it’s already zombied…
    he’s right when he busted the big pedophile rings, and there may be a lot more of that on the way, if Q’s right…
    yes you can question his sincerity, which is all people can do…
    trump is after all a billionaire, who probably understands where the the democrats are taking us, down the road to open socialism… i don’t think i want that either… look at california – no chance of electing a republican governor now, not with the way the dems rigged the selection process… red states going blue with immigrants.
    now they’re working on getting rid of the electorial college…
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/39931/breaking-democrats-introduce-bill-eliminate-ryan-saavedra
    all they need is a few million more mexicans and that will be a done deal too…
    “if the money was available”?
    are you kidding?
    the country is about $25,000,000,000,000 in debt now….
    there’s no such thing as money… there really hasn’t been since 1913…
    he can’t throw hillary in jail because she’s in the cia, not yet anyway… presidents no longer have that kind of power… defy the cia/mossad too much and you’ll be killed.. we all know that… and she’s not just in it – she’s one of the big wheels…
    and that just might be what’s on next, now that the operative pelosi will inherit the office, if trump and pence die… ain’t that how that works?

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