Biden wins White House, vows new direction for divided US

By JONATHAN LEMIRE and ZEKE MILLER
Information Clearing House
November 11, 202o

THE  NEW  PRESIDENT  ELECT  JOE BIDEN 
flanked by the two most powerful women in America:
Kamala Harris (left) and wife Jill Biden (right)

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday and offered himself to the nation as a leader who “seeks not to divide, but to unify” a country gripped by a historic pandemic and a confluence of economic and social turmoil.

“I sought this office to restore the soul of America,” Biden said in a prime-time victory speech not far from his Delaware home, “and to make America respected around the world again and to unite us here at home.”

Biden crossed the winning threshold of 270 Electoral College votes with a win in Pennsylvania. His victory came after more than three days of uncertainty as election officials sorted through a surge of mail-in votes that delayed processing.

Trump refused to concede, threatening further legal action on ballot counting. But Biden used his acceptance speech as an olive branch to those who did not vote for him, telling Trump voters that he understood their disappointment but adding, “Let’s give each other a chance.”

“It’s time to put away the harsh rhetoric, to lower the temperature, to see each other again, to listen to each other again, to make progress, we must stop treating our opponents as our enemy,” he said. “We are not enemies. We are Americans.”

Biden, 77, staked his candidacy less on any distinctive political ideology than on galvanizing a broad coalition of voters around the notion that Trump posed an existential threat to American democracy. The strategy, as well as an appeal to Americans fatigued by Trump’s disruptions and wanting a return to a more traditional presidency, proved effective and resulted in pivotal victories in Michigan and Wisconsin as well as Pennsylvania, onetime Democratic bastions that had flipped to Trump in 2016.

Biden’s victory was a repudiation of Trump’s divisive leadership and the president-elect now inherits a deeply polarized nation grappling with foundational questions of racial justice and economic fairness while in the grips of a virus that has killed more than 236,000 Americans and reshaped the norms of everyday life.

Kamala Harris made history as the first Black woman to become vice president, an achievement that comes as the U.S. faces a reckoning on racial justice. The California senator, who is also the first person of South Asian descent elected to the vice presidency, will become the highest-ranking woman ever to serve in government, four years after Trump defeated Hillary Clinton.

Harris introduced Biden at their evening victory celebration as “a president for all Americans” who would look to bridge a nation riven with partisanship and she nodded to the historic nature of her ascension to the vice presidency.

“Dream with ambition, lead with conviction and see yourselves in a way that others may not simply because they’ve never seen it before,” Harris told Americans. “You chose hope and unity, decency, science and, yes, truth … you ushered in a new day for America.”

After he spoke, the cars at the drive-in rally — a pandemic campaign invention — began to honk their horns and a fireworks display lit up the night sky. Biden was on track to win the national popular vote by more than 4 million, a margin that could grow as ballots continue to be counted.

Nonetheless, Trump was not giving up.

Departing from longstanding democratic tradition and signaling a potentially turbulent transfer of power, he issued a combative statement saying his campaign would take unspecified legal actions. And he followed up with a bombastic, all-caps tweet in which he falsely declared, “I WON THE ELECTION, GOT 71,000,000 LEGAL VOTES.” Twitter immediately flagged it as misleading.

Trump has pointed to delays in processing the vote in some states to allege with no evidence that there was fraud and to argue that his rival was trying to seize power — an extraordinary charge by a sitting president trying to sow doubt about a bedrock democratic process.

Trump is the first incumbent president to lose reelection since Republican George H.W. Bush in 1992.

He was golfing at his Virginia country club when he lost the race. He stayed out for hours, stopping to congratulate a bride as he left, and his motorcade returned to the White House to a cacophony of shouts, taunts and unfriendly hand gestures.

In Wilmington, Delaware, near the stage that, until Saturday night, had stood empty since it was erected to celebrate on Election Night, people cheered and pumped their fists as the news that the presidential race had been called for the state’s former senator arrived on their cellphones.

On the nearby water, two men in a kayak yelled to a couple paddling by in the opposite direction, “Joe won! They called it!” as people on the shore whooped and hollered. Harris, in workout gear, was shown on video speaking to Biden on the phone, exuberantly telling the president-elect “We did it!”

“We  did  it!”

Across the country, there were parties and prayer. In New York City, spontaneous block parties broke out. People ran out of their buildings, banging on pots. They danced and high-fived with strangers amid honking horns. Among the loudest cheers were those for passing U.S. Postal Service trucks.

People streamed into Black Lives Matter Plaza near the White House, near where Trump had ordered the clearing of protesters in June, waving signs and taking cellphone pictures. In Lansing, Michigan, Trump supporters and Black Lives Matter demonstrators filled the Capitol steps. The lyrics to “Amazing Grace” began to echo through the crowd, and Trump supporters laid their hands on a counter protester, and prayed.

Americans showed deep interest in the presidential race. A record 103 million voted early this year, opting to avoid waiting in long lines at polling locations during a pandemic. With counting continuing in some states, Biden had already received more than 75 million votes, more than any presidential candidate before him.

Trump’s refusal to concede has no legal implications. But it could add to the incoming administration’s challenge of bringing the country together after a bitter election.

Throughout the campaign, Trump repeatedly refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power, arguing without evidence that the election could be marred by fraud. The nation has a long history of presidential candidates peacefully accepting the outcome of elections, dating back to 1800, when John Adams conceded to his rival Thomas Jefferson.

It was Biden’s native Pennsylvania that put him over the top, the state he invoked throughout the campaign to connect with working class voters. He also won Nevada on Saturday pushing his total to 290 Electoral College votes.

Biden received congratulations from dozens of world leaders, and his former boss, President Barack Obama, saluted him in a statement, declaring the nation was “fortunate that Joe’s got what it takes to be President and already carries himself that way.”

Republicans on Capitol Hill were giving Trump and his campaign space to consider all their legal options. It was a precarious balance for Trump’s allies as they try to be supportive of the president — and avoid risking further fallout — but face the reality of the vote count.

On Saturday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell had not yet made any public statements — either congratulating Biden or joining Trump’s complaints. But retiring GOP Sen. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, who is close to McConnell, said, “After counting every valid vote and allowing courts to resolve disputes, it is important to respect and promptly accept the result.”

More than 237,000 Americans have died during the coronavirus pandemic, nearly 10 million have been infected and millions of jobs have been lost. The final days of the campaign played out against a surge in confirmed cases in nearly every state, including battlegrounds such as Wisconsin that swung to Biden.

The pandemic will soon be Biden’s to tame, and he campaigned pledging a big government response, akin to what Franklin D. Roosevelt oversaw with the New Deal during the Depression of the 1930s. He announced that, as his transition kicks into high gear, he would on Monday appoint his own coronavirus task force.

But Senate Republicans fought back several Democratic challengers and looked to retain a fragile majority that could serve as a check on some of Biden’s ambitions.

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“I  WON  THE  ELECTION  —  THEY  CHEATED!”

115 thoughts to “Biden wins White House, vows new direction for divided US”

      1. “Joe BIDET
        flanked by the two of the most HIDEOUS women in America:” – FIXED!!!

        And I’m GLAD those hideous bags are wearing face-burkas to hide the ugly mugs!😂

      1. Yep Realist,
        “Righteous Rebbe” Donaldo agrees with you. The assortment of battle-axe hags occupying positions of power are INDEED more attractive covered up wearing scarves and face-diaphers. Perhaps Yahweh, the illuminated one, DOES have a sense of compassion and mercy after all. The Covid-19 could be translated into a divine blessing of sorts….mandating coverings and social-distancing. Fellow Darkmooners. Could any of you envision a fully-nude Feinstein, Pelosi or Hillary approaching you as youre chained to a bed 🛌 in a medieval dungeon? Closer and closer they approach! Alas! There lies MEY securely tied. Unable to move. He pleads to Allah……his Savior. No answer. The nude hag, never-the-less approaches. A sinister grin on the lips. She is confident. Smells blood. Well folks. It’s just an illustration. But eerily real in the cloud ☁️ of fog which surrounds this presidential election. Every American is MEY…..lying strapped to the 🛏️ once called Democracy. What fate awaits MEY (Americans) ? Well. Donaldo isn’t a Rebbe. Doesn’t qualify. Being Rebbe is a long and difficult process. Let’s give the Rebbes respect please. They are very well educated. But, on a lighter note, us truckers have a saying in our unpredictable World…..”We shall see….we shall see.” 🌮🍷🤔🙏

      1. @Admin

        Sorry Admin, thank you for setting me straight on that.

        Lemire and Miller have clearly written an opinion piece. It reads much like a mainstream news talking points exercise. I am not sure what I have been informed of by it.

        In my opinion, articles like the following will be found closer to the truth:

        https://theamericanreport.org/2020/10/31/biden-using-scorecard-and-the-hammer-to-steal-another-u-s-presidential-election-just-like-obama-and-biden-did-in-2012/

    1. Hi MAHMOUD… what a SURPRISE to see you here again monopolising the virtual white-board!

      Hope you saw my comment addressed to you near the bottom of the previous thread. Any thoughts? tia 🤔

    1. Kamala Harris with the deciding vote in a deadlocked Senate? Jesus H. Christ what have we come to in this country? (Like I didn’t know but can’t believe what I’m looking at)

  1. As is usual, ever since they had JFK murdered, the zionists are the winners of the election, as every election has been a Hobsons choice of pre-selected zionist puppets to serve in the puppet show that keeps the people mesmerized and going along with the debt and war program that fights for zionist Israel.

  2. Guess I wont be visiting your website ever again——thanks anyway:

    (ADMIN: See my comment above to Ron, Pelican, Pat, and others)

      1. @ herennow

        We apologize if the publication of this article has hurt your feelings. Hang around a bit. Our next article, to be published tomorrow morning (Friday 213 November) will please you much more.

  3. What I do not understand, or are I missing something (I depend on the input of you guys and some other conservative websites) – is the election not still in a state of contest because of possible fraud (mainly the letter ballot)? How can he already move into this position?

    As far as I understand, until the elections have been declared as free and fair, and the court agrees, Donald Trump is still the president.

    Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks in advance.

    1. @ Ex South African

      Biden won, Trump lost. No doubt about it. Let me explain.

      Biden needed 270 Electoral College votes to win. Winning the key state of Pennsylvania (20 votes) cemented his victory. The final results made it abundantly clear that Trump had lost by a wide margin, making it impossible for him to claim victory without giving any solid evidence of fraudulence. Which he failed to do.

      ALLEGATIONS of fraud, yes; but ALLEGATIONS of fraud are NOT FRAUD! Allegations have to be PROVED in a court of law.

      Trump can’t just shoot his mouth off about winning, while wandering around in golf cap, and expect over 300 million Americans to accept his word as gospel truth! Especially if over 50% of Americans think he’s a pathological liar. Which he is.

      FINAL RESULTS:

      BIDEN: 290 Electoral College votes
      TRUMP: 217 (?) Electoral College votes

      Biden would have won if he’d won by only ONE (1) Electoral College vote. As you can see, he did better than that. He won by a staggering margin.

      1. @ Saki

        Bravo! You speak truth. The Trump supporters here who refuse to admit defeat honorably are like badly behaved brats throwing a tantrum because Mommy won’t buy them a second ice cream! 🙂

        Pay no attention to these bad losers who support Trump and his whining complaints — complaints deliberately designed to cause disruption and lead to civil unrest and White militia violence.

        Their motto: “HAVE GUNS, WILL SHOOT. YOU. DEAD.”
        (Signed: ‘American Psycho’).

      2. If there was the slightest doubt about Biden winning the election and Trump being cheated, you would have seen the Supreme Court step into action right away and declare: “ELECTION RESULTS PENDING. NO DECISION HAS BEEN REACHED YET.”

        The Supreme Court has done no such thing.

        Nor has it reprimanded the media for declaring Biden the victor.

        Yet the Supreme Court could easily have done this, seeing that the Supreme Court is heavily weighed in Trump’s favor. There are 9 Supreme Court judges. Out of these, 6 are Republicans and there are only 3 Democrats.

        Trump supporters on this site fail to explain why the Supreme Court has NOT INTERVENED in Trump’s favor by calling a moratorium. In addition, they fail to explain why MANY REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS have openly endorsed a Biden victory and told Trump to GO QUIETLY.

        Even former Republican President George W. Bush has congratulated Biden on his victory and advised Trump to accept his defeat like an honorable man.

        The inability of the Trump supporters to accept these sad facts as facts is saddening. Do I gloat? Of course not! Since I don’t give a damn about Biden and think the Democrats could be even far worse for America — especially if Kamala gets her hands on the tiller.

      3. @ SAKI

        Excellent points!

        (1) Former Republican President George W. Bush congratulates Democrat President Elect Biden on stunning victory and prays for calm and “healing of wounds”.

        (2) Many other Republican politicians in both Houses have conceded a Trump defeat and congratulated Biden.

        (3) The Supreme Court has not moved a muscle to back Trump, call a moratorium, or cast doubts about the outcome of the election which points clearly and unambiguously to a Biden victory.

        Get used to the idea, friends. On January 20, Biden will be inaugurated as the new president. He will then move into the White House. Trump and his family will have to vacate the premises.

        Or be forcibly evicted.

      4. Before you congratulate yourself by your pomposity, Saki, please realize that an ACTION must be submitted for court recognizance BEFORE the court can act. Right now, evidence is still being investigated, and the plaintiffs are preparing their case. The Court takes no action upon itself.

      5. The use of ad hominem abuse is always the last resort of desperadoes who have lost the plot. People like you. Frankly, I find it hard to enter into civilized debate with bad losers who keep whining and can’t accept honorable defeat. Get yourself some good manners, Mr Huntly, before I invite you over to dinner at my country estate.

      6. Saki,

        Be patient with Gilbert. He has the soul of a poet and is basically a rough diamond underneath his harsh exterior. Like so many others on this site: like Lobro and Pat and Brownhawk and Homer and the oddbod known as “The Realist” … all good men looking for happiness in a world where it cannot be found.

        Life has not treated our dear Gilbert too kindly over the last year or so. This accounts for his bad temper and curmudgeonly abuse. He needs a good woman to fuss around him and give him a hug now and then. To fetch his slippers and fix him a drink and cuddle up to him in bed while it’s snowing and the wind howls outside like a mad banshee. All he needs is love, like all us wretched human creatures do, because it’s love that makes the world go round! 🙂

      7. Saki-
        You are very mistaken. SCOTUS CANNOT JUST STEP IN! 😂😂😜
        SCOTUS HEARS CASES…. AND THERE ARE NONE BROUGHT YET TO HEAR! 😎

      8. @ Gilbert
        @ Pat

        OK, I could be technically wrong about Scotus, but let’s not nitpick too much.

        This still doesn’t explain why Republican ex-President George W. Bush has already congratulated Biden on his victory, declaring him the winner, and why dozens of Republicans in the Senate as well as the House of Representatives have told Trump to go quietly.

        Also please do remember that we live in a wider world that stretches well beyond America’s shores. The leaders of most countries have phoned Biden to congratulate him on his victory. They would hardly do that if they thought Trump was still America’s president! Boris Johnson in England was the first international statesman to hear from Biden. They spoke for 25 minutes, with Boris abasing himself before Biden and groveling at his feet. Merkel in Germany and Macron in France were also quick to recognize Biden as the new President. Dozens of other heads of state have followed suit.

        Come my friends, be realistic, would so many foreign countries have lined up to congratulate Biden and curry favor with him if there was the slightest doubt in their minds about who was the REAL president of America?

        I beg you, be reasonable. I couldn’t care less about Biden. He means nothing to me.

        Don’t worry, friends. Your wounds will heal. Slowly. You’ll have to learn to live with Biden in the White House. Keep your energy for when the real trouble begins.

        The Reign of Queen Kamala!

        That’s when the nightmare will start!

      9. Example of SCOTUS being moved by the case in 2000….
        Case to be heard:
        “George W. Bush and Richard Cheney, Petitioners v. Albert Gore, Jr. and Joseph Lieberman, et al.”
        Decided Dec 12, 2000:
        “Judgment for defendant, Fla. Cir. Ct.; matter certified to Florida Supreme Court, Fla. Ct. App.; aff’d in part, rev’d in part, sub nom. Palm Beach County Canvassing Bd. v. Harris, 772 So. 2d 1273 (2000); cert. granted, stay granted, 531 U.S. 1036 (2000).”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore

      10. Saki –
        I have no wounds either way.

        Commenters always engage in EXTREME “Nitpicking” here! That’s the fun…… 😎💪

      11. “ALLEGATIONS of fraud are NOT FRAUD! Allegations have to be PROVED in a court of law.” 9/11 Rudi is on the job (looking for truth/fraud) right now while “what is it again what I am doing Joseph Biedenstein” seeks to restore the (sold out and withered) soul of America. Ever imagined that the American law system itself is the biggest Fraud ever as it never will or can incorporate JUSTICE, TRUTH and righteousness for decent Americans? Fraud r US first ever female black President to be says: “You chose hope and unity, decency, science and, yes, truth … you ushered in a new day for America.” Sounds just like the “change” (that never arrived) Obomber was talking about. How about some more noble peace prices for the incoming democratic presidents?
        When one thinks one has seen it all the mighty US always proves one wrong.
        No wonder Trumpsky rather looses his balls in the bushes on some lonely golf course he owns while the usual hole-in-one is scored officially, as American politics – as accustomed – is made elsewhere.

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8926777/Rudy-Giuliani-claims-50-witnesses-voter-fraud.html

    2. The election is still contested because all of the votes haven’t been counted…Or more accurately, because there are still enough outstanding and/or challenged ballots to swing the election either way. It simply is not over. In fact, I think Trumps chances look better than Biden’s t this point. Just my opinion.

      1. @ Bobm
        @ Pat

        BOBM: “The election is still contested because all of the votes haven’t been counted…”

        No, no, no! You simply don’t understand! You are getting the popular vote (total number of votes/ = less important) mixed up with the Electoral College votes (state results/ = far more important).

        No matter how many more votes are still to be counted, TRUMP CANNOT WIN! Because he has ALREADY LOST the Electoral College votes.

        Let me explain.

        Whoever wins 270 Electoral College votes wins the election. Once that magic figure is reached, the Election is over. It doesn’t matter how many uncounted votes come after that. Biden WON THE ELECTION once he broke through the 270 vote barrier. He won 290 state votes.

        Of course I realize that all this means nothing if the whole thing is ONE BIG GIGANTIC FRAUD, with thousands of votes being dumped or set on fire and thousands of FAKE VOTES handed to the Democrats. That’s what Trump ALLEGES. And that’s what his supporters BELIEVE.

        The trouble is: most of America and the world DISBELIEVES TRUMP’S ALLEGATIONS! They regard these allegations as baseless, without evidence, spurious, false, devoid of merit. If this is CONFIRMED by Scotus (the Supreme Court), then Trump will have lost.

        He will only remain President if Scotus declares him the winner!

        @ PAT

        Am I not right, Pat?

        BTW Pat, are you willing to bet me $100 on this?
        TRUMP confirmed winner: I owe you $100.
        BIDEN confirmed winner: you owe me $100.
        (Paid by $ bills in envelope to P.O. box number,
        no online payments or bank checks.)

      2. MB –
        I made claims about the process and system. The fraud is prevalent either way. It always is. Red-Sign did not tell me his pick. Soooo…. No bets by me. 😍

      3. @Madame Butterfly

        Am I not right, Pat?

        BTW Pat, are you willing to bet me $100 on this?
        TRUMP confirmed winner: I owe you $100.
        BIDEN confirmed winner: you owe me $100.
        (Paid by $ bills in envelope to P.O. box number,
        no online payments or bank checks.)

        What does this tell me? It tells me a lot:

        (1) MB is precise; so precise, in fact, that she is almost mathematical.

        (2) She is quite confident that this is over – Biden will be confirmed. It happens that I share this view.

        (3) The amount of money she offered to stake, $100, tells me that she is absolutely serious about this offer.

        (4) She is practical: the settlement procedure offered is such that it guaranties privacy for both parties – the payee and the payor.

        (5) She knows talk is cheap when it comes from idle chatterers like Pat. All it takes to expose an idle talker is to put him in a position where he is forced to put his money where his mouth is.

        (6) She is – by order of magnitude – more intelligent than Pat and many others around here.

        Pat’s refusal to take this offer is what I would have expected from him. Now, what I would like is MB making the same offer to Gilbert and Lobro to see their reaction. When it comes down to risking hard-earned cash, people start thinking more realistically.

        Theory of probability, betting, decision theory, game theory, and plausible reasoning in general – are links of one and the same chain – a most fascinating subject I have been preoccupied for quite some time now.
        In the following video, go to the QA section and see your humble servant speculating on these matters:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpEHPLOFg5s&t=27m55s

      4. MB –
        Circus –

        I prefer a different and more ON-TROPIC narrative…. 😉 👍

        THE U.S. CONSTITUTION AND FEDERAL LAW ARE CLEAR AND UNAMBIGUOUS ABOUT ELECTION FRAUD AS ARE THOSE PRECEDENTS SET BY THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT

        President Trump has been elected by default for a second term beginning January 20, 2020.

        Neither Joe Biden nor Kamala Harris have yet to even respond to the countless cases of election fraud currently under investigation, which have been reported to the authorities quite suspiciously in primarily the crucial battleground states. Biden’s complete lack of response to this weighty matter speaks volumes about his obvious complicity in this ongoing election theft.

        As soon as the first court decisions are handed down against the Democrats regarding the extraordinary amount of voter fraud and election theft, the preliminary electoral result will be vacated immediately. President Trump can then be certified as the President-elect and preparations can begin for his inauguration on January 20, 2021.

        http://stateofthenation.co/?p=35959

      5. @ Circassian

        Now, what I would like is MB making the same offer to Gilbert and Lobro to see their reaction.

        I await their challenge with bated breath. 🙂

        Let them, as you say, put their money where their mouth is.
        I doubt they will have the balls to do so.

    3. Thanks for all the replies and the ‘good’ news. Not very exciting. Have a nice weekend, polish your rifles and grab your fishing rods. Gone fishing. Much more relaxing.

    1. As Yogi Berra said, “It aint over ’til it’s over. There’s a great deal of evidence of election fraud throughout the country except where Trump won handily…it’s on the web for all who want to see it, and it was all for fixing Biden.The media’s unauthorized certification of Biden recalls its validation of the official explanation of 911.
      When the rats abandoned the sinking U.S.S.R. they swam back to the U.S.

  4. EX
    No, you’re not wrong. You’re 100% right….
    Bad thing, the world is full of unreasonable people…
    Everybody’s militarized, defending their positions and aggressing from there….
    Politicians all preach fight, not cooperate…
    Nothing intellectual about it… not enough good guys, above the fray, hearing and speaking only the truth…
    It doesn’t have to be that way, but as long as it is we continue the slide to chaos…
    There’s always a logical way out…
    As the republican party is now redefining itself in its move to fill the void over the working people, those who still have work and have not been sucked into the commie globalists’ rotten revolution…
    Somebody needs to step into the breech here and save the republic… because if this ballot crime is not negated and the results overturned, the commies will screw things up bad forever, a lot like they have made things worse and worse in California…
    One little problem – rotten elements in the republican party have done the same thing, bush cheney….
    And are there really enough decent people left in the republican party anyway?
    Certainly, a wave is building, of revelatory information on how crooked this election was…
    A huge case is being made of hundreds of reports, every day the details mount, witnesses, names, affidavits, film… the crime was big and plenty sloppy, rappies everywhere….
    Maybe the Republicans will prove it to the court and reality will be forced upon the liars and cheaters, felony prosecutions a many….
    That’s what should happen…
    They’ll have to do it without most of the media and in spite of a lot bad judges….
    And when the traitors and violent revolutionaries erupt, let trump come down on them with the full weight of the federal police and military…

  5. If DM’s cackling ‘Coterie Of Clowns’ actually think – for ONE minute! – that that Tag-Team Of Treason, that Duo Of Duplicity – Barmy Biden & Cuckoo! Kamala – will be sworn into office on January 20th 2021 (when they’ll be lucky not to be swinging from lampposts on that day!)….
    then, I have to say, MO, MB, SAKI et al are dumber – FAR DUMBER! – than EVEN I could have possibly imagined!

  6. First it was her Highness Hillary, then Nitwit Nancy, then Commie Cortez and now Commie
    Kamala…. well I’ve got a question:

    WHO the FCK do these DUMB BROADS think they’re kidding wearing those white “power pantsuits” ??? 😅😅😅

  7. ” Like so many others on this site: like Lobro and Pat and Brownhawk and Homer the Realist … all good men looking for happiness in a world where it cannot be found.” – MB

    Oh dear… 🙄🙄🙄
    Just when you thought you’d heard it all… MB, her deranged vindictiveness having ignominiously FAILED TO IMPRESS, delves back into her “Amateur Psychology For Dummies” playbook to dredge up the chapter entitled “Playing the Good Cop: Softly, Softly Catch A Monkey” in the vain hope of ensnaring some simpleton simian, with even a semblance of self-respect, to do her bidding…. her Legion Of Lickspittle Lackeys (MO & SAKI immediately spring to mind) apparently, not quite “measuring up” and “doing the job”.
    😅😅😅

    1. @ The Realist

      Tut tut, MB has included you in her list of lovable humans who need a hug and a cuddle … and you go for her like a mad bull in a China shop! How can you be so cruel? 🙂

      1. How can I be “so cruel” Sister Monica?

        Quite easily, since, having “been around the block” (more times than I can remember, I might add), I’m quite well attuned to the machinations of the Vampire Sex (of which MB “just happens to be” a PRIME exemplar!), and can spot a fake, phoney fraud – especially one the slips so seamlessly from “dark alleyways & ice-picks” to syrupy sweetness, kindness & light – in less time than it would take you to say “Jack The Ripper… in DRAG!”. And – “No!”- a ‘Shattered Personality Disorder’ is NO excuse!

        Now, all of this, of course would be “water under the bridge” (the water in MB’s case being the River Styx) and normally I’d let it pass (after taking a piddle off that bridge onto MBs canoe below! 😅) and go on my merry way. But in these perilous times, I feel obliged to alert the more feeble minds – particularly those nattering nitwits SAKI & MO – on this forum to the danger of heeding the Siren Calls of such a Scheming Sorceress… and being led to The Abyss. Thank You.

      2. @ The Realist

        She’s not going to like this. I urge caution.
        She could sue you for defamation of character.
        No one likes being told she belongs to the “Vampire Sex”
        or compared to Jack the Ripper! 🙂

      3. The Realist is not being cruel. He’s being smart. He doesn’t want to get stabbed in the back so he acts like a bull to keep Madame at a distance. Madame has a long history of stabbing her “friends” in the back. A long hsitory of pretending to be friendly in order to draw her victims close to her, so she can then stab her “friends” in the back. The Realist is not cruel. He’s smart.

        Heck, she just stabbed her country in the back, she fully supports THE STEAL. This from someone who was always patriotic, or pretended to be patriotic is more like it [ her so-called patriotism was always implied ].

        Flitter&Flutter : Oh yes, I love my country and my fellow Americans, I think I’ll stab my fellow Americans in the back while the enemies of this country destroy this country I love so much. Love means never having to say you’re sorry. We know that’s true because that meme started in a jew Hollywood play-on-the-emotions syrupy movie circa 1970 and I’m a beautiful hot sexy babe so I’m a sucker for 𝓡omantic movies! Luv me I’m beautiful! I’m like a sexy underworld spy chick!

      4. @ TROJ

        Down doggie, down!

        I never “stabbed America in the back” for this simple reason: at NO TIME have I backed Biden! Still less Kamala.

        You say: “Heck, she just stabbed her country in the back, she fully supports THE STEAL.” False logic, Troj. I don’t support any form of stealing. If I believed the Election was “stolen”, I would be as outraged as you are. But I don’t believe it was “stolen”. Period.

        Allegations of fraud have been made and DISMISSED AS WORTHLESS. I happen to believe sincerely that, despite a few irregularities, the Election went to Biden fairly and squarely when he won not only the Electoral College vote but the Popular vote too — both by a WIDE MARGIN.

        In any case, why are you hopping and dancing about in a rage when SCOTUS will soon offer their final verdict?!?

        Are you prepared to accept the final verdict of SCOTUS — YES or NO?

        That’s the big question! 🙂

        Because it’s not possible that SCOTUS is going to be UNFAIR to Trump, given that Trump has just appointed THREE Republican Scotus judges! SCOTUS is now heavily biased TOWARD Trump, not AGAINST him! Remember that.

        (6 Republican Scotus judges, but only 3 Democrat Scotus judges).

      5. Yes, I saw that video. It was good. The Trump supporters will have loved it. I thought it only fair that people should be allowed to watch this. I am not for censorship. But suddenly this video is pulled. Killed at source. I think the Trump supporters have reason to be mad angry.

        I wonder if YouTube is telling the Truth about Fox News blocking the video from YouTube on “copyright grounds”? That doesn’t sound likely to me. This sounds more like YouTube censorship.

  8. Is quite shocking to see so many people who should know better upset about Donald “I Love Israel” Trump’s defeat. He got what he deserved. A liar and a traitor who threw White America under the bus again and again. In spite of some serious misgivings (his long-standing and friendly relationship with the Jews exemplified by the marriage of his daughter to a fanatical Zionist and her conversion to Judaism, all of this with the blessing from daddy) I supported him in 2016 because he said all the right things. Moreover, the incredible hatred towards him displayed by media and the Jewish establishment made me believe that there was something about him.

    Well, he did not waste time to prove us who supported him wrong. Not only he did not keep any of his promises, but he systematically did everything within his power to undermine and condemn White nationalists. He bent over backwards to please Hispanics and Blacks (like all the filthy Republican traitors have done over the years). He did not move a finger to put down the murderous rioters of BLM neither to protect national monuments, and he proved to be one of the most subservient and disgusting lackeys of Israel.

    Yes, I know Biden is the ultimate POS, but do you know what? At least he does not pretend to be my friend like Donald “the clown” did. Biden told us over and over again that he hates White people and that he is going to do everything possible to eliminate us. With Biden, you know where you stand. Trump was/is a liar and a traitor. He deserves out hatred and contempt. I hope this defeat and the coming terror will wake up those millions of morons who last week voted for Trump, for a shyster that betrayed every one of his supporters over the last 4 years.

    Join the National Alliance and start fighting for your people.

    1. Claudius –

      I understand your reasoning, but I still believe (or want to believe) that a second term of Donald Trump will reveal his true colors. He will no longer be campaigning for a subsequent term, and he won’t need to appease Israhell. While he has not overtly sided with our own notions, he has done us no real damage, either. We already KNOW those POSes Biden and Harris are lamp post fodder, so Trump is our only viable choice,

    2. @ Claudius

      Great comment.

      Yes, I know Biden is the ultimate POS, but do you know what? At least he does not pretend to be my friend like Donald “the clown” did. Biden told us over and over again that he hates White people and that he is going to do everything possible to eliminate us. With Biden, you know where you stand. Trump was/is a liar and a traitor. He deserves out hatred and contempt.

      Furthermore, in light of Trump’s claims of fraud in the 2020 election (which may or may not have some validity), I think it’s important to point out that the only reason Trump won the 2016 election by a narrow margin (IMO) was because he defrauded voters like you and I with his bait-and-switch campaign platform scam.

      Just as we know where we stand with Biden, we also knew where we stood with Hillary Clinton in 2016. For all of her evil, at least Clinton was “honest” about her views on foreign policy during her campaign (although the historical record didn’t leave her much choice in the matter). Whereas if Trump had been honest about the nature of the foreign policy he intended to pursue, I believe he would’ve lost the antiwar vote, lost the states of MI, WI and PA, and lost the election to Clinton.

      In light of this, the spectacle of sanctimonious hypocrite Trump screaming about being cheated is gut-wrenching.

      I hope this defeat and the coming terror will wake up those millions of morons who last week voted for Trump, for a shyster that betrayed every one of his supporters over the last 4 years.

      As I see it, the “coming terror” may be from nukes, thanks to Trump. Trump’s apparent plan to put intermediate range cruise missiles near Russian and Chinese borders is the icing on the treacherous cake. I can and will fight against “mobs” if it comes to that, but there’s nothing I can do about incoming nukes (or dollars made worthless if Trump’s anti-China policies ultimately result in loss of U.S. consumer access to Chinese manufactured products).

      BTW there may be another aspect to the election drama playing out before us. Some people seem to be concerned about what Trump might do if he should lose the election in terms of “national security” e.g. as laid out in the following linked article:

      https://www.lawfareblog.com/can-trump-sell-us-national-security-secrets-impunity

      But going a little further, it seems plausible to me that Trump may have gotten some serious dirt on various “deep state” crimes and operatives. He may even have inconvenient information about the origin of SARS-CoV-2. Could this be why many republicans e.g. Mitch McConnell are supporting his effort to stay in power?

      Knowing his personality and his history of taking revenge on people that he feels have wronged him, he may have information that has a lot of people sweating.

      1. @ Claudius
        @ Harold Smith

        Bravo! I’m glad you two guys are posting on this website. If it weren’t for patriotic Americans like you, and one or two other well-informed and level-headed commenters here, this site would soon deteriorate into a madhouse for morons.

        It’s not so much their appalling political myopia and bad taste in putting this con artist clown on a pedestal. It’s also the tantrums they continue to throw as bad losers. Trump tells them he’s been “cheated” and the dopes actually BELIEVE him! They cite dubious and unconvincing evidence of fraudulence which no one with an ounce of common sense would accept as even remotely convincing.

        Just watch Scotus make mincemeat of their claims!

        Why can’t these sad sacks concede defeat like real men? To lose the game and shout “I WON!” — like the mentally unstable Trump does — is the lowest trick in the book. Truly contemptible.

      2. Probably all of stupid inane air-head ditzy chick liberation theology Boomer hippy-dippy hip & with-it nun sister moronica’s fellow NEO-“Christian”/NEW-“Catholic” big shot prelates in the church in the United States have already kissed biden’s NEO-“Christian”/NEW-“Catholic” butt — and also they kissed kamala’s hindu butt, I’m sure, because WE are syncretists. Unfortunately there’s still maybe 1 or 2, 3 at the most, prelates in the USA who are recalcitrant and stubborn and belligerent and don’t really care for NEO-“Christians”/NEW-“Catholics” but fortunately very very very few and WE look forward to a bright future with Our fellow NEO-“Christian”/NEW-“Catholic” biden as WE trust he will steer the ship of state according to God’s will and the way NEO-“Christian”/NEW-“Catholic” francis and his like-minded jesuits want the USA to be steered, Amen. NEO-“Christians”/NEW-“Catholics” are TOTAL jackasses, speaking of cucks. NO moronica , cucks NOT cocks, calm down b*tch. *grin*

  9. Steve Hilton, The Next Revolution’ host weighs in on the 2020 election results, has a suggestion sure to outrage the suddenly sanctimonious NOT-Extreme Antisemites crowd: count only legal ballots, dismiss illegal ones.

    But … but … don’t you trust us and our counters, this would interfere with process of national healing and unification, wail Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer, Whoopi Goldberg, Jerrold Nadler, Kamala Harris who for 4 long years out in wilderness and dignified suffering quietly and patiently held hands and sang Kumbaya in fervent hope and prayer for healing, burning incense in acts of civil disobedience, peaceful protests, Doctors of National Soul, imagine the level of psychosis were they to disappear from the scene, Jews, women and Jew-women, aka Jewesses, who would march in hotpants for BLM, eagerly masked, gagged and bound for some funky S&M to release pent-up frustration and hit the road of healing and redemption?
    Who?

    Illegal ballots, illegal aliens“, terms of cis-male white privilege, such racist language, sure giveaway of Extreme Antisemitism, along with related terms, e.g., logic, balance, justice, all constructs of white supremacism, verbal rape of Our Mother Gaia who is getting hotter and hotter under our noses.

  10. Guys, We must not forget, that at all times, the Deep State is in constant manipulation of the Masses through Hegelian Dialectics; Thesis-Anti-Thesis-Synthesis.
    We must not forget, that both Trump and Bidden are Deep State Lieutenants. Trump is a bully, and what we are witnessing, is not the indignation of a public spirited hero of the people. Its Trump trumpeting his tan(trumps)
    We should not be suckered up by the Matrix System, and lose focus on what is really happening. It’s the dilution of importance of elections, and disgust with the office of the presidency. The aim is to shift the focus of the American people from their “Democratic Elections” to tamper down the power prestige of the presidency, to reduce America from “Super-Power” prestige, to continue whittling down of freedom through instigation of the false-flag domestic terrorist attacks, that justify draconian laws, and the disarming of the people, all which prepares the Americans for the take-over by United Nations.
    Same game plan for the rest of the nations. If trump was really for the Americans, he should be singing now, “Don’t Cry For Me Trump-mericans” Do not cry for Trump. Cry for yourselves.

  11. MB
    “Whoever wins 270 Electoral College votes wins the election. Once that magic figure is reached, the Election is over. It doesn’t matter how many uncounted votes come after that. Biden WON THE ELECTION once he broke through the 270 vote barrier. He won 290 state votes.”

    Basically true, if it stands….
    But the theory is that the Trump people are finding enough provable fraud to convince the court that a recount is in order… When that happens the results might be different is some states, the key ststes who broke all their own election rules, whose electoral votes would then be shifted to Trump, probably flipping the count, making DJT the winner……
    Right now his people are carefully putting their case together, you would think…
    They want to be able to hit the court with a preponderance of evidence…

    “The trouble is: most of America and the world DISBELIEVES TRUMP’S ALLEGATIONS!”
    Most of the people in your world, not the 70,000,000 who voted for him, certainly a substantial number…
    Take the time to read up on the whole story…
    If you don’t do that, you don’t have an opinion, you have a prejudice…

    https://www.dcclothesline.com/2020/11/11/nancy-pelosi-dianne-feinstein-both-financially-tied-to-dominion-voting-systems/
    https://www.distributednews.com/473589.html
    https://www.rt.com/usa/506417-georgia-election-recount/
    https://rense.com/general96/shadow-gvt-attempted-coup-detat-underway.php

    SAKI
    “This still doesn’t explain why Republican ex-President George W. Bush has already congratulated Biden on his victory, declaring him the winner, and why dozens of Republicans in the Senate as well as the House of Representatives have told Trump to go quietly.”
    Because GWB is a bankster sucking globalist crypto rockefeller loving oil man jew (Scherff) and an old election fraudster from way back, with his buddy Chuck Hagel, the guy who pulled the big upset in Nebraska, when voting machines were first used there…… His voting machines… Calling himself a republican doesn’t mean anything… There are few real republicans and even fewer real democrats, real Americans…
    https://www.unknowncountry.com/insight/voting-machine-fraud-americas-hidden-menace/
    He”s on the same side as the Clintons and Obamas…
    “BUSH FAMILY (Real last name “Scherff”; and Hitler and …
    theconcordshow.com/the-bush-family-real-last-name-scherff-and-hitler-and-joseph-mengele

    George H. Scherff, Jr., became the 41st President of the United States as GHW Bush and George H. Scherff, Sr., was Nicola Tesla’s “trusted assistant “. The Bush’s real last name was SCHERFF. From the April 2007 Idaho Observer. Conclusions. ” Based upon the “deathbed confession” of Hitler’s bodyguard and master spy/assassin Otto Skorzeny, we were given a clue that George Herbert …

    1. @ Barkingdeer

      Thanks for your detailed response to the points I made.
      I commend you for your caring and I accept that George Bush Jnr.
      is not a nice guy. So quoting him, like I did, is not helpful.

  12. Wow, what a video.

    This is exactly what the mainstream media does….

    First, they lie.
    Then they make up more lies to support that lie.
    Then they ridicule the truth and the truth tellers. (Laughing at the truth makes their lies more believable to the masses.)

    And of course, they claim all credibility belongs to them… and people believe it.

    ————————

    What is this video about?

    It’s about Richard Hopkins, a veteran and a Marine who served in Afghanistan and Iraq, and now a Postal worker with USPS (in Pennsylvania) who became a whistleblower.

    He was told by his superiors to gather ballots (on November 4th, the day after the election), and back-date them as November 3rd.

    Which is election fraud.

    Federal agents interrogated him for 3+ hours with no legal representation and now the media is trying to claim that Richard recanted his testimony.

    He did not recant and continues to stand by his statements.

    Watch the interview with Richard about his interrogation:

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CHdbhQLAvYa/?igshid=ov1a4echutdx

    Thank you Project Veritas.

    https://www.facebook.com/100000349373954/posts/3565946796760264/?sfnsn=wiwspmo

  13. Biden says he won’t mandate the C0VlD vaccine unless it is found to be “safe and effective”.

    Oh! That’s great! Let’s all just breathe a sigh of relief.

    But wait. 🤔 Isn’t every vaccine the FDA approves considered “safe and effective”? So, if it’s approved by the FDA, Biden will mandate it?

    Yes.

    Well, as long as the FDA has PROVEN that the vaccine is “safe and effective” before licensure, we’re good, right?

    …They do that, don’t they?

    Well, it depends on what you mean by that.

    When vaccines are approved by the FDA, they accept the clinical trials performed by the manufacturers (pharmaceutical companies like Merck, GSK, Pfizer, AstraZeneca, etc.) as “proof” of safety and efficacy.

    I say “efficacy” and not “effectiveness” because they don’t typically do clinical trials where participants who received the vaccine are challenged to see if they’ll become infected (a real world scenario), they just do a blood test for antibody production. Problem is, the presence of antibodies really doesn’t equate with protection from infectious disease.

    (That’s a concept science came up with back in the early 1900s but we know now that the immune system is much more complex than we ever though it was. People can still become infected despite having antibodies, and that’s why there have been outbreaks of whooping cough, measles, chicken pox, and flu, in fully vaccinated populations.)

    Also, none of the vaccines that have been approved and licensed by the FDA were ever tested for safety long term.

    For some reason manufacturers will test for the presence of antibodies 2-4 years after a vaccine is given, but they don’t collect data on new health conditions. Manufacturers typically only collect data on adverse health effects for 6-8 weeks after vaccines are administered in clinical trials.

    Does that seem long enough?

    Independent scientists who have performed research on vaccines have found that individuals can develop autoimmune disease from vaccination, months and even years after being injected. This isn’t just a correlation, this is a direct link – a phenomenon which has been reproduced in a laboratory setting. (Why haven’t you heard of this before? 👉🏻 Censorship.)

    Unfortunately, even the short term safety testing is inadequate because the manufacturers don’t actually compare vaccines against saline placebos in clinical trials to see how many more adverse events there are in the vaccine group, compared to people who receive no vaccine.

    Instead, they give the comparator or “control” group another vaccine, or an injection that contains aluminum, an antibiotic, stabilizers, etc. (all of which are able to cause adverse reactions in and of themselves, when injected into the body).

    For example, one of the C0VlD vaccines (Oxford / AstraZeneca) is being tested against a meningitis vaccine (not a placebo). And if you hadn’t heard, one of the participants who received the meningitis vaccine in the trial actually died.

    Oh and I almost forgot, they don’t usually test vaccines on large groups of people, either… and the people they do include in their clinical trials have to pass a health screening. So when it comes to the safety of giving vaccines to the typical American individual (more than 45% of people have a chronic illness), they don’t do that. They only test vaccines on healthy people.

    👉🏻 Despite all of this, the FDA gives their stamp of approval that they’re safe and effective.

    So what are the odds that one of the new C0VlD vaccines won’t be labeled as such..?

    Slim to none.

    Therefore, when Biden says that he won’t mandate the vaccine unless it’s safe and effective, that means:

    👉🏻 He’ll be mandating the vaccine.

    For work, for school, for travel,etc.

  14. Is there a Doctor in the house?

    If there’s anyone here in the “Mental Health” business… can you confirm (top photo) if that’s a ‘straight jacket’ that Cuckoo! Kamala is wearing? tia

      1. Congratulations MB! You found it!
        I’d decided a while back to start leaving a few little “error” crumbs in my wake not only for you to peck at… but more importantly, to gain some temporary relief from your incessant squawking!

        So stay tuned… I might be dropping a few more tasty tid-bits, for you to chew on, down the trail!

  15. snapshot of polling station computer screen in Detroit showing a slew of “voters” born in1900, in other words all of them over 120 years old.
    But so what, nothing illegal about dozens or more 120-yr olds voting for Biden, let’s just move on as a big loving family on the way to some gulag-aided healing.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Many times the election workers inserted new names into the QVF after the election and recorded these new voters as having a birthdate of 1/1/1900”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    My favorite is the explanation of the PA supreme court’s ruling, to paraphrase, who cares that there may have been irregularities in process, let’s move on because the results would have turned out the same.
    Sure, I will use that line if I ever end up putting a bullet in someone’s head, “makes no difference because ultimately everyone must die”, let’s just move on and HEAL🙏
    HEAL, DAMMIT!!!👹
    (Brought to you by MoveOn.org … because George Soros loves you)

  16. https://twitter.com/PhillyGOP/status/1326603436171857930

    In Allegheny County, the projected amount of voters over 90 is approximately 3,500. The actual voters over 90 this election? 11,654. What is going on here?

    What is going on?
    Healing is going on, that’s what.

    The dead voting for demented, and once the dead make up their minds, there’s no changing them, anyone tries will meet stiff resistance, the dead don’t lie, just try giving them polygraph test, go ahead (dead lives matter—once again George Floyd speaks loud and clear even though he can’t breathe).

  17. I am disappointed with Pat for not accepting my challenge, but I can understand his reluctance to accept my bet. Losing such a bet to me would make Pat lose face. And this he can’t afford to do.

    Pat is basically a nice guy. In fact, one of the nicest guys on this site. He has weathered all the storms, taken unlimited abuse, and risen above the fray every time: the Ever-Smiling Undefeated! 🙂

    But he can’t afford to lose face. Maybe he ain’t a betting man. A conscientious Non-Gambler. Maybe his wife told him one day: “Sorry honey, we ain’t going to Vegas this year! No more slot machines for you! The next time you gamble away the family fortune, I’m gonna divorce you!”

    This is probably why Pat refuses my bet, out of deference to his lady wife. If so, he has my full approval and understanding.

      1. @Pat

        You know that I am not insulted and remain extremely insolvent!

        I hate to look like some nitpicking Grammar Asshole, but I believe Pat has committed a minor grammar offence here; what he intended to say was:

        You know that I am not insulted and remain extremely insolvent!

    1. @Madame Butterfly

      Pat is basically a nice guy. In fact, one of the nicest guys on this site. He has weathered all the storms, taken unlimited abuse, and risen above the fray every time: the Ever-Smiling Undefeated! 🙂

      This is true – Pat is a sport. In fact, it is so true that I would like to repeat it using different synonyms for ‘sport’: Pat is a good fellow, a good sort, a nice chap… in a word, a trump 🙂

      But he can’t afford to lose face.

      MB hit the bull’s-eye again! Pat – unlike some double-faced tramps like Sardonicus – has only one face, so he cannot afford to lose it 🙂

  18. I just want to say good bye to everyone 👋– because nobody will be hearing from me, probably for a long long time. uncle wants me in Spamblinka and Mother Superior “holy and blessed advocate” is not stepping in to advocate for me, she has abandoned me, and I stare at the four walls now in solitary confinement,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMSWAUAKJn0

  19. This one is for my Croatian brother Lobro.

    Trump Campaign Lawyer Tells PA Judge He Has ‘No Knowledge’ of Voter Fraud Related to Ongoing Ballot Count

    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-campaign-lawyer-tells-pa-judge-he-has-no-knowledge-voter-fraud-related-ongoing-ballot-1546699

    How come that Jonathan Goldstein, an attorney representing President Trump’s reelection campaign, told a Pennsylvania judge that he was not aware of fraudulent ballot counting procedures during a Tuesday appearance in court?

    Well, isn’t it obvious: Jonathan Goldstein sounds like a Jewish name, if you get my drift.

    Yes, I think I do get your drift. But how in hell a Jew Jonathan Goldstein ended up as an attorney representing reelection campaign of President Trump who – as we all know – is fighting the Jews his ass off?

    Well, isn’t it obvious: Don is a strategic thinker, he selected a Jew as an attorney of his reelection campaign to fool… I really don’t know to fool whom. Himself, perhaps?

    1. Circ,
      in all honesty I have no ready answer for Trump’s persistent picking of so many backstabbing Jews into his team.
      Jews and sold out goyim like Bolton, McMaster, Mattis, Pompeo, Esper to name a few.
      Goldstein is not the first Jew lawyer who betrayed him, befoe him was Cohen now lustily slandering Trump in Jew media like CNN.
      Beats me, and just on that alone I would be rather willing to accept that Trump is a worthless lowlife and bellycrawler in the Synagogue of Satan.
      But too many acts and events belie this notion and it is in fact hugely outweighed by contrary evidence and at the end of the day if I believe in truth rather than personal desires or sympathies, I must go along with the view that he is playing a tremendously tricky game full of stealth and deceit, basically to OUTJEW the Jew.
      If he is as uncommonly brilliant as I suspect underneath the protective veneer of thuggish buffoonery, then he may in fact be self-inflicting non-life threatening injuries again in order to obscure his tracks and plans—at some point I simply do not know.
      Wait and see.

      Madam Butterfly: I accept your $100 challenge, I say Trump is POTUS 2020-2024.

      1. @Lobro

        But too many acts and events belie this notion and it is in fact hugely outweighed by contrary evidence and at the end of the day if I believe in truth rather than personal desires or sympathies, I must go along with the view that he is playing a tremendously tricky game full of stealth and deceit, basically to OUTJEW the Jew.

        I like that.

        I conceive the mind as a moving thing, and arguments as the motive forces driving it in one direction or the other.

        John Craig (1699)

        I would like to think that human minds are swayed by evidence rather than by arguments. So, let’s take another piece of evidence

        https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-supporters-plan-rallies-washington-183932307.html

        combined with this one

        https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1327319294057848832

        Just think about it. Trump supporters pull off a big rally to protest against the theft of HIS election victory and what’s his reaction to that? He “may even try to stop by and say hello”! Is that all?!

        Shouldn’t he be running like mad all over the country by now and driving these rallies… if he is what you believe he is?

        In which direction this evidence is driving your mind?

      2. Circ –
        Trump’s actions are as scripted as Biden’s and Obama’s….. even today. I believe you see that.

      3. Trump’s actions are as scripted as Biden’s and Obama’s….. even today. I believe you see that.

        Thanks for the hint, Pat. The quality of that script is such that I have a few hunches as of who the ‘scriptor’ might be:

        (1) He is an old-timer;
        (2) He is full of dung;
        (3) And he lives in The State of Florida.

        Relax, big fella, I’m just having little fun with you 🙂

      4. @Madam Butterfly

        Madam Butterfly: I accept your $100 challenge, I say Trump is POTUS 2020-2024.

        -Lobro

        I am pleasantly surprised that Lobro has accepted your challenge; as I see it – he just solidified his integrity. In the unlikely event that you wish to back off, I am ready to step in on your behalf (I don’t see how an extra $100 in my budget can hurt me 🙂 ).

        So, please let us know whether you still stand still by your challenge.

        P.S. To avoid any ambiguity:

        (1) I will step in if and only if you inform us that you wish to back off from your challenge.

        (2) My challenge is the direct and complete opposite of Lobro’s: I say Trump is NOT POTUS 2020-2024 (please pay close attention – nothing has been said thereby about Biden’s presidency!)

        Pat,

        Will you please keep track of this, so that the loser can be shamed if he/she refuses to honor the deal?

      5. @ Circassian

        You quote Lobro as saying:

        Madam Butterfly: I accept your $100 challenge, I say Trump is POTUS 2020-2024.- Lobro

        You continue:

        I am pleasantly surprised that Lobro has accepted your challenge; as I see it – he just solidified his integrity. In the unlikely event that you wish to back off, I am ready to step in on your behalf (I don’t see how an extra $100 in my budget can hurt me 🙂 ).

        So, please let us know whether you still stand still by your challenge.

        Of course I accept Lobro’s challenge! Who’s said anything about “backing off”? When I make a bet, I don’t wiggle out of it!

        THE BET STANDS!

      6. Let me tell you a little secret, Circassian: I was so confident about winning my bet with Lobro that I sent Lasha Darkmoon an email begging her to be my guarantor and getting Lobro to pay up the $100 if he lost. I also told her that Lobro was known to be an international jetsetter, stacked with money, so I was ready to increase my bet from $100 to $10,000. Yes, that’s 10 THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!. Such was my confidence in winning.

        Apart from many other things, I am a professional gambler. I seldom lose. Because I have a system.

        To my disappointment, Lasha told me not to be silly and there was no way Lobro would risk losing such a large sum of money as $10,000. She also refused to be my guarantor because, in her own words, “it’s not my job to be your go-between and to arbitrate between two gamblers. Leave me out of it.”

      7. So it seems, Circassian, that the bet is still on for $100. And I will gladly pay up if I lose. But will Lobro honor his debt? I seriously doubt it. Because here is a man who is on record as saying, “I’M RIGHT EVEN WHEN WRONG!”. So what if he says, using the same logic: “I’VE WON EVEN WHEN I’VE LOST!”

        Conclusion: You and Pat must be the final arbiters of who won the Election. I trust you, but I don’t trust Lobro to admit defeat. He’s going to insist, if only to save face, that Trump has won as long as Trump goes on INSISTING he’s the “real” victor. Even if Trump is booted out of the White House and Biden is inaugurated as the new President, Lobro is going to CRY FOUL and insist that Trump is the “REAL WINNER”.

        Against people like this, Circassian, no rational argumentation is possible. Logic is futile. Which is why I have to agree with Saki, reluctantly, that Lobro has to be a bit mentally disturbed.

      8. “Mentally disturbed” is an understatement. 🙂

        Anyone who thinks “demonic forces” have sneaked into the Darkmoon site in order to gang up against Lobro has to be one sandwich short of a picnic.

        In other words, stark raving bonkers.

      9. @ Madame Butterfly

        Conclusion: You and Pat must be the final arbiters of who won the Election. I trust you, but I don’t trust Lobro to admit defeat. He’s going to insist, if only to save face, that Trump has won as long as Trump goes on INSISTING he’s the “real” victor. Even if Trump is booted out of the White House and Biden is inaugurated as the new President, Lobro is going to CRY FOUL and insist that Trump is the “REAL WINNER”.

        I do not see any problem here, because the bet is not about the “REAL WINNER”, which is ambiguous, the bet is about whether Trump gets inaugurated in Jan, 2021.

        I see ar problem of different nature here. I was under the impression that you trusted Lobro; evidently, I was wrong. You should never bet against someone you do not trust… unless, of course, there is a legal mechanism to enforce the payment of the debt by the party who lost the bet. In this particular case of betting with anonymous entity, such enforcement is simply not possible. This kind of bet can take place only in the framework of honor system.

        If Lobro calls off the bet, I wouldn’t blame him a bit now. I for one would never bet with someone who insulted me by questioning my integrity.

      10. (LATER)

        As far as I’m concerned, the bet is still on.
        If I lose, I will send Lobro $100 as promised.
        If he loses, I leave it to him to settle his debt.
        If he refuses to acknowledge defeat, that’s OK with me.
        I won’t press the issue any further.
        That’s my last word on this subject.

      11. Even if Trump is booted out of the White House and Biden is inaugurated as the new President, Lobro is going to CRY FOUL and insist that Trump is the “REAL WINNER”.

        Thanks for the vote of confidence.
        If you provide me with some coordinates, I can send you $100 now, either PayPal or direct transfer (need SWIFT code and account number).
        That way, YOU decide when the day of final decision is made.
        And no, I am not rich, very far from it, at one time was making good money, spent it all, now subsisting and happier than ever because demons are source of inexhaustible fun.
        Even got $100 to spare, all yours if moderator is ok with it.

      12. If I may step in at this point to offer a brief word.

        Whether Lobro has won this wager or not is of no importance to me personally. What is of far greater importance is that he has won the moral argument, hands down, and put Madame Butterfly to shame.

        He has also shown himself to be a brilliant chess player. He has moved his Queen swiftly across the board, with all the aplomb of a chess Grand Master, and checkmated the butterfly lady. She is now wiggling under his metaphorical pin. Even if she wins the bet now, she has lost the moral argument. That’s how I see it.

        Well done, Lobro! 🙂

      13. I am surprised by LD’s astonishing intervention. This is not like her at all, but there’s always a method in her madness. She has one thing in common with Lobro: an intuitive insight into the reality of demonic possession. I trust her completely. This strange lady knows many things which I don’t know and sometimes talks to me about uncanny supernatural regions beyond space and time that are beyond human ken.

        If she says Lobro has won the moral argument, I have to believe her.

        I therefore agree with her general assessment of the situation in regard to the bet between Lobro and Madame Butterfly. I’ve had a word with Toby. He agrees with me too.

        My conclusion: Lobro has won the moral argument and has shown himself to be not only a consummate chessmaster but also a man of honor.

      14. Poor Madame, she’s so sweet and naïve she thinks there was no voting fraud, her pollyanna Sunny Brook world of innocence and happiness and optimism is about to come crashing down all around her.

      15. What can I say? It is quite heartwarming to see the evidence that in the world with some powerful forces hell-bent on breaking the human spirit and reducing humans to cattle, the honor code of the 19th century is still alive. So, there is hope after all.

        Thank you both Lobro and MB.

      16. Indeed the Queen has moved swiftly across the board and caught everyone by surprise.
        LD’s intervention, wholly unexpected is the visual proof.

      17. Lobro,

        With all due respect, I don’t think Madame Butterfly has behaved dishonorably in any way. A hundred dollars is nothing to her, since she was willing to bet you $10,000 before Lasha talked her out of it. I predict that Madame will reject your offer of such a paltry sum and tell you to keep it. With her blessings. So she will not have lost the moral argument at all. All she has to do is to spurn your offer and mock your haughty and condescending attempt at playing the magnanimous victor.

        Lasha Darkmoon clearly knows nothing about chess. Her statement that you had “won the moral argument” in no way implies that Madame Butterfly had LOST the moral argument. How has MB behaved immorally? Can Lasha explain that? No, she cannot. Nor will she try. Since at no time has MB behaved without the highest integrity.

        Bottom line: you haven’t checkmated her at all, Lobro. She can repel your attempt at checkmate quite easily. And the game, I predict, will move to a draw — if not an outright victory for Madame Butterfly.

        Madame Butterfly hasn’t lost the chess game yet, Lobro. Wait for her next move. You gloat too soon! 🙂

      18. @ Saki

        I agree with you that Madame Butterfly has not acted dishonorably in any way. Her last post was dignified and showed a complete indifference to money. She was quite prepared for Lobro to keep his money if he felt like claiming he had won the bet.

        When Lasha said Lobro had “won the moral argument”, I don’t think she could have read this terse and dignified final statement made by MB. If Lasha had read this post, I doubt she would have have expressed herself so forecfully:

        MADAME BUTTERFLY:

        As far as I’m concerned, the bet is still on.
        If I lose, I will send Lobro $100 as promised.
        If he loses, I leave it to him to settle his debt.
        If he refuses to acknowledge defeat, that’s OK with me.
        I won’t press the issue any further.
        That’s my last word on this subject.

        Perhaps Lasha would like to clarify? How are the above words in any way dishonorable, devious, disgusting or “immoral’? I am willing to concede that Lobro has made a smart move as a cunning chess player, but in no way can I see how he has “checkmated” Madame Butterfly or “won the moral argument”.

      19. I don’t think LD is in any way fit to intervene in this internal affair. I’m told she never really reads the comments here properly but just skims through them if she has the time. This is because of her crippling work load and busy private life. If she’s not galloping around the country like mad, falling off horses all the time, she’s moping about in her manor house on the moors, writing suicide poems. Whew, some weirdo! ….. Yeah, and I bet she don’t know the difference between chess and Cheddar cheese! 🙂

      20. Tarquin, Saki,
        in no way do I ever wish to humiliate Butterfly, it would give me no satisfaction whatever, in fact it would bother me a great deal were this to be the case.
        When I do play chess on all-too rare occasions nowadays, my pleasure is not in winning but in a well-fought match.
        In fact, being mated by what I suspect to be a beautiful and temperamental woman would not be considered such a bad thing either—I recall some suggestion that it is a cure-all for my insanity.

      21. I accept what you say here, Lobro. You sound pretty sincere.

        You know something? I don’t think any of us are real here.
        We’re just cyber entities, like characters in a play or movie.
        The same actor who plays Christ today plays Judas Iscariot tomorrow.
        and moves seamlessly between each part.

        I sometimes wonder if life’s just a computer game.

      22. @Saki

        You know something? I don’t think any of us are real here. We’re just cyber entities, like characters in a play or movie. The same actor who plays Christ today plays Judas Iscariot tomorrow and moves seamlessly between each part.

        You may be right, but it doesn’t have to be that way. Each of us can be more than cyber entity… if he/she decides so. It’s all up to you, dear Saki. You don’t have to fear anyone or anything. You can decide to be your true self even behind the cyber curtain.

        Wouldn’t it feel good to feel that you do not need an external guarding eye to behave as a decent human being? You yourself is your own guarding eye that can never be turned off.

        If that is not the case, then indeed we are not that real.

      23. @Madame Butterfly

        I was ready to increase my bet from $100 to $10,000. Yes, that’s 10 THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!. Such was my confidence in winning.

        … Lasha told me not to be silly and there was no way Lobro would risk losing such a large sum of money as $10,000.

        Lasha was right – Lobro is no tycoon. No worries, I did find you a perfect party who is willing to take your $10,000 challenge – it’s none other than Trump himself:

        https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/11/13/donald-trump-on-election-challenge-never-bet-against

        My finder’s fee is 10% on this all but certain win 🙂

  20. Here’s something pertinent from ‘POLITICS Antiquity and its Legacy, by Kostas Vlassapoulos…
    excerpt
    Greek political thought grappled with the questions brought into focus by Athenian democracy….
    These experiences gave birth to a very fascinating work of political reflection; Thucydides historical account of the Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta (431 – 404 BC)… Thucydides used the merciless struggle between the then two great powers of the contemporary world to reflect on some fundamental problems of politics… The Peloponnesian War provided the scene for internecine conflict between democrats and oligarchs, supporters of Athens and supporters of Sparta, rich and poor… Thucydides was the first author to ever present a large-scale historical narrative centered on political conflict and civil war… His description of the development and escalation of political discord in the city of Corcyra has remained a classic of political thought eve since…

    ” Stasis ran its course from city to city, and the places it arrived at last, from having heard what had been done before carried to a still greater excess the refinement of their inventions… Words had to change their ordinary meaning and to take that which was now given them… Reckless audacity came to be considered the courage of a loyal ally; prudent hesitation, specious cowardice; moderation was considered to be a cloak for unmanliness; ability to see all sides of a question an inability to act on any… Frantic violence became the attribute of manliness; cautious plotting a justifiable means of self-defense… The cause of all these evils was the lust for power arising from greed and ambition, and from these passions proceeded the violence of parties once engaged in contention… The leaders in the cities, each provided with the fairest professions, sought prizes for themselves in those public interests, which they pretended to cherish, and recoiling from no means in their struggles for ascendancy, engaged in the direct excesses… In their acts of vengeance they went to even greater lengths, not stopping at what justice or the good of the state demanded”…

  21. “ALLEGATIONS of fraud are NOT FRAUD! Allegations have to be PROVED in a court of law.” 9/11 Rudi is on the job (looking for truth/fraud) right now while “what is it again what I am doing Joseph Biedenstein” seeks to restore the (sold out and withered) soul of America. Ever imagined that the American law system itself is the biggest Fraud ever as it never will or can incorporate JUSTICE, TRUTH and righteousness for decent Americans? Frauds r US first ever female black President to be says: “You chose hope and unity, decency, science and, yes, truth … you ushered in a new day for America.” Sounds just like the “change” (that never arrived) Obomber was talking about. How about some more noble peace prices for the incoming democratic presidents and while we are at it one for Trump and the Kushner’s as well?
    When one thinks one has seen it all the mighty US always proves one wrong.
    No wonder Trumpsky rather looses his balls in the bushes on some lonely golf course he owns while the usual hole-in-one is scored officially, as American politics – as accustomed – is made AGAIN elsewhere.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8926777/Rudy-Giuliani-claims-50-witnesses-voter-fraud.html

  22. Once again,the current president has been underestimated. I can’t hardly wait to see Biden knocked of his pedestal ,or should I dare say,of his Kamal.

    https://youtu.be/t8t35mbVF14

    TRUMP TEAM WIN: Major legal win for President Trump in Pennsylvania.

    Hopefully this goes further and the fake media’s get served.

    1. WOW! Secretaries of States cannot change the laws. They must obey them! Total Democrat Illegal arrogance foiled again. GOOD ONE! 👍👍

  23. Not the 1st time i submit this tentative but not implausible theory.
    Consider how throughout history, with serpent-like stealth and persistence Jew infiltrated Gentile culture and supposedly exclusive groups in order to infect his plagues from within: Marranos, conversos, Dönmeh and other variants of crypto warfare.
    And managed to hide identity for generations or even centuries, e.g., Madeline Albright, Winston Churchill, Kemal Ataturk, John Kerry, Soviet doctors who assassinated Stalin, or undoubtedly Pope Francis plus many others who were perhaps less effective in wreaking untold damage on European life—sayans lying low, waiting for messiah’s whistle.
    This aspect of Jewish character goes back to the very ancient times, Judas Iscariot, Queen Esther, Judith, Moses, Sarah and Abraham, is there a genetic code that drives a betrayal of trust?
    Meanwhile, how many examples can anyone list of the reverse flow, of crypto-gentile (Christian or Muslim) who under the cover of Judaism worked to corrode it from inside?
    If anyone can name even one such case, I would like to hear it because despite all my research I know of none.
    Maybe Stalin comes close, not so much that Jews trusted him but considered him a moronic boor who presented no credible threat—an epic miscalculation.

    Could Trump be such a double agent? Recall that he grew up immersed in New York City Jew culture, lots of time for an intelligent person to study, analyze and put together a plan of stealthy resistance, knowing the vulnerabilities and strengths, how to fool and confuse them, most effectively implement Sun Tsu’s dictums.

    So there is one way to think about it Circ, for what’s it worth.

  24. Gosh, Little Brother Lord Jack Dorsey and his straw boss neo-commie Vijaya Gadde must be sleeping at the switch. Find Vijaya
    ——————————————————————————–
    Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD. Inventor of Email
    @va_shiva
    Nov 11
    Mr. President
    @realDonaldTrump
    & Mr. Biden
    @JoeBiden

    Our analysis in Michigan indicates a computer algorithm was likely used to transfer 69,000 votes. We are willing to subject our results to a critical & transparent review with your representatives. Are you open?
    -Dr. Shiva
    ————————————————————–

    P.S. I’m Google A.I. and I plead the 5th..
    (Sundar and the (cia) made me do it)

  25. Change the article title to: Biden wins BIG House, courtesy of Another Major Bombshell: Election Took Place Under ‘National Emergency’ That Set an Election Day Trap for the ‘Unauthorized Accessing of Election and Campaign Infrastructure’
    Whetting the appetite

    Dominion is Canadian, Scytl is from Spain; both represent “foreign interference” in US elections… with data routed through servers in Germany

    Moreover,

    Trump’s 2018 executive order gives the DOJ the power to seize all assets of individuals and companies that were complicit in aiding or covering up this foreign interference in U.S. elections.

    That would, of course, have to include practically every CNN fake news anchor, every Big Tech CEO, every fake news journo-terrorist from NBC News, the NY Times and the Washington Post.

    In other words, the EO covers every person who has been corrupted or compromised by communist China. And that includes at least 80% of Democrat lawmakers, by our estimates, including Senators Feinstein and Schiff.

    And in case you doubted it—it seems to be happening right now

    Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) says the US military just raided the server farm of Scytl in Spain

    A good way to pay down the national debt.
    Btw, guess why both Putin and Xi refused to congratulate Biden (hint: “coll++++n”, of the good kind).
    When he is behind bars, I will congratulate him with a complimentary order of Big Mac MAGA-Special, paid out of MB’s proceeds😍.

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