Coronavirus Bombshell: Nobel Laureate Reveals Covid-19 Made In Lab From HIV-Virus

By Lasha Darkmoon
April 20, 2020

PUBLISHED ON TRUTHSEEKER

Can the world be depopulated by deliberate infection with the HIV-virus, giving millions of people AIDS?  If not, can compulsory vaccination wreak equal havoc?

PROFESSOR  LUC  MONTAGNIER
NOBEL  LAUREATE  FOR  MEDICINE (2008)

The esteemed French scientist has been denounced as a dangerous “conspiracy theorist” for daring to suggest that Covid-19  “is a genetically manipulated supervirus created in a laboratory” with the help of the deadly HIV virus. This produces AIDS, and could theoretically be used as a bioweapon to depopulate entire countries without the need for overt military warfare.   

The much respected Australian political researcher, Peter Myers, is of the opinion that the Coronavirus event is a far bigger scandal than Watergate and the Pentagon Papers. The truth, he believes,  is being suppressed in an unprecedented way.

Myers,  in a detailed report he has circulated privately consisting of 12 impeccably sourced articles, wrote yesterday:

I reported searches I did yesterday at 25 news sites, mostly MSM, which showed active suppression of Luc  Montagnier’s statements that Covid-19 was bred in a Lab.

Being such an eminent scientist, the one who discovered the HIV virus, Montagnier’s assessment is of first-rate credibility. Yet his comments were entirely ignored by the English-language MSM; in the French-language media, he was rubbished as a “Conspiracy Theorist” and “Fake News”.

Today I repeated the searches, beginning at 7.46am AEST today, Sun April 19, 2020, specifying “past 24 hours”, and the results were the same.

Myers goes on to add that belated reporting of Montagnier’s controversial thesis is to be found in yesterday’s UK Sunday Times, with a related report in The Daily Mail. The bulk of the globalist media, however, has refused to go near the story. This includes the New York Times, the BBC, The Guardian, Reuters, and the Economist. Myers is deeply concerned at this concerted effort to suppress the work of a prestigious Nobel Prize winning scientist who may have have been the first, he thinks, to stumble on the appalling truth.

Myers writes: “This is the biggest cover-up in world history, the one that impacts all people in the world, and is destroying nearly all economies. How will the people of the world react when they discover that our ‘leaders’ and news media are complicit?”

Montagnier’s research findings carry enormous weight because of his unblemished reputation as a world-renowned scientist.  In 2008, after all, Montagnier  discovered the human immunodeficiency virus HIV as the cause of the AIDS epidemic. As a result,  he won the Nobel Prize for Medicine that year together with Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Harald zur Hausen

Montagnier, in short, is no lightweight who can be dismissed contemptuously as a “conspiracy theorist”.

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This comment comes from French reporter Francis Pouliot, working for ibtimes.sg in Singapore, not to be confused with ibtimes.com:

“Holy shit. French virologist, Nobel prize winner for discovery of the HIV virus, just went on TV to reveal there is proof that #COVID-19 was engineered and artificially laced with parts of the HIV virus (not natural) and authorities tried to keep it quiet.”

If true, that’s a sensational revelation.

“What are these Mad Scientists up to?” one is tempted to ask. “Are they trying to create Frankenstein viruses in laboratories which could then be used in biowarfare to depopulate entire populations by giving them AIDS and similar debilitating diseases?”

According to the globalists, seven billion people is far too much for the world to sustain. It leads to massive plastic pollution of the oceans and causes irreparable ecological damage. Ideally, it is argued, world population should be brought down to well under one billion. Get rid of six billion people, and just think how nice it would be to number among the lucky survivors.

Malthus would certainly have approved.

Instead of living in a poky high-rise apartment and commuting to work in a crowded train, crammed into a small space with your fellow commuters like sardines, you are now—after depopulation à la Malthus—living in an earthly paradise where you own a spacious mansion by the sea, surrounded by hundreds of acres of lush vegetables gardens and orchards. And once again you will be able to swim in a pristine clean ocean, the “wine-dark sea” of the Ancient Greeks celebrated by Homer a thousand years before Christ.

Ah, happy golden days of the New World Order!

The trouble is, you’re not going to be around to live that dream—life in Utopia when tikkun olam has been accomplished— if they’ve infected you and your family with AIDS or killed you off with compulsory vaccines.

The secret is to survive by being Bill Gates or one of the chosen elite. Not that one billion people will inherit the earth and live an idyllic life thereafter. The bulk of the population, roughly 90 per cent, will be slaves, serving the needs of a powerful oligarchy of the Chosen Ones. In order to succeed, this would have to be a strictly stratified society with its rigid caste system, in which those who serve do so willingly and those who rule do so wisely and well in the common interests of all.   

I don’t use that loaded word “chosen” to imply that this is a conspiracy for Jewish world domination. Though the idea of tikkun olam, Hebrew for “repairing of the world”, is admittedly of Jewish origin, the same idea of creating heaven on earth, or an Earthly Paradise, is a common feature of every civilisation that has ever existed. You will find it running like a golden thread through The Epic of Gilgamesh, Plato’s Republic, Milton’s Paradise Lost, Thomas More’s Utopia, and in many other works of art too numerous to name.

The idea of an Earthly Paradise, of heaven on earth, is innate in the human heart. It is an eternal archetype. And yet there has never been a Utopia in the real world.

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Le Parisien dismisses Professor  Montagnier  as an alarmist conspiracy theorist. It notes disparagingly:

“According to this scientist, the Covid-19 disease virus is of human origin. It would have been created in a Chinese laboratory in Wuhan.

Based on a study published by “his” mathematician Jean-Claude Pérez, who “delved into the smallest details of the sequence” of the virus, Professor Montagnier argues that SARS-CoV-2 contains “sequences of a another virus which is HIV, the AIDS virus”.

He adds that a “group of Indian researchers tried to publish an analysis” of the same type and that it was withdrawn “under enormous pressure”.

Le Parisien scoffs at this claim. It points out that the Indian research, far from being “suppressed”, was withdrawn voluntarily by the Indian biomathematicians after it was “quickly invalidated by other work”.

Those who persist in believing falsely that coronavirus was released into the environment accidentally by careless and incompetent Chinese researchers in Wuhan, the Le Parisien report concludes, are taking these first-class Chinese scientists “for idiots and imagine  they are playing sorcerer’s apprentices in their laboratories.”

The latest news report from the London Times seeks to cast more light on this murky subject but succeeds only in adding to the general fog. In an article entitled, Curse of the ‘Bat Woman’ — what went on in Wuhan lab?, the Times states:

China’s “bat woman” was attending a conference with colleagues in Shanghai in late December when an urgent phone call came from her boss at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. People were falling sick from a mysterious new virus just a few miles from the institute. And Shi Zhengli, who had earned her nickname for her virus-hunting expeditions to bat caves, was summoned back to the central Chinese city to lead the laboratory’s investigations of samples taken from patients.

Here is a picture of Shi Zhengli , the world-famous chiropterologist (aka ‘batologist’), who has spent more time lurking around Chinese caves hunting for virus-laden bats than she’s spent on the telephone ordering Chinese takeaways:

SHI  ZHENGLI — ‘THE BAT WOMAN’

Ms Zhengli (also spelt  Zengli) looks refreshingly normal to me — hardly my idea of a batty Mad Scientist .

Shi Zengli is an acclaimed virologist, [the London Times reports] who headed the team that traced the source of the lethal outbreak of Sars — another coronavirus — to horseshoe bats in southern China in 2002-03. She was a joint author of a research paper that warned last year that it was “highly likely” that future coronavirus outbreaks would originate from bats, and an “increased probability” that this would occur in China.

Within eight days of her return from Shanghai to Wuhan in December, her team concluded that the new disease sweeping the city was indeed almost certainly a new bat coronavirus. But Shi was surprised that the cases had emerged so far from the bats’ usual habitat in China’s subtropical south. In comments published by Scientific American magazine, she recalled a nagging fear: “Could they have come from our lab?”

Can this Chinese ‘Bat Woman’ be up to no good, creating vampire bat viruses to suck the blood from Western civilization in the interests of Chinese world domination?

The idea is so absurd you can’t make it up.

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And yet, believe it or not, the Saturday edition of The Daily Mail crosses the line into Conspiracy Theory country by a bizarre exposé, the first of a 3-part series, with the sensational news headline: “CHINA’S DEADLY LEGACY EXPOSED.”  It proposes to discuss “How China will use [the] pandemic to help achieve its goal as No1 world superpower”. 

The article, packed with useful information and important quotes from reputable medical journals and renowned virologists, goes on to question the credentials of the innocent looking Ms Zengli  with the suggestive headline in bold font: “The rise and rise of ‘Bat Woman’.”  There is the implication here of something weird and sinister going on in the background. Do we have a female villain here, straight out of a James Bond thriller, plotting the downfall of Western civilization?

The Daily Mail would like you to think so. It announces breathlessly, as it introduces this oriental Lady Dracula to its readers:

“Now we must consider an almost unthinkable question: is the Chinese government lying about how the world’s biggest pandemic began? It’s little wonder that conspiracy theorists have come to the fore, which brings us to a leading scientist known as ‘Bat Woman’. 

Ah hah! We are now firmly ensconced in James Bond country — with a touch of Bram Stoker and Stephen King thrown in for good measure.

“Did the pandemic truly begin in that Huanan seafood market,”  the Mail asks, “rather than by accident OR EVEN DESIGN in the city’s state-run Institute of Virology as some—including Donald Trump this week—have implied….  The US President said: ‘More and more we’re hearing this story’.” (Emphasis added).

The Mail continues conspiratorially, laying it on with a trowel:

The brilliant Ms. Zengli had other research interests and was experimenting in synthetic viruses which could pass from animals to humans.

Recent research has suggested that SARS-Cov-2 (which causes Covid-19) can pass directly from bats to humans, which poses the question: has she gone too far in playing God, deliberately or otherwise?

Enter the CIA and MI6. Their intervention is a potential game changer in understanding why we are in lockdown: why so many of our grandparents’ generation is dying; why our economy is tanking.

The Mail is clearly leading the vanguard of the “China to Blame” brigade. Donald Trump is not really responsible for the same tendency o demonize China  when he speaks scathingly of “the Chinese virus”. He is simply following the party line of the anti-Chinese conspiracy theorists. All the experts are in agreement that this worldwide plague started in China. But the experts fall into two opposing schools: the moderates and the extremists.

The moderates forbear from getting angry with China and argue (a) that the virus is natural, not man-made in a lab with deliberate intent to cause harm as a bioweapon; and (b) that its escape into the world was accidental, either through the Wuhan live-food market or through an unfortunate slip-up in the Institute of Virology run by the talented Ms. Zengli.

One of these moderates is British born Professor Simon Wain-Hobson of the Pasteur Institute in Paris, who says:

“It is very possible that the Chinese haven’t told the World Health Organization (WHO) and the West everything. And yes, they don’t like the US and Trump. They want to be Number One on a small planet. But an engineered virus? There is nothing about this virus that indicates it’s out of a lab. I say that with the info available and my appreciation of virus evolution.”

British born Professor Eddie Holmes of Sydney University, another world-famous virologist, agrees with the above assessment. “I think there are a number of really clear reasons,” he says, “to believe that this is not in any way a lab construct or a lab escape.”

In other words, he lets Ms. Zengli off the hook.

The virus did not escape from her lab. It was caused by the sale of bats or other tainted meat products from the nearby wetfood market in Wuhan. Indeed, Ms. Zengli carried out exhaustive tests to see if the virus could have escaped from her Institute of Virology, because she was initially worried about this possibility, but she discovered to her relief that no such slip-up could possibly have occurred.

In short, there is no reason whatever to regard the Chinese “Bat Woman” as a reincarnation of Countess Dracula.

The Mail goes on to report that most US scientists belong to the moderate group. They back Professor Wain-Hobson and Professor Holmes to the hilt. They believe the virus is natural, not man-made in a laboratory. And they think  the virus got out into the wider world through contaminated meat products on sale in an unregulated Chinese food market. There was no intent to cause harm. No intent to use Covid-19 as a covert bioweapon against the West.

The most you can do, if you have a xenophobic axe to grind against China, is to blame the Chinese for their “disgusting dietary habits”.

If the Chinese could only get their act together and stop eating dogs and bats and other unmentionable yuckety-yucks, we wouldn’t have this problem in the first place. Good argument. Better still, if you want to be on the safe side, go vegan. Force everyone to eat lettuce and cucumber sandwiches. No more problems!

—   §   —

Here are a few fascinating facts which it would be useful to know:

Covid-19 originated in horseshoe bats, but these bats are unlikely to have infected the human race for the simple reason that most human beings have never seen a horseshoe bat or had personal contact with one. These bats appear to be recluses. They hang out mostly in caves. In any case, they emerge only at night,  like vampire bats.

The way we get infected is indirectly through other animals which have come into contact with the bats.

Dog lovers will be pleased to learn that dogs, for some reason, are safe from infection from these dreadful bats. Not cats though. Domestic cats can get Covid-19 from bats. And from wildcats too. Indeed, one such victim of Covid-19 has been a tiger at the Bronx Zoo in New York.

The bad news is that new research has found that coronavirus has  mutated and created a vast supply of new victims among farm animals. These can then infect humans. You can now get Covid-19 from cats, cows, goats, pigs, sheep, buffalo and pigeons. Civet cats, pangolins and racoons should also be avoided as potential sources of infection. If ever you get lost in the jungle while on holiday in Africa, don’t eat a chimpanzee whatever you do. Or you could end up with the Ebola virus, as African villagers discovered to their cost in 1996.

According to the aforementioned Professor Wain-Hobson, of the Pasteur Institute, the ability of Covid-19 to infect animals that share space with people creates a long-lasting threat to the human race. This is not fear porn. It’s a fact. According to this world-renowned virologist, the new Chinese studies “may have alarming implications.”

We began with another world-renowned expert: French Professor Luc Montagnier, Nobel laureate for Medicine in 2008.  Let us end with him to complete the circle. He belongs to the more extreme school of thought that sees Covid-19 as a man-made virus that could only have been created with evil intent as a bioweapon.

This is why the mainstream media has denounced Montagnier as an irresponsible conspiracy theorist.

His toxic suggestion that the HIV virus is involved, the virus that produces AIDS, has now—pun not intended—gone viral.

VIDEO  :  3.58 mins
(French with English subtitles)

UPDATE (21 April). The video below was available yesterday, with English subtitles. It has now been blocked  and is no longer available on this computer. The message we receive is:

“VIDEO UNAVAILABLE. This video contains content from TV Klan, who has blocked it on copyright grounds.”

We have a clear example here of internet censorship. Free speech is under threat.

170 thoughts to “Coronavirus Bombshell: Nobel Laureate Reveals Covid-19 Made In Lab From HIV-Virus”

  1. Excellent article by Lasha the Slasha and she threw in some humor. The Chinese lady to me does not look like an evil person. Chinese eating bats for 1000’s of years I do not think it came from the market in Wuhan. WWI was started by England because Germany was to be the number one economy in Europe surpassing the british. there are speeches made in the parliament before the war where they say if we don’t take them on now they will overcome us.
    so I say China will be the number one economy and the US was not to stand around while this happened. I say this was a bio attack by israel and the US. China was in the cross hairs cause they invested tens of billions in Iran and they are buying their oil and if attacked by israel China will help. Italy the only country in Europe to side with the Chinese on the silk road. those 3 were the hardest hit .when you unleash a bio attack you get blowback.
    US economy was bankrupt and just before the virus the jew Fed put 6 trillion in the repo markets. it failed. they could not go to the taxpayers for a bailout so with the virus the jews on wall st get trillions.
    when you have the servants of israel Mike “we lied cheated and stole” Plumpeo , tom cotton, ben shapiro mark Levin, the southern bell mrs lindsey graham ,rush Limbaugh etc all puking out anti Chinese propaganda you know it is a jew operation

  2. Thank God for Professor Luc Montagnier!! Thank God for Robert F.Kennedy Junior, and an army of brave people who are willing to speak truth to power. Unfortunately, it seems there are still missing pieces in this sordid story that blame China and forget that Ms Zengli and her partner worked in the lab at Chapel Hill North Carolina and were publishing papers in a long paper trail of their work before they even started up the lab in Wuhan. I’m a Trump fan but I cringe when he leaves out the part about the U.S complicity. I certainly don’t want a war with China over this–clarity is needed. We need to end this bioweapon research for good, stop the extreme animal abuse, and put our resources into finding good anti-virals–NOT VACCINES!

    1. Kapoore,
      There were two scientists in India way back when, that discovered HIV protein attached to COVIS-19 virus. When Toejamicus first heard about the outbreak in China he said to his Wife, “It’s a bio-weapon.” Toejamicus has very little to no scientific training is any of this, just his gut feeling. However, he does like to read and investigate. Not to long ago he read or saw a video that said that this COVID-19 was developed, maybe has an experiment, through natural mutation. An animal, a ferret, like no other animal has cells with receptors very much like humans.
      “Receptor [re-sep´tor] 1. a molecule on the cell surface (cell-surface or membrane receptor) or within a cell, usually in its nucleus (nuclear receptor) that recognizes and binds with specific molecules, producing some effect in the cell; e.g., the cell-surface receptors of immunocompetent cells that recognize antigens, complement components, or …”
      The story goes that someone at the lab maybe in Wuhan infected 50+ generations of the ferrets with a sars virus that eventually mutated into the current human infecting COVID-19 that got loose somehow and stared the current pandemic, and the rest is current history. This COVID-19 is still mutating. The strains in NY and in Northern Italy and maybe Iran are more deadly then other strains such as started in the Washington state retirement home and elsewhere. Whatever the case, the University of North Carolina, Harvard, Fort Detrick weapons lab were involved in someway with the experiments at the level 4 Wuhan Institute of Virology. One can draw their own conclusions as to what this was all about.
      COVID-19 is a dream come true for the Police State, deep state totalitarians and an nightmare for President Trump. The United States of America will never be same and what was started with the takeover of America in 1913 will soon reach it’s ultimate end.
      This is for Pat. Because the pandemic was not allowed to run it’s course with the lockdowns, masks and social separations, herd immunity was prevented. So the 2nd time around with a mutated New Nova COVID-19 could be hell on wheels.

      1. TJ –

        “So the 2nd time around with a mutated New Nova COVID-19 could be hell on wheels.”

        VERY LIKELY…!! 💥 🤢

      2. Pat,

        There may be already millions of Americans that have had the COVID-19, developed immunity, got over it and are none for the worse for ware. This is an unknown because the CDC and the gov. pissed around in universal testing for C-19. The original test was, surprise, carrying the C-19 virus so that anyone tested would be positive. That way the CDC could gin up the numbers as further “evidence” and further spread the virus as reason for the lock down of the population and the anti-social separations. When caught with their teat in the ringer the CDC said the original C-19 test was “defective”. Ha! The whole idea in “flattening the curve” is to preclude herd immunity, and stretching out the contagion over a longer time to give psychopath Billy Vaccine Gates and big-pharma time to come up with a C-19 toxic vaccine that may be more deadly in the long run then the virus itself.

    2. well, if he was to mention u.s. complicity, he would have to talk about the obama and clinton administrations, and he’s trying not to play that game. those guys, with their partners in the dem party, opened us up to china and they’ve taken advantage of it. President trump is trying to close that door.

  3. Great article, Lasha!
    You noted:
    “The esteemed French scientist has been denounced as a dangerous “conspiracy theorist” for daring to suggest that Covid-19 “is a genetically manipulated supervirus created in a laboratory” with the help of the deadly HIV virus. This produces AIDS, and could theoretically be used as a bioweapon to depopulate entire countries without the need for overt military warfare.”

    “…..without the need for overt military warfare.” That is so very CORRECT!

    I have been writing for years that the fake nukes are not needed…. the NEW fear porn is an itty-bitty virus.
    Nuke fear porn has fallen short over the last 80 years. There’s a NEW KID in town, to soak even MORE $$$$ from the global sheep!!

    With a virus loosed on the populace, buildings remain intact for use by the elite, so NO phony ‘neutron bomb’ needed either!

    1. Excellent comment, Pat! Nukes no longer needed. A virus will do the trick just as well and leave property intact for the elite. Sounds too good to be true! 🙂

      However, I can pick holes in your ‘NO NUKES EXIST” hypothesis, but I won’t right now. No point flogging a dead horse.

      Just two points though. Nukes actually destroy the country they target, as the Japanese learned to their cost at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Yes, I know you don’t believe nukes were ever used against Japan. Just conventional weapons as against Germany. (Firebombing).

      But the thing about a virus is it’s not a silver bullet. A virus doesn’t know it’s meant to hit a particular country. It can backfire and hit the hitter. It can boomerang — and the biter gets bitten.

      No point if X tries to poison Y ….. and X gets poisoned also! 🙂

      P.S. Yes, excellent article. Lots to think about here!

    2. good point, pat, and the democrats are falling right into place, by refusing to allow “herd immunity” to take place, as it did during all the previous pandemics, and as it’s happening in sweden now.

  4. @ SPQR

    Excellent first comment! There are so many conspiracy theories swirling round that Lasha has an open mind about about them. I think she’s quite willing to believe that the US and Israel could have had a hand in this Covid-19 thing. She may have even suggested that herself in a previous article.

      1. In a previous article LD proposed the conspiracy theory — she even admitted it was her own unproven “conspiracy theory” — that ITALY had been deliberately targeted to destroy its economy and grab hold of its vast wealth that is housed in the Vatican and in the country’s art galleries and museums. This amounts to several TRILLIONS of dollars.

        She said the most likely attacker on Italy, through the Covid-19 pandemic or plandemic, was Israel and the US working in cahoots … trying to grab hold of Italy’s vast wealth.

        (Most of the world’s art galleries and auction houses are owned by Jews, LD has shown in one of her earliest articles, “The Plot Against Art”, which you will find in The Occidental Observer).

        However, LD found out only last week that huge real estate holdings, private companies, and other valuable Italian assets had been BOUGHT UP BY CHINA! …

        Yes, China already owns a huge chunk of Italy! This is something for you to consider.

        Turn your attention also to America and England, especially New York and London. Who owns huge numbers of million dollar houses in New York and London? The answer: the Chinese. The Chinese and the Russians between them are the New Rich, buying up huge chunks of New York and London.

        Chinese billionaires and Russian billionaires have never had it so good!

        Maybe the Jews have something to do with this. I don’t know. Your guess is as good as mine. 🙂

        — Sister Monica
        (Assistant Moderator)

      2. ADMIN :

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      3. @ TROJ

        Your comment was not published because you said nothing worth saying. Try and write a polite, concise, well-informed comment and it will be published. BTW, no more comments about sex between horses and human females please. Try and remember this is not a porn site.

      4. @ SPQR70AD

        Sister Monica the “Russian” billionaires are jews who looted Russia.

        Yes, we all know that. Most of the Russian “oligarchs” were Jews, and some of these have fled to Israel with their loot. The rest of them have found refuge in America, Britain and Switzerland. But I believe there are one or two Russian non-Jews among this overwhelmingly Jewish bunch of international swindlers.

  5. Yes, real estates are bought by the “chinese”. or better say “chinese”companies. Who owns these companies, who provides them the capital to buy /invest in Italy, new york , usa etc? That’s more important to know. Who benefits?Not the chinese people, they ain’t going to live in expensive houses in Italy. New York etc. Some expats , pensionados, maybe can they afford it? Don’t forget the real estate remains in Italy, New York etc. The “Chinese”can’t take the real estate to China. The same with the art bought of the Italians. I wander if it is true the italian art was bought by the “chinese”as we know the art is in jewish hands, the first are the italian jews, english jews etc. So it could be a sell and rent construction etc for and by the jews with their scheming of laundering black money and or not paying taxes etc. So the “chinese”companies could be helped, loans etc, by jewish shell companies, “investment” companies established in China or other parts of the world. I would not be surprised. Ask the big jew audit companies, they know what the jews do.

  6. I do concede, the bad treatment of a Nobel winner appears scandalous and suspicious. His thesis depends on a detailed mathematical analysis that almost no one is capable / interested in following. Certainly none of his mass media detractors are up to the task.

    The direct impact of CV is negligible in terms of attributed, mainly falsified, reported deaths.

    The indirect impact is MUCH higher of deaths due to cancelled health services for the existing sick, deaths due to depression worsening an existing sickness and suicides.

    The indirect impact of corporations and government taxing the backs of working people for several decades more through quantitative easing or whatever obfuscation they use for thievery is MUCH worse. The virus origin media hype is a nice diversion whilst the on going heist takes place.

  7. This bears out many of Lasha’s points very well….

    ITALY’S COMMUNIST RECIPE FOR DISASTER
    Published March 24, 2020 | By Giacomino Nicolazzo
    Montecalvo, Lombardy, Italy.
    https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/04/italys-communist-recipe-disaster-frontpagemagcom/

    Most towns here in Italy, from the upper reaches of the Alps to the ancient shores of Sicilia and Sardenia, while not deserted, are closer to being ghost towns than the bustling centers of tourism, business and daily life they were just a few weeks ago.

    Stores and shops have been shuttered. Restaurants and coffee shops no longer serve customers. Schools, universities, sporting arenas…even our museums and theaters…all closed. Even the Vatican City has closed its gates and armed patrols monitor the 20 foot tall walls that protect it!

    Sixty million of us are in lockdown…it is like a war zone here. We are being held prisoner in our own homes by an unseen enemy that sneaked in unnoticed…by most of us. As you will read in just a few more minutes, there were those who knew something like this was coming…or at least they should have.

    [….]

    **To be brief…China was getting away with purchases and acquisitions in violation of Italian law and EU Trade Agreements with the US and the UK…and no one in either of those countries (not Obama in the US or Cameron in the UK) said a thing in their country’s defense. As a matter of fact, much of it was hidden from the public in all three countries.

    In 2014, China infused the Italian economy with €5 billion through purchases of companies costing less than €100 million each. By the time Renzi left office (in disgrace) in 2016, Chinese acquisitions had exceeded €52 billion. When the dust settled, China owned more than 300 companies…representing 27% of the major Italian corporations.
    The Bank of China now owns five major banks in Italy…all of which had been secretly (and illegally) propped up by Renzi using pilfered pension funds! Soon after, the China Milano Equity Exchange was opened and much of Italy’s wealth was being funneled back to the Chinese mainland.
    Chinese state entities own Italy’s major telecommunication corporation (Telecom) as well as its major utilities (ENI and ENEL). Upon entry into the telecommunication market, Huawei established a facility in Segrate, a suburb of Milano. It launched is first research center there and worked on the study of microwaves which has resulted in the possibly-dangerous technology we call 5G.
    China also now owns controlling interest in Fiat-Chrysler, Prysmian and Terna. You will be surprised to know that when you put a set of Pirelli tires on your car, the profits are going to China. Yep…the Chinese colossus of ChemChina, a chemical industry titan, bought that company too!
    Last but not least is Ferretti yachts…the most prestigious yacht builder in Europe. Incredibly, it is no longer owned by the Ferretti family.
    But the sector in which Chinese companies invested most was Italy’s profitable fashion industry. The Pinco Pallino, Miss Sixty, Sergio Tacchini, Roberta di Camerino and Mariella Burani brands have been acquired by 100%.

    Quite literally, tens of thousands of Chinese came in through Milano (illegally) and went back out carrying money, technology and corporate secrets.

    Thousands more were allowed to enter and disappeared into shadows of Milano and other manufacturing cities of Lombardy, only to surface in illegal sewing shops, producing knock-off designer clothes and slapping ‘Made In Italy’ labels on them. All with the tacit approval of the Renzi government.

    [….]

    The point I am trying to make here is that not only did the Chinese bring the virus to Italy (and the rest of the world) it was far-Left politics and policies that facilitated it.

    *This should hopefully be a warning to Americans that while they work to rid themselves of the China Virus, they should just as vehemently endeavor to rid their government of any politician that circumvents the Constitution and ignores the laws of the land…plain and simple.

    1. I would rather be ruled by the Chinese rather then the satanic jews who rule the west that have put faggotry dykes trannies feminism PC affirmative blacktion quota hires hate laws abortion forcing 100 million non whites into US speaking 130 different dialects 100’s of different religions bankrupting us with wars for israel forced multi trillion dollar police /spying state gay marriage plus adoption by them. Chinese would never allow none of it

      1. SPQR –
        Interestingly you wrote:
        “Chinese would never allow none of it”

        That means to me that Chinese WOULD have allowed ALL of it. 🙂

      2. Pat what are you talking about? you know what I mean and if you don’t have an adult read it to you

      3. SPQR –
        What are YOU talking about?

        YOU know what I mean and if you don’t…. have an adult point out the double-negatives to you!! Try to get it right, young man!

        BUT, I still would not agree to let China off the hook. NOT by any means. 🙂

  8. It looks bad for China. The idea that CV-19 would emerge spontaneously in Wuhan, (next to the Chinese Bio-labs), seems too much to accept.
    I don’t think there was any malicious intent even if it did escape from the lab.

    1. John Kirbly, I would suggest that’s exactly what you are MEANT to think. Did it also look bad for Saudi Arabia that most of the ‘box cutters’ came from there? All fiction…………..beware of disinfo that one should be easy for you but for some reason it isn’t

      1. Hi Patrick, You could be right, but I don’t think that even the CCP would inflict the virus on its own people deliberately.

      2. John –

        ALL government would do that to force people to beg to be vaccinated.

        Governments’ agencies are paid by the vaccine manufacturers to do so!!
        See:
        Government Health Agencies Take Huge Profits from Vaccine Royalties – Gardasil the Top One
        https://vaccineimpact.com/2019/government-health-agencies-take-huge-profits-from-vaccine-royalties-gardasil-the-top-one/

        British Medical Journal Reveals CDC Lies About Ties to Big Pharma!!
        https://vaccineimpact.com/2015/can-we-trust-the-cdc-british-medical-journal-reveals-cdc-lies-about-ties-to-big-pharma/

      3. @ Pat

        Saki –
        Sis –

        Don’t drink the kool-aide (sic), gals…..
        People die everyday, and were dying before the COVID-19 came along

        Don’t drink the Kool-Aid yourself, Pat. Before you start lecturing others, learn to spell Kool-Aid correctly! 🙂

        I see you basically as a sincere but somewhat wild-eyed conspiracy theorist, spreading disinfo on this site without being aware of it. You have your little clique here too, your fellow loonies all too ready to see everything as a “hoax” and everyone lying through their back teeth. Everything you don’t like is “fear porn”.

        I prefer to give credence to Commentator Mike, who contradicts everything you and your little coterie of claptrap promoters say. See his comment below. He talks sense, and he confirms everything said by Saki and Sister Monica.

        COMMENTATOR MIKE:

        Have a look at this paper published today:

        https://voxeu.org/article/covid-19-italy-analysis-death-registry-data?qt-quicktabs_cepr_policy_research=0

        It shows a massive increase in total deaths in areas affected by Covid-19 in Italy over and above anything reported during the past few years. At the height of the crisis there was a three fold increase in reported total deaths – no seasonal flu created such a spike in former times. I think a similar study in areas of the US (New York, New Jersey, etc.) and the UK would show similar increases in total deaths. When reported data show such an alarming rise in deaths, surely it is appropriate to term it a disaster and declare a state of emergency. We can argue about what is and isn’t reported as a Covid-19 death, and what emergency measures are appropriate, but there’s no disputing the total number of deaths. So something is indeed killing people all of a sudden to an extent not seen before.

        This is what Saki has said in different words. This is also what Sister Monica says in different words. And this is what I say.

        Anyone who belittles the truth, as you and your gang of loonies do on this site, might as well be working for the Jews.

      4. @ Sardonicus

        Thanks for your support. But I think you may have misunderstood Pat and his supporters. And maybe I have too, as well as Sister Monica. The problem may well be a semantic one. We have different definitions of what “hoax” means.

        Let’s face it, Pat has said many wise and astute things and his knowledge is impressive. And those who support him can hardly be described as “loonies”. We mustn’t exaggerate and indulge in these ad hominems.

        @ Pat

        This whole Covid-19 thing can indeed be loosely (but not strictly) described as a “hoax”. In what sense? In the sense that the truth is being concealed from us and as Lasha has said in one of her previous quotes from the New Testament, which you yourself (Pat) thoroughly approved of:

        “AN ENEMY HATH DONE THIS.”

        This is what we all believe. That we have been taken for a ride. That someone or other means to profit from this crisis and it’s going to be the agents of the Deep State. Some believe Trump is serving the Deep State, either as a puppet or a willing agent. This is what Harold Smith believes, what Sardonicus believes, and I think Pat believes this also. Pat has never, as far as I know, been a supporter of Trump.

        And yet there are people on this site, like Homer (Hp), who support Trump and Pat at the same time. If Pat is against Trump, then surely Homer is being inconsistent in cuddling up to Pat who is against Trump. I confess I am baffled but I don’t wish to say bad things about either Pat or Homer. I respect them both because both, I believe, are sincere and genuine truthseekers.

        I respect Sister Monica, too, who is doing her best to keep order here on a most unruly website where everyone seems to have a contrary opinion! 🙂

      5. Sard –
        Ruth –
        Sis –
        Saki –

        ALL – Including “loonies” 🙂

        MORE KOOL-AID!!

        In March the CDC experts around the world told us a vaccine for the new virus would take at least a year to 18 months.

        While the official 12- to 18-month timeframe still stands, experimental Covid-19 inoculations for high-risk groups could be rolled out much earlier.

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/19/coronavirus-vaccine-when-will-we-have-one

        **NOW…. to push the fake vaccine this summer….

        CDC director warns of devastating second wave!!

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/04/22/coronavirus-latest-news/

      6. @ Pat

        Fair enough. But please note you have taken as reliable sources of information two mainstream newspapers that are both notorious for their left-wing sentiments and dismissed by Trump as “fake news”. No White Nationalists I know, who are all far right wing and tend to be core supporters of Trump, would have anything to do with the Guardian newspaper and the Washington Post. The Guardian has often been called an organ for Communist propaganda.

        If Franklin Ryckaert were here, he would point out the logical fallacy to which you are prone: the argumentum ab auctoritate (“the appeal to authority”). A thing isn’t necessarily right because the Bible and Aristotle say it is so. Still less is it right because the Guardian and the Washington Post give it the stamp of their approval.

        Anyway, go in peace. I’m not attacking you. I’m just pointing out that your argument is weak and that I don’t accept it. I agree with Saki’s latest comment that there’s been a semantic confusion over the definition of the word “hoax” and that you personally are entitled to respect.

        It remains to be seen if you are willing to concede me the same degree of respect that I’m willing to give you.

      7. Saki, my “supporting” Trump is your definition, not mine. Unless of course by support you mean unique and insightful in and out of the box interpretation and commenting. Because that’s how I define it. Ultimately it must be detatched ciphering but this doesn’t by any means preclude actively acknowledging stupendous and extraordinary deeds and misdeeds of the actors.

      8. Ruth –
        “But please note you have taken as reliable sources of information two mainstream newspapers that are both notorious for their left-wing sentiments and dismissed by Trump as “fake news”.”

        I was well aware of that inevitable criticism before I used those sources. I used them EXACTLY FOR that reason. They are THE VERY ONES which are programming & steering the masses. It is NOT the reputable White Nationalists’ sites which are swaying public opinion in the direction the elites want & need.

        I will even use Haaretz & Jerusalem Post and Chabad.org to display the perfidy of the damnable jew bastards.

        I do not take great offense to criticism. That lets me know I need to show more proof of my claims. I fail there quite often. But, there is only so much time and space to make comments on things which cannot be changed here in the long run.

        Besides… many people like KOOL-AID!! 🙂

      9. OK, Pat. That was exceptionally well said. I’m not going for you or trying to diss you in any way. I have no reason to do that. I actually like you and admire your wide knowledge and sincerity. But sometimes you get me a bit worried…! 🙂

        As for you citing the Guardian, the Washington Post, Haaretz, and the Jerusalem Post — there’s nothing wrong with that per se. LD has often run articles here from the Guardian and the main Jewish papers and is constantly publishing articles published by the Daily Mail. So does Truthseeker. So relax, you’re in good company! 🙂

      10. Hi Patrick,

        It becomes like a John LeCarre novel, with bluff and counter-bluff.
        If the virus was created in the Wuhan laboratory it would be stupid for the Chinese government to deliberately release it in the market next door.
        Even if it was planted by the CIA the market would be too obvious. Hong Kong would be better.
        Either way the market next door would be too obvious for any deliberate act.
        Maybe we will find out some day but for me the probability is that it was created in the Wuhan Lab and escaped.

      11. Keep posting here, John. You are the voice of common sense on this website! Your steady refusal to be duped by every conspiracy theory swirling around you is indeed commendable.

      12. Sis –
        John –

        I agree with John here. I do not believe it was used as a bio-weapon intentionally. There is NOT adequate proof of that for me….. YET. 🙂

        I DO believe the CDC and WHO and UN and complicit governments have followed the rule – “Never let a good CRISIS go to waste!” They have lied about the numbers. See the directive from CDC on April 3, 2020 for proof of wanting the numbers to be faked HIGHER than could be proven.

        From the CDC’s Vital Statistics Reporting Guidance:
        https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf

        ”CONCLUSION”
        “An accurate count of the number of deaths due to COVID–19 infection, which depends in part on proper death certification, is critical to ongoing public health surveillance and response. When a death is due to COVID–19, it is likely the UCOD and thus, it should be reported on the lowest line used in Part I of the death certificate. Ideally, testing for COVID–19 should be conducted, **BUT it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate – WITHOUT – this confirmation if the circumstances are compelling within a – REASONABLE – degree of certainty.”

      13. @ Pat

        “I agree with John Kirby here. I do not believe it was used as a bio-weapon intentionally. There is NOT adequate proof of that for me….. YET.” 🙂

        Well, I happen to agree with John Kirby too! I never disagreed with him. And this is what Lasha has already argued at great length here:

        https://www.darkmoon.me/2020/coronavirus-bombshell-nobel-laureate-reveals-covid-19-made-in-lab-from-hiv-virus/

        However, we are quite prepared to accept the “conspiracy theory” that the whole thing was “planned and manipulated” IF EVIDENCE CAN BE FOUND to support the theory.

        Thus we have nothing against Harold Smith’s idea that the whole thing was fiendishly “planned by USreal” (to quote Harold), but we await proof. Harold himself admits he has no foolproof evidence for his belief, but he believes that his explanation or hypothesis is the most plausible one. That’s fine with me and Lasha. Plausuble hypotheses is what it’s all about.

        Inspired guesses are stepstones to the truth. A guess today can become a truth tomorrow.

  9. Knock, knock. Yoo-hoo, anyone home? I’m looking for a few bad Muslims. Has anyone seen any Muslims around here? A few weeks ago they were all over the place, now I can’t find one anywhere, it’s like, you know, creepy. It’s like all those Muslims have suddenly disappeared.

    This is a real problem for me as I was preparing all sorts of scathing exposés about how Muslim terrorists are taking over the world from behind the scenes. How Musilms had infiltrated the governments of the world and were secretly running our nations without our knowing they are the real threat behind the terror – but now? What good will my work do now if there are no Muslims to be found?

    I suppose I’ll just have to find a new threat. Bill Gates was looking pretty promising, but he seems really inept. Like when he comes out and tells everyone, “I’m going to kill you with my terrible vaccine and tag you like the goy ~ er ~ cattle that you are.” One would think a gazillionaire genius would be a bit more discreet about such Machiavellian claims.

    As a threat, Bill kinda’ strikes me like Hillary Clinton did in the last election. You know, that time she collapsed getting into that car? Just the kind of president you want to have carrying the nuclear football around in her purse, eh? I don’t think ol’ Bill, Gates that is, has any real staying power as an enemy of humanity, after all he is only one old fool. Then there was that doctor, Tony Foulcheese that smells worse than limburger. As a standup, cardboard threat, he’s even weaker than Bill.

    I suppose the Chinese will have to do. After all, aren’t they really the ones trying to undermine and threaten the America with their plan for global sovereignty? Come on now tell me you didn’t know they have always been the real enemy.

    Whu – Han! A Chinese government intent on global dominance! A real threat that we righteous ‘merricans must fight to the finish if we are to remain triumphant masters of the universe, with empty Wal-Mart shelves to prove it. Say, it’s sounding better already! Gotta’ go! Gotta get to work exposing the real threat to humanity.

    Yes siree bob! Those evil Chinese have been the real enemy all along. Gonna’ have to work on that Wal-Mart thing though, maybe soften the idea a bit.

    “Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Eurasia was an ally. There was, of course, no admission that any change had taken place. Merely it became known, with extreme suddenness and everywhere at once, that Eastasia and not Eurasia was the enemy. Winston was taking part in a demonstration in one of the central London squares at the moment when it happened.

    It was night, and the white faces and the scarlet banners were luridly floodlit. The square was packed with several thousand people, including a block of about a thousand schoolchildren in the uniform of the Spies. On a scarlet-draped platform an orator of the Inner Party, a small lean man with disproportionately long arms and a large bald skull over which a few lank locks straggled, was haranguing the crowd. A little Rumpelstiltskin figure, contorted with hatred, he gripped the neck of the microphone with one hand while the other, enormous at the end of a bony arm, clawed the air menacingly above his head.

    His voice, made metallic by the amplifiers, boomed forth an endless catalogue of atrocities, massacres, deportations, lootings, rapings, torture of prisoners, bombing of civilians, lying propaganda, unjust aggressions, broken treaties. It was almost impossible to listen to him without being first convinced and then maddened. At every few moments the fury of the crowd boiled over and the voice of the speaker was drowned by a wild beast-like roaring that rose uncontrollably from thousands of throats.

    The most savage yells of all came from the schoolchildren. The speech had been proceeding for perhaps twenty minutes when a messenger hurried on to the platform and a scrap of paper was slipped into the speaker’s hand. He unrolled and read it without pausing in his speech. Nothing altered in his voice or manner, or in the content of what he was saying, but suddenly the names were different. Without words said, a wave of understanding rippled through the crowd. Oceania was at war with Eastasia!

    The next moment there was a tremendous commotion. The banners and posters with which the square was decorated were all wrong! Quite half of them had the wrong faces on them. It was sabotage! The agents of Goldstein had been at work! There was a riotous interlude while posters were ripped from the walls, banners torn to shreds and trampled underfoot. The Spies performed prodigies of activity in clambering over the rooftops and cutting the streamers that fluttered from the chimneys. But within two or three minutes it was all over.

    The orator, still gripping the neck of the microphone, his shoulders hunched forward, his free hand clawing at the air, had gone straight on with his speech. One minute more, and the feral roars of rage were again bursting from the crowd. The Hate continued exactly as before, except that the target had been changed. The thing that impressed Winston in looking back was that the speaker had switched from one line to the other actually in midsentence, not only without a pause, but without even breaking the syntax. Oceania was at war with Eastasia: Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.” – 1984

    Knock, knock, Arch – follow the white rabbit.

    1. Arch, I ran into your toxic comment by accident. That is precisely the reason why I don’t visit this site quite often, like I used to. First, there are no bad Muslims on this website. secondly, you surely have a real problem. Thirdly, your problem is you are a bigot and Islamophobic. Finally, I bet if an earthquake hit the US, you will blame it on Muslims.

      Your hatred of Muslims runs deep and wide. I should not here, if bigotry is a crime in the good old US of A, you would be doing time behind bars.

      1. Mahmoud, relax, the americans don’t hate muslims and certainly not the american government. If there would be hate by the american government not one muslim, not even you, could enter the jewsa. The ‘ battle’ against muslims js a ‘ fake’ war, jewish dialectic, template of the jews.

      2. Salaamun’alaik Br. Mahmoud,
        You are a long-time commenter here and I for one would definitely love to see you continue posting. If you read Arch’s comment again you will hopefully see how brilliant it really is. Arch often turns out some of the best prose here. I have saved a couple just in case the day comes when the site is down.

        What Arch was demonstrating is how easy the jewmedia creates the frame of reference to corral and direct our consciousness, even if it is ALL MADE UP (false). He is implying that just as it is false that Muslims are infiltrating the governments of the world for a stealth take-over, so too it is now CHINA to blame and that too is most likely false. He is keeping his eye on the ball, who the real perpetrators are, and he is encouraging us to as well.

        To add to something I was explaining in an earlier comment, the seeding of our consciousness, and in support of the China meme, if you look at the movie “Carriers” there is a scene where they shot a Chinese guy and hung him up at the side of the road with a sign that says, “The Chinks brought it”. That movie was made in 2009.

        Let me share with you a personal story, I am a student of philosophy and culture and was fortunate to spend some time with real Bedouins that travel the Sahara on camels, not spending much time in towns; I spent time with the Dinka people and others, like the Blackfoot elders where I live.

        One day I went to visit my sister who had a guest, originally from Africa. I greeted them and sat as the African lady kept speaking. She was going on and on about how she hated books. As you can imagine, as a Muslim I was taken aback and I can only imagine the expression on my face. We know the first verses revealed was to “Read/Recite” and that it was Allah out of His generosity taught man the use of the pen, taught him that which he otherwise would not have known, and this came to a people who had no history of writing or recording anything and prided themselves on that.

        The Qur’an transformed them overnight till they scoured the East and West trying to preserve books and learning. To this day there are many books of the ancient Greeks and Persians whose originals have been lost but the Arabic translations are still extant as a testament of their love for learning.

        As I listened to this lady, my inner self was pricking me to “Say something!” but I bridled myself to listen and at the same time tried to truly appreciate what she was offering, all the while keeping an affection for her; after all she was transmitting something from her culture; it is not for me to judge.

        After leaving and spending days in thought I came to appreciate what she was articulating. She was talking about true freedom, no one should be setting the parameters of her experience. This is the only way one can be absolutely free to experience the world and that experience would be entirely her own every step of the way.

        This is quite relevant today since we are living in the most caged times in human history. Children are given over for conditioning very early, from pre-school and almost all rewards are given to the ones who peddle what someone else have said. It is very rare to find someone with their own thought, like that lady. This entire Novus Ordo Seclorum is a systemic process to make us all ‘goyeem’. It may take 500 years or 1000 but the end is never lost for them.

        Their system is inverse to that of the Qur’an, instead of Prayer and Charity it is Debt and slavery.
        I want to speak to your heart as a believing man.

        All too often I see Muslims holding positions because ‘Orthodoxy’ dictates. I would argue MANY of their positions are against the Qur’an. The day Muslims commit themselves and liberate their minds with the Qur’an it would be better for us and the community where we live (Muslims and Non-Muslims). I would argue Hadith material 200 years after the Prophet gave birth to “Orthodoxy”.

        The Qur’an actually argues against them. You may remember the verse that says the Jews have taken their Rabbis as Lords along with Allah. The New Testament makes a similar claim that they sit in the seat of Moses.

        Orthodoxy often leads to “Brain Freeze” where there is no freedom of thought never mind expression.

        Case in point, not too long ago someone said, in Islam tatoos are absolutely forbidden. I am a Muslim and when I read that I was like, “What a Jahil thing to say”. In the old days some Arab tribes used markings to identify themselves, even Amazigh women today still tatoo their faces etc.

        Ramadan Kareem. May Allah continue to give you out of his generosity and may He fill our hearts with love and solidarity for each other.
        Thank you Admin for giving us a place to share our views.

  10. If memory serves me right, at the time AIDS was discovered in those pre-internet days some scientists did suggest that HIV would be far deadlier if it were airborne rather than blood-borne. Sort of like instant death, and I suppose death two weeks after exposure is almost instant compared to years that it takes for AIDS to kill. Also, I think there was mention that cats could catch AIDS.

    A slight error in the article: “In 2008, after all, Montagnier discovered the human immunodeficiency virus HIV as the cause of the AIDS epidemic.” He discovered HIV a long time before that, as well as establishing the link to AIDS, but got the prize in 2008. The latter is made clear elsewhere in the article and we all know the former.

    Interestingly, Prof. Luc Montagnier now works in China, as mentioned on his wikipedia page.

  11. “living in an earthly paradise where you own a spacious mansion by the sea, surrounded by hundreds of acres of lush vegetables gardens and orchards. And once again you will be able to swim in a pristine clean ocean, the “wine-dark sea” of the Ancient Greeks celebrated by Homer a thousand years before Christ.”
    Describes the Obama’s new mansion in Martha’s Vineyard perfectly….

  12. ADMIN: Comment found in Spam and approved for publication. I reckon it went into Spam because of your link to the politically incorrect Bitchute. Blame Google.

    The problem with this theory is it doesn’t line up with environmental issues that we know are causing new diseases that always seem to follow new inventions or release of new technologies. For instance, on 12 December 1901, Guglielmo Marconi and his assistant, George Kemp, heard the faint clicks of Morse code transmitted without wires across the Atlantic Ocean. This achievement, the first reception of transatlantic radio signals, led to considerable advances in both science and technology that has been growing exponentially ever since. By WW1 Armies were using these radio waves for military applications next to soldiers that became ill with Flu symptoms, which was named the Spanish Flu. Not everyone is electrically sensitive especially moving in and out of signal arrays.

    With every new invention came a new disease such as Polio and on and on. A Coronavirus is not contagious and neither is the seasonal Flu which has been proven after countless testing over the last century. We do know that new unexplained diseases have risen steadily behind the release of new technologies. Then Big Pharma makes a new drug or Vaccine that makes everything worse because they only care about profits.

    On top of environmental issues, it’s not a very well thought out plan to destroy your economic model with de-population. De-population would economically destroy China, the US, and Russia. However, anything is possible. This would be a great opportunity for psychopaths to murder 5 or 6 billion people if they thought could get away with it.

    What is the real cause? That Sickening Feeling! My newest video only on Bitchute https://www.bitchute.com/channel/stophypocrisy/

  13. How about this for an upgrade of Malthus’s evil depopulation plans: concentrate most people in cities, lock them down in there due to some imagined or real deadliest of viruses, then sterilise the infected urban areas by hitting them with neutron bombs so as to save the rest of humanity? After all gamma ray radiation is the best disinfectant and neutron bombs don’t leave massive persistent fallout in the environment. Pat may disagree with the neutron bombs but then they may develop some other means to beam gamma rays. Far-fetched? Only good enough for a dystopian sci-fi story or movie?

  14. (Off-topic, but very, very important) – WTI Crude Oil prices at $2.60/barrel right now… off $71.00/barrel!

    West Texas intermediate (WTI), also known as Texas light sweet, is a grade of crude oil used as a benchmark in oil pricing. This grade is described as light crude oil because of its relatively low density, and sweet because of its low sulfur content. It is the underlying commodity of New York Mercantile Exchange’s oil futures contracts.

    1. Yeah buddy! Anyone remember the terror “peak oil” created few years back? Remember how we would be running out of oil in a few months, maybe a few years at most? Years before that scare, we suffered the great oil shortage of the mid 1970s, where people were shooting each other at the pumps in California.

      Here is an article that might help explain why this type of terror constantly ebbs and flows throughout our lives. It all about energy, but not the kind that comes from oil wells.

      1. “ENERGY VAMPIRES” is about right.
        (excerpt):
        “But my point in mentioning this form as an example of this tyranny, is that what they really want is YOUR ENERGY. Whenever you get any threat, unlawful penalty, unjust legal fines, outrageous utility bills, intimidation from debt collectors, loss of pension funds, etc., it is not really the money. It’s the worry – the fear energy. You have to keep reminding yourself of this. It ain’t necessarily about control either. It’s all about zapping your energy. We are fundamentally dealing with energy vampires.”

        BTW – I wrote too soon earlier! The price of WTI crude oil went negative for the first time in history – NEGATIVE $37 a barrel! That means producers would pay $37 a barrel to have traders take it off their hands!!

      2. there was no oil shortage in early 70’s. oil was cut off by the arabs cause US saved pissrael during the yom kippur war

    2. Since the Covid-19 / ID 2020 ( Covid = certificate of vaccination ID ) is first and foremost of socioeconomic and political significance, and the upheaval in oil prices is a direct consequence thereof, I would say your comment is not off-topic at all.
      35 years ago the koshermedia was harping, in chorus, as they always do, that the world would run out of oil by 2020. As Arch mentioned, in July / August 2008, oil futures reached $ 147 as Goldman Sachs kept trumpeting then looming energy crisis.
      What I am curious about is whether this price movement is an attack on the oil-dependent Russian economy, and what the fallout will be. The stock market has never made sense, in May 2011 shares of accounting firm accenture traded briefly for a penny – before trading was stopped as they always do. In the very same month, the EURUSD exchange rate reached 1.49, silver hit a peak of $ 49 / oz, everybody was short USD, the US was about to default on its debt payment and the S & P downgraded US sovereign debt.
      Very interestingly, Osama bin Laden was officially killed that same month and on the auspicious occasion prayers were held and burial at sea. Ever since the USD was on the move upwards, commodity prices started tumbling and the BRICS issue was gradually relegated to irrelevance.
      These days the stock market mirrors the headlines of Covid-19. Since the money supply is theoretically infinite, demand and supply at the macro-level makes absolutely no sense. Additionally, the debt bubble is above and beyond that of 2008. It will be interesting how it all plays out, but I would not be surprised if the present destitute days see a forthcoming ratcheting in austerity, surveillance with the complete disappearance of personal freedom.
      It will take a long time for the dust to settle.

    3. @ Pat

      The latest I hear is that the price of oil has now fallen into negative territory. It’s fallen to $0.00 per barrel. Some producers are actually paying for it to be taken away by anyone who wants it. No kidding. I read that in a mainstream newspaper earlier today. Forget which one. But I can check if anyone doubts this.

  15. Wasn’t it determined that AIDS was a result of heavily compromised immune systems of homosexuals and IV drug users, and the whole idea of Dr Fauci’s “HIV causes AIDS” was a big scam for population control (esp. in Africa) and avoiding the connection between the gay lifestyle and AIDS?

    1. @ Karen

      The video was available yesterday with full English subtitles. We have posted this update into the article:

      VIDEO : 3.58 mins
      (French with English subtitles)

      UPDATE (21 April). The video below was available yesterday, with English subtitles. It has now been blocked and is no longer available on this computer. The message we receive is this:

      “VIDEO UNAVAILABLE. This video contains content from TV Klan, who has blocked it on copyright grounds.”

      We have a clear example here of internet censorship. Free speech is under threat.

      1. Admin –

        In the alternative…… we are at the mercy of the claimants, on opposing sides, who might have been paid to lie or have grudges, or both.

        Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier INACCURATELY claims that the novel coronavirus is man-made and contains genetic material from HIV

        CLAIM
        “this coronavirus genome contained sequences of another virus […] the HIV virus (AIDS virus)”

        Inaccurate: Genomic analyses indicate that the virus has a natural origin, and was not engineered. The so-called “unique” protein sequence insertions found in the 2019 novel coronavirus can be found in many other organisms, not just HIV.

        Genomic analyses of the novel coronavirus show that it was not engineered. In addition, the claim that its genome contains inserted HIV sequences is based on a now-withdrawn preprint of a study that contained significant flaws in design and execution. The so-called “HIV insertions” identified by the authors are in fact gene sequences that can also be found in many other organisms besides HIV.

        Highlight this link:
        healthfeedback.org/claimreview/claim-by-nobel-laureate-luc-montagnier-that-the-novel-coronavirus-is-man-made-and-contains-genetic-material-from-hiv-is-inaccurate/

      2. @ Pat

        In the alternative…… we are at the mercy of the claimants, on opposing sides, who might have been paid to lie or have grudges, or both.

        Anything is possible, Pat. We are not saying Montagnier is right. We are simply putting forward his viewpoint in this article and allowing our readers to decide for themselves if he is right or not.

        Anyway, do me a favor and check out the video at the end of this article and let me know if it’s available to you in America. I think it’s been blocked. See my comment to “Karen”.

      3. Toby –

        Gladly……
        I had searched even before you asked. I even looked for it embedded in an article. No luck. Sorry.

        Maybe someone else has it.

  16. “Engineered virus”!!! Should come as no surprise to anyone.
    Remember H1N1? It contained 3 different genetic strains. Impossible to happen in nature.
    This is just their latest attempt to bring about the extermination of 90% of the world population. Their intentions are clearly written on the Georgia Guidestones.
    – Maintain population under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
    500 million? HOW? Well we’re just beginning to see how they intend to accomplish it.
    The Indian researchers withdrew their original claim, that Covid-19 contains HIV proteins, when it was learned that their lives, and the lives of their families, would be in danger if they DIDN’T.

    Funny thing about AIDS tho. Although we are supposed to believe it originated in monkeys somewhere in Africa, surprisingly it first showed up about a month after the US government administered a free hep vaccine to the gay community simultaneously, in both New York and San Francisco.

  17. How many have connected the unusually high number of deaths in New York with the tons of pulverized asbestos and especially the radiation poisoning resulting from the nuking of WTC 1 and 2 on 911?

    1. I did not think of the horrible amounts of asbestos breathed in by millions there, which would cause asbestosis, leading to mesothelioma. Those people would have compromised lungs for life. It remains and gets worse over time. I have asbestosis from working in a shipyard in the 70s.

      I would not ever think of nuclear radiation there. I don’t know what the recorded levels were, or how long it remained, if there was – or is – any at all. If it WAS there…. it should still be there, just very slightly weakened.

    2. @ Darrell

      A weak argument. Why should the asbestos poisoning left over from 9/11 in 2001 suddenly rear its ugly head 19 years later in the midst of the coronavirus crisis? I’m surprised you can come up with such nonsense. Asbestos poisoning would not lead to Covid-19 symptoms. WHICH ARE QUITE DISTINCT. Asbestos poisoning would lead to a a specific form of lung cancer known as MESOTHELIOMA. This usually takes 30 years to develop.

      1. Assuming asbestos compromised the lungs, the latest flu that the media call covid finished them off, along with old age. So asbestos contamination is raising death rates from the flu. Is Darrell’s comment really nonsense?

        It is unlikely that any disease has a single cause – that is the meme promoted by pharma – a germ => a disease => a pharma medicine

  18. Dane Wigington from geoengineeringwatch.org has some pretty ominous things to report.
    youtube.com/watch?v=IaJDfEQPu_U

    I believe we’re entering into the long prophesied time of the Great Chastisement, manifesting both the justice and the mercy of God. That is to say, punishment for the unprecedented amount and gravity of human wickedness and sin, and also for the purification of souls. The devil-worshiping global elite appear to be the present instrument and scourge permitted by God to inflict that punishment and spiritual cleansing.

  19. FLAN
    “The indirect impact is MUCH higher of deaths due to cancelled health services for the existing sick, deaths due to depression worsening an existing sickness and suicides.”
    That’s a good observation… But then, this isn’t about public health and well being…
    PAT
    “*This should hopefully be a warning to Americans that while they work to rid themselves of the China Virus, they should just as vehemently endeavor to rid their government of any politician that circumvents the Constitution and ignores the laws of the land…plain and simple.”
    Was that you talking there Dood?
    “BTW – I wrote too soon earlier! The price of WTI crude oil went negative for the first time in history – NEGATIVE $37 a barrel! That means producers would pay $37 a barrel to have traders take it off their hands!!”
    I guess with the population of the USA going to 100,000,000 by 2025 now – they better give it away while there’s still somebody left to give it to…
    ARCH
    “Knock, knock. Yoo-hoo, anyone home? I’m looking for a few bad Muslims. Has anyone seen any Muslims around here? A few weeks ago they were all over the place, now I can’t find one anywhere, it’s like, you know, creepy. It’s like all those Muslims have suddenly disappeared. ”
    Good Point… You know what else is missing, right?
    The Green New Deal…
    That’s being ushered in with small flashlights in behind the scenes….
    It’s just a question of rearranging the financing, making the adjustment, redirecting the flows outgoing…

  20. There are too many experts trying to uncover all sorts of things, and quite a few are contradicting themselves, so who is actually speaking the truth, I ask myself as a layman?

    Here for example is Dr. Shiva Ayadurai, telling us that HIV does not cause AIDS, but prof. Montagnier received the Nobel prize for exactly that. If I read that, I then get the impression that this Indian doctor is a, well Indian doctor. A little bit sneaky, like some Indians I met in South Africa. If you lie in one area, why must I believe you in other areas (even if you are right – the damage has been done). But I might be wrong.

    https://www.darkmoon.me/2020/top-doctor-exposes-everything-the-deep-state-is-trying-to-hide-about-coronavirus/

    It would be interesting to know all these learned men’s political orientation, alongside how do they make a living (for example can they be bought off by having a government as paymaster) and what are their allegiances. Everybody can be bought off. One just has to follow prof. Kevin MacDonalds site or other intelligent people like Chris Langan how academia and the industry has been bought off and that is huge. It looks as if it is very difficult to really be independent, for only well-funded institutions can effort the expensive research equipment for these researchers, and who funds these labs?

    From Wikipedia I read prof. Montagnier “he currently works as a full-time professor at Shanghai Jiao Tong University in China” and then I automatically think has he been bought off? I know what kind of government is in charge in China.

    The only way I as a layman can trust these specialists is when there is a peer review amongst these learned people and I have seen nothing of this sort so far.

    1. For example, has the most respected NATURE research journal been compromised? The journal “Psychology Today” certainly has degraded to a multiculti promotion magazine. I really hope The Lancet does not start with the same nonsense (they were back then very honest on the dramatic effect of the Iraq sanctions back then on the children).

      “Withholding funding from the World Health Organization is wrong and dangerous, and must be reversed
      Researchers everywhere must continue to press their lawmakers to act now and challenge US President Donald Trump’s undermining of the global health agency. ”

      https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01121-1

      Why do they not rather expose the WHO?

      “This narrative is mainly pushed and driven by the head of the WHO Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, a useless biologist (in name only) who once made the mass murderer and tyrant Robert Mugabe “Goodwill Ambassador” to the WHO.

      Communist scumbag Tedros Adhanom is a liar and fraudster who covered up of three cholera epidemics in his home country of Ethiopia in 2006, 2009 and 2011, labeling it as “acute watery diarrhea” killing thousands of people.

      Even his own countrymen were opposed to him becoming head of the WHO due to his long career in the violent Communist Tigray People’s Liberation Front (TPLF) . The TPLF, listed as a Marxist terrorist organization by the USA, provided millions of dollars in financial support for Tedros’s candidacy in WHO. According to one Ethiopian newspaper, Adhanom was listed as the 3rd most important member of the politbureau standing committee in the TPLF.

      When Corona broke out in Communist China, it was this idiot who advised against a blocking of Chinese travelers based on “racism”. Tedros also blamed Taiwan for racist insults leveled against him which turned out to be Communist trolls from mainland China trying to discredit Taiwan.”

      https://mikesmithspoliticalcommentary.blogspot.com/2020/04/the-corona-lockdown-what-have-we.html

      1. EX –

        I agree 100%. Tedros Adhanom uses ‘Dr’ and is not a medical doctor. He might be ‘Dr Doom’, if any doctor at all.

    2. I have been following Dr. Judy Mikovits’s work for a while to understand the constituents of vaccines. She was thrown in Jail for her findings of retroviruses. She has been long dealing with Fauci.
      https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/the-truth-about-fauci-featuring-dr-judy-mikovits/

      There is also the article below from the BMJ on HIV and AIDS.
      https://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/10/28/hiv-does-not-cause-aids
      It is certainly confusing and I agree that it is hard to find a scientist that’s not sold out.

      1. For me it feels like a new generation Dumb is running this world. Just imagine this event happening in the middle of the Cold War during our times. Vietnam in full swing, the start of the African wars, the Afghanistan invasion, the Berlin Wall still up. I just cannot imagine that the leadership back then would have shut down half the world in order to combat such a virus. Or our generation so complacent. The Soviets could have walked in at their leasure and taken over the West. They would not have been bother by this virus and how many fatalities it might have caused or not. This whole thing would have been handled in another way. Besides it perhaps being a virus with a much more sinister purpose.

  21. ED
    If my memory serves me well, ‘Osama’ was killed (yeah right) the day after ‘Obama’ released his fake birth certificate… And not too long afterwards all but one or two of the SEALS who took part in the raid were all killed too…
    Where do these guys get their names? Central CIA Casting…
    PAT is Correct (not Right, if he agrees) – your rights have been suspended by the government, and what Big Pentagon PaxAmericana Warmonger or Monster Cop wouldn’t agree… Check out Uncle Fester with a Badge at around 20 minutes… The whole video is well worth watching, while you still might……
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgvSidt7EP8
    Watch the following video… In it, you’ll see, LOCK STEP – A world of tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership, with limited innovation and growing citizen pushback…
    “THIS IS ALL AN HISTORICAL PATTERN! The genocide, of course, is framed as uncontrollable
    events with every additional step toward the culling being framed as “for your safety.”
    The Spanish Flu was a prime example of this. It wasn’t Spanish or the flu yet millions died……from a purposely designed toxic vaccine. (sound familiar?) At that time as well the same orders were given for everyone to stay in their homes, gatherings were limited to 10 people maximum (because families were bigger) and business were closed. (sound familiar?) The vaccine was recommended because it was about genocide and nothing else. As the super toxic vaccine killed tens of millions, the government purposely started to restrict the food supply, to increase the death counts. Democide. All documented.
    How’s your program malfunction shaping up right now?”
    And here’s the straight skinny from those wonderful Rockefellers.. They have their Plan to Repair the World… Philanthropists, don’t you know…
    Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development
    http://www.nommeraadio.ee/meedia/pdf/RRS/Rockefeller%20Foundation.pdf
    Like the Deagel People, they make no real big secret of it… But the Sheepule only know what their televisions tell them… They even gave you the Georgia Guidestones (Tombstones) as a Monument… No Matter…

    1. Yes, the media was rife with the birther issue back then. As for myself, I would take any statement from a politically connected, or aspiring individual with a grain of salt. Even more so with someone at the helm of a political organization. The UN and by extension the WHO are political establishments, set up to fulfill the purpose of Zionism which is the epitome of political racism. The league of nations was the fruit of the first world War and the UN was the culmination of the second, in accordance with the Protocols of the Elders. As Henry Ford observed a century ago and ever more conspicuous today, the grand scheme of things as it unfolds today reflects the prophetic accuracy of the so-called forgery.

      @PAT: I would go with Montagnier when it comes to the genome of Covid-19. There was a paper published by researchers at UNC which Kapoore seems to be familiar with where they admit to modify Coronaviruses by inserting HIV genetic material for gain of function. One of the researchers was from Wuhan. Whether that has anything to do with the virus having first appeared at Wuhan is unknown to me.
      However, event 201 suggests that there has been global coordination from several actors. The war of words going on between Trump and Xi, is, in my opinion, staged and the media is using it to conceal the level of planning, to lull the sheeple into ignorance.

  22. I would like to add the following on this controversial subject of Covid-19, in Dr. LD forum, one of my favourites.
    1. Some sources, e.g. Moon of Alabama, writes on April 18, 2020: “China has yet to be overrun by super market chains. Some 40% of the Chinese people source their daily food at the wet markets. The wet market in Wuhan was not the source of the epidemic. It did not [..] sell bats. The epidemic started in December at a time when bats hibernate. The first known case was not related to the market at all”. 2. According to the French site factchek.afp.com, 27 Jan. 2020, “A video has been viewed tens of thousands of times in multiple posts on Facebook that claim it shows a market in the Chinese city of Wuhan, where a new coronavirus strain emerged. The claim is false; the video shows a market in Indonesia’s Sulawesi island”. Says Guansheng Ma, the director of Nutrition and Gastronomy at the University of Beijing: “According to our research, eating bat meat is more than rare in China. It’s actually unacceptable in Chinese culture” (02.03.2020 Is bat soup a delicacy in China ? We debunk a rumour on the origin of the coronavirus https://observers.france24.com/en/20200203-china-coronavirus-bat-soup).
    more to follow

    1. @ Pio De Martin

      Thanks for the information. There is definitely a well-organized propaganda effort underway which attempts to blame China for SARS-CoV-2. The more the “establishment” screams about China, the more the usual suspects implicate themselves.

  23. Pat has reported a text by my fellow countryman Giacomo Nicolazzo from Lombardy, Italy, according to which China has acquired, since, 2014, a great amount of Italian companies, e.g.: “The Bank of China now owns five major banks in Italy”; “Chinese state entities own Italy’s major Telecommunication corporation (Telecom) as well as its major utilities (ENI and ENEL)” and also Pirelli Co. (tires).
    While it is true that ChemChina acquired Pirelli in 2015, and many other Italian companies have been bought by multinational entities, I found the other above statements wildly exxagerated.
    The two major banks in Italy are Unicredit and Intesa San Paolo.
    UNICREDIT, approximate shares: BlackRock 5,2% as of 15.03.2014; Aabar (AbuDhabi Sovereign Fund) 5,038%; Norwegian and Libyan Sovereign Funds 10,52%; Foreign Investment Funds and Merchant Banks 49% US (incl. BlackRock), 17% UK, Rest of Europe 22%
    INTESA SAN PAOLO, approx. shares: Italian Foundations and Banks 22%; free market 79% (incl. BlackRock ca. 5%; Intesa does not specify what countries); Goldman Sachs 5,176%.
    BlackRock is allegedly 1st or 2nd share owner of the 5 major banks in Italy: Unicredit, Intesa, etc.
    BlackRock Inc. is the world’s largest asset manager with $ 7.4 trillion in assets under management as of end Q4 2019. President is Robert Kapito (“born into a jewish family” says en.wikipedia). Chairman and CEO is Larry Fink (same as above).
    more to follow

    1. Thank you, Pio! Welcome back.

      It takes info from many serous commenters like you, to add to the stack of knowledge, to try to flesh out what the untold thousands of criminal elites do every waking moment of their sinister shameful murderous lives.

      Keep it coming!! 💥 👍

  24. TELECOM ITALIA, approx. shares: Vivendi (French) 23,943%; Paul Elliott Singer (no Chinese he!), Mr. Singer imposes the governance of Telecom with his 9,547% ; Cassa Depositi e Prestiti (It. Treasury) 4,262%; Canadian Pension Plan Inv. Board 3,133%; Norges Bank (Norwegian) 3,12% as of 14.04.2017; BlackRock 5,04% as of 28.07.2017; Rest ?
    ENI (oil), approx. shares: Italy 47,44% (of which 30,10% State-owned); UK+Ireland 5,85%; Others in Europe 17,23%; US+Canada 17,91%; Rest of World 9,78% (including PEOPLE’s BANK OF CHINA, that is the Central Bank of China 2,1% as of 4/2014); ENI 1,34% .
    ENEL (electricity), approx. shares: Italian Treasury 30,10% as of 31.12.2019; Other shares: Italy 10%; UK 15,3% as of 31.12.2015; North America 37,3% (incl. BlackRock 5,054%, Parametric Portfolio APS Seattle, affiliate of Eaton Vance Corp. Boston $ 55 M as of 30.12.2019; Goldman Sachs $ 6 M); Rest of Europe 28,4%; Rest of the World 9,00% (incl. PEOLPE’s BANK OF CHINA 2,1% as of 4/2014).
    (Dates of shares obtained from http://www.consob.it (the It. Stock Exchange), http://www.telecomitalia.com, https://group.intesasanpaolo.com, it.wikipedia.org and financial papers/sites)
    @ Toby
    The video is still available, with English subtitles, on the truthseeker site here in Italy.

  25. In 2015 a study was published entitled “A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence” (see below link); so we were “warned” that something like SARS-CoV-2 could happen.

    And then a few years later it did happen. What a coincidence.

    Anyway, if SARS-CoV-2 is a “deep state” project made in a lab somewhere e.g. Ft. Detrick or a lab in Israel, perhaps it’s just the first of a series of such bioweapons to be unleashed on the world.

    SARS-CoV-2 might in a sense be a “test” to see how much panic can be created, how well the masses can be manipulated, etc., while at the same time, the useless eater population can be reduced somewhat and China can be blamed for it. Thus China can be portrayed as an unreliable source of manufactured products and damaged economically and politically accordingly.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26552008

  26. Giving credit where is due, thank God first and then Dr. Ami Acton, the Ohio Department of Health director for lowering the numbers of novel Coronavirus cases in our home state. From the beginning, Dr. Acton, Governor Mike DeWine, and Lt. Governor Jon Husted were tactful and put the lives of Ohioans above profit and/or their own interest during the pandemic. They never brag about their efforts or waste precious time exchanging insults with the President of the United State. They never said God had anything to do with lowering the number of infections

    I have to confess that my wife hardly ever watched the news but during Ohio Task Force on COVID-19’s press briefing at 2:00 PM every day, my wife get glued to the TV set that you could hear the needle drop at our house.

    I am happy to call Ohio my home state because Acton, DeWine, and Husted are real troopers who kept Ohio strong. For that, I am forever grateful for them.

    1. How will this be spun? A university in California calculates the death rate is 0.1% = a normal flu. White House staff admit the hoax.

      This means the narcissist political class and medical class, promising to “save” frightened social media and TV pussies, have been caught red handed in a heist.

      Will the sheeple wake up? or will the media keep on blasting out the mind-fxck?

    2. THIS IS NO HOAX! IT’S REAL!
      DEATH FIGURES ARE BEING UNDER-REPORTED!

      There are numerous reports that state the precise opposite of what this YouTube video (linked by Pat) FALSELY states. The truth is that the number of fatalities is ten times greater than the fatalities being reported. It is NOT a hoax. People are really dying in huge numbers.

      For example, it is widely known that the number of deaths in care homes for the old in the UK are at least 25% of the total number of fatalities reported by the authorities, but the care home statistics are NOT INCLUDED in the list of fatalities which are confined only to hospital deaths. It’s also well known that doctors are giving false diagnoses and stating patients are dying of “old age” and cancer, diabetes, etc. etc. in order to avoid saying they died of Covid-19.

      So the authorities are doing their best to LOWER THE FIGURES — NOT INCREASE THEM! — and this is for two reasons:

      (1) The authorities look better if they can claim the situation is improving; they don’t look good if it’s getting worse.

      (2) They want to end the lockdown as soon as possible in order get people back to work. This is what Trump is trying to do, which is a good thing. As a businessman, he knows that the longer the lockdown goes on, the worse it is for the economy. The national debt is soaring and America faces economic catastrophe if it has to keep on borrowing money to keep 22 million unemployed Americans on welfare.

      There is NO HOAX here! Doctors, nurses and care home staff are working 20-hour shifts, many of them without proper face masks, protective gowns, and disposable gloves.

      1. @ Saki

        You are right. Pay no attention to YouTube videos that lie and pretend this is a “hoax”, stating that very few people are in fact dying. I have been in hospitals and nursing homes myself and seen people dying with my own eyes, including an old school friend I dearly loved. It’s an insult to the overworked doctors and nurses, many of them dying themselves of Covid-19, to make out they are all complicit in an alaborate plot to deceive the public.

      2. Saki –
        Sis –

        Don’t drink the kool-aide, gals…..
        People die everyday, and were dying before the COVID-19 came along.
        I know a man who was hospitalized for a stroke and they claimed he died of COVID-19.!!!

        Pay no attention to the overblown figures on COVID-19. They have not even tested for it. NO tests have even been available for all who died yet!!

        The governments are overstating the deaths due to COVID-19 because they want everyone in the world to demand vaccines!!

        Doesn’t take much to understand the intentions here:
        Bill Gates Admits Vaccines Are For Population Control
        https://youtu.be/_fh3NsxeS7M

        Many thousands of doctors and nurses have been laid of in the last 2 months!!

        usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/04/02/coronavirus-pandemic-jobs-us-health-care-workers-furloughed-laid-off/5102320002/

      3. The name of the game is ‘Increase the MONEY SUPPLY by any means necessary’ today.

        The Trump administration announced Friday that it plans to reimburse providers at Medicare rates if they treat uninsured patients for COVID-19.

        Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said during the White House Coronavirus Task Force briefing that the funds would be pulled from the $100 billion allocated to hospitals as part of the economic stimulus package.

        “Getting the uninsured access to the care they need is a top priority for President Trump. We are already rolling out the $1 billion in funding for the Families First Coronavirus Response Act to cover providers’ expenses for testing and diagnosing the uninsured. The Cares Act, signed by the President, includes another $100 billion for healthcare providers,” Azar said.
        See:
        fiercehealthcare.com/hospitals-health-systems/trump-administration-to-pay-hospitals-to-treat-uninsured-covid-patients

        Even before COVID-19….

        Should the CDC Oversee Vaccine Safety When They Purchase Over $5 Billion of Vaccines from Big Pharma?
        See:
        vaccineimpact.com/2018/should-the-cdc-oversee-vaccine-safety-when-they-purchase-over-5-billion-of-vaccines-from-big-pharma/

        CDC Paid Maryland $123 Million to Promote Gardasil Vaccine as Requirement for School Attendance
        See:
        vaccineimpact.com/2019/cdc-paid-maryland-123-million-to-promote-gardasil-vaccine-as-requirement-for-school-attendance/

        Facebook Owner Admits to Congress that They are Censoring Vaccine Safety Information
        See:
        https://vaccineimpact.com/2019/facebook-owner-admits-to-congress-that-they-are-censoring-vaccine-safety-information/

      4. So shall this Event, an apparent defining moment of the early 21st (not so) brave new century world, be entered into the Real World Dictionary as …

        “The Corporate Coronavirus Relief Fund Era”
        or shall it be christened …
        “The Coronavirus Corporate Relief Fund Era”

        Yeah, the second one does have a much nicer ring to it. So for whatever it’s worth, I’m gonna just stick with Mencken’s Law on this one, as well.

        “The cynics are right nine times out of ten”

  27. yeah, it’s just another coincidence…
    The CARES ACT was written in advance, like the Patriot Act…
    HR 3548 and HR 748 – January 24th, 2019…
    Ain’t that what this says?
    https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/748
    Both are titled Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act / the CARES Act.
    Both were introduced one year earlier at the congress on January 24th, 2019!|
    The “Powers-That-Shouldn’t-Be” were already preparing to save us from the Coronavirus!!!
    Because they just care for us so much!
    You will NOT be getting important information from the controlled media, but it’s right there
    for all the world to see on Congress.gov!
    Check That – you might get the real information, if someone at FOX JEWS leaves a mic open…

    1. Fel –

      Thanks for the link! It is worth expansion:
      https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

      Fully referenced facts about Covid-19, provided by experts in the field, to help our readers make a realistic risk assessment. (Regular updates below)

      “The only means to fight the plague is honesty.” Albert Camus, The Plague (1947)

      Overview

      NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden warned that the corona crisis is used for the massive and permanent expansion of global surveillance. The renowned virologist Pablo Goldschmidt spoke of a “global media terror” and “totalitarian measures”. Leading British virologist Professor John Oxford spoke of a “media epidemic”.
      IN A FREE SOCIETY NEW POWER IS TAKEN BY TYRANTS THROUGH EMERGENCIES!!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pcQFTzck_c

      According to data from the best-studied countries such as South Korea, Iceland, Germany and Denmark, the overall lethality of Covid19 is between 0.1% and 0.4% and thus up to twenty times lower than initially assumed by the WHO.
      A study in Nature Medicine comes to a similar conclusion even for the Chinese city of Wuhan. The initially significantly higher values for Wuhan were obtained because many people with only mild or no symptoms were not recorded.
      50% to 80% of test-positive individuals remain symptom-free. Even among the 70 to 79 year old persons about 60% remain symptom-free, many more show only mild symptoms.
      The median age of the deceased in most countries (including Italy) is over 80 years and only about 1% of the deceased had no serious previous illnesses. The age and risk profile of deaths thus essentially corresponds to normal mortality. Up to 60% of all Covid19-related deaths have occurred in particularly vulnerable nursing homes.
      Many media reports of young and healthy people dying from Covid19 have proven to be false upon closer inspection. Many of these people either did not die from Covid19 or they in fact had serious preconditions (such as undiagnosed leukaemia).
      Normal overall mortality in the US is about 8000 people per day, in Germany about 2600 people and in Italy about 1800 people per day. Influenza mortality in the US is up to 80,000, in Germany and Italy up to 25,000, and in Switzerland up to 1500 people per winter.
      Strongly increased death rates, as in northern Italy, can be influenced by additional risk factors such as very high air pollution and microbial contamination as well as a collapse in the care of the elderly and sick due to mass panic and lockdown measures.
      In countries such as Italy and Spain, and to some extent Great Britain and the US, a serious overload of hospitals, notably by the flu, is not unusual. In addition, up to 15% of doctors and nurses currently have to self-quarantine, even if they develop no symptoms.
      An important distinction concerns the question of whether people die with or indeed from coronaviruses. Autopsies show that in many cases the previous illnesses were an important or decisive factor, but the official figures usually do not reflect this.
      Thus in order to assess the danger of the disease, the key indicator is not the often mentioned number of test-positive persons and deceased, but the number of persons who actually and unexpectedly develop or die of pneumonia.
      The often shown exponential curves of “corona cases” are misleading, since the number of tests also increases exponentially. In most countries, the ratio of positive tests to total tests either remains constant between 5% to 25% or increases rather slowly.
      Countries without lockdowns and contact bans, such as Japan, South Korea and Sweden, have not experienced a more negative course of events than other countries. This might call into question the effectiveness of such far-reaching measures.
      According to leading lung specialists, invasive ventilation of Covid19 patients is often counterproductive and causes additional damage to the lungs. The invasive ventilation of Covid19 patients is partly done out of fear of spreading the virus through aerosols.
      Contrary to original assumptions, however, the WHO determined at the end of March that there is no evidence of aerosol dispersal of the virus. A leading German virologist also found no aerosol and no smear infections in a pilot study.
      Many clinics in Europe and the US have been lacking patients and some have had to introduce short-time work. Numerous operations and therapies were cancelled by clinics, even emergency patients sometimes stay at home out of fear of the virus.
      Several media have been caught trying to dramatize the situation in clinics, sometimes even with manipulative pictures and videos. In general, many media outlets do not question even doubtful official statements and figures.
      The virus test kits used internationally are prone to errors. Several studies have shown that even normal corona viruses can give a false positive result. Moreover, the virus test currently in use has not been clinically validated due to time pressure.
      Numerous internationally renowned experts from the fields of virology, immunology and epidemiology consider the measures taken to be counterproductive and recommend a rapid natural immunisation of the general population while protecting risk groups.
      The number of people suffering from unemployment, psychological problems and domestic violence as a result of the measures taken has exploded in the US and worldwide. Several experts believe that the measures may claim more lives than the virus itself.

      See also: The Open Letter by Professor Bhakdi to German Chancellor Merkel.

      1. Pat,

        “Influenza mortality in the US is up to 80,000”

        Not correct. These are the official CDC numbers:

        https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html

        The 2017-2018 season was the worst in the past decade. There is a 95% chance the true number of deaths is between 46,000 and 95,000 for this particular season, so they gave their best shot at 61,000 deaths. Statistically if we wanted 100% sure the interval would be to large. The CDC says these numbers are “preliminary and may change as data are finalized.”

        I find amazing the double standards, the flu numbers are like solid hard data while the Covid numbers are statistical, estimated, corrupted and inflated.

        I did the average myself for the last decade, the result is 37,461 deaths per season. Today the ESTIMATED number of Covid related deaths in the US is 47,684 and this thing is far from over. So this season is above the average and it’s going to a record break!

        Why are you working so hard to downplay the threat?

      2. NBTT –

        “Why are you working so hard to downplay the threat?”

        Easy – to Help stave off the proposed universal vaccination certifications to live as uncontrolled as possible and push back on government acceptance of Gates’s plans to accomplish that diabolical plan.

        Gates will make $$$BILLIONS, maybe $$$TRILLIONS while poisoning and trapping the world, and, thus…. wielding more power than he has now! 💥 🤢

        Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Exposes Bill Gates & His Relationship With Big Pharma!
        https://www.collective-evolution.com/2019/02/24/robert-f-kennedy-jr-exposes-bill-gates-his-relationship-with-big-pharma/

        (excerpt)
        “Bill Gates is fond of using his bully pulpit to talk about “miracles” and “magic.” Gates has featured one or both words in nearly all of his annual wrap-up letters for the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2016 and 2017), most often in reference to the Gates Foundation’s outsized financial and ideological support for global vaccine programs. As Gates says, “In the same way that during my Microsoft career I talked about the magic of software, I now spend my time talking about the magic of vaccines.”

      3. NBTT –

        I do not believe the CDC.

        The CDC lies like a rug…. AND…. the CDC told health professions, hospitals, doctors, nurses and CORONERS to LIE… LIE about COVIC-19 numbers…. in the April 3, 2020 GUIDELINES they circulated!!

        The GUIDELINES document I mentioned is here:
        https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf

        From the CDC’s Vital Statistics Reporting Guidance:

        ”CONCLUSION”
        “An accurate count of the number of deaths due to COVID–19 infection, which depends in part on proper death certification, is critical to ongoing public health surveillance and response. When a death is due to COVID–19, it is likely the UCOD and thus, it should be reported on the lowest line used in Part I of the death certificate. Ideally, testing for COVID–19 should be conducted, but it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate – WITHOUT – this confirmation if the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty.”

        Even before COVID-19….
        Should the CDC Oversee Vaccine Safety When They Purchase Over $5 Billion of Vaccines from Big Pharma?
        See:
        vaccineimpact.com/2018/should-the-cdc-oversee-vaccine-safety-when-they-purchase-over-5-billion-of-vaccines-from-big-pharma/

        RFK Jr claims – CDC OWNS VACCINE PATENTS
        http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/examining-rfk-jrs-claim-cdc-owns-over-20-vaccine-patents

        CDC Paid Maryland $123 Million to Promote Gardasil Vaccine as Requirement for School Attendance
        See:
        vaccineimpact.com/2019/cdc-paid-maryland-123-million-to-promote-gardasil-vaccine-as-requirement-for-school-attendance/

        Facebook Owner Admits to Congress that They are Censoring Vaccine Safety Information
        See:
        vaccineimpact.com/2019/facebook-owner-admits-to-congress-that-they-are-censoring-vaccine-safety-information/

        Chicago Official – Dr. Allison Arwady – CONFIRMS CDC Plot for Mass Vaccination
        Dr. Allison Arwady is now on the front line of Chicago’s response to COVID-19.
        https://youtu.be/YpIabs5fVSI?t=47

      4. Thank you Pat for replying to hysteria with facts.

        It is amazing that after the USC report and the video link you posted of Whitehouse staff that people are still hysterical.

        So many are no longer able to squeeze a fact into their heads.

      5. We agree on vaccines, Pat. They can cause autism because aluminum is pretty bad when accumulated in the brain. Also the required immunological (over) reaction can cause numerous incurable auto-immune diseases. The idea of using vaccines to protect from a pathogen that mutates is quite stupid. That’s practically unanimous on this forum. Bill Gates can take his mandatory vaccine and shove into his ***. 🙂

        However, if you don’t believe in the CDC you don’t believe the numbers you are presenting, right? I’m rearing in the media “80,000 flu deaths in the US” for a couple of months. Where did this number come from other than the CDC? Maybe the US is not a good case to study Covid because every institution is corrupted to the bone.

        P.S. I don’t believe fake leaks from lying politicians.

      6. NBTT –

        I have not asked you to believe anyone.

        My use of the CDC claim of 80,00 was for 2018 in other threads – NOT this year’s deaths, as was the claim in the article I copied.

        I used the 80,000 from the CDC – even though they lie a lot – to show that the did nothing anywhere near a total lockdown in 2018…. but did so with CV-19 with 1/3 the deaths….. by using THEIR OWN numbers. 🙂

        Gilad Atzmon shows the same hypocrisy, provided by HP:

        “The first question that comes to mind is why didn’t America lock itself down amidst its catastrophic 2017-18 influenza as it has now? One may wonder why the CDC didn’t react to the ‘severity’ of the outbreak that was at least three times as lethal as the current Novel Coronavirus health crisis? But, even more disturbing is the fact that despite the severity of the 2017 flu outbreak and its deadly impact, the enormous number of hospitalisations and the infectious rate, the World Health Organisation (WHO) didn’t see the need to alert the world or to close the planet for business as it did this year. Peculiarly, the WHO didn’t even bother to tag the American outbreak as an epidemic or pandemic. It was just an ordinary ‘influenza.’”
        https://gilad.online/writings/2020/4/20/is-amnesia-a-symptom-of-covid-19

  28. I don’t know way we should put much if any faith is what Dr Montagnier has to say. He was seen as some sort of ‘hero’ in the HIV/AIDS imbroglio because by comparison with a lying opportunist like Dr Gallo he did look at least OK. But he promoted the whole ‘viral’ explanation of AIDS which imo could not be more wrong. Now we listen to more drivel based on this original mistake. The opportunity to cloud the issue with all kinds of conspiracies involving ‘bio weapons’ is endless. And totally misses any point imo except to deepen the confusion.

    It reminds me of a lot of 9/11 ‘truth’. So many shills and dopes circling around and just deepening the confusion. What was that guy’s name Professor Jones how many people did he lead on wild goose chases? The truth is usually at bottom ‘simple’. In this instance I believe the simple truth of it is an organized hoax and the more time we spent on the mythical ‘virus’ the more time is being wasted

  29. Have a look at this paper published today:

    https://voxeu.org/article/covid-19-italy-analysis-death-registry-data?qt-quicktabs_cepr_policy_research=0

    It shows a massive increase in total deaths in areas affected by Covid-19 in Italy over and above anything reported during the past few years. At the height of the crisis there was a three fold increase in reported total deaths – no seasonal flu created such a spike in former times. I think a similar study in areas of the US (New York, New Jersey, etc.) and the UK would show similar increases in total deaths. When reported data show such an alarming rise in deaths, surely it is appropriate to term it a disaster and declare a state of emergency. We can argue about what is and isn’t reported as a Covid-19 death, and what emergency measures are appropriate, but there’s no disputing the total number of deaths. So something is indeed killing people all of a sudden to an extent not seen before.

    1. Nobody is arguing that a flu is not circulating and it seems more serious flu. But that is a wild, wild excuse to chip humanity with the Mark of the Beast, bringing forth a tyrannical New World Order.

      Italy was the first to release official figures after 2.5 months of hysteria. They said ~ 8o years old age of death, 98% with underlying causes.

      Therefore, instead of forcing in a New World Order with lock downs , the “authorities” should have made a serious effort at protecting our seniors. They did not! Instead they should have spread the virus far and wide in the rest of the population in order that seniors could then, afterwards, receive complete focus.

  30. FELSASEPP
    Thanks for that link…
    i haven’t read through all this yet, and who knows what’s really true… in reality, with every variation available on the story, we all believe what we want to believe according to some emotional or other psychological trigger we’re carrying around with us, whether we know it or not… i think the females are naturally more cautions, but it’s not just that simple… more likely tend to believe the big rumors of threat and wish to circle the wagons, with them in the center… in some cases i can understand the ad hominum response to the stories coming out of italy, if not china… it’s certainly true, the state and corporate media’s record on things, absent some firsthand knowledge, is way too far off to permit belief in something like this, for me anyway… i don’t think making judgements based on logical conclusions about some person or some organization’s past behavior, you might say ‘criminal record’, is unwarranted… it would be different if the media were journalistic and were asking the questions i want asked.. but if that happened the story would no longer work… we’ve all heard enough from bill gates and we should all understand the big pharma angle by now… i don’t buy it…

  31. What is this Covid-19 nonsense is all about?

    At the very bottom it is about one thing and one thing only: To prevent Russia from breaking free from uni-polar world order where the function of the entire world, including Russia, is to serve the needs of America – the metropolis. If Russia goes free, the rest of the rest of the world goes the same way, which means the end of America as we know it. This cannot be allowed – the stakes are too high.

    All the shit hit the fan when Putin has proposed on Jan 15 this year for the Russian people to vote the sovereignty of Russia. Since then the pressure put on Russia was so high that the vote scheduled for Apr 22 (i.e. today) has to be postponed. Not only that, the 75- year victory parade also has to be postponed for the time being. And all this was accomplished with absolutely bogus coronavirus thing – ingenious invention of the US and UK secret services implemented with (absolutely unprecedented so far by the depth and breadth) support from irredeemably corrupt media that is totally controlled all over the world with few exception here and there like North Korea.

    But mark my words – Russia will go free no matter what. Our president is becoming more and more outspoken about his real plans, and that is just one of those signs:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J8HDC8Uyfs

    Not to worry folks, we will free you from the American fascism gone wild – just like we freed the entire world from the German Nazism 75 years ago, including btw Germans themselves.

    1. @ Circassian

      What does Putin think of Trump? Is he for him or against him? Are they working together, as some believe, or are they mutually antagonistic?

      1. Saki,

        Trump and Putin are the heads of states either of which is the deadliest enemy for the other. That’s all what one needs to know to answer your questions.

        If it’s still not clear to you, let me draw a historical parallel for you.

        What did Stalin think of Hitler? Was he for him or against him? Were they working together, as some idiots believed, or were they mutually antagonistic?

        Only a butt-head like Pat would have you believe that all this is about $$$ while Trump and Putin are the best buddies working together to line their pockets. Sheer idiot! This is a question of life or death for entire nations and states – no less.

        If dignified human life is to go on on Earth, America must go. And go it will. The only question is: how exactly will go it down? One thing seems certain: If Russia is cornered, the entire world will go down with it… just like it started – with a big bang:

        https://theduran.com/putin-want-world-without-russia/

        In the meantime there are some telling developments on the ground:

        https://channel411news.com/2020/04/22/americas-adversaries-emboldened-to-flex-their-muscles-amid-coronavirus/

      2. Circ –

        As a ‘butt-head’ I am proud to be your official dartboard. It gives me great pleasure to be the personal object of YOUR islamic musselman hatred of all that is in the west. I’m sure you make mohammed very proud!

        However, your IGNORANCE of Russian politics and ‘Put-On’ is “BIGGLY” showing!! NO EXPERTISE there!! 🙂

        TASS, Russia’s official news outlet, agrees with ME.

        See:
        “Italy is a NATO member and it is impossible that those Russian military experts could have had permission to arrive in Italy from the Italian government. Without full approval by the White House, any such Russian presence in Italy wouldn’t have been possible.”

        YES!! ITALY is a NATO MEMBER country.

        Between late March 22 and early March 25, 15 Russian planes landed in Italy to bring the necessary personnel and equipment!
        Trump, as NATO’s “YUGE” $$$$ man… had to allow it! 😎

        Russian MILITARY SPECIALISTS arrive in Italy’s Bergamo to help tackle coronavirus…

        Between late March 22 and early March 25, 15 Russian planes landed in Italy to bring the necessary personnel and equipment.
        https://tass.com/world/1135615

        Others ALSO believe that ‘Put-On’ and Trump “YUGE” buddies controlled by jew bankers and chabad.
        Here is one just today:

        Allen
        April 23, 2020 at 10:39 am
        The jewsa will not fight against Russia or china.
        They all work together as we know who rules these countries. All this blaming etc. is just meant as diversion, confusion of the masses as they are regarded as ants. The only ‘war’ they wage in collaboration with each other is the war against the masses.

        The bottom line for you CIRC – wise up, you foolish agitator.

      3. Pat,

        You are a good old man. I am sorry, but that in no way negates my estimate of your mental abilities. In fact, I was quite gentle while drawing those estimates. The situation does not improve as you get even older.

        The very fact that you are allowed to post here at the shit house your absolutely nonsensical and nonstop blabbering (like nukes do not exist, everything boils down to $$$, Jews control money therefore they control everything, etc.) without any moderation is but a proof that you are a perfect useful idiot.

        Every single poster here who has something useful to say is either moderated or driven out.

      4. @ Circassian

        TO PAT: “The very fact that you are allowed to post here at the shit house your absolutely nonsensical and nonstop blabbering (like nukes do not exist, everything boils down to $$$, Jews control money therefore they control everything, etc.) without any moderation is but a proof that you are a perfect useful idiot. Every single poster here who has something useful to say is either moderated or driven out.”

        ADMIN to Circassian:

        Your bad-tempered blathering simply amuses me. Which is why I allow you to call this website a “shithouse” yet again. This is not the first time. Last time, if I remember correctly, you referred to Lasha Darkmoon as this site’s “lavatory attendant”. Did she mind? Not in the least! 🙂

        Have YOU been driven from this site? No, you have not! To ban you would actually be a feather in your cap which you could boast about.

        No sir! — we keep you on a leash like a trained attack dog, letting you off the leash when it suits us, and totally indifferent to your departure. That’s what enrages you, I guess, that you are just not important enough to ban. 🙂

        In fact, we feel a bit sorry for you, if the truth be told.

        BTW, we didn’t ban Lobro, as you appear to think. Like you, he is on moderation. If he chooses not to post, that’s fine with us.

        @ Pat

        Feel free to deal with this disagreeable troll in any way you wish.

      5. Circ –

        I really hit the truth this time! I KNOW I pressed a nerve. Your hatred of the west precedes you.

        I am sooooo very glad to do it AGAIN!! 🙂 🙂
        It gives me great pleasure to be the personal object of YOUR islamic musselman hatred of all that is in the west. I’m sure you make mohammed very proud!

      6. @Pat

        I really hit the truth this time! I pressed a nerve. Your hatred of the west precedes you.

        Let me correct you there, Pat. “Hatred” is not the right word here: One does not hate what is shitty – one is disgusted with what is shitty. Do you see the difference?

        @ Admin Toby

        You seem a bit upset, brother. You shouldn’t be for I am just telling the truth. It would do much good to you if you could just listen to a wise man with proper attention.

        And what is this stupid practice of speaking on behalf of Lasha all the time? Let the Queen of the shithouse speak for herself. Are you her lapdog or her uncle, damn it?

        If you are a man behave yourself like one, if you are a poodle just bark a signal and I won’t bother with you any more.

      7. @ Circassiam

        @ “Admin Toby: You seem a bit upset, brother.”

        If I were upset, I wouldn’t let you go on “upsetting” me by posting your comments, would I?

        I would just delete your comments or ban you outright.

        As for Lasha, she is not interested in engaging in heated debate with fanatics who believe the earth is flat (TROJ) … or with the half-witted worshippers of mass murderers like Josef Stalin. She has been advised to stand aloof from all contact with obnoxious boors and people with serious personality disorders.

    2. @Circassian

      Logic and precedent prove that nukes do not exist; we’ve been over this many, many times. I do find it fascinating that people choose fear over relief: we are instinctively driven to pick the darker door. Or perhaps we are so indoctrinated by the relentless propaganda that we only see a constructed darkness. Ah well.

      1. @Flopot

        Logic and precedent prove that nukes do not exist.

        Very well, let’s deal with this issue with a logic that even the dumb Darkmoon dwellers can understand.

        You wouldn’t deny the existence of nuclear power plants all over the world, as well as the reality of nuclear submarines, American nuclear aircraft carriers and Russian nuclear icebreakers, would you? Even Pat, as dumb as he is, wouldn’t deny the reality of these things. So, no one in his right mind can deny that nuclear energy is fucking real.

        Now I am asking you a no-brainer question: Did humans ever discover a form of energy and stop short or fail subsequently at inventing entirely new weaponry based on that form of energy?

      2. Flo –

        Correct!

        The whole world now has a new threat of fear porn to believe. That is the long train of diseases coming down the tracks. They will replace the old worn out nuke fear porn.

      3. Circ –

        Stationary nuclear power plants on ships and land do exist.
        Mobile nuclear explosive weapons do not.

        For the 2017 book on the nuke hoax…. please see the review below on – “Death Object: Exploding Nuclear Weapons Hoax” by Akio Nakatani.
        The author, Akio Nakatani, is a *Japanese* Professor of Applied Mathematics and Statistics.
        https://fakeologist.com/forums/topic/book-about-nuclear-weapons-hoax/

        A-Bomb HOAX 1945 – 2019
        http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm

      4. @Pat

        “Now I am asking you a no-brainer question: Did humans ever discover a form of energy and stop short or fail subsequently at inventing entirely new weaponry based on that form of energy?

        YES!! YOU ARE the “no-brainer” – islamic DUMMY!!
        In 1954 – the THORIUM REACTOR is in use today!! Keep your scimitar handy.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9M__yYbsZ4

        The more you speak – the more it becomes clear that you are, indeed, an idiot. Did you at least read the description below the video you are referring to, butt-head?

        Thorium is plentiful & can be used to generate energy without creating transuranic wastes. Thorium’s capacity as nuclear fuel was discovered during WW II, but ignored because it was unsuitable for making bombs.

        (1) Thorium as nuclear fuel was ignored, idiot, not the nuclear energy.
        (2) And why was it ignored? Because it was unsuitable for making bombs!
        (3) And what was not ignored? Enriched uranium was not ignored. And why it was not ignored? Because it was the only suitable nuclear fuel at the time for making bombs!

        Arguing with an idiot is a total waste of time… unless the idiot is a useful one, of course.

        I told you long time ago that the only use I have for you is to use you as a stepping stone – a useful devise – for making a point.

      5. Circ –

        Keep drinking the kool-aid. Keep scaring folks. And use your islamic prayer mat more often…. or get a brand new shiny magic carpet. Go for a ride. 🙂
        Maybe allah can remove your foul language…. if you become a better musselman.

        NOW – Back to subject, before your foul-mouth ranting – like a crazed sunni-musselman.

        “In a time when telling the truth is a threat to national security… I will still tell it!” – Dr Annie Bukacek

        From a doctor who has been signing Death Certificates for over 30 years:

        Dr Annie Bukacek EXPLAINS COVID DEATH MANIPULATION
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYC_omNIBTg

        Dr. Annie Bukacek is a longtime Montana physician with over 30 years experience practicing medicine. Signing death certificates is a routine part of her job.

        Dr. Bukacek blows the whistle on the way the CDC is instructing physicians to exaggerate COVID-19 deaths on death certificates.

      6. @ Pat

        Circassian is not a Muslim. You are making that up. That’s your rampant Islamophobic racism showing its ugly face. A Muslim would have absolutely no reason to be a fanatical supporter of Stalin.

        If you have any evidence that Circassian is a Muslim, produce it!

      7. SR –

        Circ slipped up a while back and praised allah and included (pbuh).
        He did not deny being an islamist in the five or so recent comments where I mentioned that.

        If he is not…. let Circ write it…. not you.

        I’ll ask you to show proof of his religion.

        Toby wrote me to let Circ have it….. so I did just THAT!! 🙂

        SEE:
        @ Pat
        “Feel free to deal with this disagreeable troll in any way you wish.”

      8. @ Pat

        You are very sharp. Maybe you’re right about him being Muslim, but not necessarily. The impression I always got is that he was a Russian Jew posting from Moscow.

        Let me explain.

        His praise of Allah (pbhu) could have been a deliberate attempt to deflect the accusation that he was a Jewish troll by masquerading as a Muslim. He knows he’s hated on this site and that, by saying he is Muslim, he gets Muslims hated. As a Jew, he hates Muslims for two reasons (a) because of Palestine, (b) because the Commie government in Russia hates Muslims also and persecute them in Chechyna.

        Saying he’s Muslim is a red herring in other words. He WANTS you to think he’s Muslim (and hate Muslims all the more). And if you do that, he succeeds in hiding his Jewishness from you. These Jews are smart ones, Pat. They pretend to be Muslims all the time. They do it in Syria and the secret leader of ISIS is a Jew with a Muslim name.

        So this is what I believe:
        Circassian = JEW PRETENDING TO BE MUSLIM.

        I apologize for attacking you, but you could also be right. However, most Muslims don’t behave like him. His behaviour suggests to me: “Jewish troll”. I don’t think Mahmoud would accept that this guy is Muslim.

        Just my two cents…

      9. @ Pat
        You are very sharp.

        This is just another proof that Pat is maintained by the cabal of gatekeepers of this site as the ultimate useful idiot.

        I can’t think of any other reason to hail a stupid person as a sharp one… unless Silent Reader is even more stupid than Pat himself that is.

      10. @ Circassian

        No, there is no “gatekeeping” going on here. If there was, I wouldn’t have had about TWENTY of my posts deleted! Just check against my name. You will repeatedly see, just under my moniker, Admin’s stern message: OFFENSIVE COMMENT DELETED!

        For the record, (1) I don’t agree with Pat that there are NO NUKES. Nor do most posters here. Nor does Admin. We all believe in the reality of nuclear weapons. Pat appears to be the major exception to this rule and has often been ridiculed on this site for holding this bizarre opinion. (2) So it follows that this site is NOT pushing the view that nuclear weapons do not exist, as you foolishly state. (3) What the site is doing is simply allowing a certain degree of FREE SPEECH in letting such conspiracy theories be aired.

        If you were in charge of this site, you would censor Pat. You would not allow him to put his viewpoint about nukes. You would be authoritarian like Stalin, removing everyone who dares to think differently. Your site would be boring and predictable, with all posters forced to parrot your own dogmatic views.

        The question still remains: Are you a JEW OR A MUSLIM? Or are you neither?

        My own guess is that you are a RUSSIAN JEW located in America … or in Moscow, as you yourself once stated on this site. Two things thing you cannot hide: your pathological hatred of America and your pathological love of Stalin.

        And of course there’s a THIRD thing you cannot hide: your pathological sense of intellectual superiority which results in you constantly abusing almost EVERY POSTER HERE as intellectual trash. Pat need not be worried. He is just one of a long line of posters you have done your best to undermine, abuse, and insult.

        I really do recommend that Admin should give you the boot. We have all had enough of your nasty temper and ugly sneering.

      11. @ Silent Reader

        Why are you speaking on behalf of this site, and why do you consider yourself entitled to advise the Admins of this site how should they run it?

        What you, son of a bitch, know about Stalin that the entire nation, which considers him one of the best leaders it ever had, does not know about him?

        Don’t you realize how stupid it sounds when some idiot, like yourself, comes alone it tells an intelligent person – who was born in Russia, who was raised in Russia, who knows the history of Russia, and like any normal human being loves his country and his nation – should think about Stalin?

      12. @ Circassian

        “Why are you speaking on behalf of this site…?

        Is it a crime to speak up on behalf of a site that is plagued by people like you who have declared war on the site and described it as a “public lavatory?” Do you consider it more “reasonable” that I should attack the site like you? NO, I don’t! It is YOU who are the FOOL here for bothering to hover round a site you hate, like a demented dung fly, instead of buggering off!

        “What you, son of a bitch, know about Stalin…? …. Don’t you realize how stupid it sounds when some idiot, like yourself, comes alone it tells an intelligent person – who was born in Russia, who was raised in Russia, who knows the history of Russia, and like any normal human being loves his country and his nation – should think about Stalin?”

        I am not telling you what to think about Stalin. Feel free to adore him. I reserve the right to see Stalin as the West sees him, as a bloodthirsty psychopath who killed millions of his own people, burnt down thousands of Christian churches, killed thousands of Orthodox Christian Russian clergy, persecuted the kulaks and confiscated their corn, collectivized farms against the will of the peasants, created man-made familes like Holodomor, encouraged the Red Army through hs Jewish commissars to help rape and murder 2millions German women, and sent millions to his gulags in Siberia to die of hard labor and semi-starvation.

        Judtify that if you can, you sadistic sonofabitch. Ot get your brain-damaged Western sidekick (Libro?) to come here and do your dirty work for you! Neither of you, I gather, has been banned from this site, but am I not entitled to advise Admin TO GIVE YOU SICKOS THE BOOT?

        You have no right to push your pro-Stalin propaganda her on a site that has made it quite clear that this is an ANTI-STALIN site! So why don’t you F** OFF, you foul-mouthed piece of human trash!

        Not so ‘Silent Reader’

      13. Even Orwell hated Stalin and portrayed Stalin as NAPOLEON THE PIG in “Animal Farm!” This brilliant satirical novel is an expose of Stalin’s Russia.

        You want to call Orwell a fool? Go ahead! You can mock me, but you can’t mock Orwell! 🙂

        https://slideplayer.com/slide/4419311/14/images/18/Napoleon+%3D+Joseph+Stalin.jpg

        As one of the biggest figures in the Russian Revolution, it is inevitable that Stalin has a counterpart in the famous novel ‘Animal Farm’, which is a metaphor for the Russian Revolution. George Orwell chooses to portray Stalin through a character called Napoleon. Napoleon is a dim-witted greedy pig who is a leader of the farm after the rebellion and removal of Mr Jones, the human farmer. Just like Stalin, Napoleon is a master at pulling strings behind scenes. He raises the puppies and trains them into hounds that behaves like Stalin’s secret police force (the KGB) to assassinate Leo Trotsky, (Snowball), one of Stalin’s chief rivals.

        https://animal-farm-information.weebly.com/napoleon.html

      14. @ Silent Reader

        So why don’t you F** OFF, you foul-mouthed piece of human trash!

        Not so ‘Silent Reader’

        Have you looked in the mirror lately, bastard!

        I am done with you, so you can go and f*ck yourself in quietude or not so silently.

    1. NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden warned that the corona crisis is used for the massive and permanent expansion of global surveillance. The renowned virologist Pablo Goldschmidt spoke of a “global media terror” and “totalitarian measures”. Leading British virologist Professor John Oxford spoke of a “media epidemic”.

      IN A FREE SOCIETY NEW POWER IS TAKEN BY TYRANTS THROUGH EMERGENCIES!!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pcQFTzck_c

      1. @ Pat

        Brilliant! Apologies if I offended you with my previous post. What you say here is good. Your instincts are sound. We are all stressed out and confused here right now, so apologies again for going off the deep end. Guess I could do with some more green tea! 🙂

  32. Dear ARCH STANTON, Muslims have not infiltrated our government and secretly running our nation. They are part of the fabric that makes America great. They are an assets and not a liability. There are 1000s of US Muslims serving in every branch of our armed forces. Muslims have served in every war and conflict America was involved in. What you said is shameful and a total fabirication. I could not believe it as I was reading your hateful and ignorant comment. You came out of the blue with your outlandish allegation when the issue at hand is Lasha’s article about Coronavirus Bombshell. You were not only off topic but also propagate hatred and division here. This make me wonder of your are the one who called Amani Al-Khatahtbeh on the evening of April 21. Miss Al-Khatahtbeh reportedly received a phone call from an unknown number threatening to kill her and her family. She received the threat shortly after a virtual town hall she hosted on Instagram.

    @ Lasha, I did enjoy reading your insightful and thorough investigative article. You are as good as always

    The caller said in part: “Your parents live at [address]. I will f**king kill them and. . .I will torture them and feed them bacon and f**king pork…As soon as you get off the phone, I’ll f**king go to his house…”Ni**er, you’re Muslim, you f**king ugly Arab Muslim. You terrorist.”

    LISTEN TO DEATH THREAT

    In a statement, CAIR-NJ Executive Director Selaedin Maksut said:

    “The chilling death threat exemplifies how Muslim candidates are especially targeted during election cycles.

    “We know Islamophobia follows election cycles and is often exacerbated and amplified by the negative rhetoric of political leaders.

    “At a time in which our nation is facing an alarming rise in xenophobia, Islamophobia and racism, it is sadly no surprise to see such horrific calls. These death threats have become all too common for Muslim candidates, but we must not allow ourselves to be numbed by their frequency.

    “Political leaders must denounce such hatred in order to protect the safety of Muslim Americans and all minority communities.”

    1. Mahmoud,

      I wish you would post here more often. We have very few good Muslim posters here and you are the best. I know for a fact that Lasha is very fond of you and always looks forward to hearing what you have to say. Remember this: the Darkmoon site is 100% pro-Palestinian. Always has been and always will be.

      1. @ Sardonicus

        Just read your comment and was surprised to hear this is a pro-Palestinian site. I am Palestinian. Is it safe for me to post here? I heard this was a dangerous site with many mad people writing comments here. Is this true? Please someone reassure me this is an OK site.

      2. @ SARDONICUS,

        Good to hear from you, old buddy. You made me blush. I can’t disagree with you that Darkmoon’s site is 100% pro-Palestinian. I also know for a fact that this site is one of few sites I know that contribute to charitable Palestinian organizations. I do hold Lasha in high regard. I have to admit that many of my letters and articles that were labelled as unfit to print by mainstream news media was published here at Darkmoon unedited. I’m proud to say that Darkmoon has published me when my hometown newspaper refused to do so. It is also ironic that my pro-Palestinian letters and articles that were published in the Israeli press were rejected by mainstream media.

        I am glad I crossed paths with you, Lasha, Ruth, and Madam Butterfly twelve years ago. You were adamant supporters of the Palestinian cause and I will never forget you. I never met any of you in person and I never will but you were all true friends.

      3. Salam, TULIP SADIQ, welcome to Darkmoon! You will be in good hands here and among friends. I don’t always agree with everyone here but that’s the beauty of it. It would be boring and dull if I agreed with everybody on everything. I think it’s more challenging and fun when others challenge your viewpoints. The only exception I don’t like it when people attack you personally and put your faith down but hey, we live in America and everybody is entitled for his/her opinions even if it was a bigoted one.

        This site is like a flower bouquet with different colors, kinds, and smells of flowers. If all the flowers were all the same, it would be dull.

      4. Thank you for your kind words, Mahmoud. Most uplifting. I am glad this site has never discriminated against you and is in full support of the Palestinian cause. This alone convinces me that I was misinformed about the site. I was told it was a very dangerous site and to avoid it. Now that I know it’s OK maybe I’ll post on it, especially if you are here to defend me if I am attacked by Islamophobes. If only people knew we are not all jihadi terrorists with bombs in our pockets! We Muslims had nothing to do with 9/11. And if only more people knew this, I think we would be more liked and respected.

  33. I make NO CLAIMS – YOU DECIDE!! 🙂

    Trump wants to stop Wuhan lab funding, Obama’s NIH sent $3.7M to lab coronavirus may have originated
    See him say so:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvXYFQRxYIA

    C-SPAN
    Reporter: “Thank you, Mr. President. U.S. intelligence is saying this week that the coronavirus likely came from a level 4 lab in Wuhan. There’s also another report that the NIH, under the Obama administration, in 2015 gave that lab $3.7 million in a grant. Why would the U.S. give a grant like that to China?”
    See Question and response by Trump:
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4869590/user-clip-us-2015-grant-wuhan-lab-question

    Remarks by President Trump, Vice President Pence, and Members of the Coronavirus Task Force in Press Briefing | April 17, 2020
    President: “Please, in the back.”

    Q Thank you, Mr. President. U.S. intelligence is saying this week that the coronavirus likely came from a level 4 lab in Wuhan. There’s also another report that the NIH, under the Obama administration, in 2015 gave that lab $3.7 million in a grant. Why would the U.S. give a grant like that to China?

    THE PRESIDENT: The Obama administration gave them a grant of $3.7 million? I’ve been hearing about that. And we’ve instructed that if any grants are going to that area — we’re looking at it, literally, about an hour ago, and also early in the morning. We will end that grant very quickly.

    But it was granted quite a while ago. They were granted a substantial amount of money. We’re going to look at it and take a look. But I understand it was a number of years ago, right?

    Q So you are (inaudible)?

    THE PRESIDENT: When did you hear — when did you hear it was — the grant was made?

    Q 2015.

    THE PRESIDENT: 2015? Who was President then? I wonder.
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-april-17-2020/

    NIH $$$ to China Revealed:
    U.S. government gave $3.7million grant to Wuhan lab at center of coronavirus leak scrutiny –The US National Institutes of Health, a government agency, awarded a 3.7million research grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology –The lab is the center of several conspiracy theories that suggest it is the original source of the coronavirus outbreak | 12 April 2020 | The Chinese laboratory at the center of scrutiny over a potential coronavirus leak has been using U.S. government m-ney to carry out research on bats from the caves which scientists believe are the original source of the deadly outbreak. The Wuhan Institute of Virology undertook coronavirus experiments on mammals captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan which were funded by a 3.7 million grant from the US government.
    gilmermirror.com/view/full_story/27725107/article-U-S–government-gave-%243-7million-grant-to-Wuhan-lab-at-center-of-coronavirus-leak-scrutiny?

    Obama Gave Infamous Wuhan Lab Millions In Taxpayer Money. Trump Has Vowed To End Further Grants.
    abc14news.com/2020/04/20/obama-gave-infamous-wuhan-lab-millions-in-taxpayer-money-trump-has-vowed-to-end-further-grants/

    Obama gave infamous Wuhan lab millions in taxpayer money. Trump has vowed to end further grants.
    theblaze.com/news/obama-gave-infamous-wuhan-lab-millions-in-taxpayer-money-trump-has-vowed-to-end-further-grants

    1. Tulip Sadiq :

      I’m pro Palestinian and I’m pro Muslim Al-Biruni and I’m pro Muslim scholars of Islam’s Golden Age and I’m treated like garbage here at Darkmoon. By the way, qua Muslim that you are, what do you think of the Great Muslim Scholar Al-Biruni? I bet you like Biruni a lot, Biruni being a fellow Muslim to you and you LERV Muslims, right, so of course it’s natural for you to LERV your fellow Muslim Al-Biruni, right? Tell us why you LERV your fellow Muslim Al-Biruni so much, I 😉 bet it will be a very long post, lol….

      Qua Muslim that you are you must be a Flat Earth Geocentric, right, because in your Islamic Holy Book The Quran ALLAH HIMSELF IS A FLAT EARTH GEOCENTRIC . Peace Be Unto ALLAH and ALL OTHER Flat Earth Geocentrics 🌙

      1. TULIP SADIQ,

        You said, ” I’ll post on it, especially if you are here to defend me if I am attacked by Islamophobes”

        I say, I will defend you to death only if you were unfairly attacked.

  34. I have to say I’m now 100% convinced that SARS-CoV-2 is a bioweapon unleashed against China by the USRaeli Empire of Evil.

    There are just too many oddities; too many similarities to 9/11 and other acts of USRaeli terrorism. If it was just one or two things, maybe you could call it coincidence, but there are so many that it can only be cohencidence, IMO.

    Particularly troubling to me is the anti-China rhetoric; the talk of “holding China responsible.” It is nauseatingly reminiscent of the post 9/11 anti-Arab/Islamic jingoism. We didn’t need no stinkin’ investigation into 9/11 and we don’t need no stinkin’ investigation into where the virus came from or how the Trump administration botched the response, etc. Osama bin Laden and Iraq did 9/11 and China did SARS-CoV-2. Period. The end.

    Just today I saw this:

    http://www.cuzzblue.com/2020/04/tom-cotton-dan-crenshaw-make-bold-new.html

    And I quickly discovered that wherever the subject of Chinese culpability is being discussed anywhere on the internet, it seems there is a well-coordinated army of trolls demanding action; clamoring for swift retribution. The in-your-face self-righteous indignation is breathtaking; just like it was on 09/12/2001, and the meaning of it all could not be any clearer: JUDEA DECLARES WAR ON CHINA.

    It seems Judea is angry, very angry, and I infer it’s because the biological attack on China didn’t go as planned. Unexpectedly, the Chinese were somehow able to quickly detect and identify the virus lock down the hotspots and take control of the situation before it got out of hand. I suspect that the attackers were counting on the advent of Chinese New Year celebrations to distribute the virus throughout the whole country…and utterly devastate the Chinese economy well into the foreseeable future…and perhaps even bring about regime change in Beijing.

    So what happened? Why did the attack fail to achieve the attackers’ goal? Could it be because the Chinese had this technology?

    https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2004/10/sensor-detects-identifies-single-viruses/

    And is that why the guy in the picture, Charles Lieber, was arrested in January? (And may be getting the Assange treatment).

    Finally, consider “Crimson Contagion”: “a simulation administered by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services from January to August 2019 that tested the capacity of the U.S. federal government and twelve U.S. states to respond to a severe influenza pandemic originating in China.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Contagion

    In keeping with tradition, a drill immediately precedes the event it was supposed to simulate. Funny that.

    But actually not so funny when I look at the “key findings,” because when I look at the “key findings” I immediately think of Larry Silverstein’s imaginary telephone call with the NY “Fire Dept. Commander” and I think of Hymie Brown’s famous “steel melts” appearance on NBC TeeVee on 09/11/2001.

    So let’s look at the whole picture here.

    First, we had the 2015 study apparently intended to convince us that yes, it’s theoretically possible that a nasty virus could emerge from one of these Chinese bats and cause a pandemic; so we know it doesn’t have to come from a lab, either by accident or on purpose, and we better prepare for it.

    Then in 2018, Trump fired the U.S. pandemic response team, supposedly “to cut costs” IIRC.

    Then in 2019 we had “Crimson Contagion” telling us (and the whole world) that the U.S. is woefully unprepared for a pandemic originating in China.

    Finally after the pandemic begins, Trump makes a public point out of minimizing it with dismissive rhetoric (e.g., it’ a hoax, its basically a cold, just go to work if you’re sick, it’ll be gone in a few months, etc.) to the point of making a fool out of himself (which was apparently the object) for which he was publicly excoriated.

    Put it all together and what do you have? It’s clear to me that we were set up. We were set up just like we were set up to believe that candidate Trump the America-first patriot, had a non-interventionist bent.

    I believe the whole thing was a calculated propaganda ploy, intended to prospectively exculpate the war criminals for their biological war crime against China.

    The 2015 study planted the idea of a dangerous virus emerging from a bat and potentially gives China a face-saving “way out.”

    That the outbreak occurred near a Chinese lab is psychic balm for those conspiracy-theory-minded-low-information “patriots” who don’t believe the bat theory but can’t accept that “their own” “government” could do something so evil.

    Then Trump the bumbling fool fires the pandemic response team, allegedly to save a few dollars (while he squanders hundreds of billions elsewhere).

    Then in 2019 we have “Crimson Contagion,” apparently intended to convince any interested party that the U.S. is so woefully unprepared, so potentially exposed to catastrophic losses that it would never in a million years unleash a bioweapon against China because it’s not prepared for the horrific blowback.

    We had the bumbling fool George Bush and his bumbling administration ignore the warnings that Al-Qaeda was going to attack, and issue visas to the terrorists. And we had the bumbling fool Trump and the bumbling Trup administration ignore warnings of a pandemic and fire the pandemic response team.

    We had the bumbling fool George Bush who allegedly saw a plane hit one of the towers and thought “that’s one bad pilot” (or something like that) and we had the bumbling fool Donald Trump who saw what was happening and described it as nothing more than a bad cold.

    We had the bumbling fool George Bush immediately blame Osama bin Laden without any investigation, and we had bumbling fool Donald Trump immediately blame China, without any investigation.

    Our bumbling “government” spectacularly failed us on 9/11 and our bumbling government spectacularly failed us in the aftermath of SARS-CoV-2.

    I could go on and on, but the picture already seems perfectly clear to me: we are ruled by psychotic, psychopathic madmen who will stop at nothing and are leading us to WW3.

  35. @ Pat
    Thanks for your kind words !
    And here is another piece of the puzzle from Pepe Escobar (21 April 2020):
    The gold standard remains the ABC News report according to which intel collected in November 2019 by the National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI), a subsidiary of the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), was already warning about a new virulent contagion getting out of hand in Wuhan, based on “detailed analysis of intercepted communications and satellite imagery”… The burning question is inevitable: how could the NCMI possibly know all about a viral pandemic, still in November, when Chinese doctors positively identified the first cases of a new type of pneumonia only on December 26 ?
    Israeli intel confirms U.S. intel did in fact warn them in November about a potentially catastrophic pandemic in Wuhan … And NATO allies were warned – in November – as well.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/what-did-u-s-intel-really-know-about-chinese-virus/5710411

    1. Pio –

      Gladly.

      Thanks for more great information on one of the deepest states – the Pentagon and the criminal murderers there.

      “The burning question is inevitable: how could the NCMI possibly know all about a viral pandemic, still in November, when Chinese doctors positively identified the first cases of a new type of pneumonia only on December 26 ?”

      EXACTLY!! My very first thought!!

  36. HS
    “That the outbreak occurred near a Chinese lab is psychic balm for those conspiracy-theory-minded-low-information “patriots” who don’t believe the bat theory but can’t accept that “their own” “government” could do something so evil.”
    Whatever is really happening with the virus, there’s a BIG difference between American Patriots, who want secure borders, free speech (for everybody), free press, free enterprise, all that, and Media Sheepule, who automatically believe and act on whatever their television tells them… Those in the latter group are the ones wearing the masks…
    Patriots are Constitutional Nationalists, who understand first and foremost the people in charge of the US Government are the problem, at the point where those people claim the Constitution (Rule By Law) is defunct and trash the Bill of Rights they are no longer Free Americans….
    Primarily, those are going to be the combination of ruthless corporations and all kinds of Pentagon operatives..
    They’re the ones who are really presiding over the Capitol, and they work with the Zion, as on 9-11…
    Most of us will are willing to make adjustments for National Security reasons, OK, as long as we all understand those Rights can never be taken way by the State… But as JFK said “Not a PaxAmericana”…
    That’s the whole point of having Rights, why they’re called Rights…
    Rights and Protections, given by God, guaranteed by the State Forever…
    That certainly includes the concept of Separation of Church and State, which will protect the citizenry from religious fanaticism…
    The State can’t take them away en masse by Decree, only by individual convictions in a Court of Law…
    Your rights can never “have been suspended by the government”, as the Monster Cop told the Churchgoers in Mississippi…
    Anybody claiming the Bill of Rights no longer applies is not a Patriot, much less does he have a clue about the Process of Progressive Evolution, which is only possible if the real USA can be saved and left to work as a Free Country, whereupon it will rise to the exemplary level, not just as the guy with the biggest gun power, but as the County that develops the apex standard of living for its citizens and their naturally occurring environment…. Those both go hand in hand…
    As far as Trump goes – I think the person he is would do the right thing by the country, but he’s not free to do so, and he doesn’t have what it takes to make it so… Even if the Jews did not own him, the Presidency was quaffed up a long time ago by the Deep State MIC, maybe lost forever… He was given the rules on the day he got elected.. And like he said on election night – “it’s complicated”…

  37. “565 Americans Have Lost Their Job For Every Confirmed COVID-19”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/565-americans-have-lost-their-job-every-confirmed-covid-19-death-us

    How many of the 565 will die due to depression worsening their health, lack of access to health services due to lockdown or suicide? Definitely more than 1

    QED:
    Lockdown’s only purpose is to bring in permanent technocratic tyranny.

    Don’t take Bill’s injection pussies.

  38. ADMIN: COMMENT HELD UP because of typo in user name. Please correct!

    @ SEEB
    @ Sardonicus
    @ Toby
    @ Tulip Sadiq
    @ Dr. Lasha Darkmoon

    First of all, I would like to wish all Muslim commenters on this site a happy and blessed Ramadan.
    Secondly, upon the request of the five mentioned above. Here goes.

    Contrary to what President Trump’s tweet few days ago, Muslims in America are not seeking favors or special privilege during the CORONAVIRUS Pandemic. Pardon me, Mr. Trump, but there is no faith that exposes the lives of its followers to danger. Muslim leaders are asking people to stay home and pray there and not at the mosques, respect the law and the government orders, and do not expose yourself and your loved ones and others to danger. Obviously, our President got it backwards about Muslim-Americans.

    Just for the record, the National Muslim COVID-19 Taskforce is a broad coalition of more than 40 American Muslim organizations has released an advisory that strongly recommends Muslims nationwide continue to take all necessary precautions to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 during the month of Ramadan. . .

    The National Muslim COVID-19 Taskforce strongly recommends, from both an Islamic and public health perspective, that the Muslim community take aggressive measures to reduce transmission of the virus, including:

    * following public health guidelines
    * practicing social distancing
    * staying at home
    * temporarily canceling public congregational prayers, including Taraweeh (an optional evening prayer) and Eid ul-Fitr prayers
    * fasting and praying at home during the month of Ramadan

    The Taskforce is encouraging Muslims to donate Zakat (obligatory charitable giving) and Sadaqah (optional charitable giving) to organizations that are supporting vulnerable communities in the United States and abroad.

  39. @SEEB, wow, I am highly impressed! Blessed are the peacemakers (Matthew 5:9) I do appreciate your feedback and input. I was not expecting such a lengthy comment. I have to admit, I have to read it twice to get the main point. And upon your request and as well as of other 7 other people on this site to continue to post here, Here goes.

    The National Muslim COVID-19 Taskforce, is a broad coalition of more than 40 American Muslim organizations has released an advisory that strongly recommends Muslims nationwide continue to take all necessary precautions to help prevent the spread of COVID-19 during the month of Ramadan. . .

    The National Muslim COVID-19 Taskforce strongly recommends, from both an Islamic and public health perspective, that the Muslim community take aggressive measures to reduce transmission of the virus, including:

    * following public health guidelines
    * practicing social distancing
    * staying at home
    * temporarily canceling public congregational prayers, including Taraweeh (an optional evening prayer) and Eid ul-Fitr prayers
    * fasting and praying at home during the month of Ramadan

    The Taskforce is encouraging Muslims to donate Zakat (obligatory charitable giving) and Sadaqah (optional charitable giving) to organizations that are supporting vulnerable communities in the United States and abroad.

  40. I think the Malthus quote is bogus. It goes against his whole outlook. Malthus was a Christian. What he actually said reflects a very different mentality. His views have been distorted for hundreds of years, most notably by Dickens (I think satirically, since Dickens was extremely intelligent.) Read Malthus for yourself and you’ll see what I mean.

    1. @ Carlos Porter,

      Yes, I sympathize with you for thinking “the quote is bogus”. I thought so too myself. For a Christian clergyman to speak like this seemed to me utterly bizarre. However, it appears our suspicions are unfounded.

      I checked with Lasha and she assures me the quote is genuine. It can be found in in Book 4, Chapter 5 of Malthus’s “Essay on the Principle of Population (1798). Here is the quote in its entirety from Wikiquotes. Wikiquotes is 100 per cent reliable:

      We should facilitate, instead of foolishly and vainly endeavouring to impede, the operations of nature in producing this mortality; and if we dread the too frequent visitation of the horrid form of famine, we should sedulously encourage the other forms of destruction, which we compel nature to use.

      Instead of recommending cleanliness to the poor, we should encourage contrary habits. In our towns we should make the streets narrower, crowd more people into the houses, and court the return of the plague.

      In the country, we should build our villages near stagnant pools, and particularly encourage settlements in all marshy and unwholesome situations. But above all, we should reprobate specific remedies for ravaging diseases; and those benevolent, but much mistaken men, who have thought they were doing a service to mankind by projecting schemes for the total extirpation of particular disorders. — Thomas Malthus, Essay on the Principle of Population, Book IV, Chapter V]

      https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Robert_Malthus#Essay_on_the_Principle_of_Population_(1798;_rev._through_1826)

      Weird beyond weird! To use one’s of Lasha favourite words: “Weirdissimo!”

      1. Then he was not Christian. This is nothing new: so-called “cryptos” have been using Christianity as a cover for a thousand years or more. However, even at the more mundane level of ordinary Church-goings, your local mass will have some selfish and spiteful parishioners who spent the previous week making life miserable for their neighbours. So from high-flying liars to lowly hypocrites, you should not be shocked at the behaviour of some people who are supposedly Christian.

      2. @ Flopot

        Well, I agree with you that Malthus was not a Christian in the religious sense. He was, however, a nominal Christian in that he took Holy Orders and became a curate of the Church of England. Nothing “crypto” about this — I sincerely hope you’re not suggesting hew was a crypto-Jew! You know more than me if you can prove he had “Jewish roots”! Not a shred of evidence for this daft idea! 🙂

        Entering the Church in those days was simply a career move for the sons of the gentry. It was a toss-up between the Church or the Army. That is, if one didn’t have a private income. The average clergyman in those days, if doing well for himself, was under no obligation to be a pious Christian! He was usually a gentleman scholar, dabbling in Botany and spending a lot of his time fox-hunting and shooting rabbits and game birds. To earn his keep, he would give a sermon once a week in the local church and visit a few poor parishioners now and then. And his wife would play Lady Bountiful, riding out to visit poor cottagers with a few groceries in her saddle bag.

        These gentry were far more likely to be antisemitic, since Jews were held in open contempt in those days. Racism was the norm, with the White man confident in his belief that God had called him to rule the earth and take Christianity to the four corners of the globe. Hence the missionaries in India and China usually preceded the gunboats! Imperialism began with a Bible and ended with a shower of bullets. 🙂

      3. Well said, Sister Monica! A beautiful history lesson!

        Darwin also considered becoming a clergyman and was a tepid Christian for the first 40 years of his life. His father insisted he become a clergyman as a career move, even though Darwin had a problem reconciling his scientific discoveries with Christianity. If Darwin hadn’t had a good private income, he would have have been forced to enter the Church, as thousands of other gentleman’s sons with a good university education in fact did.

        We must distinguish sharply between mystical and devotional Christianity (good) and dogmatic Churchianity (bad).

      4. …above all, we should reprobate specific remedies for ravaging diseases.”

        Note that line. In other words, Malthus is adamantly AGAINST VACCINES! Because they allegedly to ward off diseases. And this is precisely what Malthus doesn’t want. Before Jenner invented the small pox vaccine, millions would die of small pox. And this would help to keep the population down.

        Malthus was obviously aware of Jenner’s discovery of the small pox vaccine and didn’t approve of it. Jenner’s discovery occurred in 1796, exactly two years before the publication of Malthus’s Essay on Population (1798). Malthus thought Jenner was interfering with Nature. And Darwin would have thought pretty much the same, that vaccines were preventing Natural Selection from bumping off the weak and unfit.

        A world in which the disabled are kept alive would have been anathema to Malthus as well as to strict Social Darwinists with their belief in “the Survival of the First.”

        These are sad facts, like it or lump it.

      5. Sis –
        “….Jenner’s discovery occurred in 1796…”
        Jenner’s discovery was cowpox vaccination. Inoculations for smallpox occurred much earlier.

        Ben Franklin gave his opinion on smallpox inoculation withheld from his son in 1736:
        http://qshc.bmj.com/content/16/6/478.extract

        Benjamin Franklin in his autobiography wrote:
        “In 1736 I lost one of my sons, a fine boy of four years old, by the smallpox taken in the COMMON WAY. I long regretted bitterly and still regret that I had not given it to him by INOCULATION. This I mention for the sake of the parents who omit that operation, on the supposition that they should never forgive themselves if a child died under it; my example showing that the regret may be the same either way, and that, therefore, the safer should be chosen.”

        Good facts:
        Making the right decision: Benjamin Franklin’s son dies of smallpox in 1736
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2653186/

        Francis Folger Franklin (October 20, 1732 – November 21, 1736)[a] was the eldest son of Founding Father of the United States Benjamin Franklin and Deborah Read.
        In 1736, four-year-old Francis contracted the smallpox virus and died shortly thereafter.
        Benjamin Franklin, who had been inoculated **EARLIER in his own life, had intended for his son to be inoculated as well. However, due to an illness affecting Francis at the time planned for his inoculation, the procedure was postponed.

        His death devastated both his parents, who doted upon Francis, and after this incident, Franklin became “the most eloquent advocate of smallpox inoculation.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Folger_Franklin

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