Election 2020: ‘How the Anomalies Are So Out of Bounds that the Results Are Not Believable’

Gateway Pundit via Truthseeker
November 21, 2020

WAS  THE  ELECTION  STOLEN?


INTRODUCTION  by  Rixon  Stewart, Editor of Truthseeker:

The mainstream media appears to be deliberately ignoring widespread allegations of “vote fraud”. Despite the fact that Biden’s “win” has yet to be certified in many districts.

Our so-called “free-press”, which should be investigating these claims, appears to be going out of its way to ignore them.

Even in Britain there seems to be a concerted media campaign to play-down or minimise accusations of vote rigging on Biden’s behalf. The following reports on a press conference where Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani presented evidence of “vote rigging”, amply illustrate this:

—  Sweaty Rudy Giuliani suffers hair malfunction in latest bizarre press conference (The Guardian).
—  Rudy Giuliani’s Face Was Oozing On Live TV, And Now We May Know Why (Huffington Post).
—  Rudy Giuliani: Hair dye streams down sweating Trump lawyer’s face in latest news conference embarrassment  (Sky News)

Instead of examining the evidence presented by Giuliani, these media outlets focused instead on incidental trivia. Probably in an effort to distract reader’s attention from the real substance of the news conference, they focused instead on the fact that Giuliani’s sweating was an “embarrassment”.

This is NOT NEWS. This is effectively disinformation. (Editor Rixon Stewart).

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By Jim Hoft – Gateway Pundit Nov 20, 2020

Guess  why  I’m  smiling!

Former US Attorney Joe DiGenova and his wife Victoria Toensing were on Newsmax with Grant Stintchfield this evening.  DiGenova addressed Big Media’s reaction to today’s historical event where he and the Trump Legal Team laid out the evidence of how the Democrats executed the most horrific crime in US history in stealing the 2020 Presidential election from President Trump.

The Democrats’ crimes in this year’s election far surpass their efforts to have President Trump removed as a result of the Mueller criminal investigation (Mueller and his team were criminals).  This is a horrible travesty.  The Democrats don’t care about the country, they care about power.  DiGenova shared about a FOX News reporter’s reaction to their presser and the strategy the Trump Legal team is working on to address the Democrat crimes:

Well, Kristin Fisher and the rest of the FOX team are fools and liars.   The news conference today provided ample evidence…  What you said is very important, Grant.  Statistical analysis.  We have statisticians and mathematicians going over the returns  that are now in and are available.  What they are doing is they are going to show that the anomalies are so out of bounds that the results are not believable.  And therefore that is evidence in and of itself.

The Trump team is on the path that makes the most sense.

They are addressing the voter fraud with a substantial amount of evidence and then identifying the many vote anomalies that prove Biden couldn’t have made it out of his basement let alone set the record for the most votes ever in a Presidential election.

We’ve daily reported on numerous instances of voter fraud and the statistical anomalies that DiGenova is referring to.  The ‘Drop and Roll’ is one of many items we noted that doesn’t make sense.

There is no way Joe Biden won the 2020 election.  Anyone with an open mind who cherishes justice and who looks at the evidence DiGenova is referring to knows it too.

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84 thoughts to “Election 2020: ‘How the Anomalies Are So Out of Bounds that the Results Are Not Believable’”

  1. Statistical analysis. We have statisticians and mathematicians going over the returns that are now in and are available. What they are doing is they are going to show that the anomalies are so out of bounds that the results are not believable. And therefore that is evidence in and of itself.

    Democrats are losing touch, big time, as Jews scramble out of the country suitcases full of jewelry and precious pawned articles, priceless artworks (goy art, will come back for Rothko+Chagall soon, promise) suddenly remembered to do aliyah, the well poisoning talent disappearing fast.
    How could they otherwise have forgotten the simple rule that Holohoax trumps stats any day, i.e., if 6 million dead Jews had voted for Biden he would be a legal and unchallenged POTUS-elect today.
    At least they could have recalled Pence’s fly to do some areal acrobatics on Giuliani’s head and make the presser meaningful …
    But they did honor the Golden Rule of Ad Hominem: to distract from the message, trash the messenger.
    Giuliani’s head is squirting sweat, Trump has small hands, he be Bad Man Orange—end of discussion.
    (and whoever wrote this is an antisemite)

  2. re “Even in Britain there seems to be a concerted media campaign to play-down or minimise accusations of vote rigging on Biden’s behalf. ”

    “ESPECIALLY in Britain there seems to be a concerted media campaign to play-down or minimise accusations of vote rigging on Biden’s behalf.” – FIXED!

    After all, what ELSE would one expect from The BBC Bamboozlement & Brainwashing Corporation?

  3. I have felt from the start that “Trump campaign legal team”, including Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, is nothing but a scam on the top of a scam, the real purpose of which is to let the steam out of the boiler in controlled fashion – an obvious damage control device.

    If “Sidney Powell” duck was a real thing, it wouldn’t make this absolutely idiotic claim that Dominion voting software was designed in Venezuela under Chavez, financed by Castro, and then sold to the USA.

    I have been waiting for the final accord of this comedy play, and here it comes:

    https://apnews.com/article/georgia-c74165d465cf28b5478a65bd267fde29

  4. You want a good plan to destroy whatever is left of the American standing as a (trustworthy) superpower, and a country beyond redemption?
    Give the next four years to Biden/Harris!
    Maybe that is what a fox would do, with a bit of an artificial fight on the way out?

    1. Donald Trump has formally begun the transition process to Joe Biden. Aussie news today: https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/donald-trump-begins-transition-process-for-joe-biden/news-story/9a20ecb998050ef18baff73591483220
      When looking who is to be chosen to Biden’s inner circle history repeats itself AGAIN and it is business as usual in USA and the reality of the puppet masters.
      https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-11-17/Kissinger-urges-Biden-to-restore-communication-with-China–Vu6lsq1Eyc/index.html – like in old times, Tony the Blair has much to say again. Why voting or elections? Nothing ever changes in the world of Mammon and blood sacrifices. When will Madame Clinton be included in Team America?

      1. Ok folks,
        But who really cares?
        Jabba the Hut got the land-side vote. Which life-raft did YOU vote for? 🤨 Trump’s or Bidens? They both sank in the Zio river current. 🤔🙏

    1. Ok folks,
      But who really cares?
      Jabba the Hut got the land-side vote. Which life-raft did YOU vote for? 🤨 Trump’s or Bidens? They both sank in the Zio river current. 🤔🙏

  5. Sidney Powell is a hero and is a SAMSON who is going to pull down the whole rotten corrupt structure that is the zionist election dominion fraud that has permeated the American election system.

  6. “The Democrats’ crimes in this year’s election far surpass their efforts to have President Trump removed as a result of the Mueller criminal investigation (Mueller and his team were criminals). This is a horrible travesty. The Democrats don’t care about the country, they care about power. DiGenova shared about a FOX News reporter’s reaction to their presser and the strategy the Trump Legal team is working on to address the Democrat crimes:”
    Yes Mueller and his team are criminals, they go a long way back with Comey to the Clintons and Bushes…
    The dems care about the country alright, in the sense that they want it gone and replaced with the Chinese NWO version of the globalist surveillance slave state, where there will be no cash money and no private property, no freedom of travel and definitely no freedom of speech,,, Second Amendment – forget about it…
    The Bidens and all the RINOs will cash in Big Time on the Disaster Reset…. It won’t be the end of capitalism, but it will be the end of you’re right to get rich…. All the squadsters will become the ruling elite, untouchable…
    REALIST
    “After all, what ELSE would one expect from The BBC Bamboozlement & Brainwashing Corporation?”
    Nothing other than the will of the Owners in the Vatican and the Managers at Westminster…
    The POPE OWNS, the QUEEN REIGNS and the PRESIDENT RULES…
    And he can stay as long as he plays ball…
    And Trump did play some ball, not enough though…
    And now it’s coming to a real impasse between all the Swamp Slugs in media and government, who are just in it for themselves, want to keep the parade going, and the Real Americans…. Fox News shows its real stripes now… Most of them go way back through the whole 9-11 plot… Yes I know, so does Giuliani…
    CIRCASSIAN
    We know you don’t want to believe it… And we do…
    But really, peace and cooperation between the USA and Russia, if that’s what you want, will have a better chance if democracy can be made to work in the USA… It was pretty obvious the way the deepstate media hacked on the Russia thing.. they’ll never let that problem go, not anymore than the Jews will let you forget Hitler…
    It’s not a big stretch between the software being designed in Venesuela by the Chavez people and it being designed in Venesuela by the CIA, which is who really designed it…
    The same people who designed google and facebook, and bitcoin…
    I’m sure some of Chavez’ People were CIA plants…

  7. There are just too many things gnawing at me about this whole situation.

    Why would the democrats go through all this trouble to steal the election (and risk being caught doing massive fraud) when they might have been able to get rid of Trump simply by adding Trump’s war crimes to the impeachment charges against him? And why did they not make an election issue out of Trump’s reckless nuclear brinkmanship? And why did they not make an election issue out of Trump’s reckless, self-destructive trade war with China? And why did the democrats run Biden against Trump in the first place (“the single worst candidate in the history of American presidential politics” according to Trump)?

    Washington insiders must realize that Trump is a psychotic psychopath, and they must realize that losing the election would to him be an unbearable narcissistic insult that would cause him to fly into a narcissistic rage.
    In light of this, is it possible that both democrats and republicans want him to attack Iran? Is it possible that they also want to (and if they attack Iran, will soon need to) put an end to the increasingly burdensome spectacle of “presidential elections”?

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/11/23/richard-cook-psychotic-trump-must-be-stopped-now/

      1. @ “Gilbert Huntly”

        And you once again reveal yourself as a mindless, butt-hurt jew troll, determined to drag this site down. (BTW the only way you could actually insult me, Shlomo, would be if I had your approval).

      2. Always mentioning “the site” to garner favor, dickwad. The site doesn’t need defending by scum like you.

      3. Always mentioning “the site” to garner favor, dickwad. The site doesn’t need defending by scum like you.

        I mention “the site” because your whole purpose here is obviously to degrade it with your infantile jew drivel, ad hominem attacks, etc., just like your fellow satanic tribesmen do at places like unz.com; and I believe that needs to be continually pointed out, that’s all.

        You’re no more a patriotic American or a White Nationalist than your evil messiah orange clown is; you’re just another boring jew troll. Being called “scum” by the likes of you is a great compliment. Thanks.

        1. @ Harold Smith, re (((Gilbert Huntly)))

          I have begun to suspect lately that there’s something not quite right about our patriotic American Farmer Boy, Gilbert Huntly, who claims he was a big buddy of Eustace Mullins and even hobnobs with the Kennedy family (!!!). One thing is certain though. He makes no effort to obey the Rules of this Website, deliberately using foul language and racist abuse in direct contravention of the said rules.

          He enters the house of Lasha Darkmoon as a guest and regularly spits in the soup and blows his snot all over the table cloth. In that sense, Gilbert Huntly most definitely undermines this website. If he’s not a Jew troll, he’s the next worst thing to it: a disreputable White Nationalist KKK racist redneck who is every bit as bad for this website as a toxic Jew troll.

          In contrast, Harold Smith is polite, well-informed, and writes remarkably good English. He abuses Gilbert Huntly robustly only if Huntly abuse him first. Which is always the case. The out-of-control Huntly has helped to deplete this site of some of its best commenters. I notice he has driven away Mahmoud El-Yousseph by his disgusting Islamophobic ad hominem abuse. Admin cannot be pleased to see one of the site’s frequent contributors driven away like this. Mahmoud has had several articles about Palestine published here and he has every reason to hate and despise Donald Trump for his disgusting ill-treatment of the Palestinians. There can be absolutely no excuse for that.

          @ ADMIN

          I say to Admin: if Mahmoud El-Yousseph ever returns to this site, crack down hard on this racist runt Gilbert Huntly and cut him off at the knees. Put him on permanent monitoring or ban him completely. He doesn’t deserve the hospitality of this website any longer. He has forfeited all his rights to be here.

          1. I too am aware that Gilbert Huntly has driven Mahmoud El-Yousseph away from this site by his racist abuse. Mahmoud has made that quite clear to us in his final comments before leaving. I deeply regret that Gilbert appears to be so lacking in good manners and self-control. We have made allowances for him only because of his serious health problems which have soured his personality. In fact, I feel a bit sorry for Gilbert. As one does when a once happy dog stops wagging his tail for good and begins snarling at everyone whose smell he doesn’t like.

    1. Ever noticed Harold, what has become of VT lately? Gordon Duff must have shifted the BS quote included in ALL VT articles from 40% to 90% and VT turns more and more into a soiled “clandestine” anti Republican tabloid rag and a kosher big pharma operative and vaccine pusher. IF something needs to stop it is BS and VT lately is full of it.

      1. @ Jo

        I have argued with Gordon Duff many times in the past. For example, a few months ago he was claiming that the Beirut port explosion was caused by a mini-nuke delivered by Israel. According to him, “pure” ammonium nitrate (i.e. without any added fuel or sensitizer) cannot explode.

        In an attempt to convince him that pure ammonium nitrate can explode under the proper circumstances, I cited peer reviewed papers, the historical record of catastrophic explosions involving pure ammonium nitrate, publications from the U.S. Bureau of Mines, etc.; to no avail.

        Anyway, although he writes a lot of things I disagree with, not everything he writes is nonsense. Sometimes he’s more right than he is wrong. (If a broken clock can be right once in a while so can Gordon Duff, IMO).

        That said, the article I linked to was apparently not written by Gordon Duff but by Richard Cook. I don’t know who Richard Cook is, but the piece is not unreasonable, IMO.

        Over the last few years, Trump has single-handedly trashed the framework of nuclear arms control, making the prospect of nuclear war much more likely than ever before, even by accident. This is the work of a madman, enabled by other madmen, and I cannot put ANYTHING past such madmen.

      2. Gordon Duff is in my opinion CIA and operates VT as a CIA psyop, he pushes the covid-19 scam and psyop, ie certificate of vaccination ID -19, which is the biggest fraud and psyop in the history of the world and he is relentless in pushing this psyop and lie.

        He is in my opinion a deep state psycopath.

      3. @ Harry

        I honestly don’t know how to take Gordon Duff. For example, he’s apparently what many people would deem a “gun nut” yet he seems to be politically left-leaning (an unusual combination, in my experience).

        When it comes to Covid-19, I think he’s correct in his view that SARS-CoV-2 was delivered to China by U.S. military personnel attending the military games in Wuhan. And I know this article was not a big hit with the “deep state.”

        In light of this I tend to see Gordon as more of a loose cannon than anything else.

    2. Harold,
      Donald sees this election as one HUGE episode of The Jerry Springer Show. A exercise in “wag the 🐕” shall we say to keep the goyims simple minds occupied while Billy-boy Gates and team proceed with their sinister plan to force toxic death vaccinations on the American people. Donaldo, a trucker, has been over-the-road all week but has noticed that THINGS are beginning to happen. Spainish-language news networks in USSA are talking about outbreaks of a new-generation/strain of Covid and the goyim sheeple have become really spooked as Gates team of hungry coyotes have jumped the fence and entered the pasture smelling blood. Donald was dispatched this week to deliver Kubota tractors to a customer in rural Tennessee. About 💯 miles from delivery, dispatch called and said to turn around and head back to Georgia. Why? Because the Kubota dealership in that small Tennessee town had suffered a Covid outbreak and would close for the week. Imagine the insanity! Twenty employees sent home 🏡 for the week because some sissy-boy started coughing. Oh well. Evidently the face-masks (face-diaphers) didn’t work. Never did. Donaldo never wears them. Back to topic. Donaldo, forever curious, has been probing the simple goy about their feelings regarding a forced vaccination…..AND….they don’t like the idea. Could be the inate fear of needles and the fact that people don’t like objects FORCED into their bodies without consent…….. especially women whom over the millenia have developed an acute instinct to protect their bodies from OBJECTS….no guess-work needed….from being inserted into their bodies against their will. But never-the-less sinister moron Gates and team with TONS of shekels but lacking common-sense will continue with plan despite what Donaldo sees as serious obstacles and what Gates Zio-squad needs in order to accomplish this task is a huge Jerry-Springer-style distraction. AND….the 2020 election is perfect. So let’s focus on who will be the next POTUS children. Will it be be child-sniffer Biden or psychopath Trump. Don’t think about the needle children. Gates and the Zio team of hungry coyotes have jumped the fence and entered the pasture where you graze. But have no fear. They LOVE you ❤️ and have the best of intentions. Let’s just focus on the election children. 🍷🌮🤔🤨😎

  8. DOES VOTING ESTABLISH the AUTHORITY OF THE STATE?

    If so, then if the state is caught cheating with the vote their authority is null and void.

    THE PHILOSOPHICAL FACT THAT NO HUMAN HAS ONE LICK OF AUTHORITY OVER ANOTHER IS IGNORED BY ALL. Voting (or belief that God annointed the King) is a charade to establish the authority of the state (or kingship) where non exists. The truth that all authority flows from a barrel of a gun (or armed men with swords) is ignored by all. The modern hierarchal pyramid of power is all make believe.

    NO ONE HAS ANY AUTHORITY WHATSOEVER UNLESS YOU FOOLISHLY GIVE IT TO THEM WHICH IS WHY THE WHOLE CHARADE OF VOTING IS SET UP TO FOOL US INTO ALLOWING CRIMINALS TO RULE OVER US!

    The United States elections are obviously designed to be tinkered with and stolen by the fact that electronic machines have been installed that can be hacked or programmed to change the vote to the desired outcome of the machine manufacturer or operator.

    Amerika, the greatest nation ever has designed the system of voting to be hacked. Now think about the joke of being unable to count votes, every single bank has to balance every account every single night to the penny. Banks count billions of daily transactions accurately, they use Diebold money machines, yet the Diebold voting machines can’t count integers, like 1 vote for Trump. Uh huh, sure.

    Like I’ve said a million times, Amerika is a bad nation where bad people do bad things. And now we have reached the logical conclusion of a nation being thrown into chaos. Amerika is a joke like a tinpot dictatorship or banana republic. The world laughs at the (military) beast (of Revelation) in horror. And this Trump egomaniac and Jew whore has his finger on the nuclear button. Gee, what could go wrong I ask?

    The arrogance has been caused by living in the land of the reserve currency and military empire. The United States of the Federal Reserve can buy unlimited bonds and thus fund the deficits forever unless of course the world decides to abandon the dollar as the reserve currency. With Bitcoin shooting up maybe the smart money is already jumping the ship (that ship is like the Titanic rearing up just before it slides into the murky depths of the dark winter of total despair).

    1. Bravo Yukon!
      Yep – “voting” is, at best, giving the sheep a choice of abattoir.

      Love that blog of yours 👍 (only complaint being the difficulty in posting a comment… unless I’ve been banned! 😂)

  9. 2-3 remarks on semi-related subjects:
    Gil: what you are observing is TDS, not a trivial and passing brain spasm. It is a Jew-induced malaise affecting the intersection of Protestantism and American mind (mind is different from brain, btw), a true pandemic as opposed to the false pandemic invented to enslave the ones already weakened and susceptible. Think Jonestown. Think the Order of the Solar Temple. All happy to commit suicide in firm belief that it actually open the doors to life.
    And thus with TDSers who see relief and light in exit from “Trump tunnel of darkness” into the light of Soros, Clinton, and multitude of Rothschild “agentur” to borrow a useful term from the Protocols. Of course, any wars and crimes that they will put into effect will be blamed retroactively on Trump—such is the way of Tikkun Olam, just like Jews justify every single atrocity committed now and in future on Holohoax, as in “we must murder Palestinians in self-defense before they pull another Holocaust because they were in league with Hitler”, every abomination in Middle East is blamed on 9/11. And so with Trump—provided Trump is dethroned as TDSers pray for.

    If Trump is gone, I fear for Russia.
    Putin is losing touch, previously steely resolve borne of cool calculation losing stability, fatal error made in mollycoddling Erdogan and now it is showing in Armenia, where again, he should have stamped out Pashynian right off the bat instead of letting him poison the well, another Ukraine-Donbas on hands.
    The Washington cabal will make full use of this they have the will, the means and resources to pull Erdogan back into their orbit and release the pent up ISIS-Al Qaeda into the Caucasus as well as western China, fires will be burning all over the Russia’s perimeter, Korean hostilities restarted, trouble in South China sea, Belarus, Iran provocations (asshole mullahs will regret not having supported Trump, just like Mahmoud), every dirty trick in the book used against Gaddafi, false promises, false flags—the globalist happy homecoming.
    They don’t need full scale war with Russia, just gradual bleeding and dismemberment. Hyenas kill prey by disemboweling and devouring it alive, tearing chunks off.
    Won’t be pretty.

    But … Trump is still very much alive and in fight, the hope of the world, not just MAGA.
    When I heard about Powell schism, it took me 1/2 hour of keen disappointment before analytical thinking kicked in. Obviously they had to do it.
    They are nearly out of time, the case before SCOTUS must be persuasive and airtight or else it will get tossed out, so they simply had to bifurcate the trial, Giuliani runs the “ground game” (his words), presenting evidence of whistleblowers, witnesses, statistical analyses showing impossibility on cosmic scale of a whole slew of anomalies, piles of ballots found in trash, cadavers voting, vote switching and so on.
    Powell focuses on cybercrime aspect and very importantly—foreign interference with possibility of state actors which makes it an act of war.
    And it is no longer in jurisdiction of corrupt DOJ/FBI but DOD, where Trump can call upon NSA and Special Ops forces that are under his direct command, bypassing the traitorous CIA.
    And if Giuliani fork is dragging out, Powell may be more effective by bringing in Venezuelan witness(es). I don’t buy the Chavez angle, just window-dressing because he is a designated “enemy”. But as Powell rightly noted, Venezuelans don’t have the kind of knowhow to put something like that together, it must have come from OUTSIDE.
    Guess which OUTSIDE.

    To all of you wishing for Trump’s demise: you could be giving yourself an enema with a 12-gauge, Jonestown-wise.
    But in any case, justice will be served.

    1. I voted for Trump. Unfortunately, it didn’t take him long after being inaugurated to demonstrate in front of the whole world that he’s a con man and a dangerous psychotic psychopath. He’s completely mentally and morally unfit for the office he holds and he needs to be prevented from doing any more damage, e.g. attacking Iran.

      I will be pleasantly surprised if it turns out that Trump is not God’s judgment on America, but whether he is or isn’t, he’s evil, and every Christian and every morally competent person has a duty to oppose such evil.

    2. I said it more than once and will say it again: in my book you are a good soul and an honest man, like Mahmoud.
      And also in my book, completely deluded Trump-wise, like Mahmoud—but it is neither my problem nor duty to deal with, beyond my competence at any rate.

      You want to be pleasantly surprised?
      Try this on for size: Trump – Iran ‘missile strike’ story designed to make Biden look “Presidential” and try your hardest to stifle your hatred for 20 minutes, sit through it and if so moved, come up with RATIONAL counter-arguments, if so, I would like to hear them.

      Imagine that you have to sell your story about Trump to some extraterrestrials who have almost no English fluency, using numbers mainly, how would you do it in comparison to other presidents, the most recent, the most relevant in a way of time series analysis: Obama, GW, Bill Clinton, GHW, Reagan, … all of whom were better than Trump according to you, much, much worse than Trump according to me (and even if the same, let’s stack the degrees of cooperation with elements of Deep State: CIA, FBI, DOJ, NSA, DOD, Fed, Treasury, Senate, House of Reps, judiciary, media, again you could devise a 2-dimensional matrix of cooperation indices on scale -10 to +10, say the rows corresponding to these elements, columns labeled by presidents, add up individual columns to get the cooperation score (Excel or similar spreadsheet makes the job easy).
      Can you do that? Can everyone try and present their conclusions accordingly?

      Do a similar task for violence exported around the world for a bunch of countries and ethnic groups, Afghans, Libyans, Palestinians, Ukrainians, Iranians, Syrians, Koreans, Iraqis, Somalis, Serbs, and so on, separate tables for deaths, civilizational destruction (infrastructure, heritage, migrants, forcible regime change).
      Similar for supranationals, i.e., globalist, i.e., Luciferian authorities, unelected yet all-powerful, NAFTA, NATO, TPP, UN-WHO, World Tribunal in The Hague, whatever else you can think of.

      THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN OBJECTIVELY SHOW TO (non-English, translator defunct) EXTRATERRESTRIAL INQUIRY REGARDING PRESIDENTIAL RESUMES.

      Not your opinion or mine, we’ve been on about this for more than 4 years, to no avail.
      Do this for your own sanity if nothing else. My best advice, if you disagree, tell me how, in what way and why.

      1. I said it more than once and will say it again: in my book you are a good soul and an honest man, like Mahmoud. And also in my book, completely deluded Trump-wise, like Mahmoud—but it is neither my problem nor duty to deal with, beyond my competence at any rate.

        First, thanks for the compliment. (I would like to return the compliment, but I honestly don’t know what to make of your continuing unqualified support for Trump. Three years ago I could at least understand if not agree with your 4D chess theory, but now that theory seems to have morphed into a lesser-of-the-evils theory. As you appear to be too intelligent to take the position you’ve taken, I have no choice but to wonder whether you actually hold your views in good faith). Second, being that the actions of the jew-controlled U.S. “government” will eventually affect everyone (negatively), wherever they happen to live on this planet (e.g. by way of nuclear war), in a sense the satanic U.S. “government” and its president are everyone’s problem. Third, for as much as you rant about “jew” this and “jew” that, your statements seem to imply a shocking unfamiliarity with the satanic overall agenda of the jewish collective. This being the case, it’s somewhat easier to see why you project – what I am forced to describe as delusions about Trump – onto everyone who disagrees with you on the matter.

        Try this on for size: Trump – Iran ‘missile strike’ story designed to make Biden look “Presidential” and try your hardest to stifle your hatred for 20 minutes, sit through it and if so moved, come up with RATIONAL counter-arguments, if so, I would like to hear them.

        Well I made it through about 11.5 minutes of it. I could hardly understand what Alexander Mercouris was saying and Alex Christoforou is obviously biased; he apparently wears the same rose-colored glasses that you do.

        So here is my “counter-argument”: When analyzing some act or statement by Trump or some Trump related event, real or imagined, the first thing that most Trump supporters do is ignore all the relevant context. For example, in making his absurd assertion that Trump has some kind of “grand vision” for some kind of “big peace deal” in the Mideast, Alex Christoforou simply ignores the past four years of Trump’s belligerent “foreign policy” especially his hybrid war against Iran; ignores Trump’s character; ignores the kind of people that Trump has chosen to surround himself with, e.g. Pompeo; ignores the fact that “let’s drop a nuke on Iran” Adelson is backing Trump; ignores the fact that Trump seems to worship the ground that Netanyahu walks on; etc. IOW in making this assertion, Christoforou basically pretends that Trump asking about options to attack Iran has occurred in a complete vacuum. Unfortunately it hasn’t, so I can’t take him seriously. I don’t know what it means, but under the circumstances we certainly can’t rule out a last minute attack on Iran by Trump and his handlers, IMO.

        Imagine that you have to sell your story about Trump to some extraterrestrials who have almost no English fluency, using numbers mainly, how would you do it in comparison to other presidents, the most recent, the most relevant in a way of time series analysis: Obama, GW, Bill Clinton, GHW, Reagan, … all of whom were better than Trump according to you, much, much worse than Trump according to me…

        I believe I’ve made the following argument before but maybe you didn’t see it so I’ll say it again.

        As Obama’s second term was drawing to a close, it was clear to me (and many others apparently e.g. Paul Craig Roberts) that unless U.S. “foreign policy” changed course, the U.S. was headed for a military clash with Russia and China, a clash that could easily become a nuclear war.

        It was on Obama’s watch that SLBM fuzing was upgraded, and it was on Obama’s watch that the “European Phased Adaptive Approach” (EPAA) missile defense system was initiated.

        I don’t blame Trump for this, I blame Obama. What I do blame Trump for is the failure to stop the madness. Not only did Trump fail to stop the madness, he facilitated it by withdrawing from the INF treaty and the Open Skies treaty and by letting the New START treaty expire.

        It was clear from statements made by various Russian spokesmen including Vladimir Putin himself, that Russia saw the Aegis Ashore system deployments in Romania and Poland as a dangerously destabilizing violation of the INF treaty whose only practical purpose would be to facilitate a successful nuclear first strike against Russia; particularly so after the deployment of the new SM-3 block IIa missiles in Poland.

        So in March 2018 Vladimir Putin unveiled new Russian weapon systems nearing deployment that would undermine the ability of the U.S. “government” to carry out a first strike against Russia (without being destroyed in a retaliatory attack).

        This should’ve been Trump’s cue to end the madness. This was the perfect opportunity for Trump to sit down and start negotiating in good faith the issue of intermediate range missiles in Europe, and to negotiate a comprehensive treaty to replace the soon-to-expire New START treaty. But no; instead of doing the only reasonable and proper thing, Trump doubled down on a hopeless and very dangerous cause: the achievement of nuclear primacy and adoption of the winnable nuclear war concept.

        As far as I’m concerned, Trump’s nuclear brinkmanship is the only thing a reasonable person needs to see to understand what Trump is all about: pure satanic “deep state” madness. He was the president at the right time to really do something good for America but instead he betrayed us all.

    3. @Lobro

      If Trump is gone, I fear for Russia.

      You don’t have to. If Russia’s strategy in her resolute drive to escape from the totally bankrupt Anglo-American system was POTUS-dependent, it would be worthless. As a mathematical physicist, I would say: Putin’s strategy is POTUS-invariant.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naytesYv3E8

      I like that precious look on Putin’s face when he quips: I would like to tell those who are still waiting for Russia’s strength to gradually wane, the only thing we are worried about is catching a cold at your funeral.

      Putin is losing touch, previously steely resolve borne of cool calculation losing stability, fatal error made in mollycoddling Erdogan and now it is showing in Armenia, where again, he should have stamped out Pashynian right off the bat instead of letting him poison the well, another Ukraine-Donbas on hands.

      I find this hilariously funny, especially coming from someone who, obviously, believes that his touch with reality is more robust than that of the leader of a nation, which was at one of lowest points of its one-and-a-half thousand year history when he took the reign 20 years ago, and brought it back to a position on the world stage where this nation is considered as an existential threat – and rightly so – to the only superpower left in the world today.

      …fires will be burning all over the Russia’s perimeter

      Bring it on – that’s exactly what I hope for: Tricky-dick Trump’s soothing sweet speeches, while fostering one color revolution after another “all over the Russia’s perimeter” for the last 4 years, did more damage to the security of our nation than Sleepy Joe’s frontal attack could ever do.

      The best “gift” Russia can ever get from her enemies is an open attack for it will end up, invariably, in a speedy break of the aggressor’s neck… as it happened so many times in the history of our nation.

      1. Why get exercised, Circ? I proposed a mini-theory about Putin’s CURRENT status, not admiring the laurels he rightly earned 30 years ago and hung onto like a champ ever since—but lately he’s been acting kind of lame and uninspired, maybe fatigues after such a brutal schedule kept up over 3 decades.
        What’s wrong with my observation?
        Well, let’s see:
        I expected a calm and well-thought out answer but seems that you got a bit pissed there, right?
        Stuff about Russia’s glorious fighting history is neither here nor there because we are talking about a tight interval centered on this instant, i.e., near past and near future, say a year or two either way.
        Meanwhile you enjoy needling the pro-Trump element of the forum at every opportunity, pointing out Trump’s putative filings and weaknesses of character, seemingly enjoying the buzz of hurt and anger provoked.
        Why can’t you take it like a champ, only dish it out?
        Besides, my observation was quite valid and many Russians seem to see the same faltering missteps as evident at the last Valdai conference where people confronted him openly about Erdogan, if I remember rightly.
        And I said very clearly, that if you think seeing Trump fall is entertaining, expect the real beast to play the game in earnest: there will be none of your hoped-for gift of an open attack, read my post again.
        She will be dismembered at Jew’s ease, never knowing where the next lunge is coming from, Belarus, Moldova, Crimea, Dagestan, Turkmenistan, Georgia, Japan to mention just the immediate periphery—what about elsewhere, loss of Syria, Venezuela, Philippines, huge empowerment of ISIS with the updated modern and logistics—Russia is great for highly focused tasks, surgical action but not for prolonged conflict simmering all over the place, they are not an empire nor do they have adequate resources, Jew will bleed them drop by drop never giving them pause to catch breath.

        Forget about sleepy Joe, if you think Trump is your problem but not the Jews pulling Joe’s strings, you got an education on the way—I am the wrong messenger to get mad at😉.

        PS: wither Belt+Link Initiative? Haven’t heard much talk of that, Covid put paid to that—whether it is permanent or temporary halt,
        DEPENDS ON TRUMP
        and Sino-Rus axis will fall apart quickly without it rolling forward, all the smaller member countries easy pickings for the judeo-global cabal.
        So whatever you religion, pray for his reinstatement in January, pray for Mom Russia because they serve the same ideal.

    1. Thanks again Prem (the Greek Alexes are my favorite channel, bright, informed, motivated, civil)

      Like I said, I am starting to really like this tough little guinea (“WOP” in Canada), not the most presentable but a real badger and a huge Trump loyalist.
      Listen carefully not just to what he says but what his words frame, when he mentions a certain “evil in our land” and the 3-fold enemy:
      Democrats, the Three Big Techs (Google, Facebook, Twitter) and the media.
      Well, color me out-to-lunch; →WHO← could he be referring to?

      Note that this channel is run by Fr Frank Pavone.
      Why is this possibly quite significant? Not because I am a Catholic.
      But because from its inception, USA has been presided over by Protestant, Jew-sold figureheads, JFK excepted-and-eliminated, a mistake never repeated.
      But how is it that Trump, though nominally a Protestant (Episcopalian?) has from start onward closely sided with Catholics?
      All 3 SCOTUS nominees were Catholic, more than ever in history.
      And how is it that grass-root Catholics trust him so completely and intuitively that immediately after Jan 21, 2016 a national Catholic association petitioned him to investigate the scandalous overthrow of Benedict xvii by Obama State, Hillary Clinton, CIA, Soros and Rothschild in favor of servant of Antichrist Bergoglio, using among other tools of the trade, SWIFT (take note, Ma’am, might learn something that should set you aflutter anxiously, though not suicidally😱, I trust)

      Lie is told in sweeping brush strokes, choral gusts of oohs and aahs to deflect attention from little brush strokes, small details impossible to control, rearrange or obscure entirely, maybe not even spotted, where contradictions and therefore the TRUTH is hidden from view.

      Like this thing about Catholics—highly significant I say, forget the racket of the loudspeakers.

    2. Moreover (this word is the mortal enemy of “never” or “it’s over”),
      as you listen to Trump or Giuliani talking, you may be struck by their invoking God as the ultimate arbiter, it doesn’t happen once but as part of regular punctuation.
      Why does it matter, why isn’t it just cheap grandstanding to goose the emotional metabolism of lay listeners e.g., jury?
      Because it asserts in no uncertain terms that there is an authority above Jew and Jew’s law, the law of scribes, Pharisees and hypocrites, higher even than USHHM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum), something which shloks many people when they first hear it, so that even The Tales of The Holocaust are superseded by God.
      Since there is no direct assault route against God, like an invasive army of desert savages laying siege to a fortified city, they resort to long term tactics, their sappers (also known as psychologists, propagandists, impresarios, managers, pornographers and such according to specialty) dig tunnels under the foundation in order to undermine the walls, all the while lobbing decaying objects of plague over the battlements, poisoning water supply until Materialism and Atheism prevail, God is dead and mummified in some lost and forgotten catacombs.
      This is what clearly laid waste to Amerika and the godless west, water from the poisoned well of $-worshiping Protestantism, disease eventually spreading to 99.99% of population regardless of erstwhile profession of faith.
      Which is why the remaining nations and states providing resistance to all-conquering Jew are the ones with entrenched spirit of God and often a living monarchy—Thailand, under daily bombardment by Soros goblins, Antifa superficially masked by yellow warpaint.

      When did you ever hear Obama or the Clintons or anyone in their hordes of the night invoke God?
      ADL/SLPC shocktroops would have been battering down your door instantly to haul you away.
      And they will if Trump falls,
      One Ring To Rule Them All And IN THE DARKNESS BIND THEM.
      (Tolkien knew what he was talking about, of that I have no doubt)

  10. “… the (voting) Anomalies Are So Out of Bounds that the Results Are Not Believable’”

    Try telling THAT to some of the numerically-challenged nitwits on Darkmoon! 😂😂😂

  11. Profits are made by the fraudulent market swings. Obama did his part creating lows. Trump was inserted to create highs. Biden will be inserted to create lows again. Pharisee bankers WIN! 😡

  12. Breaking News: America testing Russia’s resolve.

    https://expert.ru/2020/11/24/korabl-admiral-vinogradov-prigrozil-esmintsu-vms-ssha-taranom-iz-za-narusheniya-gosgranitsyi-rf/

    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported that the Russian anti-submarine ship “Admiral Vinogradov” in the Gulf of Peter the Great stopped the violation of the state border of the Russian Federation by the American destroyer “John McCain”, threatening the violator with a ram.

    “On November 24 at 06:17 Moscow time, the destroyer John McCain, which had been in the Sea of Japan for several days, violated the territorial waters of the Russian Federation in the Peter the Great Gulf,“ having gone 2 km beyond the maritime border,” the military department said.

    In response to these actions, the large anti-submarine ship of the Pacific Fleet “Admiral Vinogradov” conveyed to the American ship via the international communication channel about the inadmissibility of such actions and the possibility of using “a ramming maneuver in response to them to force the intruder out of the territorial waters.” After the “Admiral Vinogradov” changed course for the destroyer “John McCain”, the latter immediately went into neutral waters, the ministry said.

  13. With Trump gone… expect more fake COVID-19. SO GET YOUR DAMNED VACCINE!!
    https://youtu.be/4Si–hmWK2A?t=15

    Because “flu-like” symptoms could also be attributed to COVID-19, and they have the now widely known ineffective COVID PCR test to back up these claims, which also kicks in federal funding for hospitals to treat COVID patients.

    As one might expect, with the media widely reporting that cases of COVID are now increasing just as flu season starts, reports of flu cases have dropped dramatically during the same time period last year. Across the globe, it has been reported that incidents of influenza have dropped by about 100%!!
    https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/78444/unprecedented-move-the-cdc-stops-tracking-influenza-for-202021-flu.html

  14. I was wondering all this time where the hell is Donald Trump while his “legal team” is working its ass off proving something, which does not require any proof for God’s sake – the theft was perpetrated in broad daylight in front of everybody’s eyes !

    Oh, here is the fighter in chief:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZg2Kxllv9k

    That’s a shame! This doesn’t look good for Trump enthusiasts.

    Naïve, hopelessly naïve people!

  15. Donaldo Colina
    November 24, 2020 at 2:43 am
    Ok folks,
    But who really cares?
    Jabba the Hut got the land-side vote. Which life-raft did YOU vote for? 🤨 Trump’s or Bidens? They both sank in the Zio river current. 🤔
    so we should give up because the jews own us one way or the other, right?
    tell us how you really feel ‘good buddy’…
    SAKI
    I don’t know who MEY was but I think he would have a tough time showing his face around here after the bidens get in office and re-start the obama bombing in africa and the middle east, after he hyped them so much… trump was a much safer bet on no more of that… I don’t get why some if us keep pushing the idea that Trump is some kind of dangerous atomic bomb lunatic… he’s had 4 years to continue those violent policies, the same way obama continued the bush cheney version of foreign policy… TDS, I guess…

    1. Bark,
      Ok. You’re right. But just think about it. The alternative media is like a punching-bag for a frustrated individual. It hangs there and the disgruntled person hammers away with his fists until exhausted and then retires to the locker room. But the punching bag is still hanging. Nothing accomplished at the end of the day. Donaldo suggests ACTION…..not violence….but intelligent action. The legal system comes to mind. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation could, for example, be sued for fraud and criminal negligence. Look it up on line Bark. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has already been sh*t-listed by several foreign govs for giving toxic vaccines to hundreds-of-thousands of their citizens resulting in numerous deaths, paralyzes, infertility, etc. In the USSA and Israel the same legal action could be taken against this criminal cartel. And it ain’t just the Gates. It could include Soros, Adelson and all of the other Attilas of the World causing mayhem and distruction. Donaldo advocates legal action against (not Jews per say) but against ALL enemies of humanity including goyim such as the Clinton dynasty. The people should unite and exercise their LEGAL rights. But they probably won’t. Why? Because of a system of education….cough cough totally controlled by Zios where children are taught WHAT to think not HOW to think. Example. Donaldo just recently got into a heated exchange with his 24-year-old Mexican granddaughter living in Georgia, USSA who knows EVERYTHING. It was a rainy Saturday. She had just gone out and cast her vote for child-sniffer Biden. Apon returning she expressed her pride as a voter. Donaldo, sitting in the kitchen and drinking wine, asked her, “Why did you vote for Biden?” She replied, “Because he’s about UNITY.” Donaldo then attempted to show her Videos of Biden fondling little girls. She refused to watch. Such is the success of the brain-washing of the Zio system of education. Anyway. Back to point. The destiny of humanity is not about $$$$$$ but ideas which are sadly controlled by Zios…..so far. Wil it change? Who knows? But Bark….hope Donaldo answered your question. 🍷🌮🙏

  16. i posted this yesterday, it didn’t appear…
    i saved it just in case, because it happens sometimes…
    probably something to do with my uselessnet connection…
    sorry if it shows up twice…

    LOBRO
    “(mind is different from brain, btw),
    That’s right, and the brain is in the head but the mind is not in the head, not exclusively anyway…
    https://www.bing.com/search?FORM=INCOH1
    “Powell focuses on cybercrime aspect and very importantly—foreign interference with possibility of state actors which makes it an act of war.”
    Yes it is, and those who cooperate, thousands of co-conspirators and cohorts, are all complicit in treason…
    That’s everybody who cheated on the ballot mailing, delivery and vote counting, all the public officials who acted outside the legal framework, changed the rules unlawfully, every lower court judge who rejected the suit out of prejudice and every governor and mayor who declare sanctuary states and cities….
    those people all need to be arrested…
    chuck shumer’s idea of “change america” goes way over the edge…
    totally decriminalizing, that is – refusing to enforce and prosecute illegal immigration, at a certain point adds up to more than just a serious national security issue… it eventually becomes an act of war, overt declarations of intent and violence aren’t necessary, if it is intended and will amount to the destruction of the constitutional republic… that’s what biden, shumer and creeps like newsom have in mind…
    the health ranger is right-on in his assessment of the problem and his idea of the solution…
    massive arrests carried out in one day, with military officials appointed in control of states, cities and counties are in order in all the treasonous states, like pennsylvania, georgia, michigan and california…
    those should stay in effect until after the election has been thoroughly investigated, its procedural defects revealed and a foolproof new vote counting method arrived at and instituted…
    when our borders have been secured, all the illegals swept out and real democracy has been restored, then we can go back to having elections… those will be real elections…
    whether or not trump has that in him or not remains to be seen…
    we’re watching fox news jump ship now, they’re trying to spin it away from the venesuelan thing… because sidney powell’s investigation will reveal way too much rot, gross corruption and treason at the highest levels… the theft of the election is only part of it… the lawyer from georgia is promising to shock the country’s very core over the pedophilia and worse going on for decades inside the big beltway cesspool… while the fact is, about half of us already know it, the shock won’t really come until it’s heralded on prime time… the corporate media owners can’t have that any more than they can tell the whole truth about 9-11… sidney has gone too far… she won’t stop though… the supreme court should get the whole story…
    the question is – what will trump do?
    we know what jfk or general patton would do…

    1. @ Circassian

      As a man of the highest integrity, Lobro will surely pay you whatever he owes you once it becomes clear to him that he has lost his bet. How much does he owe you: $500 or $1000?

      I have been unable to follow all the twists and turns of this complex affair. I gather Lobro believes he has won his bet because Trump was the “real winner” who was unfairly cheated out of his victory.

      What if he says YOU lost the bet and owe HIM $500-1000?!? Are you prepared to pay up like a man? 🙂

    2. Circassian,
      I did accept your bet and asked you to pick the number N in [$500,$1000] rnge that suits you if you felt like going forward.
      I will honor it if I lose but show me where you agreed to go forward.
      Not nice if you come after the outcome is certified and Biden assumes office on Jan 21 and demand your money.
      Again: do you want it to go forward—and for how much or not?
      Your choice but speak up now.

      1. Done deal, $500 it is then.
        There is some difficulty lining up communication because when I post something often it takes half a day or more before I see it in the thread plus I am also half a day ahead of Eurozone timewise.
        By the time I can see your reply, it may have sunk way down the commentary stack and is no longer visible.
        Anyway, we got it straight, let’s see for whom the inauguration tolls.

        que maravilla—as soon as I posted this one, it popped right back, ready for edit—no idea what is the glitch, maybe something to do with wordcount.

      2. @Lobro

        Done deal, $500 it is then.

        Good. Now, when the deal is sealed with clarity required by an honest deal, I would like to say something that I would probably not say otherwise: you have just made a deal that you cannot lose. What I mean by that is this: even if you lose it monetarily – which is by no means a certainty, btw – you’ll gain something that is way more precious than $500.

        And that something begins right now. You have mentioned Dostoevsky a few times in your comments, so I presume that you have actually read some of his novels. But it is unlikely that you have close familiarity with the writings of Mikhail Lermontov – in particular, his novel A Hero of our Time – notwithstanding he is held in Russia as a poet second to Alexander Pushkin only. Personally, I rate Mikhail Lermontov – both as a poet and as a novelist – second to none.

        In the light of the bet we have just sealed, I cannot think of a better way of introducing you to the fascinating world of Mikhail Lermontov than to recommend starting your journey from here:

        https://kittylevin.livejournal.com/29535.html

  17. Gosh, not so long ago Democrats (among everyone else) wouldn’t pee on the (cia) if they were on fire and the good old FIB was still at least moderately disguised as a FBI.
    Now they’re all kiss, kiss, smooch, smooch, bosom buddies. (Trump is a naaazi) Exhibit # 17a and maybe even b.

    1. Roger that PREMANIDHI

      Jordan Sekulow commented on same and said “it’s going to knock American’s socks off”.

  18. Q: What is the tragedy of the American nation… if it can be called a nation in the true meaning of that word to begin with?

    A: It is, in my opinion, in the fact that its political system was laid out some 300 years ago in such a way as to exclude the very possibility for a leader of a nation to arise.

    This is not a democracy, this is an ‘oligarchopoly’ – the very opposite of democracy. American Stalin, American Castro, American Chavez, American Putin has no place in it by its very design.

    This is what Harold and Lobro cannot wrap their heads around. Thus the endless and meaningless bickering about whether Trump = – ∞ or Trump = +∞. Trump is neither, Trump is zero.

    1. @ Circassian

      This is not a democracy, this is an ‘oligarchopoly’ – the very opposite of democracy. American Stalin, American Castro, American Chavez, American Putin has no place in it by its very design.

      This is what Harold and Lobro cannot wrap their heads around.

      Huh?

      Thus the endless and meaningless bickering about whether Trump = – ∞ or Trump = +∞. Trump is neither, Trump is zero.

      Please explain what you mean by this.

      1. ALL major governments are OLIGARCHIES!! “Ruled by a few”…. even when there is one lone person sharing a land, an island, with no one. One is very few. 🙂

        1. Well said, Pat! The only true democracy is the island inhabited by one lone man — Robinson Crusoe!

          No stolen elections on Crusoe’s Island! No territorial wars or land grabbing! No wife either … to complicate matters by introducing feminism!

          Then along came Man Friday and the trouble started . . . 🙂

      2. @ Circassian

        Perhaps, it wasn’t a good idea to resort to mathematical symbolism here. Anyhow, when I used it for the first time, I have explained what I meant by the shortcuts:

        I’m still not sure exactly what you mean but in your other comment you said:

        The great irony of Harold’s passionate desire for Trump to get the boot is threefold:
        (1) He will get his wish fulfilled;
        (2) The next occupant of the White House is likely to oversee (not start, but oversee!) a major confrontation between USA and Russia get started;
        (3) and Lobro will get the opportunity to tell Harold “I told you so”… even though it would be absolutely meaningless.

        You apparently misunderstand me. It’s not that I have a “passionate desire for Trump to get the boot.” I see the political ascendancy of Trump (or someone like him) as inevitable. The rise of Trump or someone like him is predicted in the Bible, and it has also been predicted (IMO) by several people including H.L. Mencken and Stephen King to name a few.

        The way the universe seems to work, there’s no way to avoid “Trump.” Where we have (or had) a chance to stop the evil (and the resulting destruction) is by refusing to support such a satanic demagogue.

        (BTW I don’t know if Trump will start WW3 in the short time he has left in his term but it’s a possibility, IMO. If he doesn’t directly start WW3 soon, he may already have set things in motion, e.g. his nuclear arms race, that will result in WW3 – possibly even by “accident” – if his successor fails to reverse it.

        Then you said:

        I hold that Lobro’s take on Trump is as naïve, if not more so, as Harold’s. To put it in crude mathematical terms:
        (1) Harold is all but convinced that Trump = –∞ (an absolute evil);
        (2) Lobro believes that Trump = +∞ (a savior of some kind);
        (3) When, in fact, Trump ≈ 0 (an actor hired to play a certain role on the stage of a theater called «Western democracy»).

        I’m “naive”?

        Of course they’re all “actors” but not all actors are interchangeable. IOW you likely couldn’t substitute “Mister (Fred) Rogers” for Clint Eastwood in a “Dirty Harry” movie and expect to create the same effect, right? Likewise you can’t substitute someone who, as evil as he may be, nevertheless doesn’t want to risk bringing nuclear warheads down on himself, his family and his country – with a psychotic psychopath so empty and so detached from reality that he would do it (or could be manipulated into doing it). As the office of president has by now accumulated so much illegitimate, unaccountable power – especially when it comes to the realm of “foreign policy” and making war – the character of the man holding the office would seem to be more important than ever, especially now that nuclear weapons exist.

        So I would say that your inability or unwillingness to appreciate the importance of the character of the front man (president) reflects poorly on you, not on me.

        As far as “evil” is concerned, I seem to recall from an earlier discussion, that you don’t believe in the existence of a spiritual realm, nor do you believe in the concept of spiritual forces of “good” or “evil” right? Thus it seems that any discussion regarding such subject matter would be pointless.

      3. @Harold Smith

        The rise of Trump or someone like him is predicted in the Bible, and it has also been predicted (IMO) by several people including H.L. Mencken and Stephen King to name a few.

        It won’t surprise me at all if you find the rise of Harold Smith “or someone like him is predicted in the Bible”, who is fighting his ass off the “evil” Trump who is predicted in the same Bible.

        Harold, I am sorry brother, but if something has been predicted in your opinion by someone, it is not a prediction it is an interpretation.

      4. @ Circassian

        Harold, I am sorry brother, but if something has been predicted in your opinion by someone, it is not a prediction it is an interpretation.

        Well people make predictions based on observation and reasoning all the time. If someone is familiar enough with the subject matter and smart enough to do some reasoning, they can make a prediction.

        For example, based on observation and reasoning Paul Dirac predicted the existence of antimatter (or at least, the antiparticles which comprise antimatter). Likewise, if you stop at the bar every day on your way home from work and get drunk, and then you drive home in that condition, I would predict that one day you’re going to be involved in an accident.

        So I believe that someone familiar enough with history, human nature and in this case, the jewish-supremacist agenda, can also make predictions.

      5. @Harold Smith

        Well people make predictions based on observation and reasoning all the time. If someone is familiar enough with the subject matter and smart enough to do some reasoning, they can make a prediction.

        There is no doubt about that. What is more, one doesn’t have to be familiar with the subject matter at all or be smart enough to do some reasoning to make a prediction. Anyone can do a prediction, and, in fact, everyone does predictions based on observation and reasoning all the time.

        Prediction, as I understand it, is a supposition – usually about a future event – which is clear and unambiguous enough that it can be subjected to verification as true or false. That’s all.

        A supposition that is so vague that it cannot be subjected to verification as true or false is not a prediction – it is a blabbering that can be interpreted in many different, even opposing ways.

        I am of the opinion that “predictions” in the Bible are not predictions in the true meaning of that word because they are subject to interpretation.

        To give an example of real prediction, I predict that Trump will not be inaugurated in Jan 2021. That’s a prediction – it doesn’t require someone’s interpretation to determine if it is true or not, it’s clear and unambiguous enough to stand or fall on its own.

        That was my point.

      6. @ Circassian

        Well predictions can be vague or they can be detailed; it depends on the context.

        I am of the opinion that “predictions” in the Bible are not predictions in the true meaning of that word because they are subject to interpretation.

        Yes, Biblical prophecy is open to interpretation – i.e. it has to be decoded – but that doesn’t mean that it’s not a valid and useful prediction of the future, IMO. Apparently it wasn’t intended that any Joe Shmoe living in any arbitrary period in time would be able to just take a quick glance at it and acquire a deep understanding, perhaps because if it was that obvious, the evil rulers of this world would’ve banned it as “hate speech” or something like that.

      7. @Harold Smith

        If you don’t mind me asking: To which category does Harold Smith belong – to the decoders or to the Joe Shmoes? I for one could never make any sense of the gibberish I saw in those copies of the Bible I have frequently encountered in the hotel rooms while in the USA.

        The problem I see with your reasoning is this. Since – according to your classification – I am a Joe Shmoe, I have to rely on the enlightened decoders to understand the prophecy. But at close inspection, the decoder may turn out to be full of shit, and I am left with a big question: Should I rely on something that this bastard tells me… instead of relying on my own judgment, which is based on my own experience plus the experience of my people and my nation compressed and expressed in the culture to which I was born and raised?

      8. @ Circassian

        The problem I see with your reasoning is this. Since – according to your classification – I am a Joe Shmoe, I have to rely on the enlightened decoders to understand the prophecy. But at close inspection, the decoder may turn out to be full of shit, and I am left with a big question: Should I rely on something that this bastard tells me…

        The best way to answer this is with some other questions.

        Can any Joe Schmoe pick up a book on differential equations, for example, casually flip through the pages for an hour or so and in so doing acquire a deep understanding of the subject? Probably not, because before a person can understand differential equations, he would need to understand calculus; and before he could understand calculus he would need to understand algebra; and before he could understand any of it, he would have to have a desire to understand it; IOW he would have to be motivated to seek this knowledge, right?

        As a student in college I was generally able to tell when I had an instructor that knew his stuff and wanted to help us learn. I had professors who went through the motions of teaching and collected a paycheck and I had other instructors who were really into what they were doing and who would go the extra mile.

        Anyway, suppose you or a family member become seriously ill; what do you do? If you’re like most people, you seek treatment from a health professional. But how do you know the bastard isn’t “full of shit?

        If you’re not dumb as rocks and you’re not intellectually lazy, you can subsequently look up what the doctor said, learn about the tests he ordered, research the drugs he prescribed, etc., and see if it makes sense. Eventually you’ll know if “the bastard” is “full of shit.”

        “…instead of relying on my own judgment, which is based on my own experience plus the experience of my people and my nation compressed and expressed in the culture to which I was born and raised?</blockquote?

        Does human nature vary between cultures? Do people ever do evil in your culture? Do they ever tell lies? Do they know right from wrong? Is there any culture that wouldn't understand the meaning of Matthew 22:36-40 for example?

        Anyway, just like the example of learning calculus before trying to solve differential equations, before you could understand and appreciate Rev 13 you would have to understand and appreciate other parts of the Bible, e.g. Genesis 3.

      9. @Harold Smith

        I couldn’t help but notice that you have ignored my question: To which category does Harold Smith belong – to the decoders or to the Joe Shmoes? But that’s ok.

        The best way to answer this is with some other questions.

        No, I don’t think so. What you have done with your “best way” is called подмена понятий in Russian. The Google translator gives for it: substitution of concepts. English is not my native tongue, so I am not quite sure if this translation conveys the meaning of it adequately. I would rather translate it as juggling with the notions which seems to have the connotations of trickery and dishonesty which is exactly what implied in the original.

        The difference between mathematics and the Bible is precisely the one I have already explained (well, I have tried to explain to be precise) in my earlier comment about the notion of prediction: mathematics is not subject to interpretation – the Bible is.

        I trust the teacher of the mathematics not because he is a learned interpreter of mathematics but because he shows me how I can verify its validity beyond reasonable doubt on my own using my own judgment and my own reasoning. And I couldn’t care less if this teacher is full of shit in other respects as long as he can show me how I can do it myself instead of blindly relying on his blank pronouncements.

        Not so with the Bible. The preacher does not teach me the Bible in a way that I can verify what he is telling me on my own. Worse than that – it is simply impossible.

        In my opinion, if the Bible – in some loose sense – can be called a science, then it is a science of manipulation of Joe Shmoes by those who – for some reason – think that they are better, smarter, or more deserving than Joe Shmoes.

        In this regard, the Bible is no exception from all other “holy scriptures”.

        Now, lest be misunderstood, I have to say that I don’t believe that what we call science is omnipotent – far from it. I do not deny the spiritual realm either, but the Bible, in my opinion, has little to do with it. I do not need the Bible translated into my native tongue and rammed down my throat by “the decoders” in order to be a decent human being.

      10. @ Circassian

        I couldn’t help but notice that you have ignored my question: To which category does Harold Smith belong – to the decoders or to the Joe Shmoes? But that’s ok.

        To the extent that question is relevant, what kind of answer – beyond what I already said – do you expect? All I can say is that I can usually defend my views with a cogent argument.

        The best way to answer this is with some other questions.

        No, I don’t think so.

        I think so.

        What you have done with your “best way” is called подмена понятий in Russian. The Google translator gives for it: substitution of concepts. English is not my native tongue, so I am not quite sure if this translation conveys the meaning of it adequately. I would rather translate it as juggling with the notions which seems to have the connotations of trickery and dishonesty which is exactly what implied in the original.

        LOL! It was merely an analogy. I use analogy all the time to explain something.

        The difference between mathematics and the Bible is precisely the one I have already explained (well, I have tried to explain to be precise) in my earlier comment about the notion of prediction: mathematics is not subject to interpretation – the Bible is.

        You’ve misconstrued my statement. I used mathematics merely as an example. You generally can’t take a person who has no foundation in the basics (in any field of study whether it’s mathematics, the natural sciences, the Bible or whatever) and expect them to dive right in and master advanced concepts, right?

        I trust the teacher of the mathematics not because he is a learned interpreter of mathematics but because he shows me how I can verify its validity beyond reasonable doubt on my own using my own judgment and my own reasoning. And I couldn’t care less if this teacher is full of shit in other respects as long as he can show me how I can do it myself instead of blindly relying on his blank pronouncements.

        You’re hung up on “mathematics.” Anyway, perhaps in my haste I wasn’t clear enough but in broaching the subject of college professors I was addressing your phrase “enlightened decoders”; I was speaking of college professors in general, in my experience. Some of them were not very good “enlightened decoders” and some of them were, IMO, but after a while I could tell the difference. But that’s going off on a tangent.

        Not so with the Bible. The preacher does not teach me the Bible in a way that I can verify what he is telling me on my own. Worse than that – it is simply impossible.

        A good teacher is invaluable but if you’re reasonably intelligent and motivated you can discover a lot of things on your own by observation and reasoning. I’ve taught myself many things, both in science and technology related areas and in regard to spiritual enlightenment. My real world experience supports a lot of things taught in the Bible e.g. the self-destructive nature of evil.

        In my opinion, if the Bible – in some loose sense – can be called a science, then it is a science of manipulation of Joe Shmoes by those who – for some reason – think that they are better, smarter, or more deserving than Joe Shmoes.

        In that case it seems any further discussion would be pointless.

      11. @Harold Smith

        In that case it seems any further discussion would be pointless.

        Yes, this conversation has come to its logical conclusion.

    2. “Oligarchopoly” or the usual rule of colonial global dominance set up and strictly influenced by the always present culprits: the Vatican, the crown & the repre$entatives of coin and the replaceable henchman of demoncratic politics on detachable strings. It is a bulletproof design where true leader and statesmen vanish before they have a chance to rule their nation. The rest is “comedian entertainment” for the perverts who run and laugh about the show of foolish man and their actions/opposition since time began. Bark is quite right here: “The will of the Owners in the Vatican and the Managers at We$tminster” neither need a sciptbook, nor elections, peoples votes or sympathy.

  19. Supposedly lobro lost The Bet. I bet Russkie Circusssian wants lobro to pay off the debt lobro [ supposedly ] owes Russkie Circussian in rubles. NO yankee dollars please, WE’RE Russkies thank you very much spasibo bol’shoye.

    1. I love this rascal: he – notwithstanding he is no Jew – is in love with the currency of the Fatherland. A real American patriot!

      I am a lousy Russian patriot, so I will take American dollars 🙂

      Just kidding, Joe: The contract was in $$$.

  20. Thank God for the world’s leading Geo-Political expert Pat! I bet Pat is a Reincarnation of Klemens von Metternich! 😊

  21. See it live:

    @RudyGiuliani: Of the 600K votes added during curious “spikes” in PA, how many went to Biden?
    Witness: “I think our figures were about 570-some-odd-thousand.”
    “And how much for Trump?
    Witness: “I think it was a little over 3,200.”
    *crowd erupts in gasps, laughter*

    The Normal brain reels, the Trump Derangement Syndrome brain accepts, clatters on … well, brainlessly, absentee brains, absentee ballots, hanging chads between ears.

    What’s not to like for Jew as he gloats in the crowning glory of his destructive might?
    Even better, he got the allegedly Jew-wise antisemites to agree with him 100% [Go on stupid goyim; Hate Trump! YES Massa Jew, WE HATE TRUMP! YOWSA!], do his dirty work, because we all love Palestinians, feel sorry for them and what Bad Man Orange Zionist Puppet is doing to them so we must work together to take him down and replace him with Hillary Biden who will make it right, ***smirk, smirk***

    Just remember: The Protocols are antisemitic forgery, why is lobro always harping on them?
    X

    […] the recognition of our rule will start from the very moment when the people, torn by dissensions and smarting under the insolvency of rulers (which will have been pre-arranged by us), will yell out: “DEPOSE THEM, and give us one world-ruler, could UNIFY US AND DESTROY ALL CAUSES OF DISSENSION, namely, frontiers, nationalities, religions, state debts, etc. . . . a ruler who could give us peace and rest, which we cannot find under the government of our sovereigns and representatives.”

    But you know full well for yourselves that, in order that the multitude should yell for such a request, it is imperative in all countries to continually disturb the relationship which exists between people and governments–hostilities, wars, hatred, and even martyrdom, with hunger and need, and with the INOCULATION OF DISEASES, to such an extent, that the GENTILES SHOULD NOT SEE ANY EXIT FROM THEIR TROUBLES other than an appeal for the protection of our money and for our complete sovereignty.

    What arrant nonsense, a shopworn antisemitic canard … AND FORGERY.
    A future to be eagerly anticipated and savored.

    Hey Circassian, I do intend to honor my debt, how much do you want (subject to College of Electors headcount).
    I expect that you will go for the max—just remember that although the odds are hugely against me (greater than 20:1—whoops, whaddayaknow, improving after the PA hearing, only 10:1, rising trend just like before election😜, whichever figure you cite binds us bilaterally.

    Your buddy, lobro the underdog.

  22. Not to be off-topic I chose this thread as the appropriate one, who sees it, sees it (could be made into a cheap aphorism, no copyright attached).
    Particular readers appreciated: Harold and Circassian.
    Harold’s quote: “I could hardly understand what Alexander Mercouris was saying and Alex Christoforou is obviously biased; he apparently wears the same rose-colored glasses that you do.”
    (Mercuris is Limey, I thought so were you)
    Try this on for the size, 2 Bitchute videos, first very short but packs the truth punch:
    The Georgia pipe bust lie
    that proves just how bright Mercouris is in having spotted this keyhole that if fitted will burst the dam wide open, and here is the goods later on, watch what happens in the counting room on the night of the burst waterpipe and 6 million anti-Trump ballots pouring in (figuratively speaking but not short of truth)
    Georgia Smoking Gun. CCTV proves pipe burst was a lie (Live)
    Gloatworthy stuff indeed.
    (As always, my question: why are Jews so desperate to push out Trump, the most obsequious of Jew lickspittles in galaxy, past and future? Try as I might I cannot concoct any answer outside 11.4-dimensional kabuki that a few spacemen hiding here will jump to answer—note to MB: didn’t use any terms like “anti-Trump maggots swarming in a rotten skull“, disagreements can be expressed nicely and in good cheer)

    Circ: maybe my turn to play a proper gent re. $500.
    I will accept 500 rubles, no prob, payable in rates (or 500 baht will do, good for a decent local meal).
    Or dinner if you ever end up down in BKK (Bangkok).🤛

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