Zero chance for freedom in Game Show America

By JOHN KAMINSKI

Ultra rich tighten noose on liberty;
everyone is convinced that fake history is real.

YOU CAN’T SAY  WHAT  YOU WANT TO, CAN YOU?

Today in U.S. public schools, children are being taught to hate themselves and to be ashamed of who they are. Their teachers are demented Communist homosexual ideologues. Why are they doing this? Obviously, it is to make these children something other than what they normally would turn out to be.

For what purpose would they warp a child’s destiny like that? To make them more controllable, to make them more willing and gullible dupes of the state who will never get to learn who is actually running their lives. How can they learn that when their parents don’t even know?

The people who run the world want only one gender — workers.

Change boys into girls and you radically diminish the physical strength and combat readiness of men, making such a country much easier to conquer. Change girls into boys and you seriously jeopardize the reproductive capacity necessary to maintain a healthy population. Both trends sabotage the family structures that are the bulwark of stable societies. Get people all queer and the target group dies out, that’s their formula. Who is responsible for these nefarious trends?

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145 thoughts to “Zero chance for freedom in Game Show America”

  1. Producers & Directors of the “GAME SHOWS” are listed here”

    The 147 Companies That Control Everything

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/bruceupbin/2011/10/22/the-147-companies-that-control-everything/#6a134ba25105

    Three systems theorists at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich have taken a database listing 37 million companies and investors worldwide and analyzed all 43,060 transnational corporations and share ownerships linking them. They built a model of who owns what and what their revenues are and mapped the whole edifice of economic power.

    Top 20:

    1. Barclays plc

    2. Capital Group Companies Inc

    3. FMR Corporation

    4. AXA

    5. State Street Corporation

    6. JP Morgan Chase & Co

    7. Legal & General Group plc

    8. Vanguard Group Inc

    9. UBS AG

    10. Merrill Lynch & Co Inc

    11. Wellington Management Co LLP

    12. Deutsche Bank AG

    13. Franklin Resources Inc

    14. Credit Suisse Group

    15. Walton Enterprises LLC (holding company for Wal-Mart heirs)

    16. Bank of New York Mellon Corp

    17. Natixis

    18. Goldman Sachs Group Inc

    19. T Rowe Price Group Inc

    20. Legg Mason Inc

  2. I have been reading this website for sometime and have never commented. I find Kaminski’s articles consistant to say the least. I am a Jew so I want to be upfront about it. The question that I have is when we ( the jews ) are complete with our plan of plundering the planet, destroying the population, etc, etc I assume we (the jews) will be leaving for the next solar system, next target planet to destroy and species to kill off. Perhaps Mr Kaminski can let me know from where the spaceship leaves. I dont wish to miss it!

    1. @ Ralan

      I will let Mr Kaminski answer your fascinating question, but may I take this opportunity to ask you a related question. Do you Jews genuinely believe in tikkun olam (“the repairing of the world”) and does this not involve establishing a world government run by Jews? And doesn’t the Talmud say that in this Jewish Utopia each Jew will enjoy 10,000 goy slaves?

      In other words, I doubt if Kaminski is saying that Jews want to destroy the world and then move on to the next planet earmarked for destruction. You’re making this up. A strawman’s argument.

      What Jews are after is world domination, not world destruction.

      1. @ Sardonicus

        That was an excellent comment!

        They are apart from us. They are apart from us a thousand times more than the worst racist of our kind is apart from the Negro.

      2. @ SARDONICUS

        I grew up in New York in a family that was not religiously observant. We did belong to an orthodox synagogue where I was Bar Mitzvahed. I did attend hebrew school in preparation for my Bar Mitzvah and studied the Talmud at the time. Not once did the Rabbi or any of the teachers suggest any of what you reference, not ever! I have been in business for over thirty years and have dealt with many large financial institutions and have relationships with both Jewish and non Jewsih bankers. Not once has anyone ever mentioned any of this to me. I have many Israeli friends most of which have varying views on their own countries government and policies (not unlike anywhere else) and not once has any of them mentioned any of this to me. Frankly, the only place I hear of these plans is on sites like this and from writers like Kaminski. You can suggest that I am a plant, strawman or whatever else makes your delusion reality. I can in-fact tell you that none of the jews I know have a clue about this plan to control the world or create some new order of things. We are busy enough just living life and dealing with the challanges it brings everyone both good and bad. If we ( the jews ) were so cunning, devious and smart then why do the arabs have all of the oil?

      3. @ Ralan

        I can see that you are 100 percent sincere in what you say and I wish to compliment you on the politeness and honest objectivity of your comment. Most of the genuine Jews who have posted comments here have generally been men of superior intellect who have kept their cool at all times, unlike the antisemitic extremists who infest this website like a plague of poisonous insects and believe that ALL Jews are equally evil and deserve summary extermination.

        I’d like to assure you that Lasha Darkmoon does not belong in this category of extremists and should not be judged by the largely unmonitored comments that get posted in the Comments section here. She should be judged purely by what she has written in her articles, not by the raving loonies who have latched onto her website and think this is the ultimate neo-Nazi hangout. LD is indeed an “antisemite” if you think it is antisemitic to criticize Israel, question the Holocaust, and believe that 9/11 was largely a Jewish/neoconservative plot.

        If you are unaware of the many Talmud quotations in which non-Jews are vilified by the rabbis who wrote and compiled the Talmud, then that is very strange. The complete Soncino Edition of the Talmud is full of these damning quotations. For example, that Jesus Christ is boiling in hell right now in excrement. (Sometimes the word “semen” is substituted for “excrement”).

        Your answer for this will be, as it is from most Jews: “These are fake quotations — or quotations taken out of context.”

        Trouble is, there are too many such quotations. Hundreds of them! And each quote can be traced to a specific book in the Talmud and to a specific page in the Soncino edition. It’s not just something some crazy antisemites have made up.

        A former friend of Lasha Darkmoon’s (called “Lobro” on this site ) actually visited the big reference library in Bloor Street, Toronto, at LD’s request, a couple of years ago. LD asked Lobro to consult the Library’s 30-volume Soncino edition. This was to check for himself if the vile anti-Christian, anti-gentile statements were actually there. Well, they were! And Lobro photographed the incriminating quotes on each page and emailed the page photos to LD.

        Thus, Simeon Harrarsen, fol.56-D says:”When the Messiah comes, each Jew will have 2800 slaves.”

        You will find this quote @ 3.03 mins in this 7.14 min YouTube video about the Talmud:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVBntNJIDko&has_verified=1

        (or)

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVBntNJIDko

    2. Well said Ralan, but it isn’t ordinary Jews I fear. It is the likes of AIPAC whose grip on the US Congress is such that its members must pledge their support for Israel if they don’t want to be deselected at the next primary. Most Jews are decent people, but if opposing the power of the Jewish Lobby is antisemitic then you can call me antisemitic.

      I think Jews are doing themselves great harm by allowing these Jewish activists to criminalize any comment about Jews and their history as hate speech. I used to believe the official holocaust story but now have strong doubts about it. Does that merit being jailed in many countries?

      1. @ JOHN KIRBY

        I see your point and do not disagree with it, I happen to believe the more traditional history of the holocaust which I learned from my father whose army division liberated several camps. People are entitiled to there opinions and should not be jailed for them. As for AIPAC I see them no different than Grover Norquists ” Americans for Tax Reform ” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Norquist or other powerful lobbying groups such as the NRA. The problem is not AIPAC its the American System which allows money and influence. Most Jews have little what-so-ever to do with AIPAC and until the US system evolves beyond the influence of money there will always be these powerful entities that have a chokehold on the American political system. This is likely wishful thinking and in this regard a new order of things in the US might be needed as the old system is about done.

      2. @ John Kirby

        When the Jews acquired citizenship in White nations they assumed a responsibility to control their nationalistic elements. This obligation has not been fulfilled by them, and the result has been that their nationalistic elements have taken our White countries over.

        The will to rule the world has been a central thought in the minds of the nationalistic Jews for thousands of years, in my opinion. When Jews became citizens they assumed the responsibility to control their elements who wanted destroy the nations they lived in and set up a world government. I submit that 9-11 is proof that Jewish citizenship has led to disaster. There was no anti-Semitism in mainstream America. Still the nationalistic Jews gave us 9-11 and the consequent circumventing of the 4th Amendment which protected us from surveillance.

        I don’t question that most Jews are nice people who are not engaged in our country’s destruction. But wherever you find these nice Jews you also find the Jewish Jews who intend to destroy the nations and rule the world. That is not our fault but theirs. It was their responsibility to keep these people in check.

        I submit that the only way to solve the problem of the Jewish Jews in our midst is to regard the entire Jewish community as being an enemy nation.

      3. Hi Ralan,
        The conditions in the camps in 1945, and indeed in the whole of Germany, were terrible, mainly due to allied bombing. There was scarcely an intact road, railway or power line. So-called “Institutional Diseases” such as Typhus, TB and Dysenteriy, added to cold and starvation to cause a very high death rate.

        During the Civil War at the Andersonville camp in Georgia 13,000 out of 45,000 Union prisoners died of disease..

    3. Never forget, when it serves the Jews’ overall agenda, elite Jews sacrifice their lesser brethren in a heartbeat. Note what elite American and British Jews did to their brethren in Germany in WWII. Germany was expatriating Jews out of Germany, with their wealth and possessions, under the Haavara Agreement. Elite Jews could not bear the thought of an advanced European nation being devoid of Jewish occupation, so at the behest of the Rothschild money interest, Britain began the war, trapping remaining Jews inside Germany. This in turn led to the major expansion of the concentration camp system. As the war progressed, concentration camp prisoners by and large fared better than Germany’s civilian population. Elite Jews knew the truth about the camps; that Germans treated prisoners humanly. Their thanks for this was the Hallowedhoax lie that has served as a psychological beat down of the German people for more than seventy years.

      Jews are infamous for holding entire races and nations responsible for their leaders’ actions. Witness the horror recently meted out to Iraq and Libya. From the Jewish mafia that murders the entire families of their enemies, to the Judeocommunist Nuremberg show trials that served to convict an entire nation of war crimes, Jews have savaged innocents surrounding their enemies. Not only that, this Jewish penchant for “never forgive, never forget” spans across history. Once Jews suffer a perceived wrong, they mercilessly pursue revenge against the transgressors until they wipe them out. No doubt, what is presently happening in Britain is, at least in part, revenge for King Edward’s “Edict of Expulsion” of July 1290.

      When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it. And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee. And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it: And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee. Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations. But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth: But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee: That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God. – Deuteronomy 20

      Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. [ . . .] And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt. And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword. Samual 1 15

      This mindset for vengeance murder has led to the most egregious “crimes against humanity.” A thoroughly Jewish concept, such “crimes” (many invented), have long been a favorite outcry Jews level against others, but which are in fact a projection of the Jewish mindset on their enemies. Think not? Here then is there any outcry over the Jews outrageous crimes against Palestinian humanity?

      Jews made the rules that western civilization is forced it live by, to wit – it’s either you goy or us Jews. The two of us cannot, and will not, exist on this planet together. Therefore I ask, why should non-Jews take a different view? ALL Jews should be held responsible for the atrocities they have committed against humanity since the beginning of their Biblical history. Just as Jews did with Germans after WWII war, Jews should likewise be given a fair trial and then taken out and hung.

      As I have long said, if ten percent of the goy population ever wakes up to the Jews’ historical reality, not one will remain alive by the end of the week. Jews know this that is why increasing internet exposure of the Jew’s true nature has once again bought the world to the brink of war. It’s the Jews’ infamous “Samson Option,” i.e. If Jews cannot own the world, then in the best Biblical they will destroy it utterly with fire by nuclear holocaust – a terror weapon created by Jews.

    4. Ralan,
      Welcome to Darkmoon. Donaldo has Jewish blood. Never made it a secret. Why should we? It’s our heritage. Donaldo has stated endlessly that the majority of World Jewry has absolutely nothing to do with some far-fetched agenda to enslave 1000 goy for each one of us. The average Jew just wants to get on with life like Donaldo. Drink, eat, have sex and be merry. These are Donaldos mottos. Sure, there are extremists in the Jewish camp. Also in the Islamic camp. The AGENDA is being driven by people who claim to be Jews but in fact aren’t Jews at all. Jesus Christ even said the same. It’s in the Bible. Donaldo has also stated that labels are irrelevant. What’s relevant is administration of justice to criminals of all stripes. None of the ills facing the World today could happen if law enforcement did its job. Where is “Lucky Larry” now? Sure ain’t in prison. Not free because he’s a Jew. He’s free because law enforcement allows it. He’s an “elitist”…above the law. Just like Hillary and Bill……etc. The list goes on. Anyway, Ralan. Develop a thick skin. Certainly no shortage of posters on this site who don’t understand Jews or anything else for that matter. Bienvenido. Welcome. Chalom.

    5. My personal experience in the past has been with secular Jews and I actually used to get on with many of them fairly well, some of whom I counted as close friends, and had no complaints, although some were a little weird and not quite right in the head, but many were just fine. And some of them were anti-Zionist and opposed to Israel. Even many Zionist Jews I used to know I got on well with and was close to even though I disagreed with their politics, and it was I who broke off our friendship being intolerant of their Zionist activities.

      So you could say I did not become anti-Jewish from personal experience, although many Jews sure are obnoxious, especially Israeli tourists, but then you just ignore them or keep away from them, but rather from investigating their role in society, world affairs, history, etc. and because of my sympathy for the Palestinian victims of Zionism. And I have to say that my personal experiences with Palestinians have been mixed, and I have known some extremely corrupt, immoral, untrustworthy and unethical Palestinians, even among the better off and influential, but I’ve known many decent and honest Palestinians too.

      Be as it may I know very little about the Orthodox Jews, but I believe they’re not all the same. I really haven’t bothered to investigate but hopefully Ralan can explain. Apparently there are some Orthodox Jews who are vehemently anti-Zionist and opposed to the existence of the state of Israel. They may also be for the promotion of traditional family values and opposed to this moral degeneracy of post modern society. I’d like to know how widely such Jews are represented in the orthodox Jewish community. As I say I’m not versed in such matters but I’d think these traditional anti-Zionist Jews would not be lobbying for Israel or funding Zionist and other immoral and degenerate causes. I don’t know if it would be fair to hate on them just for being Jews, even if they hate goys, as long as they keep to themselves and are not damaging society in any way.

  3. Kaminski complains very well, but there is no fight to him. His position is that all is lost.

    I think things are starting to go our way.

    By the way, what’s a “game show”? Does it have something to do with television?

  4. I don’t think they need workers, not even the cheap ones in China they turned to when outsourcing overseas for greater profits.

    Read about the new Huawei plant which employs only 17 workers to produce more than 2 million mobile phones each month:

    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1136247.shtml

    It’s more likely that they just want to get rid of people and from that standpoint this homo/trans promotion makes sense, but why target the white race first which is anyway in demographic decline due to falling birth rates, instead of those that reproduce the most?

    1. @ Commentator Mike

      Why do they target the White race? Because the White man alone has it in him to beat them in a fight.

  5. Game Shows or Real Shows??

    Can Algorithms Run Things Better Than Humans?

    Welcome to the rise of the algocracy.

    Are you willing to trust your life and liberty to emerging algorithmic governance technologies such as Rekognition?

    The activities and motives of a police officer or bureaucrat can be scrutinized and understood by citizens. But decisions made by ever-more-complex algorithms trained on vast data sets likely will become increasingly opaque and thus insulated from public oversight. Even if the outcomes seem fair and beneficial, will people really accept important decisions about their lives being made this way—and, as important, should they?
    https://reason.com/archives/2018/12/16/can-algorithms-run-things-bett

    Nascent facial recognition technologies such as Amazon’s Rekognition, IBM’s Watson Visual Recognition, and Microsoft’s Azure Face API in the U.S. and Megvii and SenseTime in China are still quite clunky, but they’re improving rapidly. In August, the Department of Homeland Security began rolling out its Traveler Verification Service (TVS).

    To verify passengers are who they claim to be, the system matches photographs taken by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) cameras at airports with a cloud-based database of photos previously captured by the CBP during entry inspections, photos from previous encounters with Homeland Security, and photos from the Department of State, including U.S. passport and U.S. visa photos. The agency claims that TVS inspection cuts the wait in security checkpoint lines in half.

    1. “Nick Bostrom, at Oxford, made the case in his 2014 book Superintelligence that a badly designed AI system will be impossible to correct once deployed: “once unfriendly superintelligence exists, it would prevent us from replacing it or changing its preferences. Our fate would be sealed.””

      The last game show?

      1. “once unfriendly superintelligence exists, it would prevent us from replacing it or changing its preferences. Our fate would be sealed.”

        Sounds like the Jews according to Kaminski. No need for AI, unless to save us from them. But I doubt Indian techs will come up with that algorithm.

      2. One of the fear with AI is that it would use consensus as fact and truth. The DELPHI Technique, first presented and utilized by RAND Corp, would become the source for setting the rules.
        https://www.rand.org/topics/delphi-method.html

        DELPHI – the new method of Majority (of experts) Rule.
        Democracy at its worst! The baby would be cut in half, or worse, if that were to be the consensus.

        RAND developed the Delphi method in the 1950s, originally to forecast the impact of technology on warfare. The method entails a group of experts who anonymously reply to questionnaires and subsequently receive feedback in the form of a statistical representation of the “group response,” after which the process repeats itself. The goal is to reduce the range of responses and arrive at something closer to expert consensus. The Delphi Method has been widely adopted and is still in use today.

  6. Don’t believe the myths of the jews as the jews always do invent them like Ralan does. He lies jews at home have learnt to see others especially Goyim as enemies. Watch out for the Goyim their parents learn them. What do you think about their ‘ feasts’ like Purim celebrating over a Goy more than 3000 years ago. When a jew meets a Goy ihe is always seizing him up. Jews never, are relaxed always acting. Jews are liars. All.

  7. @ Sardonicus

    In Ralan’ comment to John Kirby, Ralan writes “people are entitled to there opinions.” He used “there” for “their.” How often do you make that mistake? Isn’t this an indication of someone to whom English is a second language? Yet you trust this guy. You trust this guy, who might well be an Israeli engaged in cognitive infiltration, while at the same time you call patriots who live in a nightmare world because of what they see happening to their country “antisemitic insects.” I think you are okay, but isn’t that screwed up?

    1. There/their???? I know it should be their but my fingers type there. I wish I had a dollar for every time I have made that typo.

      Ralan is right, in that most Jews are not anti-gentile, but some, (especially the frummers), are.

      All races have their own nut cases. Gentiles have a few fundamentalist preachers and moslems have a few homicidal jihadists.

      It is just that the Jews have managed to control the media, the money and the Congress, and that is not good for the rest of us.

      1. True, often when I type on my phone I make mistakes. John K is right, most ultra orthodox Jews are anti others, not all but many. I would venture to say that even though I was Bar Mitzvahed in an orthodox synagogue the fact that I am not observant most frum Jews would consider me an outsider. It is also true that jews have lots of business interests and influence certain industries to a degree. However, no more than Warren Buffett, Bill Gates , Carlos Slim and many other non jewish powerful business men and women do. Sinclaire Broadcasting is the largest owner of TV stations in the US founded and controled by a non jewsih family. Most people still watch their local news. Many of my friends are sick of the bias of cable news and don’t watch it anymore. Yes the NY Times was founded and is controlled by a Jewish family, so what, does this mean that all media is controlled by Jews. The NYT is a liberal paper and not all jews are liberal. Help me to undertstand the idea behind the financial case for which the jews control and are to blame for what ? I know all I need to about the RothChilds however that was then and this is now. What about JP Morgan and the Rockefeller’s and their influence over the modern economy as it shaped in the 20th century. The largest and most powerful investors in the world today are the sovereign wealth funds. The largest of these are controlled by Muslims. The Saudia Royal family for one. The Arab emirates, etc. Its a long list, How do they fit into this equation of the Kabal ? I get the debt problem we have and dont like it anymore than anyone else who is concerned about their children and grandchildren. I fail to see how the jews are behind this. Most influencial jews are moderate and not observant. Most have no idea why writers like John Kaminski thinks as he does. Im sorry but I cannot wrap my mind around 9/11being anythjng other than what it was. I also believe we landed on the moon in ’69. I personally know a family that lost a child in the parkland school shooting in Florida but that did not happen either, right. I know how I was raised and what I was taught and respect of others was top of the list.

      2. I wish you would go on posting here if only for this reason: you are helping us to see things from a different perspective and your sincerity cannot be doubted for a moment. You clearly do not fulfil the antisemitic stereotype of the “Evil Jew” who wants to take over the world and screw the goyim. I will say more later. Now is not the time as I have to go out. Here’s hoping that someone will else will have time to address the important points you have made in defense of the Jews.

    2. Kendra,

      Maybe I am a bit screwed up. Aren’t we all? Sometimes I feel like Diogenes who went round the streets of Ancient Athens in broad daylight, with a lantern, looking for one honest man. And he couldn’t find one!

      Well, I’m not looking for an honest man. I’m looking for a sane, “normal”, well-balanced man. Normal folk are hard to find, Kendra, and even harder to find them among women! 🙂

      I see the world as an insane asylum in which the patients are in charge and the doctors are imprisoned behind bars.

      1. Sardonicus, if you were to show up at my home seeking a discussion as per the search for an honest man, I’d invite you in for tea and a chat. Good medicine.

        If Diogenes were to show up at my house ranting and raving and peeing on my flowers, in his search for an honest man, I’d take a stick to him. The best medicine for a fool.
        And pretty darn honest..

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  9. Am I the only one who can see that what the jewish collective is doing to the world is an awful lot like the Satanic agenda set forth in Isaiah 14: 13,14?

    Orange clown may be the last “man” to hold the office of president of the U.S. (the second beast of Rev 13:11, aka the eyes and mouth of the “little horn” of Daniel 7:8); in which case he may be what the Bible refers to as the “false prophet” of Rev 19:20.

    1. Harold
      I suppose Isaiah 14:13,14 could be construed to mean the potential fulfillment of Agenda-21

      It’s said in some circles that Rev.13:11 is about the revival of the Beast (Judaism) via the Reformation, largely due to Martin Luther’s “work” against the Church. The Protestant movement followed, and thereafter the Beast had “two horns” (the Catholic and Protestant arms of the Beast)

      As for Rev.19:20, I would say this verse is fraudulent, in that it’s not part of John’s divinational vision. More Biblical deception.

      1. Harold

        While it’s certainly legitimate to criticize Trump, as should be the case with the vast majority of politicians who are essentially in the “back pockets” of the Godfather (i.e.; primarily elite jew bankers), you make assignations on him as with references from the Book of Revelation that go way over the top.

        You DO see that, right?

      2. @ Brownhawk

        “While it’s certainly legitimate to criticize Trump . . . you make assignations on him as with references from the Book of Revelation that go way over the top.”

        I laughed when I read that. You are misusing the word “assignations”. The word you want is “accusations” or “aspersions”. You are guilty of what is known as a malapropism, the first time I’ve come across such an amusing specimen on this website.

        The word “malapropism” derives from a character called “Mrs Malaprop” in an 18th century play by Sheridan called “The Rivals”. She keeps coming out with these howlers, e.g, she says, “Illiterate him from your memory” (instead of “obliterate”), and “She’s as headstrong as an allegory on the banks of the Nile” (instead of alligator). 🙂

        As you must know, “assignation” means a secret meeting, usually between lovers.

      3. “…you make assignations on [Trump] as with references from the Book of Revelation that go way over the top. You DO see that, right?”

        No, I don’t see it that way at all.

        First, I believe I would recognize Trump’s evil for what it is even there were no Book of Revelation.

        Second, I don’t think you understand exactly what’s going on in the world today, i.e., what the jewish collective is doing. I don’t think you’re seeing the “big picture” here.

        Did you ever notice the insatiable nature of evil? That is, how a greedy person can never have enough money; or how a pervert can never sate his lust? Regardless of how evil presents itself, insatiability seems to always be a factor. Apparently it’s something inherent to the nature of evil.

        I think this is one way to look at Isaiah 14:13,14 ; you can say the insatiability of evil is a spiritual axiom. Thus if evil exists on this planet, it must ultimately have the whole planet; there’s no room for compromise because evil cannot ultimately coexist with good.

        I believe this is a discoverable truth; that is, you don’t necessarily need the Bible to arrive at this conclusion, you can arrive at this conclusion by observation and reasoning.

        Moreover, history shows that some people are willing to fight and die to protect their freedom and their way of life, right? So if evil can never stop and some people are willing to fight and die to resist it, then how is the world NOT headed for disaster?

        I am forced to conclude that the damage that evil can and will ultimately do in its quest for complete world domination and control is limited only by “hardware.” So if nuclear weapons exist, my reasoning says they will ultimately be used, unfortunately.

        Finally what about orange clown? Where does the evil clown fit into this scenario? It’s very simple. Since the evil cannot stop, the servants of evil must wax worse and worse as the stakes get higher and higher. IOW all the low hanging fruit in the world has already been picked, so further expansion of the evil empire will come only at a much greater cost and risk.

        Thus the empire needs servants who are ultimately willing to risk planetary extinction, if need be, in pursuit of the agenda.

        Yes Obama and Clinton were evil too, but how evil? I have no doubt that Clinton wouldn’t have a problem killing lots of people in far away places, but could she give the orders that might kill her own grandchildren?

        Trump’s where he is for a reason: And the reason is, apparently, that he’s the most evil person the elders could find.

      4. I should say something else about the evil orange clown. I believe that the moving of the embassy to Jerusalem – something none of his predecessors were instructed to do – was a revelatory act of special significance; even Biblical significance. It was sort of a formal “coming out”. Apparently only orange clown was found “worthy” (evil enough) to move the embassy, thus revealing to the world exactly who’s running things and who his masters are.

      5. Haha

        Ya got me, GF. I should’ve acted on my instinct wid dat one. Sumpin dint look write an I dint, doh. My bad! 😜

      6. Not to worry, Brownhawk. Your comments are brilliant and I can see you are much loved on this site which is your natural habitat. As for myself, I have been guilty of great howlers in my time, mostly in the field of pronunciation. I keep mispronouncing words. At a crucial job interview many years ago, I mispronounced a common word. much to the scorn of the interviewer. As a result, I didn’t get the job.

      7. Harold
        Properly interpreting the book of Revelation is a tricky business, but in doing so regarding Trump you aligned him with a passage that is inaccurate IMV.

        Also, for you to say I don’t understand the big picture of what’s going on in this world is insulting. How you arrive at that, or to question my grasp at the nature of evil tells ME that my understanding eludes you. Why not just say THAT?

      8. GF –

        Sheridan used Latin to invent the name of his character.

        mala – bad, evil, wicked (malady is derived)
        propono – display, propose, put or place (proposal is derived)

      9. Pat

        I love malapropisms. Yogi Berra is probably the most famous person regarding them, but do you remember the comedian, Norm Crosby? He made using them his whole schtick. Hilarious. 😂

      10. @ Brownhawk

        “Properly interpreting the book of Revelation is a tricky business, but in doing so regarding Trump you aligned him with a passage that is inaccurate IMV.”

        Okay, so despite my hundreds of hours of studious research and soul searching, you apparently understand the Book of Revelation better than I do. Fair enough; perhaps you do. But can you elaborate and tell me exactly which parts I’ve misconstrued?

        “Also, for you to say I don’t understand the big picture of what’s going on in this world is insulting. How you arrive at that, or to question my grasp at the nature of evil tells ME that my understanding eludes you. Why not just say THAT?”

        Well I actually didn’t mean it to be insulting. I think you are wrong, and given the extreme circumstances we find ourselves in (a nuclear war with Russia could start tomorrow) I was merely being blunt. (Have you been following any of the recent statements made by Putin and Lavrov? I can tell you that they’re apparently starting to see the madness of the demon-possessed mdmen running things in the corrupt West).

      11. Harold

        I think Putin and co. have been well-aware of the madness in the West all along, but if you’ve been following what for YEARS has been my general take on matters such as these you’d understand what I mean by these leaders being “steered” in a direction where (((they))) want to lead. This involves keeping all the players on tenderhooks and acting accordingly as the greater plan for Agenda-21 goes full speed ahead.

        In my unique view of things I see both “East” and “West” as being backed by what I’ll refer to as disparate interests headed primarily by elite jews at the top of their respective banking cabals. Once the COMMON interest of Agenda-21 is fulfilled, THIS is when the real action of all-out war between the two factions will commence in a final battle (“Armageddon”) for all the spoils.

        To me, there are no sides to back between a clash of titans who have a commonality of reflecting statist control in what is inexorably headed to a condition in this world where a concept of human freedom becomes foreign and is probably gonna have to wait for the dust to settle….if these two factions don’t annihilate the whole planet after annihilating themselves, that is.

        As for the Book of Revelation, in an earlier post on this thread I’ve already elaborated on the area in particular where I think you’ve misconstrued – it pertains to the issue of the “two horns”. Read it again. Other than that, all I’ll say for now is that I think much of Revelation doesn’t necessarily concern the area of prophecy, but instead concerns what the title conveys, which is to REVEAL things such as what may be the correct interpretation of the Rev. 13:11 regarding the 2 branches of Judaism – Catholicism and Protestantism.

        “By way of deception will (((we))) rule”

      12. @ Brownhawk

        “I suppose Isaiah 14:13,14 could be construed to mean the potential fulfillment of Agenda-21.”

        Isaiah 14:13,14 is all about “a non-binding action plan of the UN with regard to sustainable development” (from Wikipedia)? Seriously?

        I really don’t know how to respond to this assertion (without coming across as being unfriendly/insulting) so I’ll just ask you a question: Do I infer correctly that you don’t believe in the existence of a “spiritual realm”?

        “It’s said in some circles that Rev.13:11 is about the revival of the Beast (Judaism) via the Reformation, largely due to Martin Luther’s “work” against the Church. The Protestant movement followed, and thereafter the Beast had “two horns” (the Catholic and Protestant arms of the Beast).”

        Well, lots of things are said in lots of circles, but I’ve found that most such opinions are little more than bare assertions which generally cannot withstand the slightest logical scrutiny. For example, in what sense can “Judaism” be like a “man” as per Rev 13:18? And how does it coincide with Daniel 7:8? And if Judaism is the second beast of Rev 13 (Rev 13:11) then what’s the first beast?

        “As for Rev.19:20, I would say this verse is fraudulent, in that it’s not part of John’s divinational (sic) vision. More Biblical deception.”

        LOL! I think this discussion is rather pointless. (BTW is “divinational” even a word? You’re going to give poor Grammar Fiend a heart attack).

      13. Harold

        Thank you for indirectly correcting me with regards to my saying you were smug a few months ago. Now I know a better word to use is….PRIG! 😆

      14. Harold old chap

        1) well excuuuuuuse me! Make that “divinatory”
        2) Your inference is incorrect. Do you really believe you hold all the cards in defining “spiritual realm”?
        3) Insofar as what does or doesn’t withstand logical scrutiny, if you’re basing assertions towards that end on passages from the book of Revelation, then I’m afraid all you’re doing is attempting to successfully mix batches of spotted paint! Good luck with that 😄

      15. @ Brownhawk

        “Thank you for indirectly correcting me with regards to my saying you were smug a few months ago. Now I know a better word to use is….PRIG!”

        It’s not a matter of “smug” or “prig.”

        I’ve spent literally hundreds of hours studying Biblical prophecy; looking up obscure books written by jews; studying Karl Marx’ poetry and his communist manifesto; making pages of notes, e.g. comparing the various ways that Satan – and Satan’s agent in the physical realm – might be said to mock God; researching various aspects of WW2, e.g. statements made by influential jews and Germans; studying the eschatological views of various Biblical scholars; etc., etc., etc., finally arriving at a view of Biblical prophecy that I can support with an argument…and then you come along and try to refute my statements…not with your own reasoned argument, but by glibly proffering the bare assertion of some third party. And when I don’t take it seriously, you’re offended.

        I give up.

      16. @ Harold Smith

        Don’t give up. There are other people apart from Brownhawk who are listening to what you have to say. In a sense, any attempt to reason with the likes of Brownhawk from your vantage point of superior knowledge, based on years of painstaking research, is like casting pearls before swine. Take pride in the fact that there is always an intelligent minority that is anxious to learn and listen.

      17. @ Brownhawk

        “2) Your inference is incorrect. Do you really believe you hold all the cards in defining ‘spiritual realm’?”

        Honestly, prior to this discussion with you, I would’ve opined that I didn’t “hold all the cards.” But now in light of your assertion that Isaiah 14:13,14 is all about “agenda 21,” for example, I’m starting to feel that I actually do hold all the cards…

        “3) Insofar as what does or doesn’t withstand logical scrutiny, if you’re basing assertions towards that end on passages from the book of Revelation, then I’m afraid all you’re doing is attempting to successfully mix batches of spotted paint! Good luck with that”

        Well if the subject under discussion is the interpretation of Rev 13 and/or various parts thereof, and you claim that Rev 13:11 means a certain thing, then whatever thing you say it is has to be in agreement with the other descriptive features, right?

        For example, you said the beast Rev 13:11 was a reference to “Judaism” right? If that claim is to be taken seriously you have to show how “Judaism” can be said to “have the number of a man” as per Rev 13:18.

      18. Harold
        It sounds like you’re making a presumption by not considering that like you, I’ve done my OWN research of those very same subjects which lead me to making my OWN conclusions. The 3rd party I referred to by using the term “schools of thought”, or alluding to “various circles” simply REFLECTS that, and from which a series of reasoned arguments can be implied. If these conclusions differ from the ones you’ve arrived at, then why WOULDN’T I refute them?
        P.S. I said Isaiah 14:13,14 MAY reflect that which alludes to Agenda-21. This isn’t as far-fetched as you think when trying to interpret the likes of Biblical passages

      19. (Have you been following any of the recent statements made by Putin and Lavrov? I can tell you that they’re apparently starting to see the madness of the demon-possessed mdmen running things in the corrupt West)

        Putin and Lavrov are apparently starting (only STARTING – this is precious :-)) to see what the bible-thumper have been seeing since he opened the holy book!

        It never fails to fascinate me how can in a grown man’s head arise this childish belief that he knows something that the man who is calculatingly, systematically, methodically, cunningly (pick your choice) waging a life-or-death fight not just for himself but for the entire nation of more than one-and-a-half thousand years long history of survival does not know. It does not occur to the bible-thumper that such a leader of such a nation MUST necessarily have and necessarily HAS sources of information that the bible-thumper cannot even imagine in his wildest dreams. And he boasts his mastery of logic and common sense! Truly fascinating.

        Put the Bible aside for a second, dummy, and listen to the man’s Munich Speech of 2007

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ58Yv6kP44

        Definition of bible-thumper: an evangelist or other person who quotes the Bible frequently, especially as a means of argument, exhortation or rebuke.

      20. Azura

        Harold’s vantage point of “superior knowledge” is seriously skewed by the fact that so much of the vision of John of Patmos has been tampered with, resulting in an inability for most people to discern where the truth of his vision lies.

        For now I’ll simplify things by stating flatly that the “beast” is the Christian Church. Jesus Christ and “Christianity” are in effect complete opposites

      21. Brownhawk,

        There are as many interpretations of the Book of Revelations as there are interpreters. You should show some respect for Harold Smith’s opinion because it is based on long and arduous research, whereas I can’t help feeling that your own knowledge of this subject is superficial in comparison. Practice more humility, sir, and show some respectful deference to genuine biblical scholars like Harold Smith. Eschatology is a subject he has studied painstakingly for many years. Have you? I seriously doubt it.

      22. “Putin and Lavrov are apparently starting (only STARTING – this is precious :-)) to see what the bible-thumper have been seeing since he opened the holy book!”

        Yes, based on their recent remarks, they are apparently STARTING to see the madness of the demon-possessed madmen running things in the corrupt West. After all, Putin was still supporting the U.S. government’s preposterous 9/11 narrative long after the average peasant in the U.S. realized it was a lie. BTW what’s a “bible-thumper”? You? And what does the Bible have to do with Putin and Lavrov finally seeing what’s been painfully obvious to many people since 9/11 for example?

        “It never fails to fascinate me how can in a grown man’s head arise this childish belief that he knows something that the man who is calculatingly, systematically, methodically, cunningly (pick your choice) waging a life-or-death fight not just for himself but for the entire nation of more than one-and-a-half thousand years long history of survival does not know.”

        Well don’t be too hard on yourself, junior, everybody makes mistakes (although you do seem to make quite a few more than everybody else).

        “It does not occur to the bible-thumper that such a leader of such a nation MUST necessarily have and necessarily HAS sources of information that the bible-thumper cannot even imagine in his wildest dreams.”

        Okay Mr. Bible-thumper, I think I can help you figure this out. Since Mr. Putin would obviously have access to the same public domain information that long ago convinced Joe Sixpack of the U.S. government’s 9/11 treachery, we can say that Mr. Putin’s long-standing adamantine incredulity has nothing to do with the amount or quality of the “information” he has access to, right? I mean if Joe Sixpack can look at the collapse of WTC7, for example, and realize that it was a controlled demolition, why can’t Mr. Putin?

        “Put the Bible aside for a second, dummy, and listen to the man’s Munich Speech of 2007”

        Knucklehead, long after that speech Putin was still publicly supporting the U.S. government’s obviously false 9/11 narrative. Bashing the corrupt U.S. government and its vassal states for the illegitimate use of force, for seeking hegemony/unipolarity, etc., is not the same thing as coming to the realization that your enemies are demon-possessed madmen who cannot be reasoned with under any circumstances. Evil is a matter of degree, and the Russian leadership apparently did not until very recently understand or accept the degree/depth of demon-possessed depravity of their deadly implacable enemies…who are now undeniably demonstrating a willingness to risk planetary extinction in pursuit of their agenda.

        Mr. Putin probably held out hope that his speech of March 01, 2018 (during which he unveiled an array of “game changing” new weapon systems with no analog in the West) would cause his enemies to rethink what they’re doing. But what happened instead? Rather than accept the futility of their plans and start negotiating anything, team orange clown dug in their heels, vowed to create a “space force”; vowed to achieve global nuclear supremacy; vowed to pull of of the INF treaty (implying an intent to surround Russia with missiles based in Europe); etc.

        “And he boasts his mastery of logic and common sense! Truly fascinating.”

        Please point out where I “boast” about anything. BTW I’m sorry that my frequent resort to “logic and common sense” has so offended your gentle jewish-supremacist sensibilities.

        “Definition of bible-thumper: an evangelist or other person who quotes the Bible frequently, especially as a means of argument, exhortation or rebuke.”

        I didn’t create this universe; nor did I have anything to do with the origin of the Bible; nor did I even ask to be born into the world. But here I am, on a doomed planet hurling aimlessly through space, with nuclear-armed madmen threatening to unleash a nuclear holocaust on the whole world unless the whole world agrees to be enslaved by them. So please forgive me if I seek to use the modest faculties I was involuntarily born with to try to make some sense of this situation i find myself in.

        Perhaps you can henceforth do us both a favor by keeping your perverse jewish-supremacist eyes off of my comments.

      23. @ Brownhawk

        “It sounds like you’re making a presumption by not considering that like you, I’ve done my OWN research of those very same subjects which lead me to making my OWN conclusions.”

        Well I don’t have to “presume” the obvious; I merely acknowledge it. And I have to take your claim that the second beast of Rev 13 (i.e. as per Rev 13:11 and following verses) is “Judaism” as obvious proof that you’ve done no serious research.

        “The 3rd party I referred to by using the term ‘schools of thought’, or alluding to ‘various circles’ simply REFLECTS that, and from which a series of reasoned arguments can be implied.”

        It doesn’t really help to imply that you have a reasonable argument; if you want to be taken seriously you’ll have to actually propound it.

        “If these conclusions differ from the ones you’ve arrived at, then why WOULDN’T I refute them?”

        I can only guess; maybe because they’re your assertions?

        “P.S. I said Isaiah 14:13,14 MAY reflect that which alludes to Agenda-21. This isn’t as far-fetched as you think when trying to interpret the likes of Biblical passages”

        It’s beyond far-fetched; since these verses clearly refer to Lucifer/Satan, it’s nonsensical.

      24. @ Brownhawk

        With all due respect, I cannot help feeling that Harold Smith’s comments on the Book of Revelation — and on the passage in Isaiah which clearly refers to Satan — make a lot more sense than anything you have said on this subject.

        Your dismissal of Harold Smith as a “Bible thumper”, for no other reason than the fact that he has studied the Bible long and hard and comments on it, is as foolish as it is demeaning to yourself. You are perhaps unaware that one of the greatest scientists in the world, Isaac Newton, spent more time researching and commenting on the Bible than he spent in writing about Science. So why don’t you describe Newton as a “Bible thumper”?

        In researching and commenting on the Bible, Harold Smith is simply following in the noble footsteps of Newton.

        Please don’t respond to this comment if your only object in doing so is to annoy me, as you have annoyed Harold Smith.

      25. Azura
        The whole nub of the problem with trying to interpret the book of Revelation involves its wording in extant Bibles. My understanding is that most of the lines in them alleging to reflect a true representation of Patmos John can be stricken. Then there’s the matter of putting the ones which are legitimate into a proper context. Hence my use of the term “mixing batches of spotted paint”. It’s impossible.

        So it begs the question: From what sources CAN or COULD a proper interpretation be GLEANED? While of course I can’t claim mine to be infallible, at the very least, what I write SHOULD prompt the serious thinker to broaden their search with this material in mind, and hopefully reach certain conclusions that move them closer to the truth

      26. Harold
        A final word to the (not so) wise: There’s nothing “obvious” about ANY of this. So do yourself a big favor and train your brain to think accordingly 🤔

      27. @ Azura

        Thanks for the kind words!

        I mention these ideas as I feel I have a moral and a patriotic duty to share them for what they’re worth. I don’t claim to have all the answers, and I’m open to honest/valid criticism. And if I have a duty to share them – for the benefit of anyone else interested in the subject matter – I also have a duty to defend them (especially against dishonest or badly misinformed criticism). I think you understand exactly where I’m coming from, but some here apparently don’t.

      28. @ Brownhawk

        “A final word to the (not so) wise: There’s nothing “obvious” about ANY of this. So do yourself a big favor and train your brain to think accordingly”

        We’re talking about Isaiah 14:13,14, and it’s textually demonstrable from the preceding verses that these verses refer to Lucifer/Satan. It’s right there in black and white. If you’re disputing that you’re just being contrary, and it’s time for me to stop wasting time arguing such absurdities with you.

      29. A reference to Lucifer/Satan. Big whoop. In what CONEXT?! Not to mention just who IS Lucifer/Satan in said context.
        What’s obvious is that your making my previous POINT of nothing BEING obvious!

      30. @ Brownhawk

        So far in this “discussion” you’ve told me the Bible has been tampered with, it’s full of errors, and you’ve implied that it’s incomprehensibly ambiguous (to the point of being meaningless, apparently) and in one of your comments you clearly implied that “it’s impossible” to understand the Book of Revelation.

        This poses the obvious question: Why would you bother with the Bible in the first place? Seriously, why waste time with something that’s so defective in so many ways? I know I wouldn’t. And why would you then vehemently dispute my interpretation of anything in the Bible if it’s all so meaningless? You contradict yourself.

      31. Harold old bean
        Easy answer. I consider the book of Revelation to be important, and legitimate WHEN the vision of Patmos John is presented TRUTHFULLY in representing Jesus Christ. But I can assure you this is not the case with the format in which your search is confined.

        If I’ve accomplished ANYTHING in our exchange the past 2 days it would be to implore you to 1) give up accessing the hopeless confusion contained in extant Bibles and 2) if it’s texts your interested in that would provide you with information pertaining to the truth of Revelation, then PROJECT that desire and you might be surprised at what may turn up. 🙂

      32. HAROLD SMITH: “I mean if Joe Sixpack can look at the collapse of WTC7, for example, and realize that it was a controlled demolition, why can’t Mr. Putin?”

        ADMIN TOBY

        Comment deleted.

        Circassian,

        You are just trying to annoy two of our serious regular posters, Harold Smith and Pat, by pointing out how incredibly stupid they are in comparison to yourself. The fact that you cannot believe that anyone could be more stupid than Harold Smith and Pat does not in fact make them stupid. Nor does it ipso facto prove your own intellectual superiority. You can surely do better than dish up these cheap hominem slurs in order to get your viewpoint across.

        Assuming you have one. 🙂

        I sometimes wonder if your only motive in posting here is to be rude and offensive — just to see how many of our regular posters you can drive away by insulting them.

      33. @ Brownhawk

        My apologies. You may not have called Harold a “Bible thumper” but you dissed him anyway, speaking to him as if he were your intellectual inferior. I am simply here to tell you that my own impression, when reading your respective comments, was that Harold’s comments made sense and were cogently and lucidly expressed, whereas your comments made little sense to me and were remarkable only for their murky incoherence.

        No offense intended. Just giving you my two cents.

      34. I enjoy reading your comments when you keep to the facts, but not when you start attacking your intellectual superiors from a lower perch. You remind me a bit of Satan seeking confrontation with God by claiming equality if not superiority! 🙂

        Be humble and accept the rightness of the guru-disciple relationship, with yourself in the position of disciple, anxious to learn and profit from the guru. Many a disciple goes astray when he tries to jump into the guru’s shoes and assume the guru’s mantle. Don’t make that mistake. I am myself quite happy to play the subordinate role of a disciple, listening to and learning from my betters. You should be too.

      35. Admin,

        Thank you for deleting that offensive comment by Brownhawk. How it is possible for abusive, low-minded commenters like this to put on airs of intellectual superiority is a mystery to me.
        At least Harold Smith never descended to the use of such gutter language.

      36. Give Brother Brownhawk a break! He’s only human.
        How any times have I lost my own cool? I’ve lost count!
        More tolerance please.

      37. Thank you Madame
        I think the last time someone got my goat* like that was before admin. decided to class up this site. As I’m sure you remember, back then things could get pretty down and dirty.

        It was that condescending “guru and student” comment that set me off. Personally, I think Azura got it backwards! 😁

      38. Azura

        Being patronizing to ME does not speak well of YOU. It’s not an admirable trait to have.

        Just thought I’d let you know

      39. @ Azura

        Anyone who Madame Butterfly defends, as she has defended Brownhawk, has to be basically OK. No one on this site has been known to survive an attack by the Butterfly Lady. So watch out! 🙂

      40. Surely you jest. I barely post nowadays, since I’m still recovering from a bad bout of flu like Hp. Being ill has made me a kinder and more compassionate person, and this is the only reason I sprang to Brownhawk’s defense. Having said this, however, I must admit that I admire anyone who looks for a deeper meaning in the Book of Revelation as Harold Smith has done. His instincts are entirely correct when he comments on the crucial importance of this book. What the book means is anyone’s guess. But Harold is to be commended for taking the book seriously and giving it the respect it deserves. It deserves more than respect. It deserves veneration.

      41. There is no other book like this in the entire history of the world. I cannot stop reading it. Every chapter is encrusted with gems of wisdom and numinous insights. The last two chapters are my favorites. I don’t even want to know what they mean! Their intrinsic beauty transcends the need for hermeneutics and exegesis.

      42. Madam
        I too have spoken of the importance of this book. All I want readers to understand is that it has been tainted by the very force which hates Jesus Christ and all he represents. It is (((THEY))) who have sown much of John’s vision with confusion to weaken the power of its message

        What is it about my calling to attention the problem with the wording in extant Bibles that people seem to not want to hear?
        Why are they so ready to be dismissive of what I’m saying? Where is the “proof” to say I’m wrong, even though such “proof” may not be availed to us to say I’m RIGHT?

      43. What other “Bibles” are you talking about? And can you produce any concrete evidence to buttress your “conviction” that the current Book of Revelation has been tampered with and watered down by “Jews”? We are to accept your word, are we, just because you think yourself the cat’s pajamas?

      44. Azura
        You have a problem with the idea that (((jews))) have tampered with the Bible? Really? Now why would (((they))) do that, pray tell?

        That you, Harold, et al don’t see how LIKELY this is shows yet another example of how “jewified” the “goyims” have become.

        As for “concrete evidence”, is that how you’d characterize what’s contained in the Bible? What’s set in stone (or concrete) is evidence of WHAT exactly?

        For me to offer that the “beast” is Judaism, and the “two horns” are its branches of Catholicism and Protestantism is a logical deduction given the REASONABLE premise of tampering, and the general state of obfuscation seen in so much of all things “jew”

      45. Brownhawk,

        Thank you for your explanation. Which frankly, I find hard to understand.

        If the Book of Revelation, as Madame Butterfly would have it, is an inspirational book that elicits admiration and veneration, it’s hard to see how anyone can admire and venerate the book if it’s a watered-down version that Jews have tampered with and bastardized.

      46. And if the book is a watered-down version that Jews have tampered with and thoroughly bastardized, why would you set such store by it? You write in a previous comment:

        BROWNHAWK: “Madam, I too have spoken of the importance of this book.”

        Methinks you contradict yourself, Brownhawk. On the one hand you say the book is “important”. In the next breath you dismiss it as a useless Jewish artefact. You can’t have it both ways. If the book is indeed “important”, the first thing it needs to be is authentic. It can’t be important if it’s also bogus, with the paw marks of the Jew all over it!

        Can’t you see this? And will you finally admit that your argument is invalid?

      47. @ Brownhawk

        “You have a problem with the idea that (((jews))) have tampered with the Bible? Really? Now why would (((they))) do that, pray tell?

        That you, Harold, et al don’t see how LIKELY this is shows yet another example of how “jewified” the “goyims” have become.”

        So according to your bare assertion, jews somehow tampered with the Book of Revelation in such a way as to make it meaningless; i.e., to make it so any arbitrary interpretation is just as good as any other arbitrary interpretation?

        “As for ‘concrete evidence’, is that how you’d characterize what’s contained in the Bible? What’s set in stone (or concrete) is evidence of WHAT exactly?”

        Azura was simply asking you for evidence to back up your claim that jews tampered with the Book of Revelation. Obviously you have none, so you respond with a nonsensical strawman.

        “For me to offer that the “beast” is Judaism, and the “two horns” are its branches of Catholicism and Protestantism is a logical deduction given the REASONABLE premise of tampering, and the general state of obfuscation seen in so much of all things ‘jew.'”

        It isn’t logical at all, for several reasons. First “horns” in the Bible, especially in Biblical prophecy, generally represent temporal (worldly) powers, e.g., “kings”; second, it doesn’t fit the context; that is, it doesn’t agree with the rest of the chapter. For example, I’m still waiting for you to explain in what sense can “Judaism” be said to “maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men” (Rev 13:13). And I’m still waiting for you to explain the correlation between Judaism and a “man” as per Rev 13:18.

        Being that you can’t explain it, you resort to the bare assertion that it’s all invalid because jews somehow tampered with the text of Rev 13 to make it all meaningless.

      48. Azura

        I admit to no such thing!

        I’m contending that the The Book of Revelation, in being a true, and untampered representation of John’s vision MOST CERTAINLY is an important book. That it HAS been tampered with does not detract from its importance when you know WHERE deletions need to be made, of which I’ve indicated in previous posts

        Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

      49. Azura
        Correction. Make that “when you know where deletions CAN be made”, not “NEED to be made”. This, in keeping with how and where I would do a re-wording

      50. As the Book of Revelation is written, its frame of reference holds a distorted painting. The distortion comes mainly in the form of an overuse of passages located in many of the book’s chapters.

        John’s vision in representing Jesus Christ is weakened by this, whose aim is to create a bulk of words to fill its total of 22* chapters.

        Much of this wording is not only unnecessary, it serves to glorify the false God “Jehovah” at the expense of Christ’s “force of action” that his words and the meaning of his existence are intended to be.

        The real battle of “Armageddon” is playing out on an “energy level”, and the good news of Jesus Christ represented by a true reading of “Revelation” involves a “shift” away from the state of Darkness which has characterized life on this planet since time immemorial.

      51. @ Brownhawk

        Yes, I’m sure you would have done a far better job of writing the Book of Revelation than St John of Patmos did, if only the Catholic Church had commissioned you to undertake this difficult task!

        Pity you weren’t around to volunteer your talents when the first Christians were on the lookout for brilliant writers to compose the New Testament! I bet you could have taught St Paul a trick or two! 🙂

        So sad. You missed your calling, Brownhawk. Instead of having a direct hand in the construction of the New Testament, here you are writing comments for a dodgy antisemitic website! 🙂

      52. Poor Harold, mired in the stuffiness and dead-end of scholarship which I’m afraid only amounts to barking up the wrong tree. Coupled with his little synchophant smart-ass toady named Azura

        So sad 😥

      53. Brownhawk,

        Has anyone told you that you are pathetic? The more I read your comments, the more I realize you are totally out of your depth. A pretentious charlatan. A narcissistic ignoramus incapable of logical argument or even civilized discourse. Why Harold Smith and Azura should even bother to bandy words with you is a mystery to me.

        You will do us all a favor if you just shut up and take a back seat.

      54. @ Brownhawk

        I must say I feel very sorry for you. Your poor performance recently gives me cause for much concern. If you have have nothing sensible or factually informative to say, surely it’s best to remain silent.

      55. I do believe my friend Brownhawk should be treated with more kindness and understanding. I reckon he’s just going through a bad patch. Whatever the explanation, I think his heart is in the right place and that he means well.

      56. Having said this, let me add that I can understand Harold Smith’s intense annoyance with Brownhawk. Harold has studied the Book of Revelation minutely and probably knows more about this subject than anyone else I know. He could probably write a learned paper on the subject, fit for publication in some erudite theological journal. So it must be deeply frustrating for him to be corrected, contradicted, and disrespected by Brownhawk who clearly, in comparison, knows next to nothing about the subject.

      57. Ruth
        All you ever DO is take a back seat. When have you ever offered anything except for the occasional negative comment directed at OTHER commenters?

        Did anyone ever tell you that you sound like a miserable old cow? 😩

        As for you, Sardonicus, when have you offered anything truly creative? Something that sparks the imagination? You always seem to be on the sidelines. When I regard you, it makes me think how frequently you tell us all how great our host lasha is, but where are your OWN creative impulses? Why do you seem to always play it safe?

      58. Madame B

        You couldn’t be more wrong, telling me I know nothing of this subject.

        I guess I’m gonna have to prove you all wrong by bringing out the “big guns”

        Wait for it

      59. When a pack of hyenas goes after someone, my sympathies lie invariably with that someone whoever that might be: he must be doing something right.

      60. Your sympathies must therefore lie with the Jews, since everyone goes after them like a pack of hyenas. So tell me, what are the Jews doing right?

      61. Let me guess. They helped your pet psychopath, Stalin, to kill 66 million people in the Soviet Union. (As per Solzhenitsyn). Quite an achievement.

      62. … One has to add the following report that A. T. Fomenko received orally from one of the partakers of the conversation that is to be described below. A while ago, Professor M. M. Postnikov submitted an article with an overview of N. A. Morozov’s chronological research in a journal titled Uspekhi Matematicheskih Nauk (The Successes of Mathematical Sciences). The following dispute among members of the journal’s editing board, among them Academicians P. S. Alexandrov and A. N. Kolmogorov, ensued. A. N. Kolmogorov refused so much as to touch the article, saying something along the lines of “This article is to be rejected. I spent enough time and effort fighting Morozov in the days of yore”. However, he added the following: “And yet we shall all look perfectly idiotic if it turns out that Morozov was right”. The article was rejected.

        This conversation sheds some light on the events of the days when N. A. Morozov’s research was practically vetoed. Today we are being convinced that everything had happened “automatically” and that N. A. Morozov’s research was of little enough interest to have been forgotten by everyone in a short time. We are now beginning to understand that the forces opposing N. A. Morozov were all the more formidable to have needed the assistance of A. N. Kolmogorov. It is also noteworthy that A. N. Kolmogorov considered it possible for N. A. Morozov to have been correct.

        Sardonicus,

        Would you like to know what the above quote is all about, in particular, what it has to do with the Bible, Jesus Christ and many other interesting things? Do you know who N. A. Morozov was? Have you ever heard of A. N. Kolmogorov?

      63. Now I know how my old buddy lobro must have felt, being set upon by a swarm of vipers eager to pounce on a person who dares to think outside the box. And this is the point of it, really. Not how I’m perceived in presenting my argument, of which a general consensus seems to be one reflecting a “poor performance”, as “Sardonicus the Monitor” puts it.

        Who was it said ” If only one person knows the truth, is it then NOT the truth?” But instead, in this example of attempting to interpret the Book of Revelation, many people confine themselves to employing a strict analysis of deciphering text without having the sense that something is off about it, and then attempting to understand what it may be.

        Harold, for you to say “Judaism” is just an idea, and that it contains “only” words, is palpable in its miscomprehension of the pall over humanity it’s dark energy and influence has cast. Ideas TRANSFORM
        into actions! You must feel very safe in your insulated “scholar’s cocoon”

        Ask yourselves what from what source has this been effected more, than the Christian Bible? And this INCLUDES the so-called “New” Testament. Underestimating THAT puts us in a “ship of fools”. But you and many others consider yourselves to be so “jew-wise”, as time feel insulted to admit you’re BEING fooled.

        Rather than “shift around” your brain cells, you resort to what amounts to nothing more than the cautionary and parsimonious blather of Ockham’s razor.

        My advice: don’t be lazy thinkers. When we are, it puts on a road leading to Nowheresville

      64. Now I know how my old buddy lobro must have felt, being set upon by a swarm of vipers eager to pounce on a person who dares to think outside the box.

        Did you do anything to land a support to your old buddy when he needed it most? The way we make difference in any meaningful way is not by showing how smart we are, but by showing dignity an honor and paying the price for it. Now, when you find yourself in the position where your old buddy was not so long ago, who is voicing a genuine support for you among your “old buddies”? None!

        I never called Lobro my old buddy and never liked the guy for I always felt the weakness of his moral fiber. I do not care much how smart or how dumb a person might be. Intelligence is not the most valuable quality in a human being – compassion, love, dignity and honor are.

    2. My understanding has it that to say “666” is the number of “man” is terribly misleading. So to use this as a premise for equating “Judaism” with “man” is flawed to BEGIN with. Your mistake is in taking the wordings of Revelation from various extant Bibles VERBATIM.

      Never mind it’s erroneous affiliation with “man”. That the number of the beast (“666”) holds a very dark energy makes it a reasonable assessment to equate THIS with the scourge of Judaism

      1. “My understanding has it that to say “666” is the number of “man” is terribly misleading.”

        Huh? John of Patmos said:

        “Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six” (Rev 13:18).

        So according to you, the prophet is wrong? He doesn’t know what he’s talking about? You know better? This is at least the second or third instance of you claiming that the Bible is wrong. So why would you bother with it if it’s wrong?

        “So to use this as a premise for equating “Judaism” with “man” is flawed to BEGIN with.”

        I’m not using anything as a premise for anything; I’m merely saying that if you claim that the second beast is a certain person or thing, whatever it is has to be in agreement with the other identifying features; that’s all. And that makes sense, right? But rather than admit that “Judaism” just doesn’t fit where you’re trying to put it, you’re claiming that the prophet is wrong. Well that’s certainly a bold and novel approach to the interpretation of Biblical prophecy. Silly me, I didn’t know it was acceptable to just ignore anything that didn’t fit thus I wasted so much time trying to find out what would be in agreement with all the identifying features.

        Now moving on to other identifying features, please tell me in what sense does Judaism “maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men” (Rev 13:13)? Or is the prophet wrong about that too?

        “Your mistake is in taking the wordings of Revelation from various extant Bibles VERBATIM.”

        Please point out exactly where I took something “verbatim” which turned out to be wrong or whatever in your opinion.

        “Never mind it’s erroneous affiliation with ‘man’. That the number of the beast (“666”) holds a very dark energy makes it a reasonable assessment to equate THIS with the scourge of Judaism”

        Well it is in a sense *associated* with Judaism; just not in the way you’re claiming.

    3. Harold

      I never insinuated that ANY arbitrary interpretation will do. Its irresponsible for you to say that, or to conclude that I consider Revelation to be meaningless.

      You’re not getting it. You look for logical interpretation based on wording that can’t be trusted 100%. Therefore, my interpretation of the two horns CAN be considered to be credible when you create a plausible context. That, and saying Judaism can be said to “make fire come down from Heaven on the Earth in the sight of men”

      Use your imagination, man!

      1. @ Brownhawk

        “I never insinuated that ANY arbitrary interpretation will do. Its irresponsible for you to say that, or to conclude that I consider Revelation to be meaningless.”

        LOL! No! You clearly imply it. You imply that your interpretation of Rev 13 is no less valid than mine – because of tampering. By logical extension of your apparent “reasoning”, anyone could say it means anything, and when challenged simply point out that the text has been tampered with.

        “You’re not getting it. You look for logical interpretation based on wording that can’t be trusted 100%.”

        LOL! No, you’re not getting it. Once again, if the “wording cannot be trusted” then any arbitrary interpretation is as good as any other arbitrary interpretation which implies that the whole thing is meaningless and it’s therefore pointless to even discuss it.

        “Therefore, my interpretation of the two horns CAN be considered to be credible when you create a plausible context.”

        Nonsense. When you’re trying to interpret something like this, you’re not free to arbitrarily “create a plausible context” so as to force a square peg into a round hole. You can make assumptions as you consider different things, but in the end it has to all fit together like the pieces of a puzzle.

        “That, and saying Judaism can be said to “make fire come down from Heaven on the Earth in the sight of men

        Use your imagination, man!”

        Huh? I’m sorry but I don’t understand your statement, and to the extent I do understand what you’re trying to say, “imagination,” while important, is not a substitute for scholarship and common sense. Anyway, for the Nth time, your bare assertion that Rev 13:11 refers to “Judaism” doesn’t stand the slightest logical scrutiny for many reasons, some of which I’ve already mentioned. Maybe if I mention some more it’ll help?

        First, if as you claim jews tampered with the text of the Book of Revelation, why would they do so in such a way as to implicate themselves as evildoers?

        Second, what exactly is “Judaism”? Ultimately it’s nothing more than a set of ideas, right? Ideas have no “power” of their own, as they’re just “words on paper.” Ideas don’t make moral choices between right and wrong; people do. Ideas don’t take action; people do.

        Rev 13:12 begins: “And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him…”

        How does an idea “exercise power”?

        Rev 13:13 begins: “And he doeth great wonders…”

        How does an idea “do great wonders”?

        Rev 13:14 begins: “And [he] deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast…”

        How does an idea do this?

        Rev 13:15 begins: “And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak…”

        How does an idea do this?

        If you were actually a student of Biblical prophecy (which you obviously aren’t) you would realize that the second beast of Rev 13:11 is an entity that corresponds exactly to the little horn of Daniel 7:8. IOW the two prophets are apparently describing the same future scenario from a different perspective.

        It’s clear from the text that the second beast is exercising power and making a moral choice to do evil, something that an “idea” cannot do.

        I could go on and on; so why not just accept that you’re wrong and stop wasting time?

      2. … it’s not the nobler nation that necessarily wins but the one that is rotten in spirit and is morally bankrupt. This is if the rotten nation that is morally bankrupt is far richer and better equipped with superior armaments.

        Superior armaments, ah? What superior armaments, Toby? Tomahawks, brownhawks? Nukes don’t exist, remember? You are not willing to go to war and risk your miserable life to defend your rotten and morally bankrupt nation. You want the drones to fight for you, is that it, Toby?

        Sorry, brother, it does not work that way. You have to risk your own ass – after Russia kicked ISIS where the sun does not shine there are no more idiots willing to sacrifice their lives for your fake money.

      3. Circassian,

        Why do you assume that I am backing America and its Nato allies? Believe me, if war breaks out, many millions of people in the West will be backing Russia. In case you have forgotten, this is a pro-Putin website. Most people here, including my niece Lasha Darkmoon, admire Putin and wish him good luck. We would hate to see Russia in ruins.

      4. As Flopot here points out, however, there are several negative factors surrounding Putin. Perhaps you can engage in discussion with Flopot and try to convince him that he is wrong to see Putin as a dead loss.

        This is what Flopot says:

        Why is one of Putin’s closest advisers a Chabad representative?

        Why did Putin invite the Jews to return en-masse to Russia?

        Why is Putin on excellent terms with kosher mass murderers, from Kissenger to Bibi?

        Why is Putin’s Russia chock full of prominent Jews in prominent positions?

        Why has Putin never freed the Russian Central Bank from its kosher-imposed Constitution?

        Why is Putin overseeing the ongoing partitioning of Syria?

        Why is Russian business booming with the so-called pariah-state, Israel?

        Perhaps you could answer these questions?

      5. Perhaps you could answer these questions?

        Gladly. Israel is not an actor of any significance in world affairs, period. Israel is nothing but a cur of the US, and Jews are nothing but curs full of shit and arrogance. The significance of Israel and the Jews comes exclusively from the fact that they are items, tools in the rich arsenal of the Anglo-American global empire for plundering the world. This empire is based on lies, lies and more lies while the Jews are excellent liars and deceivers. To rule the distant lands you have to install in ruling positions unscrupulous local “elites” who do not care about their own people while the local Jews make the best choice for that “elite” because they are, by definition, not loyal to the countries they dwell in.

        Putin cannot ignore the “Jew factor” for the simple reason that the power behind the tool called Jews is enormous. Putin says many things. For example, he calls Americans “our partners”. But does he mean it? Why does not he call Americans “our enemies”? Because that would be stupid in his position. Putin does not run around screaming that 9-11 was an inside job. Because that would be stupid in his position. Putin does not say that America faked Moon landings. Because saying that in his position would be stupid. Chess player does not announce what he has in mind, and what his next move would be. Because that would be stupid.

        You have to listen closely what Putin says and you have to watch closely what Putin does… and think and think, and think. You have to think, Toby.

    4. @ Brownhawk

      “Harold, for you to say “Judaism” is just an idea, and that it contains “only” words, is palpable in its miscomprehension of the pall over humanity it’s dark energy and influence has cast. Ideas TRANSFORM
      into actions!”

      Judaism isn’t threatening Venezuela; team orange clown is. Judaism didn’t empty an M-16 magazine into Iman Darweesh Al Hams, an innocent 13 yr old Palestinian girl; a jewish-supremacist madman did.

      Judaism is merely an idea, and ideas don’t magically “transform [themselves] into actions.” It’s people that act on ideas; people who have a moral choice to do evil or not to do evil. The second beast of Rev 13 is not an idea; it’s a political puppet which exerts power to do evil on behalf of the first beast.

      Just like John the Baptist prepared the way, spiritually, for Jesus’ ministry, the first beast prepared the way, politically, for the second beast. That is, the first beast consolidated power into the executive branch, creating an unprecedentedly powerful and unaccountable seat of political power, into which it installs a succession of evil men – i.e. puppet rulers – apparently culminating in the supremely evil “false prophet” of Rev 19:20 (which may be Donald Trump).

      “You must feel very safe in your insulated ‘scholar’s cocoon'”

      Thanks largely to your efforts, yes, I feel quite secure in my present views.

      “Ask yourselves what from what source has this been effected more, than the Christian Bible? And this INCLUDES the so-called “New” Testament. Underestimating THAT puts us in a “ship of fools”. But you and many others consider yourselves to be so “jew-wise”, as time feel insulted to admit you’re BEING fooled.”

      I honestly don’t know what you’re talking about. I was interested in Biblical prophecy, so I studied it. I eventually arrived at a certain view – at least a partial understanding – which I think is reasonable, and I felt I had a moral duty to share it with others. I’m not saying that I have all the answers; I don’t, in fact I may be wrong about everything, but unlike so many others, I at least have what I believe is a cogent argument. That’s all.

      Of course I’m open to other points of view, but it will take more than hand waving and sophistry to convince me; you’ll have to come up with some kind of a reasonable argument.

      1. Harold
        It’s only “sophistry” based on your idea of a “reasonable” argument”. But I suppose I should apologize for coming on too strong. Contrary to how many out there seem to view it, as with anyone, I DO respect the fact that you are a truthseeker

        Having said that, YOU said, “Judaism is “merely” an idea, and ideas don’t [magically] transform into actions. It’s people that act on ideas; people who have moral choice to do evil or not to do evil.”

        Well, if JUDAISM is an idea (which of course it is), and people act on ideas IMMORALLY, then what precludes Judaism from BEING such an idea? After all, people’s actions aren’t done in a vacuum.

      2. But I suppose I should apologize for coming on too strong. Contrary to how many out there seem to view it, as with anyone, I DO respect the fact that you are a truthseeker

        Another broken man, groveling on his knees and begging for mercy: I’ll kiss your ass just don’t kick me out of the shithouse. What is f*cking wrong with you people! Is anyone here with a human dignity… except TROJ?

        Seeing how rotten in spirit you all are out there in the West, I can tell you this, folks, with certainty: The defeat of the US by Russia will be more devastating, more swift and more far reaching than anything we have seen so far in the history of mankind.

      3. @ Circassian

        Seeing how rotten in spirit you all are out there in the West, I can tell you this, folks, with certainty: The defeat of the US by Russia will be more devastating, more swift and more far reaching than anything we have seen so far in the history of mankind.

        You could be right, Circassian. But consider the possibility that your passionate belief is possibly blinding you to the fact that it’s not the nobler nation that necessarily wins but the one that is rotten in spirit and is morally bankrupt. This is if the rotten nation that is morally bankrupt is far richer and better equipped with superior armaments. If Russia has a secret devastating weapon, that could of course tip the balance in her favor.

        Sorry, I shouldn’t voice my opinion here. Very wrong of me. A monitor’s role is to remain aloof and detached.

      4. How you equate that with being a broken man is a f***ing ludicrous statement from a ridiculous man.

  10. Ralan’s narrative made you feel guilt already white guys? That’s what he wishes for. My BS sensor is sounding the alarm!

    He is extremely sarcastic and, at the same time, pretends to be naive. “If Jews are so cunning, devious, and smart them why do the arabs have all of the oil?” I don’t think the Iraqi or Libyan people have any oil by now.

    He lives in a special Jewish community, a singularity! Nobody ever mentioned anything to him, he never heard anything. Ralan “knows a family that lost a child in the parkland school shooting”. His father’s Army Division liberated several camps, an infantry man I suppose; should I say thank you for that? “Respect of others was top of the list”, his father told him. Are you a Christian pretending to be a Jew?

    AIPAC x NRA, this one is easy: NRA do lobby AIPAC do bullying, and is foreign. JFK tried to shut it down, what happened to him? Ralan and Donaldo seem to be in denial of Jewish Power and its influence/network in every gentile Nation, that’s nonsense! Somehow, coincidentally and miraculously, Jewish Power is the beneficiary of all gentiles’ foes.

    Ralan words: “I have been reading this website for sometime”. But he still believes arabs, with gilets, accomplished 9/11; he never heard the Mossad’s motto “by way of deception thou shalt do war”, nobody ever told him! If he really want the truth he can read books written by Jews, it will be easier for him to digest. Do your homework and you will be a dissident Jew, not an useful idiot, a pawn in the game; otherwise you are just part of the problem!

    An act of God brought us some light this last Sabbath! An operational manual for Jews only, published in Tel Aviv, 1958; it teaches how to infiltrate and control gentile societies. Ralan seems to be following it step by step.

    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=184090

    1. The jews always lie, that!s their dna. They have to.
      The jews hate the whites because the whites are physical and mentally better people and with good morals. The jews are always cunning. They have to.
      Jews have an inferioritycomplex. They must hate to feel thenselves better, as they hate themselves, very disturbed narcistic psychotic paranoid people. There are no good jews as they profit by the ‘ works’ of the bad jews and act as spy and handlers, intermediaries, for the bad jews. Always are they sticking together. They must smell each other. I don’t like them.

      1. Hi Marcus,

        Is this supposed to be Ralan’s answer to my inquiry about ‘any good orthodox Jews”? I’d sure like to read what he has to write. Empty space I guess.

  11. B-Hawk –

    Agenda-21 is gonna be fulfilled, here in this “Game Show”…. with or without the blessings of Isaiah:

    GREEN NEW DEAL REVEALS THE NAKED TRUTH OF AGENDA 21

    https://tinyurl.com/GRNnewDEAL21

    To introduce the plan, the Earth Summit Chairman, Maurice Strong boldly proclaimed, “Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning, and suburban housing – are not sustainable.” Of course, according to the plan, if it’s not “sustainable” it must be stopped.

    From its inception in 1992 at the United Nation’s Earth Summit, 50,000 delegates, heads of state, diplomats and Non-governmental organizations (NGOs) hailed Agenda 21 as the “comprehensive blueprint for the reorganization of human society.” The 350-page, 40 chapter, Agenda 21 document was quite detailed and explicit in its purpose and goals. They warned us that the reorganization would be dictated through all-encompassing policies affecting every aspect of our lives, using environmental protection simply as the excuse to pull at our emotions and get us to voluntarily surrender our liberties.

    1. I hear ya, Pat. This “game show” seems to be pretty much on schedule, although in keeping with our disagreement I still contend that we would have surrendered our liberties years ago by surrendering our guns had the British thoroughly defeated the “American rabble” back in the day

      You know my take, and for those who don’t, I’ll just say that while the financial umbilical cord to London was never severed, the American fighters were never vanquished. 😠

    2. Since you brought up the UN’s Agendas.

      In its Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs), in SDG target 10.7., United Nations (UN) Member States commit to facilitate by 2030 the “orderly, safe, and responsible migration and mobility of people, including through implementation of planned and well-managed migration policies” (UN, 2015).

      And in “Mein Kampf”, the most notable Adolf Hitler wrote:

      “The National Socialist movement must strive to eliminate the disproportion between our population and our area”

      obviously by invading “living space” in other countries.

      So the UN is trying to solve the massive population explosion in the third world in the same way that those wicked Nazis of the German NSDAP planned to solve the German population growth Hitler often spoke of. Except the UN doesn’t state that this movement would be by force of war but through the cooperation of UN member governments and their leaders such as Merkel, Macron, etc. And while Hitler planned to move his Germans east, the UN is planning to move its Asians, Africans, and South and Latin Americans west and north. And those that are being invaded what are they doing? Signed off at Marrakesh! Well, most did anyway.

      1. CM –
        “…the UN is planning to move its Asians, Africans, and South and Latin Americans west and north. And those that are being invaded what are they doing? Signed off at Marrakesh!”

        You are correct.

        Just THREE MONTHS ago….

        —9 December 2018 – Migrants and Refugees—

        A safer, more dignified journey for all migrants, tops agenda at global conference in Marrakech.

        In Marrakech, UN chief urges world leaders to ‘breathe life’ into historic global migration pact

        Leading Government representatives from more than 150 States have arrived in Marrakech, Morocco, with a view to adopting a ground-breaking UN-led global migration compact which is designed to make the growing phenomenon safer and more dignified for millions on the move.

        The Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration (GCM) is the first-ever inter-governmentally negotiated agreement to cover all dimensions of international migration in a holistic and comprehensive manner.

        It was born out of the – New York Declaration for Refugees and Migrants – adopted unanimously by the UN General Assembly in September 2016, and is the culmination of 18 months of discussions and consultations among Member States, and other actors, including national and local officials, civil society, private and public sectors and migrants.
        https://news.un.org/en/story/2018/12/1028031

        It takes ONLY A FEW New York jews, working for A FEW London jews, to control ALL world migration!!

      2. “So the UN is trying to solve the massive population explosion in the third world..”

        C’mon man! Africa alone could support the entire population on earth five times over.
        Last time I looked, South America is also an entire rich beyond belief continent capable of easily supporting ten times its current population.
        It’s not too many people, it’s too many demons disguised as leaders stealing, manipulating, withholding and using resourses as tools and weapons. And the fake UN is right up there at the top of the dung pile.

        The UN is hardly more than a sanctuary city for foreign $hakedown artists.

  12. To all,
    As a percentage of their ethnic group many so-called “Jews” are atheistic. Those “Jews” who are “religious most do not believe in an after life. This creates in the brains of both the atheist and no after life religious “Jews” the mind set of getting all you can anyway you can right in the here and now. Of course the other religions believe that there are rewards and punishments in a heaven or a hell, so one had better watch the way the conduct themselves in the here and now. No such fear in the religion of Judaism.
    Granted, many if not most Jews are as clueless and any non-Jew as to the plans of the Talmudic Jewish elite. For example, at a near by University these is the 1936 thirty volume first edition of the Sinceno Talmud in all it’s glory.
    After a few years of graduating from said University and starting to clear the cob webs from my brain and learning what in the hell was going on in the real world, I ventured into the said University Library in about the middle 70’s and cracked open a few of the volumes of said Talmud. This was to prove to myself what was said and written about the Talmud was true. It was. But here is the odd part. This edition of the Sinceno was gifted to the University by the B’nai B’rith, or Jewish Masonry. It would be only speculation to guess if those who gifted the Talmud knew what the choice contents were. However, up to the middle 70’s and after about 30 years of gathering dust in the reverence section of the University Library, which by the way is a very good library, and after 30 years of hundreds of not thousands of Jewish students attending the University I was the very first to crack open the many volumes I look at. So, is it safe to say that many,if not, most “Jews” do not know what the Talmudic elite are up do? Most likely. But are they as clueless as every one else? Not known. But in this age of the internet many Jews, even Ralan, among many others, just might have some suspicions. And if Ralan stays around the Darkmoon site and does a little digging, his alleged suspicions may turn to reality.

    1. In my up coming 4 score years, I want to stick around and see what the future brings. If the past is prologue to the future the rest of the 21st century will be filled with war and more war of all kinds. I want to be around to take down a few of the goons and hit men of the tyranny as they go about rounding us up of the lessor God. Like they did Roger Stone. America will be a waste land by the turn of the next 100 or 150 years filled with a people we would not recognize as human. The Jew paradise on earth will have arrived in all it’s glory. Some of the tribes in the deep Amazon may escape this “heaven on earth”.

  13. Admin Toby, with your permission I would like to ask Harold Smith a polite question.

    Dear Harold Smith, how would you rate the intelligence of a person who asserts that the existence of nuclear weapons is a myth conjured up by the Jews?

    Now I would like to ask you, Admin Toby, a polite question.

    Dear Admin Toby, how would you rate the intelligence of a person who comes up with the following question: “I mean if Joe Sixpack can look at the collapse of WTC7, for example, and realize that it was a controlled demolition, why can’t Mr. Putin?”

    1. Circassian,

      Firstly, I don’t think Pat is intellectually subnormal just because he believes in the conspiracy theory that no nukes exist. I personally have no doubts that nukes exist and it seems pretty obvious to me that they exist. But believing in weird ideas is not a mark of stupidity or low IQ, as you imply. It’s the way Pat’s brain is wired. It’s a mental aberration of some kind. Such people can give the impression of high intelligence if you talk to them on any other subject except their idée fixe or pet obsession.

      To believe that no nukes exist is no more weird than believing that someone can turn water into wine and walk on water and raise the dead to life again. And yet many people believe these things implicitly. Do you call such people “stupid”? I don’t. Gullible? Maybe. But gullibility doesn’t imply low IQ. The psychological need to believe in the miraculous does not equate with stupidity. Nor, by extension, does a belief in implausible conspiracy theories.

      So I think we must allow Pat his eccentric ideas without suggesting that he has to be halfway between a moron and an idiot.

      As for Harold Smith’s comment, I see nothing amiss there. He is simply pointing out that no sensible person who has studied 9/11 can possibly accept the official version. And he wonders why it is taking Putin so long to figure out what is so blindingly obvious to millions of 9/11 Truthers. (Or is Putin playing poker, pretending to believe one thing but secretly believing something else, perhaps the opposite?)

      You apply the word “stupid” too widely, it seems to me. Anyone whose viewpoint does not coincide with your own is “stupid” in your estimation. Is Lasha Darkmoon “stupid” because, unlike you, she is not an admirer of Stalin? If so, many eminent thinkers are “stupid”, including Kevin MacDonald, for having a very low opinion of Stalin.

      1. Thanks, Toby –

        My ideas about MOBILE nuclear weapons are eccentric to you, because they are based on my nuclear engineering and nuclear reactor operation experiences for over 7 years in the US Navy. Nuclear submarines.

        Tesla was eccentric to those who could not follow his thinking. So was Edison…. and many more.
        If I told some more intricate details of what I know about nuclear submarines, it would cause just as much clamor with those without that experience.

        I believe I am the only commenter here that has operated a nuclear reactor and understands all of the formulas I gave as exhibits for my claims. It took years in classrooms and operation for me to understand them. I do not have the energy or time to explain them here.

        So, call me eccentric…. I like it.

        All good here, Toby. 🙂

      2. Toby,

        I appreciate your willingness to answer my questions.

        ADMIN TOBY: So I think we must allow Pat his eccentric ideas without suggesting that he has to be halfway between a moron and an idiot.

        I would be the last person to deny Pat’s right to have any beliefs he may wish to entertain. I couldn’t care less if he believed that his grandfather was actually a beautiful woman. But why in heavens we would promote him (you would promote, to be exact) as a “serious regular poster” in matters where the factor of nuclear weapons (who has it, who has not, of what kind, etc.) is literally the most important one, when he entertains an “eccentric idea” that the existence of nuclear weapons is a myth. Why would you do that… unless, of course, you have your reasons for doing so which I fail to comprehend.

        ADMIN TOBY: The rest of this insolent comment has been deleted.

        Circassian,

        I’m not going to waste any more time arguing with with you or being subjected to a third degree “interview” by a Stalinesque interrogator. Pat has already explained that his “eccentric” ideas on nuclear weapons are based on seven years of personal experience working with nuclear reactors. If you think he’s lying or don’t like what he says, that’s tough.

        If you wish to rant on about the stupidity of Pat, Harold Smith, Lobro, Lasha Darkmoon, and just about everyone else posting on this site, do so on a nice Jewish forum which will no doubt welcome your views. Or get your own website.

        And no, I am not Tobias Langdon who writes for the Occidental Observer. The only thing I have in common with Mr Langdon is the name “Tobias” or Toby. In case you are struggling to comprehend, I’d like to assure you that the poster known as “Pat” on this website is not the same person who goes under the name of “Pat Buchanan.” All they have in common is the name “Pat”. 🙂

        Any further comments from you attempting to prolong this futile discussion will be deleted unread.

      3. How come it’s okay to think that nukes don’t exist? It’s simply an eccentricity to think so. It’s no big deal, eccentricity is not anything to get all worked-up about and there’s certainly no good reason to censor anyone for being eccentric. In fact, WE LERV Pat for being an eccentric thinker! Pat’s an eccentric thinker and that proves Pat has an intelligence WAY ABOVE the average and WE admire Pat for being so smart as to be an eccentric thinker. It means he has a VERY HIGH IQ! And it means he’s VERY BRAVE to come to his own conclusions, no matter how eccentric his conclusions may be, it proves he doesn’t stupidly and unquestioningly go along with the herd of sheeple people. It proves he has a mind of his own and that’s always admirable, to have a mind of one’s own. Pat is to be admired for his eccentric thinking. His eccentric thinking greatly enriches Darkmoon.

        ¿BUT it’s not okay to be a Flat Earth Geocentric? That’s eccentric thinking and WE DO NOT have any patience for eccentric thinkers. WE have NO tolerance for whiddlejoew, he’s an eccentric thinker and eccentric thinkers are off-the-wall and WE don’t waste Our precious time, and WE don’t truck, with no stinkin’ eccentric thinkers!

      4. Lol. Pat, you’re not eccentric — you’re simply just right. These trolls are somewhat mangling the stages that truth must pass through (I’m seeing ridicule and violent opposition) but they cannot stop it. On this one particular issue (“da Bomb”) I have never witnessed such cognitive dissonance — so many defenders of the concept using mainstream narratives as evidence? And from so many razor sharp minds too; erudite, eloquent yet completely wrong on the issue.

        I was initially flabbergasted at your stance on Nuclear Weapons. However by looking at the mainstream “evidence” with fresh eyes; knowing what the Masters of Discourse have been doing to us for generations; and applying logic, I was able to finally accept the truth of your assertions.

        You’ve destroyed hopium forever, Professor Pat, and for that they will never forgive you. We on the other-hand should be celebrating your indefatigability. Yes, we should change our minds when faced with the truth — in your case, you saw the light (or lack of light in this case 😉 ) way before anyone else. So forgive me if I attacked you on that point in the past.

        The fact that the trolls have come out on this topic on this particular thread shows that someone, somewhere is worried that another of their wheezes might come undone.

      5. Flopot

        And that ain’t the only “wheeze”* that would come undone.

        *a form of comfortable numbness that doesn’t see beyond, as you put it, (and I’ll paraphrase) “concepts gleaned from mainstream narratives”)

        I think you know what I’m referring to, as evidenced by so much of the “off-topic” discourse seen on this thread, as it pertains to thinking outside the box 🤔

  14. ¿How come it’s okay to think that nukes don’t exist? It’s simply an eccentricity to think so. It’s no big deal, eccentricity is not anything to get all worked-up about and there’s certainly no good reason to censor anyone for being eccentric. In fact, WE LERV Pat for being an eccentric thinker! Pat’s an eccentric thinker and that proves Pat has an intelligence WAY ABOVE the average and WE admire Pat for being so smart as to be an eccentric thinker. It means he has a VERY HIGH IQ! And it means he’s VERY BRAVE to come to his own conclusions, no matter how eccentric his conclusions may be, it proves he doesn’t stupidly and unquestioningly go along with the herd of sheeple people. It proves he has a mind of his own and that’s always admirable, to have a mind of one’s own. Pat is to be admired for his eccentric thinking. His eccentric thinking greatly enriches Darkmoon.

    ¿BUT it’s not okay to be a Flat Earth Geocentric? That’s eccentric thinking and WE DO NOT have any patience for eccentric thinkers. WE have NO tolerance for whiddlejoew, he’s an eccentric thinker and eccentric thinkers are off-the-wall and WE don’t waste Our precious time, and WE don’t truck, with no stinkin’ eccentric thinkers!

    1. TROJ –

      Yep!! NO “herd of sheeple people” for me!! HA!!

      I’m not a member of that religion! 🙂

  15. @MADAME BUTTERFLY

    Are you sure the author of the Book of Revelation wasn’t suffering from ergotism, known as Saint Anthony’s Fire?

    I’m not trying to knock it, I love the works of Hieronymus Bosch too.

    1. No, I don’t think either the works of Hieronymus Bosch or the Book of Revelation could be ascribed to ergotism. Bosch might have eaten tainted rye bread on a particular occasion, giving him a weird hallucinatory painting immediately after that, but he couldn’t have been suffering from ergotism for 20-30 years. Same with the Book of Revelation. Too many chapters, written over several weeks. If not months. Ergotism is short-termed. A “quick trip” of a day’s duration.

      Follow me?

      Next you will telling us that Darwin’s Origin of Species or Gibbon’s Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire was the result of ergotism! 🙂

      1. Well yes, but a one off trip could serve as an inspiration, and then there could be “flashbacks”, or the rare instances where the tripper never comes down (Is THEREALORIGINALJOE on this site one such case? Or does he morph into TOEJAMICUS whenever he clears the cobwebs of his mind?) Long-term alcohol use can have strange hallucinatory effects too, as can long-term fasting, or even a diet of only wine and bread. I wonder what other hallucinogens may have been used in that region by wise and holy men and shamans; marijuana almost certainly, and perhaps opium, or poppy seeds (hemp and poppy seem to be ubiquitous).

        I do find Darwin’s evolutionary theory quite strange and am not decided on its validity. I prefer the Buddhist idea of transmigration of souls, as from man to monkey, or vice versa. And if man evolved from some animal I’d prefer it to have been from bears than from apes. After all bears can walk on two legs, even dance, fish, and hibernating through winters seems quite intelligent to me. Or even kangaroos who know how to box, and carrying babies in a pouch seems most intelligent. “Intelligent design” has its points too, especially explaining those massive gaps in the fossil record of intermediary “evolving” species. But whoever thinks they evolved from chimps and apes is welcome to it. Some of us could have been wolves or eagles, or even owls, in our past lives, and not necessarily all ants and cockroaches. But what we will be next, or devolve into, is of more concern.

        The real decline and fall of the Roman Empire has been attributed by some to lead poisoning, although I’m sure there was more to it, not least the treasonous Jews collaborating with outside invaders and opening gates for them from Spain to Byzantium. And alas today, what do they do to white civilisation?

      2. @ Commentator Mike

        “I do find Darwin’s evolutionary theory quite strange and am not decided on its validity. I prefer the Buddhist idea of transmigration of souls, as from man to monkey, or vice versa.”

        How strange that you should prefer to Darwin’s scientific theory the airy-fairy Buddhist belief in transmigration, a theory that has no scientific validity whatsoever. It MAY be true, yes; but it can never have any scientific validity since it is no more than an unprovable opinion. Wish fulfilment at the best.

        How nice to think that you could once have been Alexander the Great. Or Cleopatra. And that in a future life you will be a multibillionaire tycoon with a hundred gorgeous mistresses and a thousand houses all over the world! 🙂

        Reincarnation certainly has its charms. So much better than just dying and returning to dust and ashes, right?

  16. Whoops. I almost forgot

    *My understanding is that in this context, “22” connotes an esoteric meaning of there being 22 components of the “antichrist”

  17. @HP

    Maybe I didn’t express myself well. Maybe you’re right, but we do often hear about mass starvation in Africa. Anyway I was presenting the UN’s point of view in my comment, and comparing the massive population growth in the three continents and current UN policy with Hitler’s statements on German population growth in the early 20th Century. I think it is obvious that I do not support UN’s migration policy or the signing of the Marrakesh agreement by any nation. The UN is well aware of the population growth in the third world, as well as the decline of the populations of white countries, and although it is supposedly promoting other measures, such as population control in the third world, but obviously not very successfully, it has openly promoted the replacement policy.

    I also don’t know how correct Hitler was about the need for Germany to occupy land in Eastern Europe to feed its growing population and become a world power to rival the three major empires of his day: British, French and Russian/Soviet, as look what it led to. Let’s not get into if he had won the war then we would not be having these problems on this thread, as whatever would have been we don’t know, and it’s not of much help in dealing with the here and now and tomorrow.

    1. Yes Mike, I see that I should have expressed my
      “C’mon man” better. My bad.
      I know the UN doesn’t fool you or me.

      The bigger point was the nonsense of overpopulation which is a pathetic meme..

  18. @SARDONICUS

    Yes indeed, it doesn’t mean that we have to prefer or like science more, just because it seems more valid, or we have been taught to think it is more valid than religion.

    Better minds than mine have dealt with the problems of science and religion, so I doubt I can add much. But going totally scientific can lead one to abandon a moral compass, and that’s where religion comes in I guess.

    You mention some possible outcomes of a moral life, on the other hand some evil doer, like say Soros, could end up as a cockroach in his next life and get squashed under the sole of some barefoot African, if there is any justice in the cosmic order of the universe. And then the Buddha can have the last laugh out there in his Nirvana.

  19. And here at “Catholic-inspired” Darkmoon uncle is going to GIVE UP being CENSORIOUS towards Flat Earth Geocentric TRUTHERS for Lent, right uncle? “Catholic” mama be wantin’ her “cradle ‘Catholic'” bubalah to give something up for Catholic Lent and uncle decided to GIVE UP being a CENSORIOUS gate-keeping jesuit-LERVIN’ neanderthal baboon goon cave man low level street thug hit man for the heliocentric Academic-Science MAFIA, right uncle? You’re going to do THE RIGHT THING this Lent and allow THE FLAT EARTH GEOCENTRIC TRUTH to be spoken, to be shared, to be disseminated, right? You’re going to tell the jesuits and your mama’s poop to go F themselves, right, and then you’re going to allow some REAL FREE SPEECH around here, right?

    Remember O uncle, from dust thou art and to dust you will re-turn . . . U stupid gorilla, man does NOT live on bananas alone.

    Maybe you live on bananas alone, uncle, BUT REAL MEN who want THE REAL TRUTH do NOT live on bananas alone ; lol, gorillas, apes, monkeys, and baboons, live on bananas alone, *grin*. Don’t tell me, let me guess, banana splits and banana cream pies are your all-time favorite desserts, the only type of desserts you stuff in your 🍌-lervin’ big mouth, u simian u. Do yourself , and everyone else for that matter, a BIG favor and GIVE UP being a stupid silly simian for Catholic Lent, *grin*.

    ADMIN TOBY : OK, if you say so!

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